The Young Turks - Trump's Loose Lips - July 29, 2025

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Well, we do start off with pretty horrific tragedy that took place in New York. A horrific mass shooting claimed the lives of four people in New York City last night. And before all the details could come out, conservative commentator

Charlie Kirk decided to make some statements based on complete and utter assumptions that were proven to be wrong and false. So he wrote on X again before all the details of the perpetrator came out, that he was just in New York City all weekend with our family,

never felt safe. So many people in the city who don't belong, praying for all involved. There he is making a reference to undocumented immigrants. And the shooter in this case was not an undocumented immigrant.

We're going to get to the details of who he was or is in just a minute. But before we do, it is worth noting that one of the victims of this horrific event was an immigrant, a police officer by the name of Didarul Islam.

He's among one of those individuals who was killed. He was an immigrant from Bangladesh and again a police officer. And turns out he was a wonderful person as well. He's among one of those individuals who was killed. He was an immigrant from Bangladesh and again a police officer and turns out he was a wonderful person as well. In fact, a close family friend said

that Officer Islam had been a mentor to young men in a Bangladeshi community that numbers more than 100,000 in the city. When the officer joined the police department, his friend and his own mother had asked him why he would pursue such

a dangerous line of work being a cop. And he told her he wanted to leave behind a legacy for his family, something they could be proud of. He is now dead because of this tragic shooting that took place in Manhattan. Now he leaves behind his pregnant

wife and two other children. And as for the gunman, it turns out he was a Nevada man. I'll give you a few more details about the shooter in just a minute. But Cenk, I mean, Charlie seems to never miss an opportunity to preemptively politicize a tragic

event like a mass shooting. Okay, now it's clear. There's a very clear pattern both with Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro. preemptively politicize a tragic event like a mass shooting. Okay, now it's clear. There's a very clear pattern both with Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro. I'm not sure who else is involved and I don't know what's driving it. I don't know if it's funding,

I don't know what it is. But they are gung ho to turn things back into the culture wars, right? So everything is racial, everything is about religion and ethnicity and blaming people based on who they are. So this is now, everything is about religion and ethnicity and blaming people based on who they are. So this is now a pattern with

Charlie Kirk, he's now said three, four, eight times in a row. Yeah, the dirty immigrants, the Muslims, yeah. Azor, I'm on 9-11, right? So look, brother, I'm not bringing it up, you're bringing it up.

And you're bringing it up in a super toxic way. So don't tell me you don't like the culture wars and the minute there's any kind of story at all, you're like culture wars, hate the other side, hate them for who they are.

Yeah, you just noticed there's immigrants in New York. Hey, dumbass, there's been immigrants in New York from day one. The whole point of New York is immigrants. Have you heard of the Statue of Liberty?

Have you heard of Ellis Island? You're outraged in the year 2025 that there are immigrants in New York. Come on, man, I mean, come on. Because nobody's that stupid. That's why I'm saying, there's an agenda here, obviously.

Right? Yeah, and also, he attempted to kind of straddle the two sides in regard to what's currently transpiring in Gaza with this intentional genocide that's playing out. But in recent days, he's decided to

essentially regurgitate Israeli propaganda, and has repeated the lie that there is no starvation taking place in Gaza. It's the funding. Okay, Charlie, who is it? Okay, I know you're never going to tell us, but you just decided,

my God, I woke up one day and decided to smear all Muslims, the most common Israeli tactic of all time. Remember America, you have to hate the Muslims. The problem is not the giant Goliath in the Middle East taking

$300 billion from us and starting all the wars and attacking all the wars and attacking all their neighbors and occupying 5.5 million people and taking away their freedom. That is not the problem, the problem is the Muslims,

come on man, and nobody's that dumb. Okay, I get that a lot of people were brainwashed into believing that throughout the entire history of American mainstream media. But if you're in this business and you see the news every day, you can't think that Israel's

the victim and actually be an honest person. If you come from that background, you got family in Israel, and you're massively biased, I get it, right? But you don't come from that background and you're like, yeah,

starving children is awesome. The problem is the Muslims. Okay, then all right, dude, all right, I get it. You're spreading hatred for probably financial gain. But how about just allow the story to develop before you immediately

jump into your, let me use this tragedy and weaponize it for my own purposes and to appease whoever is funding me to say the garbage that I say. How about maybe think about your own credibility for one second, let the story develop. Of course, you can't do that. Anyway, let's get back to the topic at hand. Who was the shooter? Well, the shooter was a 27-year-old man

by the name of Shane Tamura, as I mentioned earlier. He was from Nevada and he actually drove cross country to Manhattan to carry out this horrific event. He attacked an office building in Manhattan which houses companies including Blackstone, KPMG, and the NFL. So after he allegedly killed Officer Islam and three other individuals, he then

turned his weapon on himself and committed suicide. He did carry a suicide note stating what his motive was. One page of the note accused the NFL of concealing the dangers to players brains to maximize profits, sources said.

