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Episode Date: May 1, 2020

Nancy Pelosi is defending Joe Biden. Ana Kasparian and John Iadarola discuss on The Young Turks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This show is packed with dynamite. There are several stories in here that could cause me to explode. So buckle up, brace for impact. Let's see how it goes. So, but before we get started, I want to tell you about one thing I've been teasing for a little bit because it's so important. On May 5th, that's next Tuesday, also happens to be, I don't know if you know this, Cinco or Mayo, but also, you might not know this giving Tuesday.

We're doing Giving Ty-Y-T-T-Y-T-Tuesday. Get it? Get it? Okay. So it's me, Anna, and John. First of all, Anna and I are having the regular show at 6 o'clock Eastern, and then a three-hour spectacular, where I will reveal the five-year plan for progressives to take over the country. I also have several surprises for you guys on that day.

And by the way, if you're a donor, check your inbox because we're asking you guys to do videos that we will play on that show as well. So if you donate it at t.com slash go, make sure you look at your inbox and send us a video if you can. And if you haven't donated yet, God bless your heart, t.yt.com slash go. I'm not telling you it's there, but it is. We'll give you a lot more on Tuesday. So overall, it'll be four hours starting at 6 o'clock. Actually, because if any of you, it's probably at 5.30. All right. Anna, let's do today's show. All right. Well, we have some updates on the

sexual assault allegations against Joe Biden. In fact, BuzzFeed News got a hold of the talking points that Joe Biden's campaign has given to surrogates and supporters who are asked to comment on Tara Reid's sexual assault allegations against Biden. Those talking points include the following. Biden believes that all women have the right to be heard and to have their claims thoroughly reviewed, the talking points read, according to the copy sent by two Democratic operatives. to BuzzFeed News. In this case, a thorough review by the New York Times has led to the truth. This incident did not happen. Now, if you can recall, when we covered Stacey Abrams' defense of Joe Biden, she used this exact talking point. But she's not the only one. So did Nancy Pelosi,

so did Kirsten Gillibrand, so did Kamala Harris, all these Democratic establishment women who have come out of the woodwork to basically defend Joe Biden. Again, They're using these talking points. But there was a video that really caught my attention today, and it featured a reporter asking Nancy Pelosi about her double standard when it comes to Kavanaugh versus Joe Biden. And get a load of how she answered that question. By Biden, but they're using a comparatively different standard with the Kavanaugh, when you demanded a investigation on Justice Kavanaugh, when a very similar allegation. out on him. Let me just say, I respect your question, and I don't need a lecture or speech.

Here's the thing. I have complete respect to the whole Me Too movement. I have four daughters and one son, and there's a lot of excitement around the idea that women will be heard and will listen to. There is also due process, and the fact that Joe Biden, Biden is Joe Biden. There's been statements from his campaign, not his campaign, but his former employees who ran his offices and the rest, that there was never any record of this.

There was never any record. So I do want to clarify one thing. She says that there was never any record of this. Biden and his Senate records are sealed until two years after he retires. And so now there's a growing number of people, including the editorial board over at the Washington Post, urging him to release those records to see if there is any documentation of the complaint because Tara Reid said that she did, in fact, complain to the higher ups and there should be some record of it.

So before we get to the subs of the allegations, and I want to comment a couple of things on a couple of things that Nancy Pelosi said that it gives you a general sense of the environment in D.C. So first of all, I don't need you to lecture me or give a speech. Hmm, that's interesting. Now, when Trump does things like that, everybody goes nuts, and I think they should. How dare he attacked the press that way? But Pelosi hasn't had a hard question in 40 years. So when she gets a question she doesn't like, she's like, looks at the reporter like, how dare you? Don't you know the unwritten rules? The unwritten rules are you are to never challenge the esteemed Speaker Pelosi.

