The Young Turks - Trump Blames Recent Tragedies For 'Momentum' Loss And His Cult Of Followers Will Believe ANYTHING

Episode Date: November 3, 2018

Trump said during a rally that the mail-bombings and the Pittsburgh shooting were to blame for his loss in midterm "momentum". A Guardian reporter went to a bunch of Trump rallies and spoke to his cult, and the findings were just as terrifying as you could imagine. Get exclusive access to our best content. http://tyt.com/GETACCESS Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's Friday. Oh, thank God, it's Friday. Yeah. Jake, John, and Brooke with you guys, great to have you guys here. Thank you. Speaking of John, he's going to do a whole, is it the whole hour? The whole hour. Whole hour of damage report tomorrow.

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So a lot of it will be public. A lot of it, of course, will be available to our members. And 2.2.com slash John. You're going to need that help because starting to pull away. I'm not saying anything. I'm just, no. Come on. We will reveal it later in the program.

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So you guys are amazing. I'll get you guys the name of the viewer because I want to give them credit. This is a wonderful, wonderful shirt. And you might think, well, the election's only in a couple of days. Like, I don't have that long to wear it. No, no, no, no, no. Hopefully, with a good result next Tuesday, you're gonna wanna wear that to remember when our country finally regained a shred of its day and the team.

That's right, it'll be a good day to remember, we hope, and also one coming up in two years. So lots of news to get to, like I said, some parts where I'm going to agree with Trump and the Republicans, it's gonna be fascinating. My favorite story, and every story is fantastic, but it's the one later in the first hour where a guardian reporter followed around Trump on his rallies and found out that he's about peace and love. And I actually agree, race for impact.

Oh my god, this is the show where Jank finally comes out in support of Trump. Okay, by the way, there goes all the TYT.com slash Jank sign up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stand against this, okay? TYotT.com slash John, that's where you stand against Donald Trump. By the way, also, here comes Hassan. Hassan's catching up, you'll see you a little bit later. Okay.

All right. Well, waiting until marijuana just eats everybody. Okay. Which is literally actually my fear when I'm too close to his cage. Yeah. No, the other day Mary had the cage open and I'm like, he could just jump out. That's crazy. Like somebody was in the studio, they're like, oh, is this a, you know, could he really?

I'm like, yeah, he could. So step away. Like, it's no joke. I have jumped or like yelped way too often in there. And then I look around, it's like when you fall but nobody saw, and then I make sure like, okay, nobody saw what just happened, like he'll jump up to climb or climb, and it's just too fast, too fast. Yeah, yeah. Our iguana ain't nothing to mess with.

Exactly. All right, John, go. Okay, let's talk a little bit. If you believe that Donald Trump has not been affected by the wave of political violence that came across our country over the past week and a half or so, you'd be wrong. He has been affected. He's just been affected in his own particular Trumpy, offensive way, as you'll see. I will tell you, we have gotten tremendous numbers, tremendous numbers of Republicans are going

out to vote. Now, we did have two maniacs stop a momentum that was incredible, because for seven days, nobody talked about the elections. It stopped a tremendous momentum. More importantly, we have to take care of our people, and we don't care about momentum when it comes to a disgrace like just happened to our country. But it did nevertheless stop a certain momentum, and Now the momentum is picking up. So one of the great things about Donald Trump not being on a teleprompter and also not thinking about the things he's going to say is that he will try to sometimes correct himself. So there he said, it's horrible that our momentum has been killed by these terror attacks.

Not that we care about momentum, all that we care about is our people, but also our momentum has been killed and that is a real shame. Yeah, the real shame, of course, is that 11 human beings were killed. Yes. But he can't stop thinking about himself, obsessed, doesn't care, brazen, not sophisticated enough to cover it up. I actually think John Febro had the best comment here on POTC of America where he said, imagine any other president, Republican or Democrat, using a national tragedy like that and saying

about how it reflects on their political standing and that's what they care about. Imagine if Bush was like, hey, 9-11 happened. On the other hand, man, my ratings are really great, I have great momentum, right? Or, you know, after Hurricane Katrina, George Bush saying like, oh, man, that really hurt our momentum, you know, we, yeah, a couple of, over a thousand people die, right? But anyway, it hurt me in the polls, it hurt me in the polls, and I didn't like that. Everyone would be rightly outraged, and you could pick a Democratic, like if Obama had said Benghazi hurt me in the polls, that's why I don't like it.

Boom, boom, every head would explode, right? And so we've just gotten to... Charleston church shooting is like, you know, that really hurts us. You know, we were trying to accomplish stuff, but now we're distracted. People are only talking about these horrific terror attacks. Right. He said that he focused on the fact that the media, it's unfortunate that the media was covering these terror attacks.

They should have been, they should have been talking about the election, okay? Instead, they were talking about the terror attacks, and that's really unfortunate. You know, can I say that? I don't think this was unplanned. I think this whole, like, oh, he's dumb and just so narcissistic. It was just off the cuff. Look what he did when it, no, I think this was plain. It's like political gaslighting like this.

He said something and he meant what he said and he meant to say that because that's what has been bothering him and he wanted to get that out to like-minded people. But of course, because evil CNN is there, he's got to clean it up a little bit. It was just like the, I'm a nationalist thing, you know, cleaned it up a little bit. I know you shouldn't say that, but like, no, this, he knew what he's doing. He went in there, this was the message, the whole point of being there. I don't believe it was an accident. So I agree and disagree.

So let me, I disagree and then I think that people who watch the show regularly know, I don't believe he has any strategy. I believe he is that maniacally stupid and narcissistic and he can't help himself. He just can't, he blurts it out, God damn it we had momentum and now we lost it because somebody get killed, who cares, right? Oh, they sent pipe bombs. I mean, they sent bombs to, what was it, 13 people. And he mentioned five of them in a recent rally as people that you should hate.

