The Young Turks - TYT Extended Clip - January 2nd, 2020

Episode Date: January 3, 2020

Julian Castro has ended his 2020 presidential campaign. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more... about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Thank you. All right, back on the Young Turks from the New Year, a break, I guess, I mean, in the habit of saying back on the Youngters, Jane Cougar, Anna Cusparian, Happy New Year, everybody. Happy new decade. May it be an actual good one. Wouldn't that be amazing if we had a good decade? I'm having a good year so far. Oh, is that right?
Starting point is 00:01:04 Okay, we're off to a good start. Started reading the subtle art. Hmm. The book that you talk about all the time, but I can't say the full title on the show. Is that a good book? It's an excellent book. It's the only self-help book I like because it comes from a very pessimistic perspective on humanity, which is the right perspective to have.
Starting point is 00:01:22 It was helpful to me too. I mean, this is a random plug, but subtle art of not giving a, okay? Yeah. Check it out. All right. ShopTy.com has several books, including from our guests, including Ryan Grimm's great book, we've got people. So lots of stories today, a lot of folks dropping out, you'll see you in a second.
Starting point is 00:01:40 A lot of campaign news, Biden, Bernie, et cetera. And then of course you can't go without some Trump news in the show, obviously. But since this is our first minute in the first new year, I'm just going to quickly say 2020 is everything. Okay? It's everything. Yep, you're right. So everything will be decided in 2020 and then we'll either have pessimism for the rest
Starting point is 00:02:06 of a long time or we'll have optimism and we'll have hope, not only hope, we'll be in charge. So meaning Bernie Sanders winning the presidency on and on and on. So it's everything and speaking of which a little bit later in the show update on our climate reporter that I think you guys are going to love, strike one for optimism. All right. And one other announcement before we get to our stories, you should be working with a financial institution that actually wants to do good things with your money that will not invest in the fossil fuel industry.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And that financial institution is Aspiration. So if you wanna learn more, go to aspiration.com slash TYT, where you can store your money in an ethical way. All right, so let's get to some of the news today. Julian Castro has announced that he is suspending his campaign for president. He has decided to end his presidential bid following a crowded Democratic primary, as we all know, where he failed to garner enough financial support or enough support in the polls. And he released a video explaining this in a little more detail.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Take a look. It's time for the Democratic Party to change the way that we do our presidential nominating process. I'm so proud of the campaign we've run together. We've shaped the conversation on so many important issues in this race, stood up for the most vulnerable people, and given a voice to those who were often forgotten. But with only a month until the Iowa caucuses, and given the circumstances of this campaign season, I've determined that it simply isn't our time. So today it's with a heavy heart and with profound gratitude that I will suspend my campaign for president. So he shared that video on Twitter and he also included a tweet that read, it's with profound gratitude to all of our supporters that I suspend my campaign for president today.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I'm so proud of everything we've accomplished together. I'm going to keep fighting for an America where everyone counts. I hope you'll join me in that fight. Now he was the head of HUD under the Obama administration. And to be quite honest with you, that's nothing to write home about, especially with the housing crisis that we have throughout the country, the rise in homelessness. However, I do think that he provided some important points and some important topics when he was on the debate stage.
Starting point is 00:04:24 He really did draw attention to a very real issue we have in America when it comes to police brutality. And he certainly did attack Biden from the left, so I appreciated that as well. So first of goofy points, I like how he suspended his campaign with a smile too. Like, I'm suspending my campaign. I know it's old footage, but it was just a little bit of fun. And I assume that his brother, Joaquin Castro's beard is now also suspended. Because his brother's a US congressman and his campaign manager, they're twins.
Starting point is 00:04:55 And so everybody kept confusing them, especially in the spin room. So his brother grew a beard so they'd stop calling him Julio. That's hilarious. So Joaquin, you get to finally shave your beard, congrats, okay, obviously now the result that you wanted. I'm gonna get into the politics of it in a second, but first, the most important point. He actually did a great job. It's not just whether you win or not, it's what do you do in the campaign.
Starting point is 00:05:25 And Julian Castro pushed the party to the left, and he was fantastic in fighting for expanded liberty for everyone, and that's what progressives do. And so, and he fought for justice, and especially on the issue of immigration, he was more progressive than almost anyone else in the race, and he moved the national conversation, which I think is monumentally important, the most important thing you could do other than winning a presidential campaign. So whereas a lot of people ran on, hey, I'd like to be president, and I have the same exact policies as everybody else in the race, he was bold and he ran with an actual agenda,
Starting point is 00:06:05 and I think he made a difference. Yeah, look, I think that he wasn't my preferred candidate, obviously, I want someone who has a long track record, very consistent track record of progressive ideology and someone who pushes for progressive policies, and that's Bernie Sanders. However, I do think that it's important to note that there are people who might not get our endorsement on that debate stage who bring up important points, right? So look, I've said repeatedly on this show that while I don't have a problem with UBI as part of a more comprehensive economic proposal, I don't agree with the way Andrew Yang
Starting point is 00:06:45 wants to go forward with it, right? However, he brings up all sorts of issues on the debate stage that I absolutely love. And he makes the conversation better, right? Julian Castro did the same thing. There are other candidates who do the same thing. It's not just about having the person you like on that debate stage, it's about having people who bring up important points and move the party to the left. And I think you're right, when it comes to certain issues, whether it's policing in America
Starting point is 00:07:11 or immigration, Julian Castro did bring the party to the left. Yeah, and he also fought really valiantly on reparations as well, made a lot of good points there. And to your point, Anna, another outsider who did a great job. And that was Marianne Williamson. There's a little bit of news about her today. She has apparently fired her national staff. It's probably a prelude to dropping out as well.
