The Young Turks - Trump Superfan Paints BIZARRE Tribute And Trump Grovels To Saudi Arabia
Episode Date: November 22, 2018Jon McNaughton, a known superfan of Trump and talented painter, has added to his ridiculous collection of Trump tributes. In press interactions and tweet Trump showered Saudi Arabia with praise days a...fter it was confirmed the Crown Prince ordered the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. Get exclusive access to our best content. http://tyt.com/GETACCESS Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We're going to start off with something fun.
There's a lot of serious news today.
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How dare you?
How dare she?
All right.
Casperian.
A very provocative pro-Trump artist has put out his latest piece of art in case you're
interested in purchasing either Prince or the original for a family member or loved one during
the holidays.
Now John McNaughton is the name of the artist and I want to show you what he has painted.
Lots of symbolism here, there's Donald Trump, Mr. 45, with a red jersey, and he's playing
football, I suppose, with bone spurs and everything, you know, running to make a touchdown and
he's, I don't know, what do you call it when you pass all the other people in the team,
opposing team?
That's not a tackle.
That's like an interception?
No, that's not an interception.
No, none of those things.
He's just scoring.
That's all this happens.
Okay, so he's scoring.
And all of those other guys, even though most of them seem unrecognizable, are democratic
politicians.
So let me give you the list of people included in this.
There is Senator Cory Booker, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, former Vice President
Joe Biden, former President Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders is in there, Senator Richard
Blumenthal is in there, Chuck Schumer, Senator Dick Durbin.
So basically all of the big name Democrats are involved in the painting.
I think I see Chuck Schumer, and I think Obama is the one lying on the ground.
Yes, Obama is the one lying on the ground.
Okay, yeah, that's not an accident as you'll find out more about this guy.
Yes, so let me tell you more about this guy.
His previous works include similar messaging, scotographic 18.
His previous political works include a painting of Obama burning the U.S. Constitution,
and one titled, Liberalism is a disease.
Okay, let's stop for a second.
You're telling me that the guy who tried to prosecute his political opponents is the one upholding
the U.S. Constitution?
We reported on a story yesterday.
It was a breaking story yesterday regarding how Donald Trump wants to literally prosecute Hillary
Clinton and James Comey.
But Obama's the one who's destroying the Constitution.
Anyway, let's give you some more on this.
This guy, he was quoted as saying, when they played football in the old days, they didn't
have face masks.
It was a time of blood, guts, and glory.
Today's politics are rough.
You have to push hard for everything you get.
The field is muddy and the players can get dirty.
But we have a president that has risen above the rest.
The other side hates him and will do anything to destroy him.
Try to take him down.
Think again.
He's going for the goal, another touchdown.
Is this guy a European?
What have you been going for the goal?
Does John McNaughton live here?
Okay.
I mean, I guess you could call it a goal, but it's, so what does Marco Rubio say?
Oh, yeah, we went for a three-point kick.
Yeah, that's called a field goal, Marco, okay?
So, these guys, they all pretend to be tough guys.
They don't know anything.
The other day, Donald Trump misspelled Marine Corps in a tweet.
It's embarrassing.
You claim to be for the troops.
And if a Democrat had done that, they'd be like, how dare he misspelling Marine Corps?
They don't love our troops.
I mean, misspellings, that's one thing.
But what Trump has actually done and the way that he's mocked military members who have voiced their concerns about him and his presidency, I would argue that's worse.
I mean, he had the nerve to go after the admiral, the Navy admiral who had, he had.
He was the one who oversaw the takedown of Osama bin Laden.
Now, Admiral McRaven, I'm not judging, I'm not talking about anything else that he's
done in his career.
I'm specifically talking about what he did in taking down Osama bin Laden or at least overseeing
the raid that took him down and to criticize him simply because he's not a fan of yours
is ridiculous, but that's who Trump is.
One other quick thing I wanted to mention is, look, this artwork is, it's a political statement,
but it's also a bit of a fantasy.
Why do I say that?
Well, it shows Donald Trump in this athletic moment.
And fantasy is one thing, but I do want to give you a little taste of reality.
So all right, so there's the fantasy, there's Trump in this painting looking like a real athlete.
And then here's what he looks like when he tries to be an athlete in real life.
Let's go to graphic 19.
Okay, so- Oh, well, we try.
Okay, so now a couple of things I have to say here at the end.
