The Young Turks - Trump's Violent Rhetoric

Episode Date: November 2, 2024

JD Vance reserved his most outrageous takes on trans issues for a sit-down with Joe Rogan. Trump suggests ""war hawk"" Liz Cheney should have guns “trained on her face.” A pregnant teenager dies after seeking care in three Texas emergency rooms. Elon Musk predicts, “Lina Khan will be fired soon.”" HOST: Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur), John Iadarola (@johniadarola), Sharon Reed (@SharonReedLive) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞  https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK  ☞   https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER  ☞       https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM  ☞  https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK  ☞          https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH  ☞      https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Jake Hugo, John Idol, let's Sharon Reed with you guys. Sharon's, of course, on Rebel Headquarters, check that out. RHU on T on YouTube and also often the host of industry. I'm disputable. Great to have you here, Sharon. I hear that John does a show called Damage Report. Which Sharon was on this morning. So there you go.

She's everywhere you want to be. Yep. Represent TYT Network. Beautiful. Love it. Okay, so huge news, big news, a couple of days before the election, and the tide turns. For the first time in a month and a half, maybe two months, I'm now back to slightly, I don't want, I'm hesitating, saying optimistic, but there's hope that Kamala Harris can actually pull this out.

So I don't know that she's going to. No one knows, no one knows, okay? But new numbers in have the Trump team worried. Fascinating, fascinating. There's so many amazing stories today. So, John, let's do it. Look, they have to do more. They're not insulting enough key demographics on a fast enough pace.

Start insulting more people. Get triumph the insult comic dog out there to the swing states, okay? They're trying. Yeah, there's got to be some important groups of voters for him to poop on. But anyway, we'll see if they can tap his services. But that said, let's talk about the latest scandal, starting with this. Long story short, I was talking of a very conservative woman at the Paris Air Show, who was from Mississippi, and she was probably 6570.

She says, she says, Senator Vance, I'm embarrassed to tell you this. But when I was in New York City recently, I saw a grown man who was walking around in a miniskirt. And then she gets very quiet. She said, Senator Fants, I could see his balls. He probably wanted you to see his balls. And you realize, oh, my God, this is not empowerment. This is not respecting lifestyle choices. He wants to be the VP.

Okay, so that is J.D. Vance on with Joe Rogan. And I'm sure the campaign thought, hey, the Trump talk with Joe Rogan went better than we expected. Donald Trump didn't seemingly soil himself or fall asleep during the interview. There were no especially large controversies or anything, let's send in J.D. Vance. And I don't know what this is supposed to be. I think that he's telling the sort of anecdotes about insane trans people that I guess he thinks that Joe Rogan's gonna be a fan of that Joe Rogan, to his credit, I guess, looked game to imply that if

one person wore clothing that revealed too much skin. You don't need to respect a group of millions and millions of Americans. But I don't know if it's really going to win over a lot of swing voters. Because the interview was weird in the clip that you saw. It's going to get even weirder. J.D. Vance is not content to just talk about people walking around on the street. He wants to bring it much closer to home for the people listening to that show. Listen to this. you have you've had you've kids i have a four-year-old and two-year-old every single day my four-year-old or two-year-old will come to me and say something that is bat insane because they're four-and-two yeah like my four-year-old will come and say daddy i'm a dinosaur right i'm going to take them to like the dinosaur transition clinic and put scales on them and the other thing is like if you were encouraging them and some parents it's just the i'm just going to say it even though it sounds gross they want their kid to be a part of the LGBTQ thing because it looks like a flag of virtue that they can post in their front long. Oh, look, we have a queer child. Like, oh, you're amazing. There's a weird thing about it

with some of these nutty parents where you could imagine them in care. There has to be some reason why this enormous percentage of Hollywood kids are trans. Like, how many celebrities have trans kids? It's new. It's not a thing that was going on. It was rare in the past. It becomes the social signifier for a lot of parents. I just, I will never be able to understand how two men who have been able to get into their 40s, presumably they're able to keep themselves fed, they remember to breathe oxygen, they generally put on clothing and all that, can't understand that there's a difference between something being more common and people feeling like they can acknowledge it at a higher

rate. That doesn't seem like a super complex concept, I don't think you need to get a master's degree to understand it, but there's a lot that either they don't understand or they feel they need to pretend to not understand to win over voters. And so, according to J.D. Vance, this is what he wants to focus on, by the way, and not just him and the Republicans, they're putting tons of money into ads that focus exclusively on trans people who are obviously the source of all of the problems in your life. The idea that a person who might be 14 or 16 or 18, or maybe 40 years old that thinks that they're trans is the exact same thing as a kid saying, rar, I'm a T-Rex.

And that's how we should talk about these people. We should imply that their best case scenario crazy, I guess, more likely they just don't know what they want and will mock about putting scales on them and stuff. Again, I don't think that this is a winning strategy, polls seem to indicate that even Republicans are sick of this focus because it's all they've heard out of these people for literally years. And we're gonna get to other issues. They talk about abortion, things like that, but Cenk, what do you make of this? Yeah, so I don't want to let his confessions slide by, and then I want to get into a projection

that he's doing. He said at the end of that conversation we showed you guys, we're letting a grown man walk around in a mini skirt in broad daylight. Yes, we are. That's called freedom. That's called America. So what do you want to do? You want to say you're not free, you're not allowed to wear any clothing you like.

Now tyrannical government is going to tell you what clothes you can wear and what you could look like and what you could do with your body. And like fundamentalist religion is back. And so you no longer have any choices and you have to follow J.D. Vance's version of religion. And by the way, he's Catholic now, apparently. I don't believe him at all about anything he says about religion. I think he's a giant fraud. I think he's one of the largest frauds we have in American politics. I think his conversion is total nonsense.