Starting point is 00:07:33 But on the debate stage, she made a wonderful point, I thought she made a lot of good points. And there's a lot of snark regarding her because she's spiritual and so at any and the national media is so deeply cynical about everything. So they're like, oh, she's trying to change the world with a positive. Obviously we despise her, right? But she set on the issue, a very serious issue of reparations. A debt is owed. And actually that is both factually true and numerically true.
Starting point is 00:08:01 If you look at the history of what happened with slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, etc. So I thought she made an important contribution, as in Hulian Castro. So I love the outsider voices. Hulian Castro, not really an outsider, but still did a great job of going to the left in this context. Now, to get a little cynical about the political maneuvering, right, because that's also reality, and that's also part of the equation here, he challenged better O'Rourke in the debates. He also challenged Buttigieg and Biden. Now, what that normally means is that he is in the lower tier, and it's not really even
Starting point is 00:08:39 even fair to call him lower tier, he was in the middle tier of candidates. That might mean that you're angling for a vice presidential spot. And the one candidate he almost never criticized and had actually a lot of praise for was Elizabeth Warren. And if you're looking at it just strictly from political point of view, that's a fairly logical play. If I was advising him, just based on politics, I'd probably advise him. I'd probably advise him to do the same.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah, I would actually like to go to the last graphic of this story because it's a tweet that Castro had put out in regard to Elizabeth Warren. And he said, Warren has got a great team over there. She is fantastic. I think she has done a very impressive job on the campaign trail. I think right now she's doing a fantastic job of fusing her biography with her policies. And so, you know, it's funny because I'm usually the type of person who's skeptical of anything that anyone says on social media, especially politicians.
Starting point is 00:09:34 But I didn't think about the possibility of Castro angling for a position in her cabinet if she won. Or VP. Or VP, yes. And why Warren instead of Sanders, for example, if he's going left? Well, Warren is more likely to pick a male VP. Bernie Sanders is more likely to pick a female VP. They're both probably going to look at minorities, not necessarily, but that certainly would
Starting point is 00:09:56 be something they would consider. So Julian Castro would be perfect for Elizabeth Warren running mate. And so him, you know, heading in that direction rhetorically during his run is logical. Look, if it was because he didn't mean his positions, then I would be very much against it, right? But if he means it and then he angles for something that's logical politically, I can live with that. As long as your policies are right and you're driving the conversation in a positive direction, which he clearly was. Yeah, yeah, I see a lot of people responding to his Twitter announcement about his suspension or suspending his campaign with, you should endorse Bernie, right?
Starting point is 00:10:38 And then I'm like, is that a possibility? Maybe. I mean, who knows? Well, I mean, a lot of the folks who dropped out eventually are likely to endorse people. So, you know, if I was him, and all I cared about was politics, I wouldn't do that yet. because he's probably still angling for Warren. And if he's going to endorse anyone, it would probably be her. But at this point, Bernie's leading and Warren isn't.
Starting point is 00:11:04 So if all you care about is the politics, you'd hold a little longer. Yeah. All right. We have all sorts of election-related news today. We're going to take a very brief break. Actually, it's not going to be very brief. It's going to be as long as all of our breaks are, about four minutes. But when we come back, we have more news for you, including Bernie Sanders,
Starting point is 00:11:25 killing it when it comes to fundraising, and the way the media is covering it. I mean, you can guess. So we're going to go after them on that. I love that story. Love it. All right. We'll be right back. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-Ing the Republic, or UNFTR. As a Young Turks fan, you already know that the government, the media, and corporations are constantly peddling lies that serve the interests of the rich and powerful.
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Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah, I hear you on that, but you know what? there's some chance, again, that 2020 could be an awesome year and perhaps not be full of dog crap for the first time in a long, long time. So I think you should dare to be a little hopeful this year. I'm not saying it's definitely going to turn out that way, but if we work super hard, it really might. Yeah, my hope really hinges on how aggressively progressives are willing to fight. And the fight doesn't just include defending the candidate you prefer, Bernie Sanders, for the congressional candidates you prefer. It's also about not allowing corporate media to distract you with the smears against people
Starting point is 00:14:01 that you would typically like, right? And the nonsense propaganda about electability. I mean, I wanna, you know what, I wanna talk about that a little bit more in the post game today. So t.y.t.com slash join to talk about that. All right, Gabby Marita says, Hulian Castro is the only candidate in the debate so far, bold enough to point out that Joe Biden is going senile. I know it costs him pretty severely in the polls, but I'm still really glad that he did. because it's obvious.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Look, I don't know about senile. And I do know that Biden does have some issues that you see popping up on camera from time to time. I don't know how much it costs William Castro, but I do want to talk about it a little bit in the context of the fundraising story, which we're going to get to in just one second. And then finally, Tom Zawaki on Twitter says, it's really too bad when the amount of money behind you is directly proportionate to your popularity in a political race. Get money out of politics. Well, actually, we're going to talk about that as well. second, because now that Bernie Sanders has raised the most money, some are beginning to say, well, I mean, small dollar donations. Is that really indicative?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Unreal, unreal. All right, Anna, take it away. All right. There's no shortage of online videos featuring Joe Biden saying uncomfortable things, stuff that would typically destroy the candidacy of any other individual. However, there was recently a viral video. that took Joe Biden out of context, it was deceptively edited, and it made it appear as though Biden was arguing that the culture in the U.S. is specifically European culture. It seemed like he was celebrating European white culture in the United States while saying something negative about African American culture. However, the fuller context gives you a completely different sense of what Biden meant
Starting point is 00:15:50 and what he was talking about. Now, I want to be clear, the video that we're about to toss to is the deceptively edited video. I want you to see what it looked like so you get an understanding of why it went viral. Then I'm going to give you the fuller context. Take a look. The culture, our culture, our culture, our culture, it's not important from some African nation or some Asian nation, it's our English jurisprudential culture.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Or European culture. I gotta be honest, I saw that video and I was like, what is he doing? Like why is he doing this? Why does he keep saying things that make him incredibly unelectable in my book, right? But it turns out that it was taken out of context. And so let me give you a little bit of context before we go to the full context of the video. Tommy Christopher over at Mediite wrote, Biden was asked by a woman in the crowd. Could you speak to your work with women and sexual assault, domestic violence, and give us an idea of your vision for that in our country?
