The Young Turks - TRUMP FOUND GUILTY

Episode Date: May 31, 2024

Donald Trump found GUILTY on all counts of falsifying business records in the New York hush money trial. Republicans flip out over Trump’s guilty verdict. Israel’s Rafah Offensive puts Egypt in a dangerous bind." HOST: Ana Kasparian (@anakasparian), Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Live from the Polymarket Studio in LA, a historic episode of the Young Turks, Jake Yugar and Anna Kusparian with you guys. And I do believe we have a bit of news for you. Our country's gone to hell. We don't have the same country anymore.

We have a divided mess. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. Down goes Donald Trump, down goes Donald Trump. Guilty, all 34 counts. The most important stuff is the details and will he actually go to prison? Anna. Now this obviously makes Trump the first ever former president of the United States who has been convicted of felonies. And while there weren't any cameras allowed in the courtroom as the verdict was read, we have Jake Tapper reading the

results of the verdict, one by one, let's take a look. Donald Trump found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. All 34 are felonies. They, Donald Trump has now been convicted of 34 different felony crimes by a jury of his peers in Manhattan. Now these are 34 counts having to do with falsifying business records to cover up the campaign finance violations of paying Stormy Daniels and others hush money payments or money to kill like Karen McDougal's story in the inquirer. Now Donald Trump, of course, did not take the news so well. Let's go to this tweet that has a screenshot from Jordan Yule. Trump has a frown

expression on his face as the verdict reading is completed. He is not moving. And he did issue a statement immediately after leaving the courtroom. Let's hear what he had to say. This was a disgrace. This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt. It's a rigged trial and disgrace. It wouldn't give us a venue change. We were at 5% or 6% in this district in this area. This was a rigged disgraceful trial that the real verdict is going to be November 5th by the people and they know what happened here and everybody knows what happened here you have a sore respect DA and the whole thing we didn't do a thing wrong I'm a very innocent man and it's okay I'm fighting for our country

I'm fighting for our Constitution our whole country is being rigged right now this was done by the Biden administration in order to wound to hurt an opponent, a political opponent, and I think it's just a disgrace. And we'll keep fighting, we'll fight till the end and we'll win. Because our country's gone to hell. We don't have the same country anymore. We have a divided mess. We're nation in decline, serious decline.

Millions and millions of people pouring into our country right now from prisons and from mental institutions, terrorists, and they're taking over our country. We have a country that's in big trouble, but this was a rigged decision right from day one with a conflicted judge who should have never been allowed to try this case, never. And we will fight for our Constitution. This is long from over. Thank you very much.

Obviously, Joe Biden, as someone who serves as president and the federal government had nothing to do with this case that was brought forth by the Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. But it doesn't matter. That message that you just heard from Trump resonated with Republican voters to the point where donations to his campaign skyrocketed immediately after the verdict to the point where his win red campaign page is down. Last time I checked it was down. It might be up at this point or by the time you watch this video. But again, that message seemed to resonate calling

this a political hit job. Donald Trump's legal team, by the way, even before the verdict was read, was already planning for what to do, should Trump be found guilty? And of course, they're planning to appeal this case and make the same argument that you heard Trump make there, that he didn't have a fair shake, that this was a politically motivated trial, and that the judge was biased, that the jury was biased. So we'll see how that plays out. But I should also note that sentencing has already been scheduled for July 11th, which his attorney, Todd Blanche, had asked for.

So July 11th, that 10 a.m. will be Donald Trump sentencing. Okay, so so many things to sort out here. Is he actually going to go to prison? Can he vote if he's a convicted felon? I'm going to have the answer for you guys in a second. First on the actual sentence. He says, he's not just innocent. He's very innocent. Well, you know what would have helped your cause in proving you were very innocent if you had presented evidence during the trial that you were innocent? So he never has any evidence. He loses almost every time in court on the election issues in 2020. He lost 61 times in a row, him and his allies, because BS works great in politics and

in media unfortunately. And that's what he's good at getting in front of a TV and lying, lying, lying until people believe him, until enough people believe him. But that doesn't work in court because then the judge says, yes, but what's your evidence? And he doesn't have any. He says, oh, this is very rigged. It was because of the DA and this, well, then how come a jury of your peers convicted you? And not only that, they wanted to make sure, because they convicted him on all 34 counts.

So Trump's lawyer says, oh, yeah, I'm going to go juror by juror and make sure that they all think he's guilty. And so all the jurors said, yes, guilty on all 34 counts. That's not rare. That does happen at trials. I want to be clear. Yeah, no problem. I'm a little worried in his case. Yeah.

He's like, I'm watching all of you guys and later I'll threaten all of you. Yeah, I mean, look, obviously there is some fear about that and the jurors are worried about that. Hopefully that doesn't happen. And if it does happen, there should be consequences. There should be severe consequences. So look guys, there's going to be appeals, but once you're sentenced, then there's another question of, wait, does he go to, like a normal defendant could go to prison while the appeals are happening. Is that going to happen for Trump? That is very unlikely. I doubt it. Right. And look, my guess is probably the best you could hope for is house arrest, given that he's running for president and he's the nominee of a major party,

and he's winning currently. And of course, is this going to affect his election? All that's coming up. But first, as I promised you, can he vote? And the answer is it depends. So he's currently living in Florida and would be voting in Florida. And Florida says that they depend on where you get convicted. So they defer to the state you were convicted in, which in this case is New York. So in New York, can a convicted felon vote? And the answer is, it depends on whether he went to prison. If he went to prison, then he cannot vote. If he does not go to prison, then he can vote.

