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Episode Date: January 25, 2025

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Drop it. Right, welcome to the power power panel, young Turks, Jane Cougar, John Irola, Senator Nina Turner with you guys. Of course, Nina is a former Ohio state senator. John is the host of Damage Report. We got a lot of amazing stories for you guys. The next hour has a couple that are top notch. Lauren Bobert. I mean, her mistake was both hilarious, and it's not even yesterday's mistake that we mentioned.

A new mistake is both hilarious and tragic at the same time. I'm actually livid with her. I'm also livid with Representative Andy Nogles, I should say. So there's a lot of things I'm livid about, so should be a fun show. All right, Nina, how are you doing? Hey, Jake and John, I'm living a dream, I guess. Yeah, well, it's a dream of a sort, of a sort. Okay, all right.

Yeah, can't have a night terror without some dreaming, I guess. But anyway, okay, well, let's jump into some light news to start off with. Take a look at this. This next order relates to the definition of birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment of the United States. That's a good one. Birthright, that's a big one. What about that one in the course?

That one is likely to be. Could be. You think we have good grounds, but you could be right. I mean, you'll find out. Good, oh, is that good? That's a big, I should sign it now. I should say, I'm a big boy, I have the pen. That was worrying, especially when you're doing something deeply and obviously unconstitutional.

But that was Donald Trump attempting in a fashion that he cannot as president to end birthright citizenship. everybody knew that it was likely to be challenged and possibly blocked. Well, that has happened faster than was initially expected. But even in the short time between him signing it and it being blocked, it has led to a little bit of chaos, which we're gonna discuss. But first, initial thoughts on it being blocked? Yeah, so I agree with the judge, as John is about to tell you, it's blatantly unconstitutional. But I have a theory on why they're doing this very extreme policy, and it's related to Matt Gates. Interesting. So we'll tell you about that in a minute.

Okay, now I have some fault questions about Matt Gates' parentage. But anyway, let's talk about what has actually happened, because the possibility that it could go into effect, even if maybe would be later struck down, has led some people who were thinking about possibly getting citizenship for their child under the previous regime to be a little bit worried. And so apparently increasing numbers of pregnant immigrant women

are requesting preterm C-sections so that their children can be born before February 19th, which is when it would previously have been expected to go into effect and could still go into effect. And many of the couples apparently are Indian women in their eighth or ninth month of pregnancy, but some are months away from giving birth and are still seeing if it might be possible to artificially give birth kind of dangerously early, and that's making a lot of people very worried. So there's a doctor at a maternity clinic in New Jersey that's confirmed that they've been

receiving a high number of inquiries about early deliveries. Dr. Rama says a seven months pregnant woman came in with her husband to sign up for a preterm delivery. She isn't due until sometime in March. So that would put it potentially up to six weeks early somewhere around there. Another OBGYN in Texas says that they're seeing the same sort of thing in their clinic. Dr. Makula says, I am trying to tell couples that even if it is possible, a preterm birth poses significant risk to mother and child. complications include underdeveloped lungs feeding problems, low birth weight, neurological complications and more. In the past two days, I've spoken to 15 to 20

couples about this and so that's that's very worrying those complications and a lot of people potentially in a country as large as ours could be affected by that and so some are having to weigh those potential health complications with the long-term ramifications if the child doesn't get citizenship. Bear in mind And some of these are people who lived in the US for years and years. One couple moved here eight years ago on H-1B visas, which we've been assured recently are the best thing ever. And yet even being here for eight years, they're now worrying like, well, that's something that they've been maybe looking forward to for a long time. And it may not be possible.

One, Varroon said we were counting on our child being born here. We've been waiting for our green cards for six years. This was the only way to ensure stability for our family. we are terrified of the uncertainty. And in this case, the pregnancy is not expected to be due until March. So it's another one of those that might be a little bit too early. And so this is chaos, and it's sort of classic Trump chaos, isn't it? That he's causing chaos in the field of immigration, but also making women extremely worried

about what's going to happen with their pregnancy. That's sort of classic Trump. But Jenk, what do you make of this? Yeah. So the reason that why I said, when mentioned Matt Gates, is this is the Matt Gates of policies. I said Matt Gates was the appointee that was a sacrificial lamb. So everybody attacks him. Meanwhile, Hegsith and all the other cash,

Patel, whoever else, sails through. And so far, that's almost exactly what's happened, right? So we'll see how if they all make it through. But that was, in my opinion, the plan. And they have executed that plan really well, too much to our chagrin, right? So now when it comes to these executive orders, he does this one, which is so outrageous.

and ridiculous, and it's the sacrificial lamp. So everybody looks at it, oh, squirrel, oh my God, oh my God, I'm so angry, I'm so mad, I'm so mad. Meanwhile, there's like, how many orders, 1,200? So, I mean, executive orders. Oh, yeah, I mean, there's like all of the other dozens, hudges, whatever number of executive orders, people aren't paying attention to because of this one, right? And there's a lot of dangerous ones in those other executive orders. So, but now, so that's my criticism of Trump.

