The Young Turks - TYT Extended Clip - December 2nd, 2019

Episode Date: December 3, 2019

The White House confirmed they would not be participating in the House's impeachment proceedings. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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doing. Welcome back, everybody. I hope you had a happy thanks to me. It is in fact the Young Turks. It is in fact Jake Eugen and Anna Kasparian with you guys. I hope you guys got a chance to check out our Thanksgiving specials. So we did some shows for you guys. That's on t.t.com on Thursday and Friday. We also had an extra special for the members, which I watched. It was a tearjerker. It was really good. Yeah. Like shout out to Hank Thompson because that was some heavy lifting on the editing side of things, lots of creativity, but it was like, yeah, I did actually cry. You know, I cried when Alex started talking about her husband and how he's like her best

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All right, speaking of panic, we have a Republican leaving Congress and admitting he's guilty. What is this? That's later in the program. We got, of course, as always election news and Trump news. So Anna, take it away. All right. The White House continues to complain about the so-called unfair process of the impeachment investigation. They feel that they've been left out of the hearings, that they haven't given, they haven't

been given the proper opportunity to defend themselves. However, in yet another opportunity to defend themselves, the Trump administration has said that they will not participate in the House Judiciary Committee's hearing on the impeachment this week. Now it would be very helpful for Trump to participate in this, or at least have his lawyers participate, but he explains why he refuses to do so in this next clip. Take a look. Why don't you stand one of your lawyers to represent your point of view before the House impeachment

inquiry? Because the whole thing is a hope. Everybody knows it. All you have to do is look at the words of the Ukrainian president that he just issued. And you know it's a hoax. It's an absolute disgrace what they're doing to our country. So he claims it's a hoax. His counsel, Pat Cipleone, also claims that this is all a hoax. Of course, we've all now heard from numerous Trump administration officials who have said that that he did withhold that military funding to Ukraine in order to pressure the Ukrainian government to dig up dirt on his political rival, Joe Biden.

I mean, these are not progressives, these are not lefties, these are people in some cases who donated a lot of money to Donald Trump. And then later in this impeachment investigation testified against him because the truth is the truth and it's gonna come out sooner or later. So Gordon Sondland was the one who turned on Trump eventually. So, Cenk, jump in. Yeah, so first of all, of course the Ukrainian president didn't say that. He had an interview with a number of European outlets where he said, look, of course it wasn't a quid pro quo because I wouldn't do that.

And, you know, I wouldn't want to beg on behalf of Ukraine. He said, on the other hand, it is not good to hold up our aid and to go around calling us corrupt because that reduces investment in our country. and we needed that aid to protect ourselves from Russia. In other words, he's saying, look, I'm not, I'm telling you right now, I desperately need America. So I can't tell you right now while Trump is in office that it was a quid pro quo. But I need that aid. I needed it before. I need it for the next time around.

So I'm being as clear as I could possibly be that it was not a good thing to hold up our aid. So Trump's characterization was as well, he said, of course, totally and utterly wrong as usual. And look, I'm now exhausted at this point dealing with Republican lies. And normally I have fun with it. And, you know, we spike them on a daily basis. This is stupid. This is not true, et cetera. But this impeachment is both Trump and the entire Republican Party, wall-to-wall lie.

Take everything you see and turn it upside down. So him saying like, they're not giving me a fair shot. You can go. You, right there, you're the president. you say they're not being fair to you, you can go testify. Now you say, hey, look, I don't want to testify because I'm a pathological liar and they'll get me on a thousand things I say wrong. Our point is exactly. Secondly, your lawyers can go.

You've got all of the Republican congressmen that are in the hearings, plus your lawyers, plus you if you want. He says, no, I'm not going to send, I'm not going to go and I'm not going to send my lawyers either. Well, then you're going to have to drink a tall glass of shut up juice, because this is over the time. top fair to you, but nonetheless, what do they come out with their talking point is? It's so unfair to us. It's so unfair to us. It's a hoax. I know, but look, the frustrating part of this story is not that Republicans are lying in an effort to cover up for Trump or make excuses for Trump or defend Trump. The frustrating part is no one ever goes back to the heart of the story, which is

Republican lawmakers who went directly to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and said, we don't know what to do, we can't defend Donald Trump on the substance, so how do we defend him? And Mitch McConnell said, focus on the process. And that's what they've done, and they're going to keep doing it. They're going to keep pretending as if this is some sort of unfair process, even though there's absolutely no indication that it's unfair. And the Trump administration has been asked to participate in this over and over again. So there was a five-page letter sent to Adam Schiff by Pat Sipleone. That's the White House Council. And he wrote the We cannot fairly be expected to participate in a hearing while the witnesses are yet

to be named and while it remains unclear whether the judiciary committee will afford the president a fair process through additional hearings. Okay, let me break that down, guys. So they do have a fair process through these hearings, he's like, but if there are going to be additional hearings that no one knows about, we don't know if you're gonna, what process you're gonna apply to unknown hearings. Well, I guess you could use that excuse to get out of any hearing ever because there might later be other hearings and you don't know the process to hearings that have not been named.

What a terrible, terrible excuse. And all the witnesses have been named. That's not how hearings work. So sometimes witnesses are called and some of them are named and then later other witnesses are called and sometimes based on the testimony given. So you couldn't possibly name every single witness. By the way, the Republicans might be able to call some witnesses. And they're gonna have to see which witnesses are allowed and not allowed.

So by definition, you can't have all the witnesses right now. He knows that. But the point isn't to be legally correct. The point is just to have a fig leaf for Trump supporters to go, oh yeah, yeah, that's right. We're the victims. It's been totally unfair. It's, yeah, it's beyond frustrating. But one other thing is, look, this House Judiciary Committee hearing is incredibly important, right?

