The Young Turks - Trump Says His Mocking Turned The Tide For Kavanaugh And Jeanine Pirro Won't Stop Fluffing Trump
Episode Date: October 9, 2018In an interview, Trump took most of the responsibility for Kavanaugh's confirmation vote by his mocking attack on Dr. Christine Blasey Ford. Trump also awkwardly called into Jeanine Pirro's show to gi...ve a bizarre interview where they wouldn't stop complimenting each other. Get exclusive access to our best content. http://tyt.com/GETACCESS Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Well, there was big news over the weekend.
Over the weekend, the Senate voted to confirm Brett Kavanaugh as our newest Supreme Court justice.
And Donald Trump wanted to make the rounds, media rounds to gloat about his accomplishment.
And first person he called was Judge Jeanine Piro on Fox News.
And Piro asked him about the moment that he decided to stop being so nice to Dr. Blasey Ford
and mock her during a rally in Mississippi.
Now we're gonna give you his answer to that in just a minute.
But for those of you who might have missed those comments during that Mississippi rally,
What he's going through, 36 years ago, this happened. I had one beer, right? I had one
beer. Well, do you think it was, nope, it was one beer. Oh, good. How did you get home? I don't
remember. How did you get there? I don't remember. Where is the place? I don't remember.
How many years ago was it? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. What neighborhood was
I don't know.
Where's the house?
I don't know.
Upstairs?
Downstairs?
Where was it?
I don't know.
But I had one beer.
That's the only thing I remember.
So that was the moment where he decided that he wanted to attack Dr. Blasey Ford.
Prior to that, he said that she was very much credible.
And so what happened?
Well, let's hear what he had to say when he called into Judge Janine Piro's show.
Mr. President, you have a very uncanny instinct.
You have a gut sense of things.
And you were very disciplined after Christine Ford came out and the left was going wacky.
But there was one point where you pivoted in a rally in Mississippi just a few days ago.
Well, there were a lot of things happening that weren't correct.
They weren't true.
And there were a lot of things that were left unsaid.
And I thought I had even the playing field because it was very unfair to judge.
Now I can, you know, very nicely say, Justice Kavanaugh.
Right, right.
It was a very unfair situation.
So I, even the playing field, and once I did that, it started to sail through.
Hmm, okay.
So unfortunately, I have to say that this works.
So the Jenny and Piro calling the left wacky is hilarious.
And Donald Trump saying, once I weighed in, it sailed through.
No, it made even some of the Republicans that wound up.
voting for it like Flake and Collins reconsidered because it was such an ugly attack and
they had to denounce the attack.
They wound up voting for Kavanaugh, despite what Trump said, not in favor, not because
of what Donald Trump said.
He could have hurt his cause significantly by doing that.
And what drives me crazy is that some people, while they deride what he said, say, well,
I mean, he did make a case, persuasive case against Walsy Ford.
What are you, are you mental?
No, he didn't.
None of those things were true.
She remembers if it was upstairs or downstairs.
She talked about going up the stairs.
She's talking about running down the stairs.
She remembers what Europe was.
Okay, so as usual, it was just filled with lies.
But why do I say it works?
Because the guy goes out there, and this is one of the few things he does, right?
He just forcefully makes this case over and over and over again, and he establishes a beachhead,
and then everybody's playing defense.
And this is the anti-Obama.
I mean, he's anti-Obama in that he has no intellect, he has no concern about what's right
or wrong, but he's also anti-Obama in making his case.
Obama would whisper, whisper about the things that he did, whereas this guy goes out there
and lays down a hammer, and look, he's got his fawning place like Janine Piro out there
to kiss in his ass left and right during that interview, right?
But for his crowd, it definitely rallies them, and at least he puts, as George W. Bush,
say he catapults the propaganda, and the Democrats are, as usual, you know, a whimper here
and a whisper there and barely any fight back.
You know, this narrative of everything being so unfair for Kavanaugh is something that I have
a hard time understanding.
So which part was this unfair toward Kavanaugh?
Was the sham FBI investigation the part that was unfair to Kavanaugh?
Was the fact that Kavanaugh lied repeatedly during that hearing unfair to Kavanaugh?
Was it unfair that despite everything, Kavanaugh still got confirmed to the Supreme Court?
Was that unfair to Kavanaugh?
Was it unfair to Kavanaugh that everyone else seems to be held at a much higher standard when
it comes to partisanship, when it comes to decorum, when it comes to the way that they carry
themselves during this hearing?
But for some reason Kavanaugh can go on this tirade, a very partisan tirade, and still get confirmed
to the Supreme Court.
Was that unfair to Kavanaugh?
Was it unfair to Kavanaugh that Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's life has been completely destroyed
in order to come out and share with the public what she went through, but none of it really
mattered and in the end he got confirmed anyway.
Was that unfair to Kavanaugh?
I don't understand this narrative of it's so unfair to Kavanaugh.
He is the exact example of privilege that gets talked about over and over again, where
he can carry himself in any way he chooses and he still gets confirmed to the highest court
of the land.
Well, no, but in their minds, it is unfair.
And look, part of it is, I want to say understandable, but I do want to say, like, I get
it, if you think that he was, it wasn't him, and Christine Blasey Ford in cahoots
with the Democrats just totally made it up and said, okay, and made up a story that somehow
holds after all those years and all the details check out, right?
So if you're in that camp, then you'd say, well, he was going to pass anyway, Anna and
and Jank, and they smeared him on his way in.
Okay, so we get it, we understand.
But that doesn't seem to match the facts at all.
I guess that doesn't bother you.
I know what people like Susan Collins are hanging their hat on.
Oh, I'm sure it did happen to her.
And I believe her in every part of her testimony, except when she says she's 100% certain
that it was Kavanaugh.
That's the one thing I choose not to believe because it's convenient.
is a monster.
He doesn't care if it happened to her or doesn't.
He's like, what?
It's unfair to point it out.
Why is she yapping about something where he almost raped her?
But it was a long time ago, what's the big deal, right?
He literally thinks it's no big deal because he's pushed women up against the wall, grabbed
their genitalia, bragged about it, et cetera, and he's like, now this is a big thing.
But to answer Anna's question, yes.
