The Young Turks - TYT Extended Clip - March 24th, 2020

Episode Date: March 26, 2020

Trump wants to send people back to work even if they’re still sick. Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right, welcome to the Young Turks. J.Q. G.U. Anna Cusparian from quarantine headquarters. Everyone has been asking to be socially distanced from me for years and years while asking you shall receive.

We have social distancing. We're all doing this from our individual homes from Caspas headquarters in a remote location somewhere in southern California. We have Anna Kusparian from Yuglang Headquarters. My wife's last name is Lang. All right, anyway, we have Jane Hugar, obviously. So listen, guys, these are not light times, but my job is to be a goofball, so I'm going to be goofball anyway, where it is called for, of course, anger and passion where that's called for.

And we've got plenty of that as well. I have a lot more information on coronavirus. I will share that with you. Whatever you do, do not ever take the information I have as medical fact. So we don't want to pull a Trump here. But I'll give you the updates that we have and the information we have and the news that we have in the short period of time that we have. So, Casper, go. All right.

Well, let's start off with some of what Donald Trump is attempting to do when it comes to, in his world, in his mind, saving the economy. So Donald Trump is arguing that maybe it's not such a good idea to move forward with the federal government guidelines on social distancing in order to slow the spread of coronavirus. Now, why would he think that? Maybe because it's having an impact on the economy, and he cares about the economy far more than he cares about actually saving human lives. So actually, he had a talk on Fox News and check out how soon he would like to end the guidelines for social distancing.

We're going to be opening relatively soon. Our time comes up, and Monday or Tuesday are the allotted two weeks, but we'll stay a little bit longer than that. But we want to get open very soon. I think that was a big reason it's gone up. I also think that the fact that the Senate and the House, we seem to be getting along as much as you can get along, we seem to be getting along now on a bill. I think that maybe had even less of an impact than the fact that we're opening up this incredible country. we have to do that. I'd love to have it open by Easter. Okay. I would love to have it open by Easter.

I will tell you that right now. I would love to have that. It's such an important day for other reasons, but I'll make it an important day for this. So, of course, he wants to open up the economy as quickly as possible, and it goes against everything that health experts have to say. But don't worry, he's been getting some advice from business experts, because that's much more important to him. So the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been urging social distancing defined as remaining out of places where people meet or gather and avoiding public local public transportation, even if you don't have any symptoms of the virus as a way to slow the spread of the disease. The CDC has recommended that no gatherings of 50 or more people

take place for eight weeks and adult 65 and over stay home if possible. But the federal government actually addressed this by suggesting stricter guidelines, no gatherings of people, you know, 10 people or more, right? And so they went even further than the CDC. But I think that was the right way to go. If we really want to stop the spread of this virus and if we want to avoid overwhelming the health care system, this is what we need to do. This is what we need to do to save lives. That should matter more. But we have oligards running the country. So that's the economy is all that matters. They're damn stock. portfolios, all that matters.

Okay. So, first of all, Easter is important for other reasons, too. It's when Jesus opened this casket, but now it'll also be known for Trump opening the economy. Okay. Yes, Easter is also known for other things other than you, Donald Trump. Later, Dr. Oz, of course, would ask him on what medical advice would you set the date of Easter? He's like, well, we'll have to see how that goes. So, of course, he's just pulling a, you know, a date out of his, you know what.

And by the way, putting it on actual Easter is a terrible idea because then everybody will gather in the churches where then you could spread the disease more. So, but he doesn't have any of the details planned. He has no idea what he's basing it on. Is there some, you know, medical update that he would have to see for him to pull the trigger on it being Easter? Would he rely on some experts? Which experts?

Is there any metrics that we could look at to see what would precipitate that turnaround? Look, everybody wants to eventually have, be able to go back outside. I mean, at a bare minimum, we're all going stir crazy, let alone the damage of the economy. We're all cognizant of that. But we have to have some rational, scientific, medical reasons that allows us to say, hey, you know what, now we think it's safe enough. And remember, as we said on yesterday's show, if everybody goes back to work and then we have another round of the virus, you did not help the economy, you hurt the economy, because

then you got to self-quarantine again, and it goes in waves rather than hopefully getting it over in one shot. No, let's just stop wasting our time, sugar-coding anything, because the truth is a lot of people are going to die, okay? We have an incompetent moron running the country. And he is being advised, Jank. Are you kidding me? Of course, he takes advice. He takes advice from a person named Wall Street. Like, he doesn't care about the medical experts surrounding him. And it's hilarious because he is surrounded by medical experts, right, who are trying to dissuade him from quote unquote opening the economy back up, which would, again, lead to this virus continuing to spread. It would

needlessly make this process drag out longer than it needs to, and people are going to die when you could save lives by just doing what you need to do as a leader, right? But he's not interested in being a leader. So it's really fascinating to see people surrounding him, including Dr. Deborah, what was her name? Burks. So Dr. Deborah Birx and Dr. Anthony Fauci are doing the rounds, media rounds, to correct misinformation and to urge people to stay home.