So if Trump had any interest in really defending himself, he would want to be part of it. He would want at least his lawyers to be there. Because the whole purpose of it is to look at the evidence at hand and determine whether or not there is enough evidence to draft the articles of impeachment. And so you would want to have a voice in that process. If you're truly innocent and you truly want to defend yourself, that's what this hearing is all about. And he's refusing to participate because he knows he's guilty.

And then he pretends as though he cares about the NATO summit that's happening this week. Remember, Trump notoriously despises NATO, thinks it's nonsense, and goes after our NATO allies all the time. But here he is claiming that, you know, the NATO summit this week is incredibly important. He can't be distracted by the impeachment investigation. The Democrats, the radical left Democrats, the do nothing Democrats, decided when I'm going to NATO, this was set up a year ago, that when I'm going to NATO, that was the exact time This is one of the most important journeys that we make as president.

And for them to be doing this and saying this and putting an impeachment on the table, which is a hope to start off with. So there you go. He's pretending like, oh, you don't have to be there. White House counsel can be there. White House counsel can defend you. I mean, that's usually what would happen anyway. But he just doesn't want to take part in this.

They want to pretend as though this is a illegitimate process, illegitimate process. So in the Judiciary Committee, they're trying to determine, as Anna was alluding to, what are the different articles of impeachment? Do we have enough evidence for showing that not only that things happen, but that they were a high crime or misdemeanor, or perhaps another violation of the Constitution? So there is no earthly reason why you wouldn't send your lawyer there. If I was charged of things I didn't do and we're going to determine what the charges are, would I send my lawyer? Of course, everybody would send their lawyer unless they know they have no legal grounds to stand on and they have no factual grounds to stand on. So the only thing they're going to hang their hat on is not fair, not fair, which is what Donald Trump probably cried to his daddy a thousand times as his daddy spanked him after giving him another bailout after another bankruptcy, right? So and Trump's back to that.

Like Anna pointed, yeah, you're really worried about NATO. You've been trying to just basically dismember NATO from the day that you got in thanks to your orders from your boss, Vladimir Putin. So normally when you go to Europe, those are really important because usually those are meetings that are not just NATO but are a larger group that include Putin, and that's where you get your orders, and that's where you rip up the transcripts of your dialogue with Putin or don't allow American translators. That is the most important thing you do, whether you get your orders from your boss normally

when you go over to Europe. But in this case, this is just NATO, the people you don't like, i.e. are allies. So this whole thing of like, oh my God, I'm busy working. Oh, please. You know what he did over the weekend, this is one of my favorite things. So somebody, a reporter predicted that he spent all Thanksgiving tweeting. Now as it turned out, he went to go see the troops in Afghanistan. Great, I'm glad he did that, that's a good move politically, but it's a good thing to do overall, okay?

So then Don Trump Jr. tweets out, ha ha, see, dad didn't tweet. on Thanksgiving, you were so wrong, fake news. And before Thanksgiving's up, Donnie, because he's just too stupid and can't stand it, tweeted about, ha ha, I didn't tweet, oh God, there's no end to a stupidity. That's the president, right? So you're too busy, please, nobody believes that. Not a single person in America or the world believes that. What are you going to do?

You're going to tweet over there about some, oh, hoax, switch on bu. So, guilty, guilty, guilty, it's beyond any reasonable doubt. And so the fact that they're not even showing up shows you, they know they have absolutely no case. Exactly. And it is funny because just today, House Republicans released a report, a 123-page report defending Donald Trump, claiming that the Democrats have absolutely no evidence indicating that Donald Trump is guilty of high crimes or misdemeanors, including bribery and extortion. Even though there are text message exchanges,

even though there are members of Trump's own administration testifying against him, you have members of the intelligence community, you have various ambassadors chiming in on this and sharing their perspective and their evidence on it, there is an abundance of evidence against Donald Trump. He is unable to defend himself. Republicans are really unable to defend him when it comes to the substance. They just focus on how unfair the process supposedly is, and that's it, that's all it is. Well, one last thing, Fox and France this morning is back to, well, if you thought the last

set of hearings are boring, these are going to be even more boring. His lawyers are talking about what's legal and not legal, snooze fast. What do you do with guys like this? So if your best argument is you might be right and the president we support is a criminal, on the other hand, the way you're presenting evidence against him is boring, is that. And on the other hand, so I feel like every day we come on the show, we have a debate with people who keep telling us that the grass is not green, it's purple. And we have to just like genuinely go, okay, here's a science behind why grass is green

and not purple. And every day they come out and they're like, no, the grass is being so unfair to us. You know, and you're being unfair by pointing out science. So we will not send our own scientists, but we demand that you call it purple, or at least even. So that's just not how it works. He's wrong in every way, shape and form. Look, on one hand, I want him to go into more charges against them, obstruction of justice

on the Russia case, the campaign finance violations on the hush money. On the other hand, I just want to wrap it up because I'm so sick of the Republican lies that we have to knock down every single day that have 0% merit. This is not a conversation between rational actors anymore. They are illegitimate and purposely lying actors. And it's not just Trump, it is now the entire Republican Party. They own it. They enable criminality, that's what they do.

Yeah, it's a criminal supporting enterprise, the National Republican Party. No answers or buts about it. Well, what is a strategy that Donald Trump is using to defend himself? This is fascinating because it involves the Clintons. So Donald Trump is modeling himself after Bill Clinton's. Clinton, even though he claims to dislike the Clintons, he claims to be anti-establishment, very different from the Clintons. He's actually been working with individuals who aided Bill Clinton during his impeachment investigation. And so what is Trump exactly doing with the

evidence or the advice he's been given? Well, he's appearing to be busy, right? And he's pushing out this message that while Democrats are wasting their time and resources, focusing on the impeachment investigation, he's out there working for the average American, and he's working hard. In fact, he shared that perspective during his recent rally in Florida. Take a look. Everybody's getting rich, and I'm working my ass off. I can tell you. But while we're creating jobs and killing terrorists and taking care of our border, It's really setting records now. You see what's going on?

