The Young Turks - Trump’s Money Man FLIPS; Even A Majority Of Republicans Want Medicare For All

Episode Date: August 24, 2018

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. On a momentous day, drop it. All right, we've got a power panel on a day that I would argue ended the Trump presidency. I'm there, I'm there, I'm already there. Yeah. Okay.

He's just eager to win the bet we made last night of the post game. Well, that was the quickest bet I ever won. Okay, so we will explain. It's the first story up in a second, but first, juiceels dance them. You get it every time, and I don't understand how. Brooke Thomas, John Iderola. My name is Jank Huger. We got a show for you guys tonight, okay?

It's amazing. From the very first story to the very last story, the last story is, it's just the most amazing conspiracy you've ever heard in your life. You will not be able to believe it. But people do. People do. It's amazing. It's amazing.

So don't miss the end of the show either. Of course, you get the whole show at t.com slash join. Come a member, support independent media, and get all of our programming. But first, we start with the end of the Trump presidency, John. Am I supposed to leave like a spot where you can, da-na-na-na-na-na-no-no? No, I don't have the soundboard with me. So when he actually goes down, don't worry, the soundboard will be here. We'll see, okay.

This week just keeps getting worse for Donald Trump with another of his highest profile associates flipping on him, as he likes to say, perhaps the highest of all. This is Alan Weisselberg, chief financial officer for the Trump organization. You might have heard of it, it's affiliated with Donald Trump. It was one of the executives who helped arrange $420,000 in payments to Donald Trump's long-time attorney, Michael Cohen, to help reimburse him for hush money, he paid to an adult film star. Weisselberg is also one of two trustees of the trust that controls the president's assets. The other, to give you context, is Donald Trump Jr.

So this guy and Donald Trump's son, the one that he likes a little, those are the two people that control all of those assets. So this guy is about as high placed as you could possibly be. Yeah, he was granted immunity by federal investigators in New York in exchange for his truthful testimony about his roles in those payments. So that was the big break in news this morning. Indeed. This is as big a news as you can imagine. First of all, let me begin with my screaming, Weisleberg, straight ahead. Last voyage of the USS Trump Tantic. Okay. That's, you know, the guy who keeps Donald Trump's books. He doesn't keep Donald Trump's books on just Stormy Daniels or other payments to mistresses.

He keeps all of his books. He has been with Donald Trump, though, to be fair, only since the 1970s. He has all of his books, all of them. So now let's break down what this immunity deal means. The immunity means I need immunity because I have committed a crime. Second thing that it means is prosecutors ask you ahead of time, what is the evidence you're going to give us to see if we will give you immunity? They don't take it on blind faith.

They ask you, what do you have? And if it's good enough, they give you immunity for your crime breaking that you are law breaking that you are admitting to. So prosecutors looked at the evidence and said, mm-hmm, good enough. And they gave him immunity. He already testified apparently earlier in the year. That, by the way, might be the reason Cohen has already pled guilty and is cooperating with prosecutors.

It might be the reason David Pecker, who runs National Enquirer, is now cooperating. And has immunity. And has immunity. The rats have begun to leave the ship, not begun. They have left the ship entirely in the core group of Donald Trump. The only people remaining, basically, are his family members. Now, the political rats haven't quite figured it out yet. Washington hasn't quite figured it out yet.

They're like, oh, this is a very interesting story about an accountant or something like that, and it's in regards to hush money about Stormy Daniels. No, they have the books. The guy's a lifelong criminal. You could say, oh, Jake, you don't, oh, Mike, wait a minute, that's some assumptions. Same thing they said, when I said Mark Sanford was not on the Appalachian Trail. Okay, there was no way he was on the Appalachian Trail. Well, you don't know that, blah, blah, no, I, okay, we'll find out, but you're telling

me a guy, by the way, the crime that most likely Weisselberg committed and hence why he needed immunity was falsifying financial records. A guy who claims he has $10 billion, who has nowhere near $10 billion, who has all those shady financial dealings in his past. He didn't participate in falsifying any financial records? Come on, come on, come on, come on. It's over. It's over.

I'm ready for the count then. You guys have it? Okay, let's do the countdown. It's a count up, actually, to the end of the Trump presidency, because it's already over. It's just a matter of when he actually leaves office. So it's day one. It's a tiny one.

Tiny little track. It'll get bigger as we get closer. Okay, okay. Anyway, it's so tiny, I can't find it. Hey, hey, it's blocking half the screen. Can we shrink that thing a little bit, Jesus. Day one, I'm ready to take bets on how long it'll take, but it won't take long. It's gonna take a while.

You really, you're there. Oh, it's done. Yeah. You too. This is the guy who has, not only does he know where all the bodies are buried, but he buried like half of them under the direction of Donald Trump. So this is, I tweeted out today a link to the story and it's over. I do the same exact thing, so we're apparently on the same track.

To talk about, wait, wait, wait, but Jules understated it. He doesn't know where half the bodies are bird. He knows where all of the bodies are bird. Because if you remember the story about Donald Trump using his dad's accountant, basically the person who kept the books before Weisselberg, who's the chief financial officer of Trump organization, the accountant said, oh, Donald would barely pay attention in the meetings. Ivana, on the other hand, his first wife was smart. Okay, and then they asked him about his father.