And here's one example of that. We know in specific metro areas and all the areas that have rising number of cases should be following all the president's guidelines. Those were very clear. They were sent out over a week ago. And this is my plea to every American. Please continue to follow the presidential guidelines. Are you confident that the president will listen to you,

to Dr. Fauci, to Dr. Adams, the Surgeon General, If you were to say, look, we know it is a hard pill to swallow, so to speak, for the economy, but to save lives, we have to continue this lockdown. Are you confident he would listen to that advice and take that advice? I am confident that the president has listened to and seen all of our data as it evolves. I think you can see that the president over these three weeks has been very focused on what the American people need, both economically and public health-wise. So they have to really walk this fine line of not offending Donald Trump, because as we know,

anyone who goes against him immediately gets fired. But they also have to convey important information. So Americans protect themselves and they don't spread the virus. What other suggestion that I'm hearing from the business community is, okay, well, you know, we know that young, healthy people are less likely to die as a result of coronavirus. So why don't we send them back out into the workforce and have the older, vulnerable people stay home? How does that stop the spread?

Like old people and young people aren't like completely segregated. It's such a dumb suggestion to practice. And it's all to, you know, get the stock market back up, which by the way, it's doing well today, but it's obviously a very temporary bump based on nonsense because everyone's expecting the Senate to pass the stimulus bill soon. Yeah. So, look, older people are more vulnerable to die. They're not more vulnerable to get the disease. We're all equally vulnerable to actually contract the disease. So it's not like, oh, old people are home, so nobody's going to get the disease. No. And if young people go to work

and they get the disease, they can bring it back home. And so, and there'll be more people that contracted, which then puts older people in more and more danger as well. So, That's not really how it works. And what I'm worried about with Donald Trump is, it's not just that he would lift the idea of social distancing, whether it's in 15 days or by Easter. It's that every time he starts to talk about how we got to start getting back together and get the economy going and get rid of social distancing, I'm afraid that more people are going to start doing that right now.

They're not going to wait till Easter. They're like, oh, the cult leader said it was going to be fine. So, oh, I hear it's just for weak liberals in blue states. I'm fine. I'm undefeated. I'm going to go out there. And then again, the problem here is the waves. It starts on the coast because that's where people come into the country from and came from

outside the country initially. It slowly goes to the middle of the country. But if the middle of the country isn't paying any attention to facts or science, it'll then go back out to the coast and round and round we go. That's why we all have to do it at once. But if Trump keeps running his mouth with completely inaccurate information and keeps encouraging people to go outside, well, they're not going to listen to Dr. Berks, and his followers, they're not going to listen to Dr. Fauci.

First of all, they're doctors. They believe in science. So of course Republicans aren't going to listen to that. They're going to listen to their dear leader. And the dear leader is acting nonchalant and cavalier again. So it endangers our lives. But guys, also please, for God's sake. It's not an either or, it's not either we protect our lives or we protect our economy.

If we endanger our lives, it further endangers the economy. It doesn't help the economy anyway. I know, but you're, I mean, by making that point, you're asking, you know, members of Trump's base and the Trump administration to, like, think ahead and have an actual thought process that's intelligent and well-meaning and, you know, will yield the best results. Trump is a fly-by-night, like shoot from the hip type of guy. He doesn't value human lives. The only thing Donald Trump values is his pocketbook.

That's it. That's it. Our system, it's funny, he was quoted as saying this. And I just thought it was such an interesting statement because, look, he says, our country wasn't built to be shut down. This is not what the country was built for. It was not built to be shut down, right? Okay, it wasn't built to be shut down.