And the wall is happening. It's getting built rapidly, and that's a real wall. The radical left Democrats are trying to rip our nation apart. And now the same maniacs are pushing the deranged impeachment. Think of this. Impeachment. Impeachment. So, over the weekend, he went to visit troops in Afghanistan, and he doesn't usually

do stuff like that, right? Usually he's golfing or he's enjoying himself, he doesn't really care too much about visiting troops at all. But he visited the troops, and this is part of his strategy to appear as though he's busy, he's looking out for the average American, he's looking out for the troops, while Democrats are hyper-focused on the impeachment investigation. The fact of the matter is, Democratic lawmakers have passed many bills that have stalled in the Senate because Mitch McConnell won't even bring it up for a vote.

And Donald Trump would of course veto anything that Democrats are in favor of. So they're not do nothing Democrats, they've been working hard trying to push for policies that actually matter. What Trump is doing is all political theater. Yeah. So first on the rally tape, okay, I can't help myself. We're going to correct three lies that he said in there. He said, we're killing tariffs.

What are you talking about? You're the one who instituted tariffs. It's the exact opposite of killing tariffs. It makes no sense at all. He just implemented new tariffs today. Yeah. And then he's like, and we were sending records on the border. Well, that's partly true.

a record number of people coming in, so for at least over a decade. So he cracked down on immigrants for two to three years. And what happened was sometime last year, we broke a record on a number of people crossing the border. What happened? I thought it'd been getting tough on immigrants was supposed to work, and we were supposed to have less people crossing the border. Well, it didn't work at all.

It didn't work at all. Why? Because he'd taken away aid from three Latin American countries that desperately needed it. It created worse situations, and it led to more migration, not less. less migration because he's an idiot. And then he said, we're building the wall rapidly, rapidly. None of it has been built. So yes, they're working on it now because he illegally diverted some funding to the wall, but

so far no extra wall has been built. It's being built rapidly, okay? Yeah. If it's being built, it certainly ain't rapid. Okay, now, on to the troops. So all the presidents do this, they're all photo ops. So it's true when Democrats do it, it's true when Republicans do it. But it's a nice thing anyway.

You should still go and do Thanksgiving with the troops, and I'm glad he did it. It's a nice gesture. Yes, Anna's right, he does it less than other presidents, significantly less than Bush or Obama. It's because he doesn't like to travel, especially if he's not making money of it. In fact, when he did go here, because finally, he's in real trouble on impeachment. So he's like, oh, I got a great idea, let me hide behind the troops. That's what I thought. Let me use the troops as props.

Of course, of course. So, you know what he did after he came back? He complained that he didn't have enough to eat. He just can't leave well enough alone. He just can't. All you got to do is just shut up. Just go take the picture there. What did he say about?

What did he say about how he didn't have enough to eat? Why would you say that? And you're about to go back on Air Force One, where you will have plenty to eat, okay? I saw something where he referred to eating gorgeous turkey. Like, who refers to it as gorgeous turkey? Yeah, there was a gorgeous turkey. We chopped it up and then ate it. It was gorgeous, though, before we chopped it up.

Okay, so, yeah, I mean, okay, so here's the fascinating part about all of this, right? So he's like, all right, I normally look like I'm a lazy ass with all this executive time and I don't do anything. But like, let me appear busy. And again, he got that advice for Mark Penn, a Clinton strategist. But let's compare the two different presidents and whether or not the strategy will work for Trump. Because it did work for Clinton, but Clinton had other things, other factors that worked in his favor. So one of those factors was the fact that Clinton was much more popular than Trump was. So Clinton survived his 1998 impeachment in part because the economy was roaring and because he appeared to many voters to be relentlessly focused on doing the business of the American people.

When Clinton left office in 2001, Gallup measured his job approval rating at 66%. As we know, Trump's approval rating is not very high. So Clinton's approval rating hovered in the high 50s and 60s, whereas Trump's has been mired below 50%. And that's being kind to him. He has never crossed 50%. He has, that means he's literally never been popular in this country. Ever, ever, during his entire presidency.

The highest that I've seen him get is around 45%. That's his peak. He goes down into the mid-30s, which is disastrous. And as you just can do the math yourself there, is about literally half of Clinton's popularity. There are many other factors that were involved. Clinton, at the end of his presidency, I thought there's some disastrous things, far too much deregulation of banking, media, et cetera. But what no one could take away from him was he was a workaholic.

Everybody knew he was a workaholic, he worked around the clock, wouldn't stop working. Meanwhile, Trump, to Anna's point, builds in six hours of what they call executive time, which is napping, Fox and Friends, and tweeting. It's very important. And that's it. And that is what's considered his work. Everybody knows Trump's the laziest man in America. Everybody knows that, okay?

Giant difference. And so other than that, they were trying to impeach Clinton over a concessional affair he had when they actually started on a real estate deal that it turns out, He was not corrupt on. So it was totally tangential, had nothing to do with anything, whereas Trump has committed half a dozen crimes and that are clear, massive, and what they were originally investigating him for. So there's all the difference in the world.

But there is one thing that unites them, and it's greasy consultant lobbyists like Mark Penn. So look, guys, I've seen Mark Penn in green rooms, and I think that I'm beginning to- That is a perfect photo to describe what Chank is talking about right now. Yeah, so I'm beginning to agree with Anna. Look, off air, I'm cordial, unamiable with everybody. And sometimes at a point where they're surprised, they're like, I thought that was like angry guy online, right? But as I've told you a million times in my real life, I'm happy or lucky, it's just the

news pisses me off, right? But maybe Anna's right, she doesn't talk to people in the green room, et cetera, I mean, Mark Penn, This is the exact Democratic consultant group, no moral core at all. Right. Oh, I'm getting paid, who cares? Clinton, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, help the bankers, yeah, let Murdoch buy everything in media. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, oh, but we're Democrats, we're Democrats, you can't criticize us.

