The Young Turks - Trump Will Do ANYTHNG To Protect Saudis And Suspects In Jamal Khashoggi Case Identified

Episode Date: October 18, 2018

Trump refuses to admit the possibility that the Saudi royals ordered the arrest of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Saudi officials involved in the botched interrogation have been identified and their ties... to the royal family are disturbing.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Whoa, the Young Turks. I'm in a weird mood today. Nobody's dropping anything. They're scrambling in the control room.
Starting point is 00:00:23 They're like, wait, I were dropping that? Okay. People drop mics. We drop power panels. We drop panels, a whole panel. Anyways, so we were just talking about what's got us energized. Partly, Ojeda from yesterday, man. I talked about at the top of the show, but then we, in our post game that we did, which
Starting point is 00:00:48 actually just the whole Beto O'Rourke Ted Cruz debate. By the way, YouTube was down, and so a lot of you didn't get to watch it live. But members, we put it up about an hour after the debate immediately. So you guys had it last night, you can watch it tonight. The debate's super interesting. Our commentary, I think afterwards was by myself a little interesting as well. And when there we juxtaposed Beto to Ojeda at a little bit. And we had some fun doing it, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:14 TYT.com slash join, obviously, to become a member and get that special coverage for you guys. There it is, t.yt.com slash join. We do have a campaign going against Ted Cruz. It's off to an excellent start. I'll tell you about that a little bit later in the program. I wanted to note two things. Look, this Sunday, it's Tucker Carlson versus me at Politicon. It's going to be interesting, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:42 Yes, it is. So if you're anywhere near LA, go check it out and make sure you use the code TYT. When you go to Politicon.com to get tickets, politicon.com. Look, let's keep it real. We want a decent number of young turst folks in the audience. Yes, please come. Yeah. Like, just come, because if this year is going to be anything like last year, I don't know what
Starting point is 00:02:05 they do. I don't know if they bring in, like, buses full of their conservative fans from other states. I mean, look, there are conservatives in California to be fair, but, you know, there's a lot of like imitation tactics trying, you know, being played, which doesn't really work, but still. Like, it would be nice to have you guys there as well. Yeah, let's keep it real. So in previous years, we packed all. all the rooms.
Starting point is 00:02:29 And so seeing that, I think that the conservatives went out of their way last year to try to bring in as many people as possible. So let's make sure what our folks are there and have fun. Politicon.com, use the code, TYT, so we can communicate with you guys. And so that's gonna be Sunday night. And then Anna is on a couple panels. Let me give you the deets on those panels, okay? So I'm gonna be on two panels on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:02:57 One of them is going to be at 12.3rd, oh, that's fun. One of those panels is going to be at 1230 on Saturday, and the other panel is going to be at, I believe, 2 o'clock same day. One will be on Medicare for All. The other will be on socialism. So the socialism panel has a bunch of friends on there. Sam Cedar will be joining me. Kyle Kalinsky will be joining me.
Starting point is 00:03:21 For the Medicare for All panel, I believe I am the only person who supports Medicare for all. So that should be fun. That's a par for the course. Bill Crystal's on that panel. Bill Crystal, the Neo-Con is on that panel. That's interesting. But I love that you and Kyle are on a panel together.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Yeah. That's gonna be super fun. And Haas is debating Charlie Kirk one more time. We're calling it Uno Mas. Or Uno Haas. Oh, that's a good one. Uno Haas. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And so, and like as Kyle drivers on like 28 different panels uploading on. So you got it. Hopefully we'll see you guys there Saturday and Sunday in LA and then we'll have some clips up for you guys obviously at some point. And then the last thing real quick to mention at the top and then we'll get to the stories including the latest absurdities in the Saudi story is streamies. So two cool things here, one in the news category, you guys don't have to vote. That's the panel decides.
Starting point is 00:04:20 But two out of the five nominees are us. So one is the Young Turks for best news show of the year, not surprising. to others, The Breakdown. Udo Haas. Yeah, yep. You know what, though? Well deserved. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Hoss works really, really hard. That show is excellent, does really well on Facebook particularly. And I want to beat him, but I hope, you know, he does well, sort of. I hope they come in second. They're good kids. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, that's Hassan Piker and Francis Maxwell on The Breakdown. Please check that out.
Starting point is 00:04:56 remember, you get all these. And then, but the second thing we're up for is show of the year, not just news, but show of the year. And that's the one that your votes do matter. That's why the tweet on there is hashtag TYT for streamies. And the cool thing about that is all you have to do is just include a tweet, okay? Hashtag TYT for streamies, and the tweet is the vote. As long as it's got that hashtag in it, and you could vote once a day, so go nuts, okay?
Starting point is 00:05:25 What's the hell? I got to do that. Can I do that? Yeah, of course, you are allowed to do that. All right, so that'd be amazing if we want to show of the year for the entire internet. That would be badass. So thank you guys if you're participating in that. All right, what's next to Anna? All right.
Starting point is 00:05:40 We have updates on Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashukshi. Yes, I said his name differently because I have been corrected. It is not Khashoggi. But I feel like it's a little bit of the Obama-Pakistan thing. Yeah, I'm sticking with Khashoggi. Look, if you really want to be exactly right, it's actually a Turkish name, Khashikcha. Khashikshu. You know what it means?
Starting point is 00:06:03 It means one who makes spoons. Oh yeah, you did mention that before. Okay, but Khashoggi's fine. Okay, I'm gonna say Khashoggi just because I don't want to be thrown off as I'm presenting this story for you guys. Let's go. We have updates on the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi. Now, it has not been confirmed whether or not he has been murdered.
