The Young Turks - TYT Extended Clip - February 11th, 2020

Episode Date: February 12, 2020

Chuck Todd said that Bernie Supporters were "brown shirts". John Iadarola and Cenk Uygur, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Man, big day, giant day. Enormous day. It is. It's my wife's birthday. Hey, Arlene, happy birthday. And then there's something about politics. All right, okay. So, New Hampshire primary.

So not only are we going to cover it starting at 8 o'clock Eastern. And we've got the normal two hour show for you guys today. No conversation tonight and no post game tonight. Well, we will have post game at the very end of New Hampshire coverage, always for the members. TYT.com slash join. You can also hit the join button underneath if you're watching on YouTube. Now, I just, we're going to have a ton of stories about Bernie and Buttigieg and Trump. And there's kind of a Saturday night massacre happening right now in the Trump administration.

And we'll tell you about that in a little bit. So tons of stuff to get to, but I'm going to tell you just real quick, two polls. So Bernie in New Hampshire, that's right now, as an eight point lead in the last poll, okay? So cross your fingers. Well, as soon as we have exit polls, which will be actually during the main show very soon, we'll share that with you guys. We'll give you breaking updates on the exit polls as we have them. And then secondly, national polling, Biden's been leading for a year straight. No more.

Not only has Bernie taking the lead, last two polls, Bernie with an eight point lead and a ten point lead. I did not see that one. So here, it's not even here comes Bernie, Bernie's gone. There goes Bernie! There goes Bernie! All right, two, two, two, stay right here, stay right here. Whisper of a, he's gone.

Yeah, okay, guys, this, if he wins New Hampshire, especially if he wins it big, Chris Matthews, cry watches back. We'll do that. Careful, Bernie. All right, but why don't you watch it with people who actually are excited rather than everyone on cable news will be in the middle of a Hunter S. Thompson book of Fear and Loathing tonight if Bernie wins. Okay, let's get started. Okay, let's, I threw this story in first, I don't know if you're gonna be, you know,

that invest in it, but you know, what you're gonna do anyway. Chuck Todd has some thoughts about Bernie Sanders, but also about his supporters. There he is. If there's a stop burning movement, that is going to be to hell will pay with the Bernie people because they are so committed. Hey, I want to bring up something that Jonathan last put in the bulwark today. And it was about how, in Ruth, we've all been on the receiving end of the Bernie Online Brigade. And here's what he says. He says, no other candidate has anything like this sort of digital brown shirt brigade, I mean, except for Donald Trump.

The question no one is asking is this. What if you can't win the presidency without an online mob? What if we now live in a world we're having a bullying agro social media army running around, popping anyone who sticks their head up is either an important ingredient for or a critical market marker of success. I know everybody's freaking out about this, but you saw the Maga Rally that's preparing around here. There are people coming from three or four states on that. That's real. And, you know, that isn't, this is like burning.

There's a lot of issues there. Oh, yeah, yeah. Why don't we start with the digital brown shirts? I think that's probably where I should start. Yeah, although I want to get to the online mob. So if you missed it, he just called the Jewish candidates supporters brown shirts. If you don't know, brown shirts are Nazis. So now, I wouldn't go towards anti-Semitism or anything like that.

I think Chuck Todd is Jewish. I didn't look it up. But so I only know that because the right wingers are lunatics and they're like they outed, like, outed. to Jewish people in media. Anyway, so, but Chuck, you ought to be a little careful in comparing a major presidential candidate and maybe the first Jewish president ever, yes, I said it, and his supporters to Brown's shirts, that's nuts. And one of his excuses is, well, hey, listen, I'm just quoting someone.

I mean, all right, so, first of all, you're quoting a conservative columnist, yeah, it's shocking They don't agree with Bernie Sanders and want to call him a Nazi. Second of all, if we're playing that game, can I call, quote someone calling you a Nazi and go, hey, I'm just quoting. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. I'm just quoting people, right? So online mob.

How about the mainstream media mob that attacks every progressive, every time Bernie a thousand times. Your mob doesn't count. On your own network, Chris Matthews, nearly in tears, they're going to take me to Central Park and execute me. are you kidding me hysterical lunacy and that mob never counts okay but when anyone says hey could you stop punching us in the face they're like look at the online mob look at the online mob I mean all we did was a thousand attack pieces in a row against Bernie Sanders and here we are having a panel

discussion where we all agree that stopping Bernie is really really really important to the republic and obvious yes to do it hey remember the stop Buttigieg movement oh right there isn't one because they love Buttigieg. They love them, they can't get enough of them. Besides which, easier to stop. Okay, so, but they never noticed the irony of their vicious attacks against Bernie Sanders, which never ever count, and if anyone ever says, hey, could you not do that? Look at these fanatics online.

Yeah, why are you being so mean to me, you Nazis? Exactly. I literally. I understand it. I don't understand, except that I do understand it. On the quoting thing, get the hell out of here. hell out of here. We quote people all the time. We read quotes where we agree with some of it and don't agree with part of it. And if it's something that is horrible, maybe a little bit of

a caveat coming out of that graphics saying, well, obviously the reference to brown shirts is 100% right out. But let's talk about social media followings. There was none of that. And by the way, when I read graphics, because I'm a person and I'm fallible sometimes if I really like the graphic, or if I don't, like if it's Trump, I'll put like some like flavor into the way I read it? And he did that at the end of his graphic. That was not just an objective reading. It certainly was not a critical reading. That was an enthusiastic reading. It was him as someone who's not supposed to express an opinion, even though he constantly does and did very much there, taking a piece of paper and then being able to read it so that he doesn't get in trouble.

