The Young Turks - Trump’s tweet Rampage, Paul Ryan on Deficits, Sex Trafficking Law and Shania Twain

Episode Date: April 24, 2018

A portion of our Young Turks Main Show from April 23, 2018. For more go to http://www.tytnetwork.com/join.  Cenk reports on Donald Trump’s tweet rampage this weekend. Trump is not as rich as he claims to be. Paul Ryan on the added trillion dollar deficits, saying they were going to happen anyway.   Cenk and Ana, George H.W. Bush in intensive care. FOSTA- SESTA a law intended to curb online sex trafficking has some consequences that can threaten the internet and consensual sex workers. Shania Twain says she would have voted for Donald Trump if she could have. Kanye West tweets about his allegiance with Candice Owens.   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Meanwhile, enjoy the free podcast. All right, welcome the actors. I'm your host, Jane Huger. It's up Monday, so you're not going to be surprised to find out. We have a massive show for you. I don't know how we're going to fit it all in. A little bit later in the program, it looks like a terror attack in Toronto has happened. I think there's two amazing parts of that story. We'll get to that just a little bit later. The attack at Waffle House, the person who killed four people there in the mass shooting has been apprehended. I will tell you about that. We have very good. news and another major democratic politician deciding not to take corporate pack money. On that note, we're winning. On the note of the internet, we are not winning. So today we will tackle FOSA SESTA. That is a bill that is theoretically targeting illegal sex trafficking. It is doing no such thing.

It is an absolute disaster for the internet. Whole parts of the internet are already shutting down or have shut down. That's a story you've got to hear about. And then later in the program, Kanye West, I believe that I've been vindicated. I think he is Trump-level stupid. And it turns out, well, hangs around with all right guys. So a little bit literal in that case. Good news if Kanye West runs for president as he's threatened to do, I guess he would run as a Republican.

That's a primary I can't wait for. Anyway, the stupid on him is record breaking. We'll get to that later in the program. It's political and that's why it's in here. All right. But with all that tragedies and positive and negative stories in the show, I'm going to start a little light. Let's go over here.

Okay. And then we'll get serious pretty quickly. Anyway, over the weekend, Donald Trump added again, look, he's got a thousand crazy tweets. I don't have time for all of them. I just want to point out a couple of things that should be noted because we've gotten used to the fact that our president is a total moron, but I don't want you to get used to that because it is a startling fact. So here's one tweet. So General Michael Flynn's life can be totally

destroyed while shady James Comey can leak in line and make lots of money from a third-rate book that should have never been written. Is that really the way life in America is supposed to work? I don't think so. Okay, we highlight a shady James Comey there because it is misspelled. Look, one misspelling from a regular person on Twitter. No big deal. Who goes? cares, who cares, man? I don't like the grammar cops online either, right? It's the president. You should be a little bit more careful. And it is nonstop. It leads you to the belief that perhaps it's not just carelessness in one or two tweets, it's that the man doesn't know how to spell, he doesn't know any of the rules or grammar, nor does he have an IQ above 50. All right. Then he writes

this, just heard that the campaign was sued by the obstructionist Democrats. This can be good news and that we will now counter for the DNC server that they refuse to give to the FBI. The Wendy Wasserman Schultz servers and documents held by the Pakistani Mystery Man and Clinton emails, forget trying to decipher the rest of that insanity. Wendy Wasserman Schultz?

It's Debbie Wasserman Schultz. How could you not know that? How could no one stop the man or tackle him before he sends a tweet that stupid? Look, if you're a random dude out there, you're a dentist and you're not following politics and you think it's a Wendy Wasterman Schultz, we're going to let it go, it's not your job. She was the head of the DNC when he was running for president.

It took him nearly an hour to correct that tweet, but the insanity continues. Now I'm going to go back to March because it's going to be relevant to the last tweet. This is all over the weekend, by the way. I'm not cherry picking. This is not over the course of his term. If I did it over the course of the term, it would take an hour to go through his idiocy in these tweets. All right, so back in March, he wrote, special counsel is told to find crimes, and then

you see special counsel again, you get it, right? He's misspelling special counsel. It's not spelled that way. That's a counsel as in a counsel you put together of many people. Counsel that is an attorney is spelled completely differently, C-O-U-N-S-E-L. Okay, so he does that in March, and he does it over and over again. Fine, he's an idiot, I got it, right? But somebody talked to him before he does it again, and he did it again this weekend.

