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Donald Trump is aggressively going after his own attorney general again because of the fact
that he not only recused himself from this whole Russia investigation, but he seems to be
frustrated that Jeff Sessions hasn't gone out of his way to end the investigation overall.
So he lashed out on Twitter again, and here's what Trump had to say.
This is a terrible situation for you.
And Attorney General Jeff Session should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues
to stain our country any further.
Bob Mueller is totally conflicted and his 17 inquiry Democrats that are doing his dirty work
are a disgrace to USA.
So that happened.
Let's just note for the record that that's illegal.
So it's not an exaggeration, it's not hyperbole.
Obstruction of justice is when a person tries to.
to block an investigation of themselves.
So there's several different ways that you could block it.
You could do witness tampering, you could try to bribe the judge, the prosecutors, et cetera.
Exert an illegal influence on anyone involved in the trial.
And so here is Donald Trump telling the top law enforcement official in the country,
the Attorney General, end an illegal investigation of me, and just end it.
And so now his lawyers have unbelievably weak defenses of that going, well, he said he should end it.
He didn't say he must.
Right.
Oh my God.
So one of the reasons why a lot of his lawyers have kind of walked away from him essentially
is because he is difficult to lawyer for, right?
He's a difficult person to defend because he goes on these unhinged Twitter rants that
tend to, he self-incriminates.
And so what ends up happening now with the lawyers who have either stuck by his side or Giuliani,
who is one of his newer lawyers,
they try to do these defenses,
but he's indefensible.
So I'll give you examples.
Jay Sekulow was asked about this,
and he's like,
the president has issued no order or direction
to the Department of Justice on this, right?
So to give you a further,
or further examples of how they're trying to defend this tweet,
Rudy Giuliani said,
he carefully used the word should.
Should could be interpreted as you should do that.
I'm your boss.
Exactly.
And I told you you should do that.
Now, two things about those two defenses by Sekalo and Juliana that are important.
First of all, they're obviously worried that he just admitted obstruction of justice.
Otherwise, they wouldn't say, well, I mean, he didn't technically order it yet.
If he didn't know anything wrong, they'd be like, oh, yeah, he ordered flowers, so what,
right?
Instead, he ordered obstruction of justice, which is clearly a crime.
So they're saying, well, I mean, technically he didn't order it, technically, which
Which, by the ways, now get leads to part two. It's not true. Courts have interpreted Donald
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In exercising his powers in the executive branch do have force of law that has been decided
in other cases.
Now, when they actually go to convict Donald Trump on these charges, because I mean, I don't
I don't know, I mean, are we going to let the president break the law right in front of our eyes?
I don't know, it's a good question.
Is the president supposed to be above the law in this country?
No.
If you try to fire the prosecutor prosecuting you on any crime, first of all, that would be hilarious.
But second of all, yes, they would bring you up on obstruction of justice charges.
So why do you not get to do it, but he gets to do it?
That makes no sense he doesn't.
That's why these guys are like, well, I mean, technically he didn't.
And then look at Giuliani's words, that's, he said he should.
should do that.
Yeah, that's ordering.
If your boss says you should do this, that's an order.
It's not optional.
You should.
He didn't say you could do it.
He said, you should do it.
Right.
I mean, just put it in the context of any other person who is in a position of power
saying to someone who's in a lower level that they should do something.
So, Jen calls me into his office and we're about to cover a story and he says,
you should look into this.
That's interpreted as an order, right?
Or, hey, Anna, you should do the first hour today.
That's not like, hey, Anna then goes home and doesn't do the first hour.
It was just a suggestion.
Come on.
Right.
Anyway.
It's crazy.
So, by the way, the weak defenses continue.
And another great example of that is Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
She was asked about this during a press briefing.
Let's take a look.
Rudy Giuliani issued a statement saying he doesn't think this morning's tweet is instruction
because the president said sessions should stop the.
Mueller probe. What I want to know is, is Rudy Giuliani the one giving the president
legal advice on his tweets? And does that statement reflect the opinion of the president's
legal team? Look, the president is not obstructing. He's fighting back. The president is
stating his opinion. He's stating it clearly. Once again, as I said earlier, the president
is stating his opinion. It's not an order, but he's been, I think, crystal clear about how
he feels about this investigation from the beginning. I'm just wondering if you can clarify
with this tweet from this morning, is it the president's desire for first sessions to unrecuse
himself in the probe? And is it also his desire for the special counsel to be fired?
I think I've clarified this about 10 times now. It's the president's opinion. I don't have
anything further. She's, I got to give her credit. She's pretty good at what she does.
I mean, she's a terrible person. But with that said, I mean.
Well, how do you defend the indefensible? And that's why she's pretty good at it because she just
stonewalls. Yeah. She's like, oh, it's just his opinion.
The president ordered a military strike on Syria, but it was like his opinion.
He said, you should do a military strike.
And, well, wait, if the Defense Department doesn't do it, wouldn't there be consequences?
Exactly.
Of course there would.
So, and you have to take this tweet into, you know, the whole context of how Trump has handled
this investigation and what he has reportedly done behind the scenes to urge sessions to
behave in a certain way to do certain things that Trump wants him to do in response to this
investigation.
So according to the Hill, multiple media reports have said Trump privately pressured Sessions
several times to reverse his decision to recuse himself.
Let's stop for a second.
Just to remind everyone who's watching, the reason why Jeff Sessions recused himself is because
he had contact with the Russians in 2016.
And so the right thing to do, Jeff Sessions, to his credit, did the right thing.
Yeah, I mean, to his discredit, part of the reason he did it was because not only did he have contacts with the Russians, which he shouldn't have had during the campaign, but he lied about it in his confirmation hearings.
So it was a panic move like, well, that's another crime, and you're supposed to be the Attorney General, the top law enforcement official, and that's the thing that they impeach Bill Clinton over.
