The Young Turks - Trump's Enemy List - September 26, 2025

Episode Date: September 27, 2025

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See my team! Bexie! Bexie! Drop it. Drop it. Welcome one and all to the power panel here at TYT. Jank is out. I am here.

And we've got something that I don't think we've ever had before. I think this is the first time that myself, we've got Waz, Waz, welcome, Ramesh, welcome back, albeit not together in the same room. And I don't know if we've ever had this particular power panel before, but I am excited for it. So thank you to both of you for being here. And especially you were managed because we got a tech story coming up later on that I'm going to need your help to sort out the significance of. So I'm looking at my chops, man. I'm looking my chops on that way. I'm glad. I'm glad. Well, we've got a lot of interesting news to talk about here domestically,

the continued weaponization of the DOJ. More drama coming out. of the UN and I'm not talking about escalator gate, the biggest scandal in American history. No, we're talking about Benjamin Netanyahu's speech that some people were in the room for and a whole lot more besides. We've got more ice brutality. And then we're going to be closing out the hour talking about Gen Z and the new allegations that they might be unemployable coming from hiring managers. So we're going to have a fun talk. And we made sure that this conversation about the Future Prospects of Gen Z includes three people who are at best Millennials. Yeah, millennial, yeah.

Excuse me. Lighting. I look at. Any professor is an old fogey, huh? Exactly. That's done. But anyway, a lot of fun stuff to talk about. So definitely get your comments in during the social breaks.

We'll be responding to those. But with all that said, why don't we jump into our first topic starting with this? My family and I have known for years that, that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump. But we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant, and she's right. But I'm not afraid.

My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent. So let's have a trial. That right there is, of course, the former FBI director James Comey back when career professionals headed up the FBI rather than like podcasters and children's book authors. But he is defiant in the face of the indictment, the continued weaponization of the U.S. government to go after Donald Trump's perceived enemies. And Donald Trump is very happy about this. Not a lot of other people are, but he seems to think it's great news. and timely news, considering that just a couple of days ago, he either intentionally or

accidentally ordered the head of the DOJ, Pam Bondi, one of his personal lawyers, to go after James Comey. You might recall this true social message going out saying, Pam, I've reviewed over 30 statements in post saying that essentially same old story as last time, I'll talk, no action, nothing is being done. What about Comey? Adam Shifty Shift, Letitia, they're all guilty as But nothing is going to be done. We can't delay any longer. It's killing our reputation and credibility. They impeached me twice and indicted me five times over nothing justice must be served. So he put that out and in about the same time as it took the head of the FCC to get Jimmy Kimmel taken off the air. Now Jim Comey is being indicted. And that's that was an amazing post. Not only that it seemed to be a DM that he accidentally tweeted or maybe not, but just like if you take him serious. there, what he's saying is he's reading posts and that's all it takes for him to go after Jim Comey, because some people tweeted it, I guess. And also, our reputation and credibility are

being destroyed because we haven't gone after a guy that hasn't had government power in like six years. And we're going to go after him, as you'll see, for our perception that he might have lied in the least recognizable political scandal of our lifetimes. That's what his reputation is being destroyed over. Dude, I think it might be the Epstein files, actually. But this is a good distraction, at least for a few minutes. So let's jump into it. Comey has now been criminally charged with two felonies, giving false statements and obstruction of a congressional proceeding. And both are tied to a September 30th, 2020 testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee. In that, he's being indicted for lying to Congress related to the FBI's

Arctic Hayes leak investigation. And I don't need to remind you all about the Arctic Hayes leak investigation because I don't remember any more of it than you probably do. What the hell is that? Literally, does anyone was Arctic haze? Does that ring a bell? I'm pretty sure that's a Mountain Dew flavor. But no, apparently, it's such a big scandal. Oh, that's Arctic chill. I love that you know. I think so. Yeah. I think they used to have that at 7-11 if I'm, if I'm, my memory serves right. That's probably yeah. That's probably it. But yeah. Obviously, everybody for the past five years has been like, when are you going to go after Comey for lying during Arctic Hayes? We don't have a country until you take down the big Arctic Hayes liar.