I think he's an atheist. I think he's a guy who was a liberal all along. That's why he thought Trump was Hitler. And the grip that he had was, oh, I fit into affirmative action too. Because I'm a, dude, you're a straight white guy. Oh, I'm a hillbilly. Yeah, I need to fill your hillbilly quota, okay? And so that was his way of getting into Yale and getting into these schools.

And by the way, if you don't know the history of it, look into it. Oh, and to be fair, liberals at the time ate that up. They were like, oh, hillbilly. Oh, yes, he's in a vulnerable community. And so he worked that angle. He worked it, worked it, worked it. And then he realized, oh, yeah, there's a better grift on the right. I can say, I can make up any crap I want and they'll believe it.

Right now I get to take away people's freedoms. and I'm going to get more power. Oh, my career is going to be even better than the other kids who went to Yale. Him and Vivek remind me so much of every snot-nosed kid that I went to school with who was like, I'm going to go to a better law firm than you. I'm going to a better finance place than you. So before you were a hillbilly going, hey, I need a quota. I need a quota, right?

Oh, please take me in the Yale, please, right? Now, Trump's Hitler, right? Like he's 40, it's not like he's 68 and had a change of mind in the middle of his life. He turned around on a dime, went from Hitler to, he's George Washington, we need to get him elected. And by the way, take away everybody's freedoms. All the stuff I said before, I don't mean any of it, okay? You walk around a clothing I don't like, I'm coming after you. So when he says that trans kids are doing what?

They're changing their entire gender to get into Yale? No, brother, you changed your entire identity to get into Yale. That's called projection. They're not anywhere near as greasy as you are, so don't label them that way because they aren't you. So I've got a friend who's got a transgender kid, man, we knew from day one, right? So you think that they changed to get into an Ivy League school at the age of six or seven or 13 or whenever, you know, it's a wide range, people realize.

at different times. Look, if he said reasonable things, we can get into 100 other hypotheticals, right? Hey, look, I'm a little bit worried about social contagion. Is it, you know, around the edges, et cetera? Obviously, I understand that there's a lot of people who don't have the same identity I do and I respect that and I believe in freedom, et cetera. But hey, I just want to make sure people are sure before they do anything before they get to 18th. Maybe we could have a reasonable conversation. But when you just smear and attack and say, no, no one gets to be anything other than what I say. That's not a, that was just a disastrous interview. We're just getting started on it. Sharon. Yeah, and he's a lawyer. And while I do think there's plenty of

interesting people to see some letting it air out in New York, I don't believe for a second that this guy had a 65 year old woman from Mississippi whisper a damn thing to him. It did not happen. Perhaps he was on a late night cat with Mark Robinson and the subject came up. It didn't happen. This is meant to divide us. This is meant to distract us. This is meant to keep from talking about the real issues. It's interesting. It's shocking sometimes for people. But he's a liar, okay? All he's ever done is lie and pivot and, you know, contort change into different things at different times. It's actually scary how many different personalities he's presented, not in the last 20 years, but in the last six months.

over the next 18 months or so, I think that's best case scenario for him. And the Trump thing isn't going to dominate the Republican Party. What will J.D. Vance be pitching himself as in four years? Who will he be? Will he be the next Paul Ryan? I wonder, I wonder. But in any event, as I did say, the interview got weirder. So we're to play two utterly bizarre clips, thematically linked. Here's the first. Look at where the gender craziness is the most common. It's most common. among upper middle class to lower middle class, white progressives. Think about the incentives. People are very good at rationalizing things.

If you are a middle class or upper middle class white parent, and the only thing that you care about is whether your child goes into Harvard or Yale, like obviously that pathway has become a lot harder for a lot of upper middle class kids. But the one way that those people can participate in the DEI bureaucracy in this country is to be trans. And is there a dynamic that's going on where if you become trans, that is the way to reject your white privilege, right? That's the social signifier. The only one that's available in the hyper-woke mindset is if you become gender non-binary. That clip right there is a great example of why so many people find the Joe Rogan experience

so frustrating and the fact that it's one of the most popular podcasts in the world. A guy like J.D. Vance, who is a known demonstrable liar, says the craziest thing you've ever heard based on absolutely nothing and Joe Rogan's immediate response is, uh, not, uh, that's BS, where are you getting that from? Show me one kid that has done this to get into Princeton, it's made up, he just made it up. All of that is insane. And if you were an interviewer, that is how you should respond to it. Unfortunately, Joe Rogan, I guess, thought that it was plausible. That yeah, families are like, you know what? You know what's super popular these days and not controversial? Being

trans, that's how you're gonna get into brown. Madness, nobody has ever done that. And even if they had, even if these things that we might define as being on the edge or whatever did exist in one case study, what other groups, fundamental rights rely on the presence of nothing extreme on the edges? Like for instance, there are people for whom them being white is the most important thing in the world, they'll kill people because of how proud they are to be white. We still allow other people to identify as white, we don't lock them up just because on the edges, some people take it too far.

There are violent, murderous misogynists, other guys are still allowed to be proud to to be men. You see how like the peripheral stuff doesn't necessarily define the government stance on an entire group of millions of people? The entire thing is utterly absurd. Before we discuss though, I do want to just turn to one more strange clip from the twisted inner workings of J.D. Vance's mind, take a look. And I think that frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if me and Trump won just the normal gay

guy vote because again, they just wanted to be left the hell alone. And now you have all this crazy stuff on top of it that they're like, no, no, no, we didn't, we didn't want to give pharmaceutical products to nine-year-olds who are transitioning their genders. We just wanted to be left the hell alone. So again, maybe there's other groups that would like to be left the hell alone. Have you considered that? And it's super rich coming from a guy trying to be the Republican VP to be like,

oh, no, we're super cool with like normal gay guys now. We haven't spent literally decades trying to bar them from donating blood, getting married, being able to adopt. Literally any right you can think of. Many Republicans are still actively trying to strip those away from even normal gay guys. But I guess, ah, now we're really focused on the trans people. So I guess we'll allow normal gay guys to exist and we'll turn them against trans people too. How about you leave all of them alone? How about you focus less than other people's sex life and what's going on inside of their pants, focus more on whatever is happening in your own twisted marriage, and be honest about what you actually want to accomplish as president.