He's like, no, no, his father was a good businessman. Okay, and he's trying to help Trump. So Trump cannot do his own books. He's simply not nearly intelligent enough to do the books. So Weisselberg has all of the books. And if you did any shady dealings, it's in the books. And the person handling the books must by definition know about it. So now, it is possible theoretically.

I don't know if the universe can even, you know, conceive of this theory, that Donald Trump has never broken any law from the 1970s to now. He's just the cleanest man you've ever seen. And so when they asked Weisselberg, you're like, yeah, I mean, there was a mistress with Stormy Daniels and the hush money, but that's all. And then maybe prosecutors will take his word for it. But I find that to be highly unlikely. It is possibly unlikely.

But as of right now, in terms of the cooperation deal, the way it has been described by all the people who are familiar with it is that it is about these particular payments. So Weisselberg could know about all this other stuff, but so far there's no indication that he's cooperating based on all of this other stuff. It's not impossible, I'm just acknowledging that. Look, I think that he probably does know a lot. I certainly think that Donald Trump has committed any number of crimes. But I also think, maybe I'm just being pessimistic or cynical, I suppose, but I don't think that we're operating under the normal laws. of, you know, the nature of politics aren't operating right now. Like, there are so many crimes that they could reveal that Donald Trump doesn't care that

he committed. His defenders don't care that he committed. His defenders in the media, many his defenders in the House and in the Senate don't care. And so there's lots of things that you can't do in politics that we've found out that you can actually do if you're shameless enough. I completely agree. I'm at this point where I just have to see it to believe it. I think that so many wild things have happened over these past almost a couple of years and so many people in power have just rolled over to so many things that I just, I don't, too many

people don't care. I know. You know what I'm hearing from you guys? Titanic can't be sung. It's an unsinkable stress. Okay. And what I'm here, what I'm telling you is Weisleberg, straight ahead. Give you more credit on that one now that you've explained it.

Can I add a little bit to it just to, because I'm fair. I'll boast are both arguments. As of this morning, if we're jumping ahead to grab the 13A. Don't leave me over here, no. You're already on my second. We're very glad. We're very glad. The Manhattan District Attorney's Office is considering pursuing criminal charges

against the Trump Organization and two senior company officials in connection with those payments, obviously. But officials stress that the office's review of the matter is in its earliest stages and prosecutors have not yet made a decision on whether to proceed. And I will say that this area, we're talking about state prosecution, state investigations and potential state charges, of course, gets around some of the supposed protections that the DOJ traditions, based on like one note from 50 years ago, says that he has. We had journalist David K. Johnston on the damage report earlier this week, breaking down all the ways this could play out, and then just a day later this actually happens. So it is not impossible. And I will say that if all they're talking about is Michael Cohen in the payments, and he has

gotten immunity, it doesn't make sense that he got a immunity to give information about Michael Cohen's lawbreaking, because although you could give more charges against Michael Cohen, they've already got him on a bunch. So it doesn't seem likely that they would push for that. That makes it seem more likely that they would go for someone higher up the food chain like Donald Trump. So I will admit that. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-E-The Republic or UNFTR.

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But I still believe that he will be present for at least 22 years. Okay. So, first of all, let me acknowledge that John is right that all the articles only talk about the hush money in regards to Weisselberg and the immunity. I was a little surprised that Cohen gave up and pled guilty so quickly because, yeah, they got him on the taxi cab stuff. The campaign finance stuff is really important. It's a federal crime. It's a felony, but it would have been hard to prove. But he was like, yep, I did it. I did it. It led me to think, what else do they have on them? And if Weisselberg already testified earlier in the year, the answer could be a lot.

I was super surprised yesterday. Even with all that we know, that David Pecker, who has no ethics whatsoever, runs the National Enquirer, did smear job after smear job against Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz, et cetera. His job is to lie. He's a professional liar. He's like, yeah, okay, I did it. Yep, okay. Immunity, please, immunity, right? I'm like, Jesus, what do they have on these guys?

So today, when we find out about Weisselberg, no, nah, nah, no, okay, so look, we'll all find out together, but I will tell you this, this is really important. Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats, earlier in the week we're talking about like, well, I mean, really, I mean, is it a really a big deal? It's not a priority for us in terms of impeachment. Look, before this week, I was not on the impeachment bandwagon. I think that there were things he could be impeached on, the Monument's Clause, the ZTE deal, and the list goes on and on.

But it would have been a tough thing to prove. It would have been a tough thing to win politically. And impeachment is a political process, et cetera. And I definitely don't think the Democrats should run their campaigns on impeachment or Russia or any of that stuff. They should run on the issues. But if you've got every single insider in the Trump organization saying, yes, Donald Trump committed a federal crime, Democrats, for God's sake, wake up.

You gotta go, you gotta go right now. So it is like if you're trying to calculate my electoral chances and how is it going to affect my political career, this is not the time for that. You want me to show you what it's time for? Give me graphic one here, Jesus. Okay. Is it the tracker? No, no, you'll see.