He's actually right. That was a fascinating, honest moment for Donald Trump. Because our system is not meant to protect us during a pandemic. Because protecting Americans is not profitable. It's just not, right? In the short term. Everything is about short term gain. It's not about what's best in the long term,

both for the economy and for human lives. Anyway, I hate everyone. Like it's just, it's so the, it's so disgusting to see the type of behavior that we're seeing right now by members of the media and also, you know, people who have been elected to represent us, much more concerned, again, about their stock portfolios as opposed to stopping and slowing the spread of this pandemic. All right. To give you a sense, guys, last thing on this, to give you a sense of why people are

so concerned and what it mean, what does it mean? people's lives are on the line other than the obvious of they contract this disease and then they die. It's the ventilators, for example. So in New York, they're saying they need 40,000 ventilators because you have the people that normally need ventilators for getting sick for other reasons, right? And now you add the pandemic on top. And if people stay inside, less cases come at the same time, and then the number of ventilators we have, have a better chance of being enough for the new patients and the old patients. But if Governor Cuomo is right, and you have about 4,000 ventilators, but you need 30,000

ventilators, and FEMA sends in just 400 the other day, which is nothing, well, then he's asking, who's going to make the decision on which 26,000 people are not going to get a ventilator? and a lot of whom are going to die on the spot. So that's what's a stake here as Donald Trump and his rich Republican friends obsessed about their stock portfolio. Well, let's go from one corporate goon to the next. So Texas's lieutenant governor, Dan Patrick, was recently being interviewed on Fox, and he's very much concerned about what this pandemic is doing to the economy.

And he made a fascinating suggestion. Let's take a look. No one reached out to me and said, as a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren? And if that's the exchange, I'm all in. And that doesn't make me noble or brave or anything like that. I just think there are lots of grandparents out there in this country. Like me, I have six grandchildren.

I have six grandchildren, that what we all care about and what we love more than anything are those children. And I want to, you know, live smart and see through this, but I don't want the whole country to be sacrificed. And that's what I see. I've talked to hundreds of people, Tucker, and just in the last week, and making calls all the time. And everyone says pretty much the same thing, that we can't lose our whole country.

We're having an economic collapse. I'm also a small businessman. I understand it. And I talk with business people all the time, Tucker. And I'm so my, I'm just, my heart is lifted tonight by what I heard the president say, because we can do more than, you know, one thing at a time. We can do two things. So, you know, my message is that let's get back to work.

Let's get back to living. Let's be smart about it. And those of us who are 70 plus, we'll take care of ourselves, but don't sacrifice the country. Don't do that. Don't ruin this great American dream. So you're basically saying that this disease could take your life, but that's not the scariest thing to you. There's something that would be worse than dying. Yeah. Yeah. Trash. Trash. That's what that was. That was trash. It was garbage.

Okay. And I love how he tried to like, like, flatter himself in the middle of that. Like, I'm not, I mean, I'm not, I'm not brave or correct. No, you're not. You're trash. He should know that. Okay. By the way, he talks about his grandchildren, okay? Go out there then. Because the real heroes right now are the people who are putting their lives on the line to treat patients with coronavirus. The people who are working at the grocery stores. So those stores are made open and we can have access to food. So if he wants to be brave and if he wants to practice what he preaches, why doesn't he go bag some groceries right now, Right now.

You think Dan Patrick is going to do that? Trash. So let's finish the sentence because he said, Tucker Carlson asked him, so you think some things are more important than even your life? And he said, yeah, his stock portfolio. I mean, there it is. Republican 101.

Look, guys, no one is minimizing the damage to the economy. It's hurting young Turks. It's hurting all of us personally. It's hurting people who might lose their jobs. No one is minimizing that. But if the trade-off is we let a huge percentage of people above the age of 70 die so the stock market doesn't go down and all those other economic elements don't happen, I don't think that's a hard question.

And apparently they don't think it's a hard question either. We just have different answers. But also understand the false courage that. Dana was talking about there. Dan Patrick actually thinks he's going to be okay. He's wealthy. He's a statewide politician. He's among the elites. You think he's not going to get a ventilator? Trust me, he's going to get a ventilator if he gets sick, right? You run out of ventilitis for poor people. Well, some people had to be sacrificed. He kept talking about the word sacrifice. Imagine if Democrats had said, well, look, we've got to sacrifice some older Americans to

to pay for all the parts of the government. They would be like, oh my God. And in fact, when they didn't even do that, the Republicans invented this thing called death panels that didn't actually exist, except here's the lieutenant governor of Texas calling for death panels, say, well, I know, but we gotta get the stock market back up. Trash. And, you know, he's not the only one. Fox and friends, they've had similar discussions.

In fact, recently, Stuart Barney was on Fox. and he was making similar arguments. What the president is saying is at odds with what the medical community is saying. The president is saying, let's get back to work. But the medical community seems to be saying, no, you've got to clamp down to make sure we beat the virus first.

