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Episode Date: July 19, 2023

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Well, we begin with the biggest news story of the day, and it has to do with not the first, not the second, but likely the third indictment for Donald Trump. Damn. He has received a letter from special counsel, Jack Smith, telling him that he is the target of an investigation by a Washington, D.C. based grand jury examining the January 6th insurrection and efforts to overturn the 2020 election. Former President Donald Trump is likely to be indicted for the third time, this time, in connection to the investigation of January 6th.

and the Trump campaign's attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Now, reporting for the New York Times, Trump said on Tuesday, he was the one who actually broke the news to all of us, that he had received a so-called target letter from the special counsel, Jack Smith, in connection with the criminal investigation into his efforts to hold on to power after he lost the 2020 election, a sign he is likely to be indicted in the case. Now, this is going to be an incredibly difficult case for Jack Smith. Should Trump get indicted, considering the fact that there really is, you know, a lack of evidence here. You know, if we had former President Donald Trump on the record, for instance, repeating over and over again that he was attempting to overturn the results of the 2020 election and that he was attempting to install fake electors in his plot to do so, you know, the case would be a lot easier.

But I don't know, Jank. Have you seen such evidence? I think I might have. I think I might have seen him say about, I don't know, 488 times that the election is stolen. There was 2,000 mules and massive dumps. Okay, so none of that is true. They had 60 court cases. He never presented any evidence. But this is really good news for Donald Trump.

This is potential indictment, one that appears to be imminent. Because now he can go to court and prove that the election was stolen. Perfect. Perfect. Maga, you should be thrilled. This is like the best news there is. You'll get to bring in all 2,000 mules and all that stuff and bring them all in. Is that what you sound like?

And then that way you could be like, not only did we not have fake electors, but our fake electors, I mean, our real electors show that we won the election and we're going to be redeemed. Maga must be celebrating today. Well, it is strange that it seems as though that is not the case. For instance, Republican Representative Matt Gates is furious about this and just noted that he intends to attempt to defund special counsel Jack Smith, whatever that means. But nonetheless, let's go to Donald Trump, who reacted to this the way that you would expect. He argued on truth social, of course, deranged Jack Smith, the prosecutor with Joe Biden's DOJ, sent a letter again, it was Sunday night. He seems very upset that this letter was sent

Sunday. Oh, he said it like three times. Who cares when you got it? Why does that make a difference? So Sunday night, let me continue, stating that I am a target of the January 6th grand jury investigation and giving me a very short four days to report to the grand jury, which almost always means an arrest and indictment. Well, that's certainly the case when it comes to Donald Trump. And should he be indicted here, and it does appear that will be the case. It will be his third indictment. So there are multiple investigations happening simultaneously. One investigation having to do with the hush money payments to adult actresses, the other having to do with his handling of classified documents after his term was over. Some closest to Trump have already spoken to prosecutors. So there was

already evidence even prior to today's breaking news that indicated that this special counsel investigation was heating up, he was getting very serious. Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, of course, appeared before one of the grand juries in June, according to people familiar with his appearance. Rudy Giuliani, who was Trump's personal lawyer, had a recent interview with prosecutors. Prosecutors have been asking witnesses about the former president's state of mind, as well as efforts to fundraise off of his false claims of widespread voter fraud, and whether he knew he had lost, they have also been scrutinizing efforts to put together slates of so-called fake electors to cast ballots in support of Trump when the electoral

college tallies were certified. So we don't know exactly what the charges will be in this case, but it does appear that an indictment is imminent. Okay, so now Donald Trump is trying to recap, January 6th is a number of patriots who went there and you know what did Tucker Krause and say they were tourists etc. I thought they were Antifa. They're both they're also in Tifa, they're also tourists, they're also American patriots. They didn't do it but if they did do it it was awesome and if it was bad and Tifa did it and yes MAGA believes all of these things at the same time there are a lot of cults now in America and that is that's the

largest one right and so let's find out if they were patriots that were just trying to exercise democracy. I think we have a tape of these patriots. Let's listen. Yeah, when you're chanting about executing the vice or patriots, but to be fair to those guys, this is this is also an awesome development for them. Because they've been taking the brunt of this. That's true.

And so there's a woman who's about to get six years in prison. She's the one of the ones that assaulted the cops, et cetera. And she's saying this is totally unfair. By the way, Donald Trump never helped them, never gave them a dime, even though he raised hundreds of millions of dollars for himself for legal defense, but never shared it with any of those guys. But now, but in all seriousness, this is justice where the guy who planned it is now finally going to be brought up on charges and not just the little people who executed it.