Okay, this is what it's time for. Maybe the tracker's up and I can't see it. It's so big. This is what it's time for, okay? You can get it to shop, t.com, maybe send one to Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and all the Republicans. So when you have his chief financial officer, his personal lawyer, his good friend who made up all the stories on his behalf and buried stories and paid for stories on his behalf to bury them, all turning on him saying, yeah, he's guilty, he's guilty. We committed

crimes together. That is when you start talking about impeachment. I think most interesting, not most interesting, but just like a funny little piece about all of this is the president suggesting that flipping should be illegal. Because I feel like I'm wondering, do you know how this works? Because if that happened, the federal penitentiaries in America would be just about empty. And if someone showed him the demographics of who's in there, I feel like he'd take that statement back. So look, I'm in favor of criminal justice reform. I'm not in favor of making cooperating with law enforcement illegal. That's preposterous.

I mean, it's the- that's Trump's no snitch. It's exactly. Absolutely how the fans operate, though. It didn't just start with him. Yeah. No, I mean, it is literally, he's literally tweeting out in so many words, snitches get stitches. Yeah. That's where we're at with the Trump administration.

Well, actually, I want to say something based on that, because this is something that Jank and I talked about off camera, but I don't think we've talked about yet. And it's because there are still people who say that Donald Trump hasn't done anything in any area. They don't believe that, you know, obviously they don't believe that there's any evidence of collusion or whatever, but they don't believe that there's any obstruction of. justice either. And certainly his defenders are saying that. And I've pointed out multiple cases in which in plain sight he was obstructing justice. But this week we had one of the clearest. And that's because with Paul Manafort pleading guilty to eight different charges, in the context

of still having another trial coming up in about a month, while they have been maybe trying to get Paul Manafort to flip now for literally months, if they're going to do it, they're now in the strongest position, Mueller and the prosecutors and all that, that they've been in ever. Because he is actually facing a prison sentence right now. So if he is going to flip, now is the time. And so what happened this week? Well, Donald Trump comes out immediately after the trial and says, you know, Paul Manafort, he's a brave man. He didn't flip. He wasn't one of those ones who flipped. The next day in Scotland, Rudy Giuliani says, you know what, Paul Manafort, as soon as this election is over, we're going to give him a pardon. And then when questioned

on that, the next day, he says, oh, we're just talking about everybody. Anybody can get a pardon. Not necessarily him. So what's going on there? The Mueller team, the prosecutors, might be able to get Paul Manafort to cooperate to assist in an investigation. And while that's going on, you have the most obvious public social media witness tampering possible, coming for both Donald Trump, who is one of the principal people being investigated and his lead lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

If that is not obstruction of justice, I don't know what is. I have a feeling, as little as I might know about the mechanics of obstruction of justice and investigations, Robert Mueller knows a lot more. And I have a feeling he was probably paying attention to both of their activities this week. Look, there's last two things that I am upset about in this story, potentially. One is, if the prosecutors are really just focusing on the hush money, and they didn't ask Weisselberg about all of the other finances, that would be the most, that would be the biggest case of prosecutorial negligence I have ever seen.

And that's the only thing that could prevent the end of the Trump presidency. Because maybe by some miracle, he could survive the campaign finance law violations and the obstruction of justice and the collusion and all that stuff. And in that case, you guys have a better chance of being right if the prosecutors just refuse to ask about any other financial improprieties. But if they start looking into his business dealings, OVA, OV-A-H, over, okay, to quote Spike Lee. And the other thing I'm disappointed is that Jules stole my stitches get stitches. Put it on a t-shirt, wear it next time. It'll make sense. Well, then maybe all the MAGA guys will buy it.

I dated a guy a few years ago, but he was telling a joke, and it was like about his little nephew snitching on him. And he was like, I told you, Snitches get stitches. And his sister jumps in and goes, no, snitches get out of jail early. So you better start telling. And then the other sister jump. and said, Weisselberg, straight out. Nobody knew what she meant. Handwriting, meat, wall.

Okay, next story, let's do it. Let's keep rolling. We're not taking the break? Okay. All right, no, no. We're on a roll, brother. Well, we're on a roll, but unfortunately, that does not make for a smooth transition into this. John McCain's family had a fairly somber announcement about the senator's ongoing

battle with cancer. Here is a portion of that. Last summer, Senator John McCain shared with Americans the news our family already knew. He had been diagnosed with an aggressive glioblastoma, and the prognosis was serious. In the year since, John has surpassed expectations for his survival, but the progress of disease and the inexorable advance of age render their verdict. With his usual strength of will, he has now chosen to discontinue medical treatment. And if you haven't been following this, Mr. McCain has been undergoing treatment for that cancer

since July of last year and has been absent from Washington since last December. Mr. McCain's family has apparently gathered in Arizona, and people close to him say that his death is imminent. So this is a sad story in a lot of ways, obviously. But I've never seen this in an article before. In Vox, not Fox, Vox. They said, when McCain dies, Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, a Republican will appoint a replacement to serve in the Senate until 2020.

Now it's true, we're all gonna die, so you could write in any article when, you know, Jake Ugar dies, et cetera, but I've never seen that about a public figure before, so apparently it is obviously imminent. I'm just, I know this, I don't want people to take this the wrong way, but I hope he can survive until Trump leaves office. That would be awesome. So I don't know what his situation is. I don't know if it's day-to-day, week-to-week, month-to-month.