So if the appeals are done by the end, he's sentenced, by the time the election comes around, and he has to go to prison in any way, shape, or form, then he will not be able to vote in his own election. Would that also include house arrest? So we're going to have to see, because all of this is going to get adjudicated. And of course, he's going to make a hundred different argument. and he's going to say, oh, this is all unfair, and since I'm under house arrest at Mar-a-Lago, I should be able to vote, and technically it's not a prison.

But we don't know that it's going to be house arrest. We don't know any of that. July 11th, obviously a monumental date. They're going to send us a president of the United States. Is he going to get any time? Or could they say, yes, he's guilty, but he should receive probation, parole, community service. I'd love to see him picking up trash on the side of the road. He's already orange.

It'll match his orange outfit. Stop. Do you know how fast you were going? I'm going to have to write you a ticket to my new movie, The Naked Gun. Liam Nissan. Buy your tickets now. I get a free Tilly Dog. Not included.

The Naked Gun. Tickets on sale now. August 1st. The bottom line guys is they will now, because now we're reentering the arena of media and politics, stepping outside of the courtroom, so all you will hear from his side and Fox News and all the other guys is nothing but a wall of lies that, oh no, it's not about the evidence, it's not a jury of his peers, it's, and by the way, if they had voted to quit, you would have heard the exact opposite from Fox News and all of his hours, oh, you see that, He was proven innocent, we told you, he's the best, he never did anything long.

I mean, a really good example just to juxtapose their commentary on this case versus the commentary I've been seeing from conservatives in the classified documents case. You know, the judge presiding over the classified documents case seems to favor Trump, seems to be a lot more friendly to Trump and supportive of Trump and just recently denied the prosecution's request to issue a gag order against Trump. And you see the commentary from conservatives in regard to that case. And since she seems to be more favorable to Trump, it's nothing but glowing commentary about her. Of course. And in this case, Trump has attacked the judge in 18 different ways, including today. That's all he ever does. Yes, in politics that works, tearing down your opponent. But in a court case, oh, your honor, I have, and for the appeals, he's going to say to the higher judges, well, I still have no evidence and I was definitely guilty, but I didn't like my judge.

I thought he was biased. Well, good luck with that. It's never gonna work. So look, I think that I have to be honest, this is about Trump, this is about the elections, etc. But I a little bit of indication here for me because I said this case should definitely go forward. I remember all of cable news going, well, I don't know about this case.

Oh, you know, this is this important enough, et cetera? I'm like, no, he definitely did it. There's no question he falsified the business records, as clear as day. And his co-conspirator, Michael Cohen already went to prison and was Convicted on these charges. Exactly, yeah. And so of course he was going to get convicted, convicted if there was a fair trial and there was a fair trial.

And now they say, well, look, it's not a jury. He's saying it shouldn't have been in New York. But brother, your business is in New York and the crimes are committed in New York. So what did you want us to do? Pick a random state out of a hat. That's not how the law works, but he doesn't care about the law at all. And by the way, tick, tick, tick for him firing his lawyers and not paying them. That's a really great prediction and I would not bet money against your prediction.

The thing that I will say though is I believe that this verdict was the correct verdict. I agree with the verdict and I believe that based on the evidence presented, based on the testimony that was presented during this case, he was guilty of all 34 counts. I don't think that the case was unfair to him. And again, I agree with the verdict. There's a feeling I have though, I don't know, maybe it's unjustified, but I have this feeling of unease because you're right, Cenk, now it, this issue leaves the courtroom and now there's the media manipulation, there's the political manipulation at a time when the country

is already incredibly divided, and I don't know, I'm just uneasy. No, Anna, you're totally right now, I'm super worried about it because, and what's, but an interesting visceral reaction happened for me in particular because I actually was not worried about it at all. Like I heard a lot of people worrying, you know, oh my God, what's this fan's going to do? But I'm like, look, I've seen the reactions. I've been warning about the polling that shows that over a third of Republicans say it's time for violence, et cetera, right? But I, but the minute that it was announced that he was guilty on all 34 counts, that's when I started worrying.

Yeah, same. Like it hit me instantly like, uh oh, the Trump people are going to be furious about this. And the great irony of this guys is that finally, one of the elites has been held accountable in America. A rich and powerful person has been found guilty and justice has been delivered. And the populace, now Trump's a fake populace, but I think a lot of MAGA, the voters themselves are actual populists. They hate the establishment, they hate the corruption, and they've got in a wrong

direction with Trump. But those guys now are cheerleading for, oh, you can't put our elite in jail. No, guys, we were supposed to hold everyone accountable. And but on the other hand, to the establishment who does not understand MAGA, their number one thing isn't that Trump is innocent. Yes, of course some of them think that, right? But a lot of them these days go, I know he did it, but they add but so does everyone else and they never get tried.