Let's go to graphic number one. So now, this is over the weekend, James Comealy legally leaked classified documents to the press in order to generate a special counsel. And what will the counsel do? And he does it again, of course, in the same tweet, because there's no end to how unintelligent and careless he is. There's no end to the stupid on that one, and there's no off switch. Someone in the White House, go to the president, say, sorry, Mr. President, but I, please

don't put out another tweet, misspelling special counsel. You know the thing you're really angry about? You know the thing that could end your administration and humiliate you forever? This is how it's actually spelled. But I guess that's the other disturbing part of this. One is we have a manchild, Joffrey Barathean, total ignoramus as president. And we've gotten used to it. Any one of these tweets, if Obama had done it, they'd be like, oh, yeah, you see that?

The black guy in office doesn't even know how to spell. They would have shredded them. They would have shredded them. The second part of it, though, is apparently the White House doesn't have one person who can clarify the president what reality is. Probably if you told him the real spelling, you'd be like, fake spelling. fake spelling. I'm not believing it. That sounds like the New York Times.

No, I'm going to go with the real spelling. He's surrounded by a bunch of sycophants. Yes, men go, oh, sir, you spell that so well. Do it again. And I'm not even talking about the weird capitalizations and the other insanity and the content, which is even more insane of the tweets. Just understand who's in charge. An out of control, maniacal, incredibly stupid mancham.

child. That's who's in charge. All right, I just wanted to be clear on that. We can move forward now. Okay. Speaking of which, okay, Washington Post, with a story out recently from Jonathan Greenberg, who interviewed Donald Trump, a long time ago in the 1980s to put him on the Forbes 400 list. Now, out of that story comes many revelations. Some of which we already knew and I told you about, but people wouldn't believe it. It was already in the record. Trump was never that rich. He's not that rich. Now it's not even close. He was never a billionaire. He's not a billionaire now. It's not even close. And his whole life and his whole career, he's been a con man. Now, you're going to see, and you're going to hear tapes of him actually pretending to be someone else

because he's a buffoon. So let me begin this story and tell you Greenberg's recounting of what happened in the past. And then we'll dive into the actual numbers. They explained it took decades to unwind the elaborate force Trump had enacted to project an image as one of the richest people in America. Nearly every assertion supporting that claim was untrue. Trump wasn't just poorer than he said he was. Over time, I have learned that he should not have been on the first three Forbes 400 list at all. In our first ever list in 1982, we included about $100 million, but Trump was actually worth roughly $5 million.

By the way, you'll find out later, all of his money, he inherited from his dad, built almost nothing on top of it. Just a privileged little prick is all he is. Okay? So back then, oh yeah, I'm worth $200, $400 million. We actually have facts. It turns out he was worth $5 million at most. At most.

Okay, that's a lot of money. And if you earn $5 million from nothing, I'd say you're amazing. and you did a wonderful job, et cetera. His dad just gave him the money. It's inheritance. He's such a loser. At that point, he hasn't even inherited. His dad's just giving him trust fund money.

Spoiled little child. Okay, he's talking to Jonathan Greenberg at the time about the condos that his dad owns, but he's pretending to own. You're going to hear that in tapes in a second. They're like what Fred Trump seems to have about 8,000, at most 10,000 apartment buildings in Brooklyn, Queens, et cetera. And Trump says, oh, no, no, it's 23,000, 24th, 25,000 buildings. They're worth $40,000, right?

And the guy goes, there's no way they're worth $40,000 at the time. This is in the 1980s. So Greenberg picks it up from there. He added that these were almost debt-free and worth $40,000 each. I questioned his valuation. Trump shrugged and said, okay, then $20,000 each. In other words, I'm making it up. What difference does it make?

You're not buying 40,000? How about 20,000? How about 20,000? Turns out it's not 25,000 apartments. It's only 8,000 apartments. And it wasn't worth 40,000 or 20,000. They were worth about 9,000 or so, according to the best estimates at the time, which made his dad a very, very rich man. He could have left it at that. But no, no, it's not my dad. It's me. It's me. That's who did it. Fred Trump later said, look, my son's a very competitive guy. And I didn't want to compete with him. so I'm happy to give him credit. In other words, of course it wasn't Donald Trump. It was Fred Trump who built that and then gave his schmuck the money.