So it took me a long time to realize this because it is not my perspective.
There are some folks in this country who come at things from a point of privilege.
And I'm not just talking about white privilege, and I think that's an overbroad term.
And if you're a poor person in the middle of Nebraska, you think I don't know how much
privilege, et cetera.
But there are some powerful folks in this country who have had privilege for a long, long time.
And they think you even questioning their privilege is so unfair.
They should have everything in the world, plus you should shut up about it.
Yeah, so that's exactly what I meant when I brought up privilege, you know, different from
white privilege.
It's specifically wealth privilege, right?
Where you've been connected, you've lived a certain type of lifestyle your entire life.
Things have been easier for you.
You know, you went to this private school, private prep school.
No one's ever questioned you before, right?
You've gotten away with so much your entire life.
And so you finally get to this point where you're in the national spotlight, everyone's
paying attention to you, and people are questioning your fitness for, again, the highest court
of the land.
And for people who might question whether or not you're a legitimate candidate for that position,
oh, there's complete outrage, how dare you?
And that's the thing, that sense of entitlement that Kavanaugh has, that lawmakers have,
that drives me absolutely crazy.
Because at the end of the day, someone put their life on the line, multiple women have put
their lives on the line to share what they allegedly experienced as a result of Brett Kavanaugh's
actions in the past. They received nothing out of this. They didn't even get any justice out of
this, right? I mean, what this signal to people like me at least is, if you are ever victimized
by someone in a position of power, shut up. Do not go out there, do not talk about it, because
if you do, the public will ruin your life. At the end of the day, the person who is treated
unfairly was Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, because nothing came out of her coming, coming forward
and sharing her story.
So look, I hope that's not the lesson.
And you never know because if at some point other information comes out, I don't know what
happens then, but it's going to be an absolute mess for them.
And in a lot of ways, it's already messed for them electorally because a lot of people
feel the way that you feel, Anna, and think, I'm done with these guys.
And that's who they are.
I'm reminded, it's not to say that this is the same thing, it's apples and orange,
but I'm reminded of the article that I read about slavery a while back that I've talked
about on a couple of occasions where the white-property southerners really believed that you
were taking their freedom away if you brought freedom to other people.
They thought, no, no, no, that's my property.
And these northern agitators are coming and try to take my freedom away, my freedom to
own other people and to whip them and to kill them and to enslave them and to do unspeakable
things to them.
That's my freedom, that's my privilege.
How dare you take that away from me?
And unfortunately, that is permeated to the powerful in this country in a lot of ways.
Now luckily we're not in a situation where people are doing that anymore, obviously, but
in the situation like this, I went to Georgetown Prep, I went to Harvard, the guys thinking.
I went to Yale.
I went to Yale.
I went to all these places.
And I'm owed the job of Supreme Court justice.
I was nominated and all the other Republican men agree that I should be on there and take away
some of your rights.
How dare you?
How dare you be unfair to me?
And you could see that anger in Kavanaugh, you could see it in Lindsey Graham, you could see
it in Donald Trump.
And then of course women like Janine Piro come and enable it and I'm sure she's awfully proud.
Well, I want to go to a lighter part of the interaction that Piro had with Trump.
This was a quick story that we did on No Filter, and I wanted to share it with the main show audience
as well.
So Donald Trump calls into Janine Piro's Fox Show, and they had a little bit of an issue in the very
beginning of this interview.
Take a look.
Mr. President, thanks for getting back to us.
Meen.
Hi.
Okay.
How is your reception now, Jeanine?
They have a security reception situation, but never sounds too good.
Is it okay?
It's okay, and you're on air right now, Mr. President.
So let's get to it.
Good.
With you, I like being on air.
Hi.
That was amazing.
But you know what?
I'm sure that that short interaction really resonated with Fox News' audience,
considering the dominant demographic that watches.
Yeah, that's true.
A lot of people going like, oh, I can sympathize with that.
When I'm on the phone, I don't know what's going on, who's speaking, what's going on?
Look, it's a little bit of a miscommunication.
It's not the end of the world.
It was just funny.
It's just a little bit of fun.
But as usual, with Trump, even when he's being despicable, he's a tiny bit entertaining.
That's what the right wing really likes about him.
So the part I was actually more amused by is when he said later in the interview, and Janine,
You have beautiful ratings.
Beautiful ratings, okay?
Everything goes, everything boils down to ratings, television, is it good, is it not good,
is the marketing good?
He thinks of everything in terms of a reality show.
And it's devastating because people voted him into office thinking, oh yeah, yeah, he's a smart,
savvy businessman, he's gonna run the country like a business, which by the way, running
the country like a business is a bad idea to begin.
with.
But no, no, no, he's not a smart, savvy businessman.
He's not running the country like a business.
If anything, he's running the country as if it's a giant reality show and it's a disaster.
Well, he's running the country like it's a circus.
And if you're a clown, that makes sense.
That's all you've ever worked in before and that's, and so Janine Piro is a maniac.
Have you ever watched her show?
She comes on air and you only get animated from time to time I do, right?
But she's screaming at the top of her lungs from minute one.
And that's just the way she talks.
She's like, and now on Gine Piro Show, and you're like, well, Jesus, Lord mercy, what happened?
And so Trump, we look at this and you go, that's a clown, right?
And Trump looks out and goes, hey, that's a clown, that's one of my people.
She has beautiful ratings.
So anyone who kisses ass, which she does on a regular basis, she almost lives up there.
Absolutely, go, that's it, that's it.
This is like when Kim Jong-un wrote me a beautiful letter and I fell in love with him.
He literally said when he fell in love, that they fell in love together, him and Kim Jong-un.
It doesn't matter if you're a murderous dictator or Bozo the clown on Fox News.
There's only one thing he needs for you to kiss his ass.
And the minute you do that, good job, Janine, good job.
I'm going to call in on a secure connection here, okay?
Janine Piro strikes me as the type of person who probably stockpiled Fenn Fenn Fenn when she found
out that it was likely going to be banned by the federal government.
She's like, no, no, I need the Fenn Fenn Fenn, I feel like she's on Fenn Fenn Fenn on every single
episode.
She is on one.