So that's why she's like shocked at having a question that was not pre-approved by Democratic leadership. And so she just dismisses her, like, I don't need you to finish your question. I'll tell you what the non-answer is. Okay, I don't see anybody attacking Nancy Pelosi over it. In fact, she partly does that to send a message. Because when Trump yells at you, your ratings go up. But when Democratic leadership yells at you, your editor calls you in and your job

is in danger. Let's keep it real. That's what happens in this country. And then she says, Biden is Biden. I don't know what that means, but that doesn't sound like a defense of Biden. That sounds like you're saying, how am I do? Biden is Biden. Every once in a while, he does this. Well, that's not a great defense, because I don't know what else Biden is Biden means. As this story develops, oh, go ahead, Jenks. Sorry, go ahead. Anna, just to finish the thought there, the only other thing that it could mean is go ask Biden, but Biden's in hiding, and he's having all these female sergeants speak out instead. And I got to tell you, having all of these women who are potentially your running mate audition

by defending you against sexual assault allegations on TV, that's pretty gross. Yeah. He has not addressed these allegations himself. Instead, women, many of whom are auditioning to be his VP pick, have gone out there and have defended him. But we're not quite done with Pelosi yet because the first time she publicly defended him was on national television. And here's what she had to say. I think that it is time for Vice President Biden to address this head on himself. Well, I have great sympathy for any women who bring forth

an allegation. I'm a big, strong supporter of the Me Too movement. I think it's been a great, made a great contribution to our country. And I do support Joe Biden. I'm satisfied with how he has responded. I know him. I was

proud to endorse him the other on Monday. Very proud to endorse him. And so I'm satisfied with that. I mean, he hasn't, to be clear, he hasn't addressed it. His campaign has addressed it, but he has not directly addressed it. Should he directly publicly address it? You know, it's a matter that he has to deal with, but I am impressed with the people who worked for him at the time saying they absolutely never heard one iota of information about this. nobody ever brought forth a claim or had anybody else tell them about such a claim.

Okay, so I want to be clear about two important details to this story, because I can easily see the record being wiped, at least in the public's view, of these two facts. Number one, when, you know, the Biden talking points tells surrogates to say that the New York Times investigation has cleared him of wrongdoing, that is. absolutely not the case. In fact, the New York Times has released a statement, a strong statement saying that their reporting has not cleared him or found him guilty. Like, it's inconclusive, basically. Also, when it comes to what Pelosi is saying here, look, he hasn't addressed it. And there is a double standard. And the way that she's handling this is it just makes

it abundantly clear that, like, rape and sexual assault allegations are used as police. tools and nothing more. And it's really gross to see this happening right now. Like she's just completely like wiping him of any wrongdoing when there hasn't actually been an investigation. And this has been treated differently from the Kavanaugh case. The Kavanaugh case was taken seriously from the very beginning. Yes, there was a sham investigation.

There's been no investigation into these claims against Biden. Yeah. So number one, let's note that. you know, I hate to say it, but we were right. The press, including CNN, and including the Washington Post now calling for Biden to address it directly, are all over the story during the general election, just like we told you. They were completely and utterly absent during the primaries when the story came out, because to them, progressives are invisible. It doesn't matter if you raise an issue, we don't care how serious it is, and we don't care how important

it is. We will not cover it because you people are progressives and we hate you and we hate Bernie Sanders. But the minute he's out of the race, we told you they'd cover it. And here they are all over the national news. Now, second point, a little bit unrelated to this, but now watching two clips of Nancy Pelosi together, she can't string together a sentence either. And you know, here's an amazing fact. Nancy Pelosi was born before India was a country. Okay, also true, oh, by the way, of Joe Biden and Donald Trump, all of our leaders, because they're backed by the media and they're back, and they've been around for a long, long time and have enough name recognition, are incredibly old.

They've held on the power jealously with great greed, and they will not let it go. And they're all falling apart at this seams right in front of our eyes. Any time we point out something that's true, they go ballistic over it, and then later admit that it's true. So Pelosi can't put together a sentence either. And then finally, her defense was curious when she's like, hey, you know, I really believe in the Me Too movement and I got four daughters. You're a woman. You don't have to clarify that you're in favor of the Me Too movement. It makes me think, wait, are you not in favor of the Me Too movement? Like, it's like if I randomly just jumped out and was like, look, man, don't get me wrong. I don't want

discrimination against Turks. I'm against it. Of course, I'm Turkish American. Why the hell would I want discrimination against Turks? Doesn't make any sense. It leads me to think, like, the way that she framed it, she's like, hey, you know, got to get along. And so folks in power sometimes do that. But hey, look, I got daughters. I got daughters. So I'm, I'm in favor of Me Too movement. What a weird way of funny. It's a way of having your cake and eating it too, right? Because The Me Too movement has been used as a political tool, I believe, by the Democratic Party. It's been used by the Republican Party. It's just, it's turned into, unfortunately, something that's been co-opted for dishonest actors for political gain, right?