He's just quoting someone, even though he loves the discussion. And no one, no one at that panel said, wait, what are you talking about brown shirts? You're comparing people who are passionate about Medicare for All and student loan death to like a militia that puts the Nazis in power? Nobody. How many, was there, was there $8 million worth of salary at that table? Was there 60 years of experience at that table? Nobody brought up any sort of concerns with what he quoted. And we've quoted, to Johnson people we don't agree with.

And then we immediately say, like, look at how low some of this quote is. He didn't say that. In fact, he followed up by saying a reference to how it reminds us. of the MAGA mob outside. So Bernie Sanders, who wants to give everybody in the country health care so that their family members don't die, wants to give people higher wages, wants to serve the average person rather than the elites like Chuck Todd, is somehow the equivalent of Donald Trump who says, maybe there are good people on the side of the folks that chanted the Jews will not replace us.

Donald Trump who says there should be a Muslim ban, Donald Trump who calls Mexicans rapists and criminals. Donald Trump who gave tax cuts to the richest people in the country, including Chuck Dodd. Okay, so now those two things are apparently equivalent, you know? Well, you know, some people say Hitler is a Nazi and others say Mother Teresa is a Nazi. Well, I guess we'll never know, but I did put them in the same sentence. That's it. And then, oh, I can't believe these goons that support Mother Teresa. This Mother Teresa mob is out of control. Just because we compared her to Hitler, I don't know. Why are they so mad? Yeah, yeah, and look, so obviously because of what he chose to do last night when he, you know, got that and printed it out and had it and he wanted to bring it up, he wanted to have it there.

A lot of people have questions for Chuck Todd. Scarily, in the future, Chuck Todd is going to have questions for some important people because NBC News and MSNBC on Wednesday announced the five journalists who will moderate their Democratic primary debate in Las Vegas later this month. They include Lester Holt and also Chuck Todd, the guy who's going to be choosing and then asking questions of the guy he believes. leaves, leads a mob of Nazis. Okay, preposterous. It's insane. Look, if they said, first of all, hey, somebody on the, one of the hosts of the Young Turks should be one of five moderators in a debate, I guarantee you, it would explode.

They'd find that to be the funniest thing they ever heard. A progressive moderated debate, no way. That's biased. Well, you have five conservative people who are either Democrats or Republicans, I don't know, but none of them are progressive. None of them have ever been progressive. Out of all the debates and all the moderators, not in the Republican Party, but of the debates in the Democratic Party, not one has been progressive.

And they're like, well, of course, and that's why questions are framed as the first 18 minutes of the last debate. Hey, everybody raised their hands if they think a Democratic socialist will definitely lose. Let's talk about how Democratic socialism is the worst and is unelectable and is going to lose. Nobody ever asked the question, hey, last time a moderate to conservative Democrat actually did lose to Donald Trump. So does anybody want to raise their hand for why they think Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg Amy Klobuchar have no chance of winning because they're exactly the same mold as a candidate that lost to Trump last time? Never framed that way because progressives are not allowed, not allowed in at all.

and they would find it outrageous if you allowed a progressive to ever have a voice. And then they say, can you believe they're raising their voice online? Well, where the hell else would we raise it? Yeah. Where the hell else do we even have a voice? Occasionally on Cuomo. Yes, and that's about it. That's about it.

A couple of the shows I had to end on, that's good. So, look, Chuck Todd rightfully being criticized for the brown shirt comments. But here's the issue. I really, I do want this to be sort of a learning moment. they definitely won't learn, but it could be a learning moment for Chuck Todd and the other people that were on that panel about, you know, why these Bernie people are so angry all the time, because you had the calling them an online mob that's the same as Trump, they're Nazis. Those would be high up on the list.

But I want to show you a few other things that have appeared on MSNBC, just in like recent experience, some on that same panel. So let's start there. Let's go to like a minute after the Brown Shirts comment. This is a part of the campaign that we never had to worry about four years ago. Yeah, and I think the question becomes, what if we get to the convention and Bernie Sanders does not have any more near a majority, but he has a plurality. He has 35, 37% of the delegates, and he goes to the convention and says, I want more primaries than anyone else. I have more delegates than anyone else.

I dare you to deny me the nomination superdelegates. You don't have super delegates anymore. I mean, at the first ballot, at least on the first ballot, you don't have the members of Congress who would be. the elders. I mean, that was exactly the reform that the Bernie Sanders people demanded. Oh, guys, guys, guys. It's amazing. That's amazing.

They're so blinded by their own bias. They're like, what if Bernie Sanders made a logical case for why he has the most delegates? And they're like, well, obviously he should be defeated, so we wouldn't accept that. And I wonder if they get angry if we denied him the logical win. that he, they assume all of them, all of them assume it once. Well, obviously, we would deny Bernie Sanders, obviously. How will they respond when we deny him? Yeah, even though in their own fact pattern, he won the most amount of delegates.

They're like, well, obviously we would rig it so he doesn't win. And they won the most primaries in their hypothetical. Yes, that's right. The vote, he won the vote. But then these troublesome people, the unwashed masses would complain. about the rigging we just said we would do. Can you believe how meddlesome they are? After Bernie got the most votes, they'd want him to be the candidate.