I don't even know what Fenn Fenn Fis.
It was that diet pill that had, you know, people had like heart conditions after taking
it.
Okay, well, that then it's an interesting theory.
We don't know for sure, okay?
It is speculation on my part.
You know what?
And to be fair to Judge Jeanine Piro, God, imagine if you were in her courtroom, you're
like, all right, now I'm gonna get some justice here.
She's, well, let me tell you what's happening.
You're like, Jesus Christ, that's my judge, that's the judge.
I'm more stable than she is and I'm on trial.
Okay, anyway, to be fair to Judge Jeanine Piro, she might have natural Fenn Fent
built in.
Maybe, maybe.
Okay.
All right, one more story before we go to break.
We can keep this master.
So Donald Trump was answering some questions from reporters on Air Force One, and one of the big
concerns after the confirmation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh as a Supreme Court justice has been
how women in the country feel about all of this.
Now there were multiple accusations regarding sexual assault lodged against Judge Kavanaugh,
and so is Donald Trump at all concerned about women?
Well, here's his answer.
You've talked about how this is a moment for young men across the country.
You said it was a scary moment.
But what is your message today to the women across this country who are feeling devastated,
feeling like the message that's been sent here, is that they're not being able to
I don't think they are.
I think actually that women, if you look and you look at the biggest fans, and I can tell
you that the people that spoke to me most of this really, in the strongest of terms, in his favor
were women. You have a lot of women that are extremely happy, a tremendous number of women,
because they're thinking of their sons. They're thinking of their husbands and their brothers and
their uncles and others. So he believes that women overall are much more concerned about the
well-being of men and that they're not concerned about themselves at all. They're not concerned
that if they are ever sexually assaulted by a man in a position of power, that they shouldn't
speak out about it because their lives will be ruined, and the person who is the alleged
perpetrator will then go on to be in the highest court of the land.
No, but as usual, he can't help but be over the top absurd.
Women are tremendously happy about it.
Really?
Really?
You saw a poll where women at large in the country were, quote, tremendously happy
about Kavanaugh being confirmed.
No actual poll indicates that, not even close.
Who's he thinking?
Probably people like Judge Jeanine Piro.
He went on her show.
She is a woman, and she will say anything to cozy up to Donald Trump.
So she says, oh, you did a great job.
He's like, a woman are tremendously happy about Kavanaugh.
Total freaking clown as always, right?
So, and then they're the ones that are strongest in their support of Kavanaugh.
And what are you going to do with a guy who's a habitual pathological liar?
I mean, what are you going to correct the record of?
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There's no polls in Abraham Lincoln's time.
I mean, what are you going to do with a guy like this?
So, of course, he's saying nonsensical things, but I can break it down further.
So every guy should be nervous.
No, wait a minute, first of all, I think I'm in a decent position to speak here.
I wrote some bad things back when I was younger and conservative and I wanted to be more shocking
and politically incorrect, et cetera.
So that was used against me by the right wing.
So if actually they do this hatchet job all the time, even though in my case, I didn't get
caught, I actually changed my point of view decades ago and deleted that stuff decades ago.
Because I said, look, that doesn't represent me.
But the right wing used it as a hatchet job.
So if anyone knows what a hatchage job is, it's me, okay?
So no, if, but I did write those things.
If you didn't attempt to rape anyone, unless you're a left winger and the right wing is just
going to make up stuff about you, which they do all the time, I think that's why they assume
the Democrats do it too, because they're like, we're filthy liars, and we'll lie for political
reasons and destroy people's lives at the drop of a hat.
We won't think twice about it.
So then you'll projection onto Democrats, progressives, et cetera.
But is he saying that, oh, now you gotta worry about your sons if they try to rape someone.
Now it's gonna come back to them?
Well, I think you should be worried about that.
Yeah, if you try to rape someone and we find out about it and they're gonna have one of the
most powerful jobs in the country.
Yeah, you should, okay, yeah, I hope we do find out about it.
And then you should be worried.
In terms of making things up, really, if you're a plumber or you're a dentist somehow somebody
is going to, like, something that you didn't do and they're going to find people that are going to
testify to it and they're going to pass polygraph tests that I'm going to have credible
testimony that stands up to all the questions thrown at you, all those things are going to come
out of the woodwork to, why, right?
No, they just want to say, oh, man, remember all the stuff you did or all the stuff you
did?
These guys are going to find, they're trying to find out about it.
When, of course, we just want to cover it up, right?
Yeah.
And guys, sorry, Anna, one last thing about that, there are degrees for Christ's sake.
We're not talking about what somebody said in high school, okay?
We're talking about attempted rape.
And we said it on day one.
We said, well, man, you're gonna go back to high school, you gotta have a high bar.
And it was a high bar.
It wasn't like, hey, he did something stupid while in high school.
We all did something stupid in high school, right?
And we've said it a billion times, but again, they turned aggressor into the victim.
the victim into some sort of, you know, hatchet person.
Yeah, and one of the more frustrating things that came out of this.
So I was listening to this podcast called Left, Right, and Center, and the episode from
last Friday featured a Washington Post reporter, someone who considers herself a liberal.
I forget her name at the moment, sorry.
But she kept talking about how this sets a pretty dangerous precedent, especially when people
start going back into your high school years or your college years, and they start judging
you by your actions regarding drinking and partying, whatever.
No, no, no, but look, everything has to be in context, right?
So yes, I agree, you set a dangerous standard when you start going into someone's high school
experience or college experience, you start judging them based on their drinking or
their partying.
But we did it in the context of an individual who was lying over and over again during
this hearing.
So he was minimized.
He brought that on to himself.
He minimized his behavior in both high school and college in the context of this hearing to
decipher whether or not he committed attempted rape, right?
So why did he lie so many times?
I mean, that brings his credibility into question.
It's not like that was brought up out of nowhere.
That was brought up because of his minimizing of his behavior when he was younger.
But nonetheless, like if you look at the statistics, when it comes to you.
rape allegations, the vast majority of those rape allegations are not false.
There is a tiny fraction, tiny percentage that end up being false.
So if you have not committed any type of crime in the past, if you've never sexually assaulted
someone in the past, you have nothing to worry about.