Starting point is 00:06:25 But it does appear that the Saudis are getting ready to claim some responsibility for it, not necessarily the royals, but they're going to push out some narrative indicating that it was an interrogation that had gone wrong and that the royals had nothing to do with it, which is ridiculous when we give you all the different updates that we've learned through the last 24 hours. Now, first, CNN shared some of the surveillance footage showing Jamal's. Khashoggi going into the consulate. And I want you to take a quick look at that. And then I'm going to give you some of Trump's reactions and how he has already started this narrative of
Starting point is 00:07:06 defending the Saudis. Saudi Arabia insists it is not responsible for Khashoggi's disappearance. This security footage shows the Washington Post columnist entering the Saudi consulate nearly two weeks ago. The Turkish government says it has audio evidence that proves he was murdered inside. The Saudis have yet to provide any evidence that shows Khashukji leaving the building. So CNN is absolutely right there. The Saudis keep saying like, no, no, no, he left the consulate. We had nothing to do with this. We don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:07:40 But they haven't provided any evidence. At the same time, Saudi officials who showed up on those chartered flights are now being identified and many of them are being identified as individuals who have very close ties to the Saudi royals. And not only did the Turkish authorities identify them, but the New York Times went out of its way to also independently verify them as well. And we're gonna give you the details on that. But before we get to all those details, Trump also had an interview with Fox Business, and during
Starting point is 00:08:12 that interview, he basically made it clear that he has a very cozy relationship with the Saudis. And so he doesn't know what happened, and we shouldn't be so quick to judge the Saudis. Take a look at the first clip. You did mention some of these deals. There's some arms deals at stake right now. In Saudi Arabia, they're having a big, big, it's called the Davos of the Desert Conference. And given the news out of that part of the world with the Washington Post columnist going into the embassy and never coming out, are you still going to send a delegation?
Starting point is 00:08:50 You're still going to send to- Well, what we have right now is Mike Pompeo, who's terrific, doing a great job, Secretary of State is with the king right now and the crown prince, literally as we speak, and we're trying to find out what went on. And a lot will be determined. He hasn't gotten back to me. He's going to probably over the next couple of hours sometime prior to your show. But he will be getting back to me, and you'll start hearing what is happening. Turkey's looking at it very strongly.
Starting point is 00:09:18 We're all looking at it together, but Turkey and Saudi Arabia are looking at it very strongly. And it depends whether or not the king or the crown prince knew about it, in my opinion. Number one would happen, but whether or not they knew about it. If they knew about it, that would be bad. So that one statement, if they knew about it, that would be bad, was probably the strongest statement that Trump had in response to the Saudis. The rest of the interview, he essentially talked about how important Saudi Arabia is as our ally.
Starting point is 00:09:48 And we'll get to those clips in a minute. But he did mention Mike Pompeo and how he had gone to Saudi Arabia to talk to. to officials there about what had happened. And in all of the images that we've seen and all of the footage that we've seen of his meetings, he seemed to be very friendly to them, which is fine because maybe behind the scenes there's some tough talk happening. But in his public statements, it makes it clear that Pompeo's Secretary of State has not been tough on the Saudis.
Starting point is 00:10:18 In fact, let me give you one of his statements, this is graphic four, he says, I could go on about the places that, no, graphic four, please. I could go on about the places that the Saudis and the U.S. are working together. The U.S. needs to make sure that we're mindful of that. Also on the same day that Mike Pompeo went to Saudi Arabia, the United States received $100 million from Saudi Arabia, and this money is supposedly meant to convince us to stabilize Syria, portions of Syria that ISIS previously took control. control of.
Starting point is 00:10:53 All right, so lots to get to here. First of all, on the $100 million that they just sent us, first, the Trump administration says, oh, heaven for fend, those things are not at all connected. Oh, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. They owed us this money for a long time, or we asked them for that money for a long time. They haven't to give it to us, just as Mike Pompeo is talking to them. It's the most obvious thing in the world, but please, please, don't insult our intelligence, Although that's what they do on a daily basis.
Starting point is 00:11:23 So, and I, before that news even came out, I had tweeted earlier in today about how, look, we all know what happened now. It's very, very clear. The only question is, what secret deals are the governments of US, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey going to strike? What's Turkey going to get? What's America going to get? And then how are they going to cover it up publicly afterwards?
Starting point is 00:11:43 Because that's what's happening right now. They're negotiating, right? And Turkey's like, we caught you, you're embarrassed, and they got a beef with Saudi Arabia. They want something. And by the way, the Turks gave us Pastor Brunson back. Also coincidentally at the same time, and they say, well, that one is also not at all connected. The Turkish government says, no, the Turkish judiciary is independent. They happen to release him at the same exact time that we were meeting with Mike Pompeo.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Then Pompeo goes over to Saudi Arabia and they release $100 million to the same. There's a lot of coincidences going around here. Look, so I know a lot of the mainstream media can't say it's obvious. They can just lay out the facts for you and hope you connect the dots. It's our job to connect the dots, and I can say it, it's obvious. They're negotiating behind the scenes, everybody's going to get paid, except you guys obviously. Then they will all come out with a united front on how to lie to you. And so the, it looks like they're settled on the lie of, well, okay, it's inconvenient
Starting point is 00:12:39 because Khashoggi is gone, he's dismembered and he's all, so we can't bring him back, so the Saturday's gonna, likely, according to the sources, stop lying that he was not killed, but say, oops, golly, gee, it was a rogue team. And that's why Trump has already said it might have been rogue killers. And as long as the crown prince and the king didn't know about it, so super easy, the crown prince and the king come out and go, well, God, we are shocked to find out that there are murders going on in Saudi Arabia. Well, this was obviously not authorized.
Starting point is 00:13:13 So was it not authorized? So I'm just going to give you, there's a million facts showing you. But let me just give you two of them that I think are dispositive. They had a bone saw with them. They sent a 15 person team with a bone saw. They say this is an interrogation that went awry. Why did you bring the bone saw if you were just going to question them? Number two, they brought a forensic doctor from Saturday Arabia, one of the top doctors
Starting point is 00:13:38 in the country in that field, connected to the Saudi government, that specialty is autopsies. Autopsies and dissection. And dissection. Yes. Okay, gee, I wonder if it was an accident or they planned that ahead of time. It's not like they're in a different country, they're in Turkey. It's not like, oh, the guy's dead. Hey, you want to bring the autopsy guy in and the bone saw in?