So anyway, in that appearance, he testified that he had not authorized someone else to be an anonymous source in news reports, which the indictment is saying is false. It doesn't appear to be false. He evidently did not know about the person who ended up being the anonymous source until after he had stated that. And the way that lies work is that it depends on when it happens, whether it's true or not. So anyway, the stakes are high. He could face five years in prison for this. And Trump is very excited. He posted justice in America. The 34-time felon is now worried about justice in America, taking down Jim Comey, blah, blah, blah, make America great, blah, blah, whatever. And before we we jump into our conversation about this, to be clear that Jim Comey is just the first of many enemies of Donald Trump living rent-free in his head that he apparently plans to go after,

as he makes clear in this video. It's not a list, but I think there'll be others. I mean, they're corrupt. These were corrupt, radical left Democrats, who's told me essentially, it was worse than he's them and that. I would say the Democrats are better than Tomi. But no, he'll be honest. Look, it was, that's my opinion. They

weaponized the Justice Department, like nobody in history. What they've done is terrible. And so I would, I hope, frankly, I hope their honestys. You can't let this happen to a junctuary. Yeah, he's worried about the weaponization

of the DOJ. That's why he's ordering on true social the head of the DOJ to go after enemies. Also, dude, you can't say it's not a list. We just showed it. You said Comey, Adam Schifty Schiff, Letitia, you put it in list form. It's definitely a list. Anyway, we have a lot more on this, but Ramay, I'm going to go to you first. What do you think about this? It seems pretty unprecedented. Well, you know, it's like I'm only laughing occasionally because I'm crying inside, but it's also just ultimately something has really set in. I think the last time I was on with you all was a few months ago. And over these last few months, we've seen systematic and

effective attacks against pretty much every aspect of our democracy. Right. So part of it, on every level, it's been also about instilling fear within assault, right? It's not so much the possibility that all of us at UCLA, for example, could be on a list sent to the administration. Well, it is that possibility. It's even though we know only a few people's names may be sent to the administration, right? So systematically we're seeing these attacks. I woke up this morning, pretty sober way to wake up to listening to Chris Hedges, you know, the New York Times Pulitzer Prize winner and former New York Times journalist breaking it down. And he basically said it starts with, you know, attacks on the media, attacks on public institutions. And then it goes to

attacks on political opponents. So I think what we're seeing is the administration testing out the reach of its powers, and it seems to have incredibly far-reaching powers, merely sort of stating various things on social media can create great amounts of action. So we're seeing that. We're seeing a vindictive president who we knew was vindictive, but somehow a significant part of the population isn't willing to really check his power on this. And we have to ask questions about how we even begin to check power. But what is effectively done here is a destruction of any faith in institutions, including the FBI that many of us progressives are extremely critical and concerns about, right? Because now, no matter how you take it, whether you're supportive of Comey or supportive of the president or maybe just alienated from the whole process, you question the institutions of justice now. So the big question is how do we push back and how do we stop this train that's wrecking this country and what's left of our democracy?

Yeah, I'm interested to see how this all ends up playing out because, you know, I like you guys share the concern that Trump is essentially using the DOJ as his personal petty patrol where if he had a past issue, with you, no matter how petty, serious or otherwise it is. He's going to use the DOJ for recriminations. I do want to say, like, I'm not going to lie. I don't know about you guys, but I look at James Comey as a bit of a clown. He's done a lot to try to insert himself into the public discourse over the last almost 10 years, starting with the nonsense he did during the Hillary Clinton Donald Trump race, where he dropped the big, oh, the email server and all of that ridiculousness that he did, which I felt like was just to make

himself a public spectacle and insert himself into quote unquote history. And then I think his fatal mistake was that he did try to weaponize the FBI against Donald Trump. And, you know, Some people might say that's justified, which cool. However, now that this guy is in power, he's bucking back on you. And what we're not going to do is actually like talk about the details of this prosecution, because we know it's a show trial. It's BS. There's really nothing to it.

Trump's own DOJ prosecutor quit and was Trump appointed this person. And they're like, ah, you're not going to take this to trial. actually win. And now he's got like an insurance lawyer prosecuting this thing against Comey. I'm just really interested to see how it goes because there's really no there. So I don't think Trump's going to actually get this guy to jail for six months. But, you know, the federal government coming after you with their unlimited resources, man, to defend yourself, even as frivolous as these charges are, it's kind of scary. Not even kind of. It's very scary. They could spend as much as they want.

The only resource they don't appear to have is like expertise or talent in the legal field. They've got it's basically just like, it seems crazy to me that like Merritt Garland waited 35 years to investigate Trump for crimes that were committed in the public eye. And people still said that Biden was directing it, even though there's never been any evidence that they even spoke about it. Meanwhile, Donald Trump hires two of his formal lawyers, one to be the head of the DOJ and one to replace the guy who said we got nothing on Comey. They immediately go after Comey. And that's just cool. And he gets to scream about how we're getting justice right now.

It was revealed just a couple days ago that Cash Patel and Pam Bondi are like, that whole Tom Holman thing where someone handed him a sack of $50,000. Yeah, we're not going to investigate that. It doesn't matter. It's our guy. But we're supposed to believe that there's justice. Meanwhile, he's covering up the Epstein files. He won't even meet with the survivors of the sexual predations of his longtime best friend.