Starting point is 00:16:57 Biden launched into a nearly 15-minute response that began with the premise that ending violence against women is about fundamentally changing our culture in America. Biden cited the rule of thumb narrative to describe the tolerance of violence against women in old English common law. Now with that, I'll give you a fuller look into what Biden was talking about. take a look in the late 1300s in England so many wives were being beaten to death by their husbands that the court of common law said because women were considered to be a chattel just like the horse or the or the cows or the animals in the field for real and a man was able to quote chastise his wife but so many were being beat to death that the court ruled in the late 1,300's, that no man could beat his wife with a rod bigger than the circumference of his thumb.
Starting point is 00:17:53 We have a cultural problem, a cultural problem. So when I got to the United States Senate, I started working on the issue of whether or not we can begin to change the weight. And there was a dirty little secret. Those of you who are older know, everybody knew somebody whose wife got slapped around. So he was actually making kind of a bold and courageous point about how the culture of Western culture had created problems. Now, look, for progressives, that's not controversial point. Of course it's true.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And by the way, all cultures have different things that are wonderfully positive and things that are negative. And so heritage by definition doesn't mean something that's positive. could be very, very negative in every culture. And so, but these are things that politicians usually try to avoid, especially more centrist and conservative Democrats like Biden because they don't want to get criticized by the right wing, say, oh, now you're criticizing Western culture, I can't believe it, et cetera. So he was doing the right thing saying, no, look, we have problems with the culture that we inherited and some of these is the domestic violence that he was talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:09 So there's nothing wrong with what he said. He wasn't trying to criticize African or Chinese culture. He was criticizing the culture that created what we have today in this country. And so now, I think when I first saw the story, I didn't bother reading it. And maybe I could be wrong. I saw the headline, but I thought that seems like it's not possible, okay? And I know Joe Biden says some things that seem not possible and then turned out to be true. My radar went off a little bit like, that doesn't look right.
Starting point is 00:19:40 No, no, I hear you. And you should always be skeptical of these like tightly edited videos, especially on platforms like Twitter. As we know, people get taken out of context all the time. And so you should look for fuller context, get a real understanding of what that individual is talking about, especially in politics. Now the one thing I will say though is, while I would be skeptical, I also don't think that anything's impossible with Biden because let's keep it real.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Homeboy was talking about kids sitting in his lap playing with his blonde leg hair in the pool. Yeah, and told a story about corn pop the gangster with no sense of irony or anything along. Those lines talked about how busting is wrong and how he liked working with Trump Thurman who ran out on a segregation stick. So I understand that if anybody was going to make an comment as outrageous as the edited comment sounded, it might have been Biden. But even with him, I would have thought that that was, because it's Steve King-esque. It's so outrageous that it reminds you of extreme right-wingers, and I don't think that Biden is there.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Anyway, but guys, it's really important to, this is a good story to point out that context is always important. And so you should, and I hope that the mainstream media, which leapt to Biden's defense, I think rightfully so, would care about context in all of the presidential candidates. and all of their statements, et cetera. But oftentimes some folks are taken out of context and then you don't get this kind of clarity. And when it's an establishment presidential candidate, you have the media in unison, you know, yelling about context, which is great. I don't want them not to do that, I do want them to do that. That's good journalism.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Please be even handed and do that in other instances when it comes to progressive candidates as well? If the corporate media were as obsessed with getting every story right, especially on progressive candidates as they were with this Joe Biden story, this country would be in a much better place, right? And so look, I have two main points. Point number one is there's no need to take Biden out of context because who he is and what he represents is so antiquated for the Democratic Party that you don't need to do it.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Don't take him out of context, just represent him as he is, because he's not a desirable candidate for many Democrats, okay? So don't buy into this myth that centrism is more electable. That is not the case, and if you look at recent fundraising numbers, there's proof to that, right? So Bernie Sanders is killing it and has beaten everyone when it comes to small dollar donors, right? He's outraised everyone, and the average donation is $18 per individual. Now, with that said though, it's just amazing how quickly the establishment, like the
Starting point is 00:22:37 congressional leadership will jump to Biden's defense. I mean, impeachment was out of the question until Biden's name was mentioned. And all of a sudden, they're like, we need to pursue impeachment. They didn't care about Trump's financial crimes. When it came to defending Biden against Trump, that was when they jumped to action. And when it comes to the establishment media, if Biden is being taken. taken out of context. They can't wait to jump on that story.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And I actually wanna flesh this out in more detail later in the show. I'll do that on my own because I wanna give you specific examples to kind of juxtapose how the media handled this story versus how they've handled a different story. Okay, so I do wanna give you one specific example though. In one of the recent debates, I think it was the last one, PBS debate, Bernie Sanders started answering question about race, why talking about climate change. He was leading up to how it affects minority groups worse. But the moderator in that case cut him off and said, hey, you know, this was a question about race.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And we said live, as we were covering that, they're gonna take him out of context. They're not gonna give the rest of his answer. And then later, as we were covering the post-debate coverage, we showed you articles, including CNN with a big headline saying, Bernie Sanders, answers question about race. and avoids the question and talks about climate change and the moderator busts it, right? So where was everybody jumping to Bernie Sanders' defense? Of course they wouldn't. Not only did they not jump to his defense, they all saw it with their own eyes.