Absurd, nonsense, and almost no pushback on any of this. I mean, when you said worried about what's going on in other people's pants, I mean, in that story in France, they're like literally looking down the, or up the skirt, oh yeah, I see the testicles, I see them, congratulations. Okay, yeah, you must be so proud. So I told you, first clip, you saw it right there, Projection City, because he had to find an angle. Remember what do you say? Oh, you're a straight white guy. You got no angle to get into Yale. Oh, he found an angle of being a hillbilly, right? Oh, you got to change your identity

in order to find an angle. Okay, so first, all of a sudden, you're a hillbilly, but then you're a Yale law guy and you're, you know, a guy who is sucking up to the liberal world, which he did. And all of a sudden, you change your identity to become a right winger because you were looking for an angle. You were a venture capitalist. That's how you. you made all of your money, you were created in a petri lab by Peter Thiel, one of the biggest funders in Silicon Valley, and then all of a sudden took a turn on your identity, populist. I'm a populist. Yeah, are you? Now, are you, are you a populist? Are you a right winger? Are you anything? Okay, all I know about you is you'll say anything to get ahead.

Okay, so now the other part of it is, oh, regular gay guys are voting? Are they? I looked with polling, seven and a half percent. Seven and a half percent. They're like, no, no, all the gay guys who are paying like Dave Rubin are on our side. Okay, and a couple of guys who want tax cuts. And then he said later in the interview, he said, actually, we think that supporting trans people is being homophobic towards gay guys. What? Okay, we're not even trying to make sense anymore.

So this is the kind of, you know what, if, and one more thing about that, guys, real populism is standing up for the average person, standing up for their rights, standing up for their freedom, standing up for their wages, health care, et cetera, looking out for the average guy and not the bankers or venture capitalists or giant Silicon Valley donors, right? But he can't do that because he works for the giant Silicon Valley donors and he is a venture capitalist. So he does fake populism of like, oh, yeah, don't we all hate, he is. people? Yeah, I'm such a populist because I hate people. That ain't populism, man. You're nothing

but a fraud. That was a good danger field, by the way. That's pretty good. Listen, he made an argument for suckers and Joe Rogan must be one. Okay, it's really that simple. To think that people are just running to alter themselves or be true to themselves just to get into one of these stuffy Ivy League schools is ridiculous. The truth is trans people are two and a half more times likely than the rest of us to be violently victimized, okay? They even have their property stolen at a rate two times the rest of us. It's ridiculous. And to make the argument that, well, white kids, upper middle class, white kids can't get into these Ivy League schools. So they're doing this is also ridiculous. The last time I checked, Harvard and some other schools had to get real

creative just to lay diversity things on the table and consider them during the admissions process. Joe Rogan didn't push back. He didn't push back hard enough at all in any way that mattered. J.D. Vance is just going on different outlets and filibustering and making it up as he goes along. And it's a sickness, but American people, some are still eating it up and taking it like it's fact as he plays to their worst fears. I also think that there's been a lot of great examples of like the facade that is right wing populism, but a guy like him who went to these sorts of schools, as you described, because of his own unique identity that he came up with, telling all of these people whose kids will never be able to afford to go to

these schools that they should be freaked out about the fact that fictional people who don't exist are pretending to be trains to get to that schools while ignoring the fact that the kids of wealthy people who already went to those schools can get an easy, free, clear ride in. And don't even think about that, certainly don't question that, utterly ridiculous. Oh, I gotta say one last thing about it. I know I'm getting obsessed on this topic, but are really a lot of trans kids thinking about going to the ivies? That's like their top concern?

No, that's JD Vance's top concern. They're trying to get through life. Are you kidding me? They're going through this traumatic experience or at least half the people in their life for most of them are yelling at them not to do it and they're crazy and then you got these These guys like JD Vance who are screaming at them and calling them all sorts of names, etc. And you think their top concern is getting into the IVs?

No, that's your top concern, because you're a greasy careerist. And you think they're gonna do gender reassignment surgery because they'd like to advance their career through the IVs? No, see that's JD Vance telling on himself, saying I would do anything for my career and to get into an Ivy League school, et cetera. I didn't even want to write the essays for these applications. He thinks people are strapped into a gurney. Maybe some people are more ambitious than me.

But anyway, there's one more topic that came up on the interview that we do want to cover. And it has to do with the attempt on Donald Trump's life. Here is J.D. Vance on that. Have fun. We'll see after Butler, PA. And then, of course, I go back to home to Ohio. Oh, boy. He gets shot.

You know, the initial reaction is I actually thought they had killed him. because when you first see the video, he grabs his ear, and then he goes down, and I'm like, oh, my God, they just killed him. And I was so, I mean, first, I was so pissed, but then I go into, like, fight or flight mode with my kids. I'm like, you know, all right, kids, you know, we were at a, we were at a mini-golf place in Cincinnati, Ohio, I grabbed my kids up, throw them in the car, go home and load all my guns, and basically stand like a sentry at our front door.

That was my, that was sort of my reaction to it. anyway. So obviously look, any violent attempt on a life of a prominent person in American politics is super scary. And so it's an area where I'm going to be much less critical of what a person like J.D. Vance does. That said, I believe almost nothing about his accounting of that. That he states away, was standing as a century. I don't believe any of that. I don't really care. I don't think that's a reason to not support him or whatever. But the idea that he was, that anger was his first reaction? The most opportunistic man in America was pissed when he heard that.

