The Young Turks - Tucker on Cenk

Episode Date: October 15, 2022

Donald Trump says he is willing to testify in front of the January 6 Committee, only if it's live. Tucker Carlson just gave TYT a little bit of extra publicity. Roger Stone threw a tantrum after he found out that he was not pardoned and simultaneously calls Ivanka Trump an “abortionist b****.” During Senator Ron Johnson’s and Mandela Barnes’ debate, the audience let out a chuckle after Senator Johnson claims he was set up by the FBI. Representative Steve Scalise was just caught in a blatant lie. Host: John Iadarola, Cenk Uygur Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bexie. Big my team. I'm church, Jay Cougar, John Iarlow with you guys today. We will drop it in the second hour, don't worry, okay? But for now, me and John right now on the show. Look, big day ahead, tons of stories. Roger Stone, not just versus Jared Kushner, John, but perhaps against Donald Trump. Oh, pardon him. Let alone the abortionist B word, which we'll get to and actually say in a minute. He is the worst. Yes. And so there's tons of new stories. And of course, today's food for thought trivia. So if you're a member, well, actually, you're going to become a member today and still win it.

A hundred members are going to get $100 free in a blue apron gift cards. So sign up today, t.orgat.com slash join. All right, John, let's do it. Okay, we've got so much to talk about. Let's jump right into it. If you've been wondering how Donald Trump is reacting to the January 6th committee voting unanimously to subpoena him, not well. He sent a 14 page letter. that he totally wrote himself to Benny Thompson, the chair of that committee, has a headline, as letters always do, the presidential election of 2020 was rigged and stolen. So he hasn't learned much of a lesson, presumably, from all of this. Anyway, he goes on to say so many different things, and we're not going to cover all of them. He talks about the impeachment hoaxes of the radical left Democrats and all of that stuff.

But he goes on to say, this memo is being written to express our anger, disappointment, and complaint that with all of the hundreds of millions of dollars spent and what many consider to be a capital C charade and capital W witch hunt, and despite strong and powerful requests, what does that even mean? You have not spent even a short moment on examining the massive election fraud that took place during the 2020 presidential election and have targeted only those who were as concerned American citizens protesting the fraud itself. Who the hour is that begins that paragraph?

I have no idea. And that is only the first of many times that Donald Trump speaks out in support of the people who he has previously been forced to condemn that stormed the Capitol and tried to murder people and overthrow democracy and all that. He's back on their side. He's back on defense of them. In it, he rehashed many of the same claims that he's been making since January 6th, or even since November 2020, he claimed that he had authorized thousands of National Guard troops

to defend the Capitol, a claim that his own former acting defense secretary refuted in testimony to the committee. He just keeps saying it despite that. He says that the elections in Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania were all dubious because of reports of irregularities or suspicion about movement of ballots. Every single one was of course stolen. And he specifically says that black Democrats in urban areas stole the election from him. That's how it happened, basically. He did a state by state breakdown of all of this evidence. You can either read that in his letter or watch whatever videos Mike Lindell has put out recently.

It's all the same stuff. And he went on to say that apparently one of his biggest grievances was that the hearings weren't interesting enough. And so they were very poorly rated. The unselect committee was. It got very poor ratings during their show trial. Look, the ratings of the hearings are like the least important thing that has ever happened. But let's also keep real, the ratings were good.

The MSNBC was winning in their time slot. It doesn't matter. Nobody should care about that. But I feel the need to correct the record on that. So anyway, I don't know, Jake. So first, it should be noted that it is an amazing irony. that the right wing that claims to love alpha males has chosen a leader that is the weakest person in America, that is just a nonstop cry baby.

Like, you just poke him a tiny bit and he'll cry. It's like you could make a doll out of it, but oh my God, shop t.com. That's an idea, okay? We're going to look into you making Trump dot. You press the soft, soft belly. Right? Now, look, I'll give you an example that I think we'll clarify it for you. So, you know, we've talked about, we like Bernie Sanders, right?

We criticize him when it makes sense, et cetera. But obviously, he's fine. Overall, he's the top progressive in the country among politicians, right? Okay, good. So now, and Bernie also actually had a, not also, actually had something rigged against them. That was a 2016 DNC, the primaries, right? Now, guys, when I say that, I don't mean the votes, right? And so that'll piss off some super old school lives and stuff.

Oh, no, it was the votes. Okay, whatever, right? You've never presented good evidence on that. But did they rig it in terms of they funneled money to Hillary Clinton through the states? Absolutely. That's no question. It's basically a form of political money laundering. Did they rig it in less debates at the worst times, et cetera?

No question. Superdelegates. Yeah, the super delegates. All of those things were structurally meant to help Hillary Clinton, who they said was invincible. Then why did you have to rig all the rules to help her? Okay, anyway, so now all that did happen, and we did cover it, and we did prove it unlike Trump, who lost 62 court cases, presented zero evidence. But imagine for a second if Bernie was still talking about it.

And he was using this kind of language. The UNDNC did they, we're trying to against me. We're like, Bernie, focus, focus. Like we're trying to get minimum wage pass. We're trying to get this pass and that pass. And if at every time you talk to Bernie, he was like, I'll tell you what they're rigged. against me. There were a ton people and I had a very strong candidacy, but they robbed me. We'd like, what a weirdo. And we would immediately ditch him. He could say, oh, yeah, right. No, you

wouldn't. Oh, yeah, we just ditch Tulsi. Tulsi was one of the strongest advocates for Bernie and for progressives in 2016. The minute she's turned around and was like, oh, I think the right wing kind of rocks. Right. And she did it apparently subtle enough that some weirdo leftists are still clinging on to her skirt, right? Like, oh, yeah, Tulsi, she's the one, right? No, us were like, yeah, no, she's wrong, gone, right? But the Republicans never do that. Never, right? Trump's like, I've got to deliver for you guys. I'll get you more jobs, higher wage, I'm going to get you everything, we'll get your health care. Remember how he's talking about expanding health here? He didn't do any of it, none of it. The only thing he did was taxis for

the rich. And the right wingers are like, oh, he took my money and got. to the rich, like himself? Okay, okay, good, good. Okay, oh, he's still crying about the elections. I love people who are so weak to cry, keep crying forever and ever. That's my favorite. Little weak, you know what?