So he's like, okay, look, I'm out, I'm out. I'm going to recuse myself from this.
Then Rod Rosenstein, his deputy attorney general, eventually later puts Robert Mueller as a special campaign.
council. And that's what's driving Trump crazy. It's like, look, I told you on national
television that I fired James Comey because of the Russian investigation, which he did. Another reason
why his professional lawyers have already left the building. I mean, it's a case of a lifetime,
and they're like, no thanks, not interested, guy's a lunatic and clearly guilty, I'm out. So he's only
left with fellow lunatics like Rudy Giuliani. So I want to read you the second part of that
graphic from the Hill because it's an important component to all of this. Now, Trump keeps
incriminating himself over and over again in social media. So the question is, does Robert
Mueller, the special counsel, use that as evidence in the case? Is he investigating it?
Well, it turns out, yes, those comments, plus his tweets attacking sessions and James Comey,
are under investigation as Mueller looks into whether Trump has obstructed justice. He cannot
help himself. For all of the support he gets from his base, these individuals who think he's a
smart guy, do you genuinely think he's a smart guy if he continuously tweets and makes it evident
that he is trying to obstruct justice? Well, they never see it. So I want to actually address
a couple of things there that are really, really important. So I've randomly read a story
about brainwashing today. Actually, one of you guys sent it to me on Twitter. And one of the things
that you do when you're brainwashing people, because I'm wondering what the hell is going on
with this Trump cult.
I mean, no matter what happens, they think, no, he's totally innocent and he's incredibly
smart.
What?
And he never lies.
Are you seeing the same things we're seeing?
And the answer is no.
And one of the things you do in brainwashing apparently is you isolate people.
But that is what has it happened in essence in our media?
His followers are isolated on Fox News, where all they see is glowing reports about what a wonderful
leader he is.
They're isolated by the way social media works.
So you get like-minded information from like-minded people.
And in their world, Donald Trump has never told the lie.
You think they're going to see this tweet and they're going to see it as obstruction of justice?
They're literally never even going to see that.
They're going to see it as Donald Trump had an opinion and he was fighting back and he's courageous.
And he's the only one strong enough to fight back against the hoax and the 17 angry Democrats.
They never saw that those guys are not actually Democrats, that Trump made that up.
that, in fact, every person on that team that we know their political affiliation is a Republican.
There are people we don't know their political affiliation.
Did Trump just pick it out of whole cloth that they were Democrats?
Yes, he made it up entirely.
But his supporters never saw that.
Now, look, this is really, really important because the fixation in Washington, D.C., both in the media and in the government, is neutral.
I got to be neutral to all sides.
do not be neutral to reality and the facts, because it will have devastating consequences.
If in order to appease Trump supporters, Robert Mueller or any other professional prosecutor,
I don't want him to be biased either way.
I don't want him to be biased against Trump.
I don't want him to make up stuff.
That would be crazy.
And that would also be a violation of the rule of law in our democracy and our former government.
But if, if you have evidence against them, what I'm worried about is, well, I mean, to Trump supporters say that,
They're gonna call us names.
And they say he's wonderful and he didn't lie and they're really upset because this to them
it looks like just fighting back and not obstruction it does.
No, you must enforce the law.
Who cares what the lunatics think?
And even if you think they're not lunatics or what the Republicans and Democrats, who cares
what they think?
The only thing that matters is the law.
Yeah, look, I get what you're saying.
But unfortunately, when there is good reporting.
And lately, you know, since Trump's been elected, there has been great reporting.
I feel like the New York Times, Washington Post, they got their act together because they realized,
oh, wow, there have been big mistakes made, and it's time to actually stop playing this neutral game.
But Trump has been so successful in delegitimizing legitimate press that it doesn't matter
how much evidence there is in the reporting.
It doesn't matter how accurate the reporting is.
they have now been conditioned to just reject, outright reject, that information as fake news.
No, I've seen it on my social media accounts.
I quote an article, maybe, I think it was the Hill the other day, and they're like,
oh, the Hill, that explains it.
No, I disregard anything written in the Hill.
Oh my God, the Hill is not like some progressive news outlet.
The Hill, if anything, it has definitely an establishment bias and probably a slight conservative
bias.
Yeah.
But I wouldn't disregard what's in the hill, I'd read it and I'm making it up my own mind.
And they're not lying, you could say, hey, they've got a certain perspective and it's important
to know that perspective.
But people at the Hill or CNN or New York Times aren't getting together in a room.
What shall we make up today?
And they think that's what's happening.
Because they've lost their minds and we're having a debate with people who belong in
an insane asylum.
So last thing, look, the panic of people.
Trump is evident.
The walls are closing in.
I mean, and the closer they get to him, and he knows, Michael Cohen knows all of it.
Manafort knows some of it, and he's under trial.
Right now, the trial began yesterday.
Cohen knows almost all of it.
And Cohen looks like he wants to, you know, obviously cooperate with the prosecutors.
He's hired a Clinton friend as a lawyer.
Four people have turned on him already.
I mean, we went and interviewed Trump supporters at the last rally.
they think that there's been no charges.
They're like...
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There's been 32 charges.
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Trump knows they got him.
So the closer they get, the more he's like, no, hoax, witch hunt, fire him, fire him.
because he knows, he did it.
He's like, you're not getting it, Jeff Sessions.
You think it's terrible if you unrecuse yourself, or you think it's terrible if we fire Mueller.
But what Trump knows that they don't know is, the only thing worse, is if they actually do their jobs
and reveal what they know about Donald Trump.
That to him is the worst case scenario.
So he's willing to fire whoever he needs to fire and take whatever he needs to take
to make sure you do not find out the truth.
Yeah, he is definitely not cool as a cuckumber, as my dad would say.
Cucumber.
Cucumber.