But they successfully fearmonger.
That's what the Republican Party does with a number of issues, whether it's foreign policy
issues or issues like this involving rape or attempted rape.
somehow convince people that the real enemy here is the alleged victim.
Yeah, but finally coming back around to his comments about women, which grabbed the most
attention out of these particular comments, because he's been talking about poor, poor men,
poor men who go to Ivy League schools and are appointed to and confirmed the Supreme Court
justices.
When will they ever get power in this country?
I mean, that's this standard stick, or become president, by the way.
That's the standard shtick, but in this case, him going over the top and going, oh, no, women loved it.
When you confirm a Supreme Court justice that is accused of attempted rape, women love it.
They're the strongest advocates for it, and they're tremendously happy about it.
Oh, for Christ's sake, just buzz off, right?
Just stop talking for a second.
You're the most annoying person on the planet.
Definitely agree with you on that.
All right, we got to take a break.
When we come back, Senator Susan Collins cries about money in politics when it negatively
affects her.
All right, back on the young Turks, zero divisor in the member comments says Manchin is worse
than a Republican vindication in these circumstances a bitch.
Well, look, I remember when just Democrats ran a primary candidate against Joe Manchin, the establishment,
if they noticed at all, howled?
How dare you, this is a Democrat, and he votes with Democrats in important times.
Come again?
How'd that work out?
Okay, we were right, and people talk about like, oh, next time he should be primary.
He was primary this time.
But the press has always paid very little attention and usually was counterproductive because
they love the establishment.
Okay, Paul Sullivan says, Jank, over the weekend during a live stream, you said it came
out that Kavanaugh did do everything he was accused of.
The bar would be too low even for the Republicans to allow it to stay.
I find it interesting that you think they've kept the bar anywhere in sight at all.
They'd absolutely let it stand.
Well, that is a good question.
It depends, of course, on the severity, right?
So if there's a very good evidence that comes out that Kavanaugh did, in fact, do it,
yeah, they'll probably let it stand.
But if it's overwhelming evidence, Mark Judge flips and says, yeah, sorry, we did it, okay?
Me and Kavanaugh were in the room, and we did it to Christine Blasey Ford.
Would they let that stand?
Yes, they would.
They would, they would.
In fact, they will then turn on Mark Judge and accuse him of being bought off by George Soros
and the Democrats and it's political.
I guarantee you it'll be character assassination.
They know, they have no boundaries, period.
Well, that's so far, they've certainly shown that, we'll see.
I mean, but at that point, remember, it's an impeachment proceedings, it's not a confirmation.
So you need a majority of the House, but you need 67 senators.
So, yeah, you could, I mean, Flake will be gone by them, but you could get the likes of Flake
or Collins to flip back, but it ain't going to do you any good because you're going to have
to get all the way to Lindsay Graham to win that kind of an impeachment proceedings.
So good luck to us.
I hear you on that.
All right, last one is also in the member section, Eclectic Michelania writes, and Susan
Collins and Jeff Flake don't actually believe Dr. Blasey Ford is mistaken.
I bet they do believe her.
They're just so corrupt and so eager to have another conservative on the court that they don't
give enough of a dam to let it affect their vote.
They just see Blasie Ford and the other accusers as collateral damage on the way to take over
of the court.
That's right.
And Susan Collins probably tells herself pretty little lies, but maybe not.
Maybe she's craving.
Maybe she looks at the mirror and go, ha ha, I knew they tried to rape her, but I don't care.
I just want power.
But probably not.
Probably the way that it goes is she thinks.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, how do we know?
How do we know?
Maybe it wasn't.
Maybe it wasn't.
I got to vote for him.
Maybe it wasn't, so it probably wasn't.
I'm gonna vote for him, okay?
And why?
Because she got $21 million in bribes to be pro-corporate.
He's the most pro-corporate candidate, and she's got all this pressure, she's gonna get primaried
by Republicans if she ever does anything against Trump, et cetera, et cetera, right?
And so she'll tell herself any lie she's got to do to tell her to get to the position
that she's in.
But one other thing that we're just gonna relate to the stories we're about to do is,
Now, theoretically, she's pro-choice, so she shouldn't want this conservative of justice
who's against Roe v. Wade on the court.
But that's why I say it's all in the bribes.
She doesn't care about social issues.
At the end of the day, the only thing she cares about is the money, Lobowski.
Yep, the American oligarchs who didn't get covered much during this whole debacle.
They're the ones behind the scenes pushing for or pushed for Kavanaugh's confirmation,
and they got what they want.
Look, your life doesn't matter.
What matters to these politicians is what these corporations want, what these corporate executives
want, and how much money they're going to make in their campaigns.
It's devastating.
Anyway.
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Money in politics has been a huge problem in our political system.
It undermines democracy.
It's something that we've been arguing about here at the Young Turks for quite some time now.
But our politicians seem to love the status quo.
They never challenge it.
It appears they love money in politics, except when money
Money in politics negatively impacts them.
Senator Susan Collins is a prime example of that.
Now she voted in favor of Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation to the Supreme Court, and she
was very well aware of CrowdPack, which is a political action committee that raised money
in an effort to convince Collins to vote against Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation.
Now, anyone who contributed money to CrowdPack was basically helping to fund her opponent
if she voted in favor of Kavanaugh.
Now, of course, she voted in favor of Kavanaugh, and CrowdPack has raised more than $3.5
million for whoever Collins' opponent will be.
Now, she's up for reelection in 2020, and she was asked about all this during a segment
on 60 Minutes.
Now, this is filled with unbelievable hypocrisy.
Yes.
We're going to break it down, and I'm going to rage a little bit about it and tell you the reality after we watch it.
First, let's look.
Collecting funds for whoever your opponent may be in 2020.
And the deal was that if you voted for Kavanaugh, then the credit card pledges would be processed.
If you voted against Kavanaugh, they wouldn't process the credit card numbers.
and something over $2 million was raised.
This is a classic quid pro quo, as defined in our bribery laws.
They are asking me to perform an official act.
And if I do not do what they want,
$2 million plus is going to go to my opponent.
I think that if our politics has come to the point where people are trying to buy votes
and buy positions is that we are in a very sad place.