Maybe, maybe, I don't know. Other people had negative reactions to the way he characterized that as well. Nick Field says a great example of why Vance was a terrible VP pick. Instead of making up a story about how seeing Trump get up and pump his fist inspired him, Vance created a story that centers himself as the protagonist and his dystopian movie. And ghost offices of all the things that didn't happen, this didn't happen the most. And again, it's not that important. And maybe I'm wrong to automatically assume that he's lying about what happened.

But this is what happens when you're a person like J.D. Vance, where you lie about everything, where you turn on every position that you held just a few years ago, you don't, like, there's no reason to assume that they'd be honest about even something like this. I don't know, do you disagree? Am I going too far? No, no, I actually think that's one of the most representative clips. It's because, look, maybe some people on the right, you know, are in the wrong frame of mind to say the least, and think, oh, well, you know, I'm concerned about trans issues, and I saw a Matt Walsh movie, I'm weirded out, blah, blah, blah, all.

And so whatever Van says about that, I'm going to shut off my mind and agree with him, right? But on this one, they know he's full of crap. So why? Because we all watch the video, right? right? So I remember when I first watched the video, you probably remember when you first watched the video. You see that he grabs his head like this, and at no point did I think he's dead because he grabbed it, he was fine, and then he actively went down. But that's not the unbelievable part. Okay, maybe you saw it in a different angle, you saw it quick, and especially

because you're, that's, you know, your boss, your friend, whoever right, the guy you're running with, and you're deeply concerned. I believe that completely. Okay. Then he says, I thought he had died. He was down for about under the podium for what, seven seconds, 11 seconds. And then he came back up. You didn't watch, you just turned it off at four seconds? No. The whole video was about 45 seconds. So you went home and locked and loaded and thought that he was dead. Now come on guys, this isn't even close, right? So he's like, oh, I thought he had died. And so I was, oh man, I was angry and I went, oh, no, you watch the 45 second video like we all did and you knew he didn't die. Like I'm a guy who gave Trump a lot of credit

that day for, you know, getting back up and putting his fist up and, you know, led to a USA chant and I'm hokey that way and you could criticize me for and all that stuff. But at no point did anybody watching that clip think, nope, that's it, I'm not watching the rest of this clip. I've seen enough at four seconds. I'm going to go home and lock and load my guns. Lyer, giant lie. And why do you have to do that? You have giant secret service. protection. In fact, in another part of the interview, you talked about like, oh, the one thing that's different about my life is watching Netflix and the Secret Service is constantly circling the house. So what? It was a Secret Service not protecting you that day? That's why you're just

standing in front of the door with your shotgun like Clint Eastwood or Bronson. Oh yeah, man, I got this. He didn't do any of that. He's such a fraud. It's so frustrating when people can't see what a fraud he is. Sharon. Yeah, none of it's true yet again. And And a great point about the secret service. And I'm just going to say it. I think that he was giddy. I do. And perhaps that's going too far.

I think he was probably orgasmic at the thought of moving up to the top of the ticket. And how can I engineer this and manufacture this? I actually think that's who the guy is. And he uses his children and anything else he can. Look at the picture he painted. Oh, the plane putt, putt off. And then all of a sudden, our world was rocked. And it was just so difficult.

And I just thought, I'm so angry. No, he wasn't angry. He was orgasmic. I honestly believe that. I know, I all I can say is again, it's so hard to extend even like we we we trip over ourselves to give credit to these people because we want our politics to be saying once again. But with him, he's the guy who's talking about Trump being Hitler and Trump is surrounded

himself with these guys, J.D. Vance, Tucker Carlson, people who we know despised him. them and yet they see their career as being contingent on pretending to like them, pretending to be friends, pretending to be worried about them. It's just all so fake, I hate it. And I think that's one of the biggest issues for J.D. Vance, he's been quite successful, you know, in I guess venture capital where you don't need to be an actual human to do well, but politics is a world of being authentic. And I don't know if there are politicians that are more immediately snake-like in Gracie than

J.D. Vance, like he's on the Ted Cruz level. Like, you just see him and you think this is not a person I'd want to have a conversation with. There is nothing authentic or genuine about this person. In any event, we're going to take our first break. When we come back, we turn to Donald Trump, the head of the ticket causing more trouble for the campaign after this. All right, back on TOT, Jenk, John sharing with you guys. Also, Quagmeister and Alan Wade, who are American heroes, who hit the join button below. We appreciate you guys. And I am just going to read these two viewer comments because I like them so much.

And Mitrean wrote, wait, there's a dinosaur transition clinic, where? I want my scales and spines. Raw. Maybe there's a dragon transition clinic and maybe it's on the damage report. Think about it, okay? It can help you get into Yale. Yeah, I was once attacked by a dragon in the middle of the night. I had claw marks on my side.

Put me in a documentary. And John's from Connecticut and Yale's in Connecticut. So transition to dragons on any given day. Check out the damage report and you will. And worst case scenario, dragon said, L-M-F-A-O, love jinks, spoiled rich kid impersonation. Well, I've seen one or two in my life, so that's where it comes from. Anyways, John. Okay, let's turn from that to stuff that just might be slightly less fun.

Take a look. Is it weird for you to see Liz Cheney, that'd be Dick Cheney's repulsive little daughter, running against you with Kamala Harris? She's a radical war hawk. Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrel shooting at her, okay? Let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face. You know, they're all warhawks when they're sitting in Washington in a nice building saying,

oh, gee, will, let's send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy. Okay, so that is Donald Trump using the sort of violent language in regard to his critics. that has become, I guess just expected, almost cliched at this point. Although people's response to this particular comment really depends on what you think he was attempting to do there. He is, of course, conjuring up the image of Liz Cheney, a prominent critic of his, being surrounded by guns. He is also talking about the fact that she is in fact historically a war hawk, and he's gonna try to make that case in this clip. The reason she couldn't say me is that she always wanted to go to war with people. I don't want to go to war.