In a 1990 court case, Trump testified that he had used false names in phone calls to reporters. So that's a fact that Donald Trump himself has admitted. Well, one of the false names was John Barron. And that's the name he used to call Jonathan Greenberg. And now, he wanted to go off the record. Now, people have used these tapes, and that's why I knew. this story beforehand, now we get more details. They have used

these tapes because Donald Trump, it turns out, was lying the whole time. You know what? John Barron, you are off the record. But it turns out it wasn't John Barron. It was Donald Trump. That's not how off the record works. So you're going to get to hear the tapes right now. So this is Donald Trump at the time

calling, pretending to be a totally different person bragging about how great Donald Trump is. Oh, that's so embarrassing. What a clown. Listen. Okay, what's your first name, that is? John, John, John, John. Well, let me tell you what the deal is, just so you understand.

Okay, Mr. Trump. But, first of all the assets have been consolidated to Mr. Trump, you know, because you have down Fred Trump, and I'd like to talk to you off the record, if I can, just to make your thing easier. Okay, sure, good all right. Yeah, that's fine. All right, but I think you can really use Donald Trump now, and you can just consolidate it.

I think last year somebody showed me the article, and I think you had 200 and 200, and really, it's been pretty well consolidated now. for the most part, as I also think somebody had mentioned that you had asked about that or somebody had, and it's been pretty well consolidated, okay? So that's one point that you can... No, is that just the... Is that including a residential room? Yes, everything's been consolidated, basically, now, and over the last...

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But the two is, as you know, very close, as you've heard or no, or perhaps you don't know. But Fred Trump is active in the business, too. Yeah, we have this really strange technical thing, Mr. Brown, in terms of who is, you know, who holds the equity. I mean, are you saying that perhaps for tax purposes it's been, the ownership has been transferred to to ownership? Correct. Correct. That's correct. Okay. And when you say, you know, in excess of 90% of the ownership, I'd say in excess of 90, in fact, well, it's really closer to even the ultimate, but it's in excess of 90%, yes. That's so Donald Trump, the constant senseless repetition and, well, in the obvious lies.

It's like, it's almost the ultimate, ultimate what? He means like that Donald Trump almost has 100%, which of course is not true. Fred Trump had it all at the time. And he's like, it's like the ultimate, but you can call it 90%. You can call it 90%. We're lying, so what difference does it make? 40,000, 20,000, whatever you want to agree to, okay? Just inflate the numbers, just make it seem like I'm really rich.

Now, if you're wondering why, I mean, other than the fact that he's a pathological liar, he's a con man, et cetera, he would then use the, of course. Forbes list to get more loans. Now, he couldn't prove that he had the money when you go up for a loan. And you're going to be amazed by this. But yes, people at those levels sometimes are this stupid. He goes, but the Forbes 400 list

says I have $200 million. So I must have $200 million. That's a little bit later. In the first one, he had, they claim, as Greenberg explains, that he had $100 million. And so it was a huge business advantage for him. And look, Greenberg is now apologetic that he didn't catch it

earlier, et cetera. But a lot of the media, man. They don't pay attention. When a rich or powerful guy calls in and says, I have this. They go, okay, yes, sir. And so they gave him a huge advantage. He never earned. But the main point is shamelessness. It's like, I don't care. I can't even get an assistant to call in pretending to be John Barron. I'm just going to do it. I'm going to change my voice, what, 2% or maybe 0% and then pretend I'm that guy and I'm just going to lie nonstop, nonstop about everything. I'm even going to throw my father on the bus saying he doesn't even run the business anymore. I do. So now let's get into more details about how pathetic this is. He said it would be

decades, Greenberg did. It would be decades before I learned that Forbes had been conned. In the early 1980s, Trump had zero equity in his father's company. According to Fred's will, portions of which appeared in a lawsuit. The father retained legal ownership of his residential empire until his death in 1999, at which point he left it to be divided between his four surviving children and some of his grandchildren. So when Trump was pretending to be that rich all the way up to 99, it wasn't true because he had not yet inherited daddy's money. Sad. Continuing, that explains why after Trump's companies went bankrupt in the early 1990s, he borrowed $30 million from his siblings. secured by an estimated $35 million share of his future inheritance.

He doesn't even have that money yet. He's like, but I'm going to get down his money at some point, and I promise I'll give it to you. Okay, according to three sources from Tim O'Brien's 2005 biography, Trump Nation, he could have used his own assets as collateral if he'd had any worth that amount, but he didn't. All the way in the 1990s, pretending to be rich has to borrow from his siblings because he doesn't have any money. Well, Donald, how are you ever going to get money? I mean, I hear you're a real estate genius.

