The Young Turks - TYT Extended Clip - March 4th, 2020
Episode Date: March 5, 2020Well, Super Tuesday didn't go well. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices.... Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome back to the Young Jerks.
You got a conspiracy to everybody.
I say welcome back to the young jerks to myself mainly because I'm back.
Oh, hey, Jake, welcome.
The hair is not.
That's an old M&M reference.
Okay.
No, no, I know.
I know that.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah, your hair looks good.
My on the other hand is the fluffiest hair you've ever got seen.
This is what happens when you can't get a haircut during a campaign.
You know that gel or hairspray exists.
I do it.
I've applied it and it still won't stay down.
Okay.
That's some good Mediterranean hair right there.
All right guys, obviously big news about Super Tuesday, equally obviously Bloomberg dropping
out, we'll get to all those details, very, very important.
But we're gonna have some fun on the third hour.
Third hour, we will finally get to discuss my congressional race.
So we had a lot of restrictions while I was running.
We no longer have those restrictions because I have lost.
So if you didn't see the news yesterday, yeah, it was pretty badly.
Okay, so lessons learned, what can we use to help progressives based on what I learned
from the campaign?
We'll begin to have that conversation.
What were some of the backstories to the campaign?
Jerome's, okay.
So we'll do the first half in the conversation like we normally do, freely available
to everybody.
We'll save for the members to get to some more juicy stuff.
And I'll preview one thing for you guys, which is the downside is we didn't get to do the
dreams that we wanted, which would have been amazing to go into Congress, kick some ass,
et cetera.
The upside is that I'm now free and I'll be back on old school and we will be-
Yes!
God, I totally forgot about that.
Okay, and speaking of old school, at one point, probably about five years ago, I talked about
how at some point in my life, I would enter the no holds barred portion of my life.
We might have just entered that, okay?
So that conversation begins.
In the third hour of the show, as always, the last half hour always remembers t.com
slash join to become a member. And yes, we're doing a campaign to raise money. Yes, we absolutely
needed. That's t.y.t.com slash go. We'll give you an update on that very soon in the show.
But speaking of the show, let's do it. Yeah, before we get to the stories, though, I want to take
just a quick moment to thank John Ida Rola for really stepping up. I mean, he's got this insane
workload already. And with Jenk running for Congress, he agreed to be, you know, my default
Co-host, I didn't want to have a revolving panel, I'm just keeping it real with you guys.
I wanted some consistency and I wanted someone that I could rely on every single day and
John was that person.
He did such a great job and I just want to thank him.
And I'm very lucky to work with him every day.
He's still doing the damage report, of course.
He's still with the network and he'll still be on the main show, I'm sure a lot because
Jank will be absent a lot anyway.
But John's awesome.
So first of all, whatevs, second of all.
So what, you want to take my job, John?
Is that what it is?
Okay, no, seriously, let me quadruple down on what Anna said.
You know what John Iderola is?
He's a rock.
He is.
Okay.
He's a good person.
He's a great person, he's a great host, and so he's great for this network.
Everyone should be lucky enough to have a John Iderola in their life, okay?
That dude's a rock, so thanks, John, we appreciate it.
And now, speaking of editorial control, I will take command and control back now.
Same for the third hour, same for the third hour.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have a lot to say on that.
John, you missed the nice things we said about you for the first time ever in TYT history.
He just went in the control room.
You missed it by this much.
Luckily, you're a member.
Rewind and you'll see it.
And it's okay.
Now we can go back to poking fun at him, which is what happens on the show.
That's right.
All right, let's get to the stories.
So, now that Super Tuesday is over, we felt that it was important to do a postmortem, but also
think of what the strategy should be moving forward for progressives, particularly for Bernie Sanders,
who still has a very good shot at winning the Democratic nomination.
So for all of you out there who were discouraged today, get over it, get over it quickly,
because now is the time to fight, and now is the time to do so aggressively.
First, let's go over what the results of last night were.
First off, we need to know what the total delegate count looks like thus far in the race.
And Biden does have the lead.
He is the frontrunner, but the lead isn't really that big.
So he has 513 of the pledge delegate so far.
Bernie comes in at second with 461, and then Warren comes in at third with 47.
Now there have been some rumors, some whispers that Warren could be dropping out soon.
We'll see how that plays out, but for now she's still in the race.
Okay, can I, I gotta jump in on that delegate count.
So first, the usual establishment of Democrat and mainstream media hypocrisy, when Bernie
Sanders had the lead after the first three states, after the first four states, they
were like, no, not a front, no way, no, okay, we really call it up front, no, no, no, right?
The minute Biden takes the lead, a tiny lead, as you just saw there in the delegate count,
They have to go all the way to 1,991, so it's anybody's ballgame.
We got Florida, Michigan, New York, so many things coming up, right?
They're like, nope, that's it.
I think Bernie should drop out.
I mean, why is he extending this?
He has no road to winning.
Are you serious?
And they say it with a straight face, that's why I'm done with the mainstream media.
I mean, I'll go on and I'll talk to them, but we have to call them the brazen hypocrites
that they are.
So I, you know how I feel about the mainstream media, I have very similar feelings.
However, I think that it's important to give credit where credit is due.