Indeed.
So there's a- He would also look at that tweet, your dad would, and go, what's the hell?
What's the hell?
Yeah, 100%.
All right, so there's a different part of this story.
It's related, and I really wanted to get into it before we go to break.
So Paul Manafort, one of Trump's campaign advisors, is now on trial.
In fact, his first day of trial began yesterday, and we have some details about what's going on.
I wanted to share with all of you.
So Paul Manafort appeared in court where he faces 18 charges of bank and tax fraud, including
allegations that he laundered $30 million made from lobbying for pro-Russia political parties
in Ukraine several years ago.
If convicted, Manafort could face up to life in prison.
So I want to be clear about something.
First off, he is facing two separate trials, and I'll get to the second trial in just a second.
But when it comes to this particular trial, there is really no discussion about Trump.
This is about Manafort and his illegal activity, alleged illegal activity with Ukraine.
So the former Trump aide also awaits this separate charge or charges in Washington, D.C., involving
money laundering and failing to register as a foreign agent.
So he was essentially doing work on behalf of Ukraine, pro-Russian forces within Ukraine.
And while he was doing that, he was earning a ton of money.
And part of the problem was not only that he failed to register as a foreign agent, he would
try to hide that money from the IRS so he wouldn't pay taxes on it.
Then afterwards, when he no longer had a job with these Ukrainian politicians, at that time
a Ukrainian leader, what he did was essentially lied to U.S. banks in order to secure loans.
And so that's a big problem as well.
Look, they got them, man.
So I saw the defense that they put on because they already did the opening statements,
moving really fast as a trial.
And their top defenses were two things.
One was my longtime business associate, Rick Gates, he's the guy who has already given
evidence to the prosecutors, has pled guilty.
and is working with the prosecutors.
He's like, it was him.
Poor little me, I had no idea that Rick Cates was getting me tens of millions of dollars.
Come on.
I mean, look, he was spending $15,000 on ostrich jackets.
Okay?
So he knew.
He knew where the money was, how the money was coming in.
And by the way, Rick Gates, the defense keeps referring to him as, you know, the business partner.
But remember, Rick Gates worked under Manafort.
Like, Manafort is the head honcho here.
So to blame this on Rick Gates is hilarious.
Yeah, so it's not credible.
And I actually love that the prosecutors keep talking about the ostrich jacket.
The judge is a Reagan appointee, and he told him, stop talking about how he spent the money.
It's not relevant.
I actually think it is relevant, and I think it's great that they're telling a jury.
Because what did you do break all those laws for?
For a goddamn ostrich jacket, are you kidding me?
$15,000 for a jacket made out of an ostrich.
I didn't even know that existed.
We talked about it on the post game yesterday.
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But that goes to show you how ridiculous the defense case is.
The second part of it, their defense is, oh, it slipped my mind and I didn't report it to the IRS right.
How much is the number that slipped his mind?
$30 million.
Who in their right mind sitting on that jury is going to go, all right, I mean, I said 30,
but I meant 60, I just forgot about the other $30 million.
No, that's not a credible case at all.
He's in a world of trouble.
Yeah, yeah, and he collected more than $60 million between 2010 and 2014 while essentially
working as a foreign agent.
By the way, Trump is also very well aware of what's going on with Manafort.
It's part of the reason why he's lashing out on Twitter.
He's very worried about his own investigation.
And so he addressed it during a Twitter rant recently, and he said the following.
Paul Manafort worked for Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole, and many other highly prominent and respected
political leaders.
He worked for me for a very short time.
Why didn't government tell me that he was under investigation?
These old charges have nothing to do with collusion, a hoax.
Okay, so look, he just needs to, like, just stop tweeting.
It's a really bad idea, because as I mentioned, this particular, you know, trial has nothing
to do with Russia or collusion.
But Trump can't help himself, and he keeps incriminating himself.
And so he is needlessly injecting himself into this trial and basically letting everyone
know, I'm really worried because I'm guilty, and I have ties to this.
man. And so like, why didn't I know? Why didn't anyone tell me that he's being invested? Come on.
Okay. So two funny things about that. I always knew this was Bob Dole's fault. But what,
but as usual, a childish move. It wasn't me. It was Bob Dole. It was Ronald Reagan. It's the ghost
of Ronald Reagan that did this. It wasn't me. It wasn't me at all, right? Okay, I get it, dude.
Secondly, to Anna's point, this trial is about the lobbying and the tax evasion and the fraud
that Manafort did regarding the pro-Russian Ukrainian president.
It actually does not have to do with the Trump campaign.
And we're being honest with you guys about that.
And we've said that from day one because you know why?
Because it's true.
Now, the only way that it relates to Donald Trump is if at some point Manafort thinks,
my goose is cooked, I'm done.
Yeah.
He might then cooperate with prosecutors and give them other evidence about Donald Trump.
But right now, that has not happened.
So this case actually is, to be fair to Donald Trump, about things that happened before Manafort
ever joined Trump's campaign.
But for Trump to go around pretending that he barely knew Manafort, Manafort was his campaign
manager.
He was the head of his campaign.
It's a preposterous thing to say, oh, my, the head of my campaign?
Oh, I barely knew him.
He knew Bob Dole better.
See, that makes me think, well, maybe Manafort does have something on you.
and that's why you're in a panic over this.
Otherwise, why would you even care?
Exactly, yeah.
So he's worried about a potential plea deal.
He's worried about Manafort handing over some incriminating evidence against Trump.
But for the purposes of this trial, this is not about Trump.
This is not about Russian collusion.
This is all about what Manafort did.
And the mounting evidence regarding his foreign agent activity makes things look really bad for him.
