The Young Turks - Trump Polls, Medicare & Bank of America Immigration Scandal

Episode Date: September 1, 2018

A portion of our Young Turks Main Show from August 31, 2018. For more go to http://tyt.com/GETACCESS. Trump says Dems will pay for socialism with Medicare; BofA questioning customers’ legal status; ...Trump disapproval rating at 60% Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Oh, I didn't see you come in. Drop it. So, thanks to Jenk, you're not being here. We have a panel that's even more powerful than usual. He's not here to say anything about it, so I can say pretty much whatever I want.
Starting point is 00:00:42 I'm Johnny DeRola. Mark Thompson is back in studio. When Daddy's Away, you really get mouthy, I've noticed. Yeah, when Daddy's Away, we say things will someday forget. It's like the Muppet babies up in here, yeah? Exactly. At least as funny as the Muppet Babies, we have two stand-ups in studio, Ben Glebe. for the first time with me at the very least.
Starting point is 00:01:00 First time with you, second time on the show. Then good to have you back. And Francesca Fierintini is here as well. Hi. Always good to have you here. After co-hosting the damage report this morning with me. Indeed. Here on the main show.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Took a power nap of five hours. In the middle. Everything is powerful around here. Everything's powerful. Well, you know, she's flown down from San Francisco, so she's jet lagged and everything. But now she's feeling better. The time zones are crazy on the West Coast. They really mess with you.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Yeah. So we've got a lot to talk about today. Obviously, we're going to be talking about Medicare Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, who's coming for it? Some fictional villains, some real villains. We've got both for you. We've got fictional villains now as well? There are some, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Fictional villains being pushed by real villains, actually. After that, we're going to have a little talk about Alexandria Accio-Cortez, because there have been some attacks against her recently that appear a little bit hypocritical, considering some political context that we will, of course, provide. And then later on the show, we've got two awesome stories for you. One is a Republican politician, being very honest and forthcoming about what she actually believes about those protesting in the NFL. And then also, the Bank of America has decided that, you know what, they want to get in
Starting point is 00:02:12 on a little bit of that border action and pretend that some people just aren't citizens even if they are. So we'll be talking about all of that over the course of this hour. Very excited for it. Hot border action. So much. So much, so hot, yes. And distressing.
Starting point is 00:02:25 But we're going to be starting off with a little bit of Donald Trump. Trump's speeches are full of moments that make you just stop and think a little bit about what he might mean. But today we've got one that stands out, even for him. It has to do with Medicare. Let's listen. And they want to raid Medicare to pay for socialism. Somehow I don't see Indiana being the next.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Venezuela. I just don't see it. I agree with him. I don't see it either, actually. The guy in the green in the back is like, wait a minute. Go with it. Peter, you drove all this way to a rally. You said you were going to go.
Starting point is 00:03:12 But you know this makes no sense. Yeah, I honestly wonder if they are sweetening the crowd response sounds on these rallies, because the shot of the people behind Trump, he's barely ever getting. more than 10% of people actually laughing at these jokes. Everybody else is like, oh, I don't, I wanted to come, but I don't know if I can get on board with anything he's saying. He was probably tackled in the next, in like five minutes. I mean, honestly, we talked about this earlier this morning on John's show, The Damage Report,
Starting point is 00:03:43 but the idea that like raiding Medicare to pay for socialism is like saying, you know, he wants, they just want to raid the fridge to make your dinner. Women, you're just right in the fridge, making the dinner, where'd the food go? Huh? Like, first of all, that sounds amazing and I'm hungry now. Yeah. Sorry. It was puzzling, though.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Explain to me what, you know, oftentimes you can really just work yourself up in knots trying to figure out what Trump was actually speaking about. But here I really was a little confused. I mean, it struck me as something, sort of the leading edge of a talking point that we're going to hear more and more. But otherwise, I can't decode this. Well, I think that you're sort of right. I think, I don't know if it's the leading edge of a talking point, but certainly of a narrative
Starting point is 00:04:32 in that because we have these very popular up-and-coming, in some cases, DSA-backed candidates, socialism as a term, is out there. And unfortunately, as with most other terms and political terms, in America, we don't know what they mean. We don't know history, we don't know geography, we don't know political science, we don't No psychology. I could go on. But we don't understand those things. And so Donald Trump can say effectively whatever he wants about socialism. The only information that most of the people in the crowd have is that they know that some socialist countries 40 or 50 years ago that they're familiar
Starting point is 00:05:09 with were failures. And they might see some bad news about Venezuela in the news, which is of course why he referenced it there. And by the way, that's the only information that Trump has also. Exactly. If you ask Donald Trump to define socialism, what do you think he would say? How specific of a definition could you get? Ironically because socialized medicine is part of democratic socialism, the likes of which I think a lot of candidates are running on and that Bernie Sanders inspired the country on, which is more of a Scandinavian Democratic socialism. If you strip all that away, the socialism that's left, which is like big statues and
Starting point is 00:05:45 military parades, like all that stuff is stuff Trump would love. He would actually want to pay for that. Well, I mean, to be fair, that's socialism is not bad, right? It's socialism, that's a fascism and that usually those statues go up under autocrats and all this sort of thing. But it's a fair point that he's clueless as to what socialism actually is. And even, you know, communism and socialism are thrown around as awful terms. And you can say, well, they're awful in their purest forms, but there are aspects of socialism that are being applied with subsidies. to major corporations in this country.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And we do, we have socialism here, but it's for the rich in large measure. So any real substantive conversation associated with socialism, you know, has to include that. Or just recently with farmers, because of Trump's tariffs, he decides to just redistribute money to help make up for his own platforms. Here's how I think he would define socialism at a rally just to get people riled up. He'd say, socialism, they're going to take your money, they're going to take your hard-earned money, and they're going to give it to the elites.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It's called upward reverse socialism, and it's very dangerous. It's like a trickle up. It's a spilling upwards. It's like the mystery spot. Yeah, it was like if I take this coffee and it was just float into the air towards the elites. And America doesn't want that. And that's a good argument. It's a solid, reasoned argument, if you're insane.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It gets you applaud. Look, when you look at these speeches, and you should always keep this in mind, I think. When we look at these Trump speeches, we should remember, especially when coming to decoding them. He speaks in applause lines, you know what I mean? He's looking for cheers. So even that line that kind of doesn't make any sense, you don't want Indiana to become the next Venezuela, do you? It's sort of like, no, I know, you get, he gets the response.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And that sort of congregation responding to him all the time leads him to say these things that are, frankly, pretty absurdist, but they do get a reaction. Right, he realizes that the first half of his sentence, somewhere in his brain doesn't make full sense, so he just goes for a joke in the back half. He's literally like, they're going to raid Medicare for socialism and no. Nobody wants Lex Luthor to win. And everybody's like, you're right, we don't. I also think the fact that we only have Venezuela to point to as this sort of failed state
Starting point is 00:07:59 is indicative of just how afraid the right is for socialist ideas catching on. I think Venezuela and the United States couldn't be farther in terms of their similarities. They are so different from one another. Venezuela is not the United States. They do not have the amount of money that we have. They are not a hegemon. They are, you know, they, and actually, and of course, yes, the economy is so screwed there. People are, you know, eating, digging in trash.
