The Young Turks - Trump Crashes Out - July 14, 2025

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month Shopify trial and start selling today at ⁠shopify.com/tyt Tucker Carlson claims Jeffrey Epstein was working for Israel to blackmail U.S. politicians, setting... off a firestorm. Trump, trying to contain the damage, urges MAGA to stop talking about the Epstein files—only to be met with furious backlash from his own influencers. HOST: Sharon Reed & Cenk Uygur SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞  https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK  ☞   https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER  ☞       https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM  ☞  https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK  ☞          https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH  ☞      https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. I don't play with lions. I don't play with those. I don't even do roller coasters. Well, hello. All right, well, the young church,
Starting point is 00:00:32 Shankyugar, Sharon Reid, with you guys, on rebel HQ, of course. All right, guys, amazing show ahead for you guys. So the explosions from the Epstein file controversy continue. Donald Trump with a remarkable, as in remarkably bad idea, a post on true social trying to defend himself. That made it much, much worse. Now they're doubling down on it. And his lawyer is saying, no, it's okay. I was Epstein's lawyer. And trust me, they're both innocent. Sure, sure. We'll get to that a little. bit later. Now the word Massad is being mentioned by many people and of course people are flipping out over that. The fact that they're flipping out more about that I think is interesting
Starting point is 00:01:40 and telling. We'll get to that in a little bit. And people we normally disagree with, but these days we have found some anti-war, anti-Israeli war crimes agreement with. Well, good news. The things we agree on, is very popular in the country, right? We're all on the winning side of that in terms of the American population, right? Definitely not the American politicians. We're on the losing end of that, both sides, right? But on the things we disagree on, also good news. Because on the things we disagree on, the American people agree with us and not them,
Starting point is 00:02:15 and very clearly so. So I'll give you those results a little bit later in the show too. So in the midst of dark times, there's a lot of really solid news about where the American people stand. And that seems to be squarely where we are. So that's great news. So Sharon, let's get to it. That was like the greatest half-time speech ever. You really got me all. It was so great. I have hope. I see rainbows and unicorns. Okay, we'll begin with this one, Jen Tucker's speech.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And I think the real answer is Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of Intel Services, probably not American. And we have every right to ask on whose behalf was he working. It's extremely obvious to anyone who watches that this guy had direct connections to a foreign government. Now, no one's allowed to say that that foreign government is Israel because we have been somehow cowed into thinking that that's naughty. Okay, Jenks right, it's not going away. Tucker Carlson there, strong words for anyone trying to shame Americans who are curious about potential ties between Jeffrey Epstein and intelligence. agencies like the CIA or Mossad. At this weekend's Turning Point USA summit, Tucker implored the audience to not buy into the argument that acknowledging suspicious links between Epstein and Israel is anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 00:03:43 It's not that way, he says. It's not conspiratorial either. Listen to this. There is nothing wrong with saying that. There is nothing hateful about saying that. There's nothing anti-Semitic about saying. there's nothing even anti-Israel about saying that. Criticizing the behavior of a government agency does not make you a hater, it makes you a free
Starting point is 00:04:04 person. You have a right to demand that foreign governments not be allowed to act against your interest. That's not creepy. It shouldn't be forbidden. And yet all of us have trained ourselves to believe that you can't say that somehow. That's like too naughty and forbidden. And the effect of making that off limits has been to create a lot of resentment. And I'll say it, hate online. Where people feel like they can't just say like, what the hell is this? You have the former Israeli prime minister living in your house. You have out all this contact with the foreign government. Were you working on behalf of Mossad? Were you running a blackmail operation on behalf of foreign government? By the way, every single person in Washington, D.C. thinks
Starting point is 00:04:51 that. I've never met anyone who doesn't think that. I don't know any of them that hate Israel, but no one feels they can say that. Why? Yeah, Tucker's not going to be able to say that without reaction. We'll get to that in a little bit, the former Prime Minister of Israel. Naftali Bennett responded to Tucker and questions, Tucker's questions. But before we get to that, Jenk, what do you make of Tucker Carlson's no-holds barred a turning point USA speech? He really just decided to lay it all out there. Yeah, so that portion of the speech, I totally agree with. And so if people are discomforted by that, that's kind of their problem, not my problem.
Starting point is 00:05:32 So the great majority of American people agree. So let's break it down, but I want to be clear about it. So there's a couple parts that are totally indisputable. You can dispute them if you like, but it just shows you're detached from reality. So can we criticize the American government without being anti-American? Well, of course we can. We could love America. I love America.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I think Tuck Croson in his own way loves America. And we both criticize the government all the time, the American government. And the Iraq war was a disaster. I mean, everyone, almost everyone on the Democratic side and the Republican side has criticized the American government at some point, and pretty harshly, right? And no has ever been called, I mean, sometimes the right way used to call the left on American for that stuff, but that garbage has ended, right? Like, so now even the right wing hates the Iraqi war, et cetera, right?
Starting point is 00:06:23 So now, and what about an ethnic government? Well, I mean, of course everybody would say you can't criticize the Saudi government because it's a Muslim state, that argument would be the most ridiculous argument anybody's ever heard or you'd get laughed out of the room, right? If you said, oh, you can't criticize the Turkish government because that would be an racist anti-Turkish position, you get laughed out of the room and you should, right? But when they say, oh, you can't criticize the Israeli government or wonder if they are doing this kind of operation, then you hate Jews. No, that doesn't make any sense at all.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And by the way, you're implicating all Jews in Mossad's actions. That's ludicrous. So Mossad is not calling random Jewish Americans or Jewish Norwegians or Jewish Israelis and goes, oh, by the way, here's a secret agent plot. No. Does the CIA call random Americans be like, oh, hey, Bob, here's what we're going to do next, right? No, they're responsible for their own actions, and not all Jews are. And if you say that all Jews are responsible for what Mossad might have done, you're a weirdo anti-Semite.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Not us, you are. And Israeli supporters are so weirdly defensive about this. They're like, you know Mossad didn't do it. How do you know Mossad didn't do it? If you ask me, hey, did the Turkish version of the CIA do something or not? I'd say, how the hell would I know? They didn't call me, they didn't call my uncle, how would I know? But they're like, no, Israel would never do that.
Starting point is 00:07:48 No, you're a lunatic. The intelligence agencies of all of our governments do terrible things. And to say that you know that Israel is the one moral intelligence agency that would never do it. Come on. Come on. It's absurd. In fact, you're almost telling on yourself, if you say, I know definitively it's not Mossad. Why are you an Israeli agent? I don't know how else you would know that, right?