After the bombs, after the bombs. He didn't acknowledge that they'd been targeted by terrorists. He refused to ever say who had actually been targeted. He just went back to attacking five of them again. Right. Yeah. But the part that I agree with you, Brooke, is when he talks about how the momentum was stopped, He's basically saying, like, I was on a role demagoguing, right?

And I was getting up my base. I was using the fear, the caravans, the immigrants. And this kind of stopped my momentum of the stuff that you guys like, the talk about fear and hatred. Because then it was like annoying, like, this is the part he didn't mention, but I think that he's partly alluding to on purpose, like, then it's harder to say the immigrants are the problem when I said that, and the guy went and killed 11 Jewish Americans because he thought they were helping the immigrants.

And so that was annoying to me. So it turns out my fearmongering worked and he murdered those people and it made my fearmongering a little less convenient. I mean, I did it anyway, but it made it a little less convenient and it stopped my momentum. So I'm annoyed that he killed those people and it hurt my political chances a little bit. By the way, for the exact reason why I do it, I do it so you are scared and hateful and take action and he did, God damn it, you do it after the election, right? By the way, sorry, one more thing, John, about after the election, the terrorists in Kansas,

the right-wing extremists in Kansas were going to blow up a building with Somali refugees in it in the middle of Kansas, they said in 2016, they purposely waited until after the election to try to execute that plan because they didn't want to help Hillary Clinton, they wanted to make sure Donald Trump won. So like in the past, the right-wing terrorists have basically done what Donald Trump wants, which is like, hey, let's wait for the terror attacks after the election, because we don't want to stop his momentum. But this knucklehead in Pittsburgh didn't get that memo.

And so that's why Donald Trump is aggrieved. Yeah. Now, so I think that one of the things that our fans, the people who watch the show tend to care about is reality and whether things are true. But not everybody does actually believe that. And some people might see Donald Trump refusing to acknowledge the obvious connection between his rhetoric and some of these attacks, whether you think he wanted it to happen, or whether you can direct, you know, connect one specific statement to a specific attack.

We know that these are people that largely agree with him. One was a huge fan of his. And so how can he not acknowledge that at these rallies? Well, it turns out that like we predicted, his fans are not going to accept that there's any problem with political violence coming from the right. And thankfully, we have Rebel HQ's. Emma Vigland, who has been going to a number of these rallies talking with Trump fans there, and she has uncovered some amazing, I guess, mental gymnastics to avoid coming to grips with what's actually going on.

Here is the first video. There's been a string of right-wing terrorist attacks and kind of an influx in them- An influx in right-wing-terror texts, like where-one? Like the bomber, like the white supremacist shooting. The insane person. Right, but that- so 37 right-wing terrorist attacks in 2017, only seven Islamic terrorist attacks. 11 bright wing. That's from the global terrorism database. Nice try.

What do I think about it? False media. Fake news. That's what I think about it personally. No. You know, listen to the man. You know, they just blow it on if they take everything out of context or when they can. He used to be a Democrat, too. Nobody talks about that. He was just a crazy person. You can't blame a president for a crazy person. I'm just wondering if you think Trump's encouraging that kind of With the way.

He's trying to keep him out. He's trying to keep him out of here. And he's trying to get rid of him. And we're trying. I don't want to see it happen. But if we have to, we'll kill him. Okay. So we're not violent.

They have to kill them. The comprehension skills. It's frustrating. It's, I don't think. Yeah. No, no. They just live on a different planet. It's, that to me is the most frustrating and depressing part.

I mean, the more we send out to those routes, the more we see those, a huge percentage of those folks do not live on Earth. They live in an alternate reality, which, where the guy who said that I hate the immigrants so much and the Jews are paying for the immigrants, just like Donald Trump said, he's Soros, they asked him the other day. You think it's Soros funding the caravan? He said, yeah, probably, right? So the shooter said the same thing, not in Soros, but another Jewish group he thought was funding

the caravan, so he went and killed Jews. How is that not right wing? He is an avowed right winger. That guy happened to think that Donald Trump didn't hate Jews enough, right? He was to the right of Donald Trump, but he's nowhere near the left, nowhere near the middle, clearly. Now, you could say, now, a fair point would be, oh, come on, now that's not fair, because he doesn't represent all of us, none of us do bombings, and we're all good people, and I love my kids,

and we go play softball, and, you know, and look, I think that they enjoy the same kind of rhetoric, so I wouldn't agree with that point, but it would be a fair point, but to just deny reality and say, no, he wasn't right wing, the guy who sent the bombs. He's sent to the 13 top Democrats and liberals in the country. And he's an avowed Trump fan who has the CNN sucks and Donald Trump is great. Van and the stickers and showed up at the rallies, called himself an avid Trump fan. How is he not right wing? But they don't live on earth.

They live in a totally different reality where they're right about everything. And then everyone else that doesn't look like them is a mortal threat to them. Someone that I follow on Twitter said something, and I can't remember exactly who said it, But she said something I hadn't thought about before, just like how, well, these people must sleep at night. Like, how awesome it must be to just not care about anybody who doesn't look exactly like you. I mean, exactly. Like, you went to not have to think about and, like, internalize horrible things going on in this country to not, you know, actually get sad when you think about little kids being stripped away from their families or people leaving, like, war-torn cities and walking to other countries to just say, please, can I have your scraps? Can I just have your free air to not, to hear that, to not have to worry about being in your place of worship, your place of faith, and being murdered and never going home again, to have to feel about taking your kids to a synagogue.