By the way, this would ironically give me extra rights, because you'd have to reinterpret the 14th Amendment, 14th Amendment says that all persons born or naturalized in the United States are full citizens. If you take out the people that were born here, that only leaves naturalized citizens, me. Okay, so I now have more rights than you guys. Okay, so it's an absurdity beyond imagination. So okay, now about the practical consequences. Now I've got to tell the folks on the left, please stop panicking. And so this is an interesting conversation we all need to have, okay? Because the panic is causing more problems than the actual issue, right? Because immediately, a Reagan

appointed judge said it was the most unconstitutional thing he has ever seen and immediately struck it down. And so will all the other courts, okay? It's totally absurd. But if you deliver your baby before it's time, that will have actual consequences, massive consequences. So you want to hate Trump for threatening it? Makes sense. Because even when he's, whatever the president says is chilling to begin with, right? It has rammer. Even his speech has ramifications. I'm not trying to shut down his speech. He's the president. I get it. He can propose even extreme policies. I get it. That doesn't mean he should, right? But from how we react to it is also important.

And so please don't do this. And besides what you're doing it so irrationally, once he signs the executive order, there's a, first of all, there's a 99.8% chance that it's not going to be put into place. But in the crazy scenario where they, that judge gets overruled, and the other one gets overruled, and it goes all the way to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court is totally rabid and lost its mind and takes away birthright citizenship. It would have been taken effect when he did the executive order, it's already too late. So don't, don't do any of this nonsense, right? So, but it isn't too late. There's like, this isn't, he's trying to distract you. He's trying to agitate you. Don't help him do that.

Nina, what do you think? Yes, Cenk, you bring up some very excellent points. I mean, when we act in, in despair, and we shouldn't be acting in despair, definitely be cognizant of it. It is shocking all what Trump specializes in. To add to something that John said, he is the chaos king, and and this is what he loves me. He thrives in this environment. You know, I just penned an op-ed, which is in the nation magazine as of today, about how we must keep going, that our mission has not changed, that we must continue to fight. And we were going to have to fight no matter who won the White House, the fact that Trump is

in his 2.0 season now means we had to fight a different and deeper way. But the fight still continues, and that's really all they do want us to do is get us distracted. Those other executive orders that you were talking about, Jink, I mean, one takes away protections for those who have Medicaid and will allow them to force work requirements and all of this crazy stuff that this man is doing, repealing of some of LBJ's, you know, 19605 executive orders. So there's so much going on right now that we do have to focus our efforts and our energy and we have got to organize and we must use the legal system to our advantage. And there are groups out there who are doing that and definitely big ups to the Reagan appointed judge, first name, Judge John Coglin, or hopefully I didn't butcher his name, who said, and I quote, blatantly unconstitutional, end quote. So we got to use the tools at our disposal, Jink and John. And one of those tools is to be calm and organize and get ready to fight these fools. Because that's what it's going to take.

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As Nina said, yes, blatantly unconstitutional says, I can't remember another case where the question presented is as clear as it is here. And he's been around for a while. He goes on to say, I have difficulty understanding how a member of the bar can state unequivocally that this is a constitutional order. It boggles my mind. Where were the lawyers when this decision was being made? I don't know, maybe they were there, but they were Lena Haba or Rudy Giuliani.

Maybe they were doing their best, and they really don't know. But anyway, I have a few more thoughts on this. I do want to teed up though to a video because it is not just Donald Trump through an executive order that is trying to get this done. Take a look at this. Now with the Birth Rights Citizenship Act of 2025, we can solidify these reforms into lasting law and codify them. This bill is quite simple. Let me share with you the criteria for automatic citizenship. Citizenship will be granted only to children born in the

United States with at least one parent who is, one, a U.S. citizen or national, number two, a lawful permanent resident, and number three, a lawful resident who is serving in the military. If the framers of the 14th Amendment would have known how abused the notion of birthright citizenship would be, which was not even a notion in the 1860s, they would have been absolutely stunned. Oh, okay, sorry, I thought that we just took the plain text of the Constitution. I didn't think that we could just think about what they would, like if they knew how bad it would get, then we can reinterpret it.

So even something as simple as the 14th Amendment, it just says there, if you're born here, you're a citizen, oh, but it's really bad, okay, okay, well, then in that case, we can take other amendments that might be really plainly written. I mean, they think the Second Amendment is super simple, but if they had only known how bad it would get, I mean, if they knew that schools were being shot up in churches and bars and festivals and concerts and all that, well then obviously they would have changed our mind. And we could just all decide to rewrite the Constitution whenever we want, right? whoever the hell that guy was who should probably see a doctor soon.

Look, I think that cosplay and costumes are fun. Those guys are dressing up as if they're the founders. They've printed out their stupid little paper, they think it's the Constitution. But of course, they have no more capacity to unilaterally change the Constitution than Donald Trump does. But the reason I want us to talk about this isn't that they can do it, they can't. Amendments are a thing for a reason, a law is not an amendment. It's that this has become so normalized. Like, look, I had my 13th and anniversary at TYT yesterday, I think. So I've been around for a while, but I haven't been around nearly as long as you.