Starting point is 00:08:26 But last I checked, people are also digging in trash down in downtown L.A. So we don't ever talk about the failures of capitalism. We only talk about the failures of socialism. And we say one to one, the U.S. is Venezuela. And it's going to be the exact same. And we're going to get, I hope we get a Caribbean coast, if that's the case. I'm glad that you brought that up because they have this one example of socialism failing. And I think it's not a hypothetical, we can come up with an example of capitalism leaving millions of people behind of, you know, what if you had a system that for decades, wages were entirely stagnant? And in fact, you just lost out year after year due to inflation. What if you had a system of health care where tens of millions of Americans don't end up with any health insurance? What if you had that? And then everybody gets scared in the crowd. And then they look around. They realize they're living in that country right now. That's an example that you can provide. And here's one of the bad things for Donald Trump. So he says to the audience,
Starting point is 00:09:17 Socialism is really bad and they boo. They do boo for now because for a very long time, the only place that they've heard about socialism or socialist policies is on Fox News, delivered with the keen historical insight of people like Laura Ingram and Tucker Carlson. And there's been no counter argument up until now. But unfortunately, they screwed up because they allowed people like Alexandria Ocasio-Gortez to get elected, people who go on shows like Stephen Colbert in The Daily Show and talk about economic dignity and talk about being able to live a life in accordance with, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:47 fundamental human dignity at the end of the day. Overrated, it's overrated, honestly. Dignity, who needs dignity? I feel like a lot of times it's nice to go through life like not being dignified, keeps you on your toes. Totally. It's just a good, I'm just presenting the other side. I feel like it's good to cover both.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Both. Dignity's overrated, you think, Ben? Yes, it's overrated. Okay. I mean, if you can get it, sure, it's nice to work if you can get it. But I'm just saying, is it necessary to live in America? Maybe not. Not according to Trump, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I think it's important to be able just to push whatever program you want. The scariest part about it is that we just lack any sort of, not only context, but just any sort of measure between what could happen and what will happen. You mention one word and it's as though we're going to overnight become something. You're not going to become a socialist country because you embrace certain aspects, certain positive aspects of socialist ideas. It doesn't mean tomorrow America is going to be distributing everybody's wealth equally across the land. That's not what it's going to be. But the fact that we don't have any, like you said, any concept of what these terms even mean, it makes you be able to say something like they're going to raid Medicare,
Starting point is 00:10:52 which is one of our closer to socialist programs, to pay for socialism, and people root on that thought. It's just a nonsensical discord in your brain that if we can't even have terms and we know what they mean, there's just no way to have an intelligence. Well, this term has been captured for propaganda, right? Socialism, communism. These are terms they can use, and it's used in a propagandist's way. So that's why they use socialism.
Starting point is 00:11:18 They've weaponized socialism, even though, as we've said, socialism is used to bailout Wall Street. That's a form of socialism, right? And for the price supports, as you say, for those farmers who are suffering from the trade policy. So socialism is there in different ways. We don't call it socialism. We call it bailouts or whatever. But there are aspects of this socialism already very, very, very. well, a part of this economy.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yeah, it's true. I mean, if corporations are now people, I wish we were able to just shame them, like call them welfare queens, you know, like they've demonized, you know, African Americans and people on welfare or anyone, not just African Americans, all people on welfare. But, like, we never hear of that. We need to shame corporations as people. You're lazy, bums, you know, pay your workers fairly.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Give them health care. I don't know how people yell at the homeless. I'm just trying. You clearly have not berated the homeless enough. No, no, I got to work on that. I'm not sure, but I believe that Bernie Sanders put together a video of CEOs where he was using terms like that in regard to them, those who had gotten large amounts. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I don't know. I'm sure. Maybe somebody can find it and tweet us about that. But I do want to transition to a related topic. Donald Trump is attempting to convince you that socialists are coming to raid Medicare to pay for the apocalypse or whatever. But the funny thing is, there are actually people talking about cutting. Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security, and they're not even hiding it.
Starting point is 00:12:46 It's not like you have to sort of root through all these documents, file Freedom of Information Act requests. They're just advertising it with headlines like this. So House GOP plan would cut Medicare, Medicaid, to balance, budget. You're not going to see the dates on these, but these span actually more than six months. This next one. But look at the tulips. On the plus side, tulips.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Here's some opinion columnists saying they should scale back Medicare and Social Security. Obviously, getting very excited about this. Top Republicans are already talking about cutting Medicare and Social Security next. This is after the, you know, ACA and tax battles. Paul Ryan makes it official. Republicans are coming after Medicare next. And by the way, if you have the misfortune to have been paying attention to Paul Ryan through the course of his life, those first words were no more entitlement.
Starting point is 00:13:34 This has been his mission. The only reason he was literally sucking on a teat. I mean, how ironic is that? Thank you. So good. Thank you so much. Put that away. That's a bailout.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah, so look, that is why he is in government. He was born, he read and ran, and then he came for the social safety net. And that's the story for most Republicans in office right now. But he worked at McDonald's, John, for a summer. Did he really? Like a year, maybe. No, no, that's the one. The reason people need Medicare when they get older.
Starting point is 00:14:07 It's true. I mean, he just, he set them up. It's a real, that's a real Ponzi scheme right there. Just make them eat unhealthy fast food and then yank the health care away when they get old and sick. Not cool. And for Medicaid, try to gut that program, these people literally, all they can afford to eat is McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And then you're going to say, we're going to eat food is going to kill you. And we're not going to take care of you. It's a double whammy. We're slamming. But at least we're not going to be coming at you with socialism. And this is why Paul Ryan has been such an effing coward for this entire administration. And every time Speaker of the House is looked to, to stand up for his party to say that no, we don't side with white supremacy and we don't think that the neo-Nazis marching on the street were good people or that some were good people, he's totally silent because this is what he wants. He wants to actually cut so-called entitlements, which I think we need to change the name for because entitlement is really being able to own more than one yacht.