And then Andrea Mitchell comes in and goes, this is why it's so bad that we got rid of the superdelegates. Who were the elites? See, the elites could have stopped Bernie in a situation like that. Now we're worried because of Bernie's reforms. We might accidentally have democracy in the Democratic Party. And none of them notice any of the irony. And they all just say it like, well, of course we would rig it against Bernie. And of course that's the right thing.

And I can't believe that they would ever complain about us doing that. Did any producer after they walked off to saying, go, guys, next time you might want to not say the quiet part out loud. Yeah. Hey, you know what? The part where you steal the election. Right, right. Maybe next time you want to at least pretend to be fair because otherwise we're going to get

some blowback and it might be a little bit legitimate. What do you mean legitimate? Those are Nazis that are criticizing us when we steal the election. Yeah, and I don't know for sure. I didn't watch after that point, but I love the idea that they then pivot to talking about Donald Trump, talking about stealing elections. But anyway, so there's that, okay? Obviously, we've got to stop him from getting it in any way possible.

Casey Hunt, Casey on SMBC? Yeah. Just to make sure. Okay, so Casey Hunt, I saw, said she was talking with an individual, and as the sort of lead into talking to that person, she says, well, if Buttigieg rises, it would leave him. the party with two candidates who've shown they have no ability to appeal to people of color. What?

Bernie, as of today nationally, has an eight point lead in African American voters. His vote in Iowa among Hispanic voters was overwhelming. What are you talking? Like, Casey, I'm sure, considers herself a very serious journalist, and yet it's obviously false. All of the data contradicts it, and yet there will be no correction, there will be no apology, there will be no learning, there'll be nothing. Yeah, so Buttigieg for a while was getting 0% of the black vote in South Carolina as an example.

And it's not just because he doesn't have name recognition, although that's an important part. And they should, to be fair to Buttigieg, they should mention that context. But he has a terrible record in South Bend. And almost every black leader in South Bend has come out and said, yeah, he fired the black fire chief. He demoted the black police chief. He nearly wiped out the black police force to read Michael Harriet at the route. and Jonathan Larson here at TYT to see the story. So there's some real issues there, massive issues, right?

Bernie, on the other hand, is not beating Buttigieg by eight points. He's beating Biden, the second closest competitor, by eight points among minority voters. Number one in the country. Number one. Number one in the country. But Casey Hunt says, well, he has a problem with minority voters like Buttigieg does. No ability to appeal to people of color. No ability.

He's nothing. You know what that is, it's alternative facts, it just is. So Trump does it from a right wing perspective, and the mainstream media does it from an establishment perspective. But if you ever tell them that, they get so offended. They say, oh, look at these monsters online, saying that we're not doing good journalism. That might hurt my career, two to five percent. Actually, don't worry, it'll help your career.

If we criticize you, you'll probably get a promotion, okay? Oh, you were wrong on air, and the young Turks pointed it out, and they're 100% Right, congratulations, you're now an anchor, okay? You're moderated debate. Yeah, yeah, you're immediately moderating a debate. So not only, but they do, they genuinely think like, oh my, that might hurt my career a little but they are so rude online. You called Bernie Sanders supporters Nazis, but you're not rude.

You pretended that Bernie Sanders has no minority support when he has the most minority support. But that's not rude, that's not character assassination. But when we say, hey, could you please actually get the facts right? They're so offensive. They're so offensive. I was busy making millions of dollars as a journalist on air. And now I might only make two and a half million instead of $2.6 million next year.

You guys are so offensive to us. Like, it bothers me because I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter. But I'm just white Bernie Sanders supporter. I can't speak for anyone. But I would, I'm trying to imagine that if you're not white and you're a Bernie Sanders supporter, Casey Hunt just like threw a tarp over millions of people. He had no appeal. So all of you who will be watching this right now and might be mad at us about it, you don't exist.

You're literally not out there. It doesn't matter if you're voted for Bernie Sanders, if you donated for Bernie Sanders, you've been falling for years, maybe you're canvassing for him. You're working on his campaign. You're knocking on doors in New Hampshire. You don't exist because he has no ability to appeal to anyone like you. All right. Look, and then when I say you should join us, because without us, all you have is this pulp, pulp, then they turn around and go, are you trying to make money?

Yeah. What do you think your multi-billion dollar media corporation does? You guys make money off of maintaining the current corrupt system, and you get all those money in politics ads, you get all the drug company ads, et cetera. So t-y-t.com slash join without independent media, all you have is manufacturing consent, propaganda garbage that you're seeing on cable news. By the way, I'm going to remind you one more time. That's MSNBC, not Fox News and not CNN.

That's what Washington considers the liberal station, the progressive station, the one attacking Bernie Sanders 24-7 and lying about him non-stop. I know, I know, we gotta play one more just because I want to see your reaction to it. So this, I apologize for the cell phone quality of the video, but this is, I believe it's from last night on MSNBC talking about what might happen in New Hampshire. The real thing that I'm looking for tonight is of course that key third place finish, which we were just talking about there in the break. Amy Klobuchar, the momentum is on her side.

This would be a huge, huge victory for Amy. In fact, I would almost argue that a third place finish for Amy would be strong. and more important than a first place finish for Bernie. It's more important, stronger too. I mean, their own parody, they're self-parody. I mean, at this point, the Onion couldn't write it like that. Seriously, she just said it was straight face, you just saw it. Well, a strong third place finish would obviously be more important than the first place finish.