I'm not saying that as a defense of the people who are chanting to murder people. I'm saying, yeah, they should be prosecuted, but the guy at the top should be prosecuted too. And so finally, we're pursuing justice here. Now, one person who decided to take advantage of the situation today was one of Trump's political opponents, specifically in the Republican Party, someone running against him in the Republican primary for the 2024 presidential election, and that's Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. He was asked about this, and here's what he had. to say.

Difference between being brought up on criminal charges and doing things. Like, for example, I think it was shown how he was in the White House and didn't do anything while things were going on. He should have come out more forcefully. Of course that. But to try to criminalize that, that's a different issue entirely. And I think that we want to be in a situation where, you know, you don't have one side just constantly trying to put the other side in jail.

And that, unfortunately, is what we're seeing now. Look at Governor DeSantis putting his big boy pants on and going after Trump. Only halfway, though. He's only got one leg of the trouser on and he's jumping around. He's like nervous about it too. Yeah, and he's like, well, you know, as they were threatening to murder his own vice president, perhaps he should have spoken up. But he shouldn't be tried for that. He shouldn't be tried for it.

So, okay, well, I guess that's made. planning up halfway is if that's a thing that's possible. Look guys, one last thing that's important here. So it's easy to get excited because A, Trump's getting indicted and finally we're seeing some degree of justice. B, most importantly, let's protect our democracy. And this is a step in going in that direction. At the same time, this case is not going to be super easy to prove, right? There's a difference between did he do it and can you prove criminal action, right?

So when the MAGA guys say Trump didn't do it. I mean, what do you mean he didn't do it? Why did they invade the capital for Dukakis? Like that doesn't make any sense at all. Of course they did it for Trump. On the other hand, when he says, look, I said raise hell. I said fight like hell or all these, these are kind of vague terms. I didn't tell them to go break the law.

I didn't go tell them to break in the window. I knew that they were trying to murder my vice president. And I told my chief of staff that I kind of liked it. But I'm not on tape saying that and I didn't tell them to go kill people. They just got carried away. So is it me? And then when you got to present overwhelming evidence to get a guilty conviction, that's not necessarily going to be easy.

I agree with you. I don't think it's necessarily going to be easy. It really depends on whether those closest to Donald Trump are willing to turn on him. And I think that these three indictments on three separate cases, really will test whether Teflon Don is really a thing, right? I think the hush money payment indictment is the weakest of the three. I think the indictments having to do with the classified documents pretty strong. But again, I don't know if it's actually going to lead to the accountability and the consequences

that an ordinary person or maybe a low level individual from the White House would have to deal with. I actually, so I have a slightly different ranking. So I have easiest to prosecute, I've got the documents case, because it's a slam dunk. He definitely took them. He's on tape. It's definitely illegal, he's on tape admitting it, and he definitely didn't classify them. That's on tape. All of it's on tape, that is super hard to get out of.

So I think a guilty conviction there is very possible, but it's, you know, is it going to happen before the election? These are all, the timing is super important, and so I think that's the easiest to prosecute. I think the hush money payment is the second easiest to prosecute. That's also slam dunk. The only question is, do people think, like, even if he's convicted of that, I don't think that moves any voters. Like, Mago will be like, oh, he had sex with a porn star while his wife was nursing their baby, and then he paid hush money and broke campaign finance laws.

Sounds awesome to me, right? Like, they're not, that's not going to bother them 1%. In fact, they might like him more because of that. They're like family values. We were kidding, man. We love this kind of guy. So, but that's very easy to prove. The third one is, is this one, the federal, this indictment.

This one is the most important because it's addressing the attempt of coup that happened on January 6th. But I think it's the hardest one to prove, saying that he definitely directed them to do that kind of violence. Now, to me, the most important, and this is why I'm really excited about Jack Smith, and what he might be able to get him on, is not saying to the rioters, go get him, guys, go kill Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi, et cetera. But to say to the fake electors,

hey guys, write your affidavits, your legal documents saying you are the real electors, even though we know you're not. And that, by the way, is the actual coup, not the riots. The coup was the fake electors. That scheme could have worked and overturned our democracy. If Jack Smith gets him on that,

he's an awesome prosecutor and saves the democracy, not just because of, hey, getting rid of Trump or whatever. No, that's a sign that we desperately need for the rest of time. Do not try to do a coup in America. If you do, you're going to go to prison. Well, there appear to be some consequences for some of the fake electors. So let's talk a little bit about that. It's a big day when it comes to some, you know,