Starting point is 00:08:12 So, oh, no, it's illegitimate to ask the question. So it's legitimate to ask if he was connected to Norway, Bolivia, Kazakhstan, like any other country. But if you ask it of Israel, somehow that magically becomes illegitimate. And even when there is massive ties, and we'll talk about the ties in a minute to Israel. He doesn't, Epstein did not have a lot of ties to the Norwegian government or the Peruvian government. Get a lot of ties to Israel and so did Ghislaine Maxwell, massive ties. But even though those ties are clear and we could talk about that, and we're not saying Mossad definitely did it.
Starting point is 00:08:48 We're wondering, hey, well, that's a lot of ties to Mossad and Israel. They say, oh, you're not allowed to ask. But why am I allowed to ask? That's ludicrous. Okay, so now I have more questions because I'm starting to wonder, Sharon, And wait a minute, they seem, and when I say they, I mean the people that are in power in Washington, like Democratic politicians, Republican politicians, mainstream media, they all seem way more bothered by this theory than the theory that American presidents like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump were involved. They're like, oh, yeah, that's bad, but that's okay, we can live with that one, though. It might have been CIA or myself, how dare you, you anti-Semite?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Huh, okay, and you want to know why they're more touchy? Because it's one thing if the US government or any government covers up the crime of child rape and hundreds of cases of it, it's another if they were part of it. If they set up young, underage American girls to get raped by the rich and powerful so they could have blackmail or whatever other thing that they need for their intelligence agency, Is CIA, Mossad, MI6, whoever it might be, any intelligence agency that is connected to that, did not mind raping hundreds of underaged American girls for their purposes. That is why it's thermonuclear.
Starting point is 00:10:16 That is why, even though the whole country realizes that there were hundreds of Epstein clients, none of have been prosecuted, and the government of, and yes, be honest, under both a Democratic president and a Republican president, in fact, multiple Democratic and multiple Republican presidents, the U.S. government is like, we are never going to tell you that. We're not going to prosecute a single person ever, ever, ever, because this is thermonuclear. Okay, okay, you're confessing, you're confessing. So a lot more where that came from. Back to you, Sharon. Yeah, you mentioned somebody who would be in the know, would perhaps be the only one who could tell us and maybe this is that person in response to questions about
Starting point is 00:11:04 whether Epstein colluded with Israel's intelligence agency, Mossad. Now Tali Bennett wrote this on X will show it to you as a former Israeli prime minister with the Mossad having reported directly to me. I say to you with 100% certainty, the accusation that Jeffrey Epstein somehow worked for Israel or the Mossad running a blackmail ring is categorically and totally. Alts. Epstein's conduct, both the criminal, you okay, Jenk, and the merely despicable had nothing whatsoever to do with the Mossad or the state of Israel. EFSI never work for the Massad.
Starting point is 00:11:45 This accusation is a lie being peddled by prominent online personalities such as Tucker Carlson, pretending they know things they don't. They just make things up, say with confidence, and these lies stick because it's in. Israel. There's a vicious wave of slander and lies against my country and my people. We just won't take it anymore. Well, Tucker clapped back when that went up. He's still going full steam ahead. You just won't take it anymore. Instead of issuing threats on social media, why don't you sit down for a rational interview on Jeffrey Epstein's ties to the Israeli government? Well, reach out to your office this morning. No word yet.
Starting point is 00:12:29 on whether Bennett has taken Tucker up on that offer. Meanwhile, some of the biggest defenders of Israel and Congress are upset that the obscene story just will not go away. Republican Congressman Mike Loller annoyed that CNN's John Berman even asked him about the country's biggest news story. Let's take a look at that. Frankly, this seems like a colossal waste of time and effort and frankly, a lot of nonsense. There are a lot of issues facing this country right now.
Starting point is 00:13:01 A dead pedophile ain't one of them. Explain to me what you think the nonsense is here. Well, frankly, the fact that you're even covering this. I mean, I don't even understand, frankly, why we're spending a lot of time on Jeffrey Epstein. You know, the fact is he was a pedophile who was arrested. He committed suicide. Just so you know, it's being covered because the deputy director of the FBI is said to have taken off work on Friday to protest the Justice Department own handling of this. Oh, yeah, there's that. How about a Democrat for you? Richie Torres arguing that this whole thing is just one big distraction.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Can we be clear that the Epstein controversy is a distraction of Donald Trump's own making, that he was fanning the flames of the Epstein conspiracy theory during the campaign? And so now he's an, you know, he's essentially an arsonist pretending to be a firefighter. And there was no need for an investigation. The medical examiner had investigated the matter and found that Epstein died by suicide. The same conclusions were drawn by the Bureau of Federal Prisons. There was no need for a new investigation unless the purpose was to legitimize a conspiracy theory. Or, Jenk, to find out more about Epstein's crimes, ties, and potential blackmail. I mean, it's not just about whether he committed suicide or somebody offed him, perhaps in that one minute disappearance of the prison tapes that have been released. What say you about both, I mean, you got both sides of the
Starting point is 00:14:38 aisle, others and Tucker Cross and beating them all back saying, no, something stinks here. Yeah, okay, so I'm now amused by these reactions. So huh, what connects Republican Representative Lawler with Democratic Representative Richie Torres? Oh right, they're both enormous supporters of Israel. In fact, two of the biggest supporters of Israel in Congress. And look at that, it's bipartisan. And I was amused by how many times Lawler said, frankly, I mean, frankly, frankly,
Starting point is 00:15:29 I mean, this is ridiculous, please get it out of the news, please get it out of the news, frankly, frankly, there's nothing you see here, the girls raped themselves, obviously. It was on tape, but it was just, it was just child porn of them getting raped by no one. Of course. Like you could almost sense the panic in his voice, right? And Torres says, this is a distraction, brother, you're in the Democratic Party. MAGA is talking about how Trump himself might be on the Epstein list. And you think that is not something the Democrats should talk about.