When Lou Dobbs was online, that's who I think of as like a rabidly anti-immigrant person on the news or whatever. Was he even advocating for birthright citizenship to be taken away? Like I think you would have had 15 years ago, you would have had to go to stormfront.org or something to get somebody advocating for that. And now it's Trump, it's the Congress, it's all of the right wing media, TV and independent, or whatever they call themselves, and a significant portion of his base, just because they're always looking for something more. Like we shut down the border, barely any people are getting across, well, we got to get something, and this is the next big thing for them.

Yeah. So if, you know, they say in that proposal, one parent is a citizen or a legal resident, etc. And you know which part of the constitution it says the part about the legal resident, on the one parent, oh right, none of it. It doesn't say that at all. The 14th Amendment is crystal clear. It says all persons born or naturalized in the United States period, okay?

So in order for you to interpret that into the Constitution, you would have to have the most activist justices you have ever seen in your lifetime. They'd have to just make up words and make up phrases and things that the founding fathers, those guys in that press conference admitted, never said. They said they would have said it if they live, of today, I know they would have agreed with me and written it differently.

But brother, they didn't write it differently and you just admitted it. So you know, and this is not a proposal for an amendment. There's a different one in today's show. That one is also nuts as well. But at least it's a proposal of an amendment and that is the right process. This is an executive order that's blatantly unconstitutional and doesn't give a damn that it's unconstitutional. And then it says, oh, but the founding fathers would have and could have, but didn't, but who

Who cares about the Constitution? I thought that, you know, the right wing said over and over again that they love the Constitution and they revere the Constitution. They're like, oh, it's a little inconvenient for us because we don't want these immigrants doing this thing. So let's just rewrite it with activist just justices. Okay, why don't you just say you never meant a word you said? So you didn't care about activist judges as long as they were on your side. You didn't care about the Constitution or violating it as long as you were the ones violating it. So, look, I know not everybody on each side believes these things, and I know sometimes

some of the most extreme things are proposed and some are opposed and some are in favor, but Donald Trump proposed this one. That was an executive order, so it comes from the top. So it's not like you can say, oh, no, it's just a rando, a commenter or a rando congressman. No, it was Trump and he likes doing things like this. I know that partly he's doing it to tell his base, I hate immigrants as much as you do, but nevertheless, this is not how you're supposed to govern a country that has a constitution. And I just keep saying it every time. And at the same time, it's a perfect example of why we shouldn't over panic. Senator Turner's absolutely right. There's plenty of terrible things in there that we've got to organize

and find a smart, logical, reasonable way to push back on and win on. But if we spend all of our energy freaking out about the least likely things, and then taking counterproductive measures like having these early births, don't do that. Let's let's do it right. Let's, if they're doing it wrong, let's be more strategic on our side and fight back effectively. Last word, Nina. And Gene, I mean, that's exactly what they want us to do to use our energy and exacerbation. We only have a finite amount of time, a finite amount of energy, and we should not use it by freaking out, even as this man just, he just throws bombs everywhere. He is coming in like the Tasmanian devil because that is how he gets his energy.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned, absolutely we should be concerned, but you cannot make purposeful decisions when you're when you are are feeling desperate. We got to step back and and take a breath and these people are asinine. I mean, I just I feel as though this this has to be the year of awakening, Jink and John. It has to be. And if this is what is going to take for the masses of people in this country of good consciousness to wake up and to unite, then so be it. We have got to fight and fight harder. And it's not just because of Donald J. Trump. He is a symptom of a larger problem. But I tell you what, the Democrats failed and they failed epically. And Donald J. Trump, President Donald J. Trump understands how to use power. He didn't walk in there saying,

let me do a bipartisan. He didn't say, let me reach across the aisle. He said, oh, no, hell, no, I'm about to sign a whole bunch of executive orders and get people all razzed up. And meanwhile, back at the ranch, you know, the Democrats, we got to do things bipartisanly. If it's any lesson, you got to use power when you have it and use it to the good. And had they did that, we would not be in this situation right now. So, Jink, I know you said you're annoyed. I'm annoyed too, because we would not have been in this situation if the neol liberals had to step the side and did the right thing. They brought us Trump 2.0, and I'm livid about it. Yeah, I can't agree anymore. than that. I mean, if I could go to 101% agreement, I would. Nina speaks for me.

Yeah. Thankfully, those neoliberals are no longer in charge of the Democratic Party. Okay. Well, hey, cross your fingers three years from now. We will all better make sure that they are not in charge of this party. Otherwise, we've seen what they do, wall-to-wall losses. Okay, we're gonna take a short break. We'll be back. Book Club on Monday Jim on Tuesday Date night on Wednesday Out on the town on Thursday

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I'm going to read a lot more comments in the next social break from our members, but I've got to read just this one here. Dragon with Flaggin, right? They should put Nina speaks for me on a shirt. Ooh, not such a bad idea. I like it. Great. I love that. Thank you. Yeah, all right, John. Okay, let's get back into it.

President Donald Trump signed yet another executive order yesterday. In this case, to promote cryptocurrency in the US, which if I'm not mistaken, I think he has billions of dollars invested in, which would seem to be somewhat of a conflict of interest. Am I out of something there? Yeah, this is one of the things I'm most worried about because Trashing the Constitution, et cetera, is so extreme, and it would take, they'd have to use up all their power and then probably get burned on it. It would probably end disastrously not just for the country, but for Trump. But on this crypto stuff, they're going to do that. And my prediction is, it's going to cost us an unreal amount of money.