attempts to overturn the 2020 election. Let's talk about what's happening in Michigan. As part of the orchestrated plan, we allege that 16 Michigan residents met covertly in the basement of Michigan GOP headquarters and knowingly, and of their own volition, sign their names to multiple certificates, stating that they were the duly elected and qualified electors for president and vice president of the United States of America for the state of Michigan. That was a lie. They weren't the duly elected and qualified electors, and each of the defendants knew it. Michigan State Attorney General Dana Nessel has announced that 16 fake electors in Michigan, who signed to

certificates falsely claiming that Donald Trump won the state of Michigan in 2020 have now been charged for their involvement in that fake elector scheme. Now Biden of course won that state and he won that state pretty handily by 150,000 votes. Now the fake elector signed certificates wrongly claiming that then President Donald Trump had actually won the state when of course that was not true and they were ready to cast their electoral votes for Trump, even though Biden won that state. Now, Nessel called the alleged plan a desperate effort to undermine democracy.

And unfortunately, we find that several of the accused are active in Republican politics. So the individuals include Michigan Republican National Committee woman, Kathy Burden. You also have former co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party, Michan Maddick. In fact, CNN had reported in early 2021 that Maddock, the co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party, was heard on an audio recording at a public event saying, quote, we fought to seat the electors. The Trump campaign asked us to do that. So that will probably be relevant in the case against Donald Trump, the special counsel, Jack Smith's case against Donald Trump. Now let's get to some more details about the 16 individuals who are charged with multiple

felonies. The counts include one count of conspiracy to commit forgery, two counts of forgery, one count of conspiracy to commit uttering and publishing, and one count of uttering and publishing, all of which carry a maximum of 14 years in prison. I have to say the charge of uttering and publishing sounds hilarious to me, even though this is a very serious matter. Nonetheless, Jank, what are your thoughts about all this? First of all, I think uttering is a real problem. Okay, no, seriously. We utter a lot here. Yeah, we're we're huge utterers. Okay, so guys, this is super important story because if she succeeds, which she, I think has an excellent chance of succeeding, it's going to set a precedent.

And the precedent is very important. So if Donald Trump's, Donald Trump or someone like him wins the election again, and they try a stunt like this when they lose, then they go and say, okay, now we need a bunch of fake electors because we lost. And so then we're going to have the vice president this time, we're going to intimidate him enough that he pretends that he has the authority to overturn the whole election. So everybody signed the papers and these guys are in jail. Then all of a sudden, electors in Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc., would be like, well, the last guys who signed the papers that were fake are sitting in maximum security for six years, 12 years, 20 years, whatever it is. So they're going to be a little bit more hesitant to sign fake papers. And so here, I love this in every way. I think this is one of the most important cases in all of the history of MAGA.

I totally agree. Because look, I get that there is this partisan component to it. And some people are, you know, there's a little bit of a ha-ha, like, but that's not what I care about here. What I care about here is whether this will prevent attempts to steal elections in the future. It is important to maintain our democratic process. And if this fake elector scheme had actually gone through, if it had worked, and Jank actually did a really great job explaining how it could have worked easily, that would have been a disaster.

And so if there aren't consequences moving forward to ensure that they don't try it again, they're going to try it again. And it could work next time. 100%. So the reason I say it's a slam dunk is because their signatures are on piece of paper that are fraudulent. So what are they going to do? I don't know how they're going to get out of it. There's no question the papers are fraudulent, and there's no question they sign them. So which leads back to the Jack Smith case.

So if these guys think that they're about to go to prison for a long time, which is definitely possible and actually even likely, a lot of them might flip. And Jack Smith has already flipped fake electors from other states. He's the special prosecutor going after Trump and is apparently going to indict him in a couple of days. So now that piles up into Trump's case, because then all of a sudden we've got all of these guys going, well, he told me to sign this fake document saying that he's the president when I knew he hadn't won and we all knew he hadn't won. Well, then Trump could be in a lot of trouble. But even if they don't get Trump on it, sending these fake electors to prison would make a giant difference in terms of deterrence. But Nessel made a couple other great points that I wanted to share with you guys. She said to Anna's point about, hey, is this political?

She said, this is the most clear case of like forgery and handing in fake documents to a government that I've ever had. If I didn't prosecuted, it would be political. It would be a political choice not to prosecute an obvious crime. And she said, so I didn't really have a choice about prosecuting or not. If I didn't, I would be saying some people have special privileges. If they're officials, their government officials, they're politicians, they get special privileges, and they can break the law. I can't do that. I had to prosecute.

And so we're going forward with the case. I think she's got a great case. And I think that those guys are in real trouble. And I'm thrilled about it. Do not try to do a coup in America. These are the real architects of the coup, not the rioters. In a second, I'm going to ask you to explain how. how the fake elector's scheme could have very easily worked.