Starting point is 00:13:59 No, they brought the autopsy guy and the dissection guy and the bone saw with them. That's not a rogue operation. And now the New York Times has bothered to go connect many of the people that were in that group of 15 to very closely to the Saudi government. But to which I say, of course, of course they're connected. Do you think that operation gets authorized by the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Transportation? No, the Crown Prince authorizes that kind of insane, really risky operation in a different country. Of course.
Starting point is 00:14:36 So we have more clips from Trump that we'll get to in just a second. And I want to give you the details about those Saudi officials who did go to the consulate and have been identified. But this, if things play out the way that we're predicting they're going to play out, where you have three major countries striking some sort of deal to brush this under the rug, this sets an extremely dangerous precedent, right? This signals to everyone that if you have the audacity to criticize the U.S. government, well, maybe not the U.S. government for now, but if you have the audacity to criticize an ally
Starting point is 00:15:13 of the U.S. government, and that government somehow retaliates against you and possibly murders you, well, arms deals, financial connections, you know, foreign policy deals, whatever it is, those will, you know, serve as the reasons for why our government won't do anything to protect you or prevent it from happening in the future, right? And let's keep it real, there are only three countries that matter, okay, in terms of our allies, you can do anything you want to, Mexicans, Mexico's a huge ally of ours, nobody cares in the Trump administration, you can do anything you like to people in Canada, okay, but if, so, or if they do something wrong, we will call them out, no question.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I mean, Trump loves insulting Mexico anyway. But in the case of Saudi Arabia, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, there's a lot of money there. Israel, out of the question, you can, Israel can do anything they like, they will never be criticized, Okay, certainly not by the Trump administration. And number three is Russia. I mean, you know what Trump said about when Russia murdered someone in the UK? Trump said, well, it's not our country. That's the United Kingdom, that's our top ally.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I don't care about the ally, as long as my other ally, Russia, and that's not that it's the U.S. ally, it's just Trump's ally, is killing them. Or Trump's ally in Saudi Arabia is killing someone, he doesn't care, doesn't care at all. And why is it that he doesn't care? It always goes back to the money. In fact, he was very transparent about that while he was being interviewed on Fox business. Take a look. I do not want to do that.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And frankly, they have a tremendous order, $110 billion. Every country in the world wanted a piece of that order. We got all of it. And what are we going to do? I mean, I've had some senators come up and some congressmen. They said, well, you know, sir, I think what we should do is we should not take that order. I said, who are we hurting? It's 500,000 jobs.
Starting point is 00:17:08 be ultimately $110 billion, the biggest order in the history of our country from an outside military. And I said, we're going to turn that down. Why would we do that? So hopefully it's working out. We'll find out. We'll get down to the bottom of it. I hope that the king and the crown prince didn't know about it. So he's setting it up again. I hope they didn't know about it. Wink, they already know that that's going to be the excuse. And but you know, the money, money, money, money, money, money. That's all I care about. I mean, isn't that? sick. If you're a good Christian, I mean, did you ever read the sermon on the mouth?
Starting point is 00:17:42 Did you ever read about Jesus throwing out the money changers? This guy's obsessed with money. That's the only thing he cares about. Oh, you dismembered someone. Yeah, but how much money did you give me? I mean, think about how sick that thought is. It's extremely sick. And remember, when he frames things in the context of, oh, the Saudis are important because
Starting point is 00:18:05 of this weapons deal helps with jobs here in the United States. is not thinking about those things. He's not thinking about you. He's not thinking about providing jobs. It's all about wins for himself and financial deals for himself. And every once in a while, he slips up and doesn't say for the country or for the citizens. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-The Republic or UNFTR. As a young Turks fan, you already know that the government, the media, and corporations are constantly peddling lies that serve the interests of the rich powerful. But now there's a podcast dedicated to unraveling those lies, debunking the conventional wisdom. In each episode of Un-B-The-Republic or UNFTR, the host delves into a different
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Starting point is 00:19:41 So search for UNFDR in your podcast app today and get ready to get informed, angered, and entertained all at the same time. He says straight up for me, and here's an example of that. So Saudi Arabia, and they have, I can only say I've been here for almost two. years, they've been a great ally to me. To me, they're investing tremendous amounts of money. He can't help himself. To me, he said it twice. Sometimes he's just accidentally honest, because he doesn't know any better.
Starting point is 00:20:17 That's why I say he's so unintelligent, because a more savvy person would be better at lying, right? So he's got a pathological need to lie and he does on every issue, including on the jobs. Just no hundreds of thousands of jobs being created by that kind. contract, that's a total fabrication, as usual. But other times, like when he said, oh, why'd you fire come me? Because he was investigating me. You're not supposed to say that, you schmuck, but he can't help himself.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And here in Saudi Arabia, they're good to me. So let's talk about why they're good to him. So and about the money, during the campaign, I'm sorry, in January of this year, Trump had said, I would want to protect Saudi Arabia. He said, but Saudi Arabia is going to have to help us economically. Okay, so that's about, you know, the country. The country. And here, he struck that exact deal.
Starting point is 00:21:11 You give me $100 million for Syria and I give you whatever excuse you want and you could murder any journalist you like, okay? And so that's brazen. And then of course there's the issue of his own personal enrichment. And there, he registered eight companies in Saudi Arabia during his campaign. That's pretty nice. The Saudis then after he won transferred all their hotel. rooms from other hotels, the Trump properties, and you might think, oh, well, that's, you know,
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Starting point is 00:22:12 The Saudis like to use some hotels. That's just a little tasty taste, though. Just a little tasty taste of the type of financial relationship or financial ties Trump has had with the Saudis. In fact, some of his ties go back to 2001. In June of 2001, when he sold the 44th floor of the Trump World Tower to the King of Saudi Arabia for $4.5 million. There's also a more recent example where he specifically said of the Saudis at a 2015 campaign
Starting point is 00:22:44 rally in Mobile, Alabama, they buy apartments for me, they spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much. That's in 20, as he's running for president in 2015, he said, at the same time he's saying, We've got to ban all Muslims, right? Until we figure out what the hell is going on. But apparently with the Saudis, he figured out what the hell was going on. They greased them.