So while MSNBC has its regular anti-Burdy programming, and while people like James Carville
are urging everyone in the Democratic race to drop out, including Bernie Sanders, of course,
I was just listening to the New York Times podcast, The Daily, and they were really honest.
They're like, no, Bernie still has a really good shot at what it is.
Yeah, okay, well, then let me go further, okay, I'm glad you mentioned that, because all
like the mainstream media, we're fair, we give you what they do right and wrong.
So what is this talk of this Bernie of a chance?
Here, put up the delegate count again.
It's nearly tied.
They have to get to 1,991.
All Bernie has to do is win one more state and he's back in the lead.
What are you guys talking about?
They make it sound like Bernie's at like Klobuchar level at seven or something.
And by the way, another important point about that is all this talk of like a broker convention,
a broker convention, all of a sudden Biden takes the lead, no more talk of broker convention.
Now is anybody asking on TV?
Well, I mean, if Biden's goes in with a lead, but he doesn't have 50%, you know, I guess,
you know, we should probably give it to find a way to give it to Bernie.
No, that talk has ended immediately.
Second of all, what brokered convention put off the graphic one more time?
There's only two people in this race.
Warren is barely still in the race because she's talking to staff about maybe dropping out.
She is 47.
None of them are going to have any delegates.
A broker convention happens when there are not two major candidates.
When there's a whole bunch of candidates and the guy got 37, the other one got 38, another
one got 12 stuff.
No, the other candidates delegates are de minimis.
They won't be relevant unless it's razor thin.
So no, we got a two person race.
It's anybody's ball game.
Last thing on that, hey, mainstream media, we love to do things ahead of time.
You love to be hypocrites.
So if Bernie retakes the lead and mainly to establishment Democrats, James Carville and all those
guys, I'm talking to you.
If Bernie retakes the lead, will you have the same position?
Will you say, well, now that Bernie's the frontrunner, Biden should drop out?
We all know what the answer is, right?
So do you want to do just a quick breakdown of all the different states from Super Tuesday
who won those states and by how much?
Because remember, these are not winner take all races.
So even if the majority of voters in any given state preferred Joe Biden over Bernie, the
fact of the matter is Bernie will still win delegates in that state.
So let's get to some of those specifics.
So let's start with the states that Joe Biden did win, Alabama, Arkansas, Maine, Massachusetts,
Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia.
It's a lot of states, right?
It is, and that's why he's in the back in the ball game.
And again, unlike the rest of the media, we're super fair.
The minute Joe Biden started winning states that we didn't expect, we're like, oh, he's
having a great night, this is now a two person race.
By the end of the night, we were saying, no, Biden won Super Tuesday, he's now in the lead.
Let's keep it real, right?
Because we can do math.
And Emma reported that from Bernie's headquarters, we all universally agreed, because again,
It's not complicated.
But I gotta say one thing about Joe Biden's so-called strength.
Some of those states are very relevant, some will be blue no matter what, like Massachusetts.
And some are more toss-ups like Virginia and very important in the general election.
But most of them are in the south, and they're like, Joe Biden's strengths in Alabama.
So I think maybe he could beat Trump in Alabama?
No.
Arkansas.
No.
So keep it real, it's across the board.
But most of those states are states that Joe Biden will have absolutely zero percent chance
of winning in the general election.
Correct.
When it comes to the states that Bernie Sanders won, California, of course, is a huge state
to win, and luckily Bernie Sanders did win that state, then you have Colorado, Utah,
and Vermont.
I mean, look, now Bernie wins the largest state in the union.
He does it by a good margin.
All the people who said Bernie Sanders had no chance, laughed at him, mocked him, et cetera,
for the entirety of this campaign on the one before, he wins California.
And they're like, he didn't win it by enough.
He didn't win it by enough.
That's not true.
Okay, you have nothing but excuses.
We're fair about how Biden did, had a great night.
Last line is definitely back in it.
We got a two-person race.
Are they equally fair?
Sometimes, like Anna pointed out, the New York Times did a good job with the daily and oftentimes not.
So let's go to a breakdown of each individual state just to show you how much they won.
Now, again, in Alabama, Joe Biden did win in that state.
He had 63.37%.
Now, that was a huge lead over Bernie Sanders.
So in Alabama, Bernie unfortunately received 16.81%.
But to Jenks' point, Alabama is a state in the general election that will go to Trump.
Yeah.
So I'll go through the rest of them real quick.
So Alabama, easy win for Biden, congrats to him, but also easy win for the Republicans
and the general.
Arkansas, same exactly, not as big a margin, but still a big margin, 40 to 22 basically for Biden.
California, Bernie wins 33.6 to 22.7.
So that's a healthy 11 point win in the biggest state, which means that is a lot more delegates
that you pick up with that size of a win in that biggest state.
In Colorado, Bernie wins 3623.
Maine, Biden squeaks out of victory there when back and forth all night, 34th, 33 basically.
Massachusetts, Biden at 33 and a half, Bernie at 27.
That one could have been closer.
Now, a lot of people say, let's pause there.
Elizabeth Warren, if she had dropped out and endorsed Bernie, Bernie might have won Massachusetts.
I actually think that was way more relevant in 2016, because at that point, Massachusetts would have made a big difference.
and momentum.
I think Bernie could have also maybe won Iowa, which was a squeaker in 2016.