So there's two sides to this equation. The investors, they're taking the president's side. They want the economy to start getting back up to speed again, albeit slowly, but that's what they want. And that's why the market does so. well first thing this morning. Yeah, and in New York, they lost 100, we lost 126 people. They passed away last night.

It was the biggest increase since this whole thing started. There's no question that New York has more cases than anybody else, and there's no question that New York is getting the biggest response as they convert the Javitt Center. In fact, overall with the economy, they're going to lose between, we're going to lose this month, between five and seven million jobs. Five to seven million people will be laid off. because it's important, and I haven't heard anyone, even in left media, make this point. The economy has been pretty crappy for a lot of people for a very long time.

Like, what it took was for the stock market to suffer for all of these TV pundits, not just on Fox News, all over the place, all of these mainstream cable outlets, right? To start panicking about the economy. Now, don't get me wrong, as Jenka said a million times, yes, this pandemic has had a huge negative impact on our economy. people have been laid off. My husband's been laid off. So I get that. But they don't care about Christian getting laid off. They don't care about all those workers in the gig economy who had to work several different jobs just to make enough money to pay their rent. They've been bragging about how wonderful the economy is while workers' wages have remained

stagnant for decades. While people who were hurt the hardest, right, from the 2008 economic collapse, never recovered. You heard all these same people talking about how wonderful the economy was. They did not care about any situation, any average American was in. They didn't care about how bad the economy was for the vast majority of average Americans. They didn't care until their stock portfolios took a hit. Now all of a sudden, oh my God, the economy is terrible. But if you look at so many other measures of the economy prior to what happened with coronavirus, you'll know that it wasn't doing so well for most people anyway. Yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth.

Five to seven million people losing their jobs. That's why Stuart Varney's all upset. That's why Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick's all for Klimt. No, no. It's their beloved, cherished stock market. And even the unemployed, they're like, whoa, that makes me worry about the economy, which will make the stocks dip. We know you probably hit play to escape your business banking, not think about it.

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talk about those five to seven million people so for us our hearts break for them but what is the alternative is it to send them back to work where it is dangerous no the alternative should be to cover for example if they actually cared hey steward i got a great idea uh damn patrick i got a great idea, why don't we pay their full salaries as unemployment insurance only while the pandemic is raging? And then we'll put a cap on it, and then we'll get back to normal afterwards. That way you could show that you really care about those people. Instead of saying, you know, the way I'm going to show my care is, no, I'm not going to give them money. And of course not. Don't be ridiculous, right? I'm not going to help them make a living or

provide for their family. No, I'm going to send them back to work where they can get sick and then spread the disease. You see how caring I am? Get out of here. You don't care about them at all, not 1%. And again, guys, it doesn't help the economy if everybody goes back to work and they all get sick. And then we all have to go back inside the house for another couple of weeks or a couple of

months. So this is no answer at all. And what they don't realize is it'll drag down the stock market, their beloved cherry stock market for even longer. than this current situation. Exactly. All right. Well, when we come back from the break, we'll discuss the never-ending saga between Donald Trump

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all at the same time. Hey, welcome back to the Young Turks, guys, Jank and Anna with you guys. And we've got a great show for you guys, obviously. And we're going to talk about Fauci in a second. But first, I want to read some comments for you guys. MPC, these are our members as usual. MPC writes in, why, why, why, dear God? Is he still in the White House?

Oh, M.G. And that's how a lot of us feel, obviously. Unfortunately, there's such a giant difference between how a Democratic president and a Republican president is treated. If Obama had said one out of the thousand things that Trump has said wrong, they'd be looking to impeach him immediately. Okay, Trigger incarnate writes in, great to see Jenkin find form and doofing it up better than ever, no problem, can do.

And Jay Hufford writes in, these Republicans are all pro-life. until it means a few points off the Dow, then it's like the surplus of dead bodies is a growth opportunity for funeral homes, gravediggers, and crematoriums. They haven't said that yet, but hold, and you never know. All right, Anna, you're on. All right, well, I wanna stay on this topic

of Anthony Fauci within this coronavirus task force, because he's kind of like a security blanket. You know, it's comforting to know that there's some experts, around Donald Trump, but unfortunately, he's got some issues with Trump, and Trump's got some issues with him. So after weeks of having to correct Donald Trump's misinformation on COVID-19 and doing a number of media appearances in order to set the record straight, it appears that Dr. Anthony Fauci, who's the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, is experiencing

an increase in tensions between himself and Donald Trump. And it's because of the fact that he's been going on cable news shows, network news shows, in an effort to correct the record on some of the misinformation that Trump has put out there. And Trump doesn't take kindly to that. So without further ado, I want to go to this video because it has to do with a topic that's really being discussed right now. And there's a significant difference between Fauci's message, which you're about to hear and what Trump believes.