Starting point is 00:23:09 They give him a lot of money. So he's like, oh, the Saudis, I got that figured out. They gave me $40 to $50 million. What am I supposed to do? And I like them. Well, yeah, okay, you like them. But then how about when they killed the journalist and then dismembered them? Dismembered them.
Starting point is 00:23:23 What were you scared about with the Muslims? You were scared about like crazy fundamentalists, the Saudi government, doing crazy things like torturing, murdering and dismembering people, the Saudis. Yeah, but they gave me a lot of money. Remember how good they treated me. So I don't care. I like them. So now Trump is going around the country, lying on behalf of the Saudis.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And he's going to lie even more, and they're all going to cover it up. And they're going to pretend that somehow the bone saw and the autopsy doctor accidentally wound up on the flight. And all the guys that are right next to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salma. on all these different trips that are part of his top security personnel, golly gee, was unauthorized. That is the lie that Donald Trump is saying now and will definitively say very soon, and you'll see it with your own eyes.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Hey, look, that's why I love saying things ahead of time. If you're a MAGA guy right now and you're going, no way, I bet Donald Trump stands up to those Muslims, I bet he fights back and calls him out for what it is. He's really trying to figure out what the hell is going on right now. No, Donald Trump's selling out for money. He would never do that. Okay, go ahead. Let's see how it turns out.
Starting point is 00:24:34 All right, well, I'm going to shift gears just a little bit very quickly to give you what I promised the identification of these Saudi officials. Both Turkish investigators and the New York Times separately did an investigation to look into the 15 Saudi officials who arrived to the Saudi consulate in Turkey on. chartered flights and what they did was find evidence that a lot of these officials are actually very closely tied to the Saudi royals so to give you some examples let's go to graphic five one of the suspects identified by Turkey in the disappearance of the Saudi dissident Khashoggi was a frequent
Starting point is 00:25:20 companion of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman three others are linked by witnesses and other records to the Saudi Crown Prince's security detail, and a fifth is a forensic doctor who holds senior positions in the Saudi interior ministry and medical establishment. He has done extensive work and has published writings in regard to dissection and mobile autopsies, and it's curious that he would show up with these Saudi officials to the Saudi consulate in Turkey. Also, the presence among the suspects of an autopsy expert suggests that killing might
Starting point is 00:26:02 have been part of the original plan. And that's an important detail to keep in mind because the Saudis, based on reports that were first done by CNN based on anonymous sources, indicated that the Saudis were preparing to release a statement indicating that the royals didn't know anything about this, but the death of Khashoggi was the result of a botched interrogation. Now, why was he being interrogated in the first place? We don't know, they haven't given us an answer, and they haven't, to be fair, they haven't come out with that prepared statement yet, and who knows if they really will.
Starting point is 00:26:41 But if they do plan on coming out with that statement, the identification of these officials would certainly go counter to whatever narrative they're trying to push. So let's break down another part of this as we dissect, if you will, what happened here. So we know parts of the deal already. So the three governments, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and the US are making a deal. And then they're all going to lie to you. We all know what happened. Anna just laid it out for you guys.
Starting point is 00:27:12 They're clearly from the highest levels of the government. They clearly brought murder weapons to Turkey. They stayed for one day. It was a hit team. Now, with all the exhaustive reporting on it, there's no question left. And so the only question left is, what's the secret deal in order to do the cover-up? The Saturday Arabia is not going to come out and say, yeah, we dismembered him because we're monsters.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And America is not going to say, and Donald Trump has said it a million times. Well, I like the money they're giving me. I like the $110 billion deal that we have with them. I like that they give me money for my apartments, et cetera, et cetera. So he's not going to turn around and say, okay, I'm done with the Saudis. That's never going to happen. So we know so far what the Saudis are going to get. They're going to get a cover up.
Starting point is 00:27:54 That's very important to them because they got a huge economic summit coming up and they want outside investors into the country and they can't have it if we have sanctions against them, if we sever our relationship. So they're going to get to maintain the relationship and they're going to get a cover. Now we know what the US has gotten so far. The Saudis has sent $100 million to the US in order to help with Syria, okay? So that's just a bribe. And then the US also got something from Turkey.
Starting point is 00:28:21 They got Pastor Brunson, which Turkey was holding, and they say that's a coincidence. Obviously it's not. The only thing we don't know yet is what is Turkey going to get in the deal? Because they're the ones who have the evidence. That's right. And they just sent in that forensic team into the consul and they say they've got DNA, et cetera. They have the audio recordings.