Now, if you made the argument that Bernie would have won Massachusetts if Warren had dropped
out, you have to be honest and say, yeah, but Biden probably would have won a lot of states
or done better in a lot of states if Bloomberg had dropped out earlier.
So be fair on both sides of that.
Minnesota, Biden winning a state, he wasn't necessarily supposed to win a couple of days ago,
But Klobuchar's endorsement made a big difference there.
So 38.5 to 30, North Carolina, big win again for Biden, 43.7 to 24.5.
Oklahoma, a closer contest, interestingly, but still a sizable win, 38.6 to 25.4.
Tennessee, another sizable win, 41.8 to 25 for Biden.
And Texas, we wanted to win Texas.
Texas was important, but we didn't.
Oh, wait, let me do mainstream.
media.
Now that we lost Texas, Texas has always been irrelevant.
What's the big deal?
It was solely the third largest state in the country, who cares?
No, it was important and Biden won it.
Beto O'Rourke might have helped him there, but certainly all the momentum helped him.
So 34 to 30, basically.
Last couple here, Utah, Bernie wins comfortably 34 to 17, Vermont, obviously he wins comfortably
15 to 22.
And then Virginia also an important state, and he won big, Biden won big there by 30 points.
So I just want to make one quick comment about Utah.
Remember, Utah is a state that was dealing with homelessness, especially in Salt Lake City.
And they just decided to give the homeless housing with no strings attached.
And the program worked.
So I bring that up because in the context of this race, you know, there's a lot of religious
people living in Utah, a lot of Mormons living in Utah.
But they also understand that some of the progressive policies do in fact work.
They had the privilege to experience them firsthand.
So I think that's the reason why you see such a huge margin for Bernie in Utah.
Yeah.
And finally guys, well, now we got trench warfare, two major candidates just like 2016, and
we're gonna go state to state to state, okay?
So next Tuesday, here we go again.
Don't miss a minute of it, we're gonna do it right here on TYT, Idaho, Michigan,
Michigan, which is gigantic, Mississippi, Missouri, really important, North Dakota, the state
of Washington.
The state of Washington is a large state.
Bernie has nice leads in the west normally.
We'll see what kind of momentum they have going into March 10th.
And then next Tuesday after that, March 17th, I don't tell about the morning to you, St.
Paddy's Day.
We're gonna do Arizona, Florida, Illinois, Ohio, gigantic, this race is nowhere.
near over, two enormous weeks left to go here and then many more, but those two weeks
are really important.
Last thing on it, debates, now we might have mono-a-mono, likely, Bernie versus Biden.
Can Biden finish a debate?
Well, you know how I feel about Biden's debate performance, and it has nothing to do,
well, it has a lot to do with substance, but it has more to do with his inability to speak
coherently, right? So I think the big question is, you know, will there be a debate that's compelling
enough to make an impact by March 17th, right? Yeah, so we're gonna have to see. And look,
the debate sometimes make a giant difference. When Elizabeth Warren eviscerated Mike Bloomberg,
he lost his momentum in all those states, and now he's dropped out. So remember, the presidential
race has more free media than anything else in the world.
So even Bloomberg with his whole fortune, having spent half a billion dollars on ads, couldn't
buy the race because the debates were so important.
So now Bernie versus Biden, the whole country's going to watch those debates.
And if Biden struggles to speak in complete sentences, it's going to be a real issue.
I guarantee you that the online media is not going to let it go, no matter how much the
mainstream media covers up for Biden.
Those are not gaffs, those are significant issues with his mental faculties.
That's just a fact, and Trump will eviscerate him on that stuff in the general election.
So let's go, game on.
All right, well, we're gonna take a break, and when we come back, I think it's really important
to show you a video that features veterans confronting Biden over his pro-war record.
And then later in the show, we will talk about Michael Bloomberg's decision.
to drop out of the Democratic primary race.
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So let me read some of your comments, and I want to make some points related to those.
Mucho horses, right, said, in member section.
That means many horses.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Just letting you know.
Okay, now I know.
Three years of Spanish, not a big deal.
No, look, man, I do talk, I didn't try to talk Spanish at some of the doors that I was knocking on when I was doing the campaign.
So I picked up some things.
No, I know much.
Anyway, much horses, right?
So the stock market went up 1,400 points today with health insurance companies leading the way.
The richer betting they are going to get richer.
Well, to that point, Bernie Sanders is pushing for a debate.
ASAP on health care with Joe Biden.
Oh yeah, on his health care?
On his health period?
Okay, no, that's great.
I would love that.
Riftmaster says, wait, jank has been barring some holds until now.
Oh, she.
Okay.
A little bit.
Uber progressive says I'm far more discouraged by congressional races we lost than the presidential race.
I hear you, brother, or sister.
So look, I lost last night, but I think that we picked up some lessons learned, which
is really important, which we'll talk about in the third hour.
And yes, I'm very discouraged that Jessica Cisneros lost to Quayr.
On the other hand, I think that his days are numbered.
So I'll explain why, it's not just Brando Hope.
There's a reason why it also relates to my race, let's do that in the third hour.
Mike Siegel won, he's on to a runoff in Texas, so certainly some progressives won.
And no holds Bart Hugo writes in already, okay, that's a handle.
Question, Jenk, if Warren endorses Bernie at the convention, can she transfer her delegates
to Bernie?