And we're supposed to believe that he's concerned about justice. It's, like, the FBI is a shadow of its former self. The DOJ is like, it's a dark mockery of what it used to be. This is a pathetic place that America has found itself in. Ramesh, you want to say something? Well, from the start, John and was, it's been like doubling down on how brazen you can be, right? You know, like I could, I could kill someone right, you know, right outside on Fifth Avenue and get away with it. I paid off all of you.

I remember that very famously, which gave me a little bit of. of like perverse delight. When he said that, when Trump said that back 2016 era, he said that to all the other Republicans, I own you, I own you, I own you, right? So basically, the recipe has been outrage at the seeds of corruption that are part of any elite system of power, including ones that are run by corporatist Democrats for sure, you know, which are they cherry-pick how they prosecute and who they prosecute. We all know that well, right? Poor people of color. etc always targets right but at the same time then double down and be super brazen and shameless as a claim of being vindictive on the opposite i think that's the strategy that i've been seeing and

then the other pattern is just test the waters by and by doing the testing of the water someone like komi who yeah none of us really care that much for but it's to set a precedent or set an example roll the troops into l.a so other places can be scared because it's not so much of the the enactment of fascist authoritarianism. It's not the actual actions of it. It's the ways in which it instills fear by setting precedents, right? And that's what I'm seeing going on here. And that's what is totally like scaring the heck out of me. Yeah. Yeah. Look, the invasion of D.C. is terrible. My fear is that it's just designed to over the course of the next 12 months, everybody gets used to it. And when they invade a bunch of cities before the election, it just seems like,

well, yeah, that's the thing that he does. And they're going after Comey right now. As you said, Comey doesn't have a massive fan base or whatever. But you know, Tulsi Gabbard likes to pop her head up once a month and say we're gonna take down Obama. Like they clearly have higher targets that they want to. Trump has salivated over putting Hillary Clinton in prison for the better part of a decade right now. And so as dark as today is the future. Remember, like Donald Trump got us to this point in less than one year, but he is still likely to be president for several years, he's going to fill that time with something. I'm sure that people like Stephen Miller, Tom Homan, those sorts of people can come up with some terrible further steps to take.

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which means that I'm, well, I'm probably qualified to serve in the DOJ these days. But you shouldn't take my legal advice. When you talk to the actual lawyers, say that there's basically nothing here. Remember, the person he first set to look at evidence of Comey said, we can't prosecute this. There's nothing. That's not a confidence move. And also the fact that Donald Trump has been so clear in literally on social media directing Pam Bondi and Lindsay Halligan to go after Comey could probably be used by Comey's defense team to argue that this is targeted a prosecution. So that could probably help him too, even if he doesn't get off the actual merits of the case and there seems like there's a pretty strong case of that.

But that said, let's turn to a little bit of the discussion about the future of this case that happened on ABC News last night with Dan Abrams. Dan, all of these public statements from the president could actually help James Comey get this thrown out by a bunch. Correct, correct. I mean, look, that's going to be the first question is, is this case even going to make it to trial? Is a judge going to throw out this case? And that is certainly going to be part of the defense's argument is citing each and every one every one of the social media posts by the president demanding this prosecution and looking at the sort of the history of how we got here. And if that happens, we could see this whole thing

go to the Supreme Court. We could, we could. But I think that the more likely scenario is that the Supreme Court would be happy to let the lower courts deal with this one. That's my guess. And that certainly seems possible. The Supreme Court has not given Donald Trump 100% of what it wants, but it's a high number. I mean, it's not impossible. But that said, let's go to you, Was, what do you think? Does it make it to trial? Does he end up behind bars?

What do you think? I don't know, I feel like this gets thrown out before it goes to trial. But again, because Trump is so influential over there at justice, that this might just go all the way and waste, you know, millions upon millions of our taxpayer dollars so that Trump could prostitutes, prosecute, excuse me, some petty grievance. You're on to something there. The last thing that I would say, man, is that this has got kind of got me thinking. And I'm a little bit conflicted in the sense that I remember when Barack Obama got elected, a lot of people like me were pissed that, you know, he wasn't going to take the previous

administration to task for what they did in terms of the Iraq war and the Afghanistan. Dan Warren, the lies and the deceit and the corruption. And everybody thought that was BS. And there was this sense that he was like, oh, well, we're going to move forward, right? Like, we're moving on. We're not dealing with the past. And I think the point of that, I think there was wisdom in that in the sense that we can't have a system where every time somebody comes into power, the people are not who aren't

in power are at risk of going to prison, right? And like, it would definitely start that sort of cycle going. But at the same time, like, declaring that to be the case leaves it open for people like Donald Trump to be like, I'm just going to be as corrupt as humanly possible and know that I'll never face any, you know, consequences for it because I became president. It's really tough to really contemplate, honestly. Incredibly, incredibly disturbing, right? that this can be the way that it that it's approached and um you know and and and you know

i i can't help but just bring up how culpable and blame worthy the democratic party is for all of us sorry to be like mad and pissed about stuff like all of us but um instead of doubling down on just supporting working and middle class people they they went after russia You know, it didn't work. And it's set up the seed of this. It's set a precedent for the brazeness. It's a, he exponentialized the brazeness, the outrage. Like, that's what, that's what these guys do.