Obviously, at this point, they've stopped treatment. And McCain is a complicated character. is a very interesting part of American history and certainly part of my political lifetime. In fact, I just realized McCain is the very last Republican I ever voted for. I voted for him in the 2000 primaries and then switched over and voted for Gore against Bush

in 2000 and haven't voted for a Republican since. And so a lot of people forget he did McCain-Feingold. He was actually for campaign finance reform. So that is an enormous positive for John McCain. Now, and he stood up to Trump at very important times. He even stood up to his own supporters when running against Barack Obama and refused to call a Muslim and said it's not right to say those things about him.

And obviously the thing that everyone remembers about him and showed up, with the notable exception of Donald Trump, that not only did he suffer torture at the hand of the North Vietnamese when he was captured. But to me, the most heroic part of all was when they said, okay, we found out you're the son of a really important admiral in the U.S. Navy, so we're going to let you go. And he said, no. I will not. Why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you, no matter the size. Whether you're taking over your parents' basement or moving to campus, IKEA has hundreds of design ideas and affordable options to complement any budget. After all, you're in your small space era. It's time to own it. Shop now at

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non-existent. It was one of the most grotesque things I've ever seen in politics. But I don't want anybody get me wrong. So you've got to be fair to John McCain and point out all those great, great attributes that I just talked about. On the other hand, man, he was a hawk. And he supported so many wars that proved to be completely disastrous. So at the end of the day, I did not agree with them politically, especially as he drove

us towards the Iraq War, which was one of the worst mistakes. in American foreign policy history, and in his later years, seemed to be driving us towards the war with Iran, famously saying once, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. Singing it. And singing it, that's right. So it is a mix, I don't know of a politician in this country that has a more mixed record than John McCain. A lot of people that have a terrible record, some that have a great record, but boy,

McCain is as mixed as it gets. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, politically, there's that. And then personally, it's awful. there's a family right now preparing to lose and say goodbye forever to their dad, their grandpa, their husband. It's sad. Yeah. I mean, I think it's worth acknowledging that John McCain kind of represents this old guard of Republicans that still had some integrity and hadn't totally like sold out their values

for, I don't know, racism and fear and hate because a lot of what he did, you know, when he stepped into the last minute for health care is, is admirable, you know. And it's, I think it's really telling to see what, you know, what are. Republican does when they don't have to, you know, appeal to this kind of like odd growing new Republican Party. And so I think it's worth acknowledging that, despite the fact that, yeah, we, you know, we don't necessarily agree with Republicans and that's okay. I think he's one that we can respect in a way that we don't respect sort of this new brand

of republicanism. I think that's exactly right. And I think Jules draws the exact right distinction. Because the older Republicans, and now a lot of them are retired, John Danforth. who, and I disagreed with these guys. John Danforth brought us Clarence Thomas, but he is honest and he is a principled conservative. Alan Simpson, I disagree with him vehemently, and we've had fights on air about he wants to cut Social Security, but he is an honest man and he is principled.

He also thinks money in politics is disastrous. Jim Leach from back in the day, et cetera. There was an old school Republicans that you disagreed with, but they were honest actors. The new Republicans are all supplied by donor money, grew up on donor money. And so they have no principles whatsoever. They'll do whatever their donors asked them to do. Now again, that leads us back to McCain. He definitely has some principles and some principles I disagreed with vehemently.

But we also have to acknowledge that he's a mix of old and new because he also voted for every gigantic tax cut for the rich, every gigantic war, and the list goes on. And, you know, to, and then to agree with Brooke, look, when you think about it from a personal level, if it was your family member, how do you spend the last couple of days or weeks? I mean, that is just heartbreaking beyond measure. Yeah, yeah, there was an HBO documentary about him. And obviously, to some extent, I mean, they had access to him and his family. It's going to be, like, it's an error on the side of pro him.

But it's a lot of interviews with people. And he did really seem to be of an earlier sort of politician that, yes, they still are doing, you know, what their donors want. Yes, they still do horrible things. And in the area of war, that's just about, if you're going to be bad in an area of issues, that's just about the worst area that you can be on. But he did seem to actually, at least on some level, care about the concept of America and the concept of what our government was about.

It led him to some terrible positions. But I agree with you. You can still, like some people would hear you say he has integrity and they would say, no, no, no, here's a bad thing he did. He doesn't have integrity. Okay, some people, their brand doesn't involve shades of gray. It's all about, this guy's about to die. I can probably get a little bit of a claim by Dunkin on him right now.

I think that's largely pathetic. I will say in advance, I'm going to do it when Donald Trump dies. So just prepare for that in a few years. But there are very few people that actually warrant that. Scalia might have been one. I think I tweeted a few things. But when it comes to John McCain, like he stood up for refugees largely, far more than most other Republicans.

As you said, some campaign finance reform. And he didn't seem to want to see the Republican Party become the party of white supremacy and Islamophobia and homophobia and all of that. And that's, it's just, it's part of being a mixed bag. And everybody has flaws. Everyone in a position of power, literally the politicians you love most have made horrible decisions in office. And those decisions, because they have power, are consequential for people's lives.