And he clearly worked for the Ukrainian government at a time when they were, again,
on the pro-Russian side, not the current Ukrainian government, and he did not register as a foreign
agent, so he's going to be in a world of trouble about that as well later, right? So, and that,
I think this is an absolutely clear-cut case. And maybe what, and if you had told me, prosecutors
tell me, hey, Manafort did collude with the pro-Russian guys, but he, but not in the case of
Donald Trump, I'd believe that. That's a perfectly plausible thing to do. But the Trump's reaction
does make me think, well, if you were going to collude with the Russians, Manafort already has
deep ties to them.
And why is Trump panicked?
Maybe that's why he's panicked, because it was in a, they didn't pick Manafort out of the thin air,
right?
Trump could have picked anyone out of 330 million people in the country.
He wound up picking the guy who was a foreign agent for Russian, pro-Russian forces.
Might have just been a coincidence.
And by the way, it really might be a coincidence.
But it appears from Trump's reaction that perhaps it's not a coincidence.
Exactly.
All right, we gotta take a quick break.
When we come back, my favorite part of the show today, Emma Viglin goes to a rally where Trump speaks, talks to Trump supporters, and you do not want to miss it.
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Donald Trump was in Florida in order to stop for Ron DeSantis, that is the gubernatorial
candidate who just recently released an ad talking about how much he loves Donald Trump
and how he reads books about firing people to his kids in order to show his support
for Donald Trump, kind of incredible.
But Donald Trump usually makes these events.
about himself.
And so there were lots of examples of him talking about the Russia investigation, talking
about the importance of voter ID laws.
But in my opinion, the more interesting thing that comes out of these rallies and these
events is what his supporters have to say.
Where do they stand on these political issues?
Now, Emma Vigland, TYT reporter extraordinaire, spoke to a number of these people very bravely,
I would argue, and we're gonna talk about a couple of
different things. But for the purposes of this video, let's talk about the Trump supporters
view on the wall in immigration. With that said, let's take a look at the first interview.
And get that wall built. And if the Democrats don't like it, tough. Shut down the government.
Shut down the government. We need the money to put up that wall. We need a wall that is high as
hell and as dangerous as hell to cross. People die crossing that wall. Maybe they'll just stay on
their side.
Okay, so that lovely gentleman is going to reappear a couple of times.
And if you think we didn't notice the apostrophe in the wrong place, you are wrong.
That was awesome.
I don't know what I like more, his angry rants, his angry shirt, and I like it from a distance,
okay, but Emma is courageous for walking into that lines then with these lunatics.
Okay, now, but to be fair, that guy's unhinged.
Emma talked to a lot of people, and she said the majority of them were nice to her, okay?
She doesn't have a TYT mic flag.
Let's just be clear about that.
So were they aware that she was a too much?
So that's a great question, Anna, and I talked to Emma this morning.
And she said, almost all the younger people she asked the interview, they're like,
everybody asks, where are you from?
And she says, TYT, and older people are like, okay, sure, great, let's do the interview.
The younger people are like, oh, I know TYT, they're going to do it.
Okay, hey guys, why don't you share your real opinions with us?
Big ideas.
You got great ideas, right?
Step up to the mic.
So yes, the younger guys all knew and didn't want to talk to her.
But I mean, I don't know if Emma is the Trump whisperer or that's a terrible thing to
say about someone.
But all she's doing is asking pleasant questions.
So that's all she's doing.
And you get all sides of it and people got mad about this video.
Guys, she didn't say anything.
I'll say something in a minute, right?
But you're getting mad for us putting a mirror to Trump voters.
And by the way, not all of them, like I said, are like that.
A lot of them just think he's doing a great job because, you know, I don't know why.
They apparently think he's doing a great job, but we've got more of this.
We do.
So the next video talks a little bit about Donald Trump's zero tolerance policy, separating
children from their parents.
What do some Trump supporters at least think about that whole situation?
It's not like these people are coming over in an SUV, you know, with their thing on the trunk,
carrying all their belongings.
We don't even know if these children belong to those people, honestly.
And for me, that would be a big concern releasing these children to people that you can't even document,
but you know that they belong to them.
So I don't, I don't know why an SUV with people's stuff, you know, tied to the top of that vehicle makes any difference.
But, you know, what stood out to me about that interview was how deep, or how deeply that
propaganda has seeped into the Trump voter's consciousness.
Because that was a propaganda point.
That was a talking point that we got from Trump supporters, you know, and I'm talking about
officials who said, well, we, you know, they're bringing in these kids, but we don't know
if those kids actually belong to those adults.
But, yeah, the vast majority of those children did belong to those parents.
So I'll tell you we can get the full video because later, Emma asked the perfectly normal question of, so you think the kids are decoys?
She's like, yeah, yeah, they might be.
Like, so, look, one guy looks crazed.
The other one looks like a perfectly normal, lovely American.
And she thinks that the kids that came in with their families might be decoys.
And look, I like that you pointed that out because I think, I don't think that that woman is a bad person.
I think that she's been misinformed.
I think the propaganda has been effective.
And I think she's genuinely concerned that those kids are either, you know, not the children
of the people seeking asylum or decoys.
Like, there's so much garbage out there.
And it's a mountain every single day.
Decoes for what?
But, and I know, because we cover the story.
The right-wing conspiracy theories is that ISIS is coming in with fake kids.
I mean, that's cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
Ice isn't saying that.
The government isn't saying that.
Not even the Trump administration is saying that.
But right wing blogs say it and it goes around and around.
And then a nice lady thinks, oh my God, the kids are decoys.
Yes.
So, by the way, so you can watch this whole video that Emma did and all the videos she did from the rally at Rebel headquarters.
So we renamed TYT Politics Rebel HQ.
Now, look, you can go on YouTube and find it.
You can go on Facebook and find it, but just get our app, and it's right there.
So all of it is super easy to watch app either Iowa or Android.
And I want you to watch all the videos, because I want to be fair to the Trump people.