Starting point is 00:24:10 We all watched it together. I mean, if you're a CNN reporter, you obviously watched the debate, you obviously saw the rest of his answer, and you saw where he was going before he was cut off, but they didn't give a context on purpose. By the way, to that point, one of my very good friends who, is a Bernie Sanders supporter, talk to me following that debate and said to me, yeah, you know, it seemed like Bernie wasn't interested in answering the questions that the moderators were throwing to him.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah. And then specifically mentioned the climate change situation, right? And that's how, because most people don't watch all the debates, they see the headlines. And so in this case, somebody that takes Biden out of context, media rightfully jumps in, and goes, no, no, no, wrong, wrong, everybody gets, oh, that was a doctor, video. etc, right? When the Bernie Sanders case, they do the exact opposite. Everybody's like, ha ha, he didn't answer the question about race.
Starting point is 00:25:03 He didn't answer it. Well, that's actually not true. It's the opposite of what's true, because they don't, they not only don't mind smearing progressives and taking them out of context, they enjoy it. They think that that's a great thing to do. All right, look, in terms of Biden, they actually go further. So this is fair. On the other hand, now a lot of these guys are saying, you know, when Biden said that he would pick a, he would
Starting point is 00:25:27 consider being a Republican for vice president. Now a bunch of establishment media people are saying, you're not allowed to quote that. What? What? And they're like, oh no, because he clarified later that he couldn't name one Republican that he would pick at this moment. So you're not allowed to say the earlier part of the statement where he said, oh, I would definitely consider one.
Starting point is 00:25:49 No, no, that's insane. We gave the full context, he did say it. So now you want to disqualify things that he actually did say. in order to protect them because that's incredibly damaging. So there's no end to the bias. And then when you point this out with indisputable facts, they're like, I don't see it, what bias? I don't see it at all, right?
Starting point is 00:26:09 But for us as progressives, we should not stoop to what they do, okay? So I have no idea who, you know, basically unfairly edited this video. No idea if it was a right wing or a Trump supporter progressive, I have no idea, nobody does, right? But if, but don't do that, okay, because we're the good guys. So we do, as Anna pointed out earlier, you don't have to take Biden or anyone else out of context. You can just give the actual quotes. My God, if the media would actually cover what Biden has said and done, we'd be an amazing shape if they're talking about the bankruptcy bill among a thousand other things that we've
Starting point is 00:26:43 mentioned here. But they never ever bring up the bankruptcy bill. Why do students have all this debt that they can't get rid of? A huge part of the reason is because of Joe Biden. Can you just actually quote Joe Biden rather than either take him out of context or weirdly defending him for no reason when you're a reporter? Exactly. By the way, for any of you who are interested in hearing Nina Turner's take on how that debate
Starting point is 00:27:09 question went down for Bernie Sanders, David Dayan actually interviewed her in the spin room on our behalf after the last debate. So check that out, we'll include a link in the description box below. We're absolutely right, Jenk. Look, we need to win based on our ideas and our ideas are popular. There's no need to stoop to the disgusting level of the corporate press, which I'm not buying this whole thing about like, oh, you know, they try to like push this idea of like plausible deniability.
Starting point is 00:27:38 No, no, it's intentional, it's malicious, jank is right, we all sat there and watched the exact same debate and the corporate press decided to portray it the way that they did, right? So intentional, malicious. Yeah, sorry, one last important example of taking things out of context. Almost all the corporate media in unison has now spent untold millions of dollars doing propaganda against Medicare for all by saying it would take away your private insurance. But you want to talk about context, they never finished a sentence, but it would replace it with better insurance that has expanded coverage.
Starting point is 00:28:16 You want to talk about out of context, that's insanity. It's like saying, hey, you know, somebody's taking $10 away from you, but leaving out the part where they give you $20, right? Well, that would be very important context, right? Yes, yes. But the media is lying about that in mass and has been for about a year. And what does that do? It skews the debate, it totally benefits the conservative Democrats and the Republicans and the
Starting point is 00:28:44 insurance companies that are their top advertisers, and it does it on purpose. So let's move on to Bernie Sanders and how he's killing it with fundraising and with his proposals and with everything he does. Except he needs to be more of an attack dog. We'll get to that later. So Bernie Sanders has outraised every single Democratic contender in the primaries. And that's unsurprising when you consider his popularity, when you consider the number of his small dollar donors. And so just to give you some numbers, he has raised a whopping $34.5 million in the 14. quarter of 2019. Again, he outraised every other candidate, and he talks about it a little bit
Starting point is 00:29:25 in this next clip. Take a look. As of yesterday, which was the FEC filing deadline, we have received over 5 million contributions from well over 1.2 million people all across this country. And you know what? That is more contributions from more people than any candidate, not just in this campaign, but any candidate in the history of American politics. And when we talk about the political revolution, we're talking about two basic concepts.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Number one, an agenda that speaks to the needs of working families and is prepared to take on the greed and corruption of the corporate elite. And that's Wall Street and the insurance companies, the drug companies, fossil fuel industry, military industrial complex, prison industrial complex. Okay, that video is everything about Bernie Sanders. So 100%.