So you cannot simply go through life saying if I can identify a bad thing that someone has done, then I don't have to think critically about anything that they've done. Yeah, so let me complete the hat trick and agree with all three of you. So guys, it is entirely possible to say that yes, he did oftentimes serve the donors. But at the same time, he actually believed in this country and still had principles. And for the new brand of politicians, it's sometimes hard to say those things. Because oftentimes they don't have principles. All they have is service of the donors.

But John McCain, I would argue, did a lot of terrible things and acted in ways that were not always principled. For sure. At the same time, he wanted to clean up our government. He wanted to get money out of politics. Those are incredibly laudable goals. And at the end of the day, it is near impossible to argue, no matter how much you might dislike his policies or even him, that he wasn't a patriot. Just about the only person who could argue that in the country is Donald Trump. So, yeah. And by the way, I saw, so Jake Tapper tweeted out a section of an interview he'd done with him about a year ago. And he asked him, he said, you know, hopefully you don't have to worry about this for another 50 years. But if you were to someday have

to be remembered, what would you want to be remembered as? And in the span of one paragraph, he said some version of a man who's made many mistakes four or five times. But he said, but a guy who tried to serve his country. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, I think it's worth looking at this as we don't have to agree with the Republican Party. We have to live with them. And I would rather they'd be more like John McCain than like Donald Trump. Yes, for sure. Okay, now we really got to take a break. We have so much more for you guys.

The next story, you have to come back for the next story. I don't know where you'd be going. It's the internet anyway. But what do Republicans think about a single pair? Fascinating. We'll have that for you when we come back. All right, back on a young Turks. We got comments for you guys.

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On a recent one, we found out all about Brooks' life, although we're in part one. In part one. Next time I'm going to do part two. It's a tin parter. And I'm going year by year. Yeah. And I want to remind all of you guys that if ever there was a time to wear this, it is now. So let's look at graphic one one more time.

shop t-y-t.com, which is a sponsor, by the way, of old school. I love to joke about that. You were able to land them, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was tough, it was tough. They're tough over at shopty-t.com. And by the way, every time I wear these, including yesterday when I wore it, I didn't know about Weisselberg, but what I did know from Cohen was enough, and I wore that yesterday, and every time people were like, yeah.

I like that it could be his hair, it also looks like an orange slug. Yeah, it works on a lot of levels. I believe that is what his hair is. There you go, there you go. Okay, pretty interesting news here. This week has been full of incredibly positive polling having to do with Medicare for All. And we're gonna close on a week with perhaps the most amazing, fascinating results of all. And this comes from a new Reuters-Ipsos poll, found that 51.9% of Republicans would embrace a Medicare for All policy.

And also, you know, 84.5% of Democrats is obviously good. But that is a majority of Republicans. And I feel like nobody is actually prepared for that sort of thing. And again, as we always say when these sorts of polls come out, this is before the case has even really been made. I mean, you've had a few politicians. Obviously, during the last primary, you had Bernie Sanders, and you're going to see a lot more of it.

But most people still have not heard anything other than fearmongering and propaganda coming from places like Fox News and Breitbart. And CNN, by the way. Oh, of course, yes. And look, Jake Tapper obviously did his, as much as he could over the past week. Now, at the same time, understand that while all this polling is going on, two-thirds of Democratic nominees across 41 battleground districts for U.S. House seats also want to expand the government's role in health care, about a dozen support Medicare for all or a single-payer system. But what's most interesting was actually noticed by Jeff Stein of the Washington Post who said that if that Reuters poll is correct, then there's a higher percentage of GOP voters that support Medicare for all than Democratic Senate. senators. Oh, that's devastating.

Oh, yeah. But great credit to Jeff Stein, because he nailed it. That's exactly right. And that tells you everything you need to know about what's wrong with the system. And what I call the establishment, a lot of people call the establishment. And so what is that? That's not only the Republican Party, but it's also the Democratic establishment and a lot of mainstream news.

Look, here we do do nuance. It's not a black and white world. So Jeff Steins from the Washington Post makes a great point. That's part of mainstream media. CNN has had some positive reports recently. We've given them credit for that. On Medicare for All, they've been terrible. And it's not because they're bad people, it's because group think in the establishment is,

no way, no way, not practical, going to cost too much. But wait a minute, we showed you over and over again, it actually saves money. Not only that, look at how obvious it is. The rest of the developed world all has single-payer. They all pay less than us. Countries like Canada pay half of what we pay for healthcare, half. Our system is not practical. Our system is too expensive.

And yet, almost everyone on cable news, everyone in the Republican Party in terms of official politicians. And unfortunately, a huge chunk of the Democratic Party goes, no, we don't care what the American people have to say. In fact, we'll pretend they're against it, even though every poll shows they are. This one, it used to be at 60%. It's now at 70% of Americans saying, that's it. We want Medicare for all. And even in Mark Meadows district, he's the leader of the Freedom Caucus, the most conservative faction there is. They went poll there. People are Yeah, no, Republicans are like, yep, interested in Medicare for all. Yeah.