That is the argument that you will see. That's the more widespread argument. And by the way, that is the fairer argument. It is absolutely the fair argument. I mean, how much criminality do we see in our Congress? I mean, in some cases brazen criminality, well, it would be considered. considered criminality if we engage in the same behavior, things like insider trading and it goes with impunity, right?

Yeah, but that's exactly right. But Maga, you've got to understand, that's not a get out of jail free card. Yeah, so what aboutism isn't a defense when someone has committed a crime. Exactly. You can't go to trial and go, well, obviously I did it and I committed fraud, but what about Biden? What about Hillary? That's not a defense and that's not evidence.

That's actually a confession. So he definitely did it. If you say, well, then now I want to try Joe Biden on nothing, I'm made up charges. That doesn't make sense, then you're just targeting for people. If you have things where politicians have broken the same laws and they're Democrats, I'm gonna back you 100% on that, right? So right now they're going after Bob Menendez, who's a Democrat for doing fraud. They're going after Quayar, who's a Democrat in Texas for cooperating with Azerbaijan and

bribery, et cetera, et cetera. For being a foreign agent? For being a foreign agent, great, I hate corruption. I hate corruption in the Democratic Party, I hate corruption in the Republican Party. I wish that the populace on the right would be equally principled and say yes, Trump is guilty, obviously so. But we wish that you would look into campaign finance violations for all these crooks who are politicians. And I would agree 100% with that. But you can't say we should just let him out, even though he definitely did the crime.

And by the way, on the other charges, you know, the other trials, we'll see if they get to it within time here before the elections. But he obviously did those as well. The evidence is overwhelming and he doesn't even dispute in court. And last two things here from me on this is that he's just such a terrible defendant. Because if you're a lawyer, this is not the guy you want to defend. Even if he was innocent, he just comes in there and all he has is bluster. He makes the lawyers lie. He brings on guys like Costello who's a thug and it looks like a thug to defend him.

When all the lawyers said, what are you doing? Why did you bring this guy? All he's gonna do is antagonize the jury. He makes his lawyers dumber because he thinks that, oh, I'll just intimidate the jury. That's not how you win in a trial, you idiot, right? So, and look, I'm gonna give one comment to one of our members. Our paying members make this show possible. We love you guys, we love doing this show with you guys, t.yt.com slash team,

and you get to be part of the show, and that link is in the description box, Or you could hit the join button below. A eclectic miscellaneous, a great member of ours, has been around a long time, said 100% agree with ladies and gentlemen, we got him. But I'm waiting until November to start saying down goes Trump. That's a good point. And that's a great point because whatever sentence he gets here is not going to be anywhere near as large as the sentence he would get for basically the coup attempt when he tried to bring in the fake electors to replace the real electors or on the taking the top secret documents out. And he will be able to knock those cases out if he wins the presidency. This will seem minor in comparison.

If he wins, he'll make most of this go away. Right. So really, the election is the one that'll design whether Trump went down or not. So when we come back from the break, I actually want to get into the various polls that asked voters, including MAGA voters, MAGA supporters, whether they would change their vote, should Donald Trump be convicted of felonies? So stick around for that story, along with the reactions from Trump supporters in the media and in the political, you know, world.

We're going to talk about all of that when we come back. Don't miss it. All right. All right, back on the old Turks. Anna Kasparian and these wonderful people, Peyton Berger, Harold Silva, Mr. Sager, Marianne Van Vlick, Angelo, Polu. So those all just hit the join button, became Young Turks members and heroes. You guys allow us to do this show. We love doing the show with you guys. Chaplin, Fred, gifted five memberships, Carrie Dragon Yaya gifted one and Sam Moniker gifted 10. We appreciate all of you guys. Anna. Well, we have more in regard to the verdict finding Donald Trump guilty of all 34 counts

in the hush money payment trial. Let's talk a little bit about the reaction that we're seeing from his supporters, both in the media and in politics. And I want to believe that Americans believe in justice. And I think that in their gut, and they realize that there is something that is very wrong here. We have gone over a cliff in America. This verdict is a verdict of someone who was forced to fight a 1,000-pound gorilla

with both hands tied behind his back. We have convicted a former president of the United States of America. We've gone over a clip. Former President Donald Trump's supporters are not having a great day. They're having a rough go at things following the verdict out of Manhattan, finding him guilty of all 34 felony counts, accusing him of falsifying business records to cover up another crime. And of course, in this case, the crime was.

hush money payments paid to the likes of Stormy Daniels in the lead up to the 2016 presidential election, something that his former fixer, Michael Cohen, actually served time in prison for. Now, with that in mind, why don't we go to some of the individuals who immediately reacted, including Charlie Kirk, who on X wrote, breaking, a Manhattan jury has found Trump guilty on all counts. We knew from the start, this was the most likely outcome. This case was engineered for years from the very top of the democratic apparatus to bring down Trump using a rigged law and a rigged courtroom with a rigged jury. There's absolutely no indication that the jury is rigged. We don't even know who the jury consists of. Now let me continue.