Then he turns around and helps Trump. You're still a Democrat? You ain't a Democrat. You never were, you have no moral core at all. So money, money, money, money, money. Here, let me try to help Trump trick people and get away with his crimes. And so look, Mark Penn is Mark Penn, and he is among the worst of the worst. But it's not just Mark Penn.

A lot of these Democratic consultants, they will then turn around and go wherever the money is. Oh, you want to run as a third party candidate and maybe get Trump elected? No problem. You're a billionaire. Money, money, money, money, money, money, money. Everything's about the money that they can get their greasy hands on. So that's who Mark Penn is. And a lot of his buddies in the Democratic consultant class that runs Washington, they don't

care about any principles, and look at that, it's the minute Trump offers them money, they go running like dogs to them. Of course, of course. And look, my read of this is that it's gonna work, right? I mean, the photo ops, the one thing that Trump is really good at doing is self-marketing and self-promoting. So even though we know the truth and even though we know what's actually happening behind these photo ops, he's not really doing anything for the American people.

A lot of this stuff is more symbolic. The fact of the matter is it is going to work with people. And it sucks. Democrats should have an anti-Trump. I mean, any shift. Please don't let it be shift. What do you mean? He's so energetic and enthusiastic.

Yeah, it's signed someone to knock down every one of his talking points. Say, this is our Trump talking point slayer, okay? Make it Rashida Tili. You know what'll, you know, oh, no, no, we can't do that. She was originally in favor of impeachment. Yeah, that's right. And she was right. Oh, no, no, no, but she'd be really aggressive.

That's the whole point. Okay, every time, that was a fun 40-de-slip. Every dumb, I said, for Trump, right? Every time he does a talking point, oh, yeah, well, I was busy, you know, not getting enough food with the troops, right? Have Rashido or whoever you pick, but they've got to be strong and aggressive. Come out and say, no, that's not true. Here's your talking points of the day, defeated, and have charts. put up big posters so the media can pay attention.

Have someone knocked down every one of his stupid lies. Democrats, this is not that hard. Please get in the ballgame. We got to take a break. When we come back, we have a breaking news story on a congressman from California who's about to plead guilty to a crime. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-The-Republic or UNFTR. As a young Turks fan, you already know that the government, the media, and corporations

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Republican Congressman Duncan Hunter plans on pleading guilty. to one of the 60 criminal charges against him related to illegal use of campaign finance money. So he had used some of his campaign funds for all sorts of personal reasons, and of course that's against the law. So he has released a statement saying, the plea I accepted is misuse of my own campaign funds, of which I pled guilty to only one count. I think it's important that people know that what I did, I think it's important that people know that I did make mistakes. I did not properly monitor or account for my campaign money. I justify my plea with the understanding that I am responsible for my own campaign and my own campaign money. Now, this is a

huge reversal because as we know, we've talked about this story on the show extensively, he had denied any wrongdoing, but there was a great deal of evidence showing that he had spent the money on dental work, on trips with his family, on tactical military gear, tactical pants from a military store. He also- Golf. Golf, exactly. So all sorts of personal things that he's not supposed to use that money for. He also said, I'm confident that the transition will be a good one referring to his seat in Congress. My office is going to remain open. We're going to pass it off to whoever takes this next seat. I think it's important to keep the seat a Republican seat. Well, that's not, it's not up to you.

And so it's really unclear whether he's going to resign, but it seems like he's giving us a little bit of a hint that he plans to. Okay, so look, you might be going to prison, so that would be excellent. And of course, he should. One of the other things he spent the money on was flying his pet rabbit across the country. Another thing he spent money on was his five affairs. Now, he then blamed his wife originally for misusing the money, pretty sure. She didn't spend it on the affairs.

So now he's turning around and say, well, you know, I hope my wife doesn't get any prison time for this and, you know, I'm accepting responsibility. Are you? You know, he talks about, well, it's just one crime I'm admitting to you. That's why it's a plea deal, otherwise they'd convict you on all of the crimes. Right. And what happened? I thought you said it was a deep state plot.

See, that's what they see, understand when Donald Trump and all of his lackeys talk about the deep state and hoax. and witch hunt, et cetera. At the end of the day, a lot of these guys come back around and go, yeah, yeah, of course I did it. I mean, they'll be ridiculous. I don't want to go to prison for like 20 years, so I'm going to take a plea and maybe go to prison for a couple of years for ripping off all my campaign donors in a manner that is brazenly illegal.

Yeah, of course I was lying when I said it was a deep state plot. Who would be stupid enough to believe that? Oh, right, the Republican voters who put them back into office in the middle of the investigation when they already knew all these facts. It's amazing. Because what? You guys believed it really was a deep state plot? Because right now, Duncan Hunter turns around and goes, no, you morons. Of course it wasn't a deep state plot. That was an obvious lie. I did it. So. He stole money from his own donors, right? I mean, look, it's a Republican congressman. I'm guessing that he doesn't have like small dollar donors who are, you know, scraping by. But still, I mean, these are people who supported him. He took their money and he spent it on nonsense, including affairs. And his wife, he did throw his wife under. a bus. But then his wife pleaded guilty and confessed to everything, which of course threw him under the bus. So he really had no choice but to take a plea deal, which it appears he's doing

here. And he did release a statement about his wife. He specifically said, whatever my time in custody will be, by the way, she's facing five years, but she'll probably serve much less. I will take that hit. My only hope is that the judge does not sentence my wife to jail. I think my kids need a mom in the home. Probably needed a dad in the home too. Where are the fathers? Apparently having affairs in Washington, D.C. Yeah, with ill-gotten gains.