Before I do though, I just want to note that each one of those charges carries a potential 14 years in prison. So when Jank says, it's likely that some of them are gonna spend some time behind bars, I agree with that. And remember, these aren't former presidents and these aren't high level former political operatives. These are local Republican politicians who thought they could be cute and attempt to steal an election from an individual Joe Biden who won that state.

But, Jank, so I didn't really believe the fake elector scheme could have worked until you explained to me fairly recently how easily it could have worked. So I think it's important to retell that. Yeah. So the audience understands. Okay, so as quickly as I can. So the idea was tell Mike Pence not to certify the election. Now, the vice president doesn't have a choice.

Republicans, you know that because otherwise you'd have to say Kamala Harris. has a choice to not certify the election, even if Biden loses and just hand it over to Biden. That's crazy talk. But that's what they wanted to do, because this is a coup. So they said, Pence, go pretend that you have the authority to not certify the election with the real electors. Then we're going to say, well, I guess since we couldn't certify, we're going to bring it back to the state legislatures. But the state legislatures are heavily gerrymandered and very Republican, even in purple states, even in these swing states. And those state legislatures got these fake electors ready. And the fake electors signed papers saying we are the real

electors, even though they knew they weren't. And that's why they're being prosecuted now. If they had done that, you might still say, hey, Jing, I mean, those are, I mean, those are forgeries. Those are dated and they're not the real electors. But they come back and say, well, now we have a constitutional question. How are we going to resolve it? The minute you create that question, the method by which you resolve it is you go to the House of Representatives and they tell you who the president is going to be. But they don't vote based on the number of people in the House. They vote state by state. And Republicans have more states than Democrats do in the House, even under the old term of Congress. So that way, the Republicans, the state

legislatures, and then in the House just could say, Trump won. Or there was a dispute. There was There was mules, there was crackens, there was a dispute, and we won, okay? And that way, that yes, that would have worked, and they would have stolen the election, and that would have been a coup. That is why prosecuting these guys is monumentally important as a precedent. And one last thing, this is where Trump's lack of strategy and lack of intelligence makes a giant difference. And his greed, his runaway greed makes a giant difference.

If I was Trump, I would have been paying for these guys' defense to no end. He raised several hundred million dollars for a legal defense fund. If those guys are pressured, they're going to turn on you. If those guys are convicted, you can't pull off, you can't pull another coup, right? But he's so greedy and so dumb, he hasn't helped them at all. And MAGA doesn't know to help them because all they care about is the cult of Trump. They're like, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, protect Trump. But if these guys go under, we save democracy anyway.

Look, it does, like I can say it publicly. Trump's never going to figure it out, and he's never going to give them any money. And Mag is never going to do a big defense of them. Because like Anna said, they're not at the very top. They're not the elites. So if you're not at the elites, look at the rioters. They're all going to jail. That's right.

Right? If you're not the elites, you're screwed. And if you listen to a monster like Donald Trump, he's going to get you in jail, and he's not going to ever help you. So I'm super happy that you guys made that much. monumental mistake, and now I hope you're going to suffer the consequences for trying to undermine our democracy. All right, before we go to break, the most important revelation in all of this and everything that we've talked about in the first segment of the show today is the revelation that special counsel Jack Smith looks exactly like actor Ashley Nicole Black, who is the assistant coach in Ted Lassow. No, I mean, uncanny.

Uncanny. You're so funny. Just think about that as we go to break. Okay. I was wondering what you were talking about, okay. I get it now, I get it. No, it's, that's him. Not really, but I hear you.

Okay, I hear you. We gotta take a break. When we come back, we're gonna talk a little bit about how Donald Trump very transparently is making it clear that he plans to consolidate and centralized power in the executive branch. Should he get elected again? He wants to do away with the administrative state, and I'll tell you, what that means when we return. It means fascism.

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You guys are all fantastic. Love to have you as part of the Young Turks. Casper. Well, it seems that all Trump really likes to think about is how he can be an even bigger dictator. And we're about to talk about that in this next video. This is the final battle. With you at my side, we will demolish the deep state. We will expel the warmongers from our government. We will drive out the globalists. We will cast out the communists. We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country.

That was Trump speaking at one of his rallies in Michigan just a few weeks ago. basically giving us all a preview on what he intends to do should he get elected in the 2024 presidential election. Now, one thing that he's laser focused on is dismantling the so-called administrative state in order to consolidate and centralized power in the executive branch, essentially doing away with our system of checks and balances, and doing away with the independence of federal government agencies. With that said, let's get to the specifics. Trump intends to bring independent agencies like the Federal Communications Commission, which makes and enforces rules for television and internet companies, and the Federal Trade Commission, which of course enforces various antitrust and other consumer protection rules against businesses under direct presidential control.