So for me, this story is not about Bernie Sanders. Like, like, I know, some of the people watching this right now, they're going to come at me on Twitter, like, oh, you're so bitter about Bernie. I'm not bitter about Bernie. Like, that's over, okay? I totally understand that the DNC would never, in a million years, replace Biden with Bernie. I'm not delusional. But one thing that I want you guys to understand is now we have Biden an incredibly flawed candidate, even without the sexual assault allegations, he was already an incredibly flawed candidate,

you know, for all the different reasons that we've explained on this show over several months. But like the line of defense, you're right, Jank, is so incredibly thin, right? Like, she wants to be able to say, like, I love the Me Too movement because I might want to keep that movement in my back pocket when I want to go snipe a candidate I don't like, usually someone on the left more than anything. But she lied in that interview, too. Biden's staffers, Senate staffers who Tara Reid went to and complained to did not say that it did not happen.

They said they do not recall it happening, right? And I think that that's an important distinction because that's typically what people say when they don't want to admit guilt, right? But they also don't want to perjure themselves in any way. You know, maybe they're just covering their tracks and saying, I do not recall. One person said, I do not recall, and I would have remembered if this happened, right? But every single person said, I don't remember anything like this happening. We should see his Senate records.

I mean, he's running for president. This isn't a joke. It isn't a joke. And I don't care if he's a Democrat. I don't care what kind of threat Donald Trump is. We need to know the truth about the candidate. who are running. And for everyone who wants me to say this, I will say it. I'll say it a million times if you want me to. Donald Trump has more sexual assault allegations against him. But

now we're put in a position to do like this weird like weighing contest. Like, oh, who's more of a sexual predator? I'm not interested in engaging in that conversation. I would rather have a leader in this country who doesn't have serious and credible sexual assault allegations against them. So for those of you who haven't heard any of this, a very quick recap is that Terry now has four people corroborating her story that she said to them that she was sexually harassed by Joe Biden back in the early 1990s. She said it to them back then, four different people.

That is a lot of folks. If it was against anyone else, every Democrat in the country would have already believed those corroborating witnesses. And it looks like her mom called in to CNN to Larry King Live and back in the early 1990s and talked about how her daughter, you know, or someone she knows was sexually or harass, let's put it that way. It was a little bit vaguer by an important senator. Let me clarify that because her mother called in and said that her daughter had a negative experience with a senator and wanted advice on what her daughter can do. Yes, to be clear, because they say, well, look, her mom calling in at the same exact time

as the four other corroborating witnesses saying negative experience, maybe she twisted her ankle. We don't know, we don't know, okay, all right, maybe, maybe you decide what you want with that negative experience with the senator means. Her mom has since then passed away. And so, look, it's impossible for us to know what happened there, but there are things that you can check as we've done with every other story. So one last thing about that is that even the New York Times corroborated that she used to

be in charge of the intern program and was abruptly taken off the intern program. Okay. So again, none of these by themselves are conclusive. And yes, I'm going to vote against Donald Trump. So you know what you are if you are going to vote against Donald Trump, but you actually talk about a legitimate allegation against his opponent? It's called principled. The rest of the Democratic Party might want to look into it.

Well, if you are principled, you're probably going to face quite a bit of backlash, especially if you're on a cable news channel that's just nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party. So let's talk about that a little bit. Fire Chris Hayes was trending on social media today because he had the audacity to do his job and talk about the very real incredible sexual assault allegations. against Joe Biden. Now, he had a reporter on from New York Magazine who had actually penned an op-ed about how Biden needs to address Tara Reid's accusations directly. And that led to an insane amount of backlash. So first, I want to show you what got people so upset. Here's one of the

clips featuring Chris Hayes talking about the Tara Reid story. There was also a new development story. And that is a terror reads. former neighbor at the time, went on the record with her name telling Business Insider that in 1995 or 1996, a few years after this, that Reed told her she had been assaulted by Biden. NBC News reached out to Reid's neighbor, who later confirmed by text message to the story. This on the record reporting from a neighbor, roughly contemporaneous relaying of the story, has rightly occasioned a new round of coverage and scrutiny, while also creating some serious tension within the progressive coalition.

So that was the first part of his segment. And then later he brought on someone from New York Magazine to share her thoughts. But, Jake, before we get to that clip, was there anything offensive there? I mean, Chris Hayes is not a Democratic operative. He's not a surrogate, as far as I know, for Joe Biden. He's supposed to be doing journalism for a news channel. Yeah. So everyone who wrote hashtag fire Chris Hayes is very similar to Donald Trump.