Hilarious! If people are trying to buy votes and buy positions, we're in a very sad place.
Susan Collins, America would like to say hello.
Washington would like to meet you.
Are you kidding me?
So let me show you how much Susan Collins has taken over the course of her career.
Let's go to Graphics 6 here.
Yeah, that's over $21 million.
dollars that Susan Collins has raised and then spent on her own behalf of political career
and races that she has run, okay?
So all right, let's get this right.
So you're telling me that massive corporations and their packs gave you money, what, for
their health, because of charity, because you were doing such great work in Maine, and all the
oil companies and the defense contractors and every other company that bribed you.
didn't bribe you, and they didn't care about your votes at all.
I mean, they were saying of giving it to the, you know, the local dentist, but changed
their minds until I said, you know what, let's do charity for this politician instead.
Oh, what a wonderful coincidence.
Nobody could have seen this coming.
Susan Collins votes with our interest every time.
But that's not a quid pro quo.
That's not a sad place where people buy your votes.
No, no, Susan Collins, I got news for you.
You are the corruption.
You are, well, you took all that money and they didn't do it for charity.
They did it for a return on investment.
And the first time they gave it to you, it was a test, hey, will she do anything we tell
her?
The second time they gave it to you was, hey, that we got a nice return on investment.
That's what corporations do.
They're not in the charity business, they're in the profit making business.
They profited off of your votes.
So they said, hey, that's a good return on investment.
Let me keep giving to Susan Collins because she's exactly the kind of corrupt politician
that we like to bribe.
So your whole career is based on bribery.
And now you turn around and say, but wait a minute, these aren't big corporate interests.
These aren't super PACs.
This is just regular Americans getting involved in politics, unacceptable, unacceptable.
Now all of a sudden, she found out people are trying to buy votes.
After getting $21 million in bribes, all of a sudden, Susan Collins realizes there's gambling
in this establishment, and she's just shocked, shocked about it.
No, it's incredible.
So, I mean, think about it.
Under her logic, okay, corporations are people who should have protected speech, and so their
donations to her campaign should be protected under the First Amendment.
But American people were not people, right?
So if she does something that we dislike and we fund something that would help her opponent,
oh my God, this is quid pro quo, this is bribery, can you believe, this is horrible?
No, but guess what, we're people too, right?
So if we're gonna have a corrupt political system where money has more influence than going
to the polls and voting, then you better believe that we're gonna go ahead and take advantage
of it and help fund your opponent.
Now, at the moment, there isn't an opponent.
As I mentioned, she's not up for reelection until 2020, but she's scared, and they've raised
more than $3.5 million already for whoever's going to run against her.
Yeah, so let me make a bold prediction in a sec.
But by the way, this is the same complaint they have about Wolfpack.
They go, hey, Wolfpack is to get money out of politics, get a convention, get an amendment,
and go above the head of the Supreme Court.
You don't like Kavanaugh?
Great, you don't need the Supreme Court.
Constitutional Amendment, we're done with it.
No more private financing elections.
We're going to end the bribery completely, wolf dash pack.com slash join.
Go find out about it, see if you want to participate.
Now when Wolfpack takes money from you guys, and it's all small dollar donations, and
they spend $50,000 on a local state election, people have heart attacks.
They're like, how could you do this to us?
I can't believe you were spending money in politics.
Well, there's a great way to end that.
Get money out of politics.
Otherwise, shut up about it.
Sorry, Susan, you take the bribes.
Now all of a sudden, when real Americans donate to you, donate against you, all of a sudden,
it turns out, they're trying to influence our votes.
I mean, come on, are you really that, look, I got to ask you, I mean, are you that stupid?
No, she's not stupid.
No, you're not.
No, I don't want people to misunderstand me.
I think Susan Collins is stupid.
I think she's fundamentally corrupt.
She's systematically and systemically corrupt, because she's part of a system where she takes
$21 million and gives exactly what those people want, and then she turns around and cries
about this.
So here's a prediction.
There's no way the Republicans don't challenge that $3.5 million.
You think they're just going to let it stand?
No, they're going to go to court and try to deny you guys the right and the ability
to give money.
So they're going to make the argument, Anna just said, that corporations are human beings,
but you are not.
People are not people in the United States.
Corporations, though, are people.
They're gonna say that corporations, since they are human beings, they have First Amendment
rights, and we think speech, money is not money, it's not property.
Money's obviously property.
No, it's not property, it's actually speech that a human can say.
But when you, an actual human being give money, no, you're not allowed to.
That's not within the First Amendment.
You have to shut up and not give $5 or $10, but corporations can give anything they like.
I guarantee you that they make that case.
And now, with Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court, conveniently enough, it'll go to the Supreme
Court, and Kavanaugh should obviously recuse himself.
This vote is about him.
The money was about him.
My guess is, knowing that he has no scruples, no principles whatsoever, he's like, what do
I care?
I'm already on the Supreme Court.
You had your shot and you didn't win.
So I'm not going to recuse myself, and I'm going to say, yeah, of course, illegal.
Real people giving money against Republicans illegal, corporations, huge billionaires giving
money to Republicans to serve them, legal.
Even if they don't win, that will definitely be the argument that they make.
Oh, pathetic.
Okay, well, let's talk about potential opponents.
Yeah.
Senator Susan Collins could be facing an opponent in the 2020 election, that's when she's
up for reelection, and the reason why we're having a conversation about this to begin
with is because Senator Collins voted in favor of Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation to the Supreme
Court.
Now, Susan Rice, a former Obama aide, tweeted something that made it seem as though she's considering
running for Senate in Maine, and Collins did not like that.
In fact, she went on CNN and spoke to Dana Bash about it, and here's what she had to say.
The political backlash, I don't have to tell you, has been fierce.
You saw a tweet from Susan Rice saying that maybe she would run, the Speaker of the House in Maine.
Crowdfunding website has raised $2.6 million for whomever your opponent will be in 2020.
As far as Susan Rice is concerned, her family has a home in Maine, but they don't.
She doesn't live in the state of Maine.
Everybody knows that.
But the irony is back in 2009 when she was nominated to be ambassador of the UN,
She came to me, even though I did not know her back then at all, and pleaded with me to introduce her before the committee.