A second page mentioned CTE and blamed football. A third page asked, study my brain please, I'm sorry, sources said. So it does appear that he had an axe to grind with the NFL and the building that he targeted

did house the NFL. So he played football in high school, but he never played football professionally. And police have not found any evidence or at least nothing has come up yet. Obviously, there is an investigation going on, but so far there isn't any evidence or at least nothing has come up yet. Obviously there is an investigation

going on, but so far there isn't any evidence that he had CTE. But there is some evidence that he had a history of mental health issues, we'll visit that in just a minute. But New York City Mayor Eric Adams stated that it appears as though he

was going after the employees at the NFL. From our preliminary investigation, he took the wrong elevator bank up to the NFL. From our preliminary investigation, he took the wrong elevator bank up to the NFL headquarters. Instead, it took him to Rudin management, and that is where he

carried out additional shootings and took the lives of additional employees. Now he did kill the police officer and then two other individual civilians. And this happened in the lobby of the building, I can't imagine what

that scene was like, absolutely horrific. He killed the fourth victim and himself at Rudin management's offices. Now he did have a history of mental health issues as reported by ABC News, for instance, he had two

mental health crisis holds in his background in Nevada. One back in 2022 and the other in 2024, law enforcement sources said. Those holds typically allow a person to be detained for up to 72 hours if they are thought to be a danger

to themselves or others. And as we all know, mental health care in this country is a complete and utter joke. There is this allergy to holding people for longer than 72 hours if they have been proven to be a threat to themselves and to others.

And instead of having inpatient mental health facilities to ensure that people who need the care or getting the care that they need, our country just releases people out onto the streets. And situations like this actually happen far more often than

people realize. This happened in Manhattan. It happened in a building that houses Blackstone and the NFL, which is why it's getting all the attention in the world. But come visit Los Angeles where you'll see machete attacks by

mentally ill people who are left on the streets to fend for their own. We live in a complete clown show of a country and our politicians don't take it seriously. They don't care whether we're talking about on a federal level or a municipal level.

They just totally abandoned their responsibilities. This guy was obviously suffering from some serious issues, didn't get the care he needed, had access to an AK-47 type assault weapon, and proceeded to carry out this horrific shooting that claimed

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Because of the Luigi Mangione situation, which by the way, that shooting happened only 15 blocks away from this shooting. So I was worried about that? because of the Luigi Mangione situation, which by the way, that shooting happened only 15 blocks away from this shooting. So I was concerned that, here we go, people are starting to target

executives and corporations, etc. Now luckily, that is largely not the case, okay? So now it is an office building, it is NFL, presumably executives he was going after, right? But it's very apples and oranges, so it's is an office building, it is NFL, presumably executives he was going after, right? But it's very apples and oranges,

so it's not really the same thing. So that's, look, you always have fog of, they call fog a war, but the first 24 hours you'll hear a lot of things, and a lot of speculation that doesn't turn out to be true. Like for example, the right wing's getting on CNN

because one of their analysts, do you have that part of it or no? One of their analysts said that you have that part of it or no? One of their analysts said that this shooter was probably white and he got that from a police source, right? Now it turns out he wasn't at all, but they found that out a half an

hour later on their broadcast. So then they correct it, right? But people go back and say, even though the guy seems to be black or Asian or something like that, they're saying probably white, they had an back and say, even though the guy seems to be black or Asian or something like that, they're saying probably why don't they have an agenda?

No, they didn't have an agenda one, okay? So now in terms of what actually did happen, look guys, we can parse this a thousand ways. First of all, violence is dumb. If you're, football gives people CTE, so the NFL is terrible,

because at least the people's dead, so let me go kill people, makes no sense. The three guys in the ground floor having nothing to do with NFL, including the cop who was killed. I guarantee you right now the person upstairs he killed is not

an executive, it's just a random person. because he shot the first person that he saw, right? So and besides which what difference does it make? Because he's mentally unwell, right?

That's why you do crazy things like this because you are crazy. And however you take that word if you're offended by it, I don't like that's not the point guys, okay? So now look to Anna's point, number one, are we, we know what

the common denominator is. They all have different ideologies, different reasons, different blah, blah, blah. The common denominator is guns. We also know that we can't do anything about it. This guy had an AR-15,

AR-15 should be illegal. There's no way in the world that bill is going to pass, it's America. And so you could pass easy ones like red flag laws, we won't even pass those. But now since politicians are

totally immovable on that, even though they should move, I know they won't. That leads you to concentrating on mental health because you think maybe they're not such monsters. And maybe they could actually spend money to help the average American.

So we're not in constantly in mass shootings or the other things that go wrong or people living in the streets, etc. So far that hasn't happened yet. No, it hasn't, because they don't care about us, okay? I want to be clear about something.