Starting point is 00:15:05 But, yeah, I mean, I don't know what crawled up Paul Ryan's butt and died so many years ago, whether it was the tucking on the teed of his mom. But, like, I feel like 20 years ago, 30 years ago, like a homeless guy called him like, hey, white boy, you got a quarter and he was like, no. And then, like, that was it. It was done. It was like Paul Ryan turned. As John says, though, you know, it's the Ann Rand thing.
Starting point is 00:15:31 He really, he bought it, hook, line, and sinker, and he's just been pursuing it. and that's his jihad, and he's been waiting for it. And now he can begin it. And I think, I think you're very much right. You know, he's so quiet all through this administration thus far, and all of a sudden he steps forward when it comes to these programs. But there's some, the devil may be in the details here, because I don't know that they're going to be able to get away with this. But you really think so? I think, you think in advance of the midterms or at all? Well, first of all, the timing to announce in an advance, the midterm seems odd to me. I mean, Is it, you see it as a political win?
Starting point is 00:16:06 I mean, I don't. I don't see it. Why would you advertise it? I mean, politics is obviously about more than one thing. In terms of getting votes, I don't think it's a win. But in terms of getting donations from corporate donors, I think it could very much be a win. Right. And that's the way he's picking and choosing where he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:16:21 He's not giving big policy speeches. He's saying it on like fringe conservative radio shows and that's where he's plugging it in. But I think that we just have to be able to, again, have broader conversations and broader opinions about the spectrum. of what can make success in this country and realize that it's always going to be a combination of factors. So, like, even mentioning Ayn Rand, like, I love Ayn Rand. I like her general way of looking at the world. I disagree with her when it goes all the way to saying, because people should have their
Starting point is 00:16:49 sense of self come from within and should build themselves up from their own bootstraps, you should never help people. That's where I think she gets too extreme. You can still help people when they just can't bring themselves up, when they need the help. So you can still satisfy Paul Ryan or a conservative philosophy of, let's make. sure people have every ability to take care of themselves, only help them when they need it. Make sure there are certain common sense checks so they're not abusing the system, and
Starting point is 00:17:12 just please everybody with it, find a way to make the entire country happy while also having just a safety net there. At a circus, you have a net, a safety net, underperformers just in case they fall to their death. This is definitely a circus, so we do need a net. But I think there's something disingenuous to me. A little sweaty, I apologize. Oh yeah, no, no worries here. There's something.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Thank you. We gotta take a break. You offered. There's something disingenuous to me though about the whole like, hey, it's okay to like, you know, I mean, I haven't read Ayn Rand, but I think that the ideology of free market thinking and just like, I think total libertarian like thinking is actually disingenuous because the people who are supporting Paul Ryan and these powerful Republicans are big right-wing think tanks. They are private foundations, the Bradley Foundation, the Koch brothers, and the Americans for
Starting point is 00:18:06 Prosperity, and so many other dark money groups and think tanks in 501c-4s or whatever they're going as now. And all they want is tax breaks. That's all they want. They don't want to actually pay their workers' fair wages. They don't want them to have anything when they retire. But they want, again, all the socialism for them. Don't want to end subsidies for oil companies.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Don't want to end subsidies for farm workers. Whenever it suits big business, they're all fine for it. And that's sort of what I meant with, like, an Ayn Rand objectiveist philosophy. I think it actually is a really good empowering philosophy on an individual basis. On individual basis, you should be able to realize that, like, your self-worth comes from yourself. But I think when you take it to governmental policy, it doesn't make sense because there is no such, there's no system that could work in a purely free market capitalist system.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I've read quite a bit of And Rand. My principal problem with her is that I think she's genuinely a bad writer who needs to learn to cut 30% out of every. No, Jesus Christ. I'm not surprised you got through one of the books. No, I've read all the big ones, including the more philosophical ones, like the virtue of selfishness and things like that. She's got a book called The Virtue of Selfishness? Yes. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Yes. I mean, obviously, you have to read it to understand what she's getting at there. Sure. My issue with, in terms of like, so you mentioned, you know, you have to have checks, obviously. And you do. And we do. So that's my issue is that the reason that Republicans push things like voter fraud and the needed drug test people on welfare is. is not because in either of those cases, we have a genuine problem, but to cause people
Starting point is 00:19:34 to distrust massive programs, regardless of what is actually going on. And they're very successful at that. And again, as with what we were talking about earlier, with socialism, there's no counter argument. There's no, you're not constantly having Democrats go on MSNBC and say, hey, did you know that people on welfare don't actually use drugs at higher rates than people that aren't on welfare? I don't hear that every night. I don't hear them saying, hey, did you know that you're more likely to be struck by
Starting point is 00:19:57 lightning while being bitten by a shark, then actually commit voter fraud in this country? I don't hear that, because it's kind of a ridiculous metaphor. But you get what I'm saying. It actually happened to me one time on the way to the polls, so that was a really weird day. It's unlikely. That's the hat trick, yeah. Of course, you're right. And I feel as though what they've done is they've begun this propaganda war, I'm talking
Starting point is 00:20:17 about the right, and they got through the huge tax cut. I mean, that was almost done under cover of night. It was done so quickly, I mean, the ink was not even literally dry on the page. And now this next, I think these are the early drum beats of what they're really going to try to do. And they must really be committed to it because I'm just astounded by this timing. I mean, again, I don't think it's going to be received well by voters. Okay, so donors will receive it well. But I think this vote becomes critical, and they can't afford to lose a lot of votes in some of these places.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yeah, and it's just, I mean, the reason that we did first, the Trump thing, the Dems are coming for Medicare, and then all of these Republicans, every influential Republican is pushing for this. They might not be pushing hard enough to get it done for the midterms, but that's clearly their goal, is at some point, the 25% to 36% of the country that is still strong Trump supporters, they have to, like, double things shouldn't work universally? Like, if you hear, isn't it terrible how they're coming for your Medicare and then we're coming for your Medicare? At some point, shouldn't that cause you to question this person? I understand, you know, you're in that culture, whatever, and you like him. And I get why you like him. He speaks to white identity and all of that.