Take a look. Where is Dr. Fauci right now? Why is he not this briefing? will he attend to future ones. I was just with him for a long time. And, oh, he's at the task force meeting right now. We have a task course meeting. He was there.

Does he agree with you about the need to reopen the economy soon? Well, he doesn't not agree. I mean, we had a long talk. And he understands there's a tremendous cost to our country, both in terms of lives and in terms of economics and in terms of many, many years of rebuilding something that was, fine-tuned machine. There was nobody's fault. It just happened. This horrible virus came from wherever. And it just happened. It just happened. He fully understands that. No, he's a good man.

I like Dr. Fauci a lot, just so you understand. No, he's not here because we really weren't discussing what he's best at. So that was Trump's press briefing last night. And it was kind of interesting because it was the first time that Fauci wasn't present. And that's why the reporter asked him, like, yo, what's up? Where's, where's Dr. Anthony Fauci? We want to get some actual correct information tonight during this press briefing. But Trump said nice things about Fauci, but behind the scenes, based on reporting from several sources, including the New York Times, there are tensions. The reason why Trump hasn't gotten rid of him yet is because people trust him, people like him, and Trump is concerned that getting rid of him now would actually hurt Trump and his chances of

re-election. So let me decode, though, what Trump said there. First of all, Pence tells him, oh, he's at a task force meeting. Wait a minute, Pence is the head of the task force. So why isn't he at the meeting? And then Dr. Berks is also in the task force. Why isn't she at the meeting? No, no. They decided that they were going to keep Fauci out of the meeting. They're like, this isn't what he's good at. What do you mean? Informing people about the status of the virus is exactly what he's good at. And so, why is, does he have some sort of secret talent at NASCAR that we're unfamiliar with? No, that's the whole point of Dr. Fauci, is to come and tell us what the latest scientific and medical issues are in regards to this virus. But the interesting

part was Trump's train of thought there is he said, no, no, no, he doesn't not agree. Like, This is the main divergence, where Trump wants everybody to go back to work as soon as possible to help the stock market, whereas Fauci says, well, it's not going to help anything anyway because more people are going to get sick if you do that. So we need to maintain social distancing for a longer period of time. But if you notice Trump's answer was, I mean, he agrees, no one's at fault here. This thing came from wherever it came from. No one's at fault.

Right. He knows where it came from. So what he's trying to say is Fauci isn't blaming me. So he's okay enough and don't report that Fauci is blaming me because I didn't start the disease. Nobody thinks you started the disease. That isn't the question. That isn't the issue.

The issue is how are you handling it? And for example, if you force people back to work too early, you might be handling it poorly and make the disease far worse. But he's such a simpleton that that's why he's talking about, like, you know, again, he's about like, yeah, the disease came from somewhere else. Well, okay. So there's one other part to that that I actually want to decode. Because remember, Trump has really relied on using some pretty racist language in talking about

COVID-19. He keeps referring to it as like a Chinese virus. That press conference was actually the first time that he avoided referring to it as a Chinese virus, which is why in that moment it was kind of awkward where he was like, it came from wherever it came from. And it's so funny. I thought about this last night. I'm like, you know, it's going to hurt his vote with Asian voters who, you know, there's a pretty significant conservative Asian voting block that he's needlessly antagonizing right now. And then sure enough, all of a sudden, he starts, you know, changing his rhetoric. And I think it has to do with his chances of getting

reelected, really. Yeah, no, look, credit where credit is due. I mean, it's The same thing as Trump always does. He starts a fire, then he puts, sometimes he puts some of the fire out, forcing me to give him credit for that. But yeah, he's the one that started creating this atmosphere where Asian Americans were being blamed. I told the story on the air now a couple of weeks ago about how my son came home asking about if it was basically Chinese people's fault.