As we know, every time there's a shooting that makes headlines, like this shooting, you'll have the left, meaning the Democratic side, talk about the need for gun control. You'll have the right talk about

the need for mental health care. They're both full of crap. Neither side wants to do a damn thing about it. Neither side will do a damn thing about it. Neither side will do a damn thing about it unless the American people get together and demand change. And to be quite frank, we do need

to focus on mental health care. That is a problem. That is a huge problem all across the country. We all see it on our streets, especially if you're living in a big city. And it's unacceptable to use that

as a talking point and only as a talking point when it's convenient for them, but never actually do anything about it. Yeah, and on that point, number one, Republicans cut mental health funding. After all their jibber jabber about

it's not guns, it's mental health, they go to vote on it. They're like, yeah, that's why we should slash mental health funding. Okay, then you guys never meant, but you guys buy this, I used to tear my hair out about this for the last 20 years as

we've been doing this show. But now you all get it, right? All the politicians are crooks and liars. So you knew that when the Republicans say that they were good, that it's really a mental health issue, they were going to go

back and vote against mental health funding, you knew that, right? Now I'm hoping that everybody's beginning to realize the game here. Now turn to the Democrats. So they do care about mental health and at the national level they do want more funding, okay?

Then you go to the local level and you're like, okay, there's obviously mental health crisis for the homeless in all these major cities. So can we help them and get them to a place where they could get assistance instead of just going,

hey, they're freedom to hang out in the streets and do the things that they're doing. Nope, not going to do it. No, we believe in wild, insane libertarianism, where we give people with massive mental health problems the freedom

to die in the streets. Yeah, and honestly, look, I can only talk about this in the context of a state as deeply blue as California is, okay? But as a Californian, oftentimes one of the other talking points that you'll hear from the Democratic

politicians who govern this state is, the big problem with mental health is Reagan defunded the asylums, he closed down the asylum. We're talking about Reagan. We're talking about Reagan. We're going all the way back to

the 1980s. This is California. Republicans have no power here, zero, none. This is the highest tax state. What is your excuse for not implementing policies that provide mental health care to

people who need it in the state? Please explain it to me. This is why I have no faith in the Democratic leadership in the state, because they're pathetic. They have all the power in the world and they still somehow manage to blame Republicans from

decades past for everything that's wrong in the state right now. Come on. Yeah, guys, first of all, are we talking about Reagan? Is that what we're doing? Yeah, we're talking about Reagan, literally.

So seriously, Gavin Newsom often brags about how California is the fifth largest economy in the world, and it is, that's amazing. Only the rest of the United States, China, I believe Germany and India now are larger than California, then California comes

in above Japan, it is monstrous economy and in an awesome way. Don't tell me you don't have enough money to reopen those clinics or those asylums, but in a humane way. Not in a ludicrous way that we ran them in the past with no funding and barbarism, etc.

They were abusive, they were terrible. We obviously do not want that. But why would we have to either deal with the status quo or go back to that barbaric system? Yeah, and so think about that, guys, they do that false

choice on purpose. Yes. No one that has thought about it for a minute, you might not have ever thought about it. But if you're a policy maker, you get people in a room and talk about it for five minutes,

you'd realize that the two choices aren't, all right, let's start up really barbaric asylums or reabuse the mentally ill, just like we did 50, 60 years ago. Or we let them die in the streets. Those are your only two options. Every rational person in the room

would be like, why are those only two options? Yeah, we reject that. And why are you guys saying nonstop, if you're Democratic politicians in places like California, that those are our only two options?

What a ridiculous thing to say. That's because they don't care. Look, all the money has to be funneled to donors and allies, donors and allies, Democrats and Republicans. That's why you have no problem is ever fixed, which leads me to give

the last word to one of our members on tyt.com. Shelby wrote, someone I work closely with came from the NFL and had to work with one of the victims who thankfully is now in stable condition. These shootings really will impact

us all eventually, as long as our laws around guns remain as they are. So as long as all of our laws remain as they are, as unfortunately I've been telling you now for about a decade, there's going to be a mass shooting near you, do not be surprised.

It is coming in your direction and now unfortunately, dozens, people have dozens of people have written in over the years saying, when I first heard you say that, I thought, well, that seems maybe a little hyperbolic and I just had a mass shooting near me, right?

So that's what our politicians are doing to us. They refuse to fix even the most basic needs of the American people. Even when the mass shootings are inside our kids' schools, they say we will never fix any of your problems.

They take all of our money and funnel it to their donors. Bribery has ruined this country. We need to end the bribery so we can get democracy and America back. Fight corruption.us. All right, we're going to take

a break. When we come back, Donald Trump answers some questions about his relationship and his break from Jeffrey Epstein. Also, we've got some updates on the federal government's latest cover story for the doctored video

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I just think that if Trump wants to stop digging himself into a dog, Thank you for gifting a membership out of YouTube, Casper. I just think that if Trump wants to stop digging himself into a deeper hole on the Epstein thing, maybe he stops talking about it. Because every time he opens his mouth, he finds himself in a worse predicament. But anyway, the latest has to do

with his answers to reporters questions while aboard Air Force One. Let's get to the details. People were taken out of the spa, hired by him. In other words, gone. And other people would come and complain this guy is taking people

from the spa, I didn't know that. And then when I heard about it, I told him, I said, listen, we don't want you taking our people whether it was spa or not spa, we don't want you taking our people, whether it was spa or not spa. I don't want him taking people. And he was fine and

then not too long after that, he did it again and I said out of here. Does that include Virginia and Neffri? I don't know. I think she worked at the spa. I think so, he stole her.