They think that the press should be doing propaganda and not the news. And they're upset that MSNBC for a couple of minutes did not do wall-to-wall propaganda for the Democratic candidate. And they're like, how dare you? Did news break out at a news station? Unacceptable. No, you should fire that so-called journalist right away and make sure you're replacing with a hack who will never, ever dare to disagree with Democratic leadership and the Democratic

candidate. So if you're a part of that fire Chris Hayes thing on Twitter, man, that's so sad. I mean, if you're an apparatchik for the Democratic Party, I get it, you get paid to be that kind of a fill in the adjective, right? But if you're one of the suckers that goes along with that, and you're like, really like, I don't want any news. I just want propaganda. Oh, my God.

You're just like Donald Trump, but from the other side. That's who you are. Live with it. Well, some of those people we're going to talk about now. So I just want to give you some examples of the arguments they were making on Twitter using this hashtag. One person writes, just want to put this out there. I unfollowed Chris Hayes.

And I'd love to see everyone else unfollow that MFRA as well. So this person has a pretty, you know, I wouldn't say big, but has a following on Twitter. And then there's one other person saying, oh, this is the Palmer report. Chris Hayes isn't facing backlash for talking about the Biden allegation. He's facing backlash because he falsely characterized the Biden allegation as credible and corroborated when the evidence overwhelmingly says the opposite. That's fascinating. So I would like to see that overwhelming evidence saying the opposite because there has been

corroborating evidence. Corroborating evidence in the form of Tara Reid's next door neighbor from the 90s sharing that Tara Reid spoke to her in a detailed way about what happened between Tara Reid and Biden, the sexual assault, not just the sexual harassment, the sexual assault, that is considered corroborating evidence. If this was a criminal trial, that neighbor would be brought to testify to, you know, talk about what Tara Reid told her at that time. And by the way, this neighbor came forward on her own. She actually completely lost touch with Tara Reid in the early 2000s. So is that not corroborating evidence? I don't know. I mean, it seems like it is to me. And he has failed. Palmer report has failed to provide any actual evidence

contrary to what Tara Reid has said. If we had four corroborating witnesses in Kavanaugh, and we had Christine Blasey Ford's mom calling into a television station at the time saying about how she suffered a negative experience with this person, et cetera, if we had Christine Blasey Ford being taken off an assignment, She didn't obviously work with Kavanaugh's is obviously a different fact pattern. But if we had any of this, I guarantee you Palmer report and everybody else out there in the Democratic establishment or the really, really sad people who just got brainwashed by the Democratic establishment or wanted desperately be in the Democratic establishment, if all those people

would have said, yeah, of course, Kavanaugh is guilty, guilty, guilty. And by the way, they probably would have been right. But unlike us, they have no principles at all. So they say, well, if it's in the case of a Republican, then we believe the woman, and we don't want to even hear from the Republican. And progressives, even worse, even worse, did somebody else say something that could be connected to a progressive that said eliminated, eliminated? I don't even want to hear it, right?

But you have this kind of corroboration for establishment Democrat? No, no, I don't see any evidence. I don't see it. Okay, that's how they are, men. I don't know who Palmer report is. I don't know who reports on. But Palmer, whoever you are, if you're not getting paid by the Democratic Party, man, I feel so sad for you. At least get paid for it. No, and it's even worse than that because, like, wanting to silence journalists from doing their jobs is outrageous. That is outrageous, right? Trying to cover up sexual assault allegations

against your preferred political candidate is one thing, right? I've come to understand how politics works and how media is used as a tool to prop up certain candidates. But like to go after the messenger, to go after a reporter who actually is being principled and is reporting on this fairly, by the way, is outrageous. And I commend Chris Hayes for doing it because we both know what MSNBC is like. We know how MSNBC tried to censor you, Jank, in the past. And in this case, if they do end up firing Chris Hayes for doing his job appropriately,

MSNBC should not have any credibility at all. That means that they will stomp on any type of investigative reporting if it doesn't fit their political narrative. That's it. Chris is just about the only guy left on the channel that has any credibility. And if they, I mean, if they give into this, that would be so beyond outrageous that I couldn't believe it. Like, but anyway, so look, in terms of the actual allegations, it is so hard to tell what's true

or non-true many years later, decades later, in any of these cases. So do I believe Christine Blasey Ford? Yes. So when I look at Tara Reid, man, that's a lot of corroborating witnesses. It's so hard to know. It's so hard to know. And we've given you all the context in so many videos here. Is there another point of view?