They take something that has a kernel of truth, and then they spin it back in their own way and just make it exponentially crazier and more outrageous. And it works because of our dystopian media and fragmented social media environment. It works because it just spirals people into, in various bubbles and into more extreme positions, right? It just works within a dysfunctional anti-democratic media environment as well. Yeah, I agree. I mean, there's lots of failures. I guess is it even pointless to point out that like, you know, in the past, the past 50 years or so, when you had presidents who were, you know, wanted basically all the power to be their own, like with Nixon or whatever,

you'd have people in his own party who would check him. Like, is it even worth acknowledging that the Republican Party isn't worth a damn? They're not worth three cents. That Trump could literally walk into the Senate chamber and start gunning them down. And the last one standing would still give him a thumbs up as he cocked the gun in his direction. Like, you would hope that you would have something. You've nothing. Comey said in that video we showed, you know, don't live your life on your knees.

But all of them live their life on their knees, if that's what it takes to not have. have him attack them on true social. That's how easily they've been bought. And meanwhile, you know, we're going to, we're going to be reporting on this story for the next six months at least, if not a year or two. And meanwhile, as I talked about this morning on on the damage report, we found out in a New York Times piece of reporting in the last week that Steve Whitkoff went and met with an oligarch from the UAE and set up a deal whereby they gave two billion dollars to Trump's family crypto business. And then the Trump administration gave hundreds of thousands of advanced and rare and restricted AI-related

chips to the UAE. And most people don't even know that that story exists. Two billion dollars campaign finance restrictions have nothing to do with it. It's just money transferred to the family. Meanwhile, James Comer held hearings for like four years because he believed that Joe Biden had been given $5 million by China and he couldn't prove it with half a decade of time to do that. This $2 billion thing, you're not even going to hear about it again. It's absolutely wild the position we've gotten in. The Democrats seem utterly incapable of getting people to focus on these things. I understand in Congress, they have no power. They can't do investigations. They can't call hearings. They can't really subpoena people. Maybe they'll do

that if the midterms go well. But this is a pathetic place, again, that our country has ended up in. Any final thoughts from either view before we end this segment? I mean, I guess, yeah, time will tell with how the Democrats respond. they are able to take back the house, I do think there will be recriminations for like these clowns at Doge and all of that stuff. Like they will be hauling and subpoenaing a lot of this Trump stuff on the periphery up to Congress. I think that'll definitely happen. It's just, to me, it's just a matter of like who's going to be leading this charge, the confidence that I have in the current leadership structure. And it's not, and again, folks need to understand

There's the leadership structure, but there's also the funding and fundraising mechanism that exists. That like the way the party is structured right now, they can't just turn on a dime from these blood-sucking consultants and the mega-rich donors and the corporate interest. They can't just do that because that's how they pay to keep themselves alive. So I'll just be interested to see if these guys ever even grow a small. spine and, you know, buck up against the moneyed interest that fund the party. I mean, I totally agree. It's like, I mean, you all in the interest are always talking about the distinction between establishment and populist. I would say it's also sort of institutionalist, same all, same all kind of low level corruption versus insurgents. Trump is, you know, is an insurgent,

even though he's doing the best ever for the wealthiest and most oligarchic ever of any establishment ever, But he frames and comes across as an insurgent. There's no democratic insurgents, not, I mean, of course, there are several, but there are none in major positions of power within the party. And you can see how long it's taken and how, you know, our boys, Zoran can't, can't even, can barely get, he can't get Hakeem Jeffries, congressional leader in New York's endorsement. He's an insurgent in the loving, positive way because he brings people together

around real affordability issues. And Hockel, you know, Kathy Hockel gave the endorsement, but says it kept saying the whole darn like two minute thing, how many times she disagrees with him? Like what is so disagreeable about someone who has love in his heart, who just wants to bring people together and give them the basics? That's is that, that should be the democratic insurgency. But you're right was, I mean, was if they're all,

if they're stuck with this inertia and they don't even know what they stand for and that you talk down to people, you talk down to people, say everything's okay, even though you're suffering, you can't afford anything. Your kids are in student debt. You can't even have kids. You have them eating crappy food. Like, if you talk down to people, they're going to hate you even more than this guy who most people know is lying the whole time, but at least says stuff that matches people's