Starting point is 00:28:39 And what they're holding out for is I could release the audio recordings. Why didn't they release it yet? Because they're holding it in their back pocket for leverage, right? And that team, they're going to have the evidence from that team. So if we're right about this, and I guarantee you that we are, whether it's public or not, soon Turkey will get a gigantic prize from Saudi Arabia, okay? And so that's how this deal is done. And Donald Trump will bless it all and everybody will go on in their merry lives except
Starting point is 00:29:09 for, of course, the people who were murdered. The person in this case is Khashoggi and obviously his family members will be outraged. Meanwhile, let's also note the hypocrisy of Donald Trump during the campaign. He said, I cannot believe that the Clinton Foundation is taking money from the Saudis. Well, he had been taking money from the Saudis for decades, right? In the form of deals and, you know, just business dealings. And one other thing I wanted to quickly mention, if all of that wasn't evidence enough for you, the identification of all these Saudi officials, there was one other important piece
Starting point is 00:29:44 of evidence that was outlined in the Times piece, and it talked about those two private planes or jets. So records show that two private jets chartered by a Saudi company with close ties to the Saudi crown prince and interior ministry arrived and left Istanbul on the day of Mr. Khashoggi's disappearance. So that's yet another piece of evidence. I think it's become abundantly clear what really happened to him. And what I'm curious about is whether or not the Republicans who have gone on the record to
Starting point is 00:30:18 criticize the Saudis are going to now backtrack and pretend like this is all okay and nothing really happened. They will. And that leads us to the last part of the puzzle, okay? There's a fourth country that no one talks about, it is not, you're not allowed to talk about it, it's talked about in code words, and that's Israel. So wait, what do they have to do with it? Well, Trump talked about, well, the Saudis help us with Iran.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Now, we had a perfectly good deal with Iran and the rest of the world did in ending their nuclear program, et cetera. Trump ripped that up. But right now we don't have any open hostility with Iran, but Israel does. Israel hates, and understandably so, that they fund Hezbollah and Hamas, which works against Israel. So Israel, and this is all public knowledge, the Netanyahu has gone to the United Nations, has come to the U.S. and say, Israel is a ticking time bomb. I'm sorry, Iran is a ticking time bomb.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And America, you have to attack, you have to attack, you have to attack Iran, right? So when they say Iran, that's a code word in Washington for be cool, Israel says Saudi Arabia is okay, because they work with us against Iran, okay? And then Mike Pompeo said this, that Anna referred to a little bit earlier in the show. I could go on about the places that the Saudis and the U.S. are working together to make sure that, and that we, the U.S. needs to be, quote, make sure that we're mindful of that. What do you mean the places that the Saudis and the U.S. are working together and that how everybody should be mindful of that?
Starting point is 00:31:49 You know what that means? That means, hey, everybody'd be cool. And remember, Israel's allies with Saudi Arabia, and together they're fighting against Iran. So that's your code words. Now, if I am right, what will happen with those tough guy Republican senators? Lindsay Graham, Marco Rubio, are two notable critics of what's been going on with Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 00:32:09 They'll make a little bit more noise, and then by a week later, all of a sudden it'll die down and there'll be no more talk of sanctions or ending our relationship or stopping the funding of the war in Yemen that Saudi Arabia is doing, all of a sudden all those tough guys will melt away because they should be mindful of where Saudi Arabia and us are working together, wink. And if I'm wrong, they won't. They'll be lions and they'll come out. And so far they've been strong and we're giving them credit for that.
Starting point is 00:32:39 If I'm wrong, they'll continue and they'll say, no, we demand that you end a relationship and they'll take congressional action. Good luck, let's see if I'm right or wrong. That's why I love telling you ahead of time. And I'll tell you right now, they ain't gonna take no congressional action. They're going to be mindful of what certain allies want them to do. We gotta take a quick break. When we come back, Mitch McConnell is very clear about how he's coming after your Medicare
Starting point is 00:33:05 and Social Security. All right, back on the Young Turks. God, there's so many great comments here, and I've got to tell you so many things. So real quick, let's go to YouTube super chat first. K.F. writes, and I won the T.Y.T. Politicon contest, but can't go due to high flight prices from Hawaii to L.A. Aww, come on the upside, you live in Hawaii. Real.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And he, so he says, here's a donation instead. Been watching for 12 years and a proud wolf Pack member, love you guys, wolf dash pack.com, thank you. And Mahalo Nui, Keha-U-A-Lani-Banene. All right, sounds fun. Okay, I did the best I could on the names, but Mahalo to you as well. Elliot makes a good point on YouTube super chat. Also, if it wasn't the Royals, then why did they come out and deny it at first, saying he left from a back door?
Starting point is 00:34:00 Yes, I mean, their story keeps changing. Come on. Interesting. They said they knew. They knew he was alive. I just want to know why they think it's a good idea to have released a statement saying that it was an interrogation gone wrong without like specifying why he'd be interrogated. Yeah, because they know the U.S. is going to cover for us.
Starting point is 00:34:21 It's irrelevant what we say. We can say the aliens did it and they'll get Alex Jones to go, it was, it was an alien life force, and we're done with it. Oh, a point that I wanted to make was, look, there was so much drama. and debate regarding Alex Jones getting blocked from social media. Like, no one murdered him. He didn't go into a consulate to get a document to get married. Like he's still alive, he's still crazy as hell, he's doing his thing, okay?
Starting point is 00:34:47 He's just not allowed on these platforms. But everyone was paying attention. With this, like where's the outrage about this? I mean, there are some people, those who are paying attention, but it's not like a huge national story that everyone's talking about. No, Ben Shapiro will not stop talking about freedom of the press. Anyway, I don't know what Ben's position on that is to me. All right, Sartorial Narwhal in our member section says, Saudi Arabia is a monarchy.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Government agents don't go off the reservation on something this big without getting a nod from the monarch. That's exactly right. Gabby Marita says the two Gulfstream aircraft used by the rogue killers who killed Khashogia registered to Sky Prime Aviation Services, a charter company owned by Mohammed bin Salman. You've got to be willfully ignorant to think the Saudi Royals don't have fingerprints all over this. Of course, of course they do, and that is exactly what they are willfully ignorant. Last one is Mary in the, or Marie, in the members section, I love the Ojeda commercials so much I watched them all again today.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Imagine how much he would terrify Trump. No, no, a lot of people have been imagining it. I really watched them last night and I've now watched them four times, okay? So if you're a member, go back to the beginning of yesterday's show or the end of the Beto Ted Cruz debates to see us having fun with those. You know what, let me actually, if you remember one more thing, TYT Classics is back. You guys asked for it, it's back by popular demand. I think tonight we're doing, Ben and I talking about Senator Obama back in 2006, because
Starting point is 00:36:22 this show is ancient and we were on the air at the time. Did you know we're the longest running show on the internet? I can't, I don't know why I'm the only one who thinks that's super cool. I think that's like the coolest thing ever. Anyway, so Anna and I are going to do TYT Classics. You guys will see that tomorrow if you're members, okay? We're taping it tonight, I think, and up tomorrow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:43 If I'm not mistaken, t.com slash join to become a member and get all that programming. Whose side was I on, whose side was Ben on on the Obama debate back when he was a senator? All right, and the last thing is Ted Cruz. So mentioned the Cruz-O'Rourke debate. We are running an ad against Ted Cruz. We started it yesterday, and I want to show you the ad in this, tell you how you can participate. It's short and it's fun. Let's watch.