Starting point is 00:16:05 You think the Democrats should let Trump off the hook on that because, come on guys, come on, come on. I mean, it's a fairy tale in Washington. This is, look, my whole life I grew up on mainstream media and believing that these politicians were real and that they were having debates. Like I was such a naive little kid. I used to watch McLaughlin report and meet the press and all those things. Starting at like the age of, I don't forget if it was 10 or 12.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Like it was really young, I'd watch Super Friends wrestling and this week with David Brinkley. Okay, and so, and I thought it was real. I thought it was real. I'm sure a lot of you today still think it's real, right? No, it's all theater. Look at the Democrats and the Republicans. The minute that that topic is touched, you gotta move off of it, you gotta move off of it. And look, I'll give Ari Berman credit, nice job bringing that up and asking,
Starting point is 00:16:54 legitimate questions on CNN. I'm going to get to Megan Kelly in a second. I'm going to get to the evidence on connections to Israel in a second. But look guys, they keep using anti-semitism, of course, as always, like one trick pony, right? Anything about Israel, you're like, Israel, anti-Semite. You're like, wait, I didn't even finish the sentence, right? So, so, but in this case, when they use it as a weapon, you're not allowed to ask questions about only one government and only one intelligence agency. You can ask all the questions you want about America and the CIA and every other country, but you're not allowed to ask about Israel, ever, about anything. You're not allowed to criticize them, you're not allowed to ask, you're not allowed to say it.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Okay, because why? Anti-Semitism. All right, well, guys, now you're using it as a weapon to protect your country, and you're driving up anti-Semitism. There's another part of the speech that Tucker was right about. Look, for a while in my lifetime, this was so effectively buried that the government was right. Oh, I think we can trick Democrats or Republicans. We just have mainstream media. We just got to get those buffoons to play along.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And then all of the, and nobody will be the wiser, right? And that worked for decades. But now mainstream media is falling apart. There's all sorts of other media. We're all talking about it. So now when they try to bury and they're like, you better not see anything. Bigot, big, big, racist, Angie Semite, et cetera, et cetera. It's getting a thousand times worse.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Because it's building and building and building online. And the more the government says, you're not allowed to criticize Israel, the more the American people start to get enraged. And the more you connect and the various actions of any government with a religion, you're going to drive up hatred towards that religion. It's a profoundly bad idea done enormously selfishly by the current government of Israel. So guys, give you an example. I use my own epic background all the time just to give you a sense of what
Starting point is 00:18:46 something, someone who's unbiased looks like. So I remember when the Turkish government was accused of a false flag operation, in Syria, right? And this is a bunch of years ago, we covered on the young Turks. And the Turkish government said, how dare you? This is outrageous conspiracy theories
Starting point is 00:18:59 about false flights. And then the foreign minister was caught on tape. And we played the table. It was hilarious. He's like, we should attack our own place so that we have a reason to go into northern Syria with the Turkish army. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Now, if you yelled anti-Turkish when that was revealed, laughed out of the building, right? As you should be. But when it was, Israel gets caught doing anything. They're like, we represent all Jews. And all Jews did this.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And if you criticize Israel at all, you're criticizing all just. Don't, don't do that. Don't do that. I didn't do a false flag operation in Syria. My poor uncle who still lives in Turkey didn't do a false flag operation in Syria. Turkish intelligence did that. They're a government, they're an intelligence agency.
Starting point is 00:19:50 They don't represent us all. And when you put that on Jews across the world, you're driving up at seven. There's no random Jewish person got a call from Assad. It's both wrong, counterproductive, and most importantly, inaccurate. Inaccurate, don't smear all Jews. They got nothing to do with Mossad. They're not a Musad, we're not in the CIA. So it's a disgusting use of anti-Semitism and bigotry as a shield and a weapon by the unsurprisingly disgusting current Israeli government.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I mean, the guys who committed a genocide, oh, they're burning up credibility for the very legitimate charge of anti-Semitism in other cases for their own political purposes. Wow, color me shocked by the angels who run the current Israeli government. So let's go to the evidence, I've got more, but so I'm gonna just give you one tweet from Glenn Greenwald. Actually, before we go there, in case you're wondering, so remember Alex Acosta, he was the guy who let Epstein go with a slap on the wrist, the prison sentence where he didn't have to stay in prison. He just treated it like a hotel. He could go out at night during the day, the entire day. That's not a prison. Okay. And they said that it was solicitation of prostitution.
Starting point is 00:21:04 No, it was rape of underage girls. Anyway, Acosta told others back in 2007, quote, I was told Epstein belong to intelligence and to leave it alone. Okay, now, Acosta never said it on the record. So people say, oh, it's hearsay. No, people heard him say it, and they reported, and we're not in a court of law. We're in a court of public opinion. So he apparently said that to multiple people. So several people right or wrong are saying, yeah, Acosta told me that Epstein was an intelligence agent,
Starting point is 00:21:39 and that's why he couldn't prosecute him. So whatever happened at Costa anyway, many years later, he became the labor secretary for Donald Trump in his first term. He has nothing to do with labor, no expertise in labor at all. He was a prosecutor. I'm sure it was a wild coincidence. Okay, so and and once, and this is at times of Israel reporting this, Epstein himself told someone else that he was CIA. By the way, that, you know, you can say, hey, maybe not Mazad, maybe just CIA. That's what Epstein said. Perfectly legitimate, super legitimate. It might be just CIA. We don't know. So Glenn writes, one of Epstein's closest friends was former Israeli Prime Minister Ahud Barak. Ahud Barak visited Epstein only 30 times. Okay, number two,
Starting point is 00:22:27 a key source of Epstein's vast wealth, though mysterious, was from Les Wexner, whose primary life cause is Israel. I looked into it. That is also. So absolutely true, an enormous donor to APAC, absolutely obsessed with Israel. And one day he says, oh, that fired math teacher with no college degree, you could handle all of my wealth, hundreds of millions of dollars. And you could take almost as much as you like. Huh, that probably happens all the time. It's not like Les Wexner was a businessman who's sophisticated and knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:23:06 him. Oh, no, he was enormously good businessman. Made a lot of money. But, oh, you're a math teacher with no college degree who was fired. Sure, take all my money. Yeah, that's probably happens. All right, number three, Galane Maxwell's father, the billionaire Robert Maxwell, was a Mossad agent who mysteriously died after that was reported. Though Maxwell was British, Israel gave him a state funeral when he died. By the way, Yitzhak Rabin, the prime minister at the time attended. one of the most legendary Mossad agents of all time. He stole information that allowed them to win some of the wars that they won in the early years. And so if you're in Israeli, you can say, hey, listen, man, Robert Maxwell, he stole from
Starting point is 00:23:52 the Americans, the British, et cetera, but God bless him, we won those wars because of Robert Maxwell. But you can't say he wasn't a Mossad agent. They give him a state funeral saying, what a great Mossad agent. That's interesting, Epstein's dead, but Galane Maxwell, the daughter of the legendary a Mossad agent not dead. Okay, number four, oh by the way, here's another side note. No, before I go to that, hundreds, maybe thousands of men raped underage girls. The only person currently in prison for it is a woman. Okay, because they're rich and powerful men, we can't touch. Okay, number four, Epstein got the red carpet treatment when visiting Israel. Number five,
Starting point is 00:24:31 Epstein bankrolled major investments in Israeli tech. Look, guys, this, all of this mean It's definitely Mossad and we know and we crack the case and this is definitive proof and it would stand up in court. No, no, no, no, no. The real proof is in the tapes, whether they still exist or not or they were all destroyed by elves in the American government. Nomes just popped up out of nowhere, but not CIA or Mossad. Just random gnomes and just grabbed all the tapes and grabbed all the clients and grabbed all the evidence and made it disappear. But probably not connected to our government or our allies governments. They're trying to treat you like you're stupid.