Starting point is 00:30:29 No glitz, no glam, his jacket's a little dirty. I got things to do, okay? I'm going to tell you about how we're killing it, small dollar donors, F, the corporate world, we're coming from. He didn't even say it that way. He just said it's so calm. Good point. In a second, we're going to show you a mainstream media person saying that Bernie Sanders
Starting point is 00:30:50 is not about the policies, people like him for other reasons. What other reasons? Jesus Christ. Like, Julian Castro, even in the video announcing he's dropping out, and we like Julien Castro, but he's smiling, it's a wonderfully produced video, I'm dropping out, right? Bernie's like, whatever, I broke a record, this is a giant tire next to me, I'm accidentally covering up the URL of my website that's on the bus. Like, you see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:17 I love him, I love him, because he's got stuff to do, right? It's not about, like, look, we had a long conversation about the Julian Castro story. You should watch it. This is not indicative of the entire conversation. But like, yeah, the victorious music in the background. Like, there's none of that with Bernie. It's about the people. It's about the policies.
Starting point is 00:31:36 It's about fighting for the right reasons. And that's why we love him. Yeah, guys, I think what's being understated in this video as well. Well, certainly in all the media is, he broke a record. He broke a record of number of donations for any presidential candidate up to this point before the primary start. I mean, by a lot, okay. But is he electable, Jank?
Starting point is 00:31:58 I know. How could he have 5 million donations from 1.2 million different people in the country? And we're having a conversation about whether he's electable as opposed to whether he's going to crush everything in his path. And the idea that the prop, it's not even an idea, it's a prop. that the corporate media tells you is, well, you know, we don't know if independence and centrist will support a guy who's for the little guy and for the average American worker. I mean, that's probably not going to work.
Starting point is 00:32:25 So who are you going to support Trump? But on the other hand, Joe Biden, who loves to take money from corporate America, I bet the independents love him. And they say it with a straight face and they 100% mean it. It is unbelievable. So they're going to get into the fundraising numbers of everybody. We're going to explain that in a second. Overall, the context has been like, oh, yeah, okay, I guess Bernie did well, too.
Starting point is 00:32:51 But okay, let's get back to how well Buttigieg did. No, I mean, look, I actually wouldn't mind if that was the way that it were covered. But that is not the way the story is covered. They just bury the lead. A lot of headlines don't even mention how much money Bernie has raised and how he's beaten every other candidate in the field. It's a record. What else do you want from the guy?
Starting point is 00:33:12 And he's breaking his own record. Right. All right. But let's give everybody's numbers. Sure. So coming in at, let me just remind you, Bernie raised $34.5 million in the fourth quarter of 2019. At the same period, you have Buttigieg coming in seconds at 24.7 million. And then Biden is third with 22.7 million.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And then Yang comes in fourth at 16.5 million. Now, I want to be clear, Warren hasn't released her number. numbers yet, so we don't know where she stands. My guess is she did not beat Bernie Sanders, because if that were the case, she would have put that out already. No, no, she's even indicated she's not going to reach the numbers she had in the last quarter where she did really well. So she's going to come in around the Biden Buttigieg numbers, maybe even a little lower and
Starting point is 00:34:00 above Yang. So that's what it looks like right now. Look, and let's be fair about a couple of other amazing stories out of that, okay? So one is Biden's not doing as well as Buttigieg, which is weird. So, and he did better this time around than in the last quarter, but he has had trouble raising money in the context of presidential races and as the leader in the national polling, right? So one important story you get out of that is do the donors see Biden and think there's something wrong here?
Starting point is 00:34:29 100%. Right? So that's a big story that people aren't really talking. They're talking about his donors and how he's not raising enough money. To be fair, they are talking about that, right? But they're not talking about why. What is it that is freaking out the donors that seem up close and in person, right? But other stories that are positive are Buttigieg did raise a lot of money for a little,
Starting point is 00:34:49 for a mayor of a tiny little town in the middle of the country that didn't, wasn't involved in politics. That is a gigantic amount of money he raised. And remember, he didn't run for president before like Bernie Sanders did. He didn't have the donors that Elizabeth Warren had as a senator. So those, it's fair to point that out. It's also fair to point out that a lot of his donors are from wine caves. Yes, right?
Starting point is 00:35:10 And they're big bundlers. And by the way, people mention bundlers and then give their names without giving the context of why they're bundling. A lot of those folks are lobbyists and they represent certain industries. I mean, we're gonna get to a comical complaint about how Bernie Sanders 1.2 million donors are too white, okay, did you see the picture in the wine cave? But yet there's not much discussion about, hey, are the corporate bundlers too white, right? I mean, how's that for irony?
Starting point is 00:35:40 But give credit where credit is due, Buttigieg is apparently amazing at raising money from rich folks. And now some not rich folks as well. Full context. And finally, the other amazing number is Yang's. Oh my God, out of nowhere, Andrew Yang dismissed by all the national media forever and ever and ever, derided throughout even when he was doing well, $16.5 million without ever being in politics, how the hell did he do that?
Starting point is 00:36:09 That should be a story in and of itself where everybody would be like, holy cow, Yang raises 16 and a half million, and I haven't seen that story almost anywhere. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And it's almost as if the corporate press ignoring a candidate works in the candidate's favor, right? Because they did dismiss Yang, but he persisted. And he does bring interesting ideas to the table. So I think this is a fascinating story.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I do have one other thing to bring up, though. Because remember, Warren has made a political calculation that we've talked about on this show before. She's moved a little away from some of the hardcore progressive policies like Medicare for all. Her transition plan for Medicare for all is a disaster. We've talked about that in great detail. And I think that that political calculation was to attract some of the Obama administration
Starting point is 00:36:59 officials who she wanted endorsements from. And hundreds of them have decided to endorse Warren. But it apparently hasn't worked to her favor because she's continuously sliding in the polls. And as we can tell from this story about fundraising, she's not raising as much money as she did previously when she was really pushing for these progressive proposals. Look, this isn't to knock Warren. This is more about showing, providing even more evidence that progressive policies are popular. They're popular.