Maybe you should have thought about your wife going in jail before you threw her under the bus. And maybe, like Donald Trump, you should have put a couple of thoughts behind, hey, if I throw everyone that is closest to me under a bus, I might not have anyone left to support me. But like Donald Trump, you're an idiot, and so you didn't think that's through at all. and now come around and have to admit that you were in fact guilty. And this is the easiest prediction of all time. Later, when he gets out of prison, he'll say, well, no, I mean, did I plead guilty? Did I serve time?

But I didn't really mean it. It was a deep state plot all along. You know he's going to do that. Everybody knows he's going to do that. These are the greasiest worst people in America. I mean, how could you not see through this guy? But he was narrowly reelected last time, this time around the same Democrats in the campaign, and you should support someone who actually isn't corrupt.

How about that for a change? Amar Kappa Najjar is an excellent candidate. He was a Justice Democrat, and that means he doesn't take corporate PAC money, let alone abuse it like Duncan Hunter did illegally. So whether you agree 100% with his politics or not in that district. At least you know he's clean, that would be a nice change for your district. So if you want to find out more about him, it's compacampaign.com, C-A-M-P-A campaign.com, compacampaign.com. A great, solid, progressive in that district, but most importantly, clean and uncorrupted.

All right, let's move on to our next story. Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump have been pushing this nonsense conspiracy theory involving Ukraine and how it allegedly tried to battle in our 2016 presidential election. Now, that has been debunked over and over again, but that hasn't stopped some of Trump's lackeys from regurgitating this propaganda. One of those lackeys was Senator Kennedy, who recently went on Chuck Todd Show, Meet the Press, and found himself having to defend the statements that he made about Ukraine. Take a look.

Now, come on, I mean, I got to put up, you realize the only other person selling this argument outside the United States is this man. Vladimir Putin. This is what he said on November 20th. Thank God nobody is accusing us anymore of interfering in U.S. elections. Now they're accusing Ukraine. Well, let them sort this out among themselves. You're just accused a former president of Ukraine. You've done exactly what the Russian operation is trying to get American politicians to do. Are you at all concerned that you've been duped? No, because you just read the articles. Do you believe the Economist magazine is a reputable journal. It's been around, I think, since 1843. Let me put it this way, Chuck, let's suppose,

and I don't believe it, but you're right, and I'm wrong, then what harm would it do to allow the President of the United States who has a demonstrated record fighting foreign corruption to introduce evidence? Why doesn't he? He has been, he has been provided, he has been provided every opportunity to provide exculpatory evidence on any of this, and they have chosen not to. No, he hasn't. No, he hasn't. So he was suggesting, Kennedy was suggesting that Ukraine, there's a possibility that Ukraine could be guilty of hacking into the DNC server to obtain those emails.

Again, look, Fiona Hill, who is part of the intelligence community, testified during the impeachment investigation and specifically called this out and said, look, there are some Republican lawmakers who keep pushing this propaganda that Ukraine was behind. that hack and Ukraine was absolutely not behind that. It was 100% Russia. We have evidence to show that and this is incredibly harmful toward Ukraine. By way, it's totally harmful toward everything that's going on right now because it delegitimizes every single part of our government, right?

Just to do Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin's bidding. So let me be as clear as we can possibly be about what a wild conspiracy theory it is that Ukraine interfered on elections. So what is the theory? Well, Trump laid it out in the call with Zelensky, the Ukrainian president. He said, look, CrowdStrike has a server in Ukraine, and so I want you to investigate that. Now, Trump has said that CrowdStrike is a Ukrainian company that took the servers of the Democrats.

The DNC servers. The DNC servers, and somehow brought them over to Ukraine and are still hiding them in Ukraine. CrowdStrike is not at all a Ukrainian company, it's an American company based in Sunnyvale, California. The material, the information that the people who hacked the DNC servers got is not in a server. It's in the cloud. There's no physical server in Ukraine or in Sunnyvale. It's in the cloud. I like that I pointed out.

Okay, so there's no basis at all. For this wild insane conspiracy theory. So then the people who originally put up that conspiracy theory turns out was not Trump. It was Putin. So Putin says, oh yeah, I think the Ukrainians have a server that's that they're hiding, right? And Trump doesn't know anything about a cloud, doesn't know anything about servers, does know any of that, right? So he says, oh, Vlad told me to tell you guys that it's Ukraine, that works for me, that

works for Vlad, it works for everybody who's crooked. So now the entire Republican Party is like, yep, nope, there is no, there is no, there is no cloud, it was a server, it's a Ukrainian company, I don't care that it's based in California, I'm just going to lie to you on behalf of both Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, the entire Republican Party, they've all become stuages for Putin. It is disgusting, absolutely disgusting. If the Democrats had done 1% of this, 10% of this, the Republican Party would have shredded them and the media would have gone along. They'd almost put the Democratic Party out of business right now, if they've done 10% of this, working on behalf of Putin, like the obvious

six stooges that they are with wild, insane conspiracy theories, they don't even bother backing up with one fact. Okay, so here's where I think the biggest problem is, right? Because Republicans are gonna Republican, Trump is gonna trump, they're gonna do what they do. And they're not gonna have any real evidence to back up their arguments. They're gonna spread propaganda, they're gonna spread lies, they're gonna do whatever is possible to show Trump that they're loyal to him, right? And in fact, Trump recently tweeted in response to Senator Kennedy, thank you to great

Republican Senator John Kennedy for the job he did in representing both the Republican Party and myself against sleepy eyes, Chuck Todd on Meet the Press. Meet the depressed, okay. Oh, ha ha ha ha, that's so clever, not remotely clever. Okay, so they're gonna, they're, they're his lackeys, of course, they're gonna go on any show, any network or cable show, and pretend like they're supportive of Trump, that they believe him, that they think he's innocent, because they care about their political careers. So stop having them on the shows. Look, the reason why we talk about it on this show is because

you need someone in the media to debunk this nonsense. Otherwise, you just have all these mainstream media outlets who provide the platform, but very rarely challenge these lawmakers. Now, in this case, Chuck Todd, congratulations, you challenge Senator Kennedy. But more often than not, he doesn't, which is why this clip made news. Everyone's like, whoa, Chuck Todd, do you guys see that? He challenged him. It's amazing. Let's all give him a big round of applause.