Starting point is 00:25:09 They are insulting our intelligence in every way imaginable. So, so, you know, today somebody, I mean, this happens all the time. It's no big deal, it's a minor thing, some random guy say, oh, I can't believe you're working with Tucker Carlson on this. Okay, and now Megan Kelly has joined in and Megan Kelly's like, yeah, of course he's legitimate to ask if it's a Mossad. We don't know that it's a misod, we're asking. It's one of the most plausible theories. And people are like, oh, now you're working with Megan Kelly and Tucker Ross. I'm not working with anyone, man.
Starting point is 00:25:37 We happen to be asking the same logical question. Can we, can we all ask, hey, is it raining outside or is that, oh, now you guys are working again? And we're working together to what? Exposed Donald Trump and his administration for covering this up? How is that a bad thing? Okay, look, don't believe you're lying politicians. They're the ones who are constantly telling you this is no big deal, except, as always, the
Starting point is 00:26:00 two exceptions, Bernie Sanders and Rokana. No, in this case, a bunch of folks on the progressive left, AOC as well, questioning this, et cetera. Rokana is saying, let's have a vote right now on releasing the Epstein files. Let's go. Let's put everybody on the record. How weird. Almost none the Republican or Democrat in the House is joining Rokana and saying, let's expose the Epstein files. You know, Congress can do it.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And he's saying, let's go, let's put it to a vote. And all the politicians are, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no way, no way. Why? If you're a Democrat, why? Trump might be on the list. Now, Maga saying Trump might be on the list. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. My handler, I mean, I mean my babysitter, I mean, my friend who just randomly happens to follow me everywhere from APEC, who also randomly gave me a million dollars, says no, but he can't be my son. That is the one thing you're not allowed to say.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Okay, this, if you don't think this is weird, you think this is normal, that both parties, me and Tucker and Megan aren't colluding. The Republican and Democratic politicians are colluding. We're just sitting on the outside going, what the hell is going on? Okay, but no, we're not allowed to ask that question. No, we are allowed. We just asked it. We all asked it forcefully.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And if you try to cover it up by weaponizing bigotry to use for your own political purposes, you're a terrible person. And if you're covering up child rape, you're a terrible person. And that applies to almost all of Washington. All right. Sharon, any last thoughts? I know we've got to move out of here, but I do have just one last one. You know, you mentioned just slain Maxwell.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Why do you think we don't hear more from her? She's got to know more leveraging. Why isn't she being talked about more? Because no one in power will ever talk about any of this. Because like folks are talking about Gillian Maxwell now online pretty very regularly, right? I mean, Tucker brought her up. I'm bringing her up. I mean, the fact that her dad was a legendary Mossad agent and happened to just get a billion dollars is kind of relevant.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And then Epstein turns up with hundreds of millions of dollars when he doesn't even have a college degree, right? And oh, look, the guy who gave him those hundreds of millions of dollars is an enormous supporter of his. We're not supposed to ask these questions. But the reason why it's not coming up in official circles is every politician in almost every politician in D.C. and almost every reporter in Washington, D.C. is deathly afraid of Israel. I mean, there one last thing, Sharon, to that point, when Tucker said everybody he knows in D.C. thinks it was Mossad. I don't have the same experience. I, only some of the people I know in Washington think it was Mossad. But do any of those people say it publicly? No, no. Because
Starting point is 00:28:52 they know that if you say something like that publicly, you'll be smeared for the rest of your life. And in official circles, you'll be, they'll call you an anti-Semite and try to ruin your life for asking a perfectly legitimate question. So don't tell me they don't do it. When they do it, everyone knows they do it. That's why everyone is deathly afraid of criticizing Israel inside of Washington. So those are stone cold facts. They're doing a genocide now. We gave another free $30 billion, both Trump and Biden.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And then every time people criticize, oh, you're not allowed. Come on, come on. You're every day insulting our intelligence. No, this is a very legitimate question. And of course, the government in its infinite corruption will never tell us the truth. Until you get one honest, one, in our lifetime, we could just get one honest person into the White House. And look, if the CIA did it, why don't you just say it? Like, okay, oh, yeah, that implicates the CIA.
Starting point is 00:29:50 You're goddamn right, it implicates the CIA. It implicates America. No, it means America is cleaning up its own house. It implicates past governments. It doesn't implicate us today. It makes us look better today because we're willing to be honest. We're willing to call out our own government, our own intelligence agencies, and we're willing to going forward protect all American citizens.
Starting point is 00:30:16 But the people in power in D.C. absolutely positively refuse to do that. That is why everyone across the board has lost trust in government. And then they wonder, oh, why don't they like government? Why do they believe conspiracy theories? Because you're a bunch of liars. And we're all sick of everyone in government and almost everyone in mainstream media lying to us our whole lives. That's why you lost credibility.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Okay. I was an excited answer to your calm question, but it's a good. No, I mean, I get it. I just, you know, the news cycles, even when it's the worst, most horrific story, even when it's about war, whatever, you name it, it's only going to last for so long. This one, though, feels different. Yeah. Because people like you, perhaps a Tucker, not going to let it go. And there is that whole faction of MAGA who's saying, deep state, and we want the answers now.
Starting point is 00:31:14 We want to know what happened. So we'll see. Yep. We'll see. Take a quick break and we'll get right back with you. You guys, CD, Norse Dad, Norse Dog Dad, thank you for a gifting a membership on YouTube. G Daddy, Puff Dragon, and Patrick Royster, thank you for gifting five apiece. You guys are amazing, beautiful people.