Just one quick clarification, Senator Collins has a home in D.C., where she lives most of the time with her husband.
Just a little point that I wanted to make before we move on to the other, you know, accusations that she made.
Now, look, we don't know for sure if Susan Rice is going to run against her, but what she had said about Susan Rice,
coming to her and begging for an endorsement when she wanted to be ambassador to the U.N.
is complete and utter nonsense.
In fact, reporters did dig up some of what Susan Collins had said.
And, Jank, I want to quickly go to that video, and then I'll toss it over to you.
Take a look.
It is my privilege today to introduce Dr. Susan Rice, the president-elect's nominee,
to be the next United States ambassador to the United Nations.
The people of Maine are proud of what this remarkable woman has accomplished in her distinguished career of service to our nation.
And we take special pride in her strong ties to our state.
Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member Lugar, I can think of no better message to convey to the United Nations and no better messenger
than Dr. Susan Rice.
I'm honored to present her to this distinguished committee
and I enthusiastically endorse her nomination.
Thank you, thanks to all the members of the committee.
Well, thank you very much, Senator Collins.
What a wonderful introduction.
Remind me that if I am ever in need of an introduction,
I want to put in my reservation right now.
It doesn't get better than that.
That doesn't get better than that.
No, my favorite though was her now saying she doesn't have, she doesn't really live
in Maine.
Not only did that video overwhelmingly prove her deep connections to Maine, but also on Susan
Collins website, it talked about U.N. Ambassador Domini's deep roots in Maine.
That's Susan Collins' words.
And here's another quote from the website.
Dr. Rice's ties to our great state are the foundation of her character.
Not only is she from Maine, it's the very foundation of her character that she's from Maine.
Guess what they did with those quotes from the website?
Scrub, scrub, scrubby dub, they immediately deleted all that from the website.
No, but this is what I love about our lawmakers, right?
But once it's out there on the internet, it exists forever, right?
Screenshots exist, that lovely video that we just shared with all of you, that exists.
Like you can't wipe that from the record, right?
Just because you cleaned it off of your website doesn't mean it doesn't exist anymore.
I just love it.
Yeah, but to be fair to them, they're incredibly old.
So it's possible they don't know what the internet is.
I mean, I remember the famous speech where Senator Ted Stevens was like, it is a series
of tubes.
Okay, not really.
So, no, they keep making the same mistake.
Like I think in the old days when they first came up as politicians, it was incredibly hard
to find tape of them saying something at a rally or at, you know, when they were on TV.
I don't think they caught on to.
Everything's on tape, it's on the internet, right?
And so they just, and they're by instinct liars.
And they lie all the time.
Susan Collins is a deep liar.
She, oh, I can't believe anybody gives money to politicians.
Did I get $21 million?
And then expects them to vote their way.
Me, vote with the people who gave me $21 million.
I would never, right?
And this is that little smug elitist laugh she has, like, Susan Rice, she's not even from Maine.
Oh, please, okay.
So now, two more things about this though.
One is, I did not appreciate her Trumpian flare there.
When she's like, she pleaded with me to give her the introduction.
Right, yes, I noticed that too.
I feel like, man, it's a little disastrous how much his rhetoric is rubbing off on everyone else.
Members of the media, other lawmakers, that's not okay.
Yeah, and so look, Susan Rice, she's fine.
Do I think she should definitely be the candidate?
No, I don't think that.
I don't think there should be a primary.
So that's point number two.
The Democrats are now salivating at the mouth to get at that $3.5 million.
So the minute that you guys, you guys, real people raise that money, they're like,
m establishment is going to get that, right?
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Nobody died and made Susan Rice the Democratic nominee in Maine.
So that I hope will be a spirited contest, okay?
I agree, absolutely.
And I would want to give it to someone who's a real progressive, who then later,
isn't going to pull all this moderate crap that Democrats and Republicans do whenever there's
taxis for the rich, right?
So that's exactly what we're trying to get rid of in Maine.
So I don't know what Susan Rice is going to do.
But this line of attack against Susan Rice is ridiculous that somehow she's not from Maine
when you are the one person who went nuts over how much she's from Maine, right?
And this whole thing about how she pleaded with you.
No, she asked you, can you do the intro?
because we're from the same state, you did, you did a nice intro, you could have left it at that,
and you know what you could do, you could be honest for the first time in your life.
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Look, I know that I don't live in Maine, and she doesn't live in Maine, and we're both elitist politicians.
But hey, you know what?
And I gave her a nice intro.
She has some nice things, but we disagree.
But we disagree.
Here's what I'm gonna fight for, here's what she's gonna fight for, and so you should vote for me.
I know for a politician that's unacceptable.
You have to do a character attack immediately, you have to do stupid attacks about where people live,
when you have no like to stand on whatsoever, et cetera.
So she goes low immediately, and remember why the establishment loved Susan Collins in the first place.
She's above it, she's bipartisan.
So whenever there's a tax cut for the rich, she votes for it.
She's so bipartisan, right?
she doesn't get in the gutter.
All of a sudden, she's in the gutter with Trump talking about, she was pleading with me to give
the speech.
She all the duet was missing was this, like some sort of Trumpian hand motion while she was saying
it.
So her attacks against Susan Rice in this context are nonsense and democratic establishment,
that's not your money.
That was given by a lot of hardworking Americans to find a progressive in Maine who's actually
going to vote as a progressive and not like Susan Collins.
Let's take a break.
When we come back, Mitch McConnell gets called out about his own hypocrisy.
It was a pretty fantastic exchange.
We'll have that and more when we were talking about.
Yeah, just one more thing, because I remembered I'm not done with Susan Collins yet.
Oh.
Okay, so yeah, I'm on a warpath.
Her talk about money in politics is obviously what enraged me.
But speaking of money, she received some money from pro-choice groups.
I want to talk about that when we come back.
So oops is the theme, but the details are important.
We'll do that when we return.
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All right, back on the Young Turks, so many comments to get to.
Jeremy Kohler writes in a comment in the member section that I shouldn't laugh at, but I did.
Can we talk about how Susan Collins sounds like she's constantly using one of those old-timey
exercise machines with the big belt that vibrates?