I know. I think I know. Okay, so all right, so that's Trump. But, of course, my favorite part of the story is what we're about to get to, which is Trump might testify. Come, come, please, please. please, come and find out. But John, they answer your question, why does he say things like strong and powerful requests, right? One, because he's a moron. Again, if anyone on our

side talk like that, I made a request, but who's strong and powerful? We'd be like, okay, weirdo, let's get someone else, right? The reason he says it because the request sounds weak. So he wants to say, well, I request it, but like, not like a weekly. I requested it was strength and power. Yeah. Child, child, idiotic child. And that's why even like the most basic, like beginning creative writers learn that you don't, you don't add more adjectives. You use stronger verbs. It's a demand. That's the strong word, not a powerful request.

It's a demand, okay? The English language is fascinating. You should look into it. He should definitely look into it. He claims he has. You remember when they had one time he claimed the best words. No, no, not only that. He said that he invented the word fake.

Yeah, it's still right. I bet that's true man, yeah, no, no, that didn't know, that wasn't in the English language, my whole life. Yeah, okay. Okay, so we're going to turn to the testifying in a sec, but first, you made claims about him being weak, which is obviously ridiculous. It takes a true alpha to use part of their 14 page whiny letter to include literal photos of the crowd. If we could go to Graphics 6. So the January 6th committee is making the case that you sent a bunch of people from your rally to go attack the Capitol and you respond to that by saying, look how many people I told to attack the Capitol.

Oh, okay, I guess. That at least, I think those are authentic photos, which means that we have evolved, okay? Because he's actually showing real photos of the crowds he's drawn. but I don't see how that makes things better for him. My rioters and insurrectionists were strong and powerful. Did I accidentally just admit I'm guilty? Yeah, you kind of did. Oops. Capital O, oops.

Okay, let's turn now to potentially more important stuff. The question now is, will Donald Trump actually come in? January 6th committee apparently wants him to. Is he going to do it? Well, he has publicly attacked the committee, okay, but he has been telling AIDS privately that he favors testifying before the panel as long as he gets to do so live. Now, the lawmakers have rejected similar demands from other witnesses, but preliminary discussions among the panel members indicated more openness to.

to a live interview with Mr. Trump, which is, that is fascinating, because obviously doing it or not is one thing, doing it live or not is potentially even more important. A Trump advisor apparently told the Daily Beast on Thursday evening that he should not. We don't know who that advisor is. I assume his legal team is desperately trying to get him to not do that. But we know who Donald Trump is, and we know he loves talking to a camera, we know he loves lying about the election. This is a great opportunity to do both of those things before a lot of people. So what do you think at this point? You think he's going to do it? Well, look, first I want to

address his supporters. Do you think he's really smart and really right on this issue? Or do you think he's a dumbass and totally guilty? Because that should determine logically whether you want him to testify or not. Look, I've testified before. And when they asked me to testify, since I was right, I wasn't like, I don't want to testify. No, I wasn't testified happily. And I did great, right? Because I was right. So what is it, guys? Do you want? Like, if you really believed it, again, let's say Bernie was asked to testify. Are you really in favor of higher wages? Yeah, great. Are you kidding me on national TV? Great. Let's do that immediately, right? But you know what you're thinking MAGA, you're thinking, don't, don't go, don't go.

They'll say things like, uh, it's a perjury trap. Not unless you intend to lie. Well, hold on, are you, when you say MAGA there, are you talking about his legal team advisors and maybe Fox News hosts? Are you talking about regular MAGA people? No, no, no, I'm talking about regular MAGA. Because I bet they want to see him testify more than anything in the world. Come on, push him to do it.

Because all of his advisors and all the Fox News hosts already know he's a dumb ass, right? They have been lying to their audience the entire time. If you ask Tucker Carlson, his real opinion, should Trump testify? He would tackle him to have him not testify. No, when you corner Tucker, he lies. He's already told us that. So, of course not. Look, guys, Magger guys, you don't get it.

All of your leaders already know what you don't know. Trump is one of the dumbest guys in politics. And he is a pathological liar. Why do they know it a little bit better than you do, even though, come on, guys. How long is it going to take you to figure it out, right? because they deal with him every day on a personal level. So he'll be like, get me a Diet Coke and you get him a Diet Coke. I didn't ask for that.

You're like, he can't help himself. That's why we call it pathological, right? So if he went to go testify, minimum every other sentence would be a perjury charge. Right? He lies nonstop, right? So of course, all of his advisors are like, no, whatever you do, do not testify under oath. By the way, I mean, you see, we'll talk more about it later in the show with Roger Stone, but they all are like, oh my God, the Democrats are going to get us and they're going to

if we are lying under oath, they're going to put us in prison. Oh, for January 6, he wanted to pardon because they were going to put, have you guys met the Democrats? Democrats has still not gotten Trump under oath once. Yeah. None of the prosecutors in the country for all the laws that he's ever broken have ever gotten them under to oath once. All you got to do is get a one or oath. He just sit back, relax, enjoy the show. He'll give you hours and hours. of lies because he can't help himself. But Magga, guys, you think I'm wrong. Oh, he's the most honest guy I would say.

Great, great. They encourage him. Send him notes. You love it. Oh, great Lion King. He's, you know, did the King of the Lion video the other day. Oh, the Jackals are nipping at your heels. Go crush the Jackals.

Live TV, okay. Testify. Show him what you got. You're so right. Okay, I would love to see that. By the way, John, don't get me wrong. It's not impossible for the Democrats to blow. Oh, sure, yeah, like Trump could testify and they'd be like, uh, right?