One, I like that he said, he's risen above the rest.
What do you mean risen above the rest?
He's the one in the dragged everybody down on the mud in the first place.
I mean, they really live in an alternate universe where Trump's not dirty.
The people that are opposed to him are dirty.
The guy who said she's bleeding from wherever, the guy who said,
I prefer people who weren't captured about John McCain.
And so another story from yesterday was inside source in the White House saying that he
will not go to visit war zones, and he hasn't gone for two years now.
And it's because he is literally afraid.
He's afraid for his life, and he's afraid they're going to try to kill him and won't go.
That's the tough guy who's beating all the other ones in football and is all heroic.
No, the guy's a literal coward.
He ran from Vietnam because he claimed he had bone spurs.
And so a lot of people criticize this painting.
I don't actually have a problem with the painting.
So look, we got paintings on our side.
Jim Carrey does all these wonderful cartoons that the other side find offensive.
I find greatly amusing and interesting and artistic.
And some people said this looks like propaganda straight out of North Korea.
No, he just likes the guy.
So he's a Trump sport.
I don't care.
I don't mind that at all.
We're having fun.
We're having fun.
I don't care either.
I mean, I'm amused by it.
It's entertaining.
He entertained me.
That was the picture that I was looking for.
Yeah, okay, well, yeah, well, boy, he looks tough.
He has risen above the rest.
Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, oh boy.
The only thing that's risen in that picture is those tidy whitties up his ass.
Okay, everyone, that's what happened.
So, look, so this guy, John McDonn't likes him, we don't like him, that's not important.
I like though, somebody on Twitter said, is he grimacing in the picture?
because of the bone spurs?
Remember, he couldn't remember which foot he theoretically had them in.
Okay, hilarious, hilarious.
Anyway, but it does give you, a picture is worth a thousand words in that sense.
It gives you a sense of the reality that Trump supporters live in.
In their reality, Trump is heroic and courageous.
And while people are trying to drag him down in the mud, he just won't do it.
Man, we live on totally different planets.
It's amazing.
Yeah, and to be fair, you know, it's interesting artwork.
We have our own artwork here, and I'm not sure ours is any better.
Yes, that is in fact me on Anna's sweatshirt, which you can get at shoptyt.com in time
for the holidays.
Yep.
Yep.
You know what, as Santa there, I have risen above the rest in my sleigh led by a person
with a red nose or creature with a red nose.
Anyway, okay, we're done?
We're done.
We're gonna take a break.
I'm gonna take this off.
Yeah, and you know, I was wondering why we're going with the McNaughton story first.
Yeah, yeah.
Now I totally yeah.
I'm always thinking.
I'm always thinking.
I got you, Casper, I got you.
All right, you know what?
One of the things we'll do when we come back, there's the disaster stories about Saudi Arabia,
but there's also a fun thing that a member wrote that is, you'll definitely enjoy it.
Just trust me, we'll come back and give it to you.
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Austin Booth from Oklahoma City, the progressive Cajun, Kevin Griffin from Louisiana.
You get a T-shirt.
Thank you, Kevin.
Appreciate it.
And then this is the member comment that I promised you.
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That would be really funny, though.
Who's like every day I would have to walk into my office, and it says something like,
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I agree to disagree, but that's going to be a fascinating fight.
Okay, well, anyway, let's hope we have that problem.
Okay, by the way, so since Laura Ingraham's gone, we filled her in, that fifth slot was someone else.
Guess who's up next in T.O.T.com slash Amplify.
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Mm.
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Matt's trackbine says, I can't say enough how impressive I think that t.yt.com slash
Amplify is already this successful, and in the first 24 hours, just a brilliant idea.
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on behalf for all of us.
And Tannen Koso says on Twitter, if you look closely at McNaughton's painting, his red shirt
teammates are way behind on the field.
It's because 45 is scoring on the wrong side of the field.
Well, let's take a look at that again.
That would be hilarious if that was the case, like if he'd screwed it up.
I don't think so, but it's a really funny idea.
If he accidentally went in the wrong direction, end of the day.
Democrats would probably try to stop him, so that part would be accurate.
No, please, please, let's help you go in the right direction.
Anyway, and then Pepper Window also said Trump looks stupid as hell in that pick.
He said, I didn't think it was meant to be pro-Trump.
I thought it was made to be sarcastic.
Yeah, he looks like he just let one rip.