Now again, these are supposed to be independent agencies. Yes, they're federal agencies, but the President of the United States is not supposed to influence these agencies or have any impact on whether or not the heads of these agencies remain in those positions or get fired. Now, this again would be the execution of a very long held conservative agenda undercutting the so-called administrative state. And if you're wondering, okay, what does that mean? What is the administrative state, right? Is it just bureaucracy, needless bureaucracy? The answer is no. These are government agencies tasked with doing incredibly important things, including regulating the food we eat, the drugs we take,

protecting the environment, keeping consumer products safe for us all. And when it comes to the Federal Trade Commission, supposed to weigh in and prevent major conglomerates or major mergers from happening. Trump wants none of that. So he wants to revive the practice of impounding funds, refusing to spend money Congress has appropriated for programs a president doesn't like, a tactic that lawmakers banned under President Richard Nixon. And there's a lot more to get to. But before I do, Jank, what are your thoughts on all of this? This is exactly why it can't be Trump. And so people don't get it. They go, okay, like Ronda Santos is a terrible person. He passes these awful bills in Florida and he's doing this homophobic

campaign, et cetera. And you're right, those are all terrible things. I don't like him and it's terrible. But that's not fascism. That's just a horrible human being with policies we massively disagree with. That would take away rights. So it's don't minimize it, right? But fascism is when you do takeover over the government and you don't allow democracy back in. And that's this. That's this. This is not a little bit around the edges where you go, well, look, I think the Federal Trade Commission has too much independent authority. I'd like to be able to fire the head of the commission if they're not doing the right things, et cetera. Now that's not a good idea, but that's a maybe there's a couple of proposals here that could

be debatable under an rational normal situation. But no, the bulk of this is, no, if Congress says to spend money on this, I'm not going to because I'm the president and I can do whatever I want. All those agencies, I could fire anyone, I want, including the ones that are supposed to be independent for a really good reason, like the Justice Department. If the Justice Department is not independent, then it becomes politicized. Like they, so these guys, the MAGA guys think Trump is an angel. It's unbelievable they think that, but okay. But even if you think Trump is an angel, well, what if a Democrat was next time and

you think the Democrats are satanic and all that stuff, then they would also have this authority. Exactly. And they could do whatever they want. Exactly. And it doesn't matter what bills you pass. And then they could say, hey, the Justice Department is now no longer independent. So now we're going to put all of our opponents in prison, whether a Republican does it to a Democrat or a Democrat does it to a Republican.

I thought you guys hated that. Aren't you guys now saying I can't believe that Justice Department has been politicized? And now you say let's politicize it way more and let the president basically be a dictator? Unfortunately, I think when you have this ideologue mentality, it's hard to break past that mentality and think clearly and logically about what it actually means to. undermine our system of checks and balances, because this isn't just about undermining these independent federal government agencies. He also wants to do away with our system of checks and balances when it comes to Congress, the money they appropriate for various legislative proposals. If Trump decides, no, I disagree with Congress's appropriations here. And I'm not going

allow for this money to be utilized the way it was intended to be utilized under what he wants to do in dismantling the administrative state, he would just do whatever he wants with that money. Guys, it's not debatable. If you say the president can ignore Congress, we don't have a democracy anymore. We don't have our form of government. We have basically a dictator. And so, why is this debatable? And so, and by the way, MAGA guys, you know who came up with really pushed the idea of the unitary executive authority? Dick Cheney. He was the, and I, one of the first rants that I ever did on Young Turks, so you could find

it on YouTube, is me just yelling at the top of my lungs about the unitary executive authority, this one, right? And how Cheney was planning to have the executive branch take over and basically destroy our democracy. Now Maga hates Dick Cheney, by the way, the other people in that group are Bill Barr, John Bolton. So yeah, conservatives in that wing of the party have hated democracy. from day one and so this and now ironically it's Trump is now heralding it.

Now another very disturbing part is the guys coming up with the actual plans is the Heritage Foundation. So that means there's now corporate interests going maybe fascism not so bad. Well think about why that is because if even with all the corruption that we talk about on the show regularly right, there are still some safeguards in place. to ensure that we're not completely taken over by corporate rule. But if corporations have complete control of one level of lever of power, the executive branch, and the executive branch succeeds in dismantling the administrative state and our system of checks and balances, well, all corporations have to worry about is ensuring

that they're in the pocket of whoever the president is. Yeah, and guys, so the MAGA guys actually, a lot of them now hate big business. That's a good instinct. It's not that you should hate businesses, that you should hate their ability to bribe government officials. In my book, I talk about how the corporate interests took over the Supreme Court,

and I explain exactly how they did that. And so that book is called Justice is Coming. Now this is them trying to take over the executive branch. So then they would own two branches, and then the executive branch, according to this unitary executive theory, can just ignore Congress.