Of course there is. So she first reported a different kind of touching, and then she gave the most serious allegations very late in the process. And we can go on with other pieces of evidence, and we have a great length. So it's not an open and shut case. But if you say that a journalist shouldn't even talk about it, you're just an authority. authoritarian and you think you're on the left wing, but you're not, and you want to shut down any media that disagrees with you or even brings up a question that you don't like.

And that's really sad. And if you think you're on the left, you're not. When we come back from the break, we're going to talk about Donald Trump and his feuding with people in his own campaign. And then later in the show, we'll talk about how New York State spent millions of dollars on ventilators that they never even got. We'll be right back. We need to talk about a relatively new show

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Thank you for looking forward to it. And I'll be talking about that on May 5th. We're basically going to do four hours straight starting at 6 o'clock Eastern. And in the second hour, I'm going to explain how progressives are going to take over the country. It's a five-year plan for being realistic, but I think you're going to love it. Meg writes in, would a hero donate to t-y-t.com slash go? I'm not saying a hero would, but if a hero did, would they talk about it?

I don't know. I'm just saying. Jake, you got that hashtag trending, man. What a hero. Hashtag, what a hero. All right, Meg, I love you. Yes, that's exactly what a hero would do. And then they'd write a comment just like the one you wrote.

Kiera says, but they were so quick to throw Al Franken under the bus. I can get into the distinction between Franken and Biden. But yes, they did. And it was on a lot less evidence, on a lot less serious charge than Biden. That's just a fact. That's just nothing but a fact. Progressive Ted's still unknown if Biden likes beer. Progressive Todd, Baker-Bergate said, too bad the reported and submitted question,

a.k.a. Elector de Pelosi in writing, so she could dramatically rip it in half while modeling her Gucci-Vitton, Chanel Dior face mask. I did notice that face mask looking good. Ryan L. Thank you for the comment. Gary Parris, thank you as well on YouTube Super Chat. I'm trying to get through this as quickly as I can. Ron Howell says on YouTube Super Chat. Biden is Biden is like, boys will be boys. We should ignore anything Biden did or does because he is the anointed one. And there's so many great ones here. Last one, Stephen in real life says, or Steve in real life says, I realize Pelosi is on our

side in a technical sense, but listening to her speak over the last few months has become nearly as frustrating as listening to Trump. She's super privileged. She works hard to defend that privilege, and she doesn't care who gets hurt. Well, it looks like you're paying attention. All right, I was on Twitter, hashtag TYT live to tweet to us in the middle of the show. Would you try to get to your comments? And of course, t.yt.com slash go to support the show like Magid.

All right, Anna, what's next? Donald Trump is feuding with his campaign manager, which calls for another edition of As the White House turns. So, made some very big mistakes. I asked for his resignation. I'm disappointed in the attorney general. So CNN's reporting that Donald Trump is very much concerned about his approval rating.

It has been dipping thanks to his response to coronavirus. I'm guessing, suggesting that ingest, Bleach didn't really work out so well for him. And instead of taking responsibility for how he's mishandled things, he decided to lash out on his campaign manager, Brad Parscale. Now, I'm not someone who really likes or respects Parscale, so I'm amused by this story. But according to Jeremy Diamond over at CNN, things got a little heated at one point. Let's take a look at what he had to say.

Trump has grown increasingly unnerved in the last week about his reelection prospects. Aides have presented him up with data showing that his poll numbers are sliding in some of those key battleground states and that he could be headed for defeat against former Vice President Joe Biden if things continue the way that they are. Amid all of that, Jake, the stress of that information affecting the president, it seems, and he let it out in an angry outburst with Brad Parscale, the president's campaign manager. I'm told that the president was huddling with some of his aides on Friday at the White House Friday evening and that Brad Parscale was on the phone.

The president berated him, I'm told, for his own slide. poll numbers, as well as for, and even threatened to sue Parscale. Now, it's not clear exactly how serious the president was about that threat. So he threatened to sue his campaign manager over his, like, poll numbers in battleground states because it's Parscale's fault and how, like, what, what, like, law are you going to use or cite in order to, like, the guy's crazy, the guy's crazy. And like, Parscale's not a good guy, so I don't really care. But how do you sign on to work for someone like Donald Trump, who's unhinged, has no loyalty

for anyone or toward anyone? And by the way, at one point, Trump was asked about those poll numbers. And he's like, I don't believe the polls. I don't believe the polls. I'm doing great. Parscale and other people who work on the campaign also told Trump that they think that maybe it's not a good idea to do these daily press briefings. And Trump did not like that.