Yes, and in fact, Mayor Bill de Blasier was on the show yesterday, and he was making the case
that they should pledge delegates to one another ahead of time since they're the progressive
wing, we hope.
And last one, David Johnson says, donated on YouTube super chat, donated for the fourth time
today for the burning campaign, only real citizens will be citizens united, windfall
candidates like Biden and other corporate meat puppets, I agree.
There's so many more comments, but I just want to say, and some that included our
fundraising drive, which I appreciate you guys bringing up.
We did begin that yesterday, it is absolutely pivotal.
I was trying to get to 100,000 on the first day, which would have been amazing.
We're trying to get 2 million overall for the rest of the year.
That's 200,000 a month.
It would have been great to get the first half of March on the first day.
That would be the first day that we launched it.
But come on, too much.
Let's take a look at the thermometer.
95,000 2603.
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Real quick, speaking of what the audience wants, I do want to read one quick TYT live from
eclectic miscellania.
So is Jank Yager still demoted to co-host status?
I think he should have to fight to earn his spot back for main host status and editorial
control over the main show.
Anna Casparian, you need to have some demands before giving him back the reins.
And Chip Wuha says, do I smell an audience?
I don't know.
Okay, with this hair, how could I lose?
Okay, that's great, Jake.
Anyway, we'll talk more about it in the third hour.
Let's get to the rest of the news.
So, Joe Biden was confronted and accused of having blood on his hand by veterans who are concerned about his pro-war voting record.
Now, this occurred during a campaign stop in Oakland, California.
Let's hear what the veterans had to say.
You know my son.
That doesn't matter, right?
You know what it doesn't matter, right?
I'm not going after you, son.
You better know. I'm not.
You're not going after your son.
You're not going after you.
You're just qualified.
The blood is on your head.
Lord is on your head.
No.
They are king.
Brother and sister, God.
Iraq, you have game mistake.
And he's able to that.
to happen. He enabled that to happen. He is disqualified. No way he can be president. They're dead.
They're dead in Iraq. He will not be allowed to be present. Disqualified. Trump is going to go to.
So his pro-war votes in the past are certainly, you know, weaknesses that have been talked about by his political opponents, even in this Democratic.
primary race. In fact, Bernie Sanders, on the eve of Super Tuesday, put out a campaign ad that
focused on Biden's pro-war record. Let's take a quick look at that. Contrary to what some in my
party might think, Iraq was a problem that had to be dealt with. Weapons of mass destruction.
Weapons of mass destruction. Weapons of mass destruction. Weapons of mass destruction. Weapons of mass destruction.
We thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't. I never believed what Cheney and Bush said about
Iraq? I'm an Iraq veteran. I shipped to Iraq exactly six days after the war started. As a veteran,
I didn't see a lot of Trump children or other rich kids in the military. The military is all people
from middle class and lower middle class backgrounds. Those are the people that go to fight the wars.
I remember all the ginning up towards the war in Iraq, and I see the same thing now.
Soleimani was plotting imminent and sinister attacks on American diplomats and military personnel.
We have every expectation that people not only in Iraq, but in Iran, will view the American action last night as giving them freedom.
Well, I support Bernie Sanders because he doesn't take money from the defense contractors.
He hasn't been meeting with people to start the wars.
He's been meeting with people to fight the wars.
Bernie Sanders meets with working class families who have had family members who have fought in Iraq.
They show him what it's like when you come back from a war.
If you don't meet with those people, you don't understand that kind of hardship.
And moving forward in this primary race, I think it's incredibly important to look back to.
2016 and see the types of attacks that Trump successfully used against his opponent, Hillary
Clinton.
He talked about her vote for the Iraq war over and over again, and that certainly helped him.
It wasn't the top issue that helped him, but it was a big part of why people were ready for
someone who was anti-establishment, someone who might be a wild card, might be a complete
and utter disaster, but people didn't want the status quo.
So, look, for all the Democrats voting in these primary races, keep that in mind.
Think about the weaknesses and the vulnerabilities that someone like Joe Biden has and how that
will hurt him if he ends up being the Democratic nominee.
Yeah, so look, I don't, you're gonna be surprised because I don't love the over the top
confrontation.
I do.
Yeah, it's time.
You wouldn't be surprised by that.
And so the guy yelling, you're disqualified, you're disqualified, you're disqualified.
it's a little tough to deal with.
On the other hand, when he's giving him a heartfelt explanation in the beginning about
why he was worried about Biden's vote, et cetera, these politicians, they never have good answers,
right?
And I just did this.
So not that I did it successfully electorally, but if you watch any of the videos of me interacting
with voters, it's not that hard.
Say to him, hey, listen, brother, I regret that vote.
So you're right to be concerned about it.
about it, and I wish I hadn't done it, and here's what I thought, and just be human
for a second, just be human.
And I want over a lot of folks by being human.
But politicians, no, I don't want a bad moment, et cetera, and no, but not answering the
guy's question to me is a bad moment.
And most importantly here, are we gonna have a conversation about policy or are we not?
So this is a giant presidential race.
So both sides have plenty of name recognition.
They're both really well known.
Now we're at the point where, okay, what does Biden think about foreign policy?
What does Bernie think about foreign policy?
That is monumentally important when you're picking a president.
I know, again, TV pundits always say like the policy's not important, don't talk
about who horse race, et cetera, but never talk about policy.