Starting point is 00:21:25 But in terms of things like Medicare, Medicaid, these very fundamental programs that despite the way Republicans like to pitch them as being something that only black and brown people use, we know predominantly they're going to people like in the background of his crowds, they should realize that the real villain coming for those are the Republican politicians that they've been taught to support. That's the point. I wonder if this will really get done for that reason, because these guys are all cashing those checks, the very checks that they're saying, you're not going to be getting. Exactly. Older white people are the ones on Medicare in large numbers. But just like the ACA and how that was folded into the tax cuts, like they, I disagree whoever said that, like, they're going to roll it out. I don't know, I think this whole thing is like, they're not going to roll this out. You think it'll be more hidden? It'll be absolutely hidden. I don't think it's going to be like, this is not like, hey, you're going to get $200 back in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Like, if not, that doesn't, there's nothing beneficial. So I think they're going to keep it under wraps. And then again, and this is why I think racial solidarity and anti-racism is so important, is that it's just easy to blame black and brown people like John, you were saying, and divide us and move into tribalism. And back to the sort of like socialist conversation, I do think we are looking at a socialism or barbarism moment. Either we go into our fiefdoms and our tribes and blame others for our problems and are afraid
Starting point is 00:22:53 of one another and are afraid of voter fraud and are afraid of, you know, undocumented immigrants killing citizens at unmas and MS-13 and Antifa. Or we actually take care of people's needs and see how that works out. But like this is all, I mean, 100%, but I think, again, you're right, with the push towards increased bifurcated tribalism where we keep just trying to put each other at each other's throats is such the poison. It's the most classic poison that politicians. use to try to just keep all the power and money for themselves. And it's so frightening that
Starting point is 00:23:27 people haven't caught on to this simple trick yet. Right? I mean, not only are they always dividing us as liberal and conservative, as Democrat, Republican, even red and blue, they color coat us. That's the exact colors of bloods and crips. I mean, they've created it to put us at each other's throats. Like, maybe we'd have a more chill political discourse if we rebranded the parties like to peach and lime green or something. Maybe it would calm things down. I want to be peach. You want to be peach? I'll do lime green and we can be friends. You already. Okay, you see what happens?
Starting point is 00:23:55 I like that map more, that's for sure. I think one of them used to be green, by the way. Really? Yeah, at some point. No, no, no, someone wrote an article where it was when it was standardized, but before that it was actually more varied. But that's, so aside from the obvious point that you pointed out, that it's insane that you can at the same time at one side of your mouth say, Democrats are coming
Starting point is 00:24:13 through Medicare and then saying we're actually going to take your Medicare, just long as the Democrats don't do it. Right. The problem is when you allow, like you were saying, to demonize programs. and the people who are recipients of it, it just so clouds the actual issue. It takes you into a small instance of abuse of a program and makes it as though that's the entire problem with the system. And so if you can just keep the issue about, look, we're all Americans.
Starting point is 00:24:38 We all have one country, one life, one happiness that we're trying to achieve for ourselves, for our families, for our communities, and you say, how do we get there? We have programs we've all agreed on that are the law of the land. How can we reform them in common sense ways to get rid of abuse? but still help people. How can we make sure the thing that you want, the thing you're cheering not to get rid of, doesn't get taken care of.
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Starting point is 00:26:24 and get ready to get informed, angered, and entertained all at the same time. Evil doers that were trying to fight. There's not even a target to take on. Last word on this Medicare thing, at least for me, would be I think that it's going to be very, very hard to... You know, Medicare was created largely because people are 65, years of age and older couldn't get insurance. I mean, because insurance companies didn't want
Starting point is 00:26:55 to insure older people who were more prone to illness. You're going to have that same problem. That's not going away. So again, a lot of those people at that rally fall into that category. And I just don't know. And it's masquerading as, well, we want to bring back to free market so that now you can shop for your own insurance company. You're going to do better. I mean, that's what they're talking about already. And the truth is, we played that tune already. And nobody could dance to it. I mean, in other words, we couldn't find insurance companies that would insure us unless the fees were exorbitant. And it never went away, like, as if the Affordable Care Act was anywhere near socialized medicine. It was...
Starting point is 00:27:35 No, that was an insurance company grab. It was just an option. And then again, also it shows how we can't ever think just one step beyond. We can't use our brains one step beyond what's just specifically spoken by a politician to us. So the way they also tried to push through their plan to gut our entitlement programs are to say, well, we won't touch current recipients. And then we think, oh, we have no ability to look forward in this country. And so we think people that are on are like, okay, I'm safe. I can support it then.
Starting point is 00:28:02 But we literally don't think, but I'm going to be old soon too. If it's so important to them, maybe I'm going to need that when I get older. But millennials just live on avocado toast and like pictures of corgis. Strong point. It's a strong point. It's a healthy diet. Yeah, that selfie will fuel your soul a little bit. The flash in a selfie, I get regenerized.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Regenerized? I think that's a word. Thank you. It'll work for Sarah Palin. So if the control room, could you get ready with video for, because I have one other point I want to make. Donald Trump wants to convince you that the Dems are coming for Medicare. And with the Dem party of 10 years ago, perhaps they would.
Starting point is 00:28:39 But things are changing now, and the Republicans are the ones talking about coming after Medicare. But how are they going to actually try to sell the American? American people in that? How are they going to message about the need to cut these programs that are incredibly popular? Well, I don't know for sure, and there are a number of politicians who are going to do it, but we do have some indications. So if we can play video four, you're going to see Marco Rubio talking about this. The argument would be we can't cut taxes because it will drive up the deficit. That assumes that somehow we can fix the deficit through higher taxes, and we can. But you also have to bring
Starting point is 00:29:10 spending under control, and not discretionary spending. That isn't the driver of our debt. The driver of our debt is the structure of Social Security and Medicare, and if we did that, in combination with growth, you can begin to bring the trajectory of the debt to a responsible and acceptable level. That is the only way forward. So I view tax reform as the economic growth component of it. Yeah, except that it's not. So they always say that, and we've noticed that since that tax bill has passed, at this almost
Starting point is 00:29:37 the same rate that its popularity has gone down, the cost estimates of how much it's going end up costing us have continually went up. So a bill that was at first going to cost us a trillion dollars went to 1.3 to 1.5 to 1.8. The last time I saw it, and I honestly haven't checked the numbers in at least a month or two. And what you saw right there is something that I warned about before the 2016 election, which is if we allow them to take over the White House, the Senate in the House, and they pass their big tax cut bill, we are not only screwed in that they get the tax cuts that they want so badly, but we're screwed foundationally on virtually every other possible issue because the deficits and debt caused by their tax cut bills will be used to justify
Starting point is 00:30:16 the cutting of virtually every program imaginable. And that does not just stop at, you know, little rinky-dink programs that cost $20 million here, $5 billion there. It's also Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. They have now taken the rug out from under us, and although there are other progressive ways to balance all of this out while actually accomplishing for the American people what they desire, they are instead going to say, what can we do? But he could have predicted that if you suddenly don't take in trillions of dollars, the government
Starting point is 00:30:44 will lack trillions of dollars. So we have to cut food stamps. We have to take away all the aid to the Palestinians that they're going to be talking about in the second hour. We have to cut Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, all of those. But not the unnecessary and unasked for military budget increase. Can you cut his mic? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I'm sorry. I'm not saying. I never said it. I never said it. That is what they say. Rubio's comments exactly are completely wrong, from his opening utterance, they were wrong. So the idea somehow that if you cut taxes, what was you say? If you raise taxes, then you could begin to address the debt.