Starting point is 00:37:31 So if you think that it's a good political strategy to move away from those policies, I think I think we have yet another example of how that's not the case. 100%. And you know, look, that's why we said, I don't know who's advising her and why she's gone in this direction. But so what if you have 200 Obama officials supporting you? What does that get you? Does it get you more money?
Starting point is 00:37:54 Obviously it didn't. Does it get you higher numbers in the polling, which is the most important thing in terms of when you actually go to the election? Are you going to get more votes or not? No, it's hurt you. So I don't know who convinced her that. Oh my God, not Obama, but Obama administration officials, if you get more people in the establishment to back you, it'll work out great for you. How's that working out?
Starting point is 00:38:14 So if you're in the war in camp, be careful about the next set of advice those guys give you. All right, so we're going to take a break. And then when we come back, we're going to compare the way we covered this story to how the corporate press has covered this story. And it is incredible, right? Yeah, you're going to love that slash hate it. At TYT, we frequently talk about all the ways that big tech companies are taking control of our online lives, constantly monitoring us and storing and selling our data. But that doesn't mean we have to let them.
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Starting point is 00:41:58 Until all of a sudden it hit 200. So what happened? Well, Mark Kelman, who's in Hawaii, I don't know why all the great guys are in Hawaii, but anyway was like, I think I'm gonna top it off. No, it's amazing. Okay, so TYT members are unbelievable. So Mark explained in the emails that he wrote, he's like, I'm not a billionaire or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:42:22 He ran a club in Chicago and he tried to make it more sustainable, more environmentally friendly. He was early on tried to end smoking at the club, little by little, et cetera. Just a good guy now working on farming in Hawaii in a way that is environmentally conscious, et cetera. And he's like, but look, I try to, when I give, I try to make a big impact and as much as I possibly can. And thank you, Mark, thank you.
Starting point is 00:42:50 It's your, you guys, generosity is amazing. And look, we feel a really heavy responsibility to deliver for you guys. So this reporter's job is to make sure that we connect the dots and tell you why we're not taking action on climate change. It isn't because not enough Americans agree, three quarters of Americans agree. It's because of the money, it's the money, and we're going to show that to you guys through the reporting and the facts that we're going to bring. I want to give a couple of quotes from Mark. He said, I'm just a guy trying to do my best and give gratitude to the earth for all the gifts that it provides us every day. And he also said, together we're going to bring sanity back to this country.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Power to the people and peace to our planet. Yes. So thank you, Mark. But guys, I also want to thank the 6,337 other donors. Okay. So you see 6338 with Mark being the last one, okay? But every one of you, you gave the most you could within your budget. And that makes just as big of a difference, okay?
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Starting point is 00:44:55 Change is coming. So Mark and all of the rest of you, all the 6,337 others that gave, thank you, thank you, thank you for making that possible. And Mark wouldn't have given that if you hadn't brought it to 183 in the first place, right? So you guys are amazing and we're gonna try to deliver as best as we can for you. And that's why we say we're not the young Turks, you're the young Turks. All right, well, let's talk about corporate funded media and the way that they cover things. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:26 All right, so in the fourth quarter of 2019, Bernie Sanders outraised every other Democratic contender. He raised $34.5 million in one quarter. That's pretty incredible, right? Except all the corporate press has either ignored this story or they've decided to bury the lead or they've decided to insult Bernie Sanders. And a good example of that is actually a conversation that went down on Morning Joe. There was a pundit on by the name of Jason Johnson. He's actually on MSNBC quite a bit, on Joy Reid show quite a bit. And here's what he has to say in the context of a story regarding Bernie Sanders outraising
Starting point is 00:46:08 all the other contenders, by the way. Average donation is $18. Take a look. The idea there was gonna be a progressive battle between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. It was never something to have much resonance with me, because that presumes that Bernie Sanders of supporters are supporting him primarily for policy purposes, and that's not really what's going on. A lot of his core base support like him, because they see him as sort of a political and
Starting point is 00:46:32 democratic savior type character. So he was always going to end out winning out any sort of policy argument because in the end of the day, people like they like Bernie and they're Bernie or bust kind of people. MSNBC and pundits like Jason Johnson always fascinate me because they never have to cite any evidence when they make dumb arguments like that? Where is the evidence that indicates that Bernie Sanders supporters don't like him based on his policy? So like, what do they like him for? His haircut? The way he dresses? Like, what is it that you think that people like about him other than his policies? His policies, that is the meat behind Bernie's campaign. That is what people
Starting point is 00:47:10 love about him. The fact that he actually has the audacity to hope for a better country, you know, to hope for a system that doesn't leave Americans to die because they don't have adequate coverage with their privatized health insurance. So he said near the end there, he was always going to win out because his supporters view him as some sort of savior. So that part has two parts that are amazing. I wanna start with the savior part. Okay, Jason, then why?
Starting point is 00:47:36 Why do they view him as a savior? Is it, again, is it because of his clothing? I mean, is it a random fact? Or could it be that they think he's the only honest politician? Because he doesn't take corporate PAC money, he doesn't take lobbyist money, and he hasn't changed his position in 40 years. Oh, right, the positions. Well, do they agree with the positions or don't they?
Starting point is 00:47:55 If you had a candidate who hasn't changed their position in 40 years, but he was for having more fossil fuel money in politics and not finding climate change very aggressively. Like Hickenlooper, he drank fracking fluid, and he still loves fracking, right? So are people going nuts over Hickenlooper? Progressives, going nuts over Hickenlooper, going, oh my God, God, yes. He is so consistent on being pro fossil fuels, right? No, nobody's interested in that. And Bernie Sanders has been for single payer for 40 years.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Other people have been for private insurance for 40 years, but we're not excited about them. Why do we, if you think that people think that Bernie Sanders is a savior, did it not occur to you as a journalist to ask, gee, I wonder why, right? And the answer is so obvious because of the policy and because of how honest he is. But instead of giving that as a credit to him on a day that he breaks a record on fundraising from so many different people, you use it as a way to dismiss him. Now let me get to the second part because there's this hilarious video surfaced by David Dole. David Dole, The Rational National.