You're like, no, oh my God, he just talks for three hours straight, and they don't interrupt him. But luckily, Raskins on there and Liz Cheney's out there, so they probably won't blow it completely. Yeah, yeah, one would hope so. I still love that they invoked the perjury trap. Like they, they so knew that he could not help but lie that they came up with a concept where him lying proves the other side is bad. Anyway, okay, so I have another thought about what might happen if he does testify, but the theme of this block is about how he's feeling. And one way that we can infer how he's feeling is how much he's bleeding on truth social. So here is a video showing his posts from a one hour period on truth social.

Take a look. Baking soda. Making soda, the thing that you're supposed to inject into your lungs? I don't know. Is that what you're so much? There's HuffPost, NBC, Mother Jones. I think that was CNBC. Unslegged committee stuff. I think there's some grifting. Literally, that is a one hour period. Go talk to your kids. You have kids. You have businesses. What are you doing? Does he? Does he really have kids that he cares about? Does he have businesses that aren't bankrupt? That is one hour. You know, I often. I will hear about what someone annoying on Twitter has done or whatever, and I'll go to their

Twitter account to find it. And very often, have you ever scrolled through the Twitter page of very online people? You can't find anything because in one day they'll tweet 300 times or something. Yeah. I'm not going to name names because then they'll start tweeting 300 times about me, but you know who I'm talking about. Anyway, you're 100% right, you sit him down, he's gonna lie, but I think more importantly than him lying, I'm not good with old movies, but a few good men is the one with Tom Cruise, right? Yes, yes. Okay, the big trial scene at the end where the general or whatever admits what he did because he got pressured. And that always sort of bothered me because come on, why are you going to do that? That's like a professional

guy. Why are you going to admit? But Trump does that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chris Matthews pressured him on abortion and got him to say, yes, we should punish the women. And Lester Holt pressured him a little bit, and he admitted, I fired Comey over Russia. Like all you have to do is make it so he feels like, well, I don't want to admit that I broke the law, but like now that seems like the strong thing to do, they could easily get him to admit that he wanted violence, easily get him to admit that he wanted Mike Pence to die. Like he will definitely lie and that is damaging, but him telling the truth could be way more damaging and he will do it so readily. That's a brilliant point. So here, here's how I get him

to do it instantly. You know, the CIA pulled off a coup against Mohammed Musadig in 1953 in Iran. It was the best coup ever planned. Oh, no way, I planned a better coup. Oh yeah, weren't you do in January 6th, 2021? He wouldn't like, he wouldn't even blink. He wouldn't even blink. 100%. Anyway, we're going to have to see they're drafting it. We don't know how long it's going to take for him to respond. And even if he does respond, really fast, do you think that they would try to fit this in before the midterms? I mean, they clearly, like, keep it a real. They want this whole process to affect the midterms.

No, no, this is all a fun conversation. But here's how it's going to go down. His advisors are going to tackle him. They're going to put him in the storage closet where he kept his secret documents, okay? because there's no way that they could allow Trump to testify. That's just, that's, that's just political suicide, right? So they never, so he's going to, his lawyers are going to challenge it. It's going to drag out.

They're going to assume the Republicans are going to win the house. And then they'll quash it. Yeah, that's, but even if the Republicans don't win the house, he's not going to testify. There's no way. Like, if he did, it would be spectacular. And, and MAGA may, again, maybe you guys are right. Maybe he'll, maybe he'll tell the truth and show that it was actually that the Biden rigged the elections. And those rioters were actually tourists, Antifa tourists.

There were mules. Yeah, mule antifa tourists, right? And he could prove that. I think you guys should give it a shot. But look, the chances of Democrats holding anyone in power accountable is next to nothing. So both the Republicans and the Democrats are aligned to not actually hold Trump accountable. So the only person who could rescue victory from the jaws of defeat here is Trump by accidentally stepping into the jaws of defeat. Which if you're watching Trump, stepping into the jaws of defeat would be a very strong thing to do.

Oh, no way, John. A very big alpha boy would do that. No, no. Hillary is the best of stepping into the jaws of defeat. There's no way that Trump could do it as well. There's no way. Oh yes, someone in Mara Lago, I just heard it. Anyway, we're going to take our first break. When we come back, there's a lot more.

Don't go anywhere. All right, back on Cytte, Jank and John with you guys. I okay I will in this in this last January 6th committee hearing there was a little bit of a repetition of some of what had been covered earlier the committee wanted to make sure that everyone understood where we've come from and on the right their response also kind of reiterated what they've been saying from the very beginning but it's no more accurate no more honest no more true that it was when they first made the claims let's explain first here they are involved in the decision to delay National Guard assistance on January 6th. Those are serious

and real questions that this committee committee refuses to even ask. Jim Banks just raised some very serious questions that should be answered by the January 6th commission, but they're not. So Jim Banks raised some very very serious questions, Steve Skilly says. And he wants to know why didn't Nancy Pelosi, why didn't the Democrats try to call in somebody to deal with the chaos of January 6th? If only there was some way for us to know why they didn't do that, to know what they were thinking about, what they were saying. If only Steve Scalise could have been in a position to know that, which we now find out he 100% was. Take a look at this. This cannot be just we're waiting for so and so.

We need them there now, whoever you got. You have, you also have troops, this is Steny Hoyer, troops. Okay, so we have a little bit of time to make that decision. All right. Other military bases. Thank you. We need active duty, National Guard. How soon in the future can you have the place evacuated, pulled to be cleaned out?

I don't want to speak for the leadership that's going to be in response for executing the operating, so we're not going to say that because there be on the ground Well, just pretend, just pretend for a moment it was the Winnegon or the White House or some other entity that was undersea. And let me say, you can logistically get people there as you make the plan. So yes, Mitch McConnell was there. You saw the woman in the black and white design in her coat. She moved to the side so Steve Scalise could be a part of the conversation. He was there.

He knows exactly what they requested. The urgency in their voices, they're saying, you got to get us National Guard. I forget exactly who the other gentleman was. He was saying, here are the nearby places, go to there, find people, send them over. Nancy Pelosi is like, yes, there's a lot to figure out. We can figure it out while the troops are headed here. Steve Scalise was listening to every second of that. And every minute since then, he's been lying about his knowledge of what actually happened.