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Starting point is 00:32:33 So like, this is exactly what I was hoping would happen. It is beginning to happen. So we should we should all be ready to engage there and bring back voters who. who agreed with us on core issues. So I love that you're getting it and feel the same hope that I do. And last one, Art Guy says, gotta say weekends with Jenk is my new favorite news and opinion action dramedy show. It's got everything. I'm doing these live videos on the weekends on our YouTube channel.
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Starting point is 00:33:34 This is one of the longer ones. The post is too long to show you in its entirety, in fact, that's how long it was. So we'll just give you some excerpts momentarily. But Jenk, you've already read that statement, digested it fully, we'll say. What was your initial reaction? So the initial reaction is he's telling him on himself. This is almost a confession. So we're going to break it down for you guys so you see what happened.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Then I'm greatly amused by Donald Trump's lawyer, who was also Epstein's lawyer. Huh, yet another coincidence coming in to say, no, trust me, my clients didn't do it. Oh, well, that's super compelling. So we'll get to that a little bit later. But one of the things I didn't notice the first time I broke it down, Sharon, was something that some right wingers pointed out, where I now think, oh, no, is it possible? Well, I'll tell you what that is as we go through. All right, can't wait to hear about that. But first, let's give you some of those snippets of what Trump wrote.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Here's the first. We have a perfect administration. The talk of the world and selfish people are trying to hurt it. All over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. Okay. Why are we giving-go? Sorry, before I even go further. Apparently, it was right in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Okay, so that was the one, so I don't want to overly tease you. I just want to tell you what we promised you. So that was the one where right-wringers were like, what do you mean Epstein never dies? And then I was like, guys, come on, let's not get into Tupac's alive and so is Elvis and all this stuff, right? But then I was like, wait, Trump has verbal diarrhea. Like, he always says what's at his mind accidentally, right? The guy who never dies, it is a curious thing that he said. So is that enough to think that Jeffrey Erippson is actually alive?
Starting point is 00:35:24 No, no, is it even likely that he's still alive? I'm gonna guess, no, no, not likely, okay? That's one of the wilder conspiracy theories. But the guy who never dies, when Trump says something, it was usually top of mind. Okay, Jessica makes you go, no big deal, let's keep going. All right, number two, why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama, crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the losers and criminals of the Biden administration who conned the world with the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, 51 intelligence agents, the laptop from hell. And more, they created the Epstein files, just like they created a fake Hillary Clinton, Christopher Steele. dossier.
Starting point is 00:36:13 It's Sean, I'm gonna jump in again. Yeah, you have to, you have to. Right, this is, yeah. Wait, so the Department of Justice released a member last week saying there are no EFstein files, now Trump is revising that to say, there are the EFstein files, they're just fake. And Obama and Biden created them. But wait, if Obama and Biden created them, why did you run on them? Why did you tell everyone they were real and that you were outraged and you were going to
Starting point is 00:36:42 to the bottom of it. And are they fake or do, or do they not exist? Because if they're fake, well, go right, that's all right, show it. And show us how they were fake and how they were doctor. That's super interesting. Release the fake files. This guy's an idiot. So he's digging and digging.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And throughout this, he was insulting his own voters. This went over like a lead balloon. Maga hated the same. ratioed on true social about this. Wow. So more. Wow. Kosh Patel and the FBI must be focused on investigating voter fraud, political corruption. It's blue. The rigged and stolen election of 2020 and arresting thugs and criminals instead of spending month after month, look at nothing but the same old radical left inspired documents on Jeffrey Epstein. Let Pam Bondi do her job. She's great.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Okay, so the radical left came up with the Epstein files. Apparently. So he's saying that MAGA, all of MAGA was hoodwicked by the radical left. There are no Epstein files or they're fake or both. And MAGA was just not bright enough to realize it was a radical left plot. As Donald Trump, Dan Pashino, Cash Fettel, J.D. Vance, and almost everyone in the right wing talked about how important the Epstein files were throughout. Were they also hoodwinked? Was Trump hoodwinked when he was talking about the Epstein files? All right, okay. I guess he's calling MAGA stupid and that they, and that all of this is fake. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:38:30 But then I have one quick question, Sharon. Who raped all those girls? Because if it's fake and it never existed, do the girls not exist? Do the nearly $500 million in payouts for lawsuits regarding those rapes? They just paid them for no reason? Galane Maxwell is in prison, even though there's no evidence against her. Epstein killed himself right before he was about to be released because there's no evidence. Or the evidence was fake. Uh-oh, Donald Trump's in a lot of trouble here, because this is boring.
Starting point is 00:39:05 This is bona fide horse grab, and now not just the left in independence, but MAGA can see the horse crap. All right, keep going. Well, here's more. The horse is still going. One year ago, our country was dead, and now it's the hottest country anywhere in the world. Let's keep it that way and not waste time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Oops. A lot of people care.
Starting point is 00:39:35 A lot of people care. No, no, no. Sharon, when he says nobody cares about it, that might enrage people more than any of the other horse crap we just went over. Because they're like, are you kidding me right now? You're telling me that the thing we were all animated by, most animated by, for the last 10 years, nobody cares about it, you're now pretending that we don't care about it? No, I care about a brother, I care about it.
Starting point is 00:40:00 So when he insults their intelligence and tells them, now your job is to not care about it anymore. more. They're like, no, wrong brother, not my job. And that's why MAGA is fighting within itself now, because some of the Trump guys are just going, no, Trump, Trump, Trump. And a lot of the other MAGA guys are going, no, not Trump, Trump, Trump. Like, this is BS, no matter where it comes from. And now some of the, within the MAGA split, the MAGA guys that believe in the idea of anti-establishment are starting to attack the pro-Trump guys as a cult that just backs the instead of the ideas that they believed in. So I mean, within six months of Trump taking office.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So if you were hoping for a MAGA split or you were, I mean, you couldn't have asked for better than this. I mean, what I would greatly prefer is to find out who actually got did the goddamn crimes, right? I would love to know who did their crimes. But the fact that a huge percentage of MAGA is waking up here is a silver lining. Talk about the Attorney General Pam Bondi, of course, she's taking the brunt of MAGA's criticism over the obscene files, bait and switch is the accusation mostly. But judging from that post, Donald Trump seems to be staying, with Bondi for now, for now at least.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Last week that we covered a series of reports that alleged FBI director Kash Patel and FBI deputy director Dan Bongino were on the verge of resigning from the Trump administration if Bondi got to keep her job. Bongino hasn't commented on that speculation, but Patel has denied the reporting. Let's see what he wrote on X here.