Yeah. So, look, this is great news, not just for Democrats, but for the country and the planet, because that means Trump is not going to listen to anything that might help him. In order to run a campaign effectively, you have to see when your numbers dip, when they rise, you have to be able to adjust, especially on the level that he's at, because for smaller campaigns, it's very, very hard to move the numbers. But when it's a presidential campaign, there's so much media, that the numbers move fairly easily and often. And it allows you a lot of time and ability to adjust if you actually pay attention. But Trump is incapable of doing that.

I mean, all the Democrats have to do is, had to do was nominate a shoe, and the shoe would win. In fact, it would be a shoe in, if you will. All we needed was net zero. No, just someone who can like put a sentence together and isn't dealing with the section. assault allegation. That's all we need. Like, these moderate Democrats think that we're trying to like replace Biden with Bernie Sanders. Like, yeah, that's a dream, but I know that's not going to happen. Just replace him with someone who functions. That's it. Yeah. We're just looking for a net zero. That's all we're looking for because Trump

isn't a world of trouble. Okay. Now, what, first of all, yelling at your campaign manager, Apparently, normal. I still find it insane, but apparently that's a thing that candidates do all the time. Okay, whatever. Number two, threatening to sue your campaign manager mental. I don't even know what that means. Okay, that's, okay, fine. Great, do it now.

That'd be amazing if you sued your own campaign manager as the campaign is starting. But most importantly, him ignoring the polls and saying he doesn't believe in polls, And living in that alternate reality is great news because the polls aren't lying. And another excuse he had was, no, no, if it is true, my poll numbers are going down because the country isn't getting enough of me because I'm not doing the rallies. If they saw me more, my numbers would go up. Okay. That's not what's happening at all.

The more they see of you in these press conferences, the more they realize your beaux are the clown. So what Parscale made a mistake, and so to Ronald McDonald, who's the head of the RNC, fine, Ronald McDaniel. They went in and talked to him like he was an adult. And they said, oh, your poll numbers are down. And it's obviously because you told people

to drink Clorox. And so don't do that because we don't want to lose the election. And he's like, I'm thinking about firing you and suing you for saying things that are true, when obviously I'm like the greatest person ever lived. And they're not seeing me enough. That's the real problem. I can't believe you didn't realize that Ronald McDonald. And where's the burglar anyway? Or a hand burglar. Okay. Okay, I got to give you some more of what people close to Trump have told CNN. So in one

quote, a Republican close to the White House said, he's pissed because he knows he messed up in those briefings, right? So, look, I think that Trump plays this game where he knows, right? Like, he knows, but he's mad and he's angry at himself. And the only thing he knows how to do is rather than like maybe pivot and change his behavior, he just lashes out at people around him who are trying to help him. Which is like, again, I know I make this point a lot and I'm sorry for being repetitive, but how do you sign on to work for that guy? How, how, how? Like, it sounds like the worst job in the world. Like, even if I were some crazy power hungry person, which I'm clearly not, but if I were, right,

I still wouldn't work for him because it's the most counterproductive thing to do for a power-driven person. Eventually, he's going to snipe you and it's over. Your career's over. You're just in a mosh. No, I hear you, Anna, but in this case, Parscale's made an unbelievable amount of money. And remember we did that story about his Ferraris or whatever car, sports car he has, and what is it? His firm is charged $50 million or something. Look, they're all having a feast at the expense

of Republican donors. If you're a giant company giving money to Republicans, it makes sense. They're going to give you billions and trillions dollars in return. So buying off Parscale and financing his Ferraris and apartments makes sense. If you're a regular person in America and you're giving money to the Trump campaign? It's going towards Trump properties. It's going to Parscale's Ferraris. It's going to that type of stuff. So Parscale, I get it.

He's like, oh, yeah, okay, yell at me. You're going to sue me. Later, you're going to blame me for the election. You lose. Whatever, dude. I already got the three apartments. I already took home the money. And every day he's staying home more money is another day that he thinks is a win.