Questions are swirling over what exactly led to a fallout between President Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. They seem to be good friends and then suddenly they were no longer friends. And while taking questions from reporters today, Donald Trump was

specifically asked about that and whether or not the break in their relationship had to do with the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was trying to poach employees from Trump's businesses. So today he stated that Jeffrey Epstein quote unquote stole

Virginia Jouffre from him, who apparently was working at the spa in Mar-a-Lago. So that statement was during a press conference with reporters. And Trump did take several questions about his relationship with Epstein.

I'm not sure it's helping him in any way. But that clip that we just played for you came near the end of the press conference. We have more to share with you. But so far, Cenk, what are your thoughts on what you heard

in that clip? Guys, mental, he's so far, Cenk, what are your thoughts on what you heard in that clip? Guys, mental, I just, he's so dumb, he doesn't get it. Guys, hear me out. If you're Trump supporter, right? What do you want Trump saying if he's innocent? Do you want him saying, yeah,

I kicked Epstein out because he was a creep that I heard that he says something about a young girl and I said I'm not on my watch and I kicked him out because I was morally outraged. That was the original story. That's no, no,

Trump never actually said that. His supporters assumed that that's what it was. See, they actually made a logical assumption because that's something that would have helped Trump. Right, right, right.

But he's a massive liar, but he can't even figure out how to lie right, right? So that's the obvious liar, but he can't even figure out how to lie right, right? So that's the obvious lie. Now I say lie in this case, because you just heard the truth from Trump.

He didn't say that. He said that he was bothered that Epstein took some of his employees from Mar-a-Lago, and that's why they had a falling out. But brother, we all know Epstein was a massive pedophile and ran this ring.

When you say that you're more concerned that he took a couple of employees from your spa, don't you see that you seem to have no empathy for the girls? And then you mentioned that's one of the most spectacular cases and unfortunate cases, we're going to

tell you more about that in a second. And you say, instead of like I can't believe what happened to her, you're like, yeah, he stole her from, she was my employee. Before we even know about the spa

part, he had already yesterday mentioned that this was the reason that he had taken some sort of employee from Mar-a-Lago. And Jon Stewart yesterday did a brilliant monologue where he's like, so your real concern was that he had poached

a low level employee, right? But now today it turns out when you hear more details, it's even worse. He's like, yeah, I can't believe he took the girls and raped them, right? No, he took my girls, they were working in my spa.

My God, you're so dumb. And look, I don't think he's trying to say he took my girls from my spa who we were abusing or anything like that. No, no, no, I'm not abusing. Yeah, yeah, I just want to be very clear.

That's not what's being stated. That's not what's being implied. But you have to understand the point that Cenk is trying to make here, which is that Epstein is a known pedophile, was a known pedophile, who was raping and abusing minors. And so when reporters are asking

you why you no longer wanted a relationship with him and the first thing you go to is, he was poaching my employees, it doesn't really bode well for you. It's not good PR. He understands good PR, right? That's not good PR.

Okay, so that's what he said toward the end of his Q&A with reporters. Prior to that, he made other Epstein related statements. Let's take a look at that. It was a creep. So can you explain that discrepancy? Well, maybe they're the same thing, you know, sort of a little bit of the same thing. But no, he took people that worked for me and I told him don't do it anymore and he did it. And I said, stay the hell out of here.

Epstein has a certain reputation, obviously. I'm just curious, were some of the workers that were taken from you, were some of them young women? Were some of them young women? Some of them young women? Well, I don't want to say but everyone knows the people that were taken and it was the concept of taking people that work for me as men but that sure has been pretty well out there and the answer is yes they were. Yes they were young women. What did they do? In the spa. In the spa? Yeah, people that work in the spa. I have a great spa, one of the best spas in the world in Mar that work in this spa have a great spa, one of the best spas in the world

in Mar-a-Lago. My God, my God, my God, he's advertising the spa, my God. Jesus Christ. I didn't hear that part earlier. Okay. We're talking about the biggest pedophile ranking in American

history and you're marketing your spa. Do you see what I'm saying, guys? Everybody else already knows it. The left knows it, the independents know it, right? But for those of you on the right, can you not see what I'm saying, guys? Everybody else already knows it. The left knows it, independents know it, right? But for those of you on the right, can you not see what the rest of us

are seeing? The brother has no empathy at all. It just doesn't even occur to him. It's amazing. Virginia Joufray is the woman who had accused Prince Andrew of raping her. She has since committed suicide. And the whole thing is just this whole thing is so tragic and

disgusting and ugly and it's so sad and it's so horrible and it's so disgusting and it's so horrible and it's so horrible and it's so of raping her. She has since committed suicide. And the whole thing is just this whole thing is so tragic and disgusting and ugly. And it is well known by now that President Trump and