Oh, not from that when daddy leaves it to me. Sad, pathetic, baby, more. That most revelatory document describing Trump's true net worth in the early 80s was a 1981 report from the New Jersey Casino Control Commission. O'Brien obtained a copy for his book. Trump had applied for an Atlantic City casino license, and regulators were able to review his tax returns and personal, corporate debt, giving them the most accurate picture of his finances. In some, Trump was worth

less than $5 million, not the $100 million that I reported in the first Forbes 400, Greenberg says. So, by the way, the $5 million is giving him every benefit of the doubt. It's not even clear he has that much, and again, it's all from his dad. So continuing, during our first interview, Greenberg explains in 1982, Trump informed me that he had bought the bar. Barbazade Plaza Hotel, an adjoining 110 Central Park West for just $13 million, a steal. While I was in Trump's office, a broker supposedly called to offer him $100 million for the property. Greenberg later realized, of course, that was a ruse and some associate who had called

him pretending to offer $100 million. That's so transparent, so stupid, but people buy this crap. Anyway, Trump refused to offer while looking me in the eye. He pointed out that his net worth should include an equity boost of $80,000. million profit, yet tucked away on page 63 of the Casino Commission report, was a section describing Trump's purchase of the property for $65 million, facilitated by a $50 million loan to Trump by Chase Manhattan Bank. As with many of his buildings, Trump's debt was far higher and his true equity far lower

than he claimed. whenever he has to go to court and he has to be honest, otherwise he might serve a prison sentence, all of a sudden he goes, yeah, yeah, of course, I invented characters and I called reporters and pretended to be myself, pretend to be someone other than myself. He has to go apply for a commission for a casino in Atlantic City. He's like, here's what I actually paid for it,

because he can't lie about that, otherwise you're in a lot of trouble. And again, could go to jail. So he's like, yeah, $13 million. I was lying. I bought it for $65 million. No debt, are you kidding me? I had to take $50 million in debt. By the way, when I reported on a lot of this during the campaign, almost all of the money that he borrowed was with his dad's co-signature in the beginning. Otherwise, nobody would loan this man child any money without Fred Trump backing it up with actual cash and an actual stake that they could take money from later if things went south, as they often did. Okay, more. Later attempts by Trump to paint himself as a fantastically wealthy were also duplicitous. In 1989, Trump sent Forbes journalist Harry Seneca a statement of his $3.7 billion net worth.

I have obtained a letter. It indicated $900 million in liquid assets. Now, first, if you're confused, let me explain. That says Trump writing out a piece of paper. I have $3.7 billion. $900 of it is in cash. That means nothing. It means less than nothing. It's almost certainly a lie and in this case proven to be a line again. So, but according to the New Jersey Casino Commission, which issued another report in 1991 by the end of 1990, Trump's entire cash position in both his businesses and personal accounts was just $19 million. Remember, he pretended it was $900 million. The amount was insufficient to pay the debt on his over leveraged casino and real estate holdings while still covering his personal expenses of $1 million per month. His net worth, the commission estimated, was $205 million, less than 6% of what he told Forbes. Again, the commission there gives him every benefit of the doubt, and then you've got the debts on top, and still, it's 6% of what he pretended it was.

At most, at most, and all of it left from his dad and co-financed, even the properties with his add. Okay, the largest portion of Mr. Trump's fortune, according to three people who had direct knowledge of his holdings, apparently comes from his lucrative inheritance. These people estimate, this is a New Jersey appellate judge. It's not even Greenberg. This is a judge in a hearing in the year 2011 now. We're not in the 80s. We're not in the 90s. 2011. Comes from his lucrative inheritance. These people estimated that Mr. Trump's wealth, presuming that it is not encumbered by heavy debt may amount to about 200 million to 300 million. That's in 2011.

Assuming it's not encumbered by debt, that's a ridiculous assumption. Of course it's encumbered by debt. And that's how, first of all, nobody walks up to a giant piece of real estate in the middle of New York and goes, oh, it's $500 million. I've got $500 million. I'll give it to you. No, all of it is leveraged and all of it is with debt. And that's normal.