It's pathetic. Yeah, I am not one percent surprised by this. And look, I assume if a Republican politician is talking, a Republican politician is lying. To be fair, the Republicans, tons and tons of Democratic politicians are also liars, and I assume that as well. We would love higher wages. Oh, we're voting on it? No. Okay. So that happens, and we pointed out every time. But with Republicans now, it's a rebuttable presumption. Like, I'm being dead serious. Like, if there's a Republican politician on TV, I'm assuming that it's a lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. lie. And if they say something true, I'm like, whoa, like take a note. That was true. That's weird.

And now it's not just Republican politicians, you know, Republicans on social media, Republicans are in real life. They won't. That's why do you think they love Donald Trump and they have them as their leader? They love liars. They don't want to know the truth. Oh, we should all be equal. They're like, I don't want that, right? Now you're saying we have to teach about racism and not justice, yeah, equity. Yeah, all right. Oh, now gay people and trans people are going to be equal to us? Oh, yeah.

Somebody tell me being white means being equal. Okay, Trump's like, I'll do it, right? And they're like, yeah, that's it. So do you think this, if his voters found out about Steve Scalese, he's not Trump or anything, right? He's not untouchable. But if you told all of his voters, you showed him that exact video. So they know for a fact that he's lying, right?

He wouldn't lose one voter. I don't think they would care. They'd be like, girl, I don't care. Pelosi probably lied about something, okay? And it was Antifa tourist National Guard anyway. Like, what? That doesn't even make any sense. We're not trying to make sense.

Okay? So, yeah, I mean, look, Desjardet had three, paid for three abortions. They voted for him over and over and over again in Tennessee. They'll vote for Herschel Walker. They vote for Trump, and he's the biggest liar we've ever had in politics. And that's saying a lot because they're almost all liars, right? So this won't affect them 1%. But yes, that was a gargantuan line.

But just think about it on a personal level for a second. So forget the politics because it's not going to affect anything in politics. How unbearable are these guys? Imagine if you knew somebody like this, like you had had a personal conversation in like a really traumatic moment. Somebody had broken into your house, right? And you're worried about your life and you're together. You're calling the cops and stuff. And then like a couple weeks later or a couple months later, it comes out and he says,

She didn't call the cops, okay? She's the one who had the person break into the house. You'd be like, what kind of a monster is this guy? Like, what's wrong with him? Is he mentally unbalanced? And you'd never talk to that person again, right? That's all every Republican. Yep.

So, Glees just happened to get caught on tape. But you think Ron Johnson's telling the truth about January 6th? Do you think any of them are? No, they're all effing liars. And so, by the way, I give the right wing credit for this from time to time. Like, they sussed out that mainstream media was full of crap. And a lot of the left still believes in the mainstream media. They're like, oh, how are we going to pay for health care when every other nation does it easily and at half the price?

Okay, I bet we shouldn't get a universal health care. Like Democratic voters, I love you, but wakey, wakey, mainstream media is full of crap, their corporate propaganda, right? Right wing figured that out. But the minute you give them right wing propaganda, they're like, yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah, there we go. I like those lies. Those lies are better. I can't know.

There's still lies. Yeah, 100%. And look, we had Josh Holly pretending like there was, why are you guys talking about January 6? There's nothing bad about January 6. Meanwhile, that's Josh Holly. What they're behind me? It's nothing to worry about. Nancy Mace, like a couple weeks out from it, all of a sudden, AOC is talking about how horrifying

the experience was, AOC very understandably was worried about being murdered and or raped by these insane people. Nancy Mace is like, why are you guys, why are you saying that you were scared? Why are you lying, making yourself the victim? Meanwhile, they have interviews of Nancy Mace right after it talking about how terrified she was and how terrified the Republicans in the room with her were. But as soon as, you know, a couple days later, they don't have to worry about it. Now, the Steve Scalese lie is maybe a little bit worse because it's so specific. It's so ridiculous.

And let me make clear why this particular lie is ridiculous. And it really goes to the point of Jenks saying that none, of this actually matters. It doesn't matter to the voters. It doesn't matter to Steve Scalise. He's still going to make this same claim. It doesn't matter that it's being debunked. But more importantly, the claim doesn't matter.

Do you know why? Their evasion here is, why didn't Nancy Pelosi call in the National Guard to stop something that they've spent a year and a half describing as nothing? It didn't matter. It was peaceful people walking around. It was, as Tucker Carlson says, an election for. fraud protest. That's it. And why didn't she call the National Guard to crush it? To crush something that wasn't a big deal. It's exactly like what we dealt with with COVID for like two years.

Like what, why is Joe Biden not doing this? Why is he letting people die? Why? Why did China let COVID in? Why did Fauci do something with a lab? What did they do? Let in a virus that we don't think we should take any precautions against. The diversion is always someone else is responsible for something that we shouldn't care about. We should care that they're responsible, but we shouldn't care about the actual thing. And it doesn't make any sense, but it doesn't have to. It's just supposed to waste time to get us past any, any point of actual consequences, whether it's for the response to COVID, whether it's for actually leading to January 6th. This is like, this is now their template. Just blame someone for the thing that we shouldn't care about. Okay, one last one.

Inzy Graham, on the day of the riots was the guy who you're going to be shocked to find out panic the most. So Holly's running like, uh-huh, right. Meanwhile, Graham is yelling at the guards. Shoot them. Shoot them. Okay, about Trump supporters. Shoot them in the head. Okay, shoot them in the head. And then that day he comes out and he's like, gives a speech and I, this was not right. This was not right. Okay. like a couple of weeks later. Lindsay Gar's like, well, look, I've thought about it. And it turns out boots do taste delicious, especially Trump's boots. Oh my God, yummy for my tummy, okay?

It turns out the riders were coming in so I could lick their boots. Oh, I didn't know that. That was going to be delicious. So that's the Republican liars for you. Assume as a matter of course. And by the way, you know us and you see it all the time. If we see something that they're saying that makes sense, we go, hey, look at that. That one's actually true, right?