So I crunched some numbers, I had a one and I had a three. And I don't know, it seems like there's something there. Can Andrew Yang help us with this math? I honestly don't know. What do you, what, like, we know, we know going back how many different races, like you can't win in the Democratic primary if you don't win Iowa in New Hampshire, that's a pattern that'll get broken any day now, I know, but the idea that now it's been 100% flipped. Third place, because it's not out of that Loserville first and second place, is the strongest

position. Who cares about the first place? Well, of course. When the mainstream media for a year straight was saying that Bernie Sanders couldn't possibly win, they meant he couldn't possibly come in third, the vaunted third place that they were all competing for. Remember, and everybody was campaigning in New Hampshire, please vote for me third. Yeah.

Please don't let me come in first or second, because that's totally irrelevant, okay? Bernie historically does have, especially in this race, a hard time coming in third. You know, he's raised the most money, you know, the most money from women in this race as well, you know, he's leading the national polls now, the most non-white supporters. Like, come on, Bernie, stop trying so hard. Please, we need you to come in third so you can win. But wait a minute, you mentioned Andrew Yang, but by their logic there, wouldn't the sixth place finisher be better off than the third place finisher?

Twice as good. How far do we go? Okay, wait a minute, I hadn't thought about the ninth place finisher. Here comes Michael Bennett. They say it with a straight face. Yeah, yeah. Quick hypothetical. If coming in third, it ends up being Bernie stronger, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, could you imagine if Bernie came in third? You know what they would say? He's done. He's done. I mean, who comes in third? Third is for losers. How could you possibly come in third? You're crazy. They would be like, Chris Madison would be like third. No, Bernie come down, Bernie. Yeah. I doubt it. I doubt it.

So imagine if Globuchar wins, right? They're like, oh, that's disappointing. We were hoping she'd come in third. And look, if she comes in third, that's better than I would have predicted, yes. And if she someone wins, that's huge. You know why? Because first is best. Yeah.

All right, guys, look, by the way, we get it. If she beats Biden, that's devastating for Biden, it's good for her. And then she would be among the conservative candidates like Buttigieg and Klobuchar coming out of New Hampshire. You could make that point. There's nothing wrong with that point. You just can't say that it would be better than finishing first. After, first of all, because math, and secondly, because you just spent a year telling us how important it is coming in first in New Hampshire until you saw the polling where

Bernie's coming in first and all of a sudden not important at all. How could they not see their own bias? They're the most biased people in America. They might be, would you like the sort of punchline to all these setups that we've had? This is not a punchline yet? No, no, well, there's been a few, but let's go one more video, I would say that this might be the punchline. Okay. I want to say the reason I went for Bernie is because of MSNBC and very, go on.

I think it is completely cynical to say that he's lost 50% of his vote from the last time when there were two candidates. Now there are multiple wonderful candidates who would be great presidents and people that we could, I think that we can unify and get behind. But the kind of the stop Bernie cynicism that I heard from a number of people, I watch MSNBC constantly. So I heard that from a number of commentators. And so that just, it made me angry enough. I said, okay, Bernie's got my vote. Oh, yes. I love her.

That's my new favorite person on planet Earth. Watch TYT. But yeah, you love her. And by the way, like she's not some crazy digital brown shirt. She said, I'm voting for Bernie, but I think there are multiple wonderful candidates who'd be great presence. I'm inclined at this point to not even agree with her on that, but she's very like, she has multiple people that hypothetically she could support, but she's been driven to this point

because of the obvious bias. And like, so that's Ari Melbaugh, right? Ari Melburgh's there, and he seems like a perfectly nice guy in his show. But he's like, go on, joke. Like, okay, no, but you go on. Go on and listen. And I'm not saying he's as bad as the other ones that we've been showing or whatever, But like, there is something to be learned here.

And I know that you have a massive financial incentive to never learn it. And if you learn it, to never acknowledge it. But there is a reason that people don't like you and don't trust you. And you reinforce it on a daily basis with, we showed you a few clips. These all came out in like the last 16 hours. What if we extended our reach back a week? Yeah, so look, that's a person who says she watches MSNBC all the time. So I'm gonna presume that she's not necessarily watching TV.

Just without us even saying anything, without any prodding. She watched on her own was like, oh no, they're obviously biased against Bernie. To the point where it's making me mad, even though I like the other candidates. And it's made me so mad that I'm gonna vote for Bernie because the liberal channel is so obviously biased against them. That's amazing. Wow, okay. Now imagine for a second that everybody in the country got to watch MSNBC and Fox News and

CNN got to watch all of them, but they got to watch TYT equally. I think Bernie would win by what, by 20 points, 30 points. So I'm being 100% serious. Look, already a lot of people watch this and hey, look at that, he has a huge lead among young people. Okay, so, but guys, if you heard that Medicare for All takes away your insurance from those, all three agree, right, of those cable channels, then you turned to us and you found that yeah, it takes away your private insurance and gives you better insurance with expanded

coverage. If you heard from them that Medicare for all costs $32 trillion, and then you turn to us and you found out, oh, but it also, what they didn't tell you is it saves $34 trillion. And on and on and on. If you heard from them that Bernie doesn't do well with minorities, and then we actually showed you the polling where he is the top candidate with minorities. And the list goes on. If the whole country saw that, progressives would be crushing as it is.