Trump has usually more than normal debt, so of course that money's encumbered. He doesn't even have anywhere near that much, even though most of it, again, is from his dad. Finally, in 2016, Trump's presidential campaign put out a statement saying the candidate had a net worth in excess of $10 billion, and they capitalized it. So a judge in 2011 says at most $200 million, if you assume the $1 billion, if you assume the wild and outrageous assumption that there's no debt on it. Trump turns around five years later, it's not two or three hundred million. It's ten billion. That's what it is.

That's why he does scams like Trump University, try to take $10,000 from poor schmucks who are given their last dollar to try to learn from this idiot. So no actual billionaire does a scam like Trump University where people pose a picture of a cutout of Donald Trump, and there's no actual courses, and it's not an actual university, it's just meant to rob people of their money. He's desperate for money, because he's always on the edge of bankruptcy. He went bankrupt six times in his career, six different businesses he bankrupted, because he's an idiot manchild.

The only reason why he's gotten this far, unfortunately, is the media. The media never bothered to check how much money he actually had. Then they gave him $2 billion in free media coverage during their Republican primaries. Handed all this stuff by people go, oh, well, he says it. It must be Trump. He's such a big lie. It's so big. All right, we'll cut it down by half and give him credit for that.

No, don't give him credit for anything. Total pathological liar and con man. James T. Kirk had it right when he called him out on this a long time ago. Let's watch. Get it, it's a con, fun ending. Okay. At the end of a serious story, I'm still a goofball. All right, let's go rip up the Republicans.

Go to the next story. Okay. Paul Ryan goes on meet the press to talk to Chuck Todd. He just blew a huge hole in the deficit in the budget, I should say, created a $1.9 trillion deficit, which I will reiterate later just for emphasis. Chuck Todd's going to ask me about this. What happened? I thought you cared about the deficit, but it turns out, tax cuts for the rich

and you don't mind shredding the budget. Let's hear him out on his answer. I want you to respond to something Bob Corker said. He said this. This Congress and this administration likely will go down as one of the most fiscally irresponsible administrations and Congresses that we ever had. And he's referring to the fact that this tax bill

spiked the deficit. It's higher than even what was projected. And as we're a trillion, you walk away with trillion dollar deficits as far as the I can see. That was going to happen. The baby boomers retiring was going to do that. Wait a minute. We did not have a $1.9 trillion deficit on top of the one we already had. They're adding $1.9 trillion.

That just happened because of the tax cuts. That has nothing new with the baby boomers. We didn't have that the day before you passed the tax cuts. We had it the day after as a projection over what is going to happen over the next 10 years. That was added by the tax cuts for the rich. But what does he do? Oh, no, it wasn't me. Wasn't me.

I mean, the revisionist history is immediate. Because it's not just Donald Trump, who's a pathological liar. The whole Republican Party is premised on a lie that they care about balancing the budget, that they care about national security, that they care about all these things that they pretended to care about stopping terrorism, et cetera. No, there's only one thing they care about. getting the donors the money that they bargained for. They take money from the donors and they serve the donors.

Who are the donors? The rich and multinational corporations. Who just got a $2 trillion tax cut? The rich and multinational corporations. Other donors, defense contractors, you get all the wars you want, pharmaceutical companies. We're not going to do anything to regulate you guys. We're going to pretend that the opioid crisis is started by Mexico. That's what Donald Trump is saying.

Why? Protect the donors at all. They never meant a word of it. Fiscal responsibility, it was always a punchline for them. All they were looking to do is take your money and give it to the rich, and that's what he did. Now, there's another part of this that's very important. When he says, oh, it's a baby boomer's fault because they're about to retire. You know what that means?

He's coming for your Social Security and Medicare. Here, let's go to part two. These deficit trillion dollar projections have been out there for a long, long time. Why? Because of mandatory spending, which we call entitlements. mandatory spending, which is entitlements, that grows two trillion dollars over the next decade. Why does it grow two trillion dollars? Because the boomer generation is retiring, and we have not prepared these programs. So the mainstream media is too genteel to call it as it is.