Jeffrey Epstein were once friends, but in the early 2000s, the two of them had their falling out. Now White House Communications Director Stephen Chung stated that the fact is that the president kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of his club for being a creep. Now that vague statement does line up with previous reporting about Trump and Epstein's

relationship. According to former Trump aide Sam Nunberg's 2019 account to the Washington Post, Trump said he banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago because of misconduct. Nunberg said Trump said he did so because Epstein had recruited a young woman who worked there to give him massages.

This was years before the Epstein investigation became public knowledge according to the Washington Post. Quote, he's a real creep, I banned him, Nunberg said Trump had told him. So why didn't Trump just say that

in answering questions from the reporters? I think that he just seems very flustered when having to deal or respond to this situation. Anything having to do with the Epstein files, anything having to do with his past relationship

with Jeffrey Epstein, which is actually very uncharacteristic of Trump. Oftentimes when he finds himself in the middle of some controversy, he has this unapologetic air about him. But when it comes to this issue,

for whatever reason, he behaves very differently. Now multiple reports, including a 2020 book by reporters for the Miami Herald and Wall Street Journal have linked Epstein's ban from Mar-a-Lago to alleged overtures to the teenage

daughter of a Mar-a-Lago member. Now, Virginia Joufray was again a victim of Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell's horrific pedophilic abuse. She was outspoken and calling for justice for all of the victims.

And she did sue Jeffrey Epstein back in 2009 and made clear what her claims were against him dating back to 2015. Other survivors have also stated that Joufray's courage gave them the strength to come forward with their own allegations and

stories as well. And as I mentioned earlier, tragically, she committed suicide earlier this year actually. And she was working at Mar-a-Lago at the time that she unfortunately met Maxwell and Epstein. So in 2000, court records show

Ghislaine Maxwell struck up a conversation with her outside a locker room at Mar-a-Lago. Joufray was only 17 years old at the time. She was a spa attendant at the club having gotten the job through her father who worked there

as a maintenance man. According to Joufray, Maxwell offered her a job at the spot as a masseuse for Epstein after seeing that she was reading a book about massage, telling her that she did not need to have any experience. She said that when she was brought to Epstein's Palm Beach home, she found him lying naked on the table. Maxwell, she claimed, instructed her on how to massage him. It's just absolutely

disgusting. By the way, that's the same Ghislaine Maxwell that Trump was asked about over the last couple of days and said that their pardon is still on the table. Why? Maybe it'll be off the table if

you remind Trump that Ghislaine Maxwell was Epstein co-conspirator in poaching his low level employees. That's the thing he apparently cares about, right? So- Can we just take Trump's fairly

recent comments about Maxwell and Epstein in context, right? Because it's not just about what he said in the context of this Q&A with reporters. It's also about him wishing Ghislaine Maxwell well when she was being prosecuted,

you remember that? And it's like, why did you wish her well, knowing that she's the one who went to Mar-a-Lago, was the one who recruited one of your 17 year old workers from the spa to be raped by the likes of Jeffrey Epstein?

Why did you wish her well? Why? And how does that not morally outrage you? If somebody was working here and somebody did that to them, I'd want to rip their head off. I'd want to rip their head off.

I mean, I don't know, this whole building filled with empathetic people would be enraged, right? Trump's like, you took a girl from my spa. I mean, that could have cost me a dollar or five.

What is wrong with you? Okay, so look, I'm going to go to our members because they made a whole bunch of really good points. And I want to give voice to them. These are all on tyt.com. Newfiedragon said,

am I asleep or in the twilight zone? Did Trump just admit to being upset that Epstein stole his young spa girls? Yes. Yes, yes, it's unbelievable. Okay, pessimistic progressive, sorry, Jar of Jam Bongino said,

always, always, always about how it affects him. Yes. Yes, he has no ability to empathize, but I think the best one out of all these great comments is pessimistic progressive. Wait, you're telling me the guy who

bragged about having the tallest building after 9-11 has no empathy, shocking, right? Yes, remember after 9-11, the first interview he does on the radio, he's like, now my building is the tallest in New York, which by the way, wasn't true, but

it doesn't matter, who cares, who cares? And he's like, no, I don't have the tallest building. I mean, who says that? Who says that? And not like 10, no, I don't have the tallest building. I mean, who says that? Who says that? And not like 10, 20 years later, like the day after.