And then he, but I'm glad he's now backing away from that. And he also put out of tweets saying, hey, don't believe. Blame Asian Americans, they didn't do this and they're important part of our community, etc. Yes, Anna, it's a voting, it's a rare ethnic voting block that he hasn't completely pissed off and might be able to get a couple of votes from. Koreans, for example, are very religious and have a decent chance of voting Republican based on that. And there's many other factors here. But also, there are a lot of wealthy Asian Americans. So could he care about that in terms of his donor class? Could he be hearing from Asian business leaders? That

certainly could be the case as well. Exactly. And I do want to mention that Dr. Anthony Fauci completely disagrees with Donald Trump's goal of opening the economy back up, meaning encouraging people to go back to work by Easter. In fact, he released a statement Fauci did, saying that Trump needs to be very flexible with that date. So we'll see what happens. We know that if experts around him push him too far in a direction he doesn't want to go in or in a direction that doesn't like immediately benefit him in the short term, then he gets rid of them. He likes to be surrounded by Yesman and luckily, you know, some of the health experts around

him right now aren't Yesman, but they're doing their best to try to like massage him while, you know, getting actual factual information out there. And by the way, I want, go ahead, Jake. Yeah, and Trump even said in that press conference, said, well, if we listen to the doctors, the whole world would be shut down, and they'd shut it down for like two years. First of all, that's not remotely true. No doctor has said, we're going to shut the world down for two years. But more importantly, gives you a sense of his mindset there, where he thinks, if I listen

to the damn doctors, they're going to want to be cautious, and I don't want to be cautious. Because that's about saving people's lives. And I'm trying to save my presidency here and my chances at reelection. So that's why he's talking about, like, other smarter conservatives frame it as a balancing act. Well, that's a sensible way of talking about it, even if they don't mean it. But for Trump, he doesn't have that kind of nuance. So he's just like, don't listen to the doctors.

They shut it down for like two years. In other words, I am not going to listen to the doctors. Right. Well, I want to reset for the second half of this story, because it has to do with that legendary face palm moment during one of these press briefings. So let's talk about that a little bit. During one of Donald Trump's press briefings on coronavirus, there was a moment where Dr. Anthony Fauci appeared to respond to something Trump said with a face palm, right? Now, if you watch TYT regularly, you're familiar with the face palm because I do it quite often toward Jank when we're hosting together. But in this case, Dr. Anthony Fauci did it in response to Donald Trump. Let's take a look at that moment. And then I'm going to tell you the excuse that Fauci has given the public about that moment.

You know what I'd like to do? I'd like them to go back to the State Department or, as they call it, the Deep State Department. I'd like to have him go back and do his job. So does anybody have any question? Okay, so instead of saying State Department, he says deep State Department. And so, of course, people want to know, like, what's up? Not just the media, but people surrounding Trump who are Trump loyalists are like, oh, we don't like that guy.

What is he trying to say? Well, officials asked him about that viral moment in the White House briefing room when he put his hand to his face. Why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you, no matter the size. Whether you're taking over your parents' basement or moving to campus, IKEA has hundreds of design ideas and affordable options to complement any budget. After all, you're in your small space era.

It's time to own it. Shop now at IKEA.ca. It appeared to suppress a chuckle after Trump referred to the state. Department as the Deep State Department. Fauci had a benign explanation. He had a scratchy throat and a lozenge or cough drop. He had in his mouth had gotten stuck in his throat, which he tried to mask from reporters. Like, is anyone buying that? Is anyone by it? Like, it's okay. We all had the same reaction, Dr. Fauci. But I mean, he's got to give some sort of excuse. Otherwise, Trump will throw a temper tantrum.

Yeah. When I cough drop gets stuck in my throat, I always laugh. I think, like, oh, that's so funny. It's stuck in my throat. Oh, yeah, I got cough drops all day when I'm doing the show with you. That's what the face palm is all about, Jake. Just that lozage stuck on the roof of my mouth. Yeah. So, look, Fauci's been around since 1984 in the government fighting infectious disease and being the head of that department. So before this, pandemic, he was best known for getting Ronald Reagan to pay a little bit of attention to HIV AIDS.

He did some great work in moving the government in the direction of actually helping people. Reagan was did far too little, far too late, but at least Dr. Fauci moved him in the right direction. So he knows how to handle sensitive politics. And so I, as long as he's not fabricating anything about the disease, if he's fabricating, something about a lozenge, I could live with it. Because if you upset Trump, he doesn't care how good you are at your job. The only thing he cares about, we've talked about this a thousand times, is loyalty, because he's a mobster at heart and he values loyalty over competence.

So if you piss him off, it'll be Fauci versus Grouchy. And we can't have that because we need Fauci. We do. We need actual health experts to give us the information we need to stay safe. So I agree with you on that. All right, when we come back from the break, turns out that some of those insider trading senators are being called out by a Republican. So I'll tell you who it is.