Starting point is 00:42:00 The conspiracy theories just aren't true. Never happened. It's an honor to serve the press of the United States at real Donald Trump. And I'll continue to do so for as long as he calls on me. Kash Patel. Okay, wait, wait, wait. Is he saying that this was a conspiracy theory all along?
Starting point is 00:42:20 Because he's on tape talking about it dozens of times. Like this is breaking every record on gas lighting. Now Cash Patel is like, oh, you guys are all crazy. No, there was no Jeffrey Epstein, you know, issue at all. You guys are all conspiracy theorist, and so am I. What is this? This is beyond ludicrous. Okay, keep going. Well, maybe somebody who's an insider will help you understand this thing, Jenk. Trump's former lawyer, David Schoen, denying that the president is in the Epstein files. Here's what he wrote on X. I was hired to lead Jeffrey Epstein's defense as his
Starting point is 00:43:05 criminal lawyer nine days before he died. He sought my advice for months before that. I can say authoritatively, unequivocally, definitively, he had no information to hurt President Donald Trump. I specifically asked him. Now there's a lawyer, an insider, a jank, who's probably one of the last people who had substantial conversations with Jeffrey Epstein. Do you believe him? So let me have this right, he was Epstein's lawyer and he was Trump's lawyer and he says, don't worry about it, they're both innocent. Oh wow, what an authoritative source. Oh wait, Trump and Epstein had the same lawyer. Things that make you go, hmm. Okay, so it was a brief time for both of them, but Alan Dershowitz represented both of them as well.
Starting point is 00:43:55 But don't worry, Alton Dersh. Actually, Alan Dershowitz says that apparently according to Betty Johnson, that he took Epstein to Israel all the time and met with members of parliament. And we saw the other last week, Dershowitz on tape telling Sean Spicer, oh no, I know that there's a list and I know who's involved. But I'm not going to tell you because of confidentiality reasons. So we all know there's a list. We all know there's people on it. But no, no, Trump and Epstein's lawyer says, you can look away now. Okay, very convincing.
Starting point is 00:44:33 You know, people actually cited that. Like, that's what cracked me up. Like, who cares? I mean, of course his lawyer is going to say he's innocent, right? But like people in, like, establish from media, they're like, oh, no. No, Trump's lawyer says that he's not involved with Epstein. Also Epstein's lawyer. So that settles it.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Does it? Officer of the court, dang? These are officers of the court. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So look, despite the best efforts of Trump has, His administration, his allies, the MAGA base is still very unhappy about this.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And that's because their messaging has been all over the place. Journalist Prem Thacker did a good job of summarizing how Trump and his administration have talked about the Epstein files. So they actually have been talking about it. They talked about it before. And then once in office, here's what they're saying. We're releasing the obscene files day one. There are no Epstein files. Here's video proof, nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Okay, we had to edit it. There are no Epstein files. There are Epstein files, but the Democrats made them. Why do you care so much about this Epstein guy? What are files? Look, I don't know what kind of a job they could have done better here, trying to make this thing go away, but this ain't it. Again, it's like that news cycle question for you.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Who's going to win this one? So no one's going to win this one because the people who want to have seen files released and the people and the guys who did it prosecuted, it looks like we have no prayer at all. I mean, the only prayer is like someone populist left like Bernie Sanders, who they can't call anti-Semitic and who would just go, oh, so the CIA did it. So you're telling me or Massa did it. So that's why I can't release the files. Yes, I can.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Look, I never liked those agencies anyway, right? So that's your only prayer. Other than that, right, it's, you're not going to get where you want. Every corporate Democrat and every corporate Republican will bend a knee. They will never, ever, ever release these files. And by the way, most importantly, never prosecute any of the rapists, right? So the entire, how are we supposed to not get frustrated? And the entire government and both parties say to our face, hundreds, maybe even thousands
Starting point is 00:46:59 of American underage girls were raped, and we're not gonna prosecute a single person who did it. No, that's untenable. But they're not going to. They're never, ever, ever going to do it, okay? So we're not gonna win. But if Trump thinks he's gonna win with the Obama files, Biden created the Epstein files, And like the reason why I say he's telling on himself is you're acting so nervous and defensive. Like he's almost everything that true social post was engineered so that if you find out Trump is on the list, he'll get to say, no, no, it was Obama and Biden that created a fake file, a fake file.
Starting point is 00:47:42 That's what it was, right? And down the list, right, of everything he wrote on there. You should stop asking about it. Pam Bond is doing a great job. Who cares who's on the list? No one cares who's on the list. Brother, like, why don't you just wear a chain that says, I'm on the list. So look, again, we don't know if it's because Trump and Clinton were on the list and their power, you know, protecting the powerful, et cetera, or some intelligence agencies.
Starting point is 00:48:07 But either way, they're not going to release it. Trump's going to get, is getting currently getting slaughtered by his own base over this. And if he keeps insisting on this for three and a half years, I'm not even sure he's going to make it. People are so freaking angry over this. But overall, Sharon, last thing that's really important, they're now eroding the trust in all of government and all institutions to a dangerous point. Like people are starting to give up on democracy. Yeah. And so the alternative is much, much, much worse.
Starting point is 00:48:42 So we we desperately urgently need a government that's going to listen to the American people just a little bit. Like they forgot to do the release valve in this one. And so without the release valve, this thing's going to blow. And I hope it doesn't happen and I'm worried to death about it. But now the anger on all sides is going to dangerous levels. Because the U.S. government is definitely lying to us. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:11 But isn't that, you know, when I say, winning and I know we got to run it couldn't instead of giving up on democracy that that that carries this this anger this energy through the midterms to start to you know change the tide here yes absolutely look this i know one organization that's honest is rebellion pack because i run it so when car eastman etc and so look those are all people who don't take corporate pack money who've made a pledge to deliver on these things when they get into office. So check out RebellionPack.com. I know other guys who are honest, Wolfpack, Fight Corruption.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Dot Us, they want to get the money out of politics so all of our politicians aren't crooks. But if you, like, if you're hoping that, hey, if the Democrats win the midterms, but it's not populist left, it's not rebellion, it's just like, oh, the Adam Schiff wing added a couple of votes, they're not gonna do anything. If they have subpoena power, do you think they're gonna subpoena the Epstein list? Of course not. They had four years to do it under Biden. They didn't do it because they don't want to.
Starting point is 00:50:17 The Democrats here, I don't know if you can say equally corrupt. I don't really care if it's 55, 45, or one way or another. All I know is both parties 100% are covering up this horrific crime. So the way that they could prove to us that they're not is the minute one of the parties is in charge, like the Republicans are now, either in Congress or the White House, they both have the power to do it, they could just release the list. If they don't do it, then they're obviously part of the cover up and part of those rapes. Yeah, I said it. So if you're a Democratic politician and you're not voting with Rokana to make sure that these crimes are exposed, you're guilty.