Starting point is 00:31:19 That assumes, this is what Rubio said, that there's some price to, some effect on the debt from tax cuts. There is an effect on the debt from tax cuts. You just hear, John, detail it. Those huge tax cuts, those huge, that corporate tax relief and the richest people in America getting a break, that tax relief is going to cost us close to $2 trillion. It works that way, but somehow it doesn't work the other way around. The other way around. It's insanity.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I mean, really, in other words, I just couldn't even follow his logic there. No, it's true. But I also think, and listen, you look at like how much of your tax dollar goes to what in the government, right? And about 30, roughly 30%, a little bit more or less, depending on, you know, like how many wars are fighting, goes to the military industrial complex, current and past. And then a huge amount of our dollar tax dollars do go to Social Security and Medicare and these kinds of programs.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And so from this like very like, you know, economic 101, just look at a graph, like, oh my God, like Social Security is huge. Okay, what are we not then factoring in? What do people gain when they are insured as elderly people? When they are insured as poor people, right? When they are able to have their medical costs taking care of. We are saving, and this is how we've done the numbers, the Koch brothers have done the numbers for us, thank you, that actually having an expansion of Medicare will save the American people.
Starting point is 00:32:50 But you can't see that. You don't see healthy people. You only see the crazy person or the person who's like not well, right? You only see when someone has a problem or when there is violence in a community. When everything's chill, it's like, huh, I wonder what were the building blocks of a nation that created a safe community, you know? It wasn't armed guards, you know, it was people having an education and being able to, you know, go to the doctor when they need to.
Starting point is 00:33:13 So, and having a job. Right. And these are the things you can't quantify of like, oh, here, how can I show you that this stable middle class family, like, is being productive? There's no measurement because they're chilling, you know what I'm saying? Right. You can't quantify that. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Like what you were saying, it's very hard to go on. and just talk about how things are working. That's not a news story. So you can only, you have to go on there and say things aren't working. But at the same time, it's, again, this cognitive dissonance that keeps being created. Like, take even the classic example of Sarah Palin threatening old people with death panels, if Obamacare went past, right? Saying, oh, if you have government, health care, health care for all,
Starting point is 00:33:55 they're going to have to all of a sudden then decide who gets what medicines. But then people don't think, again, one step further and say, but if you gut the programs entirely, everybody's going to be on these death panels because there's not going to be any, effectively, there's not going to be any health care to be given. They exist already. You create a problem here and then don't realize you're gutting the entire thing here and then it just falls under it. It's kind of a weird gopher world. There's no structure on it.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And the last thing I would say is, look, their endgame, and I'm talking about the GOP end game across the board, is to privatize everything. So anything that works in favor of private enterprise they're all for. And they're going to tell you that it's more cost effective, but it's just simply not. Insurance money is going to be huge money, and they're going to grab it from us once they get rid of these programs. And we've seen what private enterprise does, that you can't trust them on the environment. You can't trust them on keeping prices down for aspirin in a hospital. But that's the end game to privatize everything.
Starting point is 00:34:52 When is Trump going to make Martin Screlli his head of the FDA? Right, exactly. Don't say that. If you watches this video, we're screwed. Okay, we do have to take our first break, though. When we come back, the attacks are still flying fast at Alexandria Acacia Cortez. But we've also noticed who isn't being attacked for some similar things. So we're going to show you some videos, a few quotes.
Starting point is 00:35:14 We've, as the kids said, we've brought the receipts after this. Welcome back to the Friday Power Panel, everyone. You've sent in some super chats that I'd like to read. First one from Star 743, who said, hey John, great job on your RT appearance with Larry King. Lit power panel. Thank you. Yeah, it was always good to see Larry King. Oh, I want to hear about that maybe later or another time.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I will. I will. It sounds like a date. As most dates are, we're going to talk about Larry King. It's a dream man, really? It's a dream. Arbuckle 1, 2, 3 says Republicans are using the term socialism to attack Justice Democrats with the same intellectual dishonesty they use when they say evolution is just a theory.
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Starting point is 00:36:50 It's not irrelevant, but yes, it's not the only thing that you need to consider. Right, economic theories are nothing to do with whether you're a democratic nation or not. Yes. Let's see. I am socks as Trump has declared war on the dictionary in English language. picking up from where others have declared wars on info. And Gabby Marita says... Strong words from somebody named I Am Sox, by the way. He's declared war in the English language? You think you're socks.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Sox are smart. At least I Amsock knew that he was declaring war. Trump never even knew that he was declaring. I wouldn't admit it anyway. And Gabby and Marita says, Trump is saying the left wants to raid Medicare to spread socialism, as opposed to raiding Medicare to spread up trickling tax cuts, benefiting people with more yachts than I'm pretty sure John owns shoes.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Well, that's where you're wrong. I actually own more shoes than you would think. And I'm in favor of Medicare for yachts because sometimes someone like lets a Betsy DeVos yacht go and it gets butt banged up. Who's gonna doctor it up? I like yacht bandages. Right. Because otherwise yachts go into emergency rooms.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yacht dock. Yeah, yachts. Yacht dot. That's an app. That's a great yacht. Not a lot of people have downloaded that app. No. But it does quite well.
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Starting point is 00:38:29 Now, before we jump back into our topics, Ben, you were involved in an incident that went viral. We want to show people this during one of your stand-up routines. We want to show a little bit of that video for everyone. Ladies, what is with the duck lips? Who has ever seen a woman and been like, yeah, she's hot, but if you want she could look more like a duck. I've always wanted to make love to a duck, present. It's like we love being people, but mm. If we could also be ducks
Starting point is 00:39:00 They'd Why I'd elected a president who's orange Would they toss the duck hair On top of his head? And then minutes later, a man came up to me In the same audience As I was greeting the crowd after the show And he says to me
Starting point is 00:39:14 You shouldn't talk about the president like that I loved your act until that Well that cut off right before the key part there What was the key part? He says you shouldn't talk about the president around here You'll end up with a bullet in the back of your head Yeah You're gonna get a bullet in back of your head.