And if you're being a bad parent, because you choose to do that. Like, just, they must sleep really well, because it's rough out there right now, you know, when you care. Yeah, they go there to be surrounded by people who are exactly like them. This is what they live in their lives, though. Think exactly like them. And the thing is, you might say, well, look, Emma talks to a lot of people. Why do you guys focus on the craziest people? And we're going to have some other crazies.

And the thing is, previously, we have put up videos of Trump fans at Israeli saying reasonable things. When she comes across them, people who seem to question things or, you know, they seem to get their information for multiple places, they sound reasonable, we go out of our way to magnify that part of his fan base. But we can't help it if we ask, do you accept the obvious facts that right-wing terrorists far, far, far outnumber, either liberal or Islamic. We'll just include all of those terrorists, they just don't accept it.

And it doesn't matter how obvious it is, if Donald Trump went up there one night and said, I want you to shoot Maxine Waters in the head and someone did it the next day, they'd say he's just a crazy, it doesn't matter how many maga hats he wears, it doesn't matter how strong the connection is, he can repeat the exact same conspiracy theories, that Magabomber can target his exact list of enemies, they will never accept that. Yep. And we do have more video if you'd like. Yes.

So one just quick thing here. I think that they sleep well and they don't. So they sleep well because they don't, it's not that they don't have empathy. I think Trump doesn't have empathy, but I think his followers do. But only for, as we've talked a lot of them in the past, their own community, people who they view to be one of them. And if by the way there's a black person in their community, they might actually view that black person as one of them.

But they have to be in the community, right? They have to be in the church, they have to be in the neighborhood, et cetera. And that's it, and anyone outside the gates, they have no empathy for at all. So they do sleep well in that sense. But they don't sleep well because they're in constant terror. Like the immigrants are coming, the Jews are coming, the Muslims are coming, the blacks are coming, the Latinos are coming, the gays are coming, oh my God, they're in the bathroom, the trans are in the bathroom, right?

Can I just say, because, you know, people aren't going to get like upset, but listen, a black person is never truly in that community, that what we just saw, that, oh no, no, no, no. You may think you are, but look at Kanye. It can be snatched right up under. There are people who the rug can never, it's like attached to their feet. You are not one of them and something is going to happen sooner than later because it happens to them all. This is not your community.

I mean like- No, no, you're totally right. It's not. Because I was going to say, well, if you're Ben Carson, a total, you know, sell-out Candace owns whatever, right? He'd better keep it on the up and up. Yeah, but by the way, Candace, go ahead and cry about that right now. But the reality is you're right, because if she missteps a little bit and says, oh, my God, like a cousin of mine got shot and he was unarmed, that was weird, why did they do that?

They're like, oh, she's out, okay, she's one of those no good blacks. Do you ever read her replies just for fun from people who support her? They talk to her like she is a dog, and I don't think she even knows it. Like it is just like, hey, you are less than me, but thank you so much for talking to your people. Maybe one day, you know, you guys can get out there and be. you know, good parts of the country and do for yourselves. I'm so happy that you're like, what?

This is not, this is not your friend. It's not your friend talks to you. That's right. Why don't we actually take our first break? We come back, we're going to have the Guardian reporter who's been following a bunch of these rallies with some truly insane quotes. All right. All right.

All right, back on a young Turks. Let's read some member comments. Cheryl makes a great point. She said about how I said, you know, after tragedies if the other presidents had politicizes it. And she pointed out, Trump did do that after 9-11 too. There's audio of him telling a radio show host that his building is now the tallest in New York City or the world.

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He went on. And now, of course, he wasn't a political figure at the time. But he's like, they're like, okay, what do you think about the 3,000 people dead and the worst tragedy ever, etc.? And he's like, well, now my building is the tallest. They used to be the second tallest. Now it's the tallest in New York. Oh, my God. Like, no empathy, none. The guy's a sociopath.

Okay. Robert F. Strickland writes in, MAGA equals cult. We're actually going to talk about that a little bit more in a second. That's 100% right. And Kinkajoo writes in, what I've learned from Emma's interviews is that Magas think anything that doesn't have their exact views is fake news. Yeah, also 100% right. I don't like it, it's fake.

It is so frustrating. Yeah. I mean, looking at it, it's there, actually saw somebody do it, but it's fake. Because I don't like it. Yeah. Yeah. If you missed it, please watch, if you're a member, go back and watch Wednesday's show, t.t.com slash jank to become a member.

Watch Wednesday's show about the Ted Cruz story, what Donald Trump did did to Ted Cruz to the National Inquirer. He did the definition of fake news. It was purposely fake stories that they invented about Ted Cruz to smear him. And they did it over and over again to Hillary Clinton and to Marco Rubio and to all the people that were against Donald Trump. And now to turn that around and pretend like that the real news is fake just because it's inconvenient.

No, they do. They live on a totally different plan. And it would drive me crazy when the mainstream media treats them as rational actors. Like, oh, we don't want to offend, we don't want to offend. I mean, either this or either that. Yeah. And one of the reasons that we're focusing on this story for the first half of the show isn't just because of the implications for political violence and encouraging more violence and things

like that. But whatever you think is the reason that these people follow Donald Trump initially, whether you think it's the racist stuff, the agam anxiety, or whatever, a key, I would say core component of his cult is the acceptance of whatever they want to believe as being true, a complete rejection of the real world, that even like George W. Bush's fans still wanted, I think, to live in the real world, a fact-based world. But not Donald Trump's fans. A significant portion of this country has been convinced that if you want to believe that something is true, just believe it. It's better than accepting inconvenient truths. And it doesn't matter what conspiracy theory,

how crazy it's being spread. People are finding it easier and easier to just hide in these protected idea bubbles, basically. And that is not just a thing of political violence. And it's not just a that will be gone when Trump is gone. We're going to be pushing, hopefully, under a progressive president for these massive programs that will benefit the country and its people. But we're going to be doing that to 30% of the country that will accept whatever Fox News says about it. And so we need to gird ourselves for a battle that is not going to end on Tuesday or in 2020.