I'll quote one guy. He said about the government and health care. He said, either leave me alone 100% or pay it for 100%. And what I hear from every candidate that we talk to on Rebel headquarters is, whether they're talking to Democrats, Republicans, or independents when they go door knocking or when they make phone calls, they're all like, we're drowning. We're drowning in this health care bills. It's killing us, literally.

and we can't afford it, we can't afford the regular payments, and God help us if we get sick. We've terrorized our own country because no one has any kind of security when it comes to health, and they're tired of it. And I'll go even further. That's it, it's time to get past Obamacare. So Obamacare was better than the old horrible system, horrible, right? But it left private insurance in charge, and it did not control costs, and those costs are now killing us. And so those costs are now allowing Republicans say, oh, you see that

the liberal position gave you more costs. Hell no. Hell no, Medicare for all would save us a ton of money. It's time to go right now. And if the folks on cable news, et cetera, and in Washington, wonder why people don't like them and don't trust them, well, when you frame things in a way that is the exact opposite of what the American people want, that's why they don't trust you. It's not that complicated. Yeah. Voters have for so long allowed politicians to get away with making decisions that go against not only their best interests, but what they want and what they say they want. They've just let them get away with that. Like, oh, it's okay. I'm still going to vote for him because this is who would vote for before. And a good thing that has come out of the Trump era is that's changing. It's happening. People are making decisions based on what politician will do what they're asking them to do and not just get all these votes and then, you know, get in office and do. just what works best for them. And things like this, this is not the only issue, but things like this matter, you know,

as they're sitting with their very well taken care of health care. Real quick point of that. Trump is, a lot of the establishment thinks Trump was the end of populism. That he's a populist, now we all know he's a fake populist, and that once we get him out of office, it'll be over, right? No, no, no, he's the beginning of populism. He just started in the wrong direction. We're going to straighten it out.

And you know what populism is? At the end of the day, it is doing what the popular will is. There's another word for that. It's called democracy. I don't trust it. Yeah. Why don't we take another break? We've gone a little bit far into this hour.

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Okay. I've got a perfect story for you now. Okay, I'm going to intro this poifically. Shit, I messed it up. Okay. We now know that the National Enquirer coordinated with Donald Trump. and Michael Cohen, allegedly, to buy and bury stories of Donald Trump's alleged affairs in the weeks leading up to the 2016 election.

And so now that we know that, looking back at some of the stories the National Enquirer ran, some of their magazine covers from that period actually take on a very new meaning. So I want to focus on one. This is from October 31st, 2016. This is one week before the election, let's bring this up, and hopefully you'll be able to read these. So, look, obviously the covers about Hillary Clinton, her hitman tells all, which is interesting. You should read it. The hitman knows a lot.

So, and that was what they were doing month after month. Yeah, it's obviously she has an assassin, but we're moving to them. Yeah, she is an assassin, it's fine. But what's interesting is the specific things that Hillary Clinton supposedly did. So bribe reporters to bury the truth, which is interesting, but also specifically, you see on the right, hide her sleazy affairs and pay hush money, literal hush money to hook And this is after they have spent a couple of months buying up these stories, allowing hush money to be spent, not on hookers, obviously, but on mistresses effectively. Well, we don't know yet.

We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. We're just doing those exact things. It's like, okay, we're going to pay you off, do all this for you, hide this for you, and then we're going to flip it. We're going to tell the story and blame it on somebody else. No, no. Here's what I love most of all about this.

Because on this show, we obsessively talk about what conservatives do nonstop is projection. Whatever it is that they do, they say liberals want to do. Oh, the liberals want to control your life. You're in our womb. Okay, I don't know. Oh, the liberals want to, with Obama here, want to get between you and your doctor. No, you want to get between us and our doctor on the issue of choice. The liberals are for big government.

Let's go invade a country with our giant military. And we need a bigger defense budget, which is the largest military project that is. Liberals get offended so easily. I can't believe somebody said happy holidays to me, right? And the list goes on. The cups, the Starbucks cups. Hey, that's legitimate, come on that. I need a safe space from Starbucks.

Okay, but I mean, here it is. Projection 101. So they charged Hillary Clinton with paying hush money to mistresses, what Donald Trump did. Hide her sleazy affairs. What Donald Trump did. Bride reporters to bury the truth. Donald Trump worked with this reporter in this magazine to bury the truth and to tell you the exact opposite.

It's, and then destroying the victims by attacking them. And the list goes on and on. This is what Republicans do. I want you to get it in your head. Everything they feel, they project on to liberals. So when you hear them talking about liberals, understand that they're actually talking about what they think. And so the National Enquirer ran story after story after story against Hillary Clinton.

Well, let's bring up the next graphic, you'll see. Like this line, just right there is- Yeah, we're going to get to that line too. But John's right. Yeah, bring this up and bring this up. Okay. This is not all of them, by the way. Right. Man, some of those pictures are rough.