Starting point is 00:37:10 This is Ted Cruz. That's him phone banking for Donald Trump after Trump called his wife ugly. Look at him. What kind of a man does that? Oh yeah, Trump also said his father was probably a murderer. He made calls on behalf of Trump after being unmanned by him. You're looking at the saddest man in America. Ted Cruz 2018, pathetic.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Some people say that that was unsophisticated. Oh, come on. I agree, I agree. Politics is not that sophisticated. All right, so tyt.com slash cruise to donate to run that ad. So we're trying to get to $10,000 to at least start running it on Facebook. Obviously all in the state of Texas. Maybe we'll sprinkle it into Washington, D.C. a little bit, get them a little agitated.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Anyway, did we get to 10,000? Let's take a look. We got the thermometer. Sorry, 14,413 already. Oh, my God. Okay. Wow. So here's what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:38:11 So 10,000 on Facebook, if we get to 20,000 since you guys blew past the target immediately in under like 12 hours, I think it was. Oh, my God. Okay. We'll go, the next 10,000, we'll go to YouTube ads in Texas against Ted Cruz. Yeah. If we keep going, maybe we'll do TV ads. We'll do as many ads as you guys want to do, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So this topic made me think of a postgame topic that I want to discuss. Are we having a post game today? Yeah, right? Yeah, okay. The topic of masculinity, yeah, so it's, there's a disagreement between me and my husband that would shock you. Oh, a shocking disagreement, fascinating. He doesn't even know that the disagreement exists because I've-
Starting point is 00:38:57 I've bit my tongue. Interesting. Interesting. Okay, I'm looking forward to it. All right, guys, TYT.com slash join, become a member, get the post game, TYT Classics and all that stuff. Support the show so we can do unsophisticated ads against Andrews. Okay, there's another way to support the show, by the way.
Starting point is 00:39:16 If you're already a member, t.com slash yes, it's right next to the member's comment section, okay? You don't have to be a member either, but if you're on TYT.com, okay? So it's a big blue button. And if you like what we say, go, you could throw in a buck, you could $27, whatever, right? If you like what we're up to. Okay, thank you guys. All right, what's next?
Starting point is 00:39:34 All right. Mitch McConnell was a huge advocate for the massive tax cuts that these corporations have recently gotten to enjoy. And he also is very concerned about the deficit, which is interesting because usually Republicans only care about the deficit when there's a Democrat in charge. But let's hand it to McConnell. He is concerned about the deficit. So what is he planning on doing?
Starting point is 00:40:02 Does he realize that maybe these taxes are a really bad idea? Does he realize that according to the Congressional Budget Office, it will add $1.9 trillion to the national debt over the next decade? Is he going to reverse course? No, he wants to do something else. Take a look. What's going on with the debt? It's very disturbing, and it's driven by the three big entitlement programs that are very
Starting point is 00:40:25 very popular. Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. That's 70% of what we spend every year. The subject we were just discussing, the funding of the government, is about 30% of what we spent. There's been a bipartisan reluctance to tackle entitlement changes because of the popularity of those programs. Hopefully, at some point here, we'll get serious about this. We haven't been yet. So, it's over, but nonetheless, the mainstream media will continue to drive me crazy by calling things even and going, well, it's unclear who wants to cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. He just said it.
Starting point is 00:41:04 He said, we have to, those are the, that's the real problem in the deficit, and we have to get serious about it. That means we have to cut it. That means if the Republicans maintain power in the House and the Senate, they will definitely, that's their leader in the Senate. They will definitely go to cut Social Security and Medicare. Nonetheless, the mainstream press will go. Well, Democrats say this, Republicans say that.
Starting point is 00:41:28 No, he just said it. They've said it a million times. So look, we have the TYT Army. I don't think we use you guys enough. This is another one we're gonna ask for your help. TYT.com slash Army to join up. There's a couple thousand of you guys. You need to let anyone in the press who's making that mistake know.
Starting point is 00:41:45 The leader of the Republicans in the Senate has said that they are targeting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. It is absolutely clear. And so if you elect Republicans, that is what you're going to get. They are going to cut those programs. He just told you. Yes, and this is another example of how crucial these midterm elections really are. Because if Republicans have their way and they still control both the House and the Senate,
Starting point is 00:42:13 They will cut these programs, these programs that you've paid into, these programs that you can look at your paycheck and realize exactly how much money the federal government takes away from you every single time to help fund these programs. You paid into it. That's why it's an entitlement. You are entitled to Social Security. You are entitled to Medicare once you're eligible for those programs. And the fact that they want to go after that, after they just went on this nationwide tour,
Starting point is 00:42:43 about cutting the corporate tax rate from 35% to 20, 25%. 21%. I'm like, wait a minute, was it 21%. We've talked about it so many times on this show, and every single time it shocks me, 21%, and that's not even the effective corporate tax rate, because remember, they have not closed those corporate tax loopholes. We did that story about how Jared Kushner has quintupled his net worth over the last decade, but for several years has not paid anything in federal taxes.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Why? Well, because there's a massive loophole that Trump actually further expanded, right, that allows him to claim that his properties have depreciated in value. So he gets to deduct from his tax. No, this is not okay. That's the problem. These entitlement programs are not the problem. Look, I don't care what your political leaning is.