Yeah, I have a battle plan for that, but that's up for another story. One other last thing here, the shirts that remember, remember the 6th of November, designed by Laura Zuckerman, who is a member of the Young Turks. Thank you, Laura. Laura, these are excellent designs. Bless your heart. It's amazing. I love it.

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So we've been sending Rebel HQ's Emma Viglund around to a number of Trump rallies around the country. Outlets do have embedded reporters as well, and The Guardian had one of their reporters going to a number of these rallies for week after week, and really getting to know individual people that go to these rallies, but also what Trump's message is that he returns to from time to time. So we're gonna talk about that, but I also wanna talk about one individual that the Guardian reporter had an extended conversation with that might be willing to go farther in his adulation of Donald Trump than anyone I've seen before.

So this is Steve Spath, who's 40 years old and runs a home exteriors company in West Bend. The Guardian Reporter asked him who he regards as his political enemies and whether hate is too strong word. Steve said, not at all. I have a deep and absolute disgust for these human beings. The Guardian Reporter asks which ones. He rattled off CNN, Soros, Clinton, Waters, Booker, Pocahontas, aka Elizabeth Warren, and others. Guardian Reporter, why do you hate them? They want to turn America into a socialistic country.

It's disgusting. First of all, I think that a number of those people, regardless of what you think about them, are not fans of socialism or even moving in that direction. But he has been trained to hate those people. The same people, by the way, that received bombs just a week ago. How ironic. But it goes farther than that. The Guardian reporter says, you must be joking.

And he says, do we actually lose part of it? Ah, damn, we lose part of the quote. All right, I'll get that quote for you in a second because I have a quote. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So- The best quote of the story, buddy. Okay, here it is.

Okay. So the Guardian reporter then asked Space about his sister, who is a liberal and votes for Democrats. He said to her, if there's a civil war in this country and you were on the wrong side, I would have no problem shooting you in the face. Okay, so then the reporter says, you must be joking, right? And he says, no, I am not. I love my sister, we get on great.

But she has to know how passionate I am about our president. So I'm gonna tell you a disturbing story of a guy I knew in college. He was a normal kid when he came in as a freshman, I was a junior, we were in the same hall, and he started pledging a frat. And he became more and more obsessed with a frat. And the frat does the same thing that cults do, and right, it doesn't mean if you're in a frat You're a bad guy. There's plenty of people who work here, we're in frats, et cetera.

But it is a similar ideology in a sense, but they don't get you to kill people most of the time. Anyway, but they do engender this like they strip you of your identity. By the way, the military, all the militaries do this as well. They strip you of your individualism and they say the reason you matter and what is most important is your new identity as a frat brother. The frat matters the most. So one day he came up to me and he said, you know, if my frat asked me to, I'd kill my mom.

And I was like, oh my God, Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you? And so the reason I tell you that story is it is not particular to just the Trump cult. This is a common phenomenon. You strip people of their identity, you tell them they have a new identity, and they must follow the leader, and whatever the leader says, you must do. And it is more important to your family, friends, or anything else. And so, but what Trump has created with these Mager guys is definitely a cult. Don't believe in reality, no matter how much Donald Trump says insane things that aren't

remotely true. They say it is, and anyone who says the truth is fake news. And then now he's like, he loves his sister and he would shoot her in the face if Trump told him to. It's actually worse than the original Trump comment. You remember Trump said, if I shot someone on Fifth Avenue, you know, that he could get away with it with his followers, no, he could get them to shoot their own family members on Fifth Avenue and still get away with it.

He told his sister he would kill her. Like this is not, and you're, like that is a see something, say something situation. He would have to be, he would have to go, okay? You have to leave the dorm, sir. Maybe the frat house has a room they can open up early for you. And that's why when you hear stories sometimes of people doing outrageous things in france, it's because of this phenomenon and also religious cults, et cetera, and the mega cult.

And so let's keep it real. The guy who sent all the bombs was in the mega cult. And he believed that, hey, I got to act. The dear leader wants me to act and the enemy is Soros and the guys he tells me about in every rally. Trump said it in all the rallies before the bombs were sent. And he sent it in all the rallies after the bombs were sent. In other words, congratulations, Caesar, nice job.

These are the people I wanted you to attack and they're not even your sister. How easy is that? Attack Soros. You all want to attack Soros. Emma Viglin, our reporter for Rebel HQ, just in an interview with a guy who's got Soros tattooed on his back, and he's like the puppet master of Obama Clinton and Ayatollah Khomeini. That's a weird connection. Because they're mental, they're mental, and by the way, mainstream media, they're

mental. Stop saying that they're rational, or that it's 50-50, or the Republican voters are great, and Hillary Clinton shouldn't have called them deplorable. Not all of them, but a significant percentage have low. lost their frickin' minds. Well, and in terms of violence, I'm sure that just as with your friend in the fret, we're talking about a very small percentage. But there are thousands of people in the crowd.

So you don't need 10%, or- Exactly, we don't need 1%, you don't need 0.1% to occasionally have a terror attack. Far less than that, which he has, can become a gigantic problem. I mean, that guy, the Guardian reporter didn't say if you had to shoot your sister, would you, and he thought about it and said yes, he offered it up as an example of his life. love, something that he had apparently already been thinking about. He told it to her. The quote was that I said, I told her.