She wanted to go. She wanted to stay in Syria. I took them out. She wanted to stay in Iraq. I took them out. I mean, if we're up to her, we'd be in 50 different countries. But she's a stupid person. And I used to have meetings with a lot of people.

And she always wanted to go to war with people. Okay. So the fictional pulling out of wars that he definitely did not actually do aside. So you have a little mixed up situation there. He's referring to her as being a war hawk. He's pretending that that's why he has a problem with her when it's just the fact that she doesn't support him. Loyalty is the only thing that matters. But of course, the way that he chose to sort of advertise this idea to a crowd of people in the audience is to create the image of her being surrounded by guns.

Now, is this the greatest provocative thing that he's come up with? No, he has more directly endorsed military tribunals against Liz Cheney. His calls for her to potentially be tried and perhaps executed for treason have been more explicit in the past, but a lot of people are angry about this. And we'll just throw one out, Liz Cheney didn't appreciate this. She said, this is how dictators destroy free nations, they threaten those who speak against them with death, we cannot entrust our country and our freedom to a petty, vindictive, cruel, unstable man who wants to be a tyrant. And of course, Donald Trump has been talking a lot about the enemy within the enemy of the people, the military, the National Guard being deployed

against Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi. And so this seems to fit in a new genre of his vindictive focus. But what do you make of this? Do you think the criticisms are fair? Yeah, well, depends on which criticism you're talking about. So some folks are saying that he called for the execution of this Cheney. No, he did. He was criticizing her for being a war hawk. I'm sorry, that's true too, but a chicken hawk in particular. And I've done a version of this where I say they never want to go to war.

In fact, I've done it about Dick Cheney. And I forget if he got, oh, I remember now, he had five deferments. And I used to kid around and say that when the Democrats were running against him, they should say that he got seven. deferments so that he would have to clarify. No, I only got five from Vietnam because he didn't want to fight that war. And Republicans at the time, Tom DeLay, Gingrich, Trump, Cheney all had excuses like, oh, one of them said the minorities took my spot, really, they took your spot to die. And you were like, oh, no, golly, gee.

And of course, let's not forget the biggest chicken hawk of all, Donald J. Trump, who's like, I got bone spurs, I got bone spurs, right? Well, which foot do you have the bonus person? I forget, both, maybe. Yeah, it was a fake doctor's note that's already been exposed. He's a spoiled little child that got out of the war because his dad was rich. Now, you say, well, maybe he's not a chicken hawk because he's anti-war. Is he?

He just said to bomb Iran, right? He killed our top general. He moved to our embassy in Israel. He has done one provocative thing after another, after another, after another, after another. And then, and then of course, like a spoiled little kid, he runs away and goes, I didn't do it, I didn't do it, right? Somebody else broke that jar. Okay, yeah, maybe. So if you think this guy's going to lead to peace, I think you're totally and utterly mistaken.

His criticism of Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney, I got no problems with, I share that criticism. But in the midst of a race where everybody is worried about political violence, saying that you should point, that he, talking about fantasizing almost about pointing a gun at her face, not the right way to go. Obviously not the right way to go. And why I get frustrated sometimes that members of the press or the Democratic Party is that when they say that he called to shoot her in front of a firing squad, which I've seen, well, you lost credibility for no reason. And then it makes people go, no, he didn't say that. And then you can devolve into a conversation about whether Liz Cheney's a chicken hog, which she is.

And so is her dad. What about when he like re-truth the statement she should face a televised military tribunal? Yeah, I mean, look, what is these military tribunal? If people are accusing you of being a fascist, you should shut the F up about military tribunals. Unless you think that they're correct. He doesn't understand anything. He said, I don't know what they're calling me a fascist. I said terminate the Constitution.

I did a fake elector plot to overturn and steal an election. And then I want my enemies, my enemies from within, to either be shot by the military or going to go in front of a military tribunal. I don't know, I don't know why, okay? So look, yes, he says all those things, but when you say that he called for our execution and he didn't, then all of a sudden nobody's listening to you and I want them to listen. I want him to listen when he says terminate the Constitution and go in front of military tribunals. So this was a really dumb thing for Trump to say and it'll cost them at the same time, please

don't overhype because that is counterproductive. So frustrating. So frustrating. Anyways, Sharon. I don't mean to frustrate you more, but allow me to overhype it. I believe he was absolutely fantasizing about her death. I believe that he would like to see her hurt or killed. Remember, this is a guy whose best friends are Putin and the other guy who's in North Korea who loves to starve and kill his own people and push him off buildings and stuff.

So I know what a tribunal and nine guns pointed at her means to Trump, I think. We still don't know who left the pipe bomb outside DNC headquarters. As more he spouts off, people do weird things like, I don't know, show up on January 6th, threaten to hang people, a woman died, officers hurt, another officer dies related to this. I think he absolutely is fantasizing about killing her. He hates her, and he does wish she were dead. Well, here is what he is saying directly coming out of this. We have to be fair and bound.

So this is what he bleated earlier today. All I'm saying about Liz Cheney is that she is a capital W Warhawk and a dumb one at that, but she wouldn't have, in quotes, the guts to fight herself. It's easy for her to talk, sitting far from where the death scenes take place. Can I just pause for a second? Life is in fact not a movie. I don't know what the death scenes are. These are not scenes, these are actual things that happen.

And yes, actual people die in the wars that the Cheney's try to push us into. Actual people also die in the many wars that you inherited when you became president and you continued until the literal day that you were dragged, kicking, and screaming out of the White House. You did not pull us out of those wars. You've been whining ever since Biden pulled us out of one of those wars. And as you pointed out, he's making threats against Iran. He's the one talking about bombing drug labs in Mexico, effectively declaring war on Mexico.

As Marjorie Green does the same, he is in no way a dove. He would 100% pull us into other wars and support dictators around the world continuing bears. But he goes on to say, her father decimated the Middle East and other places and got riched by doing so. He's caused plenty of death and probably never even gave it a thought. That's not what we want running our capital C country. That criticism of the Cheney's is totally accurate.