I want you to see all of it so that you could make up your mind.
And part of the reason why Emma went was so we can find out, why do they like them?
And remember, this is in Florida, and I'm so happy that she went to Florida to speak to
them because Florida is one of the states that actually increased its support for Donald Trump.
Whereas other red states that voted from, or other states where he won, you know, you saw some
wavering among the supporters.
So this is great.
Now let's take a look at another Trump supporter who addresses claims about the president being racist.
Plump isn't a racist, he's married immigrants.
Three of them are immigrants.
So what does that tell you?
Is he a racist?
No.
Would he let him into their home, into his home?
Yes.
Okay, I just, so you know what that tells me, just to answer her question,
that you don't know that Eastern Europeans are white or that his wives have been white.
I think she knows.
I think she's trying to purposely mislead there.
So first of all, Marlon Maples was not an immigrant.
Two out of the three were.
And it's, our thesis is not that he's wholesale against immigrants.
For example, he really likes rich immigrants.
If they're rich Saudi immigrants, great, no problem.
Rich Chinese immigrants, no problem, right?
So that's immigrants, he doesn't mind.
Attractive white female immigrants, he has no problem with it all.
What we're worried about is that he does, he's trying to ban specifically Latinos
that are coming into the country because it is partly racial.
And you might say, hey, it's because he doesn't want them to eventually be Democratic voters.
That doesn't make it much better.
Right. And I want to be clear about one other thing. So Trump is in favor of some immigrants
who are considered low-skilled and who are not white, okay? Because as soon as he came into
office, he increased or raised the cap for low-skilled foreign workers to come in using H-2B
visas to work on his properties. So let's just be clear about that because he loves cheap
labor, loves it. So those kinds of immigrants he's in favor of.
Yeah, he doesn't want anyone else to use him, but they're all over Mar-a-Lago.
And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
And by the way, a lot of the immigrants that he brings in through those visas are from Haiti.
And I think I know what he thinks about Haiti.
Well, he's referred to them as whole countries.
That's right, that's right.
Unless, of course, it's cheap labor for him.
But look, I don't know to what degree these people know that and what degree they don't.
But that was a hilariously disingenuous.
Wow, he likes young, white, female immigrants.
Okay, that's true.
All right, so something that was abundantly clear through Emma Vigland's reporting at Donald Trump's rally in Florida
was that a lot of his supporters take him on his word, they do not question what he has to say,
and they just have this loyalty toward him that seems unbreakable.
And so I want to show you a few examples of that.
Again, this is Emma Vigland speaking to Trump supporters at Ron DeSantis's rally in,
Florida. Let's take a look at the first video. For his border policy, do you think he's been
too tough, not tough enough? Not tough enough. I love what Trump's doing with our government.
And I keep hearing all these darn liberals crying the blues about how Trump has an attitude.
And he speaks his mind. I'll tell you what. That is one thing I really respect about Trump.
He speaks his mind. He says what's on his mind. And we're in his best interest when he does.
I wonder what he means by we.
I also wonder what he means by that apostrophe.
Yeah, that.
I mean, look, but no, look, that guy in all seriousness is unfortunately, like the prototypical example of the guy who feels his power slipping away from him.
We used to be in charge.
Now these guys are coming in.
And now I don't get to have the privileged position that I used to.
And not that that guy was born in privilege, he didn't look like he was born in privilege,
but he was just a little higher on the rung.
No, but I think, look, I don't even know if that's the issue.
I think what the issue is, you have an economic system.
Like, people are frustrated and angry, and I get that, right?
And so you have some people in America who are frustrated and angry and they want to get to the root of the problem.
They don't just take a politician's word as the truth.
They want to know why is the economy so bad?
Why am I at a disadvantage?
Why is it that the wealthiest people get these massive tax cuts?
And I can't find a decent, well-paying job.
Why can't I make a living wage?
So his frustration is obvious, and I think it's justified.
But the thing that sucks is you have bad actors who take advantage of it,
and they exploit it to their own advantage.
And that's exactly what Trump did.
And the thing is, the pro-Trump propaganda is so effective that that guy still thinks
the real enemy is the liberals, the others, anyone, Islam, anyone other than the people in charge
who are screwing with him and essentially rigging the system against him.
Which Muslim took your job?
Which Muslim is threatening you in the middle of Florida?
Okay, so the right wing does this.
They say, okay, you know who the real problem is?
They do one of two things.
One is people underneath you.
Oh, my God, the guy who just crossed the border without a dollar in his pocket, he's the all-powerful immigrant that's taking your jobs and taking everything you have, right?
Which is unbelievably ridiculous, but they believe it.
And the second thing they do is the conspiracy theories we're going to talk about later in the show with the, oh, the Q says that it's the Ross Childs and the Illuminati.
And some of that is the not so subtle reference to Jews, right?
It's the others, it's either the guys at the top or the bankers from the 1700s, right?
Or it's the guy who has no power at all.
What does the left say?
We agree, you got screwed.
But we think it's because of perfectly normal economic and political force at play.
For example, when you privatize the financing of elections, our politicians serve private interests.
And it's not because they're evil, it's because that's who signs their checks.
So corporations and billionaires say, hey, I will donate millions of dollars to a politician,
can you lower my tax cuts?
And lo and behold, the guy who got all that money and won because he had all that money
lowers their tax cuts.
That's a fairly simple explanation.
And we try to break down what is a health care system, et cetera.
Maybe it's too smart.
Maybe it's too true because that guy's like, well, let me have jobs, Muslims,
blah, right?
And it's easier to animate people.
with patently false, ridiculous things that rises, their emotions, their fear, the hatred.
Definitely a lot of that going on.
Right.
So we have more, let's take a look at the next video.
Muslims come over to how the Islam comes to our country because they want to take us over
and they want to kill Americans, they're liberals.