So this is the thing you should be focused on. I have that concern, and I have a related concern, which we'll get to. But I do want to give people a little bit of the text from the executive order, it says the digital asset industry plays a crucial role in innovation and economic development in the United States, as well as our nation's international leadership, which proves that you can literally type anything you want to an executive order. You just put it there, and it's just words. It doesn't have to mean anything or be true or be connected to anything, but he said it. And shortly after the order was issued, the SEC rolled back accounting guidance that had deterred banks from getting involved with crypto. So I hadn't really thought about another great recession being caused by cryptocurrency, but I think we just took another big step towards that because all they've ever wanted to do is gamble, that's all crypto is, and they're now being told, no, it's totally cool.

You can just take people's money and then gamble it in cryptocurrency. That seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Additionally, he announced that his administration will evaluate whether to create a quote, national digital asset stockpile making good and a promise to support the use of cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin. You know how like we have a national reserve of oil in case of an emergency? This way in case we desperately need Bitcoin or Doge or something, it'll be there just in case. Now he didn't actually set it up and some crypto advocates had been pushing for that. So this does not go as far as they perhaps wanted. They wanted Bitcoin, they say that Bitcoin is the new

digital gold, which doesn't mean anything, but it sounds kind of cool in a techy sort of way. And they say we need to have a reserve just like we do with gold as if they're similar. So anyway, the big issue that I have with this is that Donald Trump, like with TikTok, was very clear in his first term, it's a scam. And he is now very supportive of it. Now I'm not calling that hypocritical because I don't think he's changed his mind. I think he knows very well that it's still a scam, but he also found out this week that he can make literally billions of dollars by being a part of the scam. So that's worrying that what he does here will have ramifications for his own wealth beyond anything you can imagine. The stuff they were saying

about Hunter Biden making money and Joe Biden, that is orders of magnitude smaller than what we're seeing here. Also, the crypto lobby already put more than $130 million at a congressional races the last time around. So there's a huge financial component there for elections, but also my biggest fear, and maybe I'm panicking, you let me know, is he set up his meme coin or whatever, and cryptocurrency is very difficult to track. Huge sums of money are going around. You can be an international person living in another country. What is stopping basically untraceable massive sums of money being transferred to Donald Trump and his family through this coin or through his actual crypto platform that he's set up, where presumably that would

be very buttressed by this sort of executive order. I feel like we've been focusing a lot on the evil of the last few days, but I think the corruption might dwarf the cruelty and the unconstitutionality. I think he has set up the possibility of bribery beyond any prior president's wildest fantasies. That's only 100% true. So I think that here's how Trump's thinking on it when, this crypto stuff's a scam. Wait a minute, this crypto stuff's a scam. Okay, remember he's a legendary con man. He had a fake university, he had a fake charity, he had to pay fines for both of them,

admit that he was guilty. And remember what he's famous for in business. He always tips his investors. So, and he literally says, well, it's good business. You take their money and then you don't pay them back. No, that's not good business. That's just you being a con man. So when he realized, oh my God, this is the con of all cons.

He went, con. And so, look, there's tons of bad news here. I'll give you a tiny bit of good news. As you guys, a lot of you know, been going on some right wing shows or people that, and everybody's all over the board. Some of them are not really quite right wing, but I was on it with a guy who voted for Trump yesterday. And when I mentioned Trump's meme coin, he's like, oh, yeah, that's a scam. Yeah, the meme coins are scams.

And Trump's meme coin is definitely a scam. So there are a lot of people who support Trump who are like, yeah, no, no, no, we get it. He's definitely robbing people there. Okay, so that's, and guys, remember, he's not robbing us, so you don't have to, like, I'm going to tell you how he's going to rob us in a second. But you don't have to, you're, like, he's going to make billions. And if that drives you crazy, I hear your brother's assistant. And it drives me crazy because he's never earned any of it, right?

In my opinion, but in this one, he's just robbing his own supporters. And his, like the ring around him is robbing his supporters because they all buy and low. Trump already has 80% of it, right? And so the way that they make money is when Trump's supporters come in and buy it and drive up the price, and then they dump it on them. And so when they dump it on them, and let's say that it started at town, and it went to $50, and it gets to $50, they sell, so they just made $40 per share.

These are all examples, so they're super happy. The Trump Insiders got rich off of that, and then it'll go from 50 to zero. Oh, that's your $50. So if you're a MAGA, you're gonna lose that money. But you say, hey, I know it's speculation and I want to get in and then dump it on some other sucker. Hey, that's your business, it's a free country. And then you get burned on it, it's a free country, okay? But the problem, but there's two giant problems and I got to get to Nina here because some of this actually affected her personally.