As it is that he's about to win, right? But imagine what a difference it would be if you didn't just have propaganda against progressives. If you actually represented our point of view, not more than others, just equally. If we were one quarter of the media in this country, it'd be good night, Irene. They wouldn't stand any chance at all. And that is part of the reason why they never let progressives on TV. TYT.com slash join. I mean, thank God for the internet, because if the internet didn't exist, there wouldn't

be shows like ours, and the other shows in the TYT network, and you wouldn't be able to get this information, and all you would have is the propaganda on television. And I think the internet has made a giant difference, and that's why it looks like Bernie Sanders is on the edge of victory now, even overcoming all of that propaganda stacked against them. Yeah. First break? Yes, we'll be right back.

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There's a lot of comments like that. Thank you, guys. I love you. Megan E. says, happy birthday to John's wife. Oh, that's very nice of you. That is nice. For her. Craig, Cufflae says, I love that lady.

Find her, Jank. I assume you don't mean John's wife, that you mean the MSNBC woman there. I love her, but yeah. Okay. She does watch TYT. I know. Hey, Emma's in New Hampshire. Maybe she will find her.

In fact, Emma will be on our New Hampshire coverage, so don't miss that. David Day and also with us, it's going to be a great, great night. In terms of coverage, we don't know what's going to happen. Of course, we just know the polling. Bjorn Dotto writes in, I'm 59 years old. I don't need Chuck Todd calling me a brown shirt. I'm not an online mob. I'm someone who has lived in Sweden and knows firsthand what Bernie's trying to bring to the U.S.

Organic win your full name. You've got to help me out on that. Anyway, he writes in. MSNBC at all are the real online mobs. On YouTube super chat, if Anna ruled the world rights in. She'd take time off. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, I like that. Oh, nice one. If Anna ruled the world from Munich, Germany at the Munich Security Conference. Anyway, I emailed MSNBC and asked them to report only facts. Well, I love that you did that. And decognition says the establishment floods average people with their perspective 24-7, And three weeks left until Super Tuesday, if you don't knock doors on phone bank to share your perspective, who will? Yes, every vote matters.

This is time to get involved on the post game, which is just for members, and the first comments I read were all members. TYT.com slash join to become a member. Or you can do a YouTube channel membership for the Young Turks by clicking the join button down below the video if you're watching on YouTube. Anyway, I did a story about me phone banking for Bernie Sanders. It was both really interesting and really funny. So if you're a member or become a member, go check that out. It's the post game about Kubuku. Oh, yes.

And I probably should talk to them in the break, but do you want to read? Do you want to know? Okay. Well, we're going to have some exciting news that was announced earlier today, but later on, so you're going to have to keep watching. Lucky you. Okay, with that, why don't we jump into the breaking news? Yeah.

Okay. We've got some dramatic breaking news from the developing story involving Roger Stone's sentencing, if it happens, and that is that Aaron Zelensky, a Justice Department prosecutor who asked a judge to sentence Roger Stone to between seven to nine years in prison, has withdrawn from the former Trump aide's case after reports that officials would seek to reduce the sentencing recommendation. So Aaron Zelensky put that out, we're going to walk through the timeline later. But then once the DOJ and Trump started to put pressure saying, no, we're not going to do what federal guidelines say we should, he has backed off. And he was the first.

Now, four, the four attorneys who had signed the initial note, after all this new pressure, have all apparently withdrawn or resigned or been forced out from the case. So in politics, there's this event known as a Saturday night massacre when Nixon kept buying one person after another after they wouldn't do his political bidding and cover up his case. Now, in the Trump administration, there is no such thing. There is no one with principle. So when, as you'll see in this story, when Trump says don't follow the law,

the Department of Justice says absolutely, sir, because it's led by the lawless Bill Barr, who should be disbarred as soon as he's out of office. Anyway, we'll tell you all the details of that. In this case, it's kind of like a Tuesday afternoon suicide rather than massacre, because, and I fear putting that kind of context in a political story. But the bottom line is they were not fired. All four of these lawyers actually had principles and said, we are not going to break the law and twist the law and bend the law to benefit Donald Trump

politically. We prosecuted the case, we were right. If you're trying to fix the case afterwards for political reasons, we resign, we're gone. That is wonderful act of courage, bravery, and they should be heartily applauded for that and eventually one day promoted. Yeah, exactly. You know what I liked about what you just said there? you use an analogy and then realize it had bad connotations, so you corrected yourself in real time.

Chuck Todd could learn something from that. But anyway, yes. And so look, there's a couple points that I do want to focus on here. So just in case you didn't know, initially, Justice Department prosecutor suggested seven, nine years. That's just federal guidelines. I know that if you've watched Sean Hannity's show, he's freaking out over it, they're all acting like this is insane. That's just what you get for the crimes that he committed. He was convicted in November of seven counts of obstructing and lying to Congress and witness tampering related to his contacts with the Trump campaign regarding WikiLeaks in 2016.

The government wrote at the time that such a sentence, 7 and 9 years, would accurately reflect the seriousness of his crimes and promote respect for the law. Because we can't have a functioning system if powerful people are able to obstruct justice, tamper with witnesses, knowing that even if they're charged with something, in the end, the president is going to end up getting them off. They need to pay some sort of price to stop everyone from doing that. But look, John, sorry to interrupt for a second. I just want to give people context. So seven to nine years of federal guidelines, and I trust their judgment, especially even what they've done afterwards, right? But you could actually get 20 years for witness tampering.