Did you know that she actually died? As they predicted she would. Well, I mean, let's talk about that, right? So there you see all those covers before the election. And unfortunately, a lot of people, believe in conspiracy theories. So like now that it's online and it is affecting politics, people are animated about it. But remember, people are buying National Inquirer magazines for decades. And what is it? Pure conspiracy theory trash. Whether it's against Hillary Clinton

or whether it's talking about the aliens that were invading from Mars and the, you know, they've been doing lizard people before Alex Jones ever knew what they? they were. To be fair, bat boy. Okay, that's right. That was weekly world news, but that was under the umbrella of like, what is the name of the American media? Yeah, that was one of their, American Media Incorporated. Yes, the same company. They, just in that picture, they gave her cancer, they gave her a, they photoshopped a picture and added 100 pounds on her. They gave her strokes. Yeah. But unfortunately, she's going to jail. She's doing great, surprisingly. Yeah, and so I wanted to build on that because, look, guys, let's keep it real.

Some on the left started to believe it. And that's how these conspiracies work. They spread like poison. And I remember the day that I said she did not have a brain aneurysm, people flipped out, and the right wing flipped out, but some on the left were mad. They're like, how could you say that one? It's obvious. Obvious how?

They're like, look at her performance in the debates. I'm like, did you watch the debates? Because there was someone with mental damage in the debates, and it wasn't Hillary Clinton. Right. Yeah, but they only let Hugh He would ask one question. People find out about a lot of devastating brain aneurysms because they die. Yeah, that seems to be common to that type of condition. And that's the amazing thing about conspiracy theory. Sorry, John.

They never make sense. Not only do they not make sense, no matter how much they're disproven, it doesn't matter. She was supposed to, according to these headlines, she was supposed to die within six months, which was now a couple of years ago. But she's not dead, and people are like, no, still National Inquirer's got to figure it out. Alex Jones told you that Obama was going to lock up everybody in FEMA camps. Where are the FEMA camps? And yet people are like-

We're all in a big FEMA camp. Ah, right? But they never, no matter how much you disprove them, you can't get knuckleheads to stop believing them. Even if it's something, like not six months from now, you'll forget about it in six months, but she gained a hundred pounds. Okay, she's on the TV every day while this is going on. Just look at her right now.

And I'm glad that she pointed out the fake news thing, because of course it has always existed. And we focus on fake news, which is designed almost purely to influence elections or social whatever. whatever. But the oldest reason for fake news is to make money, because if you write exciting headlines, people will buy it. And they don't care if it's true or if it's false. When it comes to this, I don't think that the National Choir has hated Hillary Clinton forever. I don't think that they cared at all that it was Hillary Clinton. If it hadn't been Hillary Clinton, if it had been Martin O'Malley, then Martin O'Malley would have been an alcoholic and he would have been cavorting with Venusians and stuff like that. So it doesn't really have anything to do with

her. And trust that in the next cycle, whoever it is, if it's Bernie or if it's, you know, Kamala Harris or whoever, they'll have headlines like this. And so you need to be prepared for fake news, both in its online forums and in forms like this. Like when they say that a person's about to die, whatever it is, if it feels really good and really right, question it just a little bit if they're getting paid to tell you this stuff. Because here is the amazing thing. I talked about this with Lori Penny on the damage report this week. The easiest thing in the world is for someone in media to look out in an audience or a potential audience and say, what do they want to hear? And if you can be paid by telling them that, a lot of people have no

integrity. They have no morals. They will do that. It's not just the National Enquirer. And in this case, they're the worst, maybe. But in this case, they made extra deals on top with Donald Trump, which now David Pecker, who ran the company, has admitted, gotten immunity, testified, and presumably testified against Donald Trump that, yes, we were helping him, ironically, rigged the election. But I want to be clear, like the National Enquirer, a lot of people look at this and say, I know that this isn't true, but there are other outlets that have sort of the veneer of credibility.

Like, I mean, Breitbart, I guess isn't one of those or whatever. But, you know, Fox News, like Tucker Carlson is talking about the white genocide in South Africa. And a lot of people believe, oh, that's a legitimate outlet. But they're still doing the same thing and largely for the same reason. And finally, I want to get back to Brooks' point about this line. Right. Hillary Clinton is a secret sex freak who paid fixers to set up illicit romps with both men and women. No, no, no, no. Think about it, guys. If everything else is projection. Oh, so I knew you were going to go there.

Okay. No, no, no, I'm serious. She said, it says, it says fixers. And in another headline, they're like, oh, yeah, Donald Trump, I'm sorry, Hillary Clinton has a Mr. Fixit, they said in the article. Gee, I wonder who has a Mr. Fixit, who arranged for a meeting with someone of the same gender and it involved being in a movie theater and they had a lot of details and everything else's projection. We don't need it and I don't care, right? But it does make you kind of go, hmm, interesting. If every other lie was the exact opposite of the truth, right? You're the worst.

You're just the worst. I'm not saying anything. I haven't said of work. I'm not saying, right. Okay. Okay, let's do the last story real quick. Oh, really? Oh, okay.

I did not think that we're going to get to that. Oh, I'm glad we are, though. Donald Trump's attacks earlier this week against his own attorney general, Jeff Sessions, actually led to the AG putting out a statement in defense of himself in the way that he is running that department. So I want to run quickly through this timeline. So it started off with Donald Trump,

both in Twitter and also on Fox News attacking him. Here he is on Fox News. Even my enemies say that Jeff Sessions should have told you that he was going to recuse himself and then you wouldn't have put him in. He took the job and then he said, I'm going to recuse myself. I said, what kind of a man is this? He stresses that he only wanted him for loyalty and why isn't he protecting me. He is admitting that he needs protection.