Starting point is 00:39:28 said to me. And we'd also, there was a segment where I believe a woman was shouting out to you, don't speak about the Donald. Yeah, the clip cut out all of the pertinent parts of what we were trying to show there. Are you sure that he didn't mean like the actual duck? Because you were going hard on a duck. That's true. No, because, like, don't speak about Donald like that. Right. The other line there is that that's why we like the president whose name is Donald, as in Donald the dog, of course. And then, yeah, so I shut her down. She was heckling me, and because she wouldn't let me even speak about the president and said, you couldn't talk about the Donald. I decided to triple down.
Starting point is 00:39:58 and go very hard. And this guy came out to me and he said, you're going to get a bull in the back of your head. I know a lot of people walking around here who've been shot with bullets, a lot of people carrying around here. You better watch yourself. And it was just insane to me how Trump has effectively weaponized his supporters into trying to squelch any dissenting thought, trying to squelch free speech. And it's the very core of what our country is. So I said to the guy, I don't, if that's what has to happen, so be it. I'm not going to stop talking truth of power. I'm not going to stop criticizing our political leaders. I'm not going to stop speaking about the things I believe need to happen. Obviously, I prefer not to be shot. Please don't do that.
Starting point is 00:40:36 My God. And you, and if you guys haven't seen the video, watch Ben's entire just take down of this woman so brilliantly. Thank you. And then ends it by like, I didn't even want to talk about this. And it was, but you did. And it's like, listen, don't, don't heckle a comic. They will come after you. And I mean, and honestly, I think that you, as a comedian, as someone who's in clubs and sees a lot of people actually shying away from a lot of material about Trump, I think maybe not because they're scared of being politically divisive, but because, you know, you're at a club and you want to laugh and this is comedy.
Starting point is 00:41:13 And as someone who does a lot of political comedy, I thought that that was brilliant. You didn't back down. And that's exactly what we should be doing. You did it very well. It was funny as hell. Thank you. Despite the way, the clip was cut. There were jokes in there.
Starting point is 00:41:26 There were jokes. And despite being threatened with your life. Yeah. But you're exactly right. It's like every weirdo who like didn't have a platform except for whatever bunker they're, they're creating for themselves. And, you know, it was like, this tinfoil hat can wait. You know, I'm going to go to a Trump rally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I mean, you know, I hate to say it because it's so offset, but, you know, you didn't. I didn't hear Obama supporters going up to the Ben Gleaves of that time going, hey, man, you better lay off Obama, otherwise you're going to get, you know, I mean, you just didn't hear it. There was not, even George Bush, the younger George Bush, who got us into Iraq under false pretense and all of that, the worst at that time was don't criticize the president under the sitting president when we're in a state of war, you'll recall that. But you didn't, it didn't quite have the hostility in the. The enmity here is intense.
Starting point is 00:42:25 The threat of a bullet in the back of the head. It's not even venom. It's just directly saying, we will kill you if you continue talking this way. And I was an Obama supporter, but I still did jokes on stage criticizing Obama. Sure. Things I didn't like, things about his Afghanistan policy I didn't like. And those jokes would kill. The very premise that Trump, the scariest part of it is that Trump is becoming effective
Starting point is 00:42:46 at what he said when he says, what you're seeing and what you're hearing is not what's happening. When he's truly, in that way, the most Orwellian of leaders, he's so trying to create a trust only in himself, and anybody who dissents from what he says is reality is an enemy of the people. He says it of the media. Obviously, that extends to entertainers. It extends anybody that is freely trying to keep our government in check, regardless of party. And it's so about him, and he's the one you trust, dear leader. And that's why he admires so much these authoritarian leaders in other parts of the world
Starting point is 00:43:18 who can just crack down on dissent. But that's not what America is. So anyone who's a Trump supporter who remembers also that more important than Trump is the country that you love and the country that you came up in that made you so patriotic, the whole purpose of that country is to allow freedoms, to allow your freedom of speech, freedom of the press, the ability to assemble, the ability to speak truth to power. And if you give that up for this guy who's just clearly making stuff up because he wants to be the most powerful ego on the planet, that's a choice you're going to be.
Starting point is 00:43:50 will really sorely regret. I agree. I agree. Yeah, a very chilling effect on free speech. That's scary, though, I am. Come see my stand-up tour. I'm coming soon, Sunnyvale, St. Louis, and Santa Barbara. After the show, don't stand too close to Ben. Can you say where you were? True. Yeah, it was in Rosemont, Illinois. It was right outside Chicago. It was, you wouldn't have expected it. I mean, there's no lot of violence. It's usually not political violence. Yeah, that's a good point. That was crazy. Okay, so let's jump back into our stories. And regardless of what we say, please don't shoot us. That would be nice. Thank you. Okay, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has gotten under the skin of both right-wingers and a good number of people who consider themselves near the center in a way that few politicians generally do.
Starting point is 00:44:32 But the way that she's been attacked so early on in her career, very often to me, it just reeks of a combination of quite a bit of misogyny, a little bit of racism as well, and certainly some hypocrisy, which we're going to talk about on the program today. So first of all, Vox did a great write-up of some of the examples of people just immediately trying to disqualify her intellectually because of either missteps or things they want you to believe or missteps. Here are a few quick examples. Norm Ornstein says this is a person not ready for prime time, certainly not ready for Congress, which is news to the majority of her district that voted for. Writing at the Daily Beast, Matt Lewis offered the telegenic it girl of the left some advice.
Starting point is 00:45:15 You have the potential for a very bright future. Don't blow it. Take your time. Avoid overexposure. Bone up on the issues. Do the hard work. There's no reason to be in a rush. I don't know if she was a rush when she was getting her multiple degrees, including in economics.
Starting point is 00:45:28 That's odd. And also maybe the reason to be in a rush is that the republic is at risk of crumbling and our freedoms are at assault every single day. And so it's sort of is a huge rush. Yeah, that's true. That's true. We have one more. In one example where people are saying you messed up on a policy.