Like, he's disgusted by it.
But that kind of like weird, angry face is what turns on Republicans.
So they probably can't wait to buy that.
All right, Caspar, what's next?
A day following Donald Trump's statement supporting Saudi Arabia and making it abundantly clear
that the United States will remain an ally to Saudi Arabia, even after the murder of a
Washington Post journalist named Jamal Khashoggi, Donald Trump is now thanking Saudi Arabia
specifically for lower oil prices.
Now, he had tweeted about this, writing oil prices getting lower, great.
Like a big tax cut for America and the world, enjoy, $54 was just $82.
Thank you to Saudi Arabia, but let's go lower.
Now let's do a little bit of fact checking before we get into the broader issue here,
which is his undying support for Saudi Arabia.
The national average price of gasoline was $2.62 per gallon Monday, and that's according
to AAA.
That's actually the highest since 2014.
Oops.
Yeah.
So not lower.
Also, Trump's tweet actually compared two different oil price benchmarks.
So West Texas intermediate crude oil, a United States benchmark, closed in trading at about $54.
Brent crude, an international benchmark, was at $82.
As recent as October, Brent has recently traded at an about $11 premium to West Texas Intermediate.
But I'm sure Trump knew all that.
Yeah, doesn't know anything.
And it's going to be even clear in the video that you're about to watch.
It's all about, for me, very simple.
It's America first.
Saudi Arabia, if we broke with them, I think your oil prices would go through the roof.
I've kept them down.
They've helped me keep them down.
Right now we have low oil prices or relatively, I'd like to see it go down even lower.
And I'm not going to tell a country that's spending hundreds of billions of
dollars and has helped me do one thing very importantly, keep oil prices down so that they're
not going to $100 and $150 a barrel.
Right now, we have oil prices in great shape.
I'm not going to destroy the world economy, and I'm not going to destroy the economy
for our country by being foolish with Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is probably the second biggest oil producer.
They've worked with us very well.
kept oil prices down.
If you want to see oil prices go to $150 a barrel, like by the way, Russia would love to see
that, all you have to do is break up our relationship with Saudi Arabia.
So Saudi Arabia, contrary to what Trump said in that clip, is the third largest oil producer
behind the United States and Russia.
You would think that a guy who said America first would know that America is actually first
in that category.
Right.
We're not first in a lot of categories that they pretend we're first in, like health
We're number, we vary between 27 and 37 in the world.
But in production of oil, we're number one, but he doesn't know that.
He thinks, oh, no, it's all the Saudis.
Well, Rand Paul had some strong words for Trump, and I want to give you those words.
He says, the president indicates that Saudi Arabia is the lesser of two evils compared
to Iran, and so the US won't punish Saudi Arabia for the brutal killing and dismemberment
of a dissident journalist in their consulate.
I disagree.
I'm pretty sure this statement is Saudi Arabia first, not America first.
Damn.
Okay.
Yeah, but Republicans are all talk.
Ran Paul, for all of his strong language, especially in regard to his opposition to foreign
policy carried out by Republicans like Trump, he still goes ahead and votes with Trump, the vast
majority of the time.
Yeah.
So a little bit more on their substance here.
So for a little while, when Obama was president early on, they, Fox News went on a rant about
how the gas prices were too high and it was Obama's fault.
And then they dropped precipitously.
And for a great number of reasons, some having to do with Obama, but a lot not having to do
with Obama.
This is geopolitical circumstances and other factors that go into oil prices.
And what's curious is that Fox News and the Republicans did not come back out and go, well,
the gas prices are way lower now under Obama.
So I guess it's because of him.
Congratulations to Obama.
No, it's preposterous.
So the gas prices have been very high under Donald Trump.
So did Fox News and the Republicans go, hey man, man, Donald Trump is really screwing this
up.
Gas prices are way too high.
No, the minute they drop a little bit and crude is different than gas prices that you're
paying at the pump.
So it might take a little while, et cetera.
So crude prices drop a little bit while gas prices are still high.
And when they do, they're like, aha, you see that, it was because of Trump.
Well, why didn't he do it two years earlier, a year and a half earlier, a year earlier?
Why did he wait?
Because it really doesn't have much to do with the president.
So you can't give credit or fault much to Obama or Trump.
And so it's, but the way that they use it politically is preposterous.
And it's for people who don't know anything and then, and don't even think it through.