But yeah, yeah, one is that other countries and companies and individuals can easily bribe Trump through this because you just buy his meme coin and he has 80% of it. He just keeps your money. It's the easiest bribe in the world and you won't be able to stop it. So I think that is going to happen for four straight years. told you coming in, number one thing he's going to do is rob the place, because that's who he is. He's a robber, right? Like all the moral stuff that we're worried about, that's all distraction. He doesn't care about that. If he thought he could effectively rob people by being a saint, then he would have been a saint, right? He's just distracting you

with all the other stuff so that he can get rich on this stuff. So now, the main issue I have on the policy here is digital stockpile, wait a minute, when the crypto guy started all of this, They said, we're doing this because we don't want government. Government is bad. And we don't get your stinking government hands off to our crypto. We don't want any government regulation. They're like, oh, now it's worthless. Oh, government guarantees it.

Now it's worth something. Okay, isn't that a beautiful magic trick? Now, let me ask you guys this. I'm going to read from CNBC of all places. Crypto investors, crypto investors, companies and executives accounted for almost half of corporate donations in the 2024 election cycle. The corporate donations in the cycle were monstrous, were enormous, and they had half of them. Do you think they did that out of their goodness of their heart? Oh, you know, just because they care so much about the general welfare. Or do you

think they thought, well, who cares if we put in 100 million, 200 million or 400 million? We're going to take billions of fake money and have the American taxpayers guarantee it. And if things go badly, We'll just take it from the American taxpayers. So of course it's worth it to do endless bribes because we're going to make 10 times, 100 times that money. So that robbery is headed like a freight train right towards you. And I know the right wing will never believe it. And at this point, the right wing loves crypto more than they love Trump.

So this is the thing they'll get most angry about. They'll be livid and you don't understand crypto, you don't understand Bitcoin, you don't understand this. We got this. Well, if you got this, then don't come and ask us to back up your fake money. I don't want my real money and taxpayer money going to your fake money. Oh, if it's not, and I know what they're going to say now. It's not fake. You don't know anything about it. Good. If it's real, then you keep it. Enjoy it. It's a free country. Go nuts with it. Don't ask me to guarantee it. If it's real, it's real.

The only reason you want me to guarantee it is because it's fake and you know it's fake. Go and cry about it. All right, Nina, this affected you because they said these crypto bros spent the money against you. And you were gonna win that seat in Ohio until these sons of bitches came in. That's exactly right, Jink. I'm having flashbacks just listening to you and John talk. Bankman freed was the main one. Yes, crypto came in like a storm.

And I remember like it was yesterday getting a call from one of the people working on my campaign saying that he had heard the rumor that Bankman Free was going to jump into this race, that he was going to make some calls and try to head it off. It was all crypto, it was all based on me believing that both Israelis and Palestinians have a right to safety, security, freedom, those little things like that. But yeah, it came in like a storm. And the same thing happened, we know, to Bush and also to Bowman. And as you just laid out jink, the amount of money that they spent both on the Democratic side

and the Republican side because both of these parties are captured. I want our audience to understand this. They are captured by corporate power. This is crony capitalism at its worst in our face. And as far as President Donald J. Trump is concerned, he was against it before he was forward, before he was forward. And as long as it works out for him, he is for it. And jink, your point about government, get out of our way.

Only if government backs what we want to have happen, then we like the government. If it's not back in what we want, then we don't like the government. I hope that the everyday people of this nation are seeing that these folks are playing in our face, which is another reason why not just conscious minded folks should unite. We need working class people from all walks of life to come together because unless you have a trust fund, unless you have a sugar mama, a sugar daddy or sugar somebody, we are all at peril with these fools. He is like the wizard. Don't look behind the curtain. And definitely the shell game, baby.

This is what President Donald J. Trump is doing coming in the door. Yeah, I have one more prediction because I made some bold predictions saying that Trump has some percent of chance of going right in some of policy issues, right? A small minority of issues and people got really mad about that, et cetera, right? So I'll make a bold prediction that the right we can get mad about. So we'll all be even, okay? So if if they don't rob us at all through crypto in Trump's four years, I'll come back out and I apologize and say, I was wrong. No, they never ran any scam. They said they didn't need the government and they didn't use the government.

They didn't, you know, they just did whatever they do and they run in their thing and it didn't. And they didn't use the government to rob the American people at all. And I'll come out and say it, right? But I think they're almost definitely going to do that. And so that's my prediction. And then when they do, there's something that they're miscalculating. David Sachs, who's running this program and all the other people, Elon Musk and all these guys who are about. If I'm right and they take, look, I think the numbers will be so gigantic, it'll boggle their imagination.

If you take that much money from the taxpayers, you're inviting a wrath like you have never seen. Because the country's already a Tinder bucks. Well, we're already angry and we're already angry at the oligarchs and the elites and the donor class that keep taking and taking and taking. And if like we were angry at the banks, we were angry at the oil companies, we're angry at the pharmaceutical companies. But if the crypto bros and the oligarchs and the tech guys rob us even more, imagine the rage there's going to be in this country, not just from the left, but also from the right who got robbed. Yeah. So buyer beware all around. Yeah, and if he is ripping off right wingers, I mean, we've already seen over the last year their willingness to engage in political violence, the attempts on Trump's life from Maga people, like it could be even worse.

I'll say on that look, 2-2-2. I hope none of that happens. I hope nothing physical ever, ever, ever happens to anyone on any political side. I'm just being realistic with you guys that there's only so much the donors can poke the average American. There's only so much the donors can poke the average American. There's only so much the donors can take from the average American before people go, I don't give a goddamn what media says, whether it's mainstream media or right wing media. I got eyes and ears. It's the frickin' donors. The donors control everything.