But unless we're doing that, assume that everything they're saying is lying and you'll be right. Yeah, yeah. We like, we trip over ourselves trying to find things on like, for instance, Fox and Friends, kill me three times a year, says something reasonable. That's true. Do you see five times a year. That's right. We just want to give them credit.

They very rarely deserve it. Anyway, with that said, why don't we move to someone who has never deserved credit for literally anything? In the final months of his presidency, Donald Trump pardoned that guy, Roger Stone. Now, what he pardoned him for was Roger Stone's involvement in covering up everything that happened around the 2016 election. Roger Stone lied to investigators, he intimidated witnesses, he broke the law in multiple intentional ways, and there shouldn't be any consequences for what Republicans do, so Donald Trump pardoned him. But there was actually a second set of pardons, and a second topic that Roger Stone wanted to be preemptively pardoned

for. That was anything that might come about as a result of what Roger Stone was doing leading up to and during January 6th. And that actually did not happen. At the same time, though, he was being followed by a documentary crew, so we got to find out what he was thinking, what he was saying, when he apparently found out that that second pardon was not going to be coming. Take a look. Jared Kushner has an IQ of 70.

He's coming to Miami. We will eject him from Miami very quickly. He'll be leaving very quick, very quickly, very quickly. He has 100 security guards. I don't have 5,000 security guards. You wanna fight? Let's fight. You and your abortion is daughter.

Okay, we're gonna return to the last word in that because it's actually fairly crucial. But that was the little bit that remains of the husk of Roger Stone freaking out, threatening to, I guess, killed Jared Kushner and all of the people that surround him. He was talking about getting some sort of personal army. to attack Jared Kushner. Now, of course, importantly, it wasn't Jared Kushner's call on whether he get the pardon. It's Donald Trump's call. And Donald Trump did actually seem to be on Roger Stone's mind in a way that you noticed. Yeah, so I don't know why we believed it out there. We don't have to believe out of that word. About Ivanka, he said abortionist bitch daughter.

Okay. Wait, daughter. I thought we were talking about Jared Kushner, in which case it would be abortion and speech wife, right? But notice he said daughter. So now he's making a reference to Trump. Now remember he's asking Trump for the pardon. Cushner's in charge of the process. But at the end of the day, especially for guys like Roger Stone that big and that close to Trump, Trump makes a decision. So he's kind of furious at Kushner and Trump. So he's talking about, oh, I'll get Kushner, right? But is he also talking about getting Trump? I mean, who else is going down to Florida. Kushner lives in New York. Trump lives down in Florida, right? And so what's interesting is that Roger Stone on a couple occasions has like pinged or pushed Trump,

but push it Trump has never pushed them back. That is weird. That's the one guy he's never ever bullied, right? So that is curious. And look at him threatening Trump's family. If Trump cares about anyone in the world and it's not clear that he does, it would be Ivanka, right? And he's calling her your abortionist bitch daughter and not a peep out of Trump. I mean, you saw earlier in the show, we showed you his true social account. He's got like 200 messages an hour that he's tweeting out there, right? But nothing about Roger Stone calling your beloved Ivanka a bitch? Oh my God, Donald Trump's a little bit like Ted Cruz.

Remember when Trump called Cruz's wife ugly, and then Cruz was like, okay, sir, of course, sir. Now Roger Stone calls Donald Trump's daughter a bitch. And Trump's like, okay, sir, thank you, sir. May I have another, sir? Oh, whatever Roger Stone has on Donald Trump, it is thermonuclear. Yeah, yeah. And look, obviously, I don't know that Trump is necessarily watching this, but like this is a moment where you get to decide, Are you going to kind of be the alpha they pretend that you are?

You're going to be weak as hell. I'm not going to be specific, no spoilers or anything. But recently in House of the Dragon, a king who's generally thought of is fairly weak. When someone called his daughter a name, he was ready to knife that person. But you don't have a problem with him calling her not only a bitch, but also weirdly bringing up her position on abortion, which also says so much about Roger. So why was that the thing that you thought of? And wait, John, there's a second thing about the, there's just three words there.

all rich, okay? Abortionist doesn't necessarily mean someone who supports abortion. It more accurately means someone who had an abortion. She's not abortion supporting. She's an abortionist. That's true. Okay. So I don't know, I don't know that. I'm not the one who said it. How Roger Stone very close to Donald Trump's? Well, what else does he know? Remember, Roger Stone has some sort of weirdo mind lock on all these idiots, right? And I call them idiots all the time, except there's a couple of people I never call idiots. Tucker Carlson, Roger Stone, and a couple others, right? Because they're not idiots.

So Roger Stone somehow does this Jedi mind lock on him. Remember Alex Jones, we found out through the trial. In fact, we found out on this show when the lawyer that was against him told Anna of the story, texted a naked picture of his own wife to the biggest hatchet man in American political history of Roger Stone. Why would you do that? Are you insane? But yet he did it. So what has Trump told Roger Stone? What is Trump texted Roger Stone? That Roger Stone feels perfect comfortable on camera, just like dismissively slapping around not just Kushner or Ivanka, but Donald Trump. Yeah, I guess we know who the real alpha is. Now, that's a fact. So if Trump doesn't say anything

about it, you know he's a beta. Anyway, that's just the latest in several of the videos coming from this documentary crew that we've shown you. Stone is now threatened to file a $25 million lawsuit against the filmmakers of that. The right wing loves suing people, but 10 times as much they love threatening to sue people and then not actually doing it. Remember, Herschel Walker was to sue, I guess like the woman or the Daily Beast about the abortion thing, but then oddly oddly decided not to do it. It's weird how that always works out. But anyway, he doesn't like his actual words that he was super thrilled to say on camera at the time coming out now, considering how bad it makes him look. Yeah, I want to say two more things about the pardon,

because it's two more, like think about how interesting this is. Roger Stone says to Jared Kushner and Donald Trump, oh, you didn't give me a pardon for my crimes. Well, you better not come down down to Miami, I might kill you. Not really the best way to ask for a pardon. Okay, not the best way to convince people that you're not a criminal, but of course they are all, they're all criminals. They all know already that they're criminals. The question is who's handing out, get out of jail free cards, right? Okay, and then the second part of it is look at how worried he was that they were going to convict him and send him to prison over what he did on January 6th in organizing a coup against America. He was really, really worried.