Great. How about don't have these people on anymore? If you know they're lying and they're going to lie, it's predictable. Why have them on? Nah. I mean, look, they're good at media blackouts. They've done it to Andrew Yang. They've done it to other Democratic candidates.

And in that case, I think that it's completely unjustified, completely unfair, because we're just talking about someone who has different ideas, let's hear them. In this case, you have people who are enabling criminality in the executive branch. Yeah, so, well, your last point's really good. So, but let me disagree with the first one. I think you should have them on, but that should not be the exception, it should be the rule. I thought Chuck Dodd did a good job there. And when I liked it, he had Putin's quote ready to go, it would have been great if they had

Fiona Hill's quote too, but that's nitpicking. So an actual aggressive challenge. I agree with you, Anna, that it's making news because the mainstream media almost never challenges Republicans. So when they do, they're like, whoa, where that come from? But give credit where credit is due. Chuck Todd did a good job on that. He's done a good job on this issue before.

And so I think you should have them on and shred them. So that's a fine point of disagreement to have. But your second point is a bit devastating because the mainstream media will say, What am I going to do? That's the Republican Party. That's half the country. Not really. It's now about 35 to 40% of the country.

But I gotta have them on there, one of the major parties. I'm actually very open to that argument. I agree with that. On the other hand, but you never have Andrew Yang on, you never have progressives on. So progressives are arguably just that wing of the Democratic Party, according to the polling, is larger than the entire Republican Party. I can show you a dozen polls. But does you have any progressives on?

I mean, sometimes because you're forced to, you'll have Bernie Sanders on because he's top two candidate, but even then it's barely, right? But you almost never have any progressives on to say things that are true and rational, but yet you fill your airtime with these guys who are now, I mean, John Kennedy used to be a person with some degree of intellect and some degree of principle, even though I disagreed with him on everything, now he's become the saddest little puppy dog for Donald Trump. 100%. But I have to add one other thing, because let's be fair. It's not just about Republicans. Right before that interview with Kennedy, he interviewed Amy Klobuchar. And Amy Klobuchar put out a bunch

of lies regarding what Medicare for All would actually do. That I guarantee you if he didn't challenge her own. He did not. That's my point. That's my point. Okay, so it's frustrating because they know everything is so predictable. He had, Chuck Todd, in response to Kennedy, had that graphic ready to go because he already knew what Kennedy was going to say, right? They know what they're doing. And the fact of the matter is, a lot of our societal issues come from the fact that the media is not doing its job. They refuse to challenge certain lies, and then they platform people without challenging them when they're enabling criminality most of the time. In this case, again, Chuck Todd did challenge Kennedy, but how did we get to this point?

How is it that so many Americans right now believe the nonsense and the lies coming from the Republican Party? It's because the media consistently has failed to do its job. Well, look, if they were doing their job, and see, this is where they would say, oh, no way, we can never, ever say this. They would say that the entire Republican Party is lying. On this issue, there is no question. You don't have to say they're lying about being pro-life or pro-choice. That's an opinion. But there are actual facts in the world.

And when the Republican Party lies in its entirety on the issue of the server in Ukraine and almost every other defense of Trump on impeachment, their actual provable lies. And it is your job to say, yes, it is the entire Republican Party. And they would never say that because they'd be like, oh, no, we would offend Republican viewers, we would defend Republican Party. They wouldn't give us access. Okay, then fine. Just say, look, admit it.

You should run a logo that says we. We do political correctness on behalf of the Republican Party. We don't tell you the whole truth because then we might lose access to Republicans. And by the way, we also, much worse when it comes to the Democrats, we cover up three quarters of the truth. So we never tell you that Medicare for All Act should provides you better insurance than private insurance. That it covers more.

We never ever tell you that. We never ever tell you that the current system costs twice as much as any other country. country that has single payer. We never tell you that. In fact, we tell you the replacement, it would be more expensive, which is just a flat-out lie, but we all say it, and we platform all the moderate Democrats, all 32 of them in the race, right? And we never challenged them on any of that. And whenever there's a progressive on, we yell at them, oh, Bernie Sanders isn't going

to cost too much money, even though they're totally wrong on that issue. So look, yes, the mainstream media has massive, massive problems in how they're covering politics. You should care about the facts and not about your desperate need to appease mainstream Democrats and lying Republicans. When we come back from the break, we're going to do one of my favorite segments on the show as the White House turns. But I also want to let you guys know that Emma Viglin will be joining us for hour two. A very own Emma Viglin in studio in L.A., she will join us for hour two. We'll be right back. At TYT, we frequently talk about all the ways that big tech companies

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In the meantime, enjoy this free second. All right, back on a young turks, so many great comments, it's only time for a couple. A bucket of squirrels's ammo against logic writes in, with how many politicians getting run over, we're going to need to enhance our training of this country's bus drivers. That's funny. Stand Against Hopelessness says Kennedy also claimed in the same interview that he hadn't received the intel briefing that gave lawmakers the facts that shows the yarn about Ukraine and tagging the U.S. elections in 2016 is Russian in origin. Well, if you didn't receive the intel briefing, then why are you on television talking about it? Because the intel doesn't matter.