And then Trump said he was going to drain the swamp and that he wasn't going to be, you know, controlled by the donors. And if his donors rob us, I'm telling you, not just the left, not just independence, but a portion of his base is going to go, oh, you son of a bitch. You just get you were just another trick, another trap for the donors to rob us again. And it will be a straw that breaks the camel's back. I'm going to send everyone a break with a prediction. So I already predicted the SEC telling banks they should invest in crypto.

That's your next big recession. They should start planning the next movie, the next big short. The second one is crypto got massively into the elections. They're gonna start first perhaps advertising on CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, and then they're gonna start investing to control those networks, because they're gonna need hosts going on there and telling people like, maybe this is a good idea. You know, they buy CNBC or they get involved with Fox business. They start telling people like, yeah, no, I know it's failing constantly. And Donald Trump is basically, he's put out hawk coin or whatever, but you should get involved in it. I feel like that could be the next big thing, the same way pharma and a big energy has.

In any event, we do have to take a break. We'll be back with more after this. All right, back on TYT, Jank, John and Nina with you guys, Donovan Dieterick. Thank you for joining by hit that beautiful join button below the video on YouTube. By the way, on YouTube, you don't have to just join and become a paying member. We'd love it if you do it. We appreciate you supporting the show. You get all the content, including John's True North, which is a great series that he did.

But you could also just subscribe for free. And that's a great way of following the show as well. All right, John. It is. Okay, let's talk a little bit about strategy for the Democrats going forward, starting with this. I thought that I would create one of my favorite all-time recipes. Now, I'm going to be moving fairly quickly. So unless you're a professional chef, you may want occasionally.

pause the video so you can keep up what do we need well we need some bread we need mayonnaise we need cheese and we need good old-fashioned tuna two pieces of bread put them out on the plate open up the mayonnaise I love meo I know my kids hate mail but make sure you get plenty on both sides you got to make sure you distribute this evenly across the bread in a way that's even and appropriate. Next, your favorite cheese. For me, medium cheddar.

And I'm a two-slice man. You need a heating device. I'm going with the MVP-5, and mine are one of my old favorites, usually about 30 seconds. You can whip up this favorite in virtually no time. I don't think I've ever wanted a video to turn out to be a deep face. more. But I think that was from 2020. That was Democratic Senator Mark Warner. I had missed it in 2020. Get off my back. I was busy. There was a lot going on. But I guess that's one way to communicate with the voters. I'm hoping it's satire, if not a deep fake. Do you remember

that? No, but I do remember the era where everybody was cooking on Instagram, et cetera. And like the first time IOC did it, it was fun, it was interesting. And then everybody's like, I'll copy that. So wait till you see what we're about to tell you. They think that that might be their next grand strategy. Oh my God, please stop. And you know, same thing we all felt as he was putting that mayo on the bread, please stop. And I say that, and as you can tell from a guy who likes mayo, okay? Okay, but bounds the reason, brother, but wait until you get a load of their strategy. Yeah, that is really something. But maybe it's the way forward. Hashtag two-slice party. But anyway, apparently they're they're talking about different strategies,

how to communicate, what language you use, how to use social media, and that I guess is one of the good ones. So they're trying to figure out their message. And of course, Donald Trump was all over the place, every podcast, every Twitch show, he was on TikTok, he was on Joe Rogan and all that stuff. And so they're trying to figure out the strategy, and they're only in the early days, because evidently they haven't been thinking about it in an ongoing fashion, seems like a dereliction of duty, but they've landed on we should talk about the economy. And I think that's a good idea, actually. Weird that you've only thought of it now, but that's what they're working on. Representative Emmanuel Cleaver of Missouri said,

people are sitting around in circles quietly talking about what the strategy ought to be. Are there changes that we need to make? Do we hold Trump accountable in everything that we don't like that he does or should we be more selective? And okay, so CNN apparently has a scoop on this private Senate Democrat luncheon from last week, no word on if they had tuna melts there. But anyway, Democrats apparently scoured examples of how conspiracy theories, like one about Haitian immigrants eating pets in Springfield, Ohio spread rapidly in conservative media, and how Democrats needed to try to harness their own tools to get their messages out better. And so one of the examples they said that they liked, a bright spot,

was that video of Senator Mark Warner working on that tuna melt, he called it, I guess. Anyway, senators talked about the need to repost each other's social media post to try and organically get their message out. But they also argued they can't abandon traditional media altogether. Well, sure, I mean, Trump went on Fox News and all that stuff. And I don't know, like I want them to have these conversations. I would, though, like them to be at a more advanced phase than maybe we should retweet each other. I feel like Twitter's been around for a while. I feel like you should have something more, but, but anyway, they also were asked about,

well, you know, he's going on like right wing entertainment infrastructure. What about the left wing infrastructure? And apparently they weren't familiar with it. Senator Cory Booker said it doesn't exist, which, ouch, first of all, buddy. But anyway, I'm gonna explain that one. Hey, Jank, you don't exist. Well, some new wish. And this is why they lost.