I didn't know where he was going with that.
Yeah, by the way, there was like a big lawsuit, I think, for the company that was selling
that and advertising that.
Yeah, Susan Collins was the lead plaintiff.
Anyway, nice job, Jerry.
Okay, top cat since, Collins has been for sale for decades.
Charles writes in, it was so easy to remove the filibuster and only need 50 votes to elect
Supreme Court justice.
It's truly outrageous to only need 50 for that on to top it off, needing 67 to remove
them.
And the 67 cannot be altered in any way, except I suppose through a constitutional amendment,
which when it comes to modifying that rule seems even less likely than getting 67
senators in the first place.
Kavanaugh isn't going anywhere.
Anyone know if the amendment is the only way, though.
Okay, so Charles, there's disingenuous people like Alan Dershowitz who are going on TV
today saying, you can't even do it.
You can't even impeach the Supreme Court justice.
I don't care if you get 67 senators.
I don't care if you prove that he, in fact, did try to do the rape, et cetera.
Don't care, don't care.
We'll fight you all the way.
And this guy, by the way, Dershowitz, still pretending to be a liberal.
hilarious, hilarious, but he's basically saying under no circumstances.
His view of the law is, as usual, not correct, you can impeach, many judges have been impeached
in the past, 13 have been, and eight were convicted and got the requisite number of votes
needed to remove them from office, so it is possible, but incredibly difficult.
And by the way, last thing on this, look, the reason I do the told you segments sometimes
and talk about it is because are we full of crap or do we know what we're talking about?
Is the establishment right?
Are we right?
So when Harry Reid said, hey, I'm going to take away the filibuster, but just for lower judges,
right before the Democrats lose their majority, I said, that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
So you waited six years and you allowed the Republicans to block all those federal judges
for all that time.
And then right as you're about to lose the majority, you're going to open the door
for the Republicans to take away the filibuster on the Supreme Court.
And they said, no, the Republicans wouldn't do that.
Oh, come on.
Oh, come on.
So this is why people are disgusted by the Democratic Party.
Yes.
Okay, so, all right, let me go on lighter stuff.
So on Twitter, I don't know that it's lighter at all, actually, but Shelly B-71 says,
let her have it with all you've got, she's forsaken us in Maine, I'm her constituent, and
She's as corrupt as they come while playing naive.
She's not dumb.
She's a McConnell flunky with a lobbyist husband.
Okay?
That was good.
By the way, her constituents traveled to D.C. just to plead with her and beg her to vote
no on Kavanaugh.
And she voted yes anyway.
One of the constituents was a guy running for Senate.
His name is Zach Ringelstein.
You should look him up because he's running against the other so-called moderate, who is Angus
King.
You now have ranked choice voting in Maine.
It will not cost Angus King any votes.
You put Zach first, and then if you want to put Angus King second, you do that.
You put the Republican last or not at all, okay?
So, but the Democrats who claimed, oh, do you've already said it's not a Democrat, is the
independent.
Angus King is an independent running against a Democrat, Zach Ringelstein.
And in Maine, the Democrats are like, no, screw the Democrat, who cares if you're called
a Democrat or not?
We're going to support Angus King.
So Zach went and protested against Susan Collins.
Last one from Twitter, Old Punk 721 says, every one of those three and a half million
is a $20 and $20 donation by a main citizen like myself.
They hated when you use their tools against them.
Exactly right and why they'll sue you.
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Okay, so now I'm going to do the next story.
It's about Susan Collins.
It's a real quick one, but an important one.
Susan Collins, outraged that real citizens have raised money against her because she voted for
Judge now Justice, unfortunately, Kavanaugh.
Three and a half million dollars were raised.
She says, I can't believe people trying to influence politicians, hilarious.
She's raised over $21 million throughout her career and loved every minute of it when she
was taking giant corporate money, everything was fine.
But here's something else we noticed at the Young Turks.
She has raised over $74,000 from pro-choice groups throughout her career.
Now, compared to the 21 million, it's not a big number.
Corporations like to bribe her more, and she loves taking their bribes.
But she, and those are legal in this system.
In America, unfortunately, the swamp has taken over because we legalize bribery, and it's madness.
But in this case, pro-choice groups gave money because, hey, there's a pro-choice Republican.
They were led to believe that there are moderate Republicans, hilarious.
And a lot of times, people in the Northeast, vote for so-called moderate Republicans.
Republicans. I told you in a recent election night coverage we did, it's a trick. I know I was a moderate
Republican. I was a liberal Republican from New Jersey in the 80s and 90s. There's no such thing
left anymore. She's fine with a party that did torture. She's fine with a party that started
the Iraq war that gave endless tax cuts for the rich that wants to deregulate so that we pollute
our environment. But she claimed that she was one of the few pro-choice people left in the
Republican Party. And that part is technically.
anomaly true according to her statements, because the rest of the Republicans are no longer
pro-choice.
So there's only two people left in all of Congress after this election because Charlie Dent
and one other guy in the House are retiring, okay?
So there are literally no pro-choice Republicans in the House.
Okay, now think about that.
The country is two-thirds pro-choice.
And a lot of those Republicans got there in deeply pro-life districts, I get it.
But a lot of them got there in pro-choice districts, very pro-choice districts.
But they said, it's okay, I'm a moderate, I'm a moderate.
Have they even voted moderate?
No, it doesn't matter.
Most of those guys vote over 90% with Trump, but it doesn't matter in this issue, because
they don't exist anymore.
In the Senate, there's only two left, Murkowski from Alaska and Susan Collins from Maine.
Now, Murkowski voted against Kavanaugh, so hey, she lived up to her stated principles.
Kavanaugh clearly against Roe versus Wade, and we'll see, you know, he says he respects
president. That's funny. Funny. All right. Anyway, so Collins has taken $74,000 from pro-choice groups.
Now that she voted for Kavanaugh, is she going to give the money back? Are those groups going
to ask for the money back? Or, oh, well, what can you do? I mean, she's so bipartisan. No, she's not.
And she's pro-choice. Well, you can say you're pro-choice all day long, but how do you vote?