And I, not a political commentator at that point, just a stupid college kid, opposed those wars because I suspected that's what was going on. Just for the record, do you know who did not oppose those wars? Donald Trump, who was on radio shows and said he didn't really seem to care whether we went to war, but like when he'd be asked to be like, yeah, I guess I support it. That's what he actually thought about it. As the Cheney's were war hawking or chicken hawking us into wars, he was like, whatever, I don't care, I'm just trying to get laid man.

Anyway, any other thoughts? Yeah, well, that X part is literal. I don't want you guys to not know that. He joked to Howard Stern that during Vietnam, avoiding STDs at the orgies he was going to was his own personal Vietnam, while others went to go die for him. So now, look, I'm going to do one last thing for the Republicans in a second. First of all, look, we have diversity of opinion here. I don't agree with Sharon.

I don't think that it was him doing a death fantasy, et cetera. But everybody's got a different point of view on it. I think the Harris team embracing the Chinese is a disaster, and if you keep talking about this story long enough, what it's going to happen is it's going to turn from Trump being unstable and saying things he shouldn't say to Trump being anti-war and Kamala Harris being pro-war. Be careful, just get in and get out of this story. He's unstable.

That should be the point of the story. I think people are making a mistake by digging in further. Having said that, one more thing about why this was so terrible. Guys, imagine if you're a Republican, imagine a Democrat said, oh, you know what, I thought Trump is a chicken hawk, he should have gone to Vietnam, he lied about the bonespurs, et cetera. And it's easy for him to say, oh, yeah, I'm so tough for battling ISIS and killing Soleimani, et cetera. But imagine if there was a nice gun pointed in Trump's face. You know what Republicans would do. They'd lose their minds.

Oh, my God, there was an assassination attempt. And this is what their Democrats are doing. They're trying to get people on to violence and they're instigating and they're the worst. So yes, same thing applies to Trump. Do not talk about pointing guns in people's faces, especially at a really volatile time like this. It's the bare minimum, but he can't ever do the bare minimum. Agreed. I just say this, I do think you're right that the Democrats should not lean into this.

It doesn't really serve any good purpose for them as we're so close to election day. But I also want to say this as Trump, he's right about the Cheney's and he's right about people getting rich off of war. But I think it's stunningly hypocritical for him to even go there as he talks about a bloody deportation of 15 to 20 million people as his first act. And I'm reading all kinds of things about how his rich friends will, they're already standing in line with their business licenses. they'll get rich off of that, could it ever happen? Yeah, and also, like, I think everybody knows why it would be a bad thing to send U.S. soldiers into a bunch of other countries to fight some sort of war building by building. But bear in mind that as you're alluding to, he is saying we should send the military into

American cities to root out millions of immigrants. Would he do that? Would he take a gun and start trying to hunt down members of Guatemalan gangs in Cleveland or whatever, because if he wouldn't, apparently he should shut the hell up about the whole thing. In any event, the final comment, the Harris campaign said, quote, this must be disqualifying. And I could be wrong, but my prediction is that it will not be. But anyway, we're going to take a break and we'll be back with more. All right, back on TYT, uh, jank John and sharing with you guys, Space Jam 1.

Thank you for the contribution through t yt.com slash 2024. We're trying to get to 100,000 so we can just stay on there and keep going before the through the election day. God help us or maybe you guys help us if you can, at TY.y.com slash 2024, although I hear we're super rich grifters. So where is it? Ask anybody at TYT where, where is it? Anyways, I will give one nice comment to myself if you don't mind. Jason Von Argos wrote it on TYT.com member section. Jake does a good, dumb Donnie, but Jason a little tune tells you to carry it off properly. Well, thank you, Jason. That's very nice of you on two counts. I appreciate it.

All right, John. Be better at being dumb anyway. Okay, laughing aside, let's turn to an incredibly sad story. A pregnant Texas teenager died after visiting three separate emergency rooms, desperately trying to get care in just the latest needless death highlighting the damage that has been done by the death of Roe v. Wade and the state restrictions on bodily autonomy that have followed. We're talking here about Nevea Crane, an 18 year old. You can see her in this photo. She had gone to two different emergency rooms inside of just 12 hours in October of last year, each time returning home feeling worse than before. She was only diagnosed with strep throat upon her first visit.

She had told them that she had a sharp abdominal cramps, but despite being pregnant, they didn't look into that. They didn't think that that was worth investigating. Medical records indicate that she later tested positive for sepsis, a potentially life-threatening condition on her second visit, but doctors still clear to leave after apparently confirming that our six month old fetus still had a heartbeat. Now, you might wonder, well, clearly there is something going on, maybe something should be done.

What does it matter that the fetus had a heartbeat at that point? Well, apparently in Texas, that's really all that matters. Texas's abortion ban that they passed after Donald Trump's SCOTUS killed Roe v. Wade threatens prison time for interventions that end a fetal heartbeat, regardless of whether the pregnancy is wanted or not. So we're not even talking here about just a situation where to save her health or life, they might have had to try to end the heartbeat. No, it's broader than that. If they intervened to save her life, not even wanting to end the pregnancy, and it did end the pregnancy,

those doctors or perhaps nurses or perhaps others could have ended up literally locked up in Texas prisons. And so when you find out that across multiple trips, they really wanted to err on the side of not doing anything, I think a lot of people wonder if all of that comes down to the law. And I personally think that it did. Now on her third trip to the hospital, Crane was finally moved to intensive care after after an obstetrician, insisted on two ultrasounds to quote, confirm fetal demise. Again, we can only do anything after we've confirmed that the fetus has already naturally passed, we didn't do anything about it, don't lock us up.