Yeah, freaked out. I might have to withdraw my earlier statement that he's one of the few non-idiots. You thought the Democrats were going to hold you accountable? It's been two years they finally subpoenaed Donald Trump, right? Like they barely, barely got to it. I haven't even heard a word about Roger Stone, right? You thought these feckless loser Democrats were going to hold any of you accountable? That's funny. That's really funny.

It turns out they way overestimate the Democrats too. 100%. Okay, we have a couple more things talk about, but one more break. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. Back on TYT, Jank and John with you guys on a fun Friday. You guys ready for this, but not just us. Juan Morales, Brian Benny, Spunky the Dragon, Laura Gully, Matthew Petronovich, and Dana B. All just became members. Damn. It's a good day to become a member, man.

I'm giving $800 like crazy. Somebody calling me Oprah in here. It's a little bit, I'm not saying. I mean, Best Talk Show host, I'm not saying, I haven't said a word. Did I win Best Webby for the entire planet? I haven't said it. They said it. All right, anyways, John, go.

Is that an award for the whole planet? Okay, okay. Best web host, yeah. Anyway, by the way, if you're getting a little bit jealous about the blue apron thing, look under your chair. There's nothing under there. Sorry, I didn't come to your house. Can you imagine?

That would be freaky. Anyway. T.YT has snuck into all of your houses. Anyway, we'll work on that for next time. Okay, let's have, I guess, a little bit of fun, starting with this. The entire leadership of the so-called progressive movement is that. They're totally and utterly corrupt. Is anyone the left pointing this out? Has chink Uger, Uighur, said a word about it? The so-called radicals at Chapo Trap House?

Okay, so that is Tucker Carlson who wants to take a dig at Jank and clearly does know how his name is pronounced, but he also knows that he's supposed to pretend that he can't pronounce most people's names to appeal to his racist audience, so he came up with an alternate way to do it. And we're We're gonna get to what he's talking about there, but to understand why he started this whole monologue, we need to backtrack just a little bit and take a look at what happened at a recent AOC town hall. Look at this. None of this matters unless there's a nuclear war, which you voted to send arms and weapons to Ukraine. Tulsi Gabbardt, she's left the Democratic Party because there are a bunch of war hunts. You have done nothing. Tulsi Gabbard has shown guts where you shown cowardice. believed in you and you became the very thing you sought to fight against.

That's what you've become. You are the establishment and you are the reason why everybody will end up in a nuclear war unless you choose to stand up right now and denials the Democratic Party. Okay, so those were two Tulsi Gabbard supporters who I believe are constituents of AOC, who don't like her votes to fund the defense of Ukraine. and have a particular position on nuclear war that I don't think is actually reflective of anything that she's ever said and done. But they're of course free to believe literally whatever they want. More importantly for Tucker Carlson, this is an opportunity for him. You can have

legitimate views of AOC or anyone. For Tucker Carlson, he wants to destroy the left. He does not want progressives to have any power or any influence whatsoever. And so when he saw this, he just jumps in it. It's an opportunity for him to attack AOC and anyone else. affiliated with AOC. We're going to get to more of what he had to say. But of course, since he did name Czech Ejank, what do you think? Okay, I'm going to get to my response to Tucker in a second. I just want to interrupt to say those two guys are total incomplete frauds.

Okay, I don't know that they live in that district at all. They're definitely not Democrats and they're definitely not progressives. Total utter frauds, Republicans, we have to prove for it. I believe in you, he said, total utter liar. We're going to prove that he's a liar. So, yeah, so one of them apparently has said in social media that he voted for Trump twice. That guy, the guy who said, I believe in you. I get that.

My point would be, I don't, like, it's two people at a town hall. I don't particularly care what any random person at a town hall believes about politics. Like, I mean, I'm not going to litigate it. I'm going to litigate it. Frauds. No, no, but I'm not, look, they're two rando trolls or whoever they are, right? They're not important. What's driving me crazy is people who are like, oh,

Progressive peace activists are mad at AOC. Well, why don't you just write their propaganda for them? That was the whole point of trolling her was so that idiots would call them progressive peace activists. They're just Republicans. They're like, Tulsi Gabbitt's the best. We're going to get back to that in a second, too. She should leave the Democratic Party like her. Why don't you renounce the Democratic Party?

I am a progressive. Wink. Get that out of here. Yeah, the only reason I say it is it's. impossible for me to know how genuine, like I obviously don't agree with them. Obviously, I don't think that AOC wants a nuclear war. I don't, I don't get where that comes from. But what they say is not nearly as important as the framing that comes out of it, that people like Tucker Carlson and Jesse Waters, I mean, every white right wing media figure is jumping

on this because their goal is for, especially going into 2024, there to be no progressives that have any chance of taking over the Democratic Party. That is, that is their goal. goal. What any particular activist goal is, I have no idea. But the right wing does not want there to be a progressive alternative to either Donald Trump or Ronda Santis. Or also importantly, for us as leftists, they don't want there to be any progressives that have any support that can stand up to a Kamala Harris, to a Buttigieg, to anything like that. Because while the right wing would prefer to have a Ron DeSantis or a Donald Trump, if it's going to come down to an AOC or a Kamala Harris, they're of course going to go for the establishment more mine.

moderate Democrat. And so it's sort of our duty to make sure that people understand exactly what these progressives are. Criticize them. I mean, I know you feel very free to criticize even AOC and all that. But it has to be based in fact and reality. And Tucker Carlson and all of them have no interest in that whatsoever. Yeah, no, I've been furious of progressives. And I did a video called I'm burning all my bridges about Justice Democrats who I helped to get elected because they wouldn't fight back in a critical time when we, during the beginning part of the Biden administration, and throughout a lot of it, right? There's tons and tons of legitimate critique of policy and strategy.