So then Congress is irrelevant. And those are theoretically are representatives. They'd already bought them anyway, but this would give them extra power. And I know you think Trump's an angel, but you think Trump wouldn't do something for money? If corporate interests or rich people said, hey, here's $100 million, do whatever we tell you. Will Trump do it? Definitely. That's another thing I wrote about in the book. He did it already for Sheldon Aedelson, who gave him $100 million in 2016 and 2020. He gave him everything he wanted. He even made his wife. He gave his wife Miriam Aedelson the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

He'll give away anything, but even if it isn't Trump, you think Biden won't do whatever corporations want? You think Manchin wouldn't do everything corporations want? This is handing the government over to the bad guys. And if MAGA, all this populist uprising was all to hand power back to corporations and big business, what are you doing, you schmucks? Right. Yeah. And again, the whole point of the unitary executive theory, it's. to reject the idea that government is composed of three separate branches with overlapping

powers to check and balance each other. I would venture to say that that's one of the greatest parts of our government, the system of checks and balances, and consolidating too much power in one branch of government is a complete and utter disaster, and that's what we're seeing here. Yeah, and there by the way, if he succeeds in it, of course. By the way, there's one other thing that conservative should theoretically hate, but that is part and parcel of this. Since that none of these agencies, including the IRS, the education department, et cetera, would no longer be independent than the president, any president, Republican or Democrat,

could say, I don't care about factual correctness anymore. These agencies will now do political correctness. So now the IRS will investigate all of my political opponents, and I can do it now. I have unitary executive authority. And the education department will do whatever I want, either teach that there's no racism at all or that everything in the world is racist. It doesn't matter because now it's all political. So since it's political, either the left or the right, whoever gets into power with this theory has unlimited power. And if you believe in democracy, you would hate this plan.

This is exactly what fascism looks like. So that's why Trump is a unique danger to our democracy. All right, we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk a little bit about what the so-called no labels party is up to and you're gonna watch some pretty annoying and maybe even infuriating clips of Joe Manchin and his self-important comments. That and more coming up. on T.Y. Jankana with you guys more news. Well, no labels is

at it again, and unfortunately this is opening up yet another discussion about Senator Joe Manchin. Let's get into it. At a town hall meeting at St. Anselm College in New Hampshire, Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat, and John Huntsman, a former Utah Republican governor, made their pitch for no labels,

a bipartisan group trying to move the nation beyond its partisan gridlock. They're just trying to move the nation beyond the partisan gridlock, everyone. That's what CNN wants you to know about no labels. Except that's not the whole story. The reality is that no labels is a dark money group funded by corporations and billionaires in favor of the status quo. And Joe Manchin, the conservative Democratic senator, might be running for president on their ticket. At least he won't

rule it out. And you're about to hear from him in the next video. Let's watch. Let's see what happens. It's too early. Everyone thinks we need to do something right. Because if you do get in the race and you spoil the elections, would you, would that factor in truth? I've never been in race I've ever spoiled. I've been in races to win.

And if I get in a race, I'm going to win. So with him, I have made a decision, and I'm not going to me, I've never made a decision. Now he went on to say, quote, I'm not here running for president tonight, I'm not. I'm here trying to basically save the nation. The guy who served as a major obstacle to Joe Biden's entire agenda is here to save the nation, everyone. I've got a lot more to get to, including who actually funds no labels. And we'll talk about our theories on what's really transpiring here.

But, Jake, I'm curious what you think about all this. Okay, so I think that everything he's saying is a lie, and I'm going to prove it to you. And I think these are some of the worst people involved in politics. but there could be a silver lining here. There could be one positive thing that comes out of it. So I'll get to that in a second. But it's interesting that there are now several different corporate groups trying to take over the government. And the different corporate interests have started to fight against each other.

So third way is a corporate group. They're on the Democratic side. But they're fighting against no labels, which is another corporate group. And then the Heritage Foundation, another corporate group is on Trump's side. And now the corporations have started to fight against each other. Because they realize the American people are helpless. And mainstream media lies on our behalf 24-7, and so does right-wing media. So let's just fight against each other and see who can win.

So these guys are the most corporate out of all the groups. They're the biggest liars out of all the groups. So when he says, oh, we're against partisan gridlock. Dude, you created partisan gridlock. You're the number one advocate for the filibuster, which is the number one reason we have partisan gridlock. Exactly. Oh my God, what a colossal liar Joe Manchin is. Have you ever seen anyone in mainstream media call him a liar when he lies 24-7?