They're like, wait, wait, didn't I pay really low gas prices under Obama?
Like they just never think of anything.
And they just like, oh, okay, there was one moment on Obama when there was high gas prices,
it's his fault, okay?
Now, the gas rates have been way higher under Trump, generally speaking, but it's somehow
not Donald Trump's fault.
Well, you know, it's funny because I think that a lot of Americans, based on the way gas prices
have been covered by the media, will blame the president, which is why Trump does care
a lot about the gas prices.
He also cares a lot about the Federal Reserve raising interest rates, because that does lower
the markets, the markets fluctuate a lot more when that happens.
And so Trump doesn't want to be blamed for any of that.
Now with that said though, I just want to make a point about how I don't want the United States
to be, you know, dragged through the mud or I don't want to, look, for lack of a better word,
I don't want to be any other country's bitch.
And right now that is what we are in regard to Saudi Arabia because of this oil dependency.
In fact, that's literally what Tulsa Gabbard just said in a speech today.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, as she said, Trump has become Saudi Arabia's bitch.
Now, that's a pretty strong statement from a United States congresswoman, but then Tulsa Gabbard's pretty strong.
Absolutely.
So wouldn't it be much better if we were self-reliant and we focused more on developing renewable
energy sources as opposed to doing whatever the Saudi royals want us to do?
So which leads me to my final point.
They said that Obama went on an apology tour throughout the world.
Here's this Obama, Trump now, after this fundamentalist government decapitates and dismembers,
journalists living in the U.S., thanks them.
Thanks them.
Point number two about that, isn't this in some sense negotiating with terrorists?
Absolutely.
He's saying, wait a minute, we'd have higher oil prices.
We'd have to pay more, and I don't want to pay more, so I'll let these guys behead anyone
they like.
It's actually worse than that, because there was no negotiation.
He didn't even negotiate.
It's immediate concession.
It's immediate excuses for the Saudis after they've committed a horrible crime.
Yeah, so this is the strong leader you like.
So instead of protecting people who live here in America, he allows Muslim fundamentalist
government that's dictatorial and has an insane, strict fundamentalist view of Islam to dismember
people and then says to them, thank you, thank you for helping us with lower oil prices.
And by the way, Saudi Arabia does affect oil prices to some degree.
But they're not the sole people who control oil prices.
It's a giant worldwide market with a confluence of events that go into it.
But they're simple to the things, oh yeah, that's okay.
I let them dismember the guy.
And it's why our prices are lower.
It's both stupid and immoral.
I just want to also quickly mention that there is a bipartisan effort in the Senate to get
Donald Trump to admit that Jamal Khashoggi was murdered and that murder was ordered by the
Saudi crown prince.
Now Bob Corker is one of the authors of that legislation and they're citing the Magnitsky Act in order
to do this.
So under the act, Trump can be required to make a determination about human rights.
violations by global leaders, the law requires the president to do so within 120 days
of the committee's request, as well as apply any sanctions.
So this is the second time that senators have pushed for this.
Because of the first time that they did it, or in response to the first time they did this,
the Trump administration imposed sanctions on 17 Saudis.
Now that was before the CIA released their report indicating that the Saudi Crown Prince
was likely the one who ordered this murder.
Yeah, you know, Corkers on his way out.
So these are, like you say all the time, Anna,
nice, interesting shots that are verbal.
But, you know, look, the Magnitsia could have real consequences,
but the Republicans would have to follow through
and actually make him do it.
And we'll see if they wind up doing that next year.
Well, they still control the Senate.
In fact, they control the Senate more now than they did before.
So we'll see.
All right, moving on.
For the first time in decades, the White House Correspondents dinner will not feature a comedian.
Maybe the Trump administration doesn't want to have a comedian because of what happened last
year.
I actually really like Sarah, I think she's very resourceful.
Like she burns facts and then she uses that ash to create a perfect smoky eye.
Like, maybe she's born with it.
Maybe it's lies.
It's probably lies.
And I'm never really sure what to call Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
You know, is it Sarah Sanders?
Is it Sarah Huckabee Sanders?
Is it Cousin Huckabee?
Is it anti-Huckabee Sanders?
Like, what's Uncle Tom but for white women who disappoint other white women?
That one's going to leave a mark.
And it did leave a mark as you were about to find.
Yes, it left a mark.