Starting point is 00:45:44 a policy. She apparently called Obamacare the premium attacks, which it's not, which I would actually argue with. But Glenn Kessler wrote, this appears to be an example of not understanding policy nuances. I think it's an example of people attempting to pick apart every single word of a woman who's been interviewed 25,000 times since she won her primary. So here's the thing. She is a young socialist, Latina woman. And it is possible that our standards for people like that are a little bit different for other people who are more typical of the demographics of elected government, which tend to be white males, typically older. Now, I've been in media long enough to know that those sorts of people have said a lot
Starting point is 00:46:26 of really stupid stuff. And I have not often seen editorial saying, well, you know, I think that they have a chance of really making it someday, but they need to bone up, do the hard work, go back down before running again, you know, that condescending sort of stuff. Yeah, how old is Charlie Kirk? He's like 21, gets on Fox News every single week. He has never tweeted something that was accurate. It's never happened.
Starting point is 00:46:49 He didn't go to college, and then he uses that as like, you know, I didn't go to college. That's why I can speak about, you know, the middle class. Oh, my God. The gumption of saying that she doesn't understand political nuances, and that's why she should stop. We have a president who I don't believe understand is a definition of just the word nuances itself is just so mind-boggling. And over very small mistakes in, in, so it's not even arguing, it's an argument about a mistake, right? So she called the Obamacare premium attacks. Well, exactly in 2012, when the Supreme Court saved Obamacare for the first time,
Starting point is 00:47:21 it was because John Roberts joined the majority opinion that in fact that the penalty, if you don't get the, if you don't pay the premium, is classified as a tax. And that's what saved it. That's made the lot. So we're talking about a tiny shift. It's such a new one that, yeah, that I don't. I never hear politicians speak with that level of accuracy, to be honest. I mean, with AOC, I really feel like, you know, haters are going to hate.
Starting point is 00:47:43 This is absolutely a case of haters going to hate. And they're jealous. And they're jealous that they weren't, they had no idea who she was, that they didn't think she was going to win, and that it's totally a finger in the eye of, you know, a more establishment, whether left or right, but establishment politicians. And I think it's also, they're trying to knock her down, right? They're trying to undercut her credibility. and that's something that's important because she is out there doing a lot of media.
Starting point is 00:48:10 It's very hard to get media heat around some of these socialist ideas that she has, you know, openly socialist ideas that she has, around some of these progressive ideas that she has. It may have nothing to do with socialism. The point I'm making is that she's smart to take this moment. She's smart to grab the limite. It's very hard to get oxygen. She's finally got some and they want to undercut her credit. And the fact that so many people have jumped on and want her interview is not because she's
Starting point is 00:48:36 telegenic. I mean, look at Sanders. Like, look at Sanders. We've talked about, I mean, he couldn't get onto these shows when he started his race also. But like, you know, and his unkempt hair and all this, and people love him anyway. I disagree. I think I'm a very beautiful man. I don't know what you're talking about. That's a terrible, Bernie. Anyway, but I do think it's like they, they. At TYT, we frequently talk about all the ways that big tech companies are taking control of our online lives, constantly monitoring us, and storing and selling our data, but that doesn't mean we have to let them. It's possible to stay anonymous online and hide your data from the prying eyes of big tech. And one of the best ways is with ExpressVPN.
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Starting point is 00:50:03 like fame hoary celebrity stuff, it's because her ideas, people are thirsty for her ideas, and they're surprised and inspired because of so many people being uninspired by feeling like, well, I guess I got a vote for the dem and there's no other option, the sort of centra's dem that's been there forever and I'm not inspired by politics. And wow, you know, so I think that's why. Before we comment a little bit more, I do want to give a counterpoint because while she does have great ideas, unfortunately she made a mistake or two, so she's done. She's done. But it's odd because other politicians have made mistakes as well or said things that were dumb or crazy or ignorant. And they were not fully disqualified.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I'd like to first go to a senator, actually. We're not talking about a congressman. Here is a senator and here is his argument against the theory of climate change. In case we have forgotten, because we keep hearing that 2014 has been the warmest year on record, I ask the chair, you know what this is? It's a snowball. and that's just from outside here. So it's very, very cold out, very unseasonal. So here, Mr. President, catch this.
Starting point is 00:51:10 You're disqualified. Go back down to the Bush leagues and maybe someday you can come back. If we could bring up this next graphic, you're going to see congressional candidate Sarah Smith pointing out a great quote from Representative Mo Brooks, where he makes the argument that it's not climate change that's going to lead to the ocean level rising. It's that soil and rock comes out of the creeks and the streams. And that raises up the level of all of the oceans across the entirety of the earth. So Mo Brooks disqualified.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Back in the day, George W. Bush said this, it's not like strictly speaking wrong, but it is stupid enough that he should be disqualified. You work three jobs, uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that. He said that to a divorced mother of three. And look, we could go through a hundred examples of this. Dan Quayle back in the day said the Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history, but we all lived in this century.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I didn't live in this century. He then took a nap on the ground. I'm not even sure if he did live in the century, to be honest. He made me one of those fictional characters we were talking about earlier. Was there ever a Dan quail? But despite the incredible, irrefutable proof that Inhoff there showed that if you can find a snowball, global warming is not real. I think it's hard to counter argue that. Snow still exists.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And so the planet's not warming. But I think there's something much more sinister at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, of just some of the sense of why people are so hard trying to take down Cortez, AOC as you call her. And I don't think it's a coincidence that she's a Latino woman. And so much of what the Trump administration has been trying to demonize is Latino people. And I think that's why it is so dangerous of a moment, but also so important and hopeful of a moment in our nation's history right now that just two months away is the midterm elections. And it is a defining moment for really which course our nation's going to take.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And I think it's such an opportunity that we need to really rally so much harder. Like James Comey tweeted, as a lifelong Republican, he thinks everybody has to vote Democratic in this midterm election just to save the republic, not because a party or platform, but because the Republicans in Congress have abdicated their duty to put a check
Starting point is 00:53:20 on this president who's undermining all of our norms, all of our institutions, all of our values. And so regardless of what your political stance is, this is a time where you have to decide, is America the country we all believe it is, the words it is in our founding documents, which are that of embracing all people, on the Statue of Liberty, taking your huddled muscles who are yearning to be free to come to America, or do you want to become a country that is now, again, in its codifying, racism, codifying, classism, codifying, only allowing
Starting point is 00:53:50 white people to continue to climb. What America do you want? That's what has to be decided in two months. And I think we're not even fighting hard enough to flip the Senate. Oh, it's a hard path to flip the Senate. Easier to flip Congress. Well, people have had to fight revolutionary wars, civil wars, for the values of our country. All we have to do is flip a couple of seats in the Senate. It's not going to few doors.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It's not going to few doors. Let's just flip both houses. Let's not just have an impeachment that can then embarrass Trump. Impeachment and removal from office. We need both houses for the future of the values of our country. Not about politics right now. It's about who we are. I think we should end to that point.