Yeah. As 3,000 people are burning still in the rubble of the building. He's like, now my building is the tallest. And why do you think that people say that he, and I know if you're a Trump supporter,

you'll never believe it. You'll go the rest of your life never believing it, even though every other part of the puzzle confirms it. That he called people who were veterans, the people who were in the military, suckers and losers. And the follow up question was, I don't get it, why they do it. Because he doesn't understand why you would have empathy for any other human being. Why you would ever sacrifice for any other human being. Why you would ever sacrifice for any other human being.

Why you wouldn't always look out for yourself. And that's why this idea that he's actually looking out for the average man in America is so ironic and tragic. For me, I get his supporters who want to deny stories like the claim

that he called our veterans suckers and losers because they didn't hear it with their own ears. his supporters who want to deny stories like the claim that he called our veterans suckers and losers because they didn't hear it with their own ears. They didn't hear Trump say it for himself. But in this case, you hear it from the horse's mouth and the lack of

empathy and the real reason why he was upset with Epstein, I think is telling the fact that we still are not getting the Epstein files that were promised to the American people. But we forget the American people that were promised to Trump's base

in particular, I think is telling. And I do care about this. There are people who think it's a distraction, I totally disagree. When we have a situation in which we're now learning that there were four co-conspirators to what

Epstein did, and they were never prosecuted, we don't know who they are, that's a problem. Who are those people? Why is it that we're not going to ever get any justice for all of those young girls who were abused? And I would say that it goes even

deeper than that. It does, it does. Because if they're trying to brush it aside, it's possible that they actually mean it. They think like Kevin O'Leary, the only thing that matters in the world is the stock market.

I don't care about anything else that happens, right? So there are people that are one issue people like that. But generally speaking, the folks who say let's move on are the ones that have an agenda in saying that, right?

But for the rest of us, do we have any faith in our own government? Exactly. That's why this issue is so central, not because of the crime, which is horrific and historical in its own right.

But because it's so obvious that our government is lying to us and rubbing it in our face. Exactly. So we lose faith in all of our institutions if we can't get the bare minimum. Who ran this giant pedophile ring

that is out in the open and public which there are hundreds of victims that we know about? If you tell us it didn't exist, then we're living in 1984, George Emanuel was right about everything. The state told you that to ignore

the dictates that what you see with your eyes and ears, right? And that was their most important dictate, that you believe the nonsense that this despicable government tells you. And then has the media trot out and go, no, everybody bow their heads.

There's nothing to see here. Those girls rape themselves, shut up and stop asking questions. Well, we're not going to, it goes to the core whether we live in a democracy. When we come back from the break, we're going to revisit that doctored

video that was released by the Trump DOJ purporting to show the prison where Jeffrey Epstein allegedly committed suicide. There are some new statements coming from the Trump administration, we're going to share what those statements are and more when we come back. allegedly committed suicide. There are some new statements coming from the Trump administration. We're going to share what those

statements are and more when we come back. All right, back on TYT, Cenk and Ana, and also Crimson Cow, that's such a fun handle. Thanks for being part of the TYT community and allowing us to do this show for you, Casper. All right, well, we're going to revisit something that the government attempted to lie to us

about, and they're not making the situation any better for themselves. So let's get into it. Earlier this month, the Justice Department released nearly 11 hours of surveillance footage of the police officers to us about, and they're not making the situation any better for themselves. So let's get into it. Earlier this month, the Justice Department released nearly 11 hours of surveillance

footage from outside Epstein's cell. Now just before midnight, the time code jumped forward on the screen. A government source now alleges the government has a copy of that video that includes that minute.

But it's still unclear why the section was missing when the video was first released. Well, earlier this month when the Trump administration released what they claim to be raw video footage inside the prison where Jeffrey Epstein was being held.

Attorney General Pam Bondi insisted that there was a legitimate reason why there was a minute missing from the video that they released to the public. But according to CBS, the government may have had their hands on that missing footage this entire time.

And I don't know, Cenk, are you shocked by that revelation? What I'm amazed by is that they thought they could get away with it, isn't that amazing? And so we were talking this morning, we used to cover these stories by

the politicians like Mitt Romney would do it all the time where he tell two different crowds, two completely different stories. And they didn't get used to the fact and we would say back then, like 2011, 2012, do you not know YouTube exists?

Those events were taped and they're going to go on a thing called YouTube and we're going to be able to put them together. And their answer was, yeah, they didn't know. They were living in the 1980s and 90s, all of them are so

freaking old. So the government here is used to, we do an outrageous lie. Mainstream media says, it's the official story and everybody moves on. You're not getting it, brothers and sisters.

Nobody gives a damn what mainstream media says now. Online media is so strong and overwhelming, you think we weren't going to catch you on the missing part of the tape? You're nuts, budging competent fools.

One of the sloppiest cover ups in American history and there have been quite a few cover ups, but anyway, let's get to the details here. So in the video, so here it is, you're watching it. In this video, you can see the time

code on the screen jumped forward one minute just before midnight, which was strange. Online sleuths noticed it. So there you go. And when the suspicious jump was called out, Pam Bondi decided to give

an explanation. There's an explanation for this. So let's hear what it was. It was a minute that was off the counter. And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night they redo that video. It was old from like 1999.