And so Trump had tweeted just recently about how the White House Correspondents Dinner will
have a historian and author as opposed to a comedian.
Trump's saying that she bombed so badly last year, meaning Michelle Wolfe, and that the White
House correspondent's decision to tap a biographer, Ron Cherno, author of biographies on Alexander
Hamilton and George Washington, is a quote, good first step.
So that's what Trump had tweeted about, and then Michelle Wolfe actually responded to it saying
the following, I bet you'd be on my side if I had killed a journalist, hashtag be best.
Damn, that one's also gonna leave a mark.
Oof.
Because it's true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I don't want to place all the blame on the Trump administration, although they are certainly special snowflakes.
The media played a role in scrapping comedians as well.
And I wanna give you examples of what some of these journalists had said.
So let's go to Graphic 11.
Several major news organizations, according to the Washington Post, including Politico and
the Washington Post, told White House Correspondents Association board members that they preferred
to do away with the comedian as the evening's entertainer.
So Fred Ryan, Washington Post publisher, said, the event should be about the journalist.
It shouldn't be about cutting humor, but about journalism.
Oh, they don't like that.
So this is a little bit about Donald Trump, and it's giving in to his bullying tactics, so
the press should be really proud about that.
And he says, this time I might come.
You should rethink that.
The guy that they invited is an expert on First Amendment.
He's a historian about that.
I'm going to give a speech about them.
My guess is that's not going to turn out well for you.
Again, you're not bright enough to realize that.
But in terms of why they cut comedians in the first place, it's at least half because they're
snowflakes too.
They didn't like being made fun of.
And so it got awkward for them.
And look, in a lot of ways Stephen Colbert started this and his brilliant, brilliant
monologue at the White House correspondent's dinner a while back.
So many great lines of that, but the one that's really stuck that I've heard over and over
against us that is when he said, well, you know, reality has a well-known liberal bias.
And boy, that proved to be true, certainly in the Trump years as well.
And then Larry Wilmore cut him pretty deep, and they didn't like that.
And then Michelle Wolfe came in and finished them off.
And so, and they pretty much admitted here in the quote that Anna read for you saying,
like, it shouldn't be about cutting humor, but about journalism.
In other words, don't hit us either.
We don't like that.
And that's the whole point of comics.
And by the way, they wouldn't be as necessary if you guys did your jobs better.
And if you were real watchdogs, well, then you would be the ones aggressively challenging
the government.
The reason why the comedians stand out when they go to this thing is because they actually
do truth telling more than the reporters do, and it makes the powerful in Washington uncomfortable.
That's why the audience likes it and you hate it.
Yeah, so if you feel insecure about the truth, then it's hard to have a sense of humor when
someone's performing a stand-up and you're part of it.
I just, look, and this is something that, this is an argument that applies to everyone,
regardless of political affiliation, the, like the pressure to censor comedy is crazy.
We need to all calm down, okay, both on the left and the right.
Comedy should not be censored, it is a form of expression, it's a form of speech.
Is comedy sometimes offensive?
Yes, does it make you uncomfortable?
Yes.
Now for me, good comedy is when the comedian punches up.
If a comedian goes up there and they start attacking or making jokes about someone who's
in a powerless position, vulnerable groups of people, if that's what the comedy is about,
then for me personally, I don't find that funny, but I don't want to go out there and
and censor it or end it.
You see what I'm saying?
So look, everything has a line, right?
You can draw the line, but you draw the line at different places for different things.
So for comedy, the line is really far out there or should be really far out there.
Can you still cross it?
Yes, they're famously, Michael Richards, just yelling the N word for no reason, not remotely related
to humor, was weird and crossed the line.
But you gotta go all the way out there to cross it.
Otherwise, hey, and look, right wing, do they have bad humor that's offensive?
Of course!
Of course they do.
But overall, I don't care about that.
You do you, okay, and you know, get those people like, yeah, way to punch down on people
who have no power.
That's really funny.
That's your call, buddy.
We're not going to get into judging comedy in that sense.
Well, judge it, but I'm not interested in censoring it.
Yeah, of course, and that's a giant, giant difference.
I like judging.
That's all different thing.
But Michelle Wolf sent out one more tweet that I thought was exactly right here.
She said that the Correspondents Association are, quote, cowards saying the media is complicit and
I couldn't be prouder.
That's true.
And a lot of folks basically accidentally confirmed it.