So I don't want anybody thinking like, oh, they were throwing a book at him and they were giving him the maximum. No, they came with a moderate proposal within the federal guidelines. And so, of course, since Roger Stone was protecting Donald Trump, that he's as capo, the head mobster complains about it. And that's why these four lawyers have resigned. But they were not throwing the book at him. This is what the federal guidelines say is, I don't want to say a minimum, but it's nowhere near the maximum. Yeah.

Yeah. And even that not maximum was met by a Trump tweet that says, this is horrible and very unfair situation. The real crimes were on the other side as nothing happens to them. Cannot allow this miscarriage of justice? I've got a different one in mind. And so we don't know exactly what's going on behind the scenes. It's possible at this point that Donald Trump doesn't really need to get involved beyond tweeting. William Barr knows why he was chosen.

He knows why he's there. And so he's going to jump on this sort of thing. But it is also possible that Donald Trump is getting involved. And here's the thing. This whole thing looks insane to rational people. that this guy committed crimes. He, because he's not, Trump might actually go to jail, as so many of Trump's closest confidants and associates have.

But Trump feels like, well, I mean, I've committed crimes in, you know, full open view, and I was just acquitted, I could shoot someone in the face, they wouldn't do anything about it. So why shouldn't he do this, honestly? They pushed out Vindman and his brother. And now he's saying the military should look at disciplinary action against Lieutenant Colonel Vindman as well. Him being fired isn't enough.

he also should be attacked by the military. And so remember like during the trial and immediate after when we were talking about Trump is looking for revenge, all of his associates were saying that? Like that wasn't just like speculative talk. Like this is what it looks like. He's going to protect the people that have been good to him. And he's going to viciously attack till the end of their days the people who have turned on him by acknowledging the truth.

So just a quick note on Vindman. He technically was not fired. He was removed from the White House. he could get another job in the army, but we don't know what's going to develop with that yet. So in terms of this situation, look at the way that Trump frames it. He says, well, you know, they didn't arrest people on the other side. But that's not how it works.

You betray your own sense of what so-called justice is. When you say, I don't care what the law was, I want you to round up my political enemies. And since you didn't do that, I want you to let go of my capos who are bringing the law on my behalf. No, this isn't like, oh, let's arrest people equally on the Democratic and Republican side. The question is, did they break the law? If a Democrat broke the law, you know the Young Turks, if you watch it at all. We would definitely be in favor of them going to jail, right? We're honest and principle don't like these guys.

Look, now I'm gonna get to the funniest part of all. So, well, you wanna tell him what Bill Barr said to go along with Donald Trump, and then I'll give you the explanation to the Justice Department. We're talking about the update to the- Yes. Okay, so the Justice Department announced that they were going to revise the recommendations for sentencing. Department leadership found the recommendation to be extreme and excessive and disproportionate to Stone's offenses, although, as we pointed out, it could have been worse. DOG leaders expect a new filing to be submitted to clarify the department's position. It'll be an interesting clarification if the number suddenly is much smaller or not existent.

Yeah. That's not a clarification. That's just changing it. So that's why the just department lawyers resigned. Because number one, they just got thrown under a bus. After spending a lot of time on this case and the government's resources and being right and getting a conviction, their own boss turns on them and says, oh, what they did was extreme and terrible, right? And you saw the court.

Not only that, they say, now you must reduce the sentence, even though you know it's not the right thing to do, and it's obviously political. So they're like, no, we're not going to do that, we'd rather not have a job. and we'd rather be driven from government and not do the thing that we love to do, and that's our career, then go along with your political and outrageous order. So men of character. Now, here's a hilarious part. So the Justice Department sees obviously Trump's tweet, and they're like, yes, sir, of course, sir.

We would never punish any of your criminal associates, sir, right? But no, no, Carrie Kupeck, a Justice Department spokeswoman, says the White House did not communicate with agency on Monday or Tuesday, except for that public tweet to the whole world. Okay, so it's a miscarriage of justice. Yeah, okay, no, no, no, she says, and that the decision to reverse course was made right before Donald Trump's tweet. Damn, I thought we had him. Oh my God, well, hey, look, if he came in right before the tweet, I guess there's

another one you can do about it, it must have been independent. It's preposterous, they went to court, they said he should get seven to nine years, they They went through the regular process. Trump tweets about it in the middle of the night right afterwards. They say, oh, sorry, never mind, rip up the law, who cares? We have a lawless president, let's just make sure that his buddy gets off. And then they go, oh, no, we had made that decision independently. If you had made it independently, why did you submit the court papers in the first place?

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murderers and murder victims. It's one at all. You can just take the description, Xerox, and pass it out for all the cops. They are male, minorities, 15, 25. That's true in the earth, it's true in virtually every city. And that's where the real time, you've got to get the guns out of the hands of people

to get killed. She's done, if you want to spend the money, a lot of cops in the street, put those cops, we have the crime is, which means in the minority neighborhoods. So this is one of the unaffected and intended consequences is people say, oh my God,

you are arresting kids for marijuana that are all minorities. Yes, that's true. Why? Because we throw all the cops in the minority gave us. Yes, that's true. Why do it? Because that's all the environment. And the way you get the guns on their kids' hands is to throw them against the wall and pristice. And then they start, they say, oh, I don't want to get caught so they don't bring the gun.

They may still have it not as nice as in the ice cream ones. But that video was found by Benjamin Dixon, great work and finding that. Yeah, thanks for bringing that story. That's a great story. So I don't know if he left out any racial stereotypes. I think he might have hit them all. So I mean, why do we go harass minorities all the time? Because they're the ones doing the crime, you know how they are.