That is a lie. That is as big a lie as Donald Trump has ever told. Just because Paul Ryan is civil to you guys and attends the same cocktail parties, doesn't mean you should let him get away with that monstrous lie. He said, all these deficit numbers have been around forever. No, they haven't. deficit numbers have been bad. Yes, they've continued. We know exactly what they were. No, Chuck Todd is asking you about the extra $1.9 trillion that you just added. That has not

been around forever. That is based on the tax cuts. So total, complete lie. And again, the second point, he says entitlements. Why is Social Security and Medicare an entitlement? Why do they use that word? It sounds like, oh, it's a bad thing. Like, oh, you people, you think you're entitled to it. Well, actually, the original reason why I was called an entitlement is because you are actually entitled to it, because you put it in. They take it out of your taxes every week when you get your check, whether it's weekly, monthly, or at the end of the month, it doesn't matter. You pay payroll tax. That goes to Social Security and Medicare, which you get back later. That is why you are entitled to it because it's your money. But Paul Ryan says, I already gave a tax

cost for the rich. So in this case, he's like, well, it's the entitlements. We got to cut those I told you that they would turn right around, and right after they passed the tax cuts for the rich, they would then say, well, I got to take it from somewhere. We have terrible deficits. I'm a Republican. I care about deficits. Wink, wink, wink, wink. I got to cut Social Security and Medicare.

Are you going to let him do that to you? That's what this monster Paul Ryan wants to do. Just because he doesn't misspell his tweets, he doesn't go on unhinged rants, doesn't mean he's not a monster, and it doesn't mean he's not a liar. He's going to try to rob millions upon millions of Americans of their Social Security and their Medicare because he gave those tax cuts to his donors. There is no one more corrupt in Washington than Paul Ryan. One more here. The current discretion system we have, the current spending system we have, it's not repairable.

You have to redo the system. So in the budget deal we did this year, we created a new joint select committee between the House and the Senate, Republicans and Democrats, That's to redesign the federal budget system. I've always passionately believed the budget system here is a broken system, and you have to redo the system. You can't just paper it over. This is why we have a committee now between the House and the Senate, which is going to bring to Congress a new budget system. That is what we have to do if we want to get this under control. New budget system, code word for, well, we've got to get the money from somewhere, and we're not going to get it from the rich, because that's who we see.

serve. That's where our campaign contributions come from. That's where the independent expenditures come from. We're going to get it from you. We're going to restructure it and rob the American middle class blind. And Paul Ryan's going to leave because he doesn't want to be part of the wreckage and he wants to go cash in. And I guarantee you now, write it down in stone. He will get paid millions upon millions of dollars by the people who just received those tax cuts for his corruption, because that's what Paul Ryan is. He's a corrupt politician who serves those rich and those corporations. Chuck Todd, give credit where credit is due. Those are good questions. You should have asked those questions. Now people need to follow up and call out Paul Ryan

for this obvious deception. And just in case I wasn't clear enough, I'll show you the graphic too. GOP tax law would add to the deficit. It used to be $1.5 trillion. They just re-estimated it to say, no, it is going to be higher. That's what Bob Corker said, made him think that that was the worst vote of his life. Oh, conveniently after he voted for it. But still, the number is $1.9 trillion because of the GOP tax law, not because of Medicare, not because of Social Security. Don't let him lie to you. That's what Paul Rice's entire career was based on. I'm glad that his opponent, Randy Bryce, is chasing him out of the Congress entirely, but you should put an end to all of the Republican lies because they're

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but actually has a number of unintended consequences, or maybe even intended consequences. It's known as the Fosta Sesta legislation, which again was signed into law. Trump signed into law the set of controversial bills intended to make it easier to cut down on illegal sex trafficking online. The House bill known as FOSTA, the Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act, was one portion of it. And that part of the legislation was combined with the SESTA component. And I'll get into the details of all of that in just a second. Now, this is problematic because of the fact that it infringes on certain protections that websites had previously. So it's known as Section 230, also known as the Safe Harbor rule under the Communications Decency Act that was passed in 1996.

Essentially, what it would do is protect websites from any type of charges stemming from a third party doing illegal things on the site. So, for instance, if Reddit happens to have a forum where people are soliciting prostitution, the people working at Reddit wouldn't be held liable for that. But under this new law that Trump just signed, they could potentially be held liable. So again, unintended consequences. I'm just going to jump in for one second, Anna. I believe fully that they are intended. But it's a mixed bag. I think that a lot of the celebrities that supported it did so at the urging of the corporations that they work for.