And what we just saw, the two terror attacks that we just saw, the three really that we just saw, like if this poor sister was a journalist, God forbid, and she's on top of that being called the enemy of the people, would we go back to that and be like, I mean, at what point do you realize, no, this is level 10, this is bad, it's not just, oh, he said something wild, like, no, there's a fear that, like, he may actually do it. I feel like his sister's in danger. And it certainly doesn't. I mean, look, the people there are told lies constantly, and they don't know it.

They can't tell. But it doesn't hurt that they go into these things with very little information. This was crazy to me. In the profile by the Gardner Reporter, I thought that we had just moved past the QAnon thing. I thought that that was this crazy thing that died off. Maybe for the most part it has. But in the crowd at that rally was a woman named Shadow Lane, who had a queue drive. drawn on her cheek for Q&N, the far-rate conspiracy theory network, and she believes some

kind of crazy counterfactual things about the world. The reporter asked her what America would be like in 2050 if Hillary Clinton had beaten Trump, and she said it would be like Guatemala, a socialistic country. He, I think, being generous, says she's probably confusing it with Venezuela, since Guatemala is currently run by what, right-wing president, who, like that woman, isn't about Trump fan, but it doesn't matter. It's all mixed up in their minds, they can't tell if it's a right-wing or if it's a left-wing, winger. Well, if it's right winger, it's probably fake news. Probably secretly it's a left

winger, probably secretly a Muslim too in Guatemala. But it's this mix of conspiracy theories and ignorance and hatreds and anxiety that give birth to a movement that will accept literally anything at this point. They're not even complete sentences. The only complete sentence we've gotten out of this whole thing so far is that I would shoot my sister in the face. The rest of it's like, ask her to explain that cue. You know what I mean? Because I have good, I've solid like comprehension skills. And I still don't, I don't get it. There was one other comment by the There was a comment from a 66 year old retired teacher who said that the Democrats want the country to be poor, basically, because then they'll have power.

And specifically, they want to keep black people in poverty. And he said, as proof of that, the Democrat Bush said, if you keep the blacks on welfare, they'll always vote for you. And the reporter said, Bush was a Republican, and he said, oh, I don't remember. That was not long ago, he was president for eight years. He was a Republican. So I'm gonna turn around now- The guy's 66 and a teacher. Also, we know who benefits from welfare the most, but it's like, wait, that's not,

that's a long, okay, we've been trying to get that cross for a really long time. It's white people, it's white people benefit from welfare way more than black people. I'd ask you to look into facts, but you don't believe in facts for your Trump supporter, so it's irrelevant. Okay, so I'm gonna turn around and tell you the things he's doing right in these Raws, okay, and which is interesting. But one last thing about the lies. The lies are so prevalent, it's amazing.

So he said they've opened up at least eight new steel plants in the country. That's not true. There's been no new steel plants open. There have been two that have been expanded. So it's not really remotely true. And of course he keeps saying that the immigrant caravan is being, which is in reality a refugee caravan is being funded by the Democrats. It's a total lie, 100% lie.

Ted Cruz today, 100% lie says Beto O'Rourke is funding the caravan. Why not? Why not? Why not? We're making up stuff. will believe anything. I mean, how preposterous that Beto O'Rourke is funding the caravan. They're like, oh yeah, they'll believe it, they'll believe it.

You can say that Beto O'Rourke killed the Easter Bunny, and they'll believe it. They'll believe there is an Easter Bunny and that Beto O'Rourke killed him. So anyway, so what's the right thing he's doing here? Look, at these rallies, they say the three things, the reporter I think did a fantastic job. He points out things that are true, right? He doesn't let him get away with things that aren't true. But points out, wait, you're missing something. And what you're missing is love, these are at the rallies, love, peace and humor.

And you're thinking, really about Donald Trump? But it's actually, in a lot of ways, it is true. And let me explain. So he keeps saying, I love you guys, and they keep shouting back, I love you. And I get it. And that is an effective tool, and they do love him. And it's what Brooke referred to in an earlier story on today's show. It's a cocoon, and within the cocoon, they're so safe.

And they feel so good, and that's the peace part. They are so at peace. And the reporter, that's why I keep giving him credit. And Emma, who covers the rallies for us, has similar points. Within their cocoon, they're so happy and peaceful. There's no immigrant caravans going into a Trump rally. There are no, none of the minorities that they're worried about are a very small amount and they believe the same thing, so they're okay, they're the good ones, et cetera, right?

And Trump tells them all the things they want to hear. Everyone outside the cocoon's a bad guy, but don't worry, I'm going to protect you because I love you. And so they think like, oh my God, finally someone who gets it. And I'm going to be safe with Daddy Donald. I'm going to be safe. And that's why I love our leader because he keeps us safe from all the boogeymen out there. And remember, the conservative brain is slightly different than the progressive brain.

This is an actual scientific fact. Now, look, you don't want to over interpret it, but there are portions of their brain that are related to fear that are slightly larger than in other people's brains. So it is not an accident that conservatives all across the world and across history have been more reticent about change because they're afraid. They're afraid of change. They're afraid of the others. And so that is what Donald Trump takes advantage of.

But for those people, it is such a soothing message. And then like you and I look at him and you think that he's not funny, but to them he's a crack up. You're right. Because he's not telling jokes, but he goes like, Pocahontas, and we go, what a terrible thing you say about someone. Right? I mean, even though, so whether you think she's a Native American or you don't, or again,

they don't care about facts, like let's say that, I mean, either way, it's racist to call someone Pocahontas, I mean, it's crazy, right? We look at it that way, like, wouldn't that be offensive to Native Americans because we care about Native Americans, we don't want to offend them, right? But they look at it as like, yeah, that's so funny, I hate Native Americans too, yes, that's so funny, right? And I'm so safe. There's so much comfort in, like, expanding, like, it used to be, like, we always

say, like, racism and all of this nasty, this didn't, these people didn't just start feeling like this, like, you said something about, like, Bush supporters that, you know, they wanted to live in a, you know, in like a normal world, like a normal aspect of, like, reality, sure, but not, way far too many of them wanted to live here. But I think this has created this world where you can come outside. You can come outside your door. You don't have to just be nasty with your wife and your kids. Like, you can say it outside.