Why don't we bother white people? Because white people are innocent. Really? All right, hold on. Let's look at the facts now. So of the people that were stopped in frisk, 88% were blacks and Latinos. Well, okay, maybe they were committing crime at such an unbelievable rate, okay? So how many of them were found to have a weapon?

Because he said it's all about the guns, you know? Because these black people, all they have is guns, right? And so even if we don't find it, they have one, it's at home, they all have it, you know how blacks are, right? This guy's running for the Democratic candidacy. He sounds more like a Republican up until recently. Oh, right, that's because he was. Yes.

Okay, so of the people who were stopped and frist who were black, how many of them had guns? 1.1%. Okay, but wait, wait, wait, let's talk about whites, because poor whites, I don't know why we're ever stopping them. By the way, there is tape of police departments, also you can see them, Benjamin Dixon's thread of police officers telling the people that report into them, I only want you to target young blacks and Latinos and males. That's it, young black and Latino males. I don't want you wasting your time on white people.

Okay, so what percentage of white people had a gun? 1.7%. 50% higher than the percentage of blacks. It's a waste of time. So when they actually, a few times they stop white people. Turns out they find guns on them, more than they do on black people. Did that make them change their mind at all? Nope, the racial stereotypes still exist.

Well, if we found it on the white guy, he must not have been. If we didn't find them on the black guy, he must have it at home. Oh, for Christ sake, man. Unreal. So in every one of these cases, here I'll give you a couple more facts. Do you know that when you look at the arrest? seizure of an illegal weapon or a fine, that's what I mean by 88%. 88% of the time, they found nothing at all, nothing at all.

I'm sorry, I should clarify, earlier I said the 88% number, no, the number of people stopped who were blacks and Latinos were higher, I think it was about 94%, okay? But 88% of the time, they found nothing at all. They couldn't even find anything to find them on like jumping at turnstile or something really simple like that, totally and utterly innocent. So, how about the number of times they found a gun during the Bloomberg era when they did these stop-infresive minorities? They would find a gun, so there's a little different number than the one that's earlier.

During the Bloomberg era, 14 out of every 10,000 stops. So they almost never found a gun. But they arrested a lot of people for a fair violation. To be fair, that's $2.75. Now, why would you go after that? The crime is where the blacks do the crime. Blacks do the crime, okay, John, not good white people in New York. I mean, like, if you went down to Wall Street, you wouldn't find any criminals, right?

No, no, not $2 criminals anyway. No, so, oh wait, how much of their crimes cost us back in 2008? Oh, right, $700 billion. And during the 2008 crash caused 100% by Wall Street, we lost 8.8 million jobs, 8.8 million. A million Americans suffered. But there are no criminals on Wall Street. They did fraud. It's in the emails.

In the emails, they talk about scamming their own customers. They talk about being on both sides of the trade so that everybody gets screwed except them. That was all exposed in the Senate. But no, poor white folks working on Wall Street making millions of dollars while the rest of us suffer doing criminal fraud. No, there are no criminals on Wall Street. The blacks and Latinos do the crime. And Mike Bloomberg told me the stats don't back it up at all, doesn't back it up at all, but it doesn't matter, it must be true.

Look at him, they're black and Latino. This guy wants to be the Democratic nominee. You must be joking. Oh, but that's okay because the mainstream media has been exposing this day and night. They have, they have, they have. But bear in mind in that, he also talks about the concern over drugs and Wall Street traders would never do drugs. So, look, this video has now come out.

Benjamin Dixon found it. They had a guest on CNN that said, well, because he's a Bernie supporter, that calls all this into question. That's not how video works. Doesn't call it in a question at all. He said it, right? Did Benjans say it? No, no, no, Bloomberg said it, okay.

Did he fake it? Nobody's saying he faked it, so how can it be called into question? You can acknowledge it. Like when we see something that's obviously opposition research, we'll acknowledge it. But that doesn't stop it from being true, as convenient as that would be. Now, well, to be fair, you say 2 plus 2 equals 4, but a lot of Bernie supporters agree with you. So I'm not sure it actually equals 4.

Some people say 3 is better than 1. And by the way, I could do my own math, but I'm not going to. If a Bernie supporter says it, it must not be true. Clearly. So how about you verify the video? By the way, Bloomberg acknowledged the video, so he himself verified it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Bernie Sanders supporters. So don't believe your lying eyes or your lying ears are beloved.

Our beloved Mike Bloomberg, who by the way made all of his money on Wall Street, he must be, he's gonna rescue us, he's gonna rescue all the millionaires on TV, go get him, Mike. So he did respond to that video coming out with a tweet said, I have apologized for taking too long to understand the impact of stop and frisk on black and Latino communities. I inherited stop and frisk. Get out of there. In an effort to stop gun violence, it was overused. I cut it back by 95%.

Not true. I should have cut it back suit. Yeah, but he tweeted it, so it's true. Okay, so did he inherit Stop and Frisk? I love how these rich guys have to use the terminology of inheriting. It was set up before him. But let's talk about, like, he pitches it as he came in, it was already there, and oh, he worked hard to get those numbers down.

Let's look at the actual numbers year by year. So let's bring up this chart, and you're going to see, you're going to want to look at that stop and frist number in red. So he comes in literally on the second data point on that red line. When it's initially it's at 98,000. So he comes in, it almost hits 200,000. And then year by year, as he is in charge and hypothetically could have done something about this, the number skyrocket to nearly 700,000 individuals in a single year.