He's going to defend Trump no matter what because his political career depends on it. 100%. Meg says, I'm going to try to live my life so that Dr. Fiona Hill would be proud of me. I like that. It's a rando comment, but I like it a lot. Danielle Jelson just wants to say on Twitter, down goes Duncan, down goes Duncan. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. My sound machine is not hooked up today.

Otherwise, I would have played that for you. But thank you for bringing it up. Rexul on YouTube Super Chat says, did I hear jank biceps? Yes, please. Oh, God. No, my biceps are mediocre. The triceps on the other hand. Okay.

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You can get different emojis that let us know or handles or banners, I should say, that let us know that you're a member on YouTube. and we pay more attention to your comments then. I'm keeping it real. All right, so let me give you guys a quick roundup of news. So today we had a lot of little news and it's kind of tragic for these folks that it's little news and I wanted to run through it quickly for you guys. A couple of people have dropped out of the presidential race. So Steve Bullock, it was good to know you.

He is the governor of Montana and he dropped out today. He made one debate in July and his signature campaign issue was money out of politics. Well, I love that. So I was actually looking forward to that. He's a governor of Montana, a bit of a populist, money out of politics, et cetera. But so why didn't he gain any traction? Because even on his own signature issue, he ran as like a middle ground candidate. You can't middle ground your signature issue.

There was no talk of, you know, we've got to get an amendment to end all private financing. There's no talk of corruption. If that's your signature issue, you got to talk about corruption. But he didn't want to offend the establishment Democrats. Well, okay, congratulations on that strategy, you got 0% and have now exited the campaign. This is another guy that a lot of the reporters were excited about, like, oh, Steve Bullock, I'll tell you, sitting governor, governors become presidency in Montana, Trump won Montana, but here's the Democrat, Steve Bullock.

And then he came in all moderates. They're like, moderates, perfect. Voters love moderates. How'd that turn out? Turns out voters don't love moderates. Okay, Joe Sestak, former admiral, also, former congressman hasn't been in Congress in nine years, but that is no excuse for the absolute zero he got in press coverage.

Press coverage, unfortunately, is everything. Both these guys went and tried to meet people in diners in Iowa. Like that's some hokey stuff left over from decades ago that Chris Matthews will yell and scream about like, oh yeah, you got to go to the diners, you got to go to diners, no you don't. They went to all the dinas. It didn't make any goddamn difference because the press wouldn't cover them. The only person who gave Joe Sassack an interview was us at the Young Turks. We gave almost all the candidates that were willing interviews here.

At their height, the candidates who were up to, at their peak, 24 presidential candidates on the Democratic side. If you took it over time, different people dropped out at different times. I believe there was 27 people in the race overall. We're now down to 16 candidates. Joe Sastak was a good guy. And the press, when they decide who is legitimate and who is not legitimate are the ultimate kingmakers. Nobody rigs elections more than the mainstream media. Whether it's implicit or not, whether it's conscious or not, they're the biggest

deciders of all. And then they'll go, oh, no, no, no, we got nothing to do with it. Oh, please, you never gave sestack a chance, right or wrong. And then finally, fun little story to end on. Jay Sekulow is Donald Trump's main lawyer, actually, in his offense. But you don't see him much. He doesn't go on Fox News yelling and screaming like Rudy does. He's not in prison like Michael Cohen.

interesting New York Times profile of him. One little side note that got a lot of people's attention, he apparently told a couple of close associates who then told the New York Times, which is not an accident, that he voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. Now, second of those known as very conservative and is in evangelical circles. But he is making sure that the New York Times profile of him lets people know that he voted for Hillary Clinton. Hmm, I wonder why that is. So my guess is later when Trump is convicted on whatever things he's convicted on or thrown out of office or both, because conviction is both a political one in the Senate in regards to impeachment, but you could have a criminal conviction as well.

And who would know that better than his lawyer? So his lawyer now going around and saying, look, man, I'm his lawyer. I'm his lawyer, I got to defend him, right? But I voted for Hillary. Perhaps very, very telling. All right. All right, well, let's talk about a story that gives me the excuse to use my favorite bumper as the White House turns. Don't go to the video yet.

All right. So the predictable rift between Donald Trump and his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani continues to grow. And this time it involves a Fox News host by the name of Steve Hilton, which, Which means that today, it's another episode of as the White House turns. We made some very big mistakes. I asked for his resignation. I'm disappointed in the Attorney General. Look, we all know that Trump is itching to throw his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani under the bus in order to distract from the fact that Donald Trump also did.

questionable things when it came to Ukraine. That's why he's facing this impeachment investigation. Now, Steve Hilton, who is a host on Fox News, had some advice for Donald Trump to maybe speed up this process. Take a look. We learn more disturbing details about Rudy's role. It turns out that the former mayor's own personal business interests are wrapped up in all this. To put it simply, he's been trying to enrich himself on the back of his relationship with

President Trump. And you know what? I'm just fed up with the lot of them. Rudy Gianni was a great mayor and a great leader, but he's turned into an unmitigated and now it seems unethical disaster. While President Trump has been trying to govern for the American people, all these hangers-on have been trying to make money for themselves off Trump. There are a bunch of chances, grifters and spivs taking advantage of the president to do dodgy deals in the world's shadiest places. Before they completely derail this presidency and its substantive historic policy results on China, the economy, and much more, it's time to dump these toxic chumps. So before we get to Rudy Giuliani's response to this, let's talk a little bit about what

Rudy Giuliani is accused of, what Trump is accused of, and how all of this mess is really intertwined, right? Because the fact of the matter is Rudy Giuliani was working with some shady people in Ukraine, those people were probably working with Rudy Giuliani because of his close relationship to Donald Trump. But Donald Trump had his own objectives, he had his own agenda, he had his own wants, which were very clear in the memo that we saw, the phone call between Trump and Vladimir Zelensky, the president of Ukraine. Trump wanted political dirt on his political rival Joe Biden.