We're electing a president of the United States commander in chief, the most powerful person
on earth, how could that not be important?
I mean, what an empty shell of a person and pundit you are, if you think that this shouldn't
be something that we discuss?
And here they have giant differences, not just Iraq war, Biden has supported the hawks
over and over and over again.
His mindset is, well, I mean, look, we've got an assert American power, which means get
into stupid, senseless wars.
Bernie obviously doesn't agree with that, enormous difference.
Put aside all the other nonsense, vote on policy, because it's going to affect your life.
It might be your kids that we sent to the next war that Biden starts.
So Biden has struggled to answer any questions about his previous votes, his pro-war
votes, because his pro-war votes are indefensible.
So with Iraq, what have we heard from Biden so far?
His number one line of defenses, I trusted Bush, and would you look at that, he lied to us.
He lied to me.
I was disappointed that he lied to me.
What are you talking about?
I mean, are you a leader or not?
Because if you want to lead a country, if you just simply believe anything anyone tells
you, that's not what a leader does.
A leader digs in for him or herself to try to figure out what the best course of action
is.
And so that was an incredibly weak defense.
And look, I usually would say that I don't like aggressive confrontation where someone's yelling
at another person.
because you don't get anything accomplished.
But as you mentioned correctly, it started off calm, that is a veteran.
That is a type of person, by the way, that politicians love to exploit for their own political gain, right?
Oh, we care about the veterans, oh, we support the troops, oh, we wanna do everything we can to improve the VA.
They'll exploit that demographic for political gain.
But look at this, this was an opportunity for Joe Biden to speak to a veteran.
in a calm way and answer the questions that this veteran deserves answers to, right?
And then he walks away.
He tries to change the conversation about what happened to the men and women who lost their
lives in Iraq to Joe Biden's son.
And then he just walked away.
So guess what?
If I was that passionate about anything and a politician just walked away, turned his back
and walked away from me like that, I would yell too.
I would be frustrated and I would be angry.
Yeah.
The funny thing is the minute the veterans don't agree with right wing propaganda, then
they become inconvenient.
Totally.
And so I love veterans standing up for themselves who are sick of the wars and sick of their
friends dying in endless and senseless wars.
What do we get out of Iraq?
What do we get out of Afghanistan?
Can anyone answer that question?
Even Trump's running against it, you know, at least pretending, you know, what we lost other
than that all of that blood that that veteran's talking about and all those guys that died
on our side and Iraqi civilians, $6.4 trillion.
Hey, Joe, how are you gonna pay for that?
Hey, look, is there gonna be any accountability for any establishment politician?
So they asked Bernie Sanders nonstop, how are you gonna pay for Medicare for all when it actually
cost less money?
Joe, how are you gonna make up the $6.4 trillion in the wars that you authorized that we got
nothing from, nothing at all.
All we had was lost.
Joe, where are you gonna find that $6.4 trillion?
What a monumental mistake.
So lastly, Biden's excuses, I trusted George Bush and Dick Cheney.
Well, I think that's disqualifying.
I mean, if you're so unintelligent that you thought Dick Cheney had good intentions
and you trusted him, that's like Trump's saying I trusted Putin.
I thought he was a good guy, so whatever he says, I agree.
Cheney is on the same level.
I mean, you could agree with him policy-wise, but if you think he's like a good guy who's just
go, golly, gee, I'm just giving it to you like it is, and you go, oh my God, he, oh, yeah,
I trust him.
Then you're a moron.
So I have to give you one specific quote from Biden.
And this was, to the lead up to the Iraq war, this was when he was encouraging his fellow senators
to vote in favor of the Iraq invasion, okay?
So let me just note, 77 senators did vote in favor of it, meaning not every senator was on board,
right?
There were senators like Barbara Boxer at the time who were like, do we believe that there are weapons
of mass destruction?
Are we really going to go in this path?
And here's the type of answer that Joe Biden would give them.
He said, quote, at each pivotal moment, Biden said of Bush, he has chosen a course of moderation
and deliberation.
And I believe he will continue to do so.
At least that is my fervent hope.
You know, look, again, even if you believe Joe Biden that he's not doing it because he has
a right-wing mindset, he's a hawk, he gets money from defense contractors, okay, let's say none
of that is true.
Then he really is the most gullible, awshucks idiot I've ever seen in politics.
Like, oh, I think George Bush is a moderate who's being deliberate, and golly, gee, I think
that they're gonna, Bush and Cheney are gonna continue to do that.
Really?
No way, that's way more disqualifying them.
Your intelligence is, I mean, way under 100 at your IQ.
We can't have someone that dumb as Commander-in-Chief.
We already had one guy like that, we have them now, and it's been an absolute disaster.
Jake, if someone came to me and said, you need to make a decision right now, okay, and
the decision that you make could, like, it could lead to the deaths of even, or a death.
One person could die if you make the wrong decision.
Jake, someone who you trust and you have a good relationship with believes that you
You should say yes to what I'm proposing.
Do you think that I would just be like, oh, I believe in trust in Jake, so I'm just going
to say yes, hell no, hell no.
If people's lives are on the line, I am going to make sure that I make the right decision.
And that doesn't mean that I'm just going to simply believe someone, even if it's someone
that I do actually trust and have a good relationship with.