Trump will appeal and this will eventually be overturned. It is true that the Trump legal team is planning to appeal this by the way. But this is a scar on our nation. For today, At least, this country looks more like Venezuela or China or Russia than the United States of America. Now we must be ready to maintain our resolve. There will be an unprecedented push to say that Trump cannot be allowed to win, that we cannot elect a convicted felon. Don't give in, they did this because they are desperate, they will lose, and they will pay.

Now, the polling, by the way, in regard to how voters would change, should Donald Trump be convicted of felonies, doesn't really bear out Charlie Kirk's argument, at least not to the extent that he's making it seem like. So we're gonna get to that polling in just a minute. Marjorie Taylor Green just posted an upside down flag. Lauren Bobert says that it was election interference. I have more reactions including from Vivek Ramoswamy and Tucker Carlson, who by the way, and text messages to producers over at Fox News said that he couldn't stand Donald Trump,

but publicly, of course, pretends like he's a supporter of his. We'll get to all of that in a moment. Yeah, so Marjorie Taylor Green with an upside-down American flag. I'm here, understand that's un-American. She sounds like she's against America. Maybe she should be deported. That's the way that the right wing used to talk about the left wing, if they did an upside-down flag for peace or something along those lines.

But now they're flipping the flag nonstop, because if America isn't left, led by a right wing fascist, well then boo America, you and your justice and democracy, boo is what Marjorie Taylor Green and these Republicans are saying. Let me go to our super chat and our YouTube members here now. Maple Dragon rode in on super chat, lock him up. Ha ha, love you guys, keep doing what you're doing. A lot of people chimed in the same way, Gabriel saying, lock him up, lock him up. And YouTube member Chase Essex said to Anna's point about the polling, well, and elections,

They said, Trump finally won a popular vote. Congrats Trump. A unanimous vote. Yeah, so Chase, a YouTube member here on Young Turks, excellent point. It's the first one he's ever won. So congratulations to Donald Trump. Look guys, as we give you the polling here that shows you if this is going to affect the election or not, you have to keep in mind, of course, there's going to be polling afterwards.

Because people have visceral reactions sometimes and they'll have a different reaction today. And then you should do the poll again in a week or two weeks and see if that reaction has faded. That's a good point, yeah. Right? Because when it's theoretical, you get one result, you get a different result when it's real. And remember, we're not looking to flip MAGA. Maga's dug in as much as they possibly can be, right? We're looking to see if this is going to affect some Republicans around the edges,

like the Nikki Haley kind of support is not that she's a good person, but they voted for her as the more quote unquote moderate option. And is it going to affect most importantly enough independence where they go, no, I can't vote for a felon. It feels a little old school to me, but I hope that they think that way. Because look, as you know if you watch this show, we are not fans of Joe Biden. But Donald Trump is a unique kind of monster. He did already try a fake elector plot to undermine our democracy.

And so I could be against both of them, but I'm definitely against Trump. And there's no doubt about that. So I hope this hurts his electoral chances, but the jury's still out. So let's give you the numbers. So this is based on Nathaniel Rakek over at 538. He did an aggregate of all of the polls that asked this particular question. And he says that there has been some polling showing that Trump would in fact lose some support, should he get convicted of felonies. which today he was convicted of felonies.

An April survey, for instance, from CNN SSRS found that while 76% of Trump supporters said that they would support Trump regardless, which by the way is kind of surprising, 76% is not 100%, but 24% said that they might consider or reconsider their support for him if he was convicted. A May poll from Emerson College found that 25% of voters over overall, say that a guilty verdict in New York would make them less likely to vote for Trump. And a few pollsters have also asked in their polls two versions of the question, right? Obviously the first one is the straightforward one, and one that asked respondents who they would vote for if Trump was convicted in the New York case.

On average, Trump went from leading by one percentage point in these polls without considering the conviction to trailing by six points with the conviction. That is a giant difference. But as you're gonna have to see if that really holds. Yeah, exactly. But right now, I think the first reaction is probably going to be for the right wing, certainly rage, for the left wing joy, and for the independence, probably surprise. Because remember, what, what you hear isn't what everyone hears.

Everyone hears different media, different perspectives. And what a lot of independents here is nonstop Trump. Biden hides in a cave, he does very ineffective press events. If he does press events at all, he barely has any service. They like realize at the end of the trial, oh right, we should send Robert De Niro or Rando actor because their surrogates get noticed. So what they've been hearing is wall to wall Trump's defense and Trump's side. And mind you, of course, mainstream media, which is against Trump.