Starting point is 00:49:07 You should check out his show on YouTube of the same pundit about a year ago. Now, if you notice in that clip today, he said he was always going to win out because a lot of people think he's a savior. Well, let's go back a year and see what Jason Johnson thought back then. If you were to create the worst possible three week period for his presidential campaign, it would be the launch of the person you shared the most ideological space with Elizabeth Warren and the fact you've had to defend yourself against the perception that your supporters are very anti-woman.
Starting point is 00:49:40 He's done. And I literally, I think he's done. I was literally having this discussion with a good contact of mine who's on the campaign. I was like, I see Bernie Sanders launching his campaign and by August realizing he won't be in the top five in Iowa and dropping out. I don't think he'll get that far. I have to make one quick point. Notice he gets invited on, like he was so devastatingly wrong. Like the whole point of bringing analysts and pundits on is because they're the experts who can really give you the behind the scenes look, what's really going on.
Starting point is 00:50:11 They can break down politics for you. I mean, that was an inaccurate take to say the least. I'm being gentle here, right? But he gets invited on. I don't remember the last time we got invited back on CNN, Jank. Or any cable news network, but just put that out there. Well, look, let me just follow up real quick on that. So Chuck Todd, that's the same Chuck Todd that last week was talking about, it turns out some Republicans were lying to us.
Starting point is 00:50:35 But he said it's okay, now we got to figure it out, okay? Some politicians aren't being honest, and but you know, previous generation got duped into the Iraq war, et cetera, but now, now we got it straight. And you know, but we pointed out, wait, all those people who got duped are still on air, and they were rewarded, not punished for being wrong. And then right now, MSNBC does the same exact thing. So Jason Johnson tells Chuck Todd, Bernie Sanders, he won't even come into the top five in Iowa, wiped out by August.
Starting point is 00:51:03 He's done, he's done, done, done. And the same MSNBC has him on now, like, we always knew he was gonna win among the progressives. I mean, they view him as a savior, everybody always knew that. Like, it's unbelievable stunning, by the way, on the day, same time period a year ago, when he was on with Chuck Todd, I, and he was announcing his candidacy, and they all declared him dead on arrival, I read to you all those quotes from Washington Post and other outlets, and I said, they're 100% wrong, he will be incredibly strong. is they said nobody will show up to his rallies anymore. I laughed and laughed and laughed. And I said, no, he's going to have bigger rallies than anyone else. I guarantee it.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Who was right and who was wrong? And then who's on TV and the mainstream media and who isn't? People who are right are not invited on mainstream media. You get invited on to be wrong. It's not an accident. It's not a bug. It's the feature. 100%.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Now, what's even more depressing about the corporate press and the way that they've handled this Bernie Sanders story is how this revelation that Brett Baer of all people on Fox News did a better job commenting on Bernie Sanders and his popularity. Take a look. Fundraising numbers for Q4 are in, Brett, and they are impressed at Bernie Sanders, $34.5 million for the quarter, P. Buttigieg, 24.7 million to Elizabeth Warren's 17, Andrew Yang, 16 and a half. Joe Biden, 15 million. I'm sure you've got some analysis on that, but you have to put that up against the Trump campaign raking in 46 million as well. You have to give Bernie Sanders credit. Remember, he's raising money with a big field that at one time was 20 candidates.
Starting point is 00:52:44 He has $34.5 million for this quarter. And the key part is that they're all small donors. It's about $18 is the average donation to Bernie Sanders. And all of those people have a lot more that they could do. So, that's amazing. When Fox News is more accurate, forget fair, is more accurate than the mainstream media is, what does that tell you about the mainstream media? So, and it's, look, Fox News does propaganda for the right wing, but the corporate media
Starting point is 00:53:16 does propaganda for corporations and for corporate Democrats and Republicans. So that's just the reality of it. Pick your poison. But to be fair to Brett Bear, he was right there. And he went on to say later in the segment, by the way, the Democratic Party is going to be panicking over this. And he's also right about that. Yes, he is. Oh my God, the Democratic Party might be represented by someone the Democratic voters agree with.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Panic, panic, he's not taking corporate money. What are we going to do? Now, isn't that something you should celebrate? Like, oh my God, somebody that agrees with our principles and that isn't beholden to any kind of corruption. Well, you wouldn't celebrate that if the establishment and the leadership of the the Democratic Party is actually part of the corruption. Yes. So, but again, the media will, if you say that, you're banned, you're banned, you cannot
Starting point is 00:54:04 criticize Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, et cetera. Now, but I want to get to an even more comical take. This is Bill Sherr at Politico. So he sees the record numbers, unreal, wonderful, positive, no, not positive. Bill says, your periodic reminder that the small donor class is disproportionately white, well college educated and much smaller than the overall primary electorate. What? So first of all, there's no data to back that up.
Starting point is 00:54:37 The 1.2 million people that gave money to Bernie Sanders are disproportionately white. First of all, the country's disproportionately white. So let's just make things up while we're at it. And then second of all, huh, I wonder if the people in the wine cave were disproportionately white. white. We've seen the pictures, they're all white, okay? And corporate donors, they're lobbyists. Is there been any articles in Politico about, oh my god, the lobbyists are disproportionately
Starting point is 00:55:04 white males that are very wealthy and all college educated. Now one article about that, I would be shocked if every lobbyist wasn't wealthy, college educated, and almost all white, right? But no, no, no, no, no, corporate donors, big donors, wonderful, small donors, white, Well, small donors are wealthy? That's the whole point is that they're not wealthy. They gave 18 bucks on average. Take the truth and turn it on its head.