And by the way, in the process of going after them, this Republican is defending Katie Hill. Who is it? Yeah, well, and I'll tell you two. But by the way, yes, Fauci versus Grouchy is a dad joke. So buck to t.wytt.com slash go. And yes, I actually got it from Brett Ehrlich. Anyway, and yes, please, tyt.com slash go is as as important as ever. And also in the post game today, we're going to talk about Melania Trump.

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It's a very good point and almost certainly will happen. I bathe in a very stable geniuses tears says Fauci isn't being exiled just because he's, just because he corrected Trump. He's being exiled because he's taking some of the spotlight away from Trump. That's an excellent point. And Trump said that he, in the past, he said he liked Fauci because he's good on TV, he's a good TV doctor, okay? But the thing with Trump is you gotta walk a fine line.

You have to be good on TV, otherwise he doesn't like you. But if you're too good on TV, then you're taking the spotlight away from him. Can I say something about Anthony Fauci? I don't know what it is about him, but it is comforting for me because I like this person a lot. a lot, but Fauci reminds me a lot of Dave Kohler. Yeah, right? Right? Yeah, there's like some, like the gestures and like how he speaks very matter-of-factly

and he just like cuts to the chase, like, it just reminds me of Dave Kohler and I'm like, I trust that guy. He knows what he's talking about. It's a less grouchy, Fauci. Yes. One last thing, right, say, when Trump says I like X, X's days are numbered. And kudos to Trump for not calling it mentioning China this time around. So easy to get praise, just as long as you don't do the worst of the worst.

YouTube super chat, arrow zero right, error zero writes in, let's sacrifice grandma and grandpas of the economy, sort of like how the Aztecs used to sacrifice people to the sun. Funny you say that when I was first watching that interview of Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, I thought of the Aztecs as well, because he can't have talking about sacrifice. Look, we've got to sacrifice some old people to the gods, to the stock market gods. It is what it is, right? That's how they think it's unbelievable. Well, boy is 70 years old.

Like he's turning 70, I think, next week. So it's not like he's a whippersnapper. So Dan Patrick, go to work. Go to work. There's a local Ralph supermarket that could use some workers right now. Right? Do it for America. Do it for your country.

Just like you proposed others do. I was at the supermarket today. I want to tell you about that experience because I got a couple things out of it. We'll save that for the post game for members, t.y.t.com slash join. And thank you for using YouTube super chat. Let me just read two more because it's important. He said, Jake, you're looking surprisingly fresh. I think this quarantine has done your skin good.

No, it's the lighting. And Jeffrey Perez says, what do you think about New York? Do they need to lock the city down? People are escaping the hot zone limit domestic travel. Well, that's an issue that just came up. And Dr. Birx said, if you're leaving New York City, you should self-quarantine for 14 days because you might already have the disease. Just leaving doesn't mean you're safe. Doesn't mean you don't already have it.

I understand the urge to leave, and I'm sure they're not going to lock the city down. But make sure that you stay indoors for 14 days if you're leaving New York because it obviously spread like wildfire in the city. Okay, Anna. All right. So there was a big story last week that we have an update to, and I'm glad there's an update because I want to stay on this. I don't want these people getting away with what they're doing. So last week we reported that there were several U.S. senators who might have engaged in illegal insider training. They are not allowed to use information that they've learned through their jobs that is not available to the public in order to make decisions about their stock. portfolios. But last January, January 24th, senators, every single one of them, had a briefing on the severity of COVID-19. Now, keep in mind that these senators didn't make public statements about the severity, but a lot of them did dump stocks because you could expect that certain businesses aren't going to perform so well if the virus is as serious as it turned out to be.

Now, a Republican lawmaker, Representative Matt Gates from Florida, is not happy about the fact that these senators did that and actually want some consequences for them. Now, one of the senators who was implicated in this is the Senate Intel Chairman Richard Burr. And so Matt Gates called him out via Twitter, saying, Katie Hill gets run out of Congress for screwing a campaign staffer absent any complaint. Senator Burr stays as intelligence chairman after screwing all Americans by falsely reassuring us with op-eds on COVID while he dumped his stock portfolio early. This is not fair.

So I have so many thoughts on this. First of all, I will support anyone who wants to call out these senators. I believe that these senators should be investigated. They broke the law. And it's not just Richard Burr. There's Kelly Loeffler from Georgia, Diane Feinstein, Richard Inhoff, like all of these people are coming up and we should be investigating them. Okay?