anger. It's just as simple as that. Is any Democrat going to step up and be an insurgent and lead and take it on? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think we need that, but we also need something far broader. As you pointed out, it doesn't matter that for like what, like at least three presidential cycles now, people have been like desperately calling out to not just do things the exact same way they've always been done. And the establishment is never going to just hand

that over. Why would they? Chuck Schumer is never going to just step down. He needs to be defeated. Hakeem Jeffries is never just going to become awesome. Like he's had, all of them have had time. They've been in office for years, decades at this point. It's never going to happen. Definitely not awesome. He's an extremist and a radical, even though he is running away with the race. despite all of these attacks and the lack of the endorsement, maybe because of that he's doing so well. AOC polls like 20 to 30 points better than Chuck Schumer, but she's a ridiculous radical and Chuck Schumer's very reasonable. It's ridiculous. There needs to be some equivalent of the Tea Party to finally sweep these last dregs. I'm sure you've seen the polls going around where they've shown that

like on average over the last 20 years, the Democratic Party's approval has gone down one to one and a half points every single year, even during the Obama years where he was a relatively popular president, the party keeps going at the wrong direction. And we keep just putting up the same, basically the same exact presidential candidate every four years. And sometimes, you know, in the wake of a pandemic or something, things have become so bad that they'll vote him back in. But we need to go in a different direction. They're not going to just change. They're not just going to hand it over. It needs to be taken from them. And with that said, we're going to take a short break. We got a lot more to talk to on the other side of this.

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Please order in the hall. Please order in the hall. I honestly don't know what that guy's complaining about. There was order in the hall. They formed an orderly line as a hundred diplomat. that's representing over 50 countries walked on out of there. They weren't pushing, they weren't shoving, it wasn't a crowd. They were like, no, I'm not listening to this, peace out.

And then they filed out of the room. And so many in the assembly didn't end up hearing it because most were out. They weren't interested in hearing what Benjamin and Yahoo had to say. But some people in Gaza did hear it because the Israeli intelligence broadcasted into Gaza on loudspeakers placed along the border and even live streamed it to hacked cell phones so that Hamas or the hostages could listen to it. See, they can get a propaganda speech into Gaza. Food is just so much more difficult. I mean, who can figure that? How do you get food over a wall? It's too difficult. Everybody back off of them.

But getting to the actual content of the speech, he did what I think most people were expecting he would do in an address like this, Making clear that the war is not done anytime soon. Take a look. We're not done yet. The final elements, the final remnants of Hamas are hold up in Gaza City. They vow to repeat the atrocities of October 7th again and again and again, no matter how diminish their forces. That is why Israel must finish the job. That is why we want to do so as fast as possible. Yeah, I believe him in some of that, that they want to finish the job. I disagree about whether he'll correctly identify what that job is that he's trying to finish. But nobody's surprised that he's saying the war is going to continue.

Of course, the war is going to continue. It's going to continue as long as there's a man, woman, or child of Palestinian descent still alive in the world. As long as there's an inch of Gaza that isn't prepped to be bulldozed and turned into a resort, clearly the war is going to continue. you. He'd word it differently. He's got better PR consultants than I do. But I think most people at this point at this point of all of this is, what the point of these speeches are, what the point of the war is. And bear in mind the context for this is that more and more countries represented in the UN have now voted to acknowledge a Palestinian state and are being very critical of Israel for the war crimes they're committing on a daily basis. And Netanyahu also

fit in time to complain about that. Many world leaders buckled. They buckled under the pressure of a biased media, radical Islamist constituencies, and anti-Semitic mobs. There's a familiar saying, when the going gets tough, the tough get going. Well, for many countries here, when the going got tough, you caved as we fight the terrorists who murdered many of your citizens, you are fighting us. This is not an indictment of Israel. It's an indictment of you. It's an indictment of weak need leaders who appease evil rather than support a nation whose brave soldiers guard you from the barbarians at the gate. They're already penetrating your gates. Yep, the remaining fragments of

Palestinian society are the barbarians at the gates. Any day now, Canada will be invaded by the second infantry of Palestinians busting down the door. He talks there about people flinching in the face of evil as they have killed tens of thousands of innocent children. No, I think these countries are aware of what evil is and what it looks like, the acts that it's perpetuating and the lies that it tells to try to ward off the culpability for the acts that they have committed. The fact that there has been some international solidarity with Palestine is not an indictment of those countries. It's an indictment of everyone who hasn't yet joined it, including the country that unfortunately we are broadcasting from for this show. We have more,

but I'm going to jump to you or Mesh. What do you make of this? Well, look, it's strikingly similar, right? Netanyahu's speech to Trump's, right? It's it's two countries that are now in, credible that one of them is ours that are isolating themselves from the rest of the world and endorsing, you know, wholeheartedly that word, not just endorsing, we're funding and supporting it fully. We're the only reason it's continuing an insane genocide that it should be, should never, never occur. Like, we should never have mass genocides on this planet, And I know it's not the only genocide that's occurred, including in recent years.