It's unbelievable. Well, you're about to hear more lies. But before we get to those lies, I do want to just give you a statement from the former North Carolina governor, Pat McCrory, who is involved with no labels. When asked whether they plan on running a ticket in the 2024 presidential election, he said he hopes it won't be necessary. but that if by Super Tuesday we see the final two candidates as Trump and Biden, we will present a president and vice president if we see we have an opportunity to win. Now let's get back to that town hall. Mansion in that town hall continued to lie.

And he said that he had the, he lied and in his statement had the audacity to claim that he's very concerned about corruption and money in politics. You're going to love this, Jank. Let's watch. It is time to speak up and basically make sure that we're held a calvary responsible. I can assure you, both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party have benefited greatly by the dark money. And everybody's talking about dark money.

They're also talking about whether or not, specifically with money, should roofs like no labels have to be transparent about where that money's coming from? I would think the Democratic Party and Republican Party should be transparent. They got $1.7 billion in the 2020 election. 1.5 billion for the republicans. That's over $3 billion of dark money. Nobody knows anything about. Nobody knows anything about.

So I can tell you, if you want to change Citizens United, it can only happen in Washington. Both parties are going to have to pass the legislation that basically outlaw citizens United. I can speak and I can tell for no labels that they would change Citizens United overnight if you could. But that only happens in Washington. So I'll be one vote. I would vote to overturn Citizens United and make it the law of the land that you cannot have dark money in politics.

So John Huntsman, who's sitting next to him in that panel, went on to say that he's also concerned about the fact that no labels is not, you know, open about the dark money donors. But don't worry, John, don't worry. I'm here to help because, you know, just back in June, Mother Jones actually put out a report where they listed 36 wealthy donors and corporate high rollers, who wrote pretty big checks to support no labels just last year. The roster includes past and present chief executives of major companies, including Lowe's Corporation, a vast conglomerate, of course. You have Flur, an engineering and construction giant, Abri partners, a private equity firm, SalePoint, a tech firm, and Fortress Investment Group. I don't know where the money came from. I hear the American people want it. We're just going for the moderates in America. Oh, golly, geez, all of our funding from corporations.

Oh my God, look, our entire career, McCory, Huntsman, Mansion, Joe Lieberman, we've always voted 100% in favor of our corporate donors. That was just a coincidence, though, was it? What's really interesting about the language that no labels is using to sell what they're doing to the American public is that they have co-opted the populist rhetoric that we see on the ground. 100%. Yeah. So I wanted to talk a little bit more about that. So number one, he says he's against Citizens United, he gets dark money.

As Anna just showed you, the group is made up entirely of dark money. But in Manchin's career, he's patient zero of dark money. He's patient zero of corruption. No one gets bribed more than Joe Manchin. So, and then he comes out, he's so brazen. And he's, oh, yeah, I'm a yes, this is United in Dark Money. Then why don't you stop taking it? Totally.

Okay, so no, guys, the reason he is enabled and feels like he can lie to you that brazenly is because the mainstream media never, ever challenges them. And when they do, by the way, like, well, first of all, they don't. Like there was this one brief period where the New York Times is like, he actually takes some money from donors. And why did they do that? Because the other corporatist, Joe Biden, said, we are now opposed to mansion for a minute and a half, right?

And that's the only time they ever said anything at the New York. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, take all the dark money stuffed into your pockets. They say, oh, dark money, theoretically bad. But whenever they're voting on legislation, they're like, They're like, oh, that doesn't affect the legislation at all. Totally. Come, you guys are jokes. You're total and utter jokes.

Go become plumbers. Anyway, so this guy, his number one trick is to call himself a moderate. Now, for example, he votes against legislation that would bring you paid family leave. Paid family leave polls at 84%. Being opposed to it means you're in the 16%, which is the radical position. Totally, utterly radical, right? But what does mainstream media call them? And every one of you in the audience knows this.

Every single time they call him a moderate. They do, yep. They lie on his behalf, and they do it every time. So he's used to the media lying for him. So he's like, oh, apparently there are no rules. I'll tell them I'm against dark money, even though my career is built on dark money. And these dogs in the media who are just corporate marketers

will come out here and tell them, oh, I'm the moderate, and I'm against corruption. They lie on my behalf 24-7. So that's why he does this. Mansion and Cinema themselves have received campaign contributions from at least 13 billionaires who had also donated money to Trump's campaign. These guys are a joke. They're absolute liars.

And I'm sorry, but I'm sorry, Anna, I'm interrupting and I'm going on my usual rant. On a media rant? Yeah. Have at it. The New York Times, NPR, MSNBC, CNN, are you ever going to tell the truth? Okay, they're not. Okay, they're not. All right.