She died hours later after suffering organ failure. A nurse noted that by that point, her lips had turned blue and dusky. And so the latest story, multiple stories just this week about how Texas has led to this situation. We've seen it in other states as well. As one health law and policy professor emerita at George Washington University said, pregnant women have become essentially untouchables. And by the way, I'm doing all this speculation about how the staff at these hospitals have to err on the side of not intervening, even if they think.

it's not in the patient's interest because they don't want to go to prison. You know who else is saying that? Them. They are raising the alarm about this. In states with abortion ban, such patients are sometimes bounced between hospitals like, quote, hot potatoes with health care providers reluctant to participate in treatment that could attract a prosecutor. That is what doctors told ProPublica. In some cases, medical teams are wasting precious time debating legalities and creating documentation, preparing for the possibility that they'll need to explain their actions to a jury and judge. All of that, of course, has nothing to do with saving these women's life.

But that's what they're focusing on, because if they don't, they might end up in prison. So first, I wanna go through some things that were Republican-toring points, see how they aged. They claim that they are pro-life. Does this look pro-life to you? No, it looks like, hey, I have some sort of religious dogma, which I'm gonna point out every time isn't true. The Bible's pro abortion. Numbers 11, Exodus 21. You could read either. I don't talk much about Exodus 21. That's when a woman is injured who's pregnant. In the Bible it says, if she is killed, an eye for an eye, life for a life, you get to take that guy's life. If she loses

the baby, she has a miscarriage because she was attacked. They say, oh, that's just a fine. That's not a life. It's in the Bible, okay? But, and then in numbers, of course, if you think your wife is cheating on you, you take her to a priest and he performs the abortion through a toxic potion that God authorized. So, okay, you look into that and then you figure out why all all the politicians and religious leaders in your life have been lying to you. Okay, but this is not pro-life. This is killing people based on some sort of dogma because you want to control our lives, which leads to the second point. I thought you guys were against tyrannical government. All of a sudden, here's tyrannical government saying, no, I'm going to make the most personal

decisions in your life, and I might even kill you if you don't follow my dogma. Not your beliefs, my beliefs, okay? And then during Obamacare, do you remember what they used to say? Oh, this is going to get between you and your doctor. It doesn't get any more getting between you and your doctor than this. You see how Republican politicians are total frauds. They never mean anything they say. They're all talking points.

Meanwhile, decent, innocent people like this are getting hurt. Look, I'm gonna show you guys a video that we did at TYT. We have a division that creates ads. It's called rad ads and we just started a little while ago. And we did this ad for a Senate candidate and when we put it out, people are like, oh, well, that seems hyperbolic, is that really gonna happen, right? Keep this story in mind as you watch this ad we did earlier, watch. It's going to be okay.

There's a chance that the baby may not make it. If that's the case, then it could be misconstrued as an abortion. We don't want an abortion or pro-life. We want this baby. I understand, but you know about the new laws. We cannot open ourselves up to that kind of liability. But their lives are in danger. I'm really sorry, but my hands are tied.

There's got to be something. You just need to. I'm really sorry. Maybe another state can help. This isn't my choice. This is the government's choice. I'm sorry. Oh my God. Another state? Are you sure it'll cost you? Go! It's gonna be okay. I'm sorry.

Maybe if we've gone here soon ago. I don't know, just charge it, okay? I don't care. I don't want to talk about it anymore. Yeah, well don't you understand. We can't charge it. We are maxed out. It's all gone. Man, my wife almost died. We needed to take that ambulance. I don't think it's fair either. I don't make the laws.

I just follow them. This is how people voted. I didn't vote for this. Man, we wanted less government, not more. Sorry, I'm gonna have to have you folks vacate the house. So that was against Ricketts in Nebraska. But you could really fill in the blank on all of the Republicans that are running. You could fill in the blank on Donald Trump and J.D. Vance.

They all say, no, you shouldn't have that right. Big government should have that right. And if it means killing innocent women like this, that's just, I guess we're collateral damage to them. Sharon? Yeah, and it's even worse than that, because once the women die, you know, they blame the women and their doctors. Because the hospitals, of course, have lawyers making decisions as they try to read the fine print on these laws that make no sense. They're very deliberately confusing, convoluted. And then they say things like, well, you know, the doctors didn't know the law.

They didn't understand what was going on. And it's all just disgusting. 100%. Yeah, and I just want to mention, one thing that I mentioned on TDR and one of the thing. This happened in Texas, where's Ted Cruz? Does he have any thoughts about this? He has lots of thoughts about whether trans people are playing sophomore field hockey. He doesn't seem to have a lot of thoughts about this.

Women in his state are dying needless deaths and he's just silent about it. Just totally silent. Also, Texas is one of the abortion. abortion laws that has exceptions, you know, to save the life of the mother, does it seem like it's doing that? That is why I, when I acknowledge that states have exceptions, it means nothing. Do not gamble your life, the life of the people that you love on these exceptions that are written to do more to terrify doctors than to actually prioritize the lives of people who deserve

consideration. Yesterday, Elon Musk, who I guess is going to be in charge of the federal government soon, stated that the FTC chair, Lena Khan, quote, will be fired very soon. Now, I don't know if that's as a result of a conversation with Donald Trump or if it's just his preference, as you will find out. He certainly has incredibly biased financial reasons to want her thrown out of that position. But interestingly, while I don't know what Donald Trump is going to do in this area, Donald Trump's second biggest donor, as well as his running mate, J.D. Vance, might not feel the same. J.D. Vance has actually spoken more positively about Lena Khan.