And the liberals, what agents don't like America, they're against America.
As far as I concern, they can all go to heck, you know.
I mean, this is our country, I love our country.
And for the first time, and I don't know how many decades, we have a president that is in our
White House that actually gives a damn about our country.
And we should all be standing for him and backing him up and giving him 100% of our support.
By the way, yes, we did notice the guy in the background with the poster.
No, he has nothing to do with us, but that's another brave soul that showed up at that rally.
Okay, and I guess he saw a camera, wanted it back, but to be in the background.
But now to this guy's point, look, you think liberals hate America?
We love liberty and justice for all.
We want America to live up to its ideas.
We believe in the rule of law.
Whereas you turn around and go,
add FBI, law enforcement, no, no, no, no.
Trump's above the law.
Don't apply any of the law to them.
And I can go on and on, Fourth Amendment, First Amendment.
All the things that we fight for, do process, treat every citizen equally.
Those are liberal positions.
By the way, the founding fathers were liberals, radicals, who did a revolution.
against the conservative establishment.
I know that'll blow your mind, but that's our flag.
And we don't hate it in your actions and supporting that authoritarian leader and in all the
different violations of the Constitution he's done, what you don't realize is that you're
actually arguing against America.
And you should take that hat off.
So I also want to address the very first part of that video where he talks about Muslims
coming into the country, coming into the United States to kill Americans.
So look, there was, and it seems as though it's died down quite a bit, luckily, a huge issue
of ISIS carrying out horrible acts of terrorism in European countries.
And that was genuinely a concern that people in America had, people in these European
countries had.
And so that's something that was taken seriously.
And luckily, it seems as though, you know, the war on ISIS has been successful and
is ongoing.
Now, put that aside, though, and talk about what the United States has done.
Because what he is alleging that Muslims have done to Americans is exactly what the U.S.
government has done in Muslim majority countries, all to make our weapons manufacturers and
private military contractors stupendously wealthy, right?
And I'm not talking about going after ISIS fighters.
I'm talking about drone strikes that have taken out entire civilian families at
weddings. I'm talking about people mourning the loss of those family members and then also being
met with drone strikes. Those are real things that have happened abroad, right? So it's just,
it's projection by the right wing government. That is what we do in Muslim majority countries.
And by the way, Republican presidents have done it and Democratic presidents have done it.
And we are honest and fair about that coverage. Lastly on this, look, have there been Muslim
attacks inside America and including Florida? Yes. But if you were really concerned about your
you'd be concerned about the great majority of attacks in America, which are by white right wing radicals.
So that's an absolute fact.
That is a fact that the government puts out, including yes, the Trump administration.
The majority of attacks since 2001 have been by right wing terrorists in this country.
So, but you don't, you never hear that propaganda.
So he thinks, oh my God, it's the Muslims coming even.
You are far more likely to be shot by a fellow right winger.
And in fact, when you just put aside terrorism and you talk, but that's about terrorism,
what I just told you.
But if you get past that and you talk about what your chance of actually getting shot are,
are you kidding me?
So 9-11 was a disaster, an epic failure, not just by the administration, but for this country.
And we lost nearly 3,000 people.
Every year we lose 30,000 people to gun violence.
30-10, 9-11s every single year.
But I bet you that if you ask that guy, oh, guns are awesome.
What I really have to worry about is a Muslim I never ever met.
All right, we have more, so let's take a look.
It's great that he supports Ron DeSantis.
If he thinks he's good, then he must be good.
He's right with everything else.
Are you willing to take his word for it?
Whoever Trump says to vote for you vote for it.
I do.
Anything he says, he hasn't, everything he says is true.
It comes true.
Yeah, so I wanted to clarify something.
Obviously, that video was not by Emma Viglin.
that was an MSNBC video, but the reason why I wanted to share that with you is because it gives
you yet another example of this amazing loyalty that people have for him, regardless of, you know,
how his policies have negatively impacted them.
And I'll give you an example of a policy, you know, these tax cuts, just, I don't know,
maybe she's a multimillionaire, maybe she's a billionaire, I have no idea.
But I'm guessing that it's unlikely.
And if it is unlikely, she did not benefit from those tax cuts.
In fact, it will hurt her quite a bit.
It's going to defund all sorts of programs that I think people take for granted.
And I'm not talking about welfare programs, I'm talking about all the different things that
the government funds, including Social Security and Medicare, which is something that the
GOP is now really aggressively looking to cut in order to make up for lost revenue.
So we talked about this earlier in the live show, and of course, live shows every day.
It's 6 to 8 p.m. Eastern, t.com slash live to watch it every day.
I looked at an article that explained brainwashing.
And so that's, I think, what's happened to these folks, in a sense, on a macro sense.
So, and one of the things that drives it is isolation.
They've been isolated in social media to only like-minded people and on Fox News to like-minded
hosts.
And what they hear all the time is that Trump is great and everything he's ever done is
a brilliant success.
They never hear the downsides.
Not just criticism, but the actual facts.
Hey, did you know the top 1% got $61,000?
tax cut every year. They get $61,000 extra every year. That's what the tax cut was for.
By the way, share our videos, share them with your family, friends, anybody who doesn't normally
get that information. You got maybe $1.50 in your check. They get $61,000 every single
year. And they're the donors. Of course the donors got exactly what they wanted. But she believes
that Trump is right about everything. The second thing that apparently works in brainwashing is
endless repetition.
And that's why Trump, like a maniac, constantly repeats things.
No collusion, no collusion, hoax, hoax.
Fake news, fake news.
I'm the best.
I have the best words.
I have the best words.
I have the best words.
I'm like a smart person.
I'm like a smart person.
And then these people come out and go to it.
He's like a smart person.
Because they almost literally got brainwashed into it.
So, in fact, I want to go to the person, I want to go to video 14 here.
because, I mean, if ever there was a good example of that.