Starting point is 00:43:38 If you watch the Young Turks, you heard us say ahead of time that they would do the huge tax cuts for the rich, and then they would turn around and say, oh, well, we've got a problem with the deficit, so we've got to cut Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid. We told you that ahead of time, and here it is, they put a $1.9 trillion extra hole in our debt, okay, created that much more deficit. And now Mitch McAllot-Jose around and says, no, let's take it from you guys. You put money into Social Security and Medicare? Let's rob you, because the average guy in the top 1% got a tax cut worth.
Starting point is 00:44:13 $61,000 a year. $61,000 a year. So now we've got to come after your Social Security and Medicare. You saw it with your own eyes. You saw us predicted. You saw them do the tax cut. You saw it go mainly to the rich. At TYT, we frequently talk about all the ways that big tech companies are taking control
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Starting point is 00:45:36 You see it with your own eyes. Now, if you're a Republican or a conservative, comfortable with that, okay, fine, and at least you've made your decision and you made it with no armed with the information you needed. But I think for the rest of us, that is an absolute outrage. You work your whole life to put a little bit of money into Social Security and Medicare. You need that desperately when you retire. I mean, look, the drug prices alone are going to kill you.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I mean, Medicare does a great job of covering a lot of things, but it doesn't cover all the drug prices, right? Right. And that alone is going to swamp you because we still have private health. insurance. And this guy say, no, my rich donors don't have enough, but you have too much. Not only that, get a load of this. At the same time, they're pushing for tax cuts 2.0. They say that if they win the House and the Senate, they're going to come back and do another round of tax cuts. You know how much that would give to the top 1%? Another $40,000. Another $40,000 a year.
Starting point is 00:46:38 They'd be up to over $100,000 a year in tax cuts per year. One of the tax cuts that they're planning on proposing and passing if they do control Congress is doing like this, let's say you have properties that you're about to inherit from your parents or something or anything. They're gonna change the estate tax to basically count the value of those properties at the purchase price from decades ago. Obviously, the value of these properties has gone up tremendously. And so it's another way of saving taxes for the wealthy, right?
Starting point is 00:47:15 Saving in taxes for the wealthy. Look, it's a really bad idea, and it's also terrifying because I do see a portion of the country that is barely in the middle class, very close to, you know, not even being counted in the middle class, saying that privatizing their retirement would be a better idea. You think that's a good idea? And by the way, if we didn't have Social Security and you're just reliant on saving money and putting it in the stock market, we see the kinds of games that are being played in the stocks, right?
Starting point is 00:47:49 Like we see what's happening with these corporations doing corporate stock buybacks, artificially inflating the value of the shares. I mean, that would be a nightmare. It's scary to think what these Republicans want to do and will do, again, if they control Congress after the midterms. They say, I'm biased if I say that the Republicans are corrupt. No, it's a fact. It's a fact.
Starting point is 00:48:11 They do exactly what their donors tell them to do, which is give me the tax cuts and rob the average American. That is what you're seeing with your own eyes. So, yeah, the bias position is to call it even. It ain't goddamn even. It's definitely the lazy position, too. So luckily, Americans are paying attention to all of this. In fact, the tax cuts are not popular. And as a result, we have some lawmakers who are avoiding even talking about the tax cuts as
Starting point is 00:48:41 they're campaigning, either for reelection or elections. So we're gonna give you that story when we come back from our break. We've gotta take a quick break, but I love this next story. It's so interesting, you don't wanna miss it. And one more thing, guys. The story that I love, of course we like all of them, that's why we picked them, but is we're gonna show you three different Democrats. and the difference in strength in those three.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And it doesn't even include OJeta, okay, if we put in OJetta, he'd break the meter, okay. Can we bring him in? Maybe we should, all right, all right, anyway, we'll do that a little bit later in the show. I don't want you to miss that because it gives you a great sense of the political spectrum within the Democratic Party. All right, we'll be right back. We hope you're enjoying this free clip from The Young Turks. If you want to get the whole show and more exclusive content while supporting independent media,
Starting point is 00:49:32 Become a member at t-y-t.com slash join today. In the meantime, enjoy this free segment. All right, I'm back on the young Turks. Comments first. Let's go to Twitter. MellyBitch writes in, Social Security already isn't enough to live on. My family of two disabled adults and one child lives off of just over $1,000 a month. What's left to cut?
Starting point is 00:49:54 Jeez, I know. Think about that. A thousand dollars a month. How are you supposed to live on that? And they want to cut it. And they give $61,000 a year to the rich. It's unreal. And then EDOT 2002, right, saying, there's a solution, repeal the tax cuts.
Starting point is 00:50:12 They're saying this because they're trying to get rid of Social Security and Medicare. So they're outraged to get us to say, well, we'll go to the deficit. We'll get the deficit down. And I guess I'll give up my money. And he says, not going to happen with me. Look, guys, this shouldn't happen with any of you. And so I got to tell you, if you watch our coverage last night, if you remember, of the Beto versus beta debate.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Beto, man, he sometimes used milk toast. He talked about, oh, we'll move the corporate taxes back up to 26%. Yep. Why only 5%. Why only 5%? No, move it back to 35% where it was and then close the loopholes. Okay? Why are we?
Starting point is 00:50:51 No, no, I'm tired of that. I'm tired of it. No, if there, look, we're going to get to pick a Democrat in 2020, okay? pick the one with balls, pick one who's going to fight back to the maximum, whoever it is. Or ovaries that fight back to- That's right, that's proverbial. So whether it's Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren or whoever else, pick the one that says, God damn right, we're going to take all those tax cuts back, okay? Not the ones like, no, not any da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Anyway, to the member's comments, Pam says, look, any problem with Social Security is an easy problem to fix. Just make the rich pay the same percentage of Social Security taxes as everyone else. Jank, I can show you the math. Just let me show you. I'm a CPA. Pam, I appreciate it, but I've already seen the math. And Bernie Sanders talks about it all the time. You're absolutely right. So the Social Security payroll tax, Medicare payroll tax, is capped at around $120,000, a little above that, okay? And then after that, the rich don't pay it at all. What the hell? That's insane. It's the most regressive tax we have. That's why they keep cutting the corporate taxes and actually piling onto the payroll tax
Starting point is 00:52:03 and then cutting the thing that you paid into. It's total reverse Robin Hood wealth redistribution to the rich. Okay, Gruga writes in, they try to make entitlement a dirty word as if we should be ashamed to use them. That's right. 100% right. And the last one is, Dallamori says, I think the cruise ad plays to an underspoken truth. Conservatives don't care about policy or hypocrisy or lying.