So every night the video is reset and every night should have the same minute missing. So we're looking for that video to release that as well showing that a minute is missing every night. And that's it on Epstein. That videos from 1999.

Is she saying the surveillance system is from 1999? And does a maximum security prison that has this guy on suicide watch really use a surveillance system that dates back to the 1990s? Really? I mean, I think that's insane and

I'm not the only one by the way, because this is looking even fishy or a government source the 1990s, really? I mean, I think that's insane and I'm not the only one by the way, because this is looking even fishy or a government source familiar with the investigation says the FBI, the Bureau of Prisons and the Department of Justice Inspector General are all

in possession of a copy of the video that does not cut from just before 1159 PM to midnight of the night Epstein died. But I thought it didn't even exist. from just before 1159 PM to midnight of the night Epstein died. But I thought it didn't even exist. She said that every video that minute is cut out.

Right. And then she said we're looking into it and that was like a month ago. So where's all the minutes? So she's not even trying to make sense. And I'm telling you,

they just thought because they're generally right. Like even in the middle of this back then, when you said there's a minute missing, mainstream media was like, is that conspiratorial? It's right there in

front of your eyes. It's right in front of your eyes. The source didn't say what was on that missing footage or why it was even removed. And by the way, this person spoke to CBS News on condition of anonymity.

I need to know more, right? There's so much that's being kept from the American people, different narratives. Obviously that video that was released by the Trump Justice Department was doctored. Why was it doctored? But this reporting is fairly

consistent with other things that we've learned about the footage, right? So for one, in response to Bondi's claim that the missing minute could be explained by the camera system, experts in surveillance video, including video forensic

professionals told CBS News that a nightly reset would have been unusual and was not something they encountered in most video systems. I gotta give her credit though for being creative in her cover story here, right? How stupid is that cover story? something they encountered in most video systems. I gotta give her credit though for being creative in her cover story here, right?

How stupid is that cover story though, seriously? We have a surveillance system in this prison and not a big deal, it's just it skips an entire minute, like an entire minute. So what's the point of having a surveillance system when you know

that there's this loophole where bad things can happen in a minute, and people get away with it? So what's the point of having a surveillance system when you know that there's this loophole where bad things can happen in a minute, and people get away with it? Yeah, and so what's so frustrating about mainstream media is, look, this is CBS News, a really good story, right?

So every once in a while they do these really good stories, and you find out a little bit more. And then the very next day, they all have collective instant amnesia, and we'll call everything related to Epstein's story, conspiracy theorists.

Can I give you more details, because there's more insane details here. So for instance, experts also say that it's clear that a version of the recording released by the FBI was in fact edited and not raw as they had originally claimed,

they meaning the Trump administration. Jim Stafford was one of several video forensic analysts who looked at the video's metadata. Listen, Pam, you're the attorney general. You have to know what metadata is.

That's how people are able to determine whether or not you were messing around with the footage, whether or not the footage is actually the raw footage or not. But Jim Stafford said that the metadata showed that the file was first created on May 23rd of

this year, and that it was likely a screen capture, not an actual export of the raw file. He said the metadata showed that the video was in fact two separate videos stitched together. It was also slightly sped up, so the video covering 11 hours runs

approximately 10 hours and 53 minutes in length. And by the way, as we had reported on earlier, Wired had reported on July 15th that in fact there was more than one minute missing, okay? So here's the author of that article, the author is Dhruv

Marotra, let's take a look. The quote unquote raw video was actually stitched together from two separate clips and exported multiple times over more than three hours on a single day in May. When we looked at the metadata from the source clips, we found that

two minutes and 53 seconds were removed from one of the original files that they used. And that cut happens actually right before the now infamous missing minute, which is like a gap in footage that occurred from 1159 PM on August 9th to midnight following morning. And this doesn't just really undercut the claim that the DOJ has made that this video is raw and unedited. But it also potentially contradicts

the DOJ's explanation that the missing minute was due to a routine system reset. Because based on the original file that we're looking at, there appears to be footage that could cover the timeframe in question. Okay, so now you have the full

picture, and CBS asked the FBI and the Justice Department for a response to this claim from a government worker who's apparently knowledgeable about all of this, about their claims that the government is in fact in possession of the full footage,

but they declined to comment. The Bureau of Prisons though, said that they had no additional information to provide. And the final thing that I'll say about this that I find a little strange is, Dan Bongino just this past weekend on Saturday,

posted a pretty cryptic statement on X. Now, of course, he's the Deputy FBI Director and he said, during my tenure he's the Deputy FBI Director. And he said, during my tenure here as the Deputy Director of the FBI, I've repeatedly relayed to you that

things are happening that might not be immediately visible, but they are happening. The director and I are committed to stamping out public corruption and the political weaponization of both law enforcement and intelligence operations. It is a priority for us. public corruption and the political weaponization of both law enforcement and

intelligence operations. It is a priority for us. But what I have learned in the course of our properly predicated and necessary investigations into these aforementioned matters has shocked me down to my core. We cannot run a republic like this.