Yeah, mainstream media has definitely sided against Trump. There's no question about that, right? Now, when those independents, depending on which shows they watch, which media they consume, I don't know what they were thinking and what facts they knew before about this trial and about Trump. you know, relative guilt. Now they know he has been convicted. And usually these, the American people take these convictions and acquittals pretty seriously. So when someone is acquitted outside of O.J. Simpson, people go, hey, listen, caught maybe Kyle Rittenhouse killed a couple of people, but he was acquitted. He was acquitted. And that affects a lot of people. It might not affect you, but it affects a lot of people in the middle. Now, so this

conviction might surprise you in how much it affects people that are independents. But we don't know yet. Now Vivek Ramoswamy Wade in posting on X that the prosecutor in the hush money case, meaning Alvin Bragg, is a politician who promised to nail Trump. Just want to note that all district attorneys are politicians. They, they're all elected. But let me continue. The judge's daughter is a Democrat operative who literally raised money from the trial while her father presided over it. What the daughter does shouldn't have anything to do with your judgment in regard to the judge, but it doesn't matter. Since her, since his daughter is in fact a Democrat and has raised money for Democrats, they've really latched onto this argument to make it

appear as though the judge is unfair and biased against Trump. The jury instruction said they didn't have to agree on the crime to convict, this will backfire. Look, I think the most accurate thing in Vivek Ramoswamy's or potentially accurate, let me just be clear, because I don't know for sure is the very last part about it backfiring. I am worried about that. I'm worried about what the verdict is going to do to the country, even though I agree that the verdict was the correct verdict. So we'll see how this all transpires, but I do think that there might be some truth to Vivek Ramoswamy arguing that this might backfire. I suspect that we mean different things by that statement. And then finally Tucker Carlson, of course, took it to a very dark place.

writing, import the third world, become the third world. So he made this an immigration issue, I guess. Yeah. And what he's saying is New Yorkers aren't really us. They're not real Americans because they're all, there's so many immigrants in New York. So it's not a jury of his white peers. It's a jury of black, brown, and white people mixed. Ew, ew. So you, now, Not only do they have this insane conspiracy theory about the great replacement theory that we're bringing in the immigrants to replace white electors, now they apparently have a new theory from Tucker Carlson that the immigrants were brought in to try Donald Trump. So get this, even though they have no pathway to citizenship, they're brought in, immediately made citizens somehow miraculously, and then put on the jury for Donald Trump. Do you know what level of lunatic you have to be to believe that? Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, kind of absolute raging lunatics.

Well, it gets worse from there, if you can believe it, because he's instilling paranoia and fear and anger in people's minds as this verdict has been read and people are disagreeing with it because they support Trump. He continues to write, this won't stop Trump. He'll win the election if he's not killed first. Yeah, I'm starting to hear that a lot now. These idiots think that Donald Trump is in some sort of danger, like that they, oh, because they put in a warrant that the FBI can use their weapons if they want to when they did the Mar-a-Lago raid. That is literally the language in every single warrant, including the one used to raid Biden's house.

So were they going planning to assassinate Biden? But look, guys, MAGA has two components. One is the guys who are super frustrated with the establishment, and they're sick of the corruption. and they're populists, and they've been misdirected into believing that this con man is somehow their savior. But their original instinct that there's something wrong with the system is correct. But there is also a portion of MAGA that doesn't want to listen to anything. And they think, I liked America back when we were in charge.

And I don't care how we get there. I don't care if we have to raid the Capitol. I don't care if we have to do violence. I don't care if Donald Trump's a liar and a criminal. I don't care. I don't care. I want the power back, okay? So Trump's convicted, so a good, good, I want all my guys to be convicted.

That means we don't care about the goddamn law. We want America not to be a democracy and be filled with equality, we want America to look like us. And so if you say, hey, Jake, come on, that seems a little unfair. Tucker Carlson just said it. So who do you think he's trying to appeal to? Tucker Carlson is just an inferior grade of con man. He's trying to get the audience of the half of Mago or whatever percentage you want to sign.

do it, that thinks, yeah, America should be white and this brown jury or whatever they were in New York, they're discriminating against poor Donald Trump. Those folks, you can't ever talk, you can't talk reason to those guys, but you can talk reason to half a mega at least, and most importantly, as I keep saying, the independence that are going to decide this election. But I also want to just address the fact that Tucker Carlson, especially lately, is really positioning himself as a common man, right? Someone who really understand. ordinary Americans, ordinary people, you know, he's really branding himself as this right-wing populist while simultaneously sweeping the crimes of the former president.

Because he says that this marks the end of the fairest justice system in the world, because God forbid, one of their own, an elite, should be convicted of the crimes that he committed. And then he ends the statement with, anyone who defends this verdict is a danger to you, and your family. Now, if you happen to be one of the many corrupt politicians and members of the elite in this country, I can understand why that last sentence would resonate with you. Because, I mean, at least in my lifetime, this is the first time I've seen someone as powerful as a former president deal with a conviction for crimes that he has committed.

We have not seen that before. This is unprecedented. But this might actually open the floodgates for prosecution of other powerful people within our government who should be prosecuted. And that includes democratic lawmakers. Oh, I couldn't agree more. So look, guys, most of the media that you watch, you'll see one side or the other. Oh, okay, great that Trump is convicted, but my God, you should never investigate Democrats, right? Or by the way, a lot of establishment of Republicans.