Now, we're back to Emma Viglin for Rebel headquarters as part of the TYT network covering
the same rally watch.
I think they did that, the Manafort and all that stuff.
I think the only reason why they had did that is to keep their jobs.
Because he would have probably got rid of all of them.
Once everything started going on, he probably would have pinned them the FBI and all
them got rid of their job.
The FBI and all those agents and Manafort and all those other people they're trying to pin
stuff on Trump.
Like he's colluding with Russia.
Nothing's going out, Russian.
We evidently know that.
It's already kind of been proven.
What is it, 20 months, 24 months?
What about the 12 indictments with the Russians and the meeting with Donald Trump, Jr.
You don't buy that?
It's just a meeting.
Just like me and you sitting down and having a beer and talking and get to know each other.
He doesn't know, he knows somebody.
He knows a lot of people in this world.
He's been around a long time, long time more than anybody that's in Congress or anywhere.
He dealt with the whole world.
He deals with everything.
He's been doing it for years.
Probably one of the smartest man out there.
Probably.
Why?
Why?
Probably the smartest man out there.
He's dealt with everything.
And there's actually been 32 people who've either been indicted or already pleaded guilty.
But he says, no, 24 months and nothing happened.
How about the 32 cases?
No, nothing happened.
How about the four Trump officials who've already said that they were guilty?
No, nothing happened.
Okay, why? Trump is the greatest.
How do I know?
He told me.
He's been around a long time, longer than a lot of people in Congress, so he's really smart.
Well, I guess by that standard, he can't wait to vote for Bernie Sanders.
Who's been around longer?
Okay.
All right, well, look, we try to find and deliver.
to you guys, the mind of a Trump voter. That is at least partly the minds of Trump voters.
But check out all of it. It's on Rebel HQ. It's our channel, TYT Politics. We changed the name
to rebel headquarters. You could find it on YouTube, Facebook, but mainly on our app. It's super
easy to find along with the rest of our shows, tyt.com slash app to get that, to get all the videos
and watch the Trump supporters for yourself and make up your own mind on it. And of course,
So you can get all of our shows if you're a member of the Young Turks, t-y-t.com slash join to become a member.
Great reporting by Emma Viglin.
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Jeremy Kohler says, is he has immigrant wives the new I have black friends now?
Good question, Jeremy.
Goldenheart says, I'm pretty sure that millionaires and billionaires don't go to political rallies.
They do their rallies behind closed doors with their checkbooks.
That is literally true.
That's exactly what the Koch brothers do in their getaways.
Look, I just want to be fair and cover all my bases because who knows?
She might, she might be wealthy.
You're just trying to be fair.
YouTube super chat, Q Music, Q says,
I always believe that Illuminati was a very real force.
Although I call it Congress, not very secret.
They live broadcaster, Coven.
The conspiracy is right out in the open.
It's absolutely true.
David Nomak says, I love TYT and secular talk,
but I want Kyle and Jenk to discuss Russian meddling versus Israeli influencing.
There's a hole in the analysis.
I'm quite curious as to how they'd butt head.
heads. Well, David, do I have good news for you? We already did that. So check out
TYT interviews where you will see an hour long conversation that Kyle and I had. And yes, of
course I agree with Kyle and other progressives who say, you know, there are other people
influencing elections. Of course! I mean, you've dedicated pretty much your life to stopping
that from happening. Yes. Other countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel, no question about it.
And Kyle and Jimmy and everybody else makes great points about that. And we agree not 95%, but
100% with that. And also our corporations and our billionaires, etc. They just buy all of our
politicians. I wish the mainstream media would focus just as much on that. I just, I want to
comment on that very quickly because, you know, one of the things that stood out to me the most
when I was in school for political science was the work of Meersheimer. He had published
something about, he had published a book about the influence of the Israel lobby in the United
States. And he was shunned from America. I think he's now living in Germany. But it was interesting
because, you know, reading it, like, there's just a ton of evidence in it. And I don't know why
it's considered taboo to address that. Like, anything that is like that close to true and could
actually have an effect is shunned even harder, right? So BDS, that might actually get people to
divest and from Israel, which would hurt the diffuse power structure in Israel enough that it
could make a difference.
So they're like, no, don't do that.
We're going to fight the hardest against that.
In fact, we're going to try to ban anyone from even talking about it.
And so, especially when Jewish Americans say things that are true, people get even more
upset, whether it's, you know, whether it's the scholars, whether it's Glenn Greenwald,
or I can give you a list of dozens, hundreds of great progress.
of Jews in this country who say, I don't want this to be Israel's legacy, and this isn't
right. And we need to have two states, et cetera. And people go, oh, you're anti-Semitic.
Well, that makes no sense at all. Right. Right. You just, you're using that as a cudgel and
it's obvious. So anyway, so fair point, obviously, but I think we can focus on both.
Yeah, I totally agree. All right. Last thing, real quick, Ben Peck says, I think a lot of
this blind loyalties is why conservatives have targeted largely religious demographic, no one with more
blind faith than evangelicals.
So that cuts both ways, Ben, because I'm apparently obsessed with this thing that I read
this morning about brainwashing, because they said sometimes people's faith allows them
to not get tricked by the brainwasher, because it allows them to say this, I know that
this is reality.
Now my sense, that's not reality either, okay, but it helps them.
On the other hand, one of the key drivers as to whether you will be brainwashed.
or not is if you believe in a black and white world, right?
Did you know that, we got to talk more about this in the post game.
Doy.com slash join to get it, be a member, get the post game.
21 U.S. service members stayed in North Korea after the war because they got brainwashed.
They wanted to stay?
Yeah, because they got tortured and brainwashed into thinking that North Korea was awesome.
And they stayed and we never got them back.
That's insane.
Isn't that amazing?