Look, these are not bad people.
Frank Cessna, it was on CNN, he's now George Washington University School of Media and Public
Affairs.
He heads that program.
It's a good guy and he tries hard, but he said here, frankly, people don't want to put on
a tux and come out on a Saturday night to get lectured to.
In other words, we don't like it when you criticize us.
If you kept it to light criticism of the government, then everybody's having fun, right?
Keep it light.
Wilmore was too tough, Wolf was too tough.
We didn't like that.
We don't want to put on a tux and then get made fun of.
So we're gonna have dry lectures going forward.
Good luck with that.
See if anybody watches too.
Definition of first world problems.
I don't want to put on a tucks and go to a fancy dinner and be lectured to.
Oh, is your life tough?
All right, anyway, let's take a break.
When we come back, could Trump get indicted for attempting to prosecute Hillary Clinton,
James Comey, his political enemies?
We'll see.
That's a real question.
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Recently, news broke indicating that Michael Avanotti, Stormy Daniels attorney, had been arrested on possible domestic violence charges.
Now, the following day, there were a number of corrections to that story.
We actually corrected that story as well.
The initial report indicated that his estranged wife had accused him of domestic abuse,
but his estranged wife then came forward and said,
No, he's never laid a hand on me.
His first previous wife also said that she never had any issues with him, and so she backed him up
as well.
Well, now we have more details on the story.
We have more details on the woman who has accused him of assault.
Her name is Morelli, Minnie Udi, and I will give you the details on what she's alleging in just
a minute.
But the most recent update comes from the Los Angeles prosecutor's office.
They have declined to charge Avanotti with a felony.
The Los Angeles District Attorney's Office referred the case to city prosecutors to consider
misdemeanor charges.
Now, the accusations against him are serious, and if there were enough evidence to prosecute
him criminally, prosecutors would do so.
They would go after him with criminal charges, but it appears that they do not have enough
evidence to do that.
Now, I'm uncertain as to whether or not the city prosecutors are going to consider
the misdemeanor charges, but that's when we're out at the moment.
So look, when he, the first news item comes out, everybody's concerned, second day, we
realize that TMZ put it out.
And TMZ is a friend of Donald Trump, Harvey Levin, who runs it as big buddies with Donald
Trump.
It's filled with inaccuracies, you go, wait, that's questionable.
Then Jacob Wall, a right-wing troll jumps in and says, hey, you know, his group basically
strikes again. So if that guy's involved, that's super questionable. We don't know exactly how he's
involved, but he's bragging about getting Avanati. So that makes it a lot more suspicious.
And remember that Jacob Wool is also a guy who tried to get Mueller on a fake sex scandal
regarding Robert Mueller. That's another perceived enemy of Donald Trump. So that fact pattern is
really suspicious, now what we were waiting on was, well, other prosecutors are going to charge him?
Because they said, no, it's not his wife, but there is an actual person, and we're looking
into it. Now, the arrest, they have to do when someone complains, okay, when it brings forward
the complaint, I should say, right? And so their hands are tied, and Avanotti says the same
thing. He said the same thing. He said the police were very professional, respectful. They did
their jobs, and they had to do what they had to do. The question is, is he going to get
charged? Well, that got answered today. He did not get charged.
So the jury's pretty much in, there's a little bit left outstanding here, but that's the thing
about charges like this if you make him, if you make him for political reasons.
They linger forever, you know, because how do you disprove a charge?
You know, the prosecutor says, no, I'm not gonna go forward, it's not a real case, but still
people will say, well, maybe he did it, maybe he did it, and so that'll hang over him for
the rest of his life, and that's how you do a political hit job.
Maybe.
I mean, see, I even have to say maybe, even though it has all the trappings of one.
So Avanotti responded to the Los Angeles prosecutor's office and how they've decided to,
or how they've declined to press charges.
He said the following via Twitter.
I'm thankful that the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office has rejected filing
any charges against me after a fair, careful, and thorough investigation, I have maintained
my innocence since the moment of my arrest.
Now, Avanotti maintains that this is political intimidation because he has aggressively
gone after Donald Trump.
In fact, I would argue he's the only person who can beat Trump at his own cable news trolling
game.
And I think that that really gets under Trump's skin.
So I think that there is some merit to that argument.