Or you'll see the guys who say, oh, no, Trump shouldn't be convicted. Who cares if he did the crime? No, we're honest and principled here. And so is our audience. I'm gonna get to that in a second. And we say, if Trump broke the law, and I don't give a damn that he's a former president, the whole point of the country is that no one's above the law, right? But that also applies to Democrats, no matter where they come from, and no matter what they stand for. If you're a crook, you should go to jail, period. I don't give a damn about your partisan affiliation or what party you're in. And I love how

principled our audiences, YouTube members, Straw Hat, Dragon said he should be able to vote. That's right. The progressive position is that felon should be allowed to vote. Don't change it because of Trump. Don't be unprincipled and go, well, everybody I like should be able to vote, but not Trump or people I don't like, right? So way to stay principled. I love that. And then just on a lighter note, Greg Denny says, let the snowflake crying commence. And that's what's happened. It has commenced. And that's what we're sharing with you guys.

And guys, these are all YouTube members. They hit the join button below and now they're part of the show. And we love doing the show with you guys. And then finally, my name is Jeff wrote in a super chat saying, in Trump's voice, only losers are found guilty. That's true. I prefer candidates who aren't convicted felons. All right, when we come back from the break, we're going to talk a little bit about what makes me feel like our democracy already has been dismantled. The ongoing war in Gaza, the American government's ongoing support for anything Israel wants to do,

and how American voters feel about how their views on the matter don't seem to matter. at all with the Biden administration. Come right back. Jayway 883 who became a member through t yt.com slash team. We love you guys. We appreciate it. Before we move on to our next story, I have to give Eric Levitt's some credit for his banger post on X. If they can do this to Donald Trump, they can do it to any American who tries to falsify business records so as to conceal the hush money payments they made to their porn star ex-mistresses during their presidential campaigns.

I mean, that is essentially what Trump supporters are saying as they try to instill paranoia and fear in the minds of ordinary Americans. Yeah, guys, did you falsify your business records when you had the affair with the porn start in order to cover it up the road? Of course not. It's absurd. Ordinary Americans have gone to prison for far less. Did you take home top secret? Yeah, that's also true. Did you take home top secret documents that you had access to? Did you do a fake electors scheme to overthrow the American government? Well, if you did, yeah, then they would come for you too. But if you didn't break the law like that, no. And guys, when they go to smear right wingers, we're crazy.

We defy any kind of label and we'll piss off our own side to tell you, yeah, but they're targeting Matt Gates or Cawthorn because they said X, Y, and Z. And maybe they did and maybe they didn't, but they're definitely getting politically targeted. Right. We're honest about that. And so, and we're honest about the fact that Merrick Garland dragged his heels for two and a half years. And that timing of that was a little bit political as well. Definitely. But there's no question as you see here with the conviction that Trump did do it. All right, more news. Well, we move on to some international news beginning with this. The Israeli military has stepped up its operations. Meanwhile, in southern Gaza, despite international criticism over mounting civilian casualties in the city of Rafa. Israel's national security advisor says the offensive in Gaza is expected to go on at least until the end of the year. Well, that's a disaster, especially when you consider the high civilian death toll in Gaza that Israel has already racked up. But Israel has also announced that it has taken full control of the entire Philadelphia corridor, something that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced weeks ago that he wanted to do.

And this runs along the Gaza, Egypt border, and it further threatens the flow of humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip, which has not been adequate since the beginning of this war. We're dealing with famine in the northern half of the Gaza Strip already, and it's been incredibly difficult to facilitate humanitarian aid deliveries in the Gaza Strip due to the destruction of infrastructure, due to the obstacles that Israel, has basically put in the way of deliveries of humanitarian aid, that's a complete and utter disaster. But let's talk a little more about what this Philadelphia corridor is, what this means. Let's take a look at this map, because if you're not familiar with the corridor, it's a term for the buffer zone that makes up the border between Gaza and Egypt. Gaza's only other land borders are with Israel, which means that Israel now controls the entirety of Gaza's borders.

Jank, what do you think about this? So guys, this is an epic disaster, not just for Rafa and for Gaza, which I'm going to explain in a second, but also potentially for Israel, because they just violated the Camp David Accords. So, and they killed two Egyptians while doing so. So we're gonna get to more details of that in a second. But how much is Netanyahu going to antagonize the entire world and get them to loathe Israel, Just thinking in his ultimate arrogance, it doesn't matter, Israel and America, who we have in our back pocket, which is true, can withstand anything. But why? Why are you antagonizing the whole world? Why are you antagonizing Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, and try to get Israel into the biggest war we've ever seen?

I think this is madness. An Israeli military spokesperson said they're cutting off the oxygen of Hamas. No, two-thirds of the aid has now been cut off into Gaza. They're cutting off the oxygen. for all the Palestinians in Gaza. It's a meta George Floyd moment. Israel is basically kneeling on the neck of the Palestinians, not for eight minutes, but for eight months. They're going to starve. Two-thirds of the aid is now cut off because they got this crossing.

Unfortunately, more devastating facts on this story. All right, so the point is Netanyahu is going to do what Netanyahu does, as long as the U.S. supports him. He took control of the Philadelphia Corridor, which was supposed to be, you know, another big issue that he wasn't supposed to do. But Biden's going to allow him to do whatever he wants. Okay, they're going to wipe off Palestinians from the Gaza area completely. That is what the plan is. I can't believe anyone denies it.