Let alone, instead of one person, 37 people, could you have 37 people in a room all dying?
Wait a minute, how about 700,000 people and take away someone you trust and insert Sean Hannity.
Well, I think, you know, Sean Hannity is gonna moderate, has been moderate and deliberate.
Sean Hannity.
Oh, well, that's an extreme example.
George Bush, George W. Bush, there was nothing moderate or deliberate about George W. Bush.
He proudly said, I don't do nuance.
He was massively conservative.
And besides which, you didn't know Dick Cheney was a big part of that?
And you think George, Dick Cheney was modern and deliberate?
Dick Cheney is worse than Sean Hannity, saying, well, I just trusted that Dick Cheney would
have everybody's best interest in mind.
And so there was hundreds of thousands of people's lives on the line.
So I trusted Dick Cheney, totally disqualifying.
We gotta take a break.
When we come back though, we're not done with Joe Biden yet.
The Trump campaign has decided that Biden is gonna be the frontrunner, so they've already given
us a glimpse in how they plan to attack him, and they've got a lot of good material.
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Let me go do smooth, he says, I met a lot of veterans in standing Iraq who have similar
sentiment to wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Also what he said about Iraqi citizens is huge.
Veterans speak far more about the dead civilians in foreign countries than mainstream media
does.
I made a pastor in Lancaster who is a Vietnam veteran and he says something that really shook
me.
He said the main thing that he took back home from Vietnam was the guilt.
Because they were asked to kill people, and they did.
And he just couldn't shake the guilt.
So that's interesting and haunting.
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A lot of folks said similar things here, I'll just read this one.
He said, you know what's going to happen when Sanders calls out his vote for Iraq?
He'll say, I lost my son there, so I understand the loss, and people are going to eat it up
and forget that he helped make it happen.
Now, to clarify, as Kate Shea did in the earlier tweet, Biden misspoke there.
He tried to correct it, so I'm okay with it.
His son did not die in Iraq.
His son died of cancer, which is tragic, but he didn't die in Iraq.
Iraq, but I know from my experience, when you're in politics, a lot of times in motion
is the only thing that matters, like when he says I lost my son, everybody stops paying
attention to the facts.
They're like, oh, and that's true, but what is your healthcare position?
What is your position on the war?
But the minute you play that card, it's good night, Irene.
And so it sucks that people react that way, but it's true.
So we'll see how Bernie handles that.
All right.
All right.
Now that Joe Biden appears to be the frontrunner in the Democratic primary, and keep in mind the Democratic
primary is not over yet, the Republicans have decided to start their attacks.
And they have become incredibly vicious because Joe Biden is a target-rich environment.
Now if some of you are wondering what I mean by that, journalist Walker Bragman put together this
compilation video that will show you exactly what I mean.
We hold these truths to be self-evident.
All men and women created by the go, you know the thing.
Tomorrow's Superstar Tuesday.
All right, Chuck.
Thank you very much.
All right.
It's Chris, but anyway.
My name's Joe Biden.
I'm a Democratic candidate for the United States Senate.
Look me over.
If you're like we see, help out if not vote for the other by.
I love this place.
Look, what's not to like about Vermont?
One of the things I'm proudest of is getting past.
getting moved, getting control of the Paris Climate Accord.
I'm the guy that came back after meeting with Deng Xiaoping and making the case that I believe China would join if we put pressure on them.
You had people like Margaret Thad, excuse me, you had people like the former chairman and leader of the party in Germany.
Go to Joe 303.3.0.
Watch what happened when those kids from Parkland came up to see me when I was vice president.
They went under the, and some of you covered it.
So Biden tells this story or some version of it a lot.
He says that, you know, he went on this military trip and it was dangerous, but he wanted to go anywhere.
And he goes to the Konar province of Afghanistan.
And he hears about how this man had climbed down into a ravine to rescue a fallen soldier.
And he comes back up and he doesn't want to get this medal because he feels so heartbroken that his fellow comrade has fallen.
That's about three different really heroic war stories.
All kind of push together into one anecdote.
Joe Biden has made all sorts of statements about his activism in the civil rights movement.
Now, in the beginning of his career, he made similar statements that he's making today on the campaign trail.
And then he got caught lying. And for a huge chunk of his political career, he stopped telling those lies.
This day, 30 years ago, Nelson Mandela walked out of prison and entered into discussions about apartheid.
I had the great honor of meeting him. I had the great honor of being arrested with our youth.
U.N. ambassador on the streets of Soweto, the only African-American woman that had ever been
elected to the United States Senate.
A whole range of people.
My point is true.
The other one is here.
Play the radio, make sure the television, excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night.
So that will be the situation on the debate stage in the general election if he becomes the Democratic
nominee, he will be up against Donald Trump, who I've said a million times, I get it, he's not
some brilliant, intelligent guy, but he's vicious, and he is able to form complete sentences
without forgetting what he's talking about, without having the type of stumbles that you just
saw in that lengthy video compilation.
Yeah, it's not one or two times.
Look, I don't care what the mainstream media says about anything, and certainly not this.
Oh, it's impolite to point out that Joe Biden is having significant issues with his mental
faculties.
Do you think Trump is going to be polite to him?
Do you think the Republican Party is going to be polite to him?
No, they're going to rip him apart in the general election.