Out loud, you can go on TV and say, you can say it on a microphone. Your president says it. It's amazing. And I think, oh, sorry. No, you're fine. Okay, I think I 100% agree. I think tied in with it is you get to vacillate between these periods of what you're saying, is this warmth and comfort, everyone around me is like me.

I don't have to worry right now, but also, and this is just a human thing, it explains why mob violence exists. There's a certain percentage of people, and I think that they have self-selected into the Trump cult, that just want to release this darkness inside of them. And they want a person to give them that right. So they bow down to the authoritarian leader Donald Trump, but the authoritarian leader then in turn allows them to lash out. So when he says those media people, and everybody lets loose with their rage, targeted against

the media that's assembled there, when he says exclusively generally about black politicians and especially black female politicians that they're low IQ or they're criminals or whatever. Lock them up, lock them up because these people desperately want to see people like that locked up. And they want a powerful figure to tell them all those feelings you have are perfectly acceptable. You're surrounded by everyone who will agree with you. Now just let it out right now. Do this two minute hate and you will feel so much better afterward.

It's almost therapy. And finally, the reporter said the most common sentence spoken there, and it's actually on the t-shirts as well. And by the way, his name is Ed Pilkington. I want to give him credit for a wonderful story. The sentence was Trump, he says what I think. And that's it. That's it right there.

So when the CNN's the world actually cover for Trump supporters, I know they never believe that, but they do. They cover up for them. And they pretend that Trump is the only guy who thinks these things. And Trump is a wacko by himself, but he doesn't represent the Republican Party or their voters. It's not remotely true. They had 17 people who choose from. They chose Donald Trump.

They did it on purpose because he says what they think. And what they think is, man, remember when America was great when we dominated? And we didn't have to worry about anybody else. We didn't have to worry about equal rights. We didn't have to worry about any of that. I mean, in the 1950s and 60s, America wasn't great for a lot of people. And they hate to hear that. They're like, but it was great for us.

Fake news. We ruled. We ruled. So now when he attacks all those other people, you think that that's the problem, they think it's the solution. He says what I think. That's what the t-shirt say. And so that's the Trump cult.

And that's why they love him. Because he's finally someone just as racist as they are. Yeah. Why don't we take a break when we come back? some action on Iran coming from the Trump administration. Yeah, and there is a twist in that one, too, where I'm going to agree with him on a couple of things. Fascinating twists. You won't go out by this.

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The groups they hate have real fears. Oh, super fast on that. Just to be clear, like, if you don't go to political rallies, you might think, it's probably what they all are like. But it doesn't have to be this way. I've been to a ton of Bernie Sanders rallies. They're nothing like that. They are very exciting and they are filled with people that really like Bernie Sanders, but

there's nothing like so many different components of the way Trump rallies play out. Yeah. And so are they going to be shot by cops if they're unarmed? Very unlikely. Are they gonna have to run for their lives like the refugees are? Very unlikely. You're absolutely right. All their fears are imagined.

One of them thought that man, if the Democrats win there's gonna be race wars, the Mexicans, and the blacks and the whites, and the Asians are all going to be fighting, et cetera. Like, my God, if you let the minorities run things, right? But California is a minority majority, and it's one of the most liberal states, and it's the richest state in the union, and it's perfectly lovely. So, but again, that's a fact, and they don't care about facts. Like, it is lovely here. Yes.

People don't understand that. You know what I'm from Oklahoma. I believe. It, that is such a good, it is lovely here. Yeah. You know what I mean? When the feds mess up, the state of California says, oh, no, not here. You know what I mean?

Like so often, it is just lovely here. And look, I know that they don't care about diversity. In fact, they're afraid of diversity. But I look at those all white crowds and not because they're white, but all anything. And it's not the world I want to live in, partly because that's not the world I grew up in in LA. We weren't trick-or-treating the other day, every race. And to me, it's awesome, it's lovely, it's wonderful, people from all across the world

intermixing and having a great time and trick-or-treating and treating each other with decency, right? And they look at that and they're afraid, that's amazing. Well, it was technically Halloween, so it makes sense. It's supposed to be spooky right. They're just bad that like some of those poor little kids couldn't paint their faces black. Yeah. There's so much to be mad about. Yeah, that's the one thing they're mad about.

Anyway, Kim writes in the member section, they haven't blamed TYT yet for the caravan. We need to have a bigger voice. Well, if we keep running that out against Ted Cruz, hold. You know, if we want to get their attention, we should raise some money to donate to the caravan. To buy some food and clothes for them. Their kids, their moms and kids, they could use it. No, but seriously though, this is how sick the world has become. So that's a funny and fun idea and a good one actually.

It's like a humanitarian thing to do, et cetera. But if we did that, there's a decent chance that they would send a bomb here. Yeah. Isn't that amazing and horrifying? That's true. That they would try to murder us for trying to help refugees running for their lives. So that's the sick world we live in now. So I'm not gonna do it by the way now.

Yeah. But they may scare all decent people from helping other human beings. That's how fascism works. Okay, last one. Dr. K.S.M.D. says, I love it when the right wingers, they cry all socialism without the slightest sense of irony as they drive over public roads every day, praise the police and military nonstop, utilize their Medicare or Social Security, and any other number of things they enjoy that was brought to them by the wonders of socialism.