He also says, full steam ahead, I'm immediately focusing on holding Donald Trump and his unethical
cronies like Jacob Wall accountable for their cowardice.
awkwardly acts in efforts to intimidate innocent people who believe in the rule of law,
join me, and then he started something known as FightPack, the FightPack.org.
So I just got breaking news.
So we do the show live every day, 6 to 8 p.m. Eastern on t.t.com slash live.
So sometimes we'll get breaking news in the middle of the show.
Avanotti has just also tweeted, I'm still waiting for apologies from TMZ for their demonstrably
false article from last Wednesday, false on at least nine key quote unquote facts, including
including that I beat a woman in her face.
We're gonna get to that in a second.
I'm also waiting on apologies from all the other news organizations that quoted from the story
because they are lazy.
Now, Avanotti did tweet out our coverage when we corrected the story and said that in fact,
you know, explained Jacob Walls, CD history, Harvey Levin's history with Donald Trump,
and he made a positive reference to that because we actually do do our homework.
Right, and I wanna also be clear.
When we originally did the story, I wouldn't say that we were being lazy because that's
literally the last thing that I would consider myself and you.
But the reason why you have to make a split second decision when news breaks during our live
show.
And I felt as though if we didn't cover that story, it would appear that we have a bias that
would give someone on the left a pass if they're accused of a serious allegation.
And so I probably should have waited in that case, but we did correct the story the next day.
And I do apologize for unfortunately, you know, sharing what TMZ had reported initially.
But you see, the fake news people, the right wingers who do actually spread fake news, real fake news, it's a funny phrase.
But they, Donald Trump greatly benefited during the campaign.
And he then ironically turned around and claimed the real news was fake.
Anyway, the people who spread the fake news, they know that journalists and even groups
like us, we do the news and then we tell you our perspective on it.
We're home of progressives, we don't hide that at all.
But we're fair, and we gotta give you the news first before we give you our perspective.
Exactly.
And they know that we will hold our own to account.
So they try to take advantage of that and from time to time create fake controversies.
So the one about Sam Cedar, who's also part of the TYT network, is a good example of that.
They twisted a tweet that he had to mean the exact opposite.
It worked.
MSNBC fired him, but there was so much public pressure, they rehired him.
So they do this all the time knowing, ha ha, these guys are going to be fair, let's take advantage
of that.
They actually care of women are abused.
Let's take advantage of that and try to smear people on their side, and they will help us.
And so, but it's, what Avedani is right about, I mean, we, we are going out of our way here
to make sure everybody knows the full story, all of it, right?
Is everybody else doing that?
Did everybody who ran giant headlines about how he must have, might have done domestic
violence?
Have they all gone back and now said that was wrong?
TMZ was, I don't know, fabricating news?
That should be a big headline.
TMZ is a big TV show.
Apparently they fabricate news.
Do they do that on a regular basis, et cetera.
You know, I remember a famous case where somebody was defamed and he said, where do I go to get my reputation back?
Yeah.
And the reality is that's not how the media works and the right wing knows it.
And so that's why a lot of times these smear jobs work.
But now let's look at the case a little bit more.
Right.
So the case or the documents were unsealed essentially this week.
And so now we know some of the details of the allegations.
So she, meaning Morelli Miniuti, claims the following, that she and Avanotti dated from October of 2017 until November 13th of this year, the night that she alleges that they began to argue about money and that Avanotti berated her using expletives.
So that's how it started.
Then she alleges that after the alleged verbal abuse, she went to a guest bedroom in the apartment that she said,
says she shares with Avanotti to sleep alone.
Avanotti allegedly followed her and eventually began forcefully hitting her in the face
with pillows.
At that point, Avanotti then grabbed my right arm and dragged me out of the bed.
He dragged me onto the floor of the apartment towards and out of the door into the public
hallway.
I was wearing only my underwear and T-shirt at the time and suffered scratches to.
the bare skin on the side of my leg.
Okay, so also the police department says that they have photo evidence, but Avanotti argues
that the day after this alleged incident, she had posted a video on social media, that
video was something that I looked at as well, and it appeared that she had no injuries.
Remember, the initial report said that she had bruising on her face.
Yes, the bruising on the face is definitively false.
That's now, you know, Al-Anadi claims there's nine facts that are wrong.
But, you know, I don't know if it's nine or eight or ten.
I do know there's massive inaccuracies and lies in TMZ's reporting.
It was not the estranged wife, there was no bruise on the face.