Starting point is 00:51:03 That's it, period. Also obviously of Republicans and obviously of Donald Trump. All right, we got to Take a break. More Maga Rebellion, massive rebellion against Trump when we return. below. All right, Sharon, what's next? Maga melee, Jank? Watch. Okay. So President Trump has acknowledged that the Epstein files exist here. President Trump has acknowledged that the files were written and that there is something there. He says that they were written, however, by his enemies and therefore will not
Starting point is 00:52:03 be released. What? But by admitting that the Epstein files are real and have been written and that you've read them and you don't like their contents and they were written by your enemies, it doesn't make the most compelling case as far as I'm concerned. holy moly Sunday President Donald Trump told us supporters to stop caring about the Epstein files as you can tell that strategy
Starting point is 00:52:41 not too successful not yet a lot more Magafuri where that came from as we mentioned there are many more conservatives who were very unhappy with President Trump's response watch this clip we go to Travis in South Dakota Hello, Travis.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Hi, Glenn. Hi, Jason. I tell you what, guys, I feel really betrayed and I feel really, really angry. We have a president who tells us to move on from Epstein because it doesn't matter. Are you guys still talking about this, seriously? And yet he still talks about the 2020 election fraud. I'm a free American. I supported Donald Trump in this last election.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Yes, he did just actively cover up a giant child rapist. and I'm going to criticize him for that, okay? And I'm sorry, after all these years of us right-wingers saying, protect the children, come on, that's bad for your soul if you don't. You speak up about that. It's horrible what he's doing. We went from, I've got thousands of hours of footage. There ain't no files.
Starting point is 00:53:43 We're saying nothing. There's no list. I don't know. I'm getting sick and tired of being lied to. I'm being sick and tired of all the lies. And by the way, I don't care if those lies are coming from someone with a deep. next to their name or someone with an R next to their name. I'm sick of the lies and I'm calling you all out. All right, so a lot of passionate voices there. At least Fox News. That's got to be a
Starting point is 00:54:09 safe spot for the president, right? No, Fox News hosts also chimed in criticizing Donald Trump. Watch. If there's anybody who could walk in and say, okay, we've resolved all of the questions and there is nothing here. It would be President Trump and his crew. The problem is you can't really do it without giving some explanation. And there has to be some explanation. And I think that's why you have a lot of people still pretty, with a lot of very valid questions about it. You absolutely nailed it.
Starting point is 00:54:41 You can diffuse this ticking time bomb if you simply get out there. You can't tell me that a thousand people were hurt and that there are no people out. out there that we can arrest. You can't tell me that, oh, sorry, we don't have a list. Fine, don't have a list. Tell me who the perpetrators were. It's obvious that this is a huge PR disaster for the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:55:00 There's no way for them to spin their way out of this. I think the Epstein issue had for a lot of magotypes became a proxy for whether this DOJ was going to live up to their very high expectations. And obviously Bondi, Bonino, Patel, everyone involved in this sort of failed on that. Whether or not this was a cover up, Now there's almost like a cover up of a cover up going on.
Starting point is 00:55:23 And Pam Bondi and others are insulting the intelligence of their base. More outrage on X, Megan Kelly wane in. There are really only two options. There's no huge undisclosed there on Epstein. Bondi misled on it until she didn't. And Trump is quick to forgive a loyal soldier for being desperate to get on TV. Or number two, there is a scandal that's being covered covered up and it's at his direction.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Patrick Bet David stated this in regards to Epstein. Either stop bringing up why many are annoyed with the Epstein cover up and take the L or tell your base the truth. Whatever you do though, stop blaming the voters. This isn't the voters fault. Over explaining is often the loudest whisper of doubt. Gunther Eagleman, I was told no one is above the law. But there are still loyalists, still some that are sticking with Donald Trump. Here's Alex Jones blaming the whole mess on the Democrats. As you know, I just call balls and strikes. And after years of saying they were
Starting point is 00:56:38 released the Epstein Fowler list, suddenly they're not going to and we're told it doesn't exist. But then Trump comes out last night and says, well, it does exist, but the Democrats had control of it manipulated it, which is actually true. They've had control, but they would destroy anything they didn't want in there and leave what they wanted in there. And then Trump wants it closed. He wants it shut down, which looks extremely, extremely incriminating. But from all of my deep research, never saw Trump involve in any illegal activity with Jeffrey Epstein.
Starting point is 00:57:05 So we are simply here tracking this case, not choosing aside, not wanting to make things be what we want them to be, but simply looking at the facts. but I dropped the ball. I didn't even think about the fact. I'm like, oh, yeah, if they've had the list and they've had the files for years, the Democrats would take stuff out and destroy it. Well, that's obvious. They would leave in and twist and put in what they wanted.
Starting point is 00:57:32 So Alex Jones has done deep research. Charlie Kirk, meantime is completely over it, announcing that he will no longer be discussing the Epstein files. Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being. I'm going to trust my friends in the administration. I'm going to trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it, balls in their hand. I would love to see the DOJ move to unseal the grand jury testimony.
Starting point is 00:57:57 I think that would be a big win. I would love to see that. And I'm going to trust my friends, Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, my friend Pam Bondi, all these guys, I'm going to Todd Blanche, I'm going to trust them to solve it. We don't need to know all the details here. Leave it to the people that are duly elected and they'll handle it, the administration. The timing of that statement by Kirk is very interesting. Look at what CNN reported just over the weekend. President called some of the Attorney General's most vocal critics in an
Starting point is 00:58:25 effort to stem the bleeding over the obscene files. Three sources familiar with the matter told CNN. Trump's calls included one with conservative activist Charlie Kirk on Saturday to express his support for Bondi. And yesterday, Alex Jones stated that Trump world surrogates are threatening to punish influencers for speaking out. Take a look at this. The attempts by some of Trump world surrogates to reach out to talk show hosts and journalists and influencers and say, hey, your access will be cut off. You'll never be invited to a Trump event again. You'll never be about at the White House. You'll never be any of this stuff. You're not getting conservative sponsorship, you know, no campaign contribution,
Starting point is 00:59:08 you know, ads running next cycle if you do this. That's been going on. Can Trump and his loyalists get control of this thing through threats, access, please to kind of beat it back and bury it for once and for all? Yeah, no, I don't think they can. So this is putting two different things at play here. So there's so much to talk about also when a comment on a bunch of things Alex Jones just said and Charlie Kirk said. First, though, I'm very curious about this poll. So the show's live 6 to 8 p.m. every day, right, Monday through Friday.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And so we're asking, like if we asked you, will some of MAGA break on this story and oppose Trump? Well, that jury already came in. I mean, if you say, no, nobody in MAGA broke, you're on a different planet. Hope God, you have oxygen on that planet. No, MAGA is in full revolt. That's not an open question anymore, right? So that wouldn't be interesting. Now some on the left have moved the goalposts.