Okay, I'm about to leap out of my skin. I'm sorry, I am losing it. And I know everybody in the studio can see me rocking in my seat. This is why they lost America. And first of all, that is no way. Absolutely no way to make a tuna milk. Okay, that's the most important lesson here. Do not nuke. Do not put mayonnaise in the microwave. Lord, have mercy on my soul.

That's one, two, three, four, and five. Those, that's my major concern. But no, this is why they lost. This is why they lost. So they think going on on TV and having a better message, no, how about you deliver for the American people when you control the House, the Senate, and the presidency? How about increasing the federal minimum wage? How about in those swing states, This presidential election cycle of 2024 that the overwhelming majority of folks in those swing states wanted Medicare for all. How about that? How about you run on some stuff and deliver some stuff? That's how you win. But you want to compete with Donald J. Trump on his own turf in terms of media.

This is insane as hell. And that is why we got Donald Trump 2.0. These folks don't know what they're doing. They just do not know what they're doing. They need to go. We don't need any of them. You talk about getting rid of the consultants that consulted, how they just took a, a billion dollars and just put it in the front yard and set it on fire, all of these folks need to go.

Yeah. So I've got a lot of thoughts on this. First, they look into online media. And now we see how, this is such a great story because you see how antiquated they are. They're fossils. They have no earthly idea what's happening in the real world. How many times did I tell you on this show? They live in a bubble, this little cocoon in Washington. And that cocoon has nothing to do with the rest of the world and they don't know it. And you could tell from that because they're earnestly having a conversation. Well, we've investigated online media and we found out there are no left wingers online. And they love tuna melts, okay?

And if you just go on Instagram or the TikTok or the talky tick or whatever that thing that Israel wants to ban, and then you just pour on the mayonnaise that Americans love that. And that would that makes you relatable. And then it turns out we should retweet each other. Uh, 2010 called and would like its clue back. Isn't that amazing? And they're asking Cory Booker because the 70 and 80 year old senators have no freaking idea. They don't even know what the internet is, right?

And Corey is now, I mean, I'm in my 50s. I don't know if he's in his 60s yet, but he's like, it's okay, I've been investigated this. I have it on good authority. Yeah. Okay, now guys, but there's things you might not know. And so it gets this with Democratic establishment, it always gets worse, right? Kamala's ad strategy was to go on online.

go on online media, a lot of people don't know this, but to buy only right wing shows, ads on right wing shows. They're never going to vote for you. And you just gave them more money and more power. What are you doing? What are you doing? How many millions did she spend advertising on TYT? Zero. And you know why? Because they criticized me. How dare they? Plus they don't exist. Well, if you're this freaking clueless. I mean, look, guys, we have a lot of undecided voters because of what they did in Gaza, et cetera, et cetera. Yes, we did. Those are the exact voters they needed to reach. I don't need you to advertise, but I need you to have a brain and try to figure

out how to get to those people to vote for you. That is politics 101. 101. They're like, we got it. We just give money to Tim Poole and we'll get more votes. Oh, you morons, you morons. So look, I don't know if they gave attempt specifically, but I know for a fact that they advertise just on right wing shows. That is unbelievably stupid. So okay, I'm not done yet. So when he says there's none on our side, that actually gets to the core of the issue, because he's actually half right. So since we won't do what they're used to, which is traditional on media. Hey, CNN and MSNBC and New York Times and Washington Post are on our side.

And by our, I don't mean the Democratic side, I mean the establishment side, okay? Since those guys will kiss our ass from here till the cows come home. And I know, because when I was a host on MSNBC, not only when I criticized Democrats would I get a talking to, but when I criticize the former Republican I got a talking to, okay? So no, no, no, no, no, establishment must be protected to access, access. Oh, come on here, 80 year old senator, oh, tell us how young you are. And that's what they're used to. So when he says there isn't left wing media online, what he means is those guys won't kiss our ass.

So obviously we would never go on their show. We'll only go on shows that tell everybody how we're the greatest thing on earth. Oh, you won't do that. Well, then you don't exist. But even that's wrong. Because have you not looked at anything online? Look, I'll throw out a name. There are many, many, many names, but I'll throw out one because everyone knows this and

I think he knows it. Harry Sisson, right? So that kid will kiss any ass you got if you're an establishment Democrat. You'll kiss it on the left side, kiss it on the right side. So you could use him, and by the way, some Democrats did. But the senators are like, oh, what is a what is a sisson? And how does it work? Like God, Jesus Christ.

And finally, the best point is Nina's as usual. Since they know they won't do policy to help us, then they have to rely, they had to rely on media to do marketing as if they did the policy. But now that they established from media's legs have been knocked out, they're lost. They're like, without our propaganda, what do we do? I don't know, how about you fight for popular proposals that are already on your side. Okay, here, Mark Warner, Cory Booker, all. the Democratic senators, I'll clue you in to the most obvious thing in the world, but you

morons still won't do it, not just because you're stupid, which you are, but also because you're corrupt. Paid family leave. It polls at 84%. It polls at 74% among Republican voters. If you can't fight for that, I can get that passed in the Trump era, but you morons couldn't get it passed in the Biden era or the Obama era, etc. I mean, I'm giving you I mean, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. I think I actually think you're craving and corrupt. But if you're not corrupt, then you're the world's worst politicians. But I'm sure the tuna melt will fix it.