Last night, after his victory, he said, now this is my little sister Valerie and pointed
to his wife.
No, no, no, no, we're having significant mental faculties issues, okay, we are.
So they're not wrong to bring up senility.
What is going on?
He's a vote for the other Biden.
I mean, he doesn't know which state he's in.
He doesn't know what the hell is going on.
And this is the guy that the establishment thinks is definitely going to be Trump.
But Bernie, who does so well with independents, can't beat Trump, makes no sense at all.
No, we're going to point it out that all those things that he said there were really problematic.
Walker's right to put together the video.
And I don't care what anybody says about it.
That's the reality of Joe Biden.
And it is a big, big problem.
And he will lose to Donald Trump.
We can't have it.
This is out of control.
Like how much have we as a country lowered the bar for qualifications to become president?
Because let's say in the ideal scenario, if Biden becomes the Democratic nominee, right?
So first of all, I don't think that he'd have an easy time beating Trump.
But let's say best case scenario, he does.
Is everyone okay with Biden being president of the United States when he's having difficulty
remembering the name of, you know, politicians that he'd be dealing with on a regular basis.
When he has a hard time remembering which state he's in, we can't remember the Declaration
of Independence.
That's a huge issue, right?
So even in the best case scenario, we're in a lot of trouble with him leading the country.
And by the way, like, we're having a discussion about whether or not this is polite.
I don't care.
This is to choose the right person to lead the country for at least four years.
Yeah, now the establishment is having a conversation, everybody's, to be fair, everybody's having a conversation of, well, look, if Biden picks a really good, smart, young, able, vice president might be okay.
Wait, so our backup plan is to pick a good vice president for the senile president?
No, but that's not even our backup plan.
We don't get to pick who the vice president is, right?
Yeah.
So our best hope is that someone who we did not elect.
will end up being the leader of the country if something happens to Biden.
That's, is that what we want, really?
Look, we just saw the 25th Amendment has almost no chance of ever being used.
Donald Trump, you could have easily made a case with the 25th Amendment, and I did over and
over again.
And you remember the oranges of that story.
So I mean, guys, there's unbelievable things, not just stupid things, mixing out words like
oranges and origins over and over and over again.
And they thought it was a coup to do the 25th Amendment.
No, if you got a senile president, you got a senile president, it's over, right?
And that's your good case scenario.
The bad case scenario is his senility, costless the election, and the monster Donald Trump
is back in office, who's both arguably senile and malicious.
And I think that that would be the most likely scenario if Biden were to be the Democratic nominee.
In fact, the attacks have begun.
Yesterday, we spoke about how Donald Trump has become, began attacking Biden on Twitter.
He put, someone in his campaign put together their own compilation video.
Trump's campaign manager just tweeted out another compilation video showing all of these gaffs
and mistakes that Biden has made on the campaign trail.
And then you have a conversation that included Brit Hume, yes, he's into the latex vixons.
But he also makes a really good point here, even though his panel is a little.
like, oh, no, this is, this is inappropriate. But listen to what he says, because he's right.
There are two kinds of Biden gaffs. They're the kind he's always made. Correct. And maybe
this one tonight was one of those. He's prone to that always has been, it's no big deal.
But more recently, we've seen cases in which he didn't know where he was. He didn't know.
Well, listen, Chuck over here has something to say. That, those are more disturbed because they suggest
that he may be non-composed menace, or at least, or he's headed in that direction.
That's the way it is with voters with Joe Biden. But how many of the people have voted?
for him tonight would agree that he's senile, or getting there.
Wow, I think that's a little.
Yeah, I don't think they would think he was senile.
I think that's a little harsh.
Hey, that's Joe.
We know Joe.
Joe knows us as Jim Clyburn's then.
It doesn't matter if he knows where he is or not.
Well, I know, of course.
Okay.
I don't think that.
We're going to wrap it up there.
No, no, but so look, even though it's Fox, they're still in the club.
So what Bridhume is saying is a legitimate question.
And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Joe Biden's in the club.
By the way, will they turn around during the general election?
Guaranteed.
If Biden's the nominee, every one of those people except Juan Williams will then turn around
and go, ah, well, we can't have it, we can't have it, can't have it.
But right now when you mention, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, ha, ha, ho.
But Brit Hume is also right to point out two different kinds of gas.
Biden's always made gaps, like talking about how every 7-Eleven and Dunkin Donuts has someone
who's Indian or has an Indian accent.
In Delaware, that's a gap, that's a thing you shouldn't say as a politician.
Or as anyone.
Confusing New Hampshire for Vermont when you're in a super election, important election
in New Hampshire is totally different.
Confusing your wife or your sister is totally different.
That's not a gaff.
That is potential issues of senility.
And Juan Williams' argument here makes good arguments overall, but not this one.
He's like, no, people will say we know Joe.
Yeah, I mean, I've known a lot of close family members and family friends who, why, why,
up having issues with remembering things, right?
And I knew them, but then they couldn't remember anyone, including me.
So that's very sad, but probably a lot of you have gone through that.
As much as you love that person, would you have that person be the candidate against Trump
or the president of the United States?
So there's one other angle that I want to talk about, and I'm going to reset for it because
it's not just about the gaffs, it's also about how.
I think a huge Achilles heel that I think the Democratic Party is discounting for the moment,
but it's going to be a huge problem.