But it's berating the UN, which is basically, and it's the same thing Trump did, right? Basically telling the rest of the world, you guys suck, and we are not with you anymore. So what's going to happen, right? And just this key point, you can't say it enough. The only reason this is continuing to happen is because of the United States. Okay, it's great that a number of countries supported the idea or, you know, or voted, not voted for, like announced recognition of a Palestinian state. But that's not enough, right? If you look at what happened during the South African apartheid state, and by the way, it's remarkable how South African leaders are a huge part there on the flotilla as well.

Mandela's grandson is on that flotilla, heading to Gaza. that, you know, it's, if you look at that state, what crippled it were economic sanctions and boycott and divestment, right? In this country, if we support or engage at all with boycott and divestment, we could be imprisoned. It would be considered illegal. It would be considered anti-Semitic, even though it has nothing to do with Judaism. In fact, many Jews, many of the people who support this are Jewish in this process. So I just want to say like, you know, this is that the actions of the IDF are eerily similar to the actions of ICE. They're both paramilitaries that kidnap and murder people now we're seeing. And just think about the parallels also about the ideas of relocating Palestinian peoples to some third state where they'll basically be a refugee population, marginalized population.

And how similar that is to what ICE is doing with people that's detaining here in L.A. and elsewhere. and trying to push them out to random places in the world that have nothing to do with where they're from, such as Sudan, South Sudan, Libya, etc. So it comes down to that, right? It comes down to, like, kind of kidnapping paramilitary or actually just standing up for people not being murdered. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. It's kind of tough for me to stomach any of this guy's public remarks, because rarely does he do anything but lie and spew, just hateful propaganda, it's tough.

And the thing that kills me is that the bile he's able to spew is he's only capable of doing this because of they're being buttressed by the American government. They say it all the time in Israeli media, in the, you know, in the Knesset, it's like, we could not do any of this without America's backing. They couldn't do this on their own. And so to know that our leaders have the power to put this genocide to an end and they don't, it's, it just kind of kills me. Like, even just watching that clip, he's like, oh, they say every day they want to. to do another October 7th and I'm just like, man, like, we've all seen the videos and pictures of what you guys have done in Gaza. And you mean to tell me that these people are

just as capable now of perpetuating what they did on that atrocity on October 7th as they are today? That's a complete failure. That's an indictment of the strategy. Like, what are we doing if that's the case? Which we know. It's not. Like, is the security of Israel is not under threat by Hamas. What happened on October 7th was a security breach. Like they kind of were sleeping at the wheel and it allowed for these militants to come in and do an atrocity. And it was horrible. But for us to sit here and believe that they're just as much in danger right now today is you got to be an idiot to believe that. And, you know, just just his finger wagging and, you know, the sort of bravado that he speaks with. It kind of makes me sick. I'm not going to

lie. Yeah. No, 100%. And also the idea that like, okay, so is it likely the case that there's somebody in Hamas that wishes they could do on October 7th, 30 day? Probably. Probably. You know why he's telling you that so that you will use that hypothetical to ignore the October 7th that they do every week. Not hypothetical that they do. I mean, they've done what? One, two, three, October 7th of civilians just waiting for food in lines, let alone all the others. And it was tragic. You know what else is tragic? Dropping a building on families, blowing kids apart, setting them on fire, IDF snipers, blowing their heads off, blowing their bodies, their bodies in half, targeting the kids, 82% of those who have died have been civilians.

Those are not hypotheticals. Those have happened every day for a couple years now. And Netanyahu is doing his little propaganda tour so that you will shut the hell up and let them keep doing it. So that they can kill the next hundred civilians, the next thousand civilians, the next 10,000 civilians, and you'll just shut up about it. And they will gradually corral the rest of the the population of Gaza down to the extreme south so that they can be packed up and shipped off so that the few who haven't been murdered by the Israeli government will have the land stolen from them and but they'll be sent to slums around the world and that'll be it. Their society will be gone, their land will be stolen, their civilization will be ended. Everybody shut up

because of hypotheticals and just let them do an ethnic cleansing, okay? Because some deranged terrorist who imagines insanely that they could ever do anything to Israel. He might want that. So you should just let the worst war crimes on the face of the earth go forward. And not only should you shut up about it, but you should keep paying your taxes so that money could be sent to Israel, the weapons can be sent to Israel so that we can help to perpetuate those war crimes on a daily basis. That is what the point of the speech was. And I apologize for going on a long time. I mean, I just heard so much about this already. It's just for me, honestly, when I hear these guys speak in public, let's just like,

if we carried their logic down the road, right, like let's just say one of the groups that Israel has declared their mortal enemy, right? Like, okay, our enemy are Hamas, our enemy are the Houthis in Yemen, our enemy are Hezbollah, Our enemy are the Iranian nation, right? Let's just say they carried out a strike, okay, that killed hundreds of people, 82% of which were Israeli. The world over, U.S. media, everybody would be like, this is a tragedy. This cannot happen again.