So as long as we know, everyone in mainstream media are gigantic liars. Moderate, moderate, moderate. Medicare for all polls us 70%. 30% is the radical position. They're like, no, man, just a moderate for opposing you. Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi are moderates for opposing a position that 70% of Americans want. And I can list you two dozen, at a minimum, other bills that are incredibly popular. And when these incredibly corrupt people go to kill it, because their pockets are stuffed.

Because their pockets are stuffed with corporate bribes. Mainstream media in New York Times, like, bribes, campaign contributions, affecting legislation, no way. They killed it because they're moderates. To be more clear, though, I think the way that they mislead the public is even more nefarious. Because they don't just print lies. What they do is they omit important context and important details. So you can't really point to, oh, look, here's a sentence in the report. that is a clear lie.

It's what they don't report. It's the context they don't provide that I think leaves the public, you know, I think misinformed or lacking the information necessary to understand why the system is working the way it is or what the motivating factors are for these politicians and the actions they take or don't take. And to go back to the point that I made about the rhetoric being co-opted by no labels, I think this next video is a perfect example of that. It has to do with the status quo, if you will.

Let's watch. I think that part of what we've done is because we're actually going to do this. And the two parties, particularly of the Democratic Party, seems most anxious, nervous about what we're doing. Because we're challenging the political status quo. Listen, I know the game, I've played the game, I've been a part of the game, I've been played by the game. And the fact of the matter of the game wants to keep the status quo, they want to keep the power regardless of this pragmatic circumstances on the ground. And we're challenging the status quo and maybe by even challenging the status quo between now and Super Tuesday,

we can have an impact on the two parties. So Lieberman obviously very much involved with no labels. We're just, you know, we're just trying to fight back against the status quo. The Democratic Party wants to protect so much. Now let me tell you who's funding this so-called war against the status quo, which of course is a lie. Let's go to Graphic 5. Lewis Bacon, billionaire CEO of hedge fund, more capital management gave $1 million each to no labels and the Republican Party after donating the maximum allowable contribution to Kirsten Cinema. Nelson Peltz, a major backer of former Republican president, Donald Trump, and a billionaire investor gave $900,000. $2,000 to two no labels political action committees and also maxed out his donations to cinema.

And I'm sure they did all of that because they're against the status quo. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And you know who else is against the status quo? Fortress investment group. They're like, you know what? We would love some radical change. We would love for populism and we would love for the American people and the average worker to get more money and for us to get less money. Oh, the system that put us at the very, very top. Oh, we hate it so much. Gee, we're against the status quo. I'm telling you, so look, last things about the media slide of hand. Anna's absolutely right. It's what they omit, and Noam Chomsky talks about this all the time.

Quick example on that is this segment on CNN, and I often talk about, where they said, oh, this university, there's a study, and it shows that Medicare for all costs $32 trillion. What they don't tell you is it was paid for by the Koch brothers, and they found out that it saves $34 trillion. So it would save you $2 trillion, but if you watch CNN, you thought it cost you $32 trillion. That's deception through omission. The other slide of hand they do with guys like Mansion is, well, Manchin is from a red state like West Virginia,

and that is why he voted against paid family leave, and he's moderate because he's a Democrat from a red state. Wait, you talked about the state as if that determines the policy position. But paid family leave is a very moderate position supported by 84% of Americans, but they do a little slight a hand. And they pretend that paid family leave is radical and Joe Manchin is moderate, not because of the policy, but because of theoretically the state he's from. You see how the lies get into the system, which then leads us to one other proof of concept here. Mansion is not the only one considering a third party race. You know, a lot of you know, there's one other person who has announced that he is going. to do a third party run, Cornel West.

Is Cornel West called moderate? Is Cornel West ever given positive praise in the media? No, Cornel West is called by everyone in the media, radical, radical. Radical, Cornell West, going to destroy our democracy, that piece of Greg Cornell was radical. But when Manches promising a third party candidacy, is the press calling him radical? Nope, they're still calling him moderate. How could he be moderate for a third party run?

And Cornell West is radical for a third party run. It's because you're not even bothering trying to be objective. Mainstream media is the initial cancer. All of the corruption, all of the money in politics goes to media to buy political ads. And then they come out and deceive the entire American people with a massively pro-corporate agenda pretending to be objective. all right we got to take a break when we come back for the second hour of the show we're going to have a good time and we're going to talk about the republicans in the senate who are genuinely

concerned about populism on their side of the aisle that more coming up don't miss it Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work, listen to ad-free, access members-only bonus content, and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at apple.com slash t-y-t. I'm your host, Shank Huger, and I'll see you soon.