Also 100% right, also would make their heads explode. If you told them Social Security and Medicare are a socialist and the cops of the military are, they'd be like, what a ridiculous thing, as if the military is run by the government. Emma, in the video we didn't get to play, Emma talked to a guy who seemed he was talking to her for a while. And he said, white supremacists can't be right wing because they want big government. So they are left wing. That's white supremacy. Like none of the sentences make sense.

I know, but they literally call the Nazis now left wing. Okay, I mean, whatever, okay, live in that reality, it's a scary, terrible place. They're free thinkers, you know, live it up. Yeah, all right, so I told you we'd reveal it in this segment, so we will. Finally, the leaderboard for joining up to become a member. Okay. All right, well, look, Anna's still winning. Damn, she's winning by a lot.

A lot. Yes, and from a distance in Hawaii, she's still kicking our ass. Jesus. Okay. She not only has the most number of people that sign up for $4.99, she also has the most number of people that signed up at $10 as an activist level. And I pulled away from John a little bit. He'd gotten as close as one or two to me.

Hassan's moving up. Poor Francis, we forgot to tell him about the program. Hassan's numbers are shocking. Hassan has a fan base out of this world. Yeah. And Hassan and Francis do a wonderful, wonderful job at Breakdown. They have millions upon millions of views. and fans, et cetera, but they're largely not on this show, and still, and Hassan got told

it a little while ago, Francis hasn't been told them, they're still on the board. So that makes sense then. Yeah. Can they promote it in the breakdown videos? Are they allowed to do that? Yeah, they're allowed to do whatever they want. Okay, there they go. Okay.

Next week, they're on one and two and we're at the bottom. Right. And they're going to become a member. You can do it through t.yt.com slash join, or you could do it. use one of our names like that and have some fun, okay? Can I give you an idea? I think we should have one, it's not a host, it's not an iguana either. We should have one that's t-y-t.com slash lib-tears, and that is for right-wingers who hate

watch our show to show how powerful they are as a voting block. They sign up at t-y-t.com slash lib-teers, become members and hate us, you know, in an active fashion. Okay, that's a good idea, but it doesn't exist yet. Whatever. Whatever. You're with the ideas today, you're just making it work. Don't bomb me, please.

Okay, so, and by the way, when we were trick-and-treating, I said this in a postgame. Someone who was like, oh, man, I know you do such a great show. But mainly I love Hassan. I'm not surprised. That guy signed up to aene. People are just typing it, and they're just hoping that it's there. That's right. All right, what's next?

Okay, serious stuff. Donald Trump previously pulled out of the nuclear cord with Iran, and now he has announced that he will in fact be reinstating all of the sanctions that had been removed as part of that deal by the previous Barack Obama administration. Now, he chose to announce this massive change to American Ford policy in an incredibly mature and professional fashion with this tweet, sanctions are coming. That is the actual real Donald Trump Twitter account aping a popular HBO show in announcing this gigantic change that could likely lead to Iran developing nuclear weapons.

So that's awesome for him to do. Now, to be fair, they did also tweet out from the White House account. President Real Donald Trump is reimposing all sanctions lifted under the unacceptable Iran deal. The U.S. is reimposing the toughest sanctions ever on Iran, targeting many of the corrupt regime's critical sectors. So first, the substance of the sanctions, and then I do want to return to the Game of Thrones thing. Because some of the actors in HBO reacted to it. So now, here comes the biggest twist, which is befitting of a Game of Thrones story.

I think that it was smart in two different ways, okay? Really smart, which is the thing that I don't often say about Donald Trump. And then, of course, wrong in one very significant way. So number one, he knows that HBO is going to object. He knows that people are going to be outraged. That draws more attention to it. And he wants attention to it. And so why does he want attention to it?

Because he wants to rile up his base. Remember, guys, the caravan's coming. We hate Latinos. And remember, I'm going to take action against the trans community. Not even going to do it, but remember, hate the trans vote for me, rile up his base. And oh, we forgot the Muslims, okay, right. Muslim hatred is coming, I mean sanctions are coming. Iran, boo, I hate Iran, we hate Iran, Iran is Muslim, yeah, a base, yes, oh right, I'm so scared

of the Muslims and the Latinas, good point, I'm gonna go vote, okay? So, I think that it was a smart strategy to use Game of Thrones, knowing that he would be attacked for it. Number two, Game of Thrones is fun, okay, and we use it all the time. If I was advising President Sanders, I would tell him, use Game of Thrones, okay? So I actually have no problem with it at all. So, like, when he goes and says, I like people who assault the media, that's deeply problematic.

When he uses pop culture, I don't have any problem with it at all. Number two is, look at what he's doing. He, at least the Republicans, and in this case, Donald Trump, understands that the most important thing before an election is not to try to convince the other side that you're actually right. Who the hell is Donald Trump going to convince among Democrats and independents who are turned on him and don't like him that they should actually vote for him? That's a dumb idea.

So he knows, no, all I've got to do is get my guys to show up. Because in this country, we have really low voter turnout. So what decides elections is not who's winning the ideological battle across the country. It's whose side is more fervent and shows up to vote, whereas the Democrats, in their infinite stupidity, do the opposite. So Joe Donnellys of the world are running all these Senate campaigns going, I hate progressives. Man, I'm conservative, just like the Republicans. What does that do?

We've had endless comments here asking me on Twitter, on our YouTube section, and etc. Should I bother voting for Joe Donnelly? And then people on Twitter then blame me, it's your fault. I didn't run the goddamn ad, and I'm telling you, you should vote for Joe Donnelly. He is better than a Republican, and then he should primary is asked the next time and get a real progressive. But in a general election, he is way better than a Republican, but it's not me, he's running.