So that got headlines all across the world.
Are they all taking back to the bruises on the face?
Because I saw the video, there's no bruises on the face.
So now, whether you believe heard about the other stuff is the other details are right.
Do you believe that she was in this horrible pillow fight and then the dragging, et cetera?
And if you believe in the dragging, that could be really bad, right?
But given that there was claims of bruises on the face and there are no bruises on the face,
given the fact that some right-wing troll was taking credit for all this, I don't know what
to believe about her and her story.
Yeah, it's difficult.
And honestly, we can't judge definitively, we just can't.
All we know is what's been reported accurately.
All we know is what the prosecutor's office has decided.
And if those photos provided enough evidence to prosecute, they would prosecute.
One final part of this that I thought was fascinating, and this is based on the court documents.
This is based on what she has said and what she swears by.
Avanotti, she wrote, has a history of being very verbally abusive and financially controlling
toward me, adding that he has, quote, made promises to take care of me financially and sometimes
fails to follow through.
That's not a thing.
That's not abuse.
Okay, that's saying I want money and I want it now and I'm going to get you arrested if you
don't give me money.
That's, I mean, look, I'm not saying, she said, you could read the quote, you could
interpret it any way you like, but first of all, verbally abusive.
Look, that could be psychologically damaging and terrible and you shouldn't do that,
etc, et cetera, et cetera.
But that is not something that gets people arrested.
That's not a thing that it's not a crime to be quote unquote verbally abusive.
And then what?
I wanted money and he didn't give it to me and I'm not married to him.
And why didn't he take me my sugar daddy more?
She says, sometimes he doesn't follow through.
Oftentimes he does.
But sometimes when I demand money, he doesn't give it to me.
That is not domestic violence.
Equating that to domestic violence is gross.
And look, so this person is based on our own statements and on the track record we're seeing
here, super questionable.
Look, people have suffered terrible domestic violence in this country.
And when you do this and then the right wing laughs and brags about how they're involved
in this effort to get one of Trump's opponents, and your charge against Alvinati is partly,
Well, he was verbally abusive to me.
He yelled at me once and he followed me into a room in his own house, yelled at me, and then
wouldn't give me the money that I thought I was owed as his girlfriend.
So those parts of her allegations are not crimes, we know that, but whether or not he put
his hands on her, that is relevant, that is something that, you know, investigators should
be looking into.
But of course, but that's the thing, since they have no principles and no scruples
and no ethics, they can do this all day long to their political opponents.
Hey, there's a charge, there's a charge, you have to take it seriously, and everybody has
to say 50-50 chance that Avinati is this terrible person who commits domestic violence, right?
Everybody has to say it.
Now, is there any left-wingers going and paying people off or whatever is happening to smear right-wingers
like that? No, there isn't. There's no equivalent. So it's an uneven playing field where they get
to smear the people against Trump, Republicans, whatever, nonstop, nonstop, every single day, right?
And there is no counterattack because we don't want to do that. I would never do that to a right
winger. Because it's morally bankrupt to do that. It is a dishonest, indecent, et cetera.
That's not what we do. Am I willing to fight tough? Are you kidding me?
We pummel conservatives in Donald Trump every single day, but we do it verbally.
I don't know if they're going to sue us over that.
And we do it based on substance, on accurate substance.
We don't make things up about the other side in order to smear them, right?
Like, let's have an actual debate about policy and the consequences of those policies.
I mean, those are the days I miss.
I feel like we're so far removed from that because now everything is about smear tactics,
everything is about slander, everything is about character assassination.
And all it does is distract us from policy and the things that really matter.
It's frustrating.
Look, I don't know if he's ever going to be able to prove a negative that he didn't
do anything wrong.
But he's trying to let hell.
He says, he's demanding the video evidence from the building.
Now, do you think a guilty guy is going to say when no one else asked for it, hey, I want
the video camera, security cameras in the building to show the video because she says this happened
in the hallway.
Let's find out if it happened in the hallway.
A guilty guy does not ask for video evidence of what happened, okay?
So, but I guarantee you, almost outside of us, almost no one else will go to this length
to actually give you the whole story.
And they'll just let it sit there and fester against them, probably to the end of time.
We gotta take a break.
When we come back, we will discuss the possibility of Donald Trump getting indicted for a
attempting to prosecute Hillary Clinton and James Comey.
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