And you just put Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court. Now, of course, Collins will again play
She's not dumb, but she'll play it.
She's been doing it for two days straight on TV, like, oh, golly, gee, there's money given
to politicians?
Well, I've got the papers, okay?
So now she'll say, oh, Kavanaugh, he might vote against Roe versus Wade, but I didn't
know that, right?
So then at a bare minimum offer this challenge.
Number one, if you're one of those pro-choice groups, you should immediately demand
your money back.
Number two, Susan Collins, are you willing to say on the record that if Kavanaugh limits Roe versus
Wade in any way, because he could just completely overrule the precedent, or he could chip
away at it as the conservative justice have been doing?
So he can make it much harder to get an abortion, oh, well, you have to get a permit
from a hospital, you have to make the hallways narrow or wider or whatever expense
we want to put on.
Are you then willing to say that it turns out he was against Roe versus Wade and give
the money back to those pro-choice groups.
We're waiting, Susan.
My guess is, no.
She's going to take that money and put it in her pocket and say, sorry, ha, ha.
And she's going to look at you and laugh at you.
You believe there was a moderate Republican?
You believed her when she said she was pro-choice?
She just put Kavanaugh on the court.
All right, that was good on its own.
I'm not gonna touch it.
Okay, God bless your heart.
All right, let's move on to McConnell.
Mitch McConnell is infamous for his leadership in blocking the confirmation of Merrick Garland into
the Supreme Court.
They didn't even have a hearing for Merrick Garland, who was of course nominated by Obama 14
months before his term was up.
Now McConnell and Senate Republicans defended that decision.
saying that they should wait until the new president comes in and that person should be the one
who nominates a Supreme Court justice.
And so I found it fascinating to see how McConnell like really suffered and really tried to twist
himself into an answer when he was challenged on this when being interviewed on Face the Nation.
So this is a long video, but just pay attention to it.
This is one of the few examples where the mainstream press actually did a good job in follow-up
questions and fact-checking.
So enjoy this video, and then we'll break it down further.
In the history of partisanship on the Supreme Court, your decision to block Merrick Garland
is something they see as having kicked off a new stage in the partisanship associated with
Supreme Court nominees.
Yeah, they don't know much history.
You have to go back to 1880 to find the last time a Senate controlled by a different
party from the president confirmed a Supreme Court justice to a vacancy created in the middle
of a presidential election.
They also conveniently forgotten that Joe Biden said in 1992, when he was chairman of the
Judiciary Committee, the Democrats control the Senate, Republican in the White House.
If a vacancy occurred, they wouldn't fill it.
They also conveniently forgot that Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid, 18 months before the end
of Bush 43, said if a Supreme Court vacancy occurred, they wouldn't fill it.
Talk about hypocrisy.
Right, but Mr. Leader, I don't think that's right. In 1956, Eisenhower nominated Brennan,
the 84th Congress was a Democrat controlled. And also on the Biden rule, Joe Biden was talking in the abstract.
There was no nominee, no nominee was blocked. And he said to not have the nomination come up before the election,
but that it could come up after the election. And so what Democrats say when they hear you doing this is they say,
he's creating new rules to essentially do what he wants to do. And as you've written in your book,
the long game, when you do that, it actually hurts democracy.
Yeah, well, that's not exactly, that's not at all what happened, John.
You're completely misconstruing what happened.
What I gave you is the history of this.
I know the history of this.
I've spent a lot of time on this throughout my career.
What I did was entirely consistent with what the history of the Senate's been in that situation
going back to 1880.
Well, I think the 1956 example, and also in 1968, later in the election cycle,
when a Democratic president put somebody forward, the Republican leader worked with him to get
that person a hearing and get him towards the Supreme Court, which is not something that you
did, a vote at the time.
Then there was a Democrat, then there was a Democrat in the White House and a Democratic Senate.
But the Republican leader at the time tried to help the Democratic president.
John, you are not listening to me.
The history is as exactly as I told you.
Well, we have a disagreement about the history, but I greatly appreciate, we greatly appreciate you.
with us.
Oh, he didn't like that.
No, he didn't like that at all.
I want to give John Dickerson a world of credit there.
He is absolutely right about the facts.
And then the politician got visibly agitated.
Like, how dare you catch me in a lie and tell the American people that I'm lying?
The 1956 example is spot on.
He's 100% right about that, Dickerson is.
And McConnell is like, what?
I'm not allowed to lie on TV.
You're not allowed to, you know, rebut me.
You're supposed to go, oh, well, he said, she said, well, the Democrats frame it this way.
No, it's a fact.
Great job by John Dickerson there and not letting it go.
And so, oh, Mitch McConnell, what do you want to cry?
Because you didn't get to lie once on TV.
So you've been telling that lie about 1880 for years now.
It's about time somebody actually busted you on national television.
And he said, in the middle of an election.
What do you mean in the middle of an election?
You guys held up Merrick Garland for 14 months.
It's not like it was October or September before the election, right?
You know what was in the middle of an election?
Kavanaugh, there's a month left before the election.
That's a midterm election, right?
But if you were concerned about proximity to an election, I mean, look at this.
Why don't you let the American people decide?
They'll put in a Senate, which will either confirm or not confirm Kavanaugh.
And that's your rule, Mitch.
Okay, so under your logic, the American people should decide with the cabinet, but you didn't listen to that.
Come on, everybody knows this.
And that's why I'm thrilled about Dickerson's performance there because so often the mainstream press pretend like, well, I can't tell.
I can't tell if Mitch McConnell's right or his opponents are right.
No, there is a right answer here.
Mitch McConnell definitely played politics, definitely is lying about the precedent.
And so, and it's not, look, and we're not naive.
Well, can the Democrats play politics from time, time?
Oftentimes very poorly so.
But yes, of course, right?
But in this case, is Mitch McConnell a hypocrite, only the top one.
I mean, it's breaking records left and right on hypocrisy.
Yeah.
How do you feel, let's go to his one shot again.
How do you feel about the fact that Mitch McConnell looks like he's about to destroy you?
Like, he looks like he's about to eat you.
Yeah, he does look like a bit of an evil turtle there.
But come at me, bro.
You snap, I snap, okay?
So Mitch, please.
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