And he doesn't seem, he's too stupid to understand that. But because they can't simply call each other, he goes on Fox News, then the AG has to put out a statement in part saying, while I am attorney general, the actions of the Department of Justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations. I demand the highest standards, and when they're not met, I take action. I don't really trust any of that. But that's his response to Donald Trump. Is that going to be the end of it?

Of course, that's not going to be the end of it. and Donald Trump has kept up his pressure on the AG after that, including with these statements. He actually quotes part of what Jeff Sessions said, quote, Department of Justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations. Jeff, this is great, what everyone wants. So look into all the corruption on the other side, including deleted emails, Comey Lies and Leaks, Muller Conflicts, blah, blah, the stuff you hear about on Hannity every night. Let's see, he goes on, man, it just goes on the next one, just goes on Christopher Steele, the Clinton Foundation, aliens from Mars, illegal surveillance. Russian collusion by Dems, because Russian collusion doesn't exist except by the Dems, and so much more. Open up the papers and documents without redaction.

Come on, Jeff, you can do it. The country is waiting. Guys, nobody is saying this to him. If you have watched, I'll give you three, just three Law and Order episodes. Okay, it doesn't take anything, like just three Law and Order episodes. You know that if you worked, you essentially worked for the campaign, you cannot lead an investigation into it. That's not, nobody is saying he shouldn't have recute, no, nobody is saying that. I haven't seen anything, have we seen one person say that?

Sean Kennedy, I would assume. Yeah. So even sycophants like Lindsey Graham, so Lindsay Graham today, because he's just the worst of the worst, flipped and was like, well, I mean, you know, this is untenable with Sessions and Trump fighting all the time. So I guess Jeff should consider stepping down. Oh, you're the worst. You're the words. But even he said, well, I mean, he should have recused himself, to Brooks point. Easily awkward.

Like, he can't quite get him to say he shouldn't have recuse himself because Lindsay Graham was a lawyer. And he said, like, any lawyer would know you have to recuse yourself. But, okay, but I have to kiss Donald Trump's ass because I really want us to invade Iran. So, but sessions should step down. So there are people who are trying to protect him politically, like Lindsay Graham, Sean Hannity, you know, other guys like Gates, the Republican congressman who will say anything for. him, but overall, everyone, including most of the Republicans, go, no, no, of course he should

have recused himself. Not only was he part of the campaign, he lied about meeting with the Russians in his testimony to Congress. Jeff Sessions did. That's part of the reason why he did recuse himself. Yeah. Oh, no, I just wanted to say, I want to steal a line from Jordan Ull and say, if Trump does fire Jeff Sessions, please don't start a go-fund me for Jeff Sessions.

Oh, right, right, right. Right, right. That's awesome. Last thing that I want to point out here that's important, the tweet that John read to you guys, he quotes Sessions saying I will not be improperly influenced by politics. Then he says, that's great. Then he says, investigate the other side, which is- Let me influence you, sir.

Influence you based on politics. He literally says, investigate the other side. The other side is not something other than politics, he means the other side of politics, Democrats. And the thing is, there was a period where the IRS supposedly being unfair to conservative organizations was all the proof you needed as a conservative that the entire government under the Democrats was systematically biased against conservatives. Eventually we found out that it wasn't actually going on.

They were being super hard on libs too. But that was all it took. Here you have the president saying it. I want you, I have a long list of political enemies or at least people that Hannity says are my political enemies. I don't really know who they are because I don't do the research. I want you to look into every single one of them. Imagine if Barack Obama had done that. Here are all the non-profits and all the PACs on the conservative side that I want you to go after

and he was like adding holder on Twitter. Can you imagine how their heads would have explode? But again, we just, we get used to this stuff. And if there's a structure of justice, but it's in public, we assume, eh, I guess he's just, you know, being weird on Twitter. You're so right, John. I forgot about the context of the IRS. The IRS investigation, They claimed the IRS looked into a couple of conservative groups. We found out later they'd actually looked into more liberal groups. But IRS, and they were not wrong to look into those groups. They had to actually do an investigation.

It was perfectly normal. And the conservatives lost it. Here, the president is saying, I want you to go after my political opponents, the other side. I want you to target him. And he's saying it in public. If Obama had told Holder, I want you to take it. attack Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan and all my political opponents and not just attack them politically, but prosecute them. Yeah.

And here, the MAGA guys are like, yeah, that's right. The government should do political investigations of their opponents. That makes sense in a democracy. How dare you? They are CAG now. Is that right? What is CAG? Oh, yeah.

America Great. Oh, no. Cag. Okay, okay. It's just when you thought it can't get any sadder. It goes another level of sadness. Okay. They got to buy all new hats now.

Oh, yeah. Oh, maybe that's why they did it. More business for China. Okay, we gotta go. Thank you guys. We've got a whole new power panel coming up, kind of. When we return, those surprises are always fun. Who will be next?

And we still remember, we have so many great stories, but also at the very end of the show a conspiracy theory so insane it's just the it's the most unbelievable thing I've ever heard it makes the National Inquirer blush all right we'll be right back

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