And he said repeatedly in that conversation that Zelensky should speak to Rudy Giuliani and William Barr, his attorney general. Okay, but Rudy Giuliani also had his own business dealings going on. And so Steve Hilton isn't necessarily wrong there, but he's on purpose, in my opinion, leaving out the lack of legality with what Trump was doing and trying to dig up dirt on his political rival. Yeah, he's half right and half comically wrong. So Steve Hilton is an interesting character.

I interviewed him here at the Young Turks. You should check out that interview because he's not a normal conservative. He is an independent thinker and sometimes we'll agree with the populist left. So I find him to be an interesting character and one that is oftentimes intellectually honest, but not in this case. So the part that he's right about is, as Anna pointed out, Giuliani did have side deals. Steve Hilton is right to point that out. He's right to say dump him except that Giuliani says, I've got insurance.

Then later went and said, oh, no, Donald Trump, I was just kidding about my insurance, wink, wink, wink, wink, right? So that gets the part that Steve Hilton is obviously wrong about, and I'd be surprised if he didn't know he was wrong. So just because Giuliani has a side deal, doesn't mean that what he was doing with Trump wasn't also unethical. And you know that. And so he makes it seem like, oh my God, Donald Trump's been doing these wonderful policy initiatives. and he's been doing yeoman's work and the people's work. He's working so hard, getting such good results. Oh, poor Giuliani betrayed it.

I mean, poor Trump got betrayed by Giuliani. He's such a good, well-meaning soul that he didn't know that Giuliani was doing this side business. Oh, please, you don't believe that. Nobody believes that. So you lose all credibility when you say comical things like that. Trump's policies have been a total disaster, nor does he care about any of those. policies. He cares about being a grifter.

And the reason he picked Giuliani is because peas in a pod. Exactly. The same reason he picked Michael Cohen, the same reason he picks every criminal in his administration. It's not the bug, it's the feature that they are fellow criminals. So the Ukrainian business partners that Giuliani was working with, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were pushing Giuliani to get Donald Trump to fire Fiona Hill, right? I'm sorry, not Fiona Hill, Marie Yovanovitch, because Marie Yovanovitch was the ambassador to Ukraine who was actually holding corrupt people accountable.

And Lev Parnas, Igor Fruman, according to what Parnas has said, wanted to get rid of Marie Yovanovitch, right? So they were using Rudy Giuliani's help and his relationship to Donald Trump in order to accomplish that, and they did accomplish that. So that's part of the issue here. Now let's get to Giuliani's response to Hilton because it's hilarious, of course, it's Twitter and he says, I have not taken a penny for representing my friend President Trump. I'm outraged that Steve Hilton reported that I was trying to pursue private business deals in Ukraine

to enrich myself when in reality I've made zero in Ukraine very lazy reporting. Hold on a moment, I got to clarify. Yes, like Trump, he was too stupid to consummate the deal. So they had papers that Rudy Giuliani signed to do these deals, but he couldn't finish it and get paid. So now like Trump, he turns around and goes, well, look, I went in with a gun to a bank and asked for the money, but it turns out they didn't have the money, so I'm not guilty. That's not how the law works. That's still bank robbery. And so he's like, I went to go make the side deal. I signed the paper saying, hey, I love the money.

But God damn it, I didn't get the money. Well, that doesn't make you not guilty. And Giuliani is a former prosecutor. That's how he came up in the first place. He knows that. Yep. He continues to write in this Twitter threat, since representing Trump, I have considered and turned down all deals in Ukraine.

You didn't turn it down. Even those not presenting a conflict, lawyers tell me Steve Hilton is a wildcard and I should sue him for libel. He recklessly disregarded the truth. Okay, so one thing that I just want to remind everyone about is that Giuliani can't keep his facts straight, he can't keep his story straight. In fact, he admitted during a recent interview with Glenn. Beck, that he's still communicating with the Ukrainians. Take a look.

There are several prosecutors sitting in Kiev right now that want to come to the U.S. to testify to that, and they are not being given visas by our State Department. Pompeo is the head of the State Department. President Trump is the President. All I can tell you is, all I can tell you is that for three or four years, that embassy has deliberately interfered with the ability to develop this story. Oh, I know that. You give me their names, and I will go and bring the story. I will give you their names. Okay, great. We will go to Ukraine and get them today. In contact with two of them today. Oops. These are the corrupt prosecutors, by the way.

It's amazing. So, look, it was a nice meeting of the mind. because Rudy thought, I'll do a side deal with the people in Ukraine who are corrupt, who want to get rid of the American ambassador because she's fighting against corruption. And then he goes and tells Trump, she's fighting against corruption. You want to do corruption in Ukraine. He's like, oh, great, let's fire her. Right? So they're both like, hey, we'd like to fire her because she's fighting corruption.

And so maybe for different reasons, but they both wanted to do it. And then, of course, Trump turns around and goes, yeah, I fired her because I wanted to fight corruption. Oh, come on. But my last question is, why is Glenbeck's studio buried underneath the sea? Okay, can we bring it back up again? Because it looks like behind him, he's doing the show from underneath the ocean floor. And you see it? Oh my God, that is hilarious.

A secret bunker buried deep beneath the sea. But they discovered something they shouldn't have discovered. A new movie coming out soon. Maybe it was a thing that wrote the beautiful mine drawings on the chalkboard next to him. Oh, my God. All right. We're going to take a break when we come back. Emma Viglin joins us for hour two.

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