Starting point is 00:55:34 You know what that's called? It's called propaganda and it's called manufacturing consent. Nome Chomsky wrote about it decades ago. And this is manufacturing consent in action. So I want to also give you one other comparison. It's not even a comparison. I want to show you how the New York Times has chosen to cover Bernie Sanders. and how he's outraised every other Democratic candidate in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:55:59 So these are two headlines from the New York Times. The first one reads, this is amazing. Pete Buttigieg's campaign says it raised $24.7 million in the fourth quarter. So what? Okay, but all right, that's fine. Maybe they just want to cover Buttigieg. They're not, they're hyper focused on him. But then here's the one that really takes the cake.
Starting point is 00:56:22 In rebounds, Warren slows, Sanders rolls the latest on the 2020 money race. So look, if you had the Buttigieg article by itself, it's fine, okay? But is that the big headline? But when the Bernie numbers come out, shouldn't it be Bernie Sanders breaks a record? Okay, well, you don't want to give him credit because you hate them, whatever. But Bernie Sanders is number one in money in fundraising. No, he's mentioned third, he's mentioned, but wait, is he third in the polling? The eighth in the polling.
Starting point is 00:56:53 No, he's number one in New Hampshire, number two in Iowa, and closing, number two nationally. But Biden, this, war in that, Sanders rolls, yeah, fine. I mean, and all of you are lumped together in one article, but Buttigieg, who raised $10 million less than Bernie Sanders, and largely did it in wine caves. But you know what, you know who lives in a wine cave? The New York Times. Oh, they would love to be in a wine cave. They're the wine cave media. So of course they celebrate Buttigieg.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Maybe they pop some champagne when Buttigieg's numbers came in. But when the Santa's money comes in, they're like, oh, well, I guess he's rolling. It's fine. I mean, just mention a third. I mean, they celebrate the annual wine cave and it's called the White House Correspondents dinner, right? I mean, look, this isn't an accident. It's not an accident.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Don't mistake this as, oh, maybe there's, you. an oversight issue, no, it's intentional, it's intentional. There is, if Buttigieg, if any other candidate had outraised all the other Democrats in the field the way that Bernie Sanders had, I guarantee you that person would not be buried, that lead would not be buried, that would be front and center, right? Well, we know it because Buttigieg didn't outraise anyone and he was front and center. Bernie raises 10 million more than him, breaks a record, and he's mentioned third. Can you imagine, like, if the New York Times was like, and Buttigieg rolls?
Starting point is 00:58:23 They would never do that. It's the beloved Buttigieg. So, and look, super last thing, because I did a whole long video about it, you check it out on YouTube.com slash t.t and also on t.com. Earlier today, I guess so mad at another political article because they did a critique of Buttigieg, oh great, let me see, finally, finally I found one, right? Nope, same exact thing as they did every other time. The radical left says this unfair thing about Pete Buttigieg.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And what was his thesis? Why? Because they're jealous of him. Oh, okay. And but Buttigieg luckily, heroically fending off these unfair attacks. And- Can you imagine if there were a story out of Burlington, right? Indicating that Bernie Sanders fired the first African American police chief because his don't owners told him to.
Starting point is 00:59:19 They would say disqualifying, it's over, it's over, it's over. It's over. But by the way, if you're saying, wait, Pete Buttigieg fired or in that case, he asked him to resign and then demoted the first police chief who was black in South Bend? Yeah, and a lot worse than that. And there's cops on tape saying white people are going to be back in charge. We got Buttigieg's donors to get rid of the black police chief. If that was a story about Bernie, there is no one in the world who
Starting point is 00:59:47 could argue that everyone in the national media wouldn't cover it to death until they drove, tart and feathered him, drove out of the race. For Buttigieg's, if you haven't heard it, I don't blame you, because it's a fact. We, it's on t.yt.com, our managing editor broke the story. It is indisputable to South Bend Common Council profusely thanked them for the investigative work. But the New York Times and all the mainstream media is like, I don't see it, I don't see it, I don't think it's an issue at all.
Starting point is 01:00:16 I mean, getting rid of black people from government, that's kind of awesome, is it? I mean, bravo Pete Buttigieg. I mean, they don't belong anywhere, right? It's let alone in a wine cave. So they're the most biased people in America. So be super careful what you read in the media. Especially the New York Times. And look, who knows, to be fair to them, maybe they just don't trust us as a source because
Starting point is 01:00:38 we're just a radio show. We're not obviously. Yeah. Oh, by the way, guys, as always, we try to be. Over the top fair, I know they're like, oh, yeah, you guys are actually honest about your opinion, so you can't be fair, idiots. Okay, anyway, so just double check our facts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:54 But don't take our word for it. We're not asking you to take our word for it. We broke the story. Why don't you prove us wrong? Why don't you go out there and defend your buddy Buttigieg? New York Times said, well, you goddamn it, will you send somebody yourself, Ben, Associated press, et cetera? Where are you guys?
Starting point is 01:01:10 Are the Young Turks wrong or are we right? So why don't you just go, I know, do what you do, defend Buttigiegs? You can't because you know we're right. And then that's amazing that you're ignoring that story. Amazing. But they don't care. They're purposely biased. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Intentional and malicious. We are going to take a break. When we come back, we have more for you, including the devastation in Australia as a result of the wildfires. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work. Listen ad-free. Access members, only bonus content, and more by subscribe. to Apple Podcasts at apple.com slash t yt. I'm your host, Shank Huger, and I'll see you soon.

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