We need to, it's all hands on deck to make sure this never goes on again. In fact, we need to treat that country like a pariah nation. They're done. Much less they carried, they continuously carried out these attacks over time and tens of thousands of Israeli children were killed by the Iranian military in what they deemed to be a war. 82% casualty rate. Everybody would condemn this. Everybody and rightfully so would be like, this is some of the most horrible stuff we've ever seen. perpetuated in our lives. And yet this guy gets to go with the UN and pretend that he's

fighting this just war against this rag-tag group of peace shooter having dudes in Palestine. It's just, it's crazy to me. Yeah. And two other quick things, right? Like one is

a little ray of hope is I feel like the vast majority of people around the world, perhaps the vast majority of governments around the world, are against this at this point they know it are are at and enough is enough point i hope the vast majority of israelis are as well not sure i know they've had lots of protests but just think about that right the vast majority people are against this yet this occurs because of just a few interlinked forces that have such deep amounts of power and the only other thing i just wanted to add

is it's incredibly the incredible the parallels between this and 9-11 2001 right it's just just everybody just think about the parallels of this and ask if you want this to occur again and again and again in our world and whether we can end this this time um and just the just the last thing is i just think it's really really we we have to think about how to shift power and how to transform and change this power because it's not just the age on to the uh israeli government it's our military contractors, including our technology companies, that are taking windfalls off of our taxpayer money that is funding these companies to basically be complicit in mass genocide and surveillance, by the way.

Exactly. Let's take a short break. Welcome back on all to remain. So the first hour of the Young Turks power panel apologies that we went long in the last story. So there's a few things we're not going to get to, but we do have one more great story for you. And after that, the second hour, Yaz is going to be leading Jackson White and Sharon are going to be here as well. So that should be an awesome panel two. So stick around for that. But first, this. Yet another vicious assault carried out by a federal immigration officer has been caught on video. This time, it's an ICE officer shoving a woman to the ground outside of an immigration court in New York City.

The incident allegedly started when the woman that you're going to see in this video that will show you. This is Monica Moretta Galarza. She and her young daughter are clinging to her husband who massed federal agents were attempting to take into custody. She was questioned by reporters and said that her and her family arrived from Ecuador last year and are seeking asylum, which used to count for something, but unfortunately not in America in 2025. And we're going to show you the first of a few videos. This was filmed by Alad Aliahu, a reporter for Tim Poole's company Timcast. Take a look. So let's get a little. Let's see what I'm saying. So there you have the initial separation where that pack of immigration officers who are wearing masks for some reason. I don't know for something they feel they need to, I guess.

And it kind of makes sense if you were going to do the stuff that they're doing on a daily basis. I probably wouldn't want people to know who I am either. And so in that video you hear just grab her, grab her and pull her away, break up this family. We got to get this guy. How dare he be here? And so the wife then talks to the agents pleading with them not to do this. And this is when the actual attack happens. Take a look. Oh my god, press, press, let's have, press, without, press, let me go. Come, guys, go. Who?

Who? Move! Oh, get her. Oh, get her out of the building. No, yeah, I said, do. Don't get her out of the building. Yeah, yeah. No.

Yeah. No. Yeah. No, yeah. Absolutely disgusting. And I'm sure that that guy was telling himself the whole time. I'm a hero. This is law enforcement. This is what a tough guy looks like. I'm going to knock this woman down. Well, that was one angle. Really quick, Till Ecker is a reporter for ProPublica captured that same incident from a different angle.

that like someone doesn't have their paperwork in order or perhaps in this case and in so many does. You just don't want asylum seekers. And that is such a violation of justice that we should spend hundreds of billions of dollars, flood American cities with masked secret police to stop that. And then meanwhile, you see that video, which is objectively worse than anything that family is being alleged to have done. That guy just assaulted a woman. She had to be sent to the hospital for possible head injuries as a result of that. That guy who barely flinched an opportunity to assault this woman and did it. And meanwhile, we're being told that we need these exact sorts of guys all over the country because there's like empanada saleswomen that aren't supposed

to be here or some second grade science teacher made a mistake on his paperwork five years ago. So we need to fundamentally remake America because of that injustice. And meanwhile, we empower and then shower with money, guys like that that are going to commit actual crimes. Waz, I'm going to go to you first. What do you think? Honestly, I just think about the ICE recruitment poster that I saw a few weeks ago, where basically one of the main pitches is that the police in America have been handcuffed and they're not even allowed to prosecute crimes and go out and make us safe and stop the real criminals. But if you join ICE, there's not going to be any of that.