And have you ever heard me on Jayapal? And she's theoretically the leader of the Progressive Caucus, and she's furious with me. So we're not talking about legitimate criticism of progressives. And within the progressives, there's plenty of disagreements on actual policy as well. No, I'm talking about frauds. here, I'll shoot graphic one, Jose Vega. So this is one of the guys. Here's his tweet. Who's blaming the president? I voted for Trump twice. Pompeo needs to go before it starts a war with Iran. Trump's the one who got us out of the Iran deal, was going to start threatened.

It basically almost got us in the World War III. But they're trying to get you to believe that Trump is for peace and AOC is for war. And importantly, Trump kept us in the wars, Whereas Biden got us out of Afghanistan, Trump dramatically increased the number and severity of the drone strikes during his time. So we're going to go back to Tucker. But guys, the reason I keep emphasizing that is because this is coordinated. These two right wing trolls go in to start this thing. They are taping, right? And then immediately Tucker and Jesse Waters and Jimmy Dorr and all those guys are on it.

And they're like, oh, boom, right. Oh, yes. Oh, progressive activist, peace activists. Oh my God, she's the AOC's not progressive. Later, I'm going to tell you why they're attacking progressives. Because that's super important, but keep going. Interesting. Yeah, well, we wanted to get into more of what Tucker Carlson had to say, particularly about you.

So let's jump into that next clip. Okay, so those are actual progressives. Now, there's no doubt that on virtually any other issue, we wouldn't agree with them. Don't know what their beliefs are, probably don't intersect with ours. But on this specific issue, which does matter, they're absolutely. right. Sandy Cortez is not a radical, she's not a progressive, she's a neocon. Just to be clear, in the same way that he had to pretend that he couldn't pronounce your name, he calls her Sandy because in addition to having to reassure his audience on a nightly basis that

he's a racist, he also has to reassure them that he's a misogynist as well. And if you are an act, if you're an actual leftist who actually is anti-war and all that, you really need to understand. And I'm sure the vast vast majority of you do that Tucker Carlson doesn't care about any of that. Jesse Waters doesn't care about any of that. They're not interested in cutting the military budget or anything like that. So the idea that Tucker Carlson is just calling balls and strikes when it comes to progressives and everything, he doesn't have like an agenda or anything.

Like let's just be clear about who Tucker Carlson is. Yeah, I mean, look, why do we keep saying he's pretending to mispronounce my name? because we had an hour long debate at Politicon, and what you might not know is we had, it was kind of delayed, and we had, we talked for half an hour before that behind the scenes, and then we talked afterwards as well. And he pronounced my name perfectly well in all of those instances. So he knows, he's doing it on purpose to be like, ha ha, he's a foreigner. Yeah, that's all right.

It's obvious. And so that's why we're saying it. Otherwise, my name is super easy to mispronounce, but not in his case because he knows it for a fact. And then they call AOC a neocon, hilarious, right? But remember the two guys who are progressives, how funny was that? The guy's like, I voted for Trump twice. I'm so proud of it. And he's like, no, these are progressives, I don't agree with it.

Okay. But then they're all backing Tulsi because she's for peace. Is she? Because she was totally in favor of the drone strikes all across the world. She was totally in favor of torture. Even back before she started pretending to be a progressive, she had all those positions. She's been in favor of every single war against coincidentally Muslims. So she's like, oh, Putin started a war.

Yeah, I'm against the Ukrainians fighting back. I'm definitely against the Ukrainians fighting back. But she was also in favor of Russia starting. And what they did in Syria, right? She was in favor of Assad. He's the one that started the civil war in the first place. Well, to be fair, he didn't start the civil war correction. Right, it was a civil war against him, but he did massive atrocities.

I mean, why randomly go and support Assad? She wouldn't have met with them, right? She supported every Russian war, every war against Muslims, and they're like, she's the one for peace. Okay, every part of this is fraudulent. That's the important part. Keep going. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and by the way, you can say that she's against American intervention, which might be generally true.

No, she's for drone strikes. No, I get that. I'm saying like she's against specifically long term occupying nation building, I guess. She's not against- I don't believe that either, but I hear you. Sure, sure, but even like if you say I don't want arms to go to Ukraine, I don't want money to be spent on it, you can say that you're against intervention, but that's not pro peace because peace is not the result. The devastating loss of massive numbers of civilians is the result of that.

Ukraine being conquered, people being killed, shipped off to Russia. raped, thrown into mass graves, that's not peace. You can say that you're against intervention, but there's no peace here. Let's just be clear about that for Tulsi Gabbard or whoever. Yeah, one more thing about that. So I hear Tulsi and Tucker and Jimmy Dore all saying like, oh, we're for against the war. That's why we should not help Ukraine. Do not help the Ukrainians.

But I've never heard them say, oh, we're also, of course, against Putin, that monster that started this war. Well, if you're against war, wouldn't you lead with that? Wouldn't you reiterate that all the time? Wouldn't you say it once? Wouldn't you say, well, Putin's a monster. He murdered all those civilians, started an imperialistic, aggressive war. What a horrible, horrible person, a tyrant.

But God damn it, we don't want to make the war worse. So, hey, listen, we shouldn't do this kind of rhetoric. We shouldn't do that kind of funding. I say, okay, well, then you have a legitimate opinion. I don't, might not agree with how we do the funding. And there's a ton of nuance there, right? But okay, I respect that. No, no, never, never, never.

So go ahead, Tulsi Gabbard, go ahead. I dare you to say that Putin's a monster who started this war. She'll never say it because she works for him. So guys, everything about this is fraudulent, fraudulent. So you can say, hey, that's hyperbole that she works for him, I guess, okay? But she certainly acts like it because she's like, I can't believe America is doing this. America's doing what, you dumbass. He's the one that started the war.