It's so obvious. It is so obvious, okay? And they're doing it with bombs that the United States is paying for and providing. Okay, that is what's happening right now. That's the whole story. Two Egyptian soldiers killed, okay, at that border, very likely by the IDF, even though we're not getting many details about it. Well, who else would do it?

So when this war expands to Iran, to Egypt, to all these other Middle Eastern countries, because we're dealing with a belligerent Israeli government, the question is to the Americans watching right now, are you comfortable with your money supporting this genocide? in Gaza, and yes, it's a genocide. It is as clear as day. Yeah, so guys, something that Anna said earlier is really important. So now Israel is saying not only are we not going to end this soon, we're going to do this destruction of Gaza until the end of the year,

seven more months. Already 80% of the Palestinians in Gaza are displaced. What do you want 100%? Already they needlessly for no reason at all. reason at all. I mean, they always have their BS propaganda. But it was after they had cleared the area, they destroyed every university in Gaza. Now they've taken the Philadelphia corridor, which was to be administered by the Palestinians and the Egyptian side. So they violated the peace treaty that has worked brilliantly with Egypt all these years. And now they're saying, we're

We're not going to stop, we're just going to keep squeezing and squeezing and killing and moving, killing and moving. And you saw what happened in Rafa a couple of days ago, the 45 people killed. But remember, everybody's focusing on the 45 people killed because there was video. Right afterwards, they killed another 21 people in exactly the same situation in another tent cam. But since there wasn't video, almost no one's talking about that. And almost all the time and overall in the numbers, not only is there well over 36,000

and dead, the great majority of them are women and children, innocent women and children. So all of this obviously crosses Joe Biden's red line. He said if you do a ground offensive and Rafa, we'll cut off the munitions. Now, have they? Of course not. There's no red line, guys. There's no red line. So let me just, I got to jump in on this, okay? I don't want to hear another word from Joe Biden or his, or his campaign about how Trump is a threat to democracy. Because how are you going to argue that we live in a democracy as Biden is, at this very moment, giving Democrats, two thirds of which want to ceasefire in Gaza, the middle finger, essentially telling them, listen, your votes, your opinions as the Democratic voting base,

doesn't matter to me at all. The only thing that matters to Biden is whether or not the APAC checks clear. So if you're wondering why you have a growing population of America, Americans were like, maybe democracy isn't really all that. Maybe we should think about other systems of government rather than a liberal democracy. Could it be that it's not just Trump that's trying to dismantle it? Could it be that the Democratic Party has also played a role in dismantling our democracy, in changing the minds of Americans in regard to valuing our democracy,

because it's clearly not working when you have the majority of your voters, demanding a ceasefire and as the Democratic president who's seeking reelection, you're giving them the middle finger and telling them to F off as you sent more of these bombs that have been funded by U.S. taxpayers to Israel. Yeah, let me back that up in a couple different ways. So he says he has a red line in Rafa. So now Anthony Blinkin, our secretary of state has been putting this humiliating position. If you remember Baghdad Bob from the Iraq war, he was Saddam Hussein spokesperson. And he would say, oh, we're defeating the Americans.

and the Americans have not been able to make it into Baghdad. And you would see American tanks behind him. He looked like the biggest idiot in the world. And now that's Anthony Blinken, our Secretary of State. In order to pretend that they didn't cross the red line, Blinken is out there saying there are no, there is no ground offensive in Rafa. But we see Israeli tanks in the middle of Rafa

with our own eyes. So Blinken is made to go out there and lie on behalf of Netanyahu like a moron, like a fool, like a pathetic, pathetic fool. pathetic fool. They're so embarrassing. So now remember Biden said, oh my God, I'm so angry about October 7th, we're going to do whatever we can to help Israel. Okay, that all makes sense. But then he added the lie about the headless babies. Okay, so that turned out to be a lie disproven by Israeli press as well as US press. So, but in the Rafa attack, there actually was a headless child. And a lot of you have probably seen it already online, right? And it's confirmed by the

press. Horrific. It's one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life. And Biden looks at And then goes, doesn't cross my red line because Palestinian lives don't, doesn't mean anything to him. He thinks it's worthless. He had the State Department put out this embarrassing report alleging that Israel has not committed war crimes, thus or has not basically prevented humanitarian aid from entering the Gaza Strip. So Biden could have an excuse for continuing to send weaponry To Israel. And another State Department official resigned just now saying, we're just lying on behalf of Israel.