And then it does drop very quickly. When it was ruled unconstitutional for racial discrimination, something that he he opposed and whined about in the media for literally years afterward, saying it was insane that they stopped it, how could they have done it? It was so awesome and successful, but he cut it by 95%, and he just inherited it. And super important point. The Supreme Court or the courts in New York ruled it unconstitutional back in 2013. The audio you just heard from Mike Bloomberg was in 2015.

Important note. So he already knew all the stats. He knew it didn't work. He knew it was unconstitutional. The only time he ever disavowed it was right before he started to run. That's literal. Like almost a day before he started to run for the Democratic nomination. He's like, oh yeah, I guess there's blacks and Latinos in Democratic Party.

That sucks. Yeah, all right, I didn't mean to arrest all of you. Of course I did. I've been defending it ever since. And even after I knew it didn't work, and even after I knew it was unconstitutional. I want to play one other video, though, because Benjamin did a great job in finding that. But for a long time, all that people wanted was for him to acknowledge that some groups were being stopped too often.

And we did find a video, thankfully, where he acknowledged that. Just keep saying, oh, it's a disproportionate percentage of a particular ethnic group. That may be, but it's not a disproportionate percentage of those who witnesses and victims describe as committing the murder. In that case, incidentally, I think we disproportionately stop whites too much and minorities too little. So there is a group that is being overstopped. We just told you when they stop whites, they had guns on them at about 50% more than Blacks did.

But he can't get it out of his mind. White people are innocent and black people are guilty. The part that really got me, and that's why I'm about to repeat it for the third time, is even if they're not guilty, the gun must be at home. Because by definition, if you're black, you're guilty. I already told him. And what he said word for word in the first audio there that you heard, young black and Latino males of a certain age group, he said you could Xerox it and give it to all the police departments.

He did. In the videos you see from the police talking about it internally. They say only arrest black and Latino kids in this age group. They did Xerox it. And they told everyone to harass minorities, even though they knew the overwhelming percentage of them were innocent. Even though they knew that whites, when stopped, had committed more crimes, not less crimes. Look, you've seen some of these stats before, and they know them, they knew them before

stop and first given began. Whites and blacks spoke marijuana at the same rate. are arrested at 3.73 times more, almost four times more than whites. Why? Because they send all the cops to the black and Latino areas. And they never send them to the white areas. And then they go, can you believe how blacks are criminals? No, it's disgusting.

It's repulsive. And this is exactly what's wrong. This is systemic racism defined. And everyone on TV thinks this guy is their night in shining armor. And that while, meanwhile, they attacked Bernie Sanders Day Night, just earlier today, Casey Hunt said, oh, Bernie Sanders doesn't have support in the minority community. When he's the number one candidate that minorities prefer, lie after lie after lie to attack Bernie Sanders and every progressive and then lies to help Mike Bloomberg, even though, my God, if Bernie

Sanders had done this when he was mayor of Burlington, could you imagine? They would have ripped him to shreds. And it would be earned. And it would be right. It would be right to do it. Yeah, it's not, this isn't like, look, individual comments can be horrible. This isn't an individual comment, this isn't an individual action, this isn't pushing for a policy. This is a like more than a decade long crusade to make this the way things are.

And he's gonna be the Democratic nominee maybe. Like, do you remember in Arizona when they wanted to just stop, you know, anyone who's brown and get their papers because the presumption is that they've broken a law and how the country rightfully lost their mind over that when the Republicans wanted to do that? Yeah, he wanted to do that in New York. He did it, literally, for years. Like, Nina Turner today called for him to drop out of the race. She's 100% right. Like, you can't be disqualified for everything, but if anything would disqualify you in a Democratic primary, how could you possibly be running with this as your past?

that you begrudgingly apologized for like 63 days ago after inflicting it on people for years and years and years. Del Smear Bernie on something he might or might not have said, depending on the context, back in the 1970s. But this is not what Bloomberg said. You see it on the audio and the videos. It's about what he did. He did stop and frisk.

He stopped hundreds of thousands of blacks and Latinos and harassed them and racial targeted them. That action is a million times more important, yet the media does not treat it that way at all, because they're the most biased people in America. Look, he's gonna possibly be on the debate stage in a couple of weeks. Rightfully, Pete Buttigieg got some hard questions for his time in South Bend, his time there. If they don't destroy, and when I say they, I mean the moderators and all the candidates, if they don't destroy Mike Bloomberg, then, I mean the fixes in from the moderators at the very least, that they must at that point see that he's the only one

at that point that can come in and stop Bernie Sanders. And we're gonna line up behind a guy that if Donald Trump said one-tenth-thous, and he has, and we're gonna get to that, they would nuke him from orbit. But he's gonna be the Democratic nominee, hypothetically. Or at least they want him to. He's not gonna be- I'm not saying he's gonna be, but they want him to be. Oh, they want him to be so bad, it hurts. Every single day, 10 times a day, there's another guest or host on MSNBC saying, oh, how can

we stop Bernie and make sure Mike wins? I think Mike can win. Oh, he's such a great billionaire. He's so good to the rest of us millionaires. Yeah. Okay, I do eventually want to get this, so there's a lot of other stories to get to. So we're gonna go to another break, but stick around way more to get to this. And we'll have exit polls soon, guys, because polls have now closed in New Hampshire.

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