He's started the war. You have no criticism for him. Guys, please, look, they're totally. So I'll just get to this right now. Why are they going after progressives? Think about it. Guys, it's so weird, we're out of power. It's not like Bernie's president.

It's not like AOC's the Speaker of the House. We get crushed on a regular basis by corporate media. We get attacked by conservative Democrats nonstop. Why are they going after us? I don't mind. I love the fight. But it's weird, right? So there's two reasons why, number one, they're trying to pick off because the elections are decided a lot of times by tiny margins, certainly under five points.

So you got really close to races that might be happening in Pelsibia, Georgia, Wisconsin, Nevada, et cetera, right? They're just trying to pick off the lowest IQ people on the left, the ones that will believe that Donald Trump is a peaceful, honest, decent person, and that Trump is more progressive than AOC. I mean, you'd have to be the bottom of the barrel IQ to believe that. But they think, yeah, I think we got maybe two to five percent of progressives. We can get on that. You know, I mean, some people listen to Jimmy Door. I think we might be able to find these elusive bottom of the barrel IQ people and get them to vote for republic because we'll start war wars.

Where's the most corrupt people on earth? Because we think that progressives are suckers. You're going to let them treat you like a sucker that believed that Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump are more for peace than AOC and Bernie Sanders? I mean, you'd have to lose your mind to believe that. The second reason is because, and then Tucker's a long-term thinker, and I've never called them dumb, we've talked about that a lot. Who's the only one that could actually beat a Republican in 2024?

They're already thinking way past Biden. Biden's hopeless. Kamala Harris is hopeless. They already beat those two up. Only a progressive, because they would be populist, could beat a Republican in 2024. They're like, oh, please give us, give us Pete Buttigieg, please, give us Biden when he's 98, please, please, progressive, let's go ambush them now. I mean, that is thinking ahead. So credit where credit is due, because a weirdo attack on progressives makes no sense otherwise.

He's wasting Fox News airtime, not attacking Biden and Pelosi, but going after people who have no power. at all? No, that's long-term strategy. 100%. I know we have this video of you. I know that we are over, but it also directly contradicts what he's saying. Yeah, okay. Yeah, real quick. So the claims that Tucker's making specifically, and again, to your point, he's not just attacking AOC. Why is he attacking leftist media? Come on, it's so weird, because he doesn't want there to be movement going in 2024. Anyway, the claim he's making is that people like Jank or I guess me or whoever, all we want is war, we want nuclear war, I just want, I want to live out, fallout for

or something. So why aren't we criticizing any of the money or the spending or whatever? Well, here's a little mashup of Jank and Anna doing exactly that. Biden is planning on soliciting Congress for tens of billions of dollars in additional funding for Ukraine. The money would go toward, of course, military weaponry, also humanitarian and aid. But what this reveals is that the government seems to have a bipartisan effort to easily appropriate money for any type of defense spending, any type of war-related efforts. And this is a perfect example of that. Look, we love Ukraine. We love that they're fighting back. What Russia did was horrific. So, but whenever it's bankers or defense industry, it gets approved right

Right away, child tax credit, paid family leave, you want to take paid family leave? Hell no. How are we going to pay for that? That's for the average American. They didn't bribe any politicians at all. Last word goes to one of our members, Dragon with a girl tattoo said, I kind of doubt Boeing and Raytheon care where the weapons go after they get their money. So of course that's true.

There's a caveat to that. If the weapons do end up in the wrong hands, that paves the way for them to send more weapons and whatever future war we have to deal with as a result of some dangerous militia having, you know, these dangerous weapons. That's exactly what I was going to say. So Tucker Carlson said, oh, why hasn't Jake Ugar spoken out against all this money to go into the defense contractors, except that I did? Yeah.

So, oh, wow, Tucker Carlson is lying. Who could have guessed that? But I'm going to leave on Tulsi Gabbard, because this is their, they're all saying, oh my God, Tulsi is like the queen of the left and she's the real leftist and AOC's too conservative, a neocca, a neoka, right? So Walker, Walker Bragman tweet here about Army General Don Boldick, he's running in New Hampshire, okay, for a very important seat. And Tulsi Gabbard's decided to endorse him. Whoa, a Republican, a Trumpy Republican. Well, maybe he's a reasonable guy. Well, let's find out. As Bragman points out, Boldick doesn't think Medicare negotiating drug prices

is a good thing. He's a corporatist. He doesn't, you know, Jimmy's like one thing is, oh, I care about Medicare for all. That's why I'm supporting medical Z. She's supporting a person who says, no, the government should not negotiate drug prices. They should just let the drug companies pick any price they like so they could kill you with how high their prices are. She's actively campaigning for that monster, okay? But it's a lot more and wants to end direct election of senators.

cuckoo for cocoa puffs, he opposes legal abortion, of course he does, but Tulsi's leftist, hilarious, has promoted Trump's big lie and suggested that COVID jabs are installing microchips for Bill Gates. That's the kind of lunatic right winger, corporatists that Tulsi Gabbard is campaigning for now. So if you hear someone telling you that Tulsi Gabbard is the real leftist, you know you're talking to a troll or one of the dumbest people alive. Okay, but to be fair to them, and that's why I read it, maybe they don't know it. But now you know it, now you know it for sure. So if there was any of you out there that were genuine left at all,

if there's a single leftist still listening to Jimmy Dorr and Tucker Carlson, et cetera, just understand, no, they're feeding you a bag of lies and they're tricking you into supporting the worst corporatist hawk, right wingers you could possibly imagine. Go check out Boldix record. Check out to see if Tulsi has endorsed them. You can look at it for yourself.

She's supporting right wing monsters pretending that AOC's a neocon. So if you fall for that trick after this, I can't help you pass that. Go get counseling. All right, we got to go. John, thank you. Everybody check out the damage report.

And we'll be back with another great hour. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks, support our work, listen to ad-free, access members-only bonus content, and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at apple.com at apple.combe. I'm your host, Shank Huger, and I'll see you soon.