Like I said, we'll talk more about it in the post.
All right, what's next?
All right.
During DeSantis's rally for his gubernatorial bid in Florida,
Donald Trump gave a speech, and he addressed a number of different things,
including voter ID laws.
These are laws that Republicans have been pushing for aggressively.
They've managed to pass these voter ID laws in some states.
And the whole point is to disenfranchise voters that typically don't vote for them.
People who are elderly or don't have driver's licenses because they don't drive.
People who are students from out of state, they usually tend to vote for Democrats and are
unlikely to have a state issued license because they're from a different state.
And so this has been an orchestrated effort to disenfranchise voters.
And Trump talked about the importance of voter ID laws, but gave an example that didn't make
much sense.
Take a look.
We believe that only American citizens should vote in American elections, which is why the time has come for voter ID, like everything else, voter ID.
If you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card.
You need ID.
You go out and you want to buy anything.
You need ID and you need your picture.
No, you don't.
So- You don't even get asked for your ID if you're using a credit card these days.
No, almost never.
Very, very rarely.
But so, but I'm amused by this so-called controversy because this is one of the issues
that brought down George H.W. Bush when he was running against Bill Clinton, because he didn't
know how the local, the theory was. And I never believed it and turned out, of course, as usual.
I'm not saying anything. I was right. Anyway, but the Democrats in that case twisted what he said
at a grocery store as him not understanding how a scanner works. And they were like, oh, my God,
and he doesn't know the price of milk. And he's so out of touch. Oh, the good old days.
when that was a scandal.
Okay, now this is like, doesn't even rank in his top 1,000 scandals.
That's such a great point, and you're right.
Look, I think more than anything, this shows how out of touch he is.
I mean, I don't know if he's ever purchased groceries for himself.
I mean, why would he?
But whatever.
I don't really care.
I mean, look, I didn't care when a Republican, like George H.
To be fair, I was a Republican back then, when George H.W. Bush did it.
But I also didn't care that FDR was incredibly wealthy.
He did amazing things for the American people.
It isn't about wealth.
The question is, are you trying to influence politics?
And how are you trying to influence politics?
So Trump's out of touch.
Are you kidding me?
He's out of touch with reality, let alone grocery stores.
Of course.
Yeah.
So, look, I'm giving him a complete pass on this.
The thing I don't give him a pass on is the actual substance of what he was saying.
Voter ID laws are meant to discriminate against voters that they,
think are more likely to be democratic.
For example, and this is a shocking fact, but unfortunately the rest of the media almost
never shares it with you to give you the proper context.
25% of African Americans in this country don't have driver licenses.
Why?
Well, some of them live in a lot of African Americans live in big cities where you don't need
a driver's license.
In New York City, you go by, you use public transportation, who would, who has enough money
to afford a parking spot in New York, right?
And a lot of folks aren't well.
healthy enough to have cars.
Yep.
And I know for the Republican voters or some of them, they're like, well, that doesn't compute,
that doesn't make sense.
I know it's out of your context, but believe it or not, other people live in other contexts.
Okay, right?
Yeah, I gotta address that as well.
Like the whole thing about driver's licenses, Millennials got a lot of heat in the media
because a lot of them, this is a couple years ago, did not have driver's licenses,
they did not get their driver's permit, they don't have vehicles, and the whole idea
The idea behind it was, they're so lazy, they don't even want to go get their drivers.
No, it's because they can't afford cars, right?
Like the economic situation has been dire for millennials.
Now, things have picked up a little bit, right?
But I love that you brought that up.
And by the way, there are still millennials who are struggling, right?
Because of the economic situation that they graduated into back in 2008.
One other thing I wanted to mention, there is some concern about our elections.
you know, being compromised, right? And that's by Russians who are attempting to meddle in
our elections. And I'm not just talking about the spread of fake news. I'm talking about their
efforts in hacking into voting systems across the country. And that's something that people
in his administration have owned up to, have acknowledged. Trump is completely delusional
about it or has an interest in denying that it's happening. But if you're really worried about,
our elections being compromised, that's what you should be concerned about.
So that's a great point.
His director of national intelligence, Dan Coates, and now even the head of his Department
of Homeland Security, who was a little reluctant before Kirsten Nielsen, has come out and said,
yes, the Russians are actively right now engaging in trying to affect our elections.
So if you're worried about voter fraud, the number one person you should be worried about,
According to even Trump's government is Vladimir Putin, not whether somebody has a driver's license or not.
And by the way, the case of actual voter fraud, the type they're talking about it is infinitesimely small, less than 1% of 1%.
Meanwhile, you've got a foreign government trying to break into our voting booth.
And he's like, oh, no, no, no, the Russia's strongly denied it.
They denied it, they strongly denied it.
But I'll give one last credit to the Trump and his people.
They have fun of those rallies.
It's like a wrestling event for them.
And then he does the walk around like a wrestler does, like after he makes a point that
he thinks is good, well, you need it for groceries, right?
And people are like, oh yeah, you need it for groceries.
Do we need it for groceries?
I don't think we need it.
Oh yeah, but you need it.
And they have a grand old time.
So one conservative commentator apparently today said, Trump is working so hard.
for us at those rallies.
Are you kidding me?
He's having the time of his life.
That's the only thing he likes doing as president.
It's depressing.
Okay.
You know what?
The next story is about conspiracy theories and conspiracy theorists.
It's also depressing.
So I feel like I need a little bit of a break.
No, no, no, that story's amazing.
If you guys haven't heard about Q&N, et cetera, or if you don't know the details, we're
going to break it down for you guys.
Don't miss it because I didn't know what it was.
Amazing!
Just when you thought, like, no way it gets crazier.
It can't get crazier.
It got way crazier.
So that's when we return.
Yeah, we're going to break it down, and then I'm going to have a breakdown.
We'll be right back.
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