I'll never be the same after learning what I've learned. So you took a giant can of gasoline and just squirted it all over the fire, because what does that mean? What was meant by that cryptic statement? It's just, this is crazy.

And there's two possibilities there, right? So one is that Bongino is basically when he comes out of the administration is going to tell us what he learned. I hope. Because he's too embarrassed his

career will be over. If he comes out and goes, nothing happened, there was no clients and there was no file. And the girls ripped themselves, right? That's it's over for him, right?

So he might be saying, hey, don't worry, don't worry. I know you all hate me now, but I'm going to tell you him, right? So he might be saying, hey, don't worry, don't worry. I know you all hate me now, but I'm going to tell you later, okay? Or the more likely possibility is, my God, I found out that the Democrats are really evil. And I will be telling you about how

shocking that is, but don't ask about Epstein. Don't ask about Epstein. The Democrats have shocked me to my core. So if they do that, he does that kind of BS maneuver. Yeah, of course some schmucks and

mago fall for it, right? Some percentage of them will fall for anything which I'm going to come back to in a second. But a lot of them will be like, really brother? So there was nothing in the Epstein files.

But golly gee, you found two things about Democrats, and that's the thing that shocked you. So I don't know which one it is, but if he tries that BS, I don't think it's gonna fly at all. It might fly with some right wing shows, but it's not gonna fly with the podcasters and the independent shows. We're gonna laugh him out of the building. By the way, I would feel the same way if we had a Democratic administration in the position that the Trump administration is currently in right now.

If they just wanna to chalk this up to some sort of partisan scandal, I'm not buying it. For me, this is not a partisan story. I mean, look, as we know, Jeffrey Epstein ran around with politicians from both sides of

the political aisle. I don't see this as a partisan issue. If you're obsessed with making one side look bad by exploiting this story, I'm very suspicious of you. Because again, as Cenk had

mentioned earlier, and I totally agree with this, I think this story actually goes much deeper than partisan politics, much deeper. Okay, it has to do with injustice, it has to do with a cover up, it has to do with our government and

our institutions lying to the American people. It has to do with a possible blackmail operation, it's potentially carried out by foreign governments in order to get our politicians to serve their interests as opposed to

America's interests. This is a big problem. So don't let anyone make you think this is all about partisanship, because that's a complete nutter lie. It's again, much deeper than that. There's the reason why I hold out

some hope that Bongino is actually talking about the Epstein files and might say some things when he leaves is because he gratuitously threw in intelligence agencies. because the FBI is internal inside America intelligence agencies are supposed to be working outside

America, right? So why is the deputy director at the FBI talking about the intelligence agencies and how things he's seen has shocked him to his core? So that might be a hint there. But we're reading tea leaves

because nobody will ever tell you the truth. From the government, which then leaves me back to the point that I wanted to make about them. You ever see that movie? And I always forget the title of it Bartle know but

the Batman movie that Bane was in, right? That I actually loved and Bane has a great line into Batman there. He said victory has defeated you. And that is what has happened with government cover-ups.

They've gotten away with so many preposterous government cover-ups. Yeah, Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK from the state of Maine. And it was one bullet that traveled in 17 directions and hit him, but trust us bro, right?

Since all of those things worked with a very compliant media, now they're like, yeah, sure. There's a missing minute in every prison tape. Yeah, we'll get a deal later, brother. We're working around the clock.

But also the same thing goes for the Trump team. They really got the sense that Trump could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it. That their own followers would believe every single lie, no matter how preposterous.

So when they're not believing the lies about Epstein, they're kind of shell shocked. They're like what, we already gave you an excuse. Why won't this go away? Right, we already told you MAGA people to scoot.

We gave you a stupid excuse, and you're still not biting on it? Victory has defeated them. They got so complacent about it. And then finally, guys, the entire conversation is nonsense to begin with. That's not the hallway.

That's a common area. It's almost a totally random tape. Well, no, Epstein was not killed. You can see from this video recording we have of a strip law in Paramus. What does that have to do with anything?

The hallway is where they would have entered his cell. And they say, golly gee, the hallway cameras entirely not working. But in every prison, the hallway camera of the most important prisoner and

the worst pedophile in American history never works. Okay, if you say so, no, don't lose track of the fact that you're looking at the wrong tape to begin with. That's a great point. All right, we unfortunately have to

take another break. But when we come back for hour two, I want to revisit the ongoing famine in Gaza. The claims by the Israeli government in regard to allowing the flow of aid into the Gaza Strip the ongoing famine in Gaza. The claims by the Israeli government in regard to allowing the flow of aid into the Gaza

Strip and more. Don't miss it, we'll be right back.