Starting point is 01:00:15 No, they have to break away from Trump and then say that they will vote for Kamala Harris next time. Nobody's going to say that. No, they have to say that Joe Biden was young and dynamic. No, they're not, nobody's going to say that, okay? So like your absurd thing of like, oh, no, I need Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson and all of the Mago and Trump voters. In order for it to count, in order for it to count, they have to say that's. I will never ever ever support Trump again. I will only support Democrats and I'm ready to vote for AOC. No, that's not I'm not asking that question. That's ludicrous, right?
Starting point is 01:00:51 But we are asking this. Will MAGA influencers forgive Trump over the Epstein fiasco? And I think that is a good question. Like right now they're super mad, but the influencers or in the, by the way, I don't even believe the influence are super mad. The influencers are caught in a way that I'm gonna explain in a second. The base is mad, right? So will the influencers for quote unquote forgive Trump over Epstein fiasco? And yes is, oh interesting, yes is not winning, no is winning. Wow, 45 35 and not sure is at 20.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I'm kind of in the not sure camp, but all right, so let's let's talk about it real quick. So just on Alex Jones, when that was hilarious when he's like, I just call balls and strike. Yeah, that's what you're known for. I've done deep research on this. Really? Did you go to the CIA? Did you go to Mossad's office? How did you do deep research?
Starting point is 01:01:46 What does that mean? I googled myself online and I found my older conspiracy theories and I did research on that. So I did deep research. Alex, come on, let it go. All right. I mean, I know your fans believe it, but no one else does. And but the only thing funnier was when Charlie Kirk was like, I trust my friends in the government. Oh, you do.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Okay, that that's our standard now because I remember when Democrats said, no, no, just trust Biden. And MAGA and Charlie Kirk were like, that makes sense. You just trust the people in the government. I remember them saying that over and over again. Look, here on the Young Turks, we're principled and we hated the trust Biden strategy. And that literally was a strategy that the Democrats insisted on during the votes on the bills, right? It was literally called trust Biden. And here are the Young Turks who were like, no, we don't trust.
Starting point is 01:02:35 trust Biden, and guess what? We were right, okay? And so now Charlie Kirk saying, don't worry, just trust Trump and government officials. So that's sharing where we get to that conundrum. Because now the right wing influencers are caught between all of the people like the Trump guy's going, you're going to lose access, you better be a team player. And if you notice, the one thing Alex Jones said that was relevant and sounded true was saying, you're going to lose, the money. You're going to lose ads on your show. You're going to lose sponsors. As I was seeing Charlie's panic. Meanwhile, he's like ripping into all Muslims, etc. on the other side and oh, I'm Donnie terror, parasite. I'm like, this brother's got some serious, let's put it this
Starting point is 01:03:25 way. Supporters who are, who lean towards Israel, okay, for whatever reason. He's like, no, no, no, no, trust the government. Trust the government. Okay, don't question. anything and remember the real problem, Muslims. Okay, now Alex Jones tells me that they're threatening the sponsors of the shows. You put two and two together, you're gonna come up with four, okay? But on the other hand, they're also audience captured, and their own right wing audience is in a fiery rebellion. And any host that goes on there and goes, no, there is nothing to look at here.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Everything is just fine, like Ben Shapiro did. like his own audience is like F you and the horse you rode in on or whatever you wrote in. Okay, so Mark Levin, FU. Now Charlie Kirk is beginning to get FUs because this is now he did it twice. There's another tape of him saying, I'm not taking questions on that. And people are like, oh, now I see what's going on, right? So their own audiences in rebellion and they don't know how to handle it. That's why we We started with that Benny Johnson clip of him being like, holy moly, I don't know what to do. How do I know what they're going to do if they don't know what they're going to do? So I'm voting not sure.
Starting point is 01:04:49 But they're in trouble dog because and by the way, of all the things that their audiences ever put pressure them on them for, I mean, thank what we kind of got lucky in a sense. This is the one thing their audience is right about. So of all the other things that they could put pressure on, and they do, et cetera, and they can go in the wrong direction, we, at least on this one, the voters align, right wing and left wing voters align. And I love that they're putting pressure on. And by the way, if you're a left winger, you should also put pressure on left wing shows, to be
Starting point is 01:05:20 honest. Don't let them get away with like, oh, no, no, no, just Trump, just Trump, Biden. Like I get this all the time. Why are you even mentioning Biden? I don't know, because he also covered up for four. years. So somebody wrote in on Superjack, Gabe G. Should Biden have released the Epstein files when he was in office? Of course, of course. Look, nobody's ever said that Biden was on the list. People are talking about Clinton and Trump has possibilities. But it
Starting point is 01:05:48 doesn't matter. Biden didn't release it, no Republican released it, no Democrat released it. And they're not releasing it now. So that's no excuse for Donald Trump. He's president right now. And good news, his side is saying, no, it's no excuse for or at least the great majority of his voters are, right? We should also be principled and say Biden, and also because it's true, Biden had no excuse not to release those obscene files, and he didn't release them either. This is the entire American government working against the American people. That's why the story is so big.
Starting point is 01:06:21 And that's why we took so long and we're way past time. Interesting stuff, though. Whoever programmed this first hour, the Trump administration is furious. said stop talking about this guy. Oh, God, like every story. Golly, gee, I might lose access to the Trump here. Oh, look at that, no ads for you. Man, I bet they get so much money.
Starting point is 01:06:42 That's so, that Alex Jones thing, that's so frustrating, man. And then they turn around, go, oh, sorry, this is funding all you guys. Where, where? It's just projection, because they all get, you know, funding from something somehow. Anyways, all right, we got to run. Sharon is on Rebel headquarters to make sure you check that out. out when we come back. We have more amazing news. Are we going to agree with Tucker on something else? But guys, it's about a phenomenon. So come back. We'll talk about it. Jordan and I
Starting point is 01:07:13 will discuss it. We'll be right back.

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