And what he's doing is spitting in progressive faces all across Indiana, and then expecting them to show up. He's supposed to win that election. The polls have had him up for a long time. He's the incumbent, he has so many advantages. And he stands an excellent chance of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Because he tells all his voters, I hate you, don't show up for me, okay? So- By the way, and the Republicans are right on this issue and this issue and this issue.

That's right. Is Reagan was awesome, Republicans are great. For some reason, vote for me. This is whack, though. I'm sorry. I don't want the president of the United States sitting in the White House making life. on, like, imposing sanctions on a... I just think this is whack.

And I'm not super anti, probably more than anybody else, like respectability politics. But this is whack. Like, we don't take anything seriously at all. We don't even have to get in whether you agree with what he's talking about. And that's a whole other conversation. But this is whack. He's the president. Also, just want to say, we don't, like, spend enough time, like, appreciating the

graphics environment. Like, I mean... This taught me in my tracks for a second. So I would like to double down in it being. whack, it's whack, it's also, can you, we should just have this on tape, can you imagine if Barack Obama had announced a massive change door of foreign policy to take place the day before an election? Right.

Can you imagine that? And can you imagine if he did that a couple days after he deployed thousands of troops completely unnecessarily thousands of miles away from a refugee caravan to scare Americans into voting? Can you imagine if he did both of those things? But he's doing both of those things because we've given the government over to a petul. child who also happens to be a proto-fascist. This is what we get the day before our elections. In terms of the actual use of it, I think that it is both smart. I gave him credit on the damage report on that. But it's also, it's trolling. I mean, let's keep it real. But I love Game

of Thrones, so I'm going to stand up for Game of Thrones. HBO responded saying, we were not aware of this messaging. It would prefer our trademark not be misappropriated for political purposes, going on to then say, how do you say trademark misuse in Dothraki, which I like. But I also want to give credit to you some of the people, because as soon as I saw this, I thought about tweeting, I would love for the actors to speak out against this, because here is a thing I come back to you from time to time. When you were a right winger, when you're Donald Trump, or when you're Ted Cruz talking about the Simpsons, or when you're Ben Shapiro talking about virtually anything, you spend

99% of your time demonizing left-wing thinkers, creative people, sensitive people, artists effectively, you want to defund the arts. And then you also want to be one of the cool kids who can associate with these things and make fun references to them. Well, nine times out of ten, those people are not on your side because they don't stand for any of the values that you continually attack. And in this case, even with the kids, that's the case. And so, Maisie Williams, who plays Aria Stark, tweeted out, Not Today.

We bring that up. She's awesome. The toughest character on the whole show. The toughest character, not today. I would have preferred her to say, The North Remembers. I like Not Today. Okay, Sophie Turner just tweeted, ew, she plays Sonsa Stark. That's very Sonset.

And then I wondered if he would say this because George R. Martin, the genius who came up with Game of Thrones is in no way a Republican, he tweeted out, hashtag vote, fear cuts deeper than swords, vote Tuesday the 6th. And he's actually allowed to use it so it works. Yeah, that's his thing. He came up with all this. This is his IP, I guess. Yeah, I also wish they would have said, oh, Red Wave, come and see.

Okay, last thing, I don't want anybody get it twisted. The part that I was going to come back to it being wrong, other than the policy being terribly wrong, Brooks Wright, that's a whole other show. But the fact that he is using policy for politics was previously at least considered unacceptable. Like, it's not that other politicians didn't do it, but they at least were subtle enough that they would do it well before an election, they would bother to hide it, et cetera. Whereas Trump is basically saying, I don't care about policy at all. I'm gonna do it right before the election to try to get people to vote, because all I care

about is politics and power, whether we actually do the discrimination against trans people, which he said very recently, or we do anything with the caravan, or we shoot them, as he implied, or we lift the sanctions or double the sanctions on Iran. Who cares? I don't actually care about it. All I care about is winning. So I'm gonna use that policy and which affects, to Brooks point again, millions of people, not only in Iran, but here, what if it starts a war?

He said, I don't care if it starts a war basically. By saying, I'm gonna use it for politics and all, because this isn't a game, guys. Game of Thrones is a show, it's a show, right? But politics, a lot of people, and especially Trump supporters, view it as a game. It's not a game. If you start sanctions on Iran, they might counter. If they counter, we counter. And that could lead to war, which the New York conservatives.

inside Trump's cabinet won. If you have war, thousands of U.S. soldiers will die, let alone the Iranians and everyone else in the region. And Trump says, yeah, but I'll win politically, who cares? That's sick. It is, yeah. And just going back to the part that you thought was like smart, that this gets, it gets the message out there, it's like, that's why you're doing this?

Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's why you're imposing sanctions like this on this country, you know, because Because you want people to be mad with you. It's just, this is so awful. The best thing to come of this was one of the first replies to that, which was a Trump never pays his debts, which I liked. By the way, you remember when Hillary compared herself to Game of Thrones character? It was to Circey Lannister.

No, she didn't. Yes, she did. Not the way that you think. But still, not smart. At all, yeah. Yeah, in her book, to Brooks Point, she said the Republic crowds that Trump riled up. I felt like they were yelling, shame, shame, and yelling and throwing things at me. That's true, but I wouldn't compare yourself to the most evil

character on the show. She didn't get half of what she deserved. What? Like, you know what I mean? People were too hard on Circe. Anyway. All right. Okay. That's not the same. All right. We're out of time. We got a whole other hour for coming up for you guys. And it also has amazing stories in it and including Oprah campaigning for Stacey Abrams. So apparently when we return conservative heads explode. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work, listen ad-free, access members only bonus content and more by subscribing to Apple podcast at apple.com slash t-y-t. I'm your host, Shank Huger, and I'll see you soon.