Okay, I got to give you one more quote from Trump. from Trump. He said, I believe the people of this country are smart. And I don't think that they will put a man in who's incompetent, which he's obviously. He's referencing Joe Biden. No, you guys, like, he has no self-awareness. He really genuinely thinks he's the smartest person on the planet. He thinks he's kind of a smart person. Yeah. I'm like a smart person. I'm a very stable genius. I'm actually known for two things in life. What is being smart person, like a smart person? And the other is for being mentally stable. Like you think I'm making that up, like I did with a hamburger? No, he actually said those things. Look, in the old days, in the beginning

of Trump's term, we used to kid around and we had a poll who's dumb or Trump or Bush, because you forget how stupid Bush was. No, not close, because Bush had enough sense. to know he was stupid. Trump has no idea. Like, he's like, you know, I heard, you know, you take disinfectant and you put it in the lungs.

In one minute, it's gone. Yeah, maybe the lungs gone in a minute. It's gone. Wipes out coronavirus. They're like, Mr. President, you're an idiot. Underway, that's the smartest thing I ever said.

You're dumb for not realizing how smart I am. No, no. It's just like, guys, no strategy. Nothing. Nothing. The guy's the dumbest guy you've ever met.

Look, I don't know why I have this weird quasi-respect for Parscale. It's kind of a funny thing to say. No. No, no, no, because the other Republicans, this is a total BS theory, very outside speculation. The other Republicans, to me, they look like, like, oh, Mr. Trump, of course, sir, of course, Glorox injected in the nose. It's a great idea. Oh, my God, yes, sir, right?

Parscale has that look at his face like, I know I'm robbing you. I'm robbing you. And so I feel like he understands the game a little bit better than the rest. This dude used to be like some, like nobody in the middle of Texas at like fiddling around fixing his own computer. Next to you know Trump, he's out of nowhere. And now he's the campaign manager. And every day he's got to be thinking this is a miracle.

How did I get robbed people of all this money? I'm going to keep it going for as long as I can. But of course this guy's a clown. I don't know how Parscale didn't get cast for Lord of the Ring. because they would have saved a lot of money on makeup. Like, just cast that guy, he's good. You know, look at that face on face alone. All right, we got to take a break.

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I thank you, Omega. They are. They are. I will sign on on that. And Old Turk writes in, would a hero update their credit card info so that they can continue to support TYT? Yes, Old Turk. That's exactly what a hero would do. Thank you guys. We appreciated tyt.com slash go for our audience fundraising drive that's keeping us sustainable and healthy and strong. Thank you guys. Anna. All right. Well, Ben Shapiro is one of those conservatives you could turn to if you're looking for fearmongering about death panels when it comes to single-payer health care or the Affordable Care Act. But now with the coronavirus in full force and with all these stay-at-home orders, all of a sudden, Ben Shapiro kind of interested

in serving on one of those death panels. Take a look. I want to say the obvious truth, which is that we're all making actuarial deductions about what are the costs in terms of how many human lives, how many years of life? Because that is an actual issue in actuarial tables, right? If somebody who is 81 dies of COVID-19, that That is not the same thing as somebody who is 30 dying of COVID-19. I mean, if this were killing children, everyone would be for lockdown forever. That's the reality, right? If a bunch of five-year-olds were dying with COVID-19 and people were saying, get back to work,

everybody would be like, nope, I'm not letting my five-year-old die. If grandma dies in a nursing home at age 81, that's tragic and it's terrible. Also, the life expectancy in the United States is 80. So that is not the same thing. In moral terms, you want to save every life you can. At the same time, to pretend that it is of the same calculation. the age of the person, no public policy acts like that. Not a single public policy in American life acts like that. So, okay, now we're doing like human value judgments, right? So 81 year olds,

not as valuable as kids. Are 81 year olds as valuable as zygotes? Are, I mean, like, are we having this discussion right now? And by the way, to further contextualize where this conversation came from, they're discussing opening the state back up, you know, he's in California, getting people back out there to work. And it's like, yeah, I mean, you know, I'm 81 year olds. I mean, yeah, it would be tragic. And we want to be moral here. But like, it's not like my five year old's going to die or anything. It's just amazing. I wonder how his grandparents feel about that if they're still alive. Or his parents, I don't know. Or is parents? How old are Because my dad's 82 years old, and I'm going to protect his life under any and all circumstances.