I think they had probably had good intent. Some of them might be surprised to find out what's actually in the law or the implications of the law. I think that probably some of the senators who voted for it did not intend it to have the consequences that you're talking about. you're right. And those consequences can be absolutely dire, as we're going to explain in a second. But for the people who orchestrated this, no, it was fully intended. This is part of an effort to shut down the internet. The window is closing. They attack net neutrality. Now with FOSA and Sesta, they're coming to knock out a lot of the smaller and mid-sized websites. And this is a backdoor way of being able to do that. And it's despicable. And by the way, somebody put out

some sort of nonsense rumor, which happens nonstop, that we were for this legislation. That's madness. We're 100% against it. Yeah, the allegation was that since we hadn't covered this story, which I have to be quite honest with you, was not on our radar. That's the reason why we didn't talk about it. But the allegation was since we hadn't covered it as soon as it broke, then we were supportive of this legislation. We are not supportive of it. Of course we're against it. And we actually spoke to Janice Griffith, who works in the porn industry. And she explained perfectly why this is actually damaging to people who work in the sex industry.

Take a look. One of the most bothersome things as of late is seeing Hollywood celebrities championing this cause in the attempt to fight online sex trafficking and to be very righteous when in fact they don't understand the law that they're endorsing and it's hurting consensual workers. as workers we've been speaking about these issues for millennia we've been asking people to listen to us we've been asking people to amplify our voices and instead people with influence are speaking over us and saying that they know better than us this bill will push traffickers further underground and out of the light and not only that but it will hurt consensual workers and has already started to do so These workers have been pushed onto the street from the closure of back page and our online communities where we can share harm reduction resources are disappearing. This law directly contradicts Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act that allows forums and social media and the like to exist in the first place.

So I want to be clear that there's two huge and distinct problems with this bill. what is about sex workers so it drives and the other is about the internet overall so let's talk about the sex workers for a second and soon by the way I'm going to have Nina Hartley back on the program

while I'll have her on rebel headquarters I did a long interview with her before she's an adult film actress a legendary one at that to talk more about it but in the case of sex workers this is what I mean by intended consequences people constantly put

sex trafficking in the same area as consensual sex workers. They're not the same. They're completely different. They're diametrically different. It's preposterous. So one side should be absolutely legal because there's nothing wrong with consensual sex work. And to say that somehow every person involved in that line of work is manipulated, cannot make their own decisions, cannot give consent, and is somehow part of sex trafficking,

is maniacal, it's puritanical, it's the kind of thing that Ben Shapiro says, oh, all porn is bad, all of this is bad, the morally righteous, both on the right and now, sometimes on the left, no, people can make their own decisions and stop lumping them in together. This sex trafficking is monstrous, but let us actually attack that issue. This bill doesn't even do that. It has nothing specific in this bill to actually go after the people doing the sex trafficking that's non-consensual. Putting that in the same camp together is done on purpose to stigmatize sex work and, by the way, adult films. And so it's part of a concerted effort to impose their so-called morality on the rest of us.

Right. So another thing that I wanted to mention was that this overwhelmingly passed in the Senate. There were only two senators who voted against it, including Rand Paul and Ron Wyden. Rand Paul, of course, is libertarian. Wyden is a Democrat. And Wyden had asked for an amendment that would further clarify this legislation, so it would not have a negative impact on smaller websites. And the Senate decided, no, we don't want to do that. And they decided to vote in favor of the bill in the way that it was already written.

And again, it has all sorts of consequences, not just for sex workers, but also to websites. And it's already had some impact when it comes to Reddit. Reddit has shut down certain subreddits because they're afraid. They don't have the ability to just monitor every little thing that's said on their website. And back page is gone. Craigslist has gotten rid of its personals page because they're worried that there could be criminal charges against them if someone solicits sexual activity. So this is already having a crippling effect. And it's something that, you know, we need to fight against because I do think that there are some websites, bigger websites who

want a monopoly and they want to shut down the competition. This is one way of doing it. And Hollywood wants to shut down the competition as well. Disney pushed us big time. Fox pushed this big time. And so look, and by the way, the progressive senators that are actual progressives that voted for this made a mistake. And I hope that they recognize. recognize that's a mistake. Yes, that includes Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. This was the wrong vote and they should make sure that they fight to reverse this. God help us and how we can reverse this. So now let me just do one more explanation of why it's so damaging for the whole internet. Because if you're on a small to midsize website, they now can turn around and say to you,

well, somebody in your comment section that you never even read offered up services and you didn't catch them. That's it. I'm shutting down your whole website. That's how they close the window on the internet. You don't have a ton of money? Well, the internet democratized the flow of information. And the people in the establishment, the ones with power, especially corporate power, they hate that. They don't want you to have power. They don't want that information democratized. They're going to come for all independent media and for these independent websites. They're going to do it through net neutrality and they're going to do it through this. But look at the three things that have passed so far.

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