Like, and, you know, again, like for me, they're recruiting pitches that. So the people that are coming in, that's appealing to them, that they can go out and manhandle a woman whose husband's about to get deported, who's grieving the loss of her husband. And you could just go out, have no patience, no humanity, no empathy. and assault this lady and basically spear her onto the ground. It's, that's what, like, that's what they're advertising to potential applicants. So it's no wonder we get this as a result. Ramesh. Yeah, I wonder if everybody knows that our, our tax dollars are paying for a goon squad of kidnappers.

Because that's, that's, that's what ICE is. One, two, do people know, and it's okay. We don't, you know, but we should now, right? Do people know that ICE only has existed since 9-11? And it's part of the Department of Homeland Security, which was existed after 9-11 when people were basically told to be scared. They said, you have to live for security. You have to live in fear of your own civil liberties being violated. That was the subtext, essentially, of the messaging after 9-11.

And that's what created ice. So that is what we're funding. That budget is bigger than ever. And they are brazen, too. I mean, I've done a lot of work with the media, looking at their social media strategies. They just double down on trying to be as mean-spirited. They're stealing a lot of images, by the way,

without artist consent, like kind of old homesteading kinds of images, Norman Rockwellish kinds of images. I'm sure you guys have been reporting on all this. But let me tell you about what's real, which I'm hearing from friends of mine that are doing frontline attorney work. These are the people we should be paying attention to and supporting. They're going into mass ice facilities here in Los Angeles and otherwise. Large numbers of people are being placed into standing room only cells.

People are not being able to, are not being allowed to sleep because there's not enough space for up to two weeks. We're talking about innocent women in some cases that are 75 plus. years old, who are not being allowed to take a shower or change their clothes. This is torture. That's what it is. It's torture. So straight up. And some of them are also being, are scared, you know what, because they're being told they might be tossed somewhere into Libya or Sudan, countries they don't even know about. Many of these are Hispanic, Central American, et cetera, migrants. And I will just say this. I have friends here in my neighborhood where I live,

do sell mango or day laborers, many of them have legal papers, they're not out at all. They're all scared. They're all scared because it's the power of this fear. So how do we stop this criminal organization? 100%. Yeah, there was a reporting earlier this week about the new $500 million year facility in Florida. They just, there's no paperwork for like 600 people or something. Maybe they're there.

Maybe they're not. Maybe they were set to Sudan. Maybe they were bashed over the head thrown in the ever. who knows to the government. They're not really people. Meanwhile, their budget has been massively increased. ISIS budget is bigger than all but like less than 10 world militaries, I think at this point. And it is an unaccountable, unidentifiable personal police for Donald Trump. Again, you cannot know who these people are that might assault you, that might sexually assault you, in a lockup, might disappear a family member. You don't get to know,

any of this stuff and they basically, who are they accountable to? Stephen Miller, Christy Noem, Donald Trump, that's it, not judges, not governors. Gavin Newsom was just signed that thing saying they're gonna have to unmask. And Noam was like, no, we're not gonna do that. We can do literally whatever we want. There are no bounds on our power. And that's, and that, and we are just in the beginning of this in this second term. It can only get worse from here on now. Any final thoughts, guys? Yeah, just one quick thing, John.

And was also is a lot of the money that's going for those facilities, it's being framed as places to put people being detained by ICE, right? Like immigrants who may not have the correct paperwork or in many cases do have the correct paperwork. And in some cases, there are actual citizens being detained, right, or tossed. But I think people should realize those facilities are not just for that. They are meant to instill fear that all of us could be in such facilities. So I just people again need to recognize the explicit messaging and what it portends, what it's what it's suggesting from Comey to every other issue we've discussed. Yeah, that's a great point. I mean, there's already been what a couple hundred U.S. citizens

that have been deported. It doesn't matter if you don't, you could have all your paperwork exactly as it should be and just combine that with and we'll end on this dark note. They're constantly talking now about stripping citizenship away from people. Donald Trump is now objectively saying, like, if you protest in the wrong way, if your politics are the wrong sort of politics, you're a domestic terrorist. Like right now, those concentration camps are mostly being filled up with people on their way to be deported. Is that always what they're going to be for when you combine it with this new anti-left campaign of the Trump administration? Again, I hope that in a couple of years' time, this video can be played back and I sound

like a hyperbolic fool. But I don't know, I haven't seen a single prediction. from before Donald Trump's second term that he hasn't already exceeded at this point. So we'll see. In any event, Ramesh, thank you. As always, great to have you here. Was as well, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure, everybody. Thank you for watching. The second hour starts on the other side of this upcoming break. Yaz, Jackson, Sharon will be here. So don't go anywhere. We'll be right back.

Thank you.