If they dumped all these stocks right after their briefing and didn't address the seriousness of COVID-19 publicly, they need to be investigated, they need to be prosecuted. And so I'm happy that Matt Gates brought that up. But I do want to say, this is now I think the second time that Gates has defended Katie Hill. And I just, I think that's fascinating. Yeah, well, I know why. So first about Burr, I agree with Matt Gates, and I got no problem agreeing with him, even though he's a massive right-winger and terribly wrong on every other issue.

I agreed with him on the war. I agree with him that the senators should have consequences for that kind of insider trading. But also, this is a small note. Burr is a rare Republican senator that has at times checked Donald Trump and not just gone along with everything he says. So Republicans feel like it's a slight win-win to ding Burr, just to keep that in mind. Now, why is Matt Gates supporting Katie Hill? Well, it's not because he's benevolent. It's because he's also famous for at least talking about and wanting to have sex with staffers. So Katie Hill did that. And so Matt Gates has got a dog in that fight. He is known to have

created a point system when he was a legislator in the state of Florida for sleeping with people, including staffers. So I'll tell you the point system, him and a bunch of his buddies that were legislators said that you'd get one point for having sex with a lobbyist, two for a staffer, three for another legislator, and six for a married legislator. Okay. Now what they do with lobbyists and legislators is their business, and I don't really care. And I don't care if they give themselves points. I don't care what they're private businesses.

But sleeping with staffers is completely and utterly out of bounds. And if you're wondering, well, hey, Jank, are you being consistent on it? Yes. Because Katie Hill now that we have more evidence that she also slept with a congressional staffer, I actually don't think it was close at all. She definitely should have resigned. Oh, wow. Yeah, of course. If any progressive has slept with a campaign staffer, At any male period, any progressive, a progressive male, no one would defend them. Not one person in America would defend them. They'd all be run out of town.

So why do we have different standards for Katie Hill? So there's no, I don't shed a tear for that at all. Okay. Yeah. I mean, look, I think that if there's any cause, if there's any reason to believe that criminal behavior exists among our law. lawmakers, members of the Senate, especially when, you know, they, in a lot of cases, downplayed the seriousness and severity of COVID-19 publicly.

But privately, they knew what the truth was, and they prepared themselves financially for when the market would tank. So they risked people's lives. And on top of that, broke a law regarding insider trading. And it's amazing because every once in a while, I see these tweets about how, no, well, they're lawmakers, so they're immune to those types of law. No, they're not. The law applies to them. It applies to them. And they can't be doing insider trading based on non-public information that they're getting from these briefings. Now, I do want to give you some of the details, Jane,

because I know you heard about it. So Kelly Loughler from Georgia was appointed as Senator because she's a meritless loser who can't win based on her actual talent or skill. So she had to, you know, use her connections and her money to get appointed a senator, something that she's not qualified for at all. She and her husband, who is the head of the New York Stock Exchange, dumped about $3 million worth of stock following her, you know, the Senate's briefing on January 24th. And her excuse has been, well, I mean, I knew nothing about that, you know. We have financial advisors who take care of our stock portfolio. I had no idea that this was going on.

Who knows? Maybe she's telling the truth. Doubt it, but she should be investigated. So when she was appointed, the main reason that reporters pointed to was that she was a very good fundraiser for Republicans. So it's always the money. And now I didn't know at the time that her husband was the head of the New York Stock exchange. Now, putting those two things together, it's not surprising that she knows a lot of wealthy

people, and she, in essence, bought that seat for herself. And, well, if you're in the business of buying things like that, well, you're going to have to save your money. So since they had information, the rest of us didn't, they dumped all their stock. And she says, well, look, my husband made the trades. Yeah, but you talk to him. And it doesn't make it any better if the head of the New York Stock Exchange had information that no one else at the New York Stock Exchange had. That doesn't make the situation any better at all. And you're not going to tell no one's going to believe, at least no real person is going to believe that it was just a wild coincidence. All right. Well, we got about 15 seconds. So I just want to encourage everyone who

is a member to stick around because we will be doing a member-only postgame. And we have some stories for you guys in addition to some personal stuff that we'll talk about. I know Jenk promised a personal story. And I hope you guys enjoy it. If you're not a member, you can become one by going to t-y-t.com slash join. Thank you and we'll see you soon. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work, listen ad-free, access members, only bonus content, and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at apple.com at apple.com slash tyt. I'm your host, Jank Yugar, and I'll see you soon.