100%. Yeah. Woo! Yeah, I'm just going to by saying, I know that it's mostly posturing, but they suffer this terrible defeat. And now what are they saying when they go in the media? Like I see like Schumer was saying, and you see others like that we should be concerned about the rise of the oligarchy, which we should. We 100% should.

But they're saying that. Like all of a sudden, nobody had ever, the word was invented, I think two weeks ago. Nobody's ever talked about it before. Now that they're worried about it. And also, what if we had a dynamic communicator that knew how to like talk to everybody on social media, but particularly young people, like you did. Like it would be one thing if the Democrats were just cursed that they never had any of this. But they did and they shut it down.

They shut down Bernie eight years ago. They shut down AOC, it's about six years ago. at this point, they've had all of that. They could have been using it. But Nancy Pelosi, obviously is a much smarter person than me because she's very wealthy, was like, no, no, get to the back of the line. Shut up AOC and the rest of you that are popular amongst the youngs. What's this green new dream of yours? And oh, Bernie Sanders with his oligarchy and all. It's so boring. Nobody cares about that. They were both right. They've been right for years. And okay, fine, you shut them down in the past. That doesn't bother me nearly as much as the fact that you're still going to

You know that you're still going to. You're not going to suddenly turn to AOC because you desperately need to save not only our but your asses. They definitely are still going to do the exact same thing. That's because they're owned by the donors, the donor owners, as Nina puts it. That's it. That's it. Yeah, and so they're going to go and say to their donor owners, do I have permission

to pass a super popular bill? And the owners will say, no, shut up and make it make me a tuna belt sand. Mark Warren's like, okay, yes sir, yes sir, I'm gonna get all the mayo on there for you. Is it good enough? Is did I put enough mayo on there? Okay, a bunch of losers. Okay, guys, none of this matters. The only thing that matters is winning the Democratic primary in 2028. Okay, these guys are never going to turn around.

They're not going to become angels overnight. They're not going to reject the donor money overnight. They're not going to stop being corporate goons, not only overnight, ever, ever, right? Our answer isn't to convince Mark Warner to be a decent human being. Our answer is to defeat them in the Democratic primary in 2028. If you don't do that, it's a guaranteed loss of the Republicans. So up to you guys. You can keep, go, oh, no, no, Democratic leadership is, they're demigods.

They're so smart. We can't figure out their four, you know, four dimensional trust is so amazing. Joe Biden is young, he's 35. Joe Biden is 35. He is young and dynamic, and you should trust us. We know exactly what we're doing. You make the mistake of trusting them again, then don't come, and saying, oh my God, can you believe a Republican one?

Yeah, that's only what we've been telling you for eight straight years. It's not just that Bernie's policies are better. It's that they would win because they're popular and your stupid corporate policies are unpopular. But go ahead, run another campaign where Kamala Harris, because I have a letter, 90 CEOs are on my side. Corporate CEOs love me and so does Dick Cheney. Dick and Liz Cheney love me. He loved me. I love war and corporations. I lost. Oh, God damn, somebody make me a sandwich. You got back to the sandwich at the end. On it. I mean, Senator, I mean, I was with him both of his

campaign cycles. We know how popular it was in all parts of this country. And then thanks to the neoliberals that crushed, especially in 2020 when he made history by winning Iowa. Yes, Little Petey, he won Iowa, Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada at the, you know, nothing like that had been done in a Democratic primary. And we had people like Congresswoman Corey Bush, who slept out as we all remember so that the, so that the Biden administration would extend the housing stuff so that people wouldn't be out on the streets during the time of COVID. So we had those kinds of leaders and leaders who didn't turn back. I mean, we got some folks who turned back who stood up there on that DNC stage and said,

Oh, they're fighting so hard and we know that that was not the truth. That's even on the progressive side. Progressives have got to stop caving and go there to do what they were designed to do. If they want to be neoliberal light, then they might as well go on ahead and be neoliberal light. Other than that, we need a real congressional progressive caucus. And we also need a real black caucus that is going to stand up for downtrodden people and honor why the congressional black caucus was created in the first place. I'm very upset and annoyed about that because they're not doing what they were commissioned to do.

If they were doing that, again, we wouldn't be in this situation. Those two caucuses had a stood up. We would not be in this situation. But here we are making tuna sandwiches with lots of mayo. Yep. All right. God damn it, we're out of time. All right, we didn't get into one story, but it happens.

And John, where's your dragon tie? You were supposed to get it for the shop, TYT, not people not said it to you? I haven't seen it yet. I may it's still in the way. Okay, we got a new dragon tie for his 13th anniversary. I shop too much. Happy anniversary. Thank you.

Yeah, happy anniversary. 13, my lucky year, I'm sure. Hey, Jink, I know we got to go, but I want viewers, our audience to catch Dr. West and myself, Truth Time, Monday through Friday on KBLA Talk, 1580. Nice. Oh, awesome. All right, I love that. Check out Nina there.

Check out John on the damage report. We got an amazing hour coming up. coming up, you're gonna love the Lauren Boebert story. It's unreal, all right, come right back.