Of course they've violated this restriction. It's not even close, they're forcing us to lie for a foreign government. It's insanity. So now let's go to the elections. Guys, this for us, policy and politics are very different. So is Donald Trump bad on this? Yeah, he's awful on this. He said that he would not only arrest anyone protesting Israel, but he would do.

deport them. He would deport American citizens to where? It doesn't matter. He says, I will serve Israel better than Joe Biden. I will serve the right wing of Israel, Netanyahu, and these neo-con war mongers better than Joe Biden. He says he'll put the peace protesters, peace protests, he'll set him back 25 to 30 years. So yeah, I get it. Trump's a monster. Yeah, I get it. Trump might even be worse than Biden on this. But that doesn't excuse what Biden is doing. You can't say, oh, not only did I green light a genocide, I gave $20 billion of your money to continue this genocide, but by, but Trump is worse. No, Biden is maximum evil on this. Maximum. Look, guys, they didn't, we didn't give them the $20 billion at the beginning of the war,

which would have been somewhat understandable after October 7th. We gave them the money just a couple of weeks ago after we've seen all of the horrors and the stories and the starvation and all of these 36,000 dead and the U.S. Congress, the overwhelming majority of them, loaded up with $100 million of APAC money. That's a fact. Joe Biden loaded up with $11.2 million of APAC money throughout his career, said, I see no evil, I hear no evil. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to cash that check from APAC and I'm going to serve those lobbyists. Now they They serve lobbyists when it comes to drug companies, oil companies, defense contractors, etc. What APAC is doing is they're kind of giving away the game, that the lobbyists control

our entire government, which goes back to Anna's point. It's not that the Republicans are any better guys, but a lot of Americans are beginning to ask what democracy, both the corporate Republicans and the corporate Democrats will do anything the lobbyists pay them for, whether it's on Israel or any other issue. So what democracy are we protecting? All this is is just legalized bribery and the rich and the powerful control. American government about 100%. What democracy?

I wanna be clear about something. Donald Trump says a lot of stupid things, okay? His rhetoric is incredibly moronic and stupid. But I believe that Donald Trump and Joe Biden are exactly the same when it comes to their actions in regard to Israel. I wanna be clear about that. Yeah. There's no difference.

Okay, I don't want to hear anything about how, oh, Trump would be so much worse, Trump would be so much worse. How much worse can you get from Biden on this issue? I mean, Biden just said basically through our money, I don't think Israel has killed enough Palestinians. I want to send them $20 billion, $17 billion directly. He's already sent them $3 billion worth of weapons. He keeps sending them weapons, kill more Palestinians, kill more Palestinians, kill more Palestinians.

And then goes, Trump could be worse. Wow, what a great case you're making. So look, finally, Joe Biden has cost himself about 25 to 30 points among young voters. Excellent. Good job, Biden. Young voters that he desperately needs to win the election. So he's lost Muslim and Arab votes. They're a smaller group, but that group could make a giant difference in places like Michigan.

And yes, Minnesota, you think Minnesota is guaranteed? So does guaranteed. I don't think it's guaranteed a lot at all. Okay. And then, but a much larger group of young voters. But then guys, there's a third group that nobody talks about. Independence who look at Biden going, oh, well, I gave strong words to Naniel. I told him not to do this. I have a red line. And then he comes out the next day and he's like, I'm so sorry Danio. I didn't mean to criticize you. Here's 3 billion. Here's 17 billion. Here's all the money in the world. America's shut up and give that money. Hey, everybody, go arrest anyone criticizing Israel.

a protest of Israel? Has Joe Biden spoken out? He asked it? No. He said that the protesters should be arrested. So yeah, Trump threatens to arrest and deport the protesters, but that's hypothetical. And I got no interest in Trump. I don't want to hear about how Trump is better. He constantly promises that he would be worse. But if you're Joe Biden and the arrest happened in your watch, and they passed a bill in the House saying it will be illegal for Americans to criticize Israel. This is all under Joe Biden. So the independence, look at that and go, so this guy is both pathetic and corrupt, can be pushed around by any foreign leader and is obviously serving his, the lobbyists and is not serving America.

Because the overwhelming majority of his own voters say, please stop, for God's sake, please stop. And Biden goes, no, I will not stop. I don't care about the headless babies. I don't care about the people burned alive. I don't care that there's a stadium full of women and children that have been massacred. I don't care that Netanyahu's trying to start a giant war. We're going to have to fight on their behalf. I don't care about anything, as long as the check clears. So I've got no interest in Joe Biden.

You can decide who to vote for. I haven't made up my mind on who to vote for. They're both monsters. I just don't want to hear any propaganda about how Joe Biden is such a wonderful, sweet, empathetic man, and he cares so much. No, he doesn't care about human lives at all. Last thing, I did town, I do town halls on Wednesday for our viewers. It's Operation Hope, where we try to bring hope into the world because of all this darkness.

And an African American woman said something really powerful than town hall last night. She said, if Biden treats them like this, like that the Palestinian lives aren't worth anything. Do I think that he thinks my life is worth anything? I don't think so. She doesn't care about any of our lives. American doctors trapped in Gaza couldn't be. be bothered to do a damn thing about it and had one of his State Department cronies do oppressor and talk about how complicated it is to get Americans out of Gaza.

Because our ally is preventing us from getting them out. Okay, give me the goddamn $20 billion back. You're not letting our citizens out. Give me the $20 billion back. I'll never vote for Biden. I'll never vote for him. He disgusts me. And if you, if you get offended by that, be offended.

I don't care. How am I gonna vote for this guy who's allowing the slaughter of innocent people, including literal babies in Gaza. So anyway, let's take a break. We'll be right back.