Starting point is 00:52:27 They hear about emotional orthodoxy. How well this candidate supports their feelings of them being right? The ad takes square aim at that principle. And even if it doesn't speak to us liberals, it will speak loudly to conservatives. Yes. Exactly right, Dolomori. That's why we did it that way. Because you're not trying to win over more liberals in Texas.
Starting point is 00:52:46 You're trying to win over independence of some conservatives. And the way you do that is by unmanning him. And so, and for a liberal that makes you uncomfortable, oh, no, don't do that. What does that even mean unmanning? Oh, no, la, la, la, la. Well, I'm not trying to get your votes. We've got to win that seat and we've got to get that vile snake Ted Cruz out. And the way you do that is by undermining his masculinity.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I'm keeping it real. That's how you do it, okay? Yeah. So, t.com slash cruise. And by the way, in your effort to undermine his masculinity, your best friend was Ted Cruz. He already did it for you. All you got to do is point it out. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Pathetic. Okay. All right. What's next, Anna? The massive tax cuts for the wealthy never played well with the American people. Even before they were passed, polling indicated that more Americans actually opposed these tax cuts than wanted them, accepted them, approved of them. And so now we have certain members of the GOP running for election, re-election, who just
Starting point is 00:53:51 Don't want to talk about the tax cuts because it's not playing so well with their constituents and a prime example of that is Representative Peter Roskim from Illinois now he is the architect of the tax cuts that were recently passed by Republicans which of course went into effect this year But he is not mentioning it at all in any of his ads Roskim has yet to air a single ad touting the law he helped craft his child his child Challenger, though, businessman Sean Caston is now on the air slamming him for the legislation, and we have an example of that. So let's take a look at the video.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I'm Sean Casten, and I approve this message. There's no disputing Peter Roscombe's link to Donald Trump as the author of Trump's tax plan that gave $1 trillion in tax breaks to big corporations and the top 1%, adding nearly $2 trillion to the deficit. And to pay for all this, they want to send the bill to America's seniors cutting Social Security and Medicare. tax breaks for corporate special interest. Illinois families get stuck with a bill. Roscombe and Trump together 94% of the time hurting Illinois families. That ad is 100% accurate. It is, it is.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And the district that they're having this race in is a fascinating district. We'll get to the details of that in just a second. But what was Roskim's response to these attack ads? I love it. My opponent has really embraced the politics of ridicule. He's fallen into this trap of Republican name calling. I love that. He's toast.
Starting point is 00:55:27 So, Roscombe, the Republican, is doing what weak-sost Democrats normally do. Oh, I'm not with them. I'm not with them. He's calling it Republican name-calling, even though he's a Republican, right? Oh, and he's complaining about being bullied. This is a classic way that Democrats lose. So Roscombe, thank you very much. We appreciate your weakness.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And what you're doing is reinforcing Kasten's framing, which is the number one. mistake the Democrats normally make, and he's making it, wonderful. My favorite part is when he called Kasten too aggressive. Oh, is he too aggressive in calling out what you're actually doing? Exactly, exactly. You are the architect of this tax plan, and it's been a disaster for the very people that you're supposed to be representing. So that's the interesting thing.
Starting point is 00:56:17 So, this district is predominantly white and also upper middle class. Most people make at least six figures. And it used to be dominated by Republicans. Just to give you an example, Mitt Romney won this district by an eight point margin in 2012, but Trump lost it by seven in 2016. And part of the reason why he lost it, Trump did, is because the people in the area are actually socially liberal, but they're also fiscally conservative. They're legitimately fiscally conservative.
Starting point is 00:56:51 So they don't like these tax cuts. And let's keep it real, Illinois does have a higher state tax. And the people living in this district are worried that this is actually going to increase their taxes because the new tax plan caps the amount that you can deduct in state taxes. No, no, Roscoe's toast. I mean, if- Gone. Normally, this is the kind of thing that the Democrats would bungle and it would drive me crazy because it's a layup.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I mean, if Hillary won it by seven points, there's no reason why a Democrat should lose it in 2018. But even more so, the phenomenon that Anna just talked about, well, they're normally fiscally conservative, it might like the tax cuts and they might think, I'd rather have the money and I don't care if the Republicans are terrible people to other human beings, right? It'll outweigh, but not anymore for two reasons. is this particular tax cut actually raises taxes in Illinois, New York, New Jersey, and California.
Starting point is 00:57:47 So they wanted to punish the blue states, oops, okay? So those fiscal conservative guys who goes, wait, wait, I just got robbed. My taxes went up and you hate gays and blacks and all these things that I don't agree with, right? And so that's the second phenomenon. They're highly educated in that district vis-a-vis the rest of the country. So it makes them very uncomfortable. Like before when it was dog whistles, if you give them enough tax cuts, they could get past the dog whistles.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Now when it's a bullhorn saying we hate Muslims and Latinos and we got massive issues with blacks and gays, et cetera, they go, man, it's churning my stomach, I can't vote for these monsters and you raise my taxes, I'll see you, wouldn't want to be you. And that's why now Roscombe is crying and crying about how Caston is too aggressive. Yeah. One more break, and when we come back, we are going to compare Democratic candidates from weakest to strongest. Oh, that's going to be a fun game. Stick around, brothers and sisters. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work, listen to ad-free, access members, only bonus content, and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at apple.com at apple.com slash t-y-t. I'm your host, Shank Huger, and I'll see you soon.

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