And so, I don't know, maybe Ben has parents he doesn't care about. He doesn't give me a damn about. He's like, well, if they die, I don't really care. You know what, Ben, life doesn't care about your feelings, okay? Yeah, yeah, that's right. You know, killing people doesn't care about your feelings. Well, I guess that's true. So he's saying if your parents, your grandparents die, he don't really care. I don't know if he's true for his. Again, I don't know his family situation. So look, these are the, if a Democrat in defending the Affordable Care Act has said, look, it's true. When the government runs the programs, more old people will die. Now, they wouldn't say that

because that's not true. It's not at all applicable to Affordable Care Act. But if it was true, and they had said it, Ben Shapiro would have lost his mind. Oh my God, they're going to let people I'm pro-life. I'm pro-life. How could they do this? And in fact, they did say it. They called a death panels. Well, there were no death panels. When it wasn't even true. Now, here they are brazenly saying, so what if an 81-year-old died? You just heard it. You just saw the video with your own eyes. Because if I described it to you, you wouldn't believe me. But they're saying, yeah, I mean, I don't, again, I don't know Ben's elders, but he actually has kids. He's like, Oh, that would affect me.

My kids would affect me. No, then I would stay home for a long time. But if your dad's gonna die or your mom's gonna die, I don't care about that at all. Let's go back out there. Amazing. And it's always the people who can do their jobs out of the safety in their own homes,

urging people to get back to work. And I think that that should say something, right? So we're in a safe place. Jank and I can do our jobs at home, but we fully understand the risk that people put themselves in, the risks people put their families in when they go out there and they work, you know, the first responders, the essential workers, all of those people are risking their lives. And by the way, in many cases, aren't being provided the safety

gear they need in order to prevent contracting this virus, aren't getting paid hazard pay, which they absolutely should get paid on top of increased wages. But like the very people on like CNBC or Fox News who get to do like all of their work and earn all of their money out of the safety of their own homes, telling other people to put their lives at risk just so I don't know, I don't know what their point is. Oftentimes it's because they want their, you know, stock portfolios to keep going up. But like, don't trust them. Just don't trust them because they're not actually thinking about you. They don't actually care about you. If they really believe the things that they were saying, then they would go out there. They

They would go, you know, help out as an essential worker, but they're not because it's not about protecting lives. It's about protecting whatever other incentive they have. It's just disgusting. All right. It's a great point. Yeah. Go ahead.

Yeah, it's a great point because he doesn't work at an assembly line. He works from home. So it's not going to affect him at all. He's not saying I should go back out there. He's saying you should go back out there. You should go work in a meat packing plant and endanger your life. So it's just a simple thing here. And I know that they were, he was talking to Dave Rubin, so the dial of ideas had been turned

to hot. But if you've got those ideas, I need you to back them up. And so anyone who says we should go out there before government and the scientists and the doctors say we should no problem. You first. Go work at an Amazon warehouse filled with hundreds of other people in that enclosed space for just one day, then I'll believe you meet it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And, you know, we talked about this story yesterday, but there will be

some walkouts tomorrow because workers are just demanding the minimum to keep themselves safe. Okay, these are Amazon workers, Instacart workers, FedEx employees. They just want the safety gear necessary to keep themselves safe in the middle of this pandemic. And they want hazard pay, which, I mean, it shouldn't, it's non-negotiable, guys. It's non-negotiable. How How are we gonna refer to them as essential workers and treat them like trash? That's what's happening right now. And so, you know, people like Ben Shapiro will moralize all day long about the importance of human life.

And he'll go after people who have anything negative to say about the anti-abortion movement. But what is he doing right now? I mean, he's essentially engaging in a death panel with Dave Rubin, you know, making judgments about what life is more valuable than other lives. And it's unacceptable and it's ridiculous. And the fact that anyone takes that guy seriously and thinks that he's logical, rational, and consistent, needs to just pay closer attention to what he's saying. He's not consistent at all.

Yeah, so it's not a thing that's new for him. Do you think that he values Palestinian lives as much as he values Israeli lives or American lives? If you've ever read anything he's ever said or written, you know, that's nowhere in near true. He doesn't value Palestinian lives at all. Couldn't care less about him. Says, oh, they all live in the sewer and blow up things as the Israeli government blows them up. But in terms of the so-called pro-life position, I guess he's saying zygotes are super important, and three days in, they're more valuable than a person who's actually alive if they're older.

So zygotes now officially more humans than actual humans who are senior citizens. So if that's your principal pro-life position Republicans, have added hoss. By the way, most of your voters are older. Good luck. So I want to let the audience know a little bit about our postgame today because we do have a giant postgame show for you, including some devastating video featuring armed protesters showing up to Michigan capital to protest the possible extension of stay-at-home orders. We're also going to discuss some of the outcomes of these more local races.

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