Now, first, before we get to what Vance has said, why might Musk or other Republicans want to take Lena Con out as head of the FTC? Well, Musk was responding to a report by the GOP House Oversight Committee that is alleging that she has abused her authority as the head of that organization. And I'm gonna list the things that they say are evidence of her abusing her position. And I don't know about you, but I got vibes of like a checklist that Sean Hannity would put as a sidebar, it's like he's saying that they're bad things, but they all sound good. So they say that Khan tried to stop too many mergers, tried to litigate too many mergers instead

of just taking settlements. She didn't recuse herself from the FTC's lawsuit against META, given that prior to her term at the FTC, she had publicly stated that the FTC should oppose any merger attempts by META. She took inspiration from and corresponded with regulatory bodies in the EU, which I guess is bad, they're not even stating why that's bad. You're just supposed to assume that it's the EU, I guess it's bad. Anyway, she worked with European governments and attempted to stop non-compete agreements. By the way, the EU has been one of the few government bodies in this world that has actually been successful and interested in reining in some of these big tech companies, but I guess

it's bad to even know that that's happening. But anyway, it is not just Elon Musk and others in the orbit of Trump that are getting ready to get rid of Lena Khan. Here's Reid Hoffman and Mark Cuban speaking out against the chair of the FTC. Even Reid Hoffman conceded that he's not thrilled with all parts of the Biden administration. In particular, he strongly criticized Lena Khan, the FTC chair. He said that Lena Khan is, quote, waging war on American business. And he went so was so far as to say that he hopes that a president Harris would replace Lena Kahn at the FTC. And specifically, according to semaphore, Mark Cuban said this of Lena Kahn. If it were me,

I wouldn't keep Kahn on next year. And I know that lately Donald Trump has not been a big fan of Mark Cuban. Well, that's what Mark Cuban wants, Trump. You're going to give him what he wants? You should probably go in the opposite direction. But anyway, as I said, J.D. Vance, at least previously had sounded different back in February he said a lot of my Republican colleagues look at Lena Khan and they say well Lena Khan is sort of engaged in some sort of fundamental evil thing and I guess I look at Lena Khan as one of the few people in the Biden administration that I think is doing a pretty good job and I agree with him there and here's the thing

he is on the record as having said that he wouldn't do like an about face and totally change his position or anything not JD Vance yeah So, first of all, I got a note that my great amusement at, she's working with the Europeans. What was she supposed to do, not coordinate with our allies? Hey, what are you guys doing? What are we doing? Like, if she never talked to other countries about their regulatory agencies, that would be a reason to fire her. Hey, but they want to celebrate ignorance.

No, we shouldn't talk to anyone. Okay, she would believe she talked to an Englishman and a Swiss, a Swiss, okay? So now, the main point of this story is told you. All the donors agree. So Kamala Harris's donors, Reid Hoffman and Mark Cuban, Fire leader Khan! She's against corporate power! Trump's donors, Elon Musk, the biggest,

owner he has. Fire Lena Khan! She's against corporate rule. While he's pretending to be a populous, you know why? He's got a t-shirt on. So he must be a populist. He's the richest man in the world. He has over $200 billion. And over 200 billion reasons to oppose Lena Khan. Yeah. Because you know who Lena Khan is? And I love that she's the tough cop that they're all afraid of. Because like Main Street, Wall Street needs cops. These, another word for regulation is law. Their job is to enforce the law. So when she says, you are not allowed to have monopoly power, because when you have monopoly

power, then you could jack up prices on the American people and you can get away with things that you normally couldn't. In fact, monopoly power kills off capitalism. Please read Adam Smith, wealth of nations, please get an education, okay? Now Elon did get an education, the same place I did. And so he knows, but he's got a lot of reasons to want Lena Kahn out because the more he swallows things up, the more power he has. So the idea that Elon Musk is supporting Donald Trump because he's for the little guy,

no, no, it has nothing to do with his gigantic business interests. And when Trump says he's going to give him all of government efficiency and that he's going to cut $2 trillion out of the budget, oh, look at that one of the things he's looking to cut is the Federal Trade Commission, which would be the cops that would regulate him? Huh? All of a sudden they want to defund the police, okay, as long as it's the police on Wall Street. So that's now it's becoming your, and by the way, what's funny is that I don't agree with everything Lena Khan's doing.

So I think she should focus on other industries more than she's focusing on the tech industry. But for me, she's now become a person we must protect. And the reason is, like, if all of the corporatists say that she's their biggest danger, that means she's the one person standing in the way of them totally rooking us and enforcing corporate rule we can't recover from. So let's go, Lena Kahn. All right, Sharon. Yeah, she's got my vote to stay as well.

Elon wants absolute power, as you pointed out. That's really what he's after here. And it's just so funny to me how sensitive he and others are in corporate America that the minute that you start looking under their skirts, it's, whoa, we got to stop this at all costs. They should be investigated, followed track, do the same way they want women to be in our wounds. That's actually the kind of scrutiny that they need. And this is also something that people need to look at and understand that these aren't fantasies. This is what's coming our way in a second Trump presidency. He is so prepared.

He has all of his 1%. I don't even know if they're 1%ers. We got to call him, you know, a 10th of a 1% or something, if that makes sense. Elon Musk and all these billionaires, they will make sure that we don't have a comeback. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, guys, I'm worried that if he wins. they're gonna rob the place blind.

By the time we get back in four years later or anybody gets back in, there's nothing left. Because remember, Trump added 40% of the debt in just four years. That's an astounding number. On just the corporate tax cuts, he added 10% to the national debt. We're all going to be paying the interest on those loans so that rich people could get an even larger tax cut. And now they're saying we're going to gut the government of any cops on Wall Street, And we're going to give him another corporate tax cut. Bigger.

More, trillions more that are us and our kids have to pay for. So I'll end you on this. I, or I'll end on this. I won't end you on it, don't worry. You sound like Trump. Yeah. So last night I realized what the American Dream stands for. Donors rule everything around me.

That was the worst rap song in the late 80s. Anyway, I think that's it. All right, everybody check out Sharon Round Rebel Headquarters. Everybody check out John on Damage Report. When we come back, we've got a lot more amazing news for you guys. More on how they're planning to gut the government and Mark Cuban in another controversy. Interesting. We'll be back.