Starting point is 00:54:29 That's a very good point. We're going to take our last break of this hour. But when we come back, Bank of America, suddenly, very interested in your documents. I'm funny normally. He'll be funny after this. We hope you're enjoying this free clip from the Young Turks. If you want to get the whole show and more exclusive content while supporting independent media, become a member at t.wit.com slash join today.
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Starting point is 00:55:25 And I wanted to read one tweet about the story we're just talking about. Math magician said, what the establishment is doing to Alexandria is what they tried to do to Bernie and it failed spectacularly to the point where they actually had to rig the primary to win. The story is going to end the exact same way, except we're not going to stand for them rigging it. Well, thankfully in this case, she's won her primary. Everything seemed fairly above board, at least in terms of the actual voting.
Starting point is 00:55:48 And it seems almost assured that she will enter Congress. And I have a feeling she's going to enter like a wrecking ball. Yes. Okay, one more story for you. I hope you don't be naked on a wrecking ball like Miley Cyrus. Why not? Why? That would be memorable.
Starting point is 00:56:00 That would be memorable. I mean, Trump would pay attention. Yeah, he would. Okay, one more story for you. Earlier this week, we learned that the Trump administration down at the border is actually seizing people's passports because they don't think they're American citizens, despite their inability to present any evidence that these are not American citizens. That's the government.
Starting point is 00:56:19 But now we have banks doing sort of a version of that with the Bank of America. In recent months, Bank of America has been accused of freezing or threatening to freeze customers' accounts after asking about their legal status in the U.S. In July, the Washington Post reported that multiple customers have been locked out of their accounts after Bank of America questioned whether the account holders were U.S. citizens or dual citizens. Now, it's important to note proof of citizenship is not required to open a bank account in the U.S., according to a spokesperson for the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency.
Starting point is 00:56:49 That's the federal agency that supervises branch baking. banks are merely required to identify and report suspicious transactions and maintain and update customer information. Banks have not received any new instructions to collect more information about customers, for instance, from the Trump administration. And it would seem that if their job was to check for suspicious transactions, I would say you're probably looking in the wrong direction. I would look upward up to CEOs and the corporations. But as of right now, despite those banks saying either not giving statements or saying nothing has changed, many people are saying that they're losing access to their accounts because of questions about their citizenship,
Starting point is 00:57:25 despite no legal reason for that to happen. I mean, I see your point. You might want to look at the top for corruption of these companies, but in defense of policies like this, a lot of people top of these companies are not Muslim or Latino, and so that's why they're not doing it. That's a good point. You're on to something there. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:42 But if they're foreigners and they've got like, you know, a bunch of bags with unmarked bills and they just want to dump them and, like, we don't say anything, that's true. Totally cool. Yeah. Drug money goes through banks, y'all. I just want to say that in case you miss that. It's a weird double standard. You're right.
Starting point is 00:58:00 But I just want to say, listen, if you haven't already gotten yourself a credit union, get one. Go to one. SF fire credit union. Shout out to all the firemen and people in San Francisco. That's where my money is and the credit union. Do it. If you didn't do it after the 2008 crash and the bailout and all that, do it now. It's absolutely important that we boycott these banks.
Starting point is 00:58:20 these banks. And then we actually put our money into our communities. And guess they just don't want our money. Oops. Yeah. Yeah, there are regulations and their laws governing some of this stuff with these huge banks that we bail out if they get into trouble, as Francesca has just said. But this strikes me as another arm of a brutal government policy that we're seeing played out. And I don't know that there are apparently any laws to protect against this policy being implemented. It's ugly. That's the only thing I can say.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And I would add that it's incredibly scary. Because if banks are able to do this, I mean, at a certain point, what are your rights worth if you don't have some of the fundamental things required to go about your life? Like, having access to your bank account is not like, I'm locked out in my movie pass. That is about as fundamental a thing a person needs to hold down a job, to maintain an apartment, just go about their life. Like, if you lose access to your money, then you're pretty much done with any. And banks apparently, especially under this administration, like do you believe that they're
Starting point is 00:59:22 gonna, like Larry Cudlow is gonna look at this and say, well, I just gotta fix this tomorrow. It's not gonna happen. This is incredibly scary. And I wanna jump ahead actually to Graphics 17 because this is it for me for this week on TYT. And I wanna leave you with one more, a bit of news in this area. The banks and the Trump administration want you to believe that fake birth certificates, that's the real scandal.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Or people who have access to bank accounts. when they shouldn't is the real scandal. That's not the real scandal in this area. The real scandal is that a new filing from the Justice Department and the ACLU shows that 497 children will remain in U.S. government custody separated from their families. 22 of those children are under the age of five, and the parents of the bulk of those children, 322, have already been deported. So while I am saying that they're still separated from their parents, other people in the news might say that they're still separated from their parents. It is far more accurate to say that they are permanently separated from their parents.
Starting point is 01:00:19 They will never see their parents again. They will never be reunited. So the Bank of America can try to make you scared of people who have access to these bank accounts. Border guards are having their passports taken away. Ooh, they're really scary. You know what's scary is that the government has gotten away with kidnapping permanently, literally hundreds of children, and for the most part, the media in the country has moved on. Here, hear, that's so true.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I mean, that is the ugliest of the ugly. But the real issue is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had a couple of tiny little factual errors, and she has to be stopped from entering Congress. She must be stopped. Yeah, nailed it. Then we'll get to the children after that. Or never, or never. They're going to grow up to be the next AOCs, mark my words.
Starting point is 01:01:05 That's actually a pretty good prediction. We got it. Okay, thank you guys for joining. Great to have you. Thanks, John. If there's any other place where people could find your work, feel free to let people know now. Yeah, please follow me at Ben Glebe, G-L-E-I-B, on social media, and my podcast last week on Earth on Kevin Smith's podcast. I summarize the world, politics, news, every single week.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Nice. I've got a podcast called The Edge with Mark Thompson. You can find it on iTunes, and we have a website, edge-dash show.com, but it's in most podcast places. But it's not on wherever Ben is. We haven't been invited there yet. But The Edge with Mark Thompson, just Google it. I'm just going to interrupt Mark, because he's going to be the narrator to, feature film that I've just decided I'm writing now based on his voice.
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