So let's get to that.
So Biden is a target-rich environment, not just based on the things that he said, but you also
have to consider the impeachment investigation that just took place, obviously, the impeachment
of Donald Trump, and the accusations that were lodged against the Biden's as a result
of that impeachment investigation.
Now we're learning, and this was definitely expected.
through Politico, that Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson told reporters
that he is likely to release an interim report within one to two months on his panel's
probe of Hunter Biden's ties to Ukrainian gas company, Burisma.
And then he was quoted as saying, there are questions that Joe Biden has not adequately
answered. And if I were a Democrat primary voter, I'd want to see these questions
satisfactorily answered before I cast my final vote.
And then Representative Jim Hines is irritated by this because he feels that it's a political
move because of course, of course it's a political move and you should have known that
this was coming.
He was quoted as saying after hearing nothing about Burisma over the course of the last couple
weeks, the Republicans will revive it in a perfect demonstration of what this means to them, which
which is to be a cudgel to beat Joe Biden with.
Yes, exactly, exactly.
How did you guys not see this coming as you're propping up your beloved establishment candidate
who's gonna keep the status quo and keep the system that you all love and enjoy so much?
Just keep in mind that he has weaknesses that you're totally discounting.
They know who their rivals are.
They know what Republicans are capable of.
And yet over and over again, they prop up these incredibly weak candidates that will
will undoubtedly lose the general election to Donald Trump.
Yeah, so this one's a little bit more mixed.
So on the one hand, yes, Biden is a weak establishment candidate and the Republicans are
going to lean in on all of these issues.
On the other hand, I don't want to pick our candidate based on how the Republicans are
going to attack him if the attack has no merit.
So in the case of Biden's potential senility, it might have merit.
In this case, no, this is another drummed up Benghazi, IRS, you know, the gun programs,
the emails, et cetera.
But emails I think did actually, you know, I don't think that was the top factor that led
to Hillary Clinton losing the election, but it had an impact.
But you know, to me the emails were, the fact that they went after her on the emails
was less impactful than the fact that they, that Hillary Clinton in the establishment didn't
know how to fight back.
So, because they're gonna drum up an investigation on every candidate.
It doesn't, that's what Republicans do.
You think they won't do it to Bernie?
Yeah, they'll invent something.
It doesn't matter.
Yeah, the guy's the one honest politician of our lifetimes, but they'll invent something.
They'll be like, oh my God, he once didn't kiss a baby, et cetera.
It doesn't matter.
Maybe you're right and maybe they'll invent something.
But look, in this case, we both agree, right?
while the Bidens are unlikely to be guilty of what the Republicans are specifically accusing
them of, the fact of the matter is, there is an issue here, and it at least looks like corruption,
right? It certainly looks like nepotism. It certainly looks like a person who wasn't qualified
to serve on that foreign board got that position because of his father. And people don't like
that. Look, that is also mixed. So, but it goes to the point you're making. So the part
that I'll defend the Biden's on is, or at least Joe Biden on, is that everybody who's looked
into this says that he did not help his son get that position, and he did not cover up corruption
in Ukraine. So it's unfair to put that on Biden. On the other hand, everybody also knows that
Hunter Biden got that position on the board that was really well paying because his last name
was Biden. No one could say otherwise, except that honestly, again, the idiot establishment,
politicians in the Democratic Party and the media who all participate in the very similar corruption.
Oh, your son gets this, my daughter gets that, my wife gets this.
And so they think like, oh, what Biden did is fine, it's fine, of course all of our sons
should get board positions where they get paid $600,000 to do absolutely nothing on a topic
they know nothing about.
But what they don't understand is the rest of the country hates that.
They can't stand that corruption.
So that part is an actual weakness for Biden.
But I don't want you to, like the Republicans are absurd.
Ron Johnson said, as Anna just quoted to you, if I were a Democratic primary voter, I'd want
these questions satisfactorily answered before I cast my final vote.
He then says Johnson insisted, recording Politico, that the timing of this pro has nothing
to do with the election calendar.
You just said it did.
You just mentioned the votes and how you should make sure that you know this about Biden before
you vote. I mean, who are you kidding? These Republicans are hacks. Hacks. So my final point
is not necessarily the Republicans are going to attack the Democratic candidate. They will attack
the Democratic candidate, no matter who it is viciously. The question is, can that person defend
themselves? No. And Biden has a history of saying, oh, my Republican colleagues, give me a hug.
I know you're good people. I know you're good people. And I know when I win, you're going to
want to work with me.
Well, you're never gonna beat the Republicans that way by trying to kiss their ass.
How about we go with progressives who actually wanna kick their ass?
If you are a Democrat who has not made up your mind yet, and you are on the fence between
Bernie or Biden, which God help you if you are, please, if you genuinely care about beating
Donald Trump, consider how weak Biden is as a candidate, okay?
Get your head out of the sand and understand that you are risking the future of this country
by promoting, propping up, or voting in favor of someone like Joe Biden, period.
End a story, okay?
Let's all wake up.
Now is the time to fight.
This is no joke.
Yeah, and I hope Bernie and his supporters will do this.
I'm one of his supporters, I'll certainly do it.
When Ron Johnson says this, my investigations are not focused on the Bidens, they're just
not, but I can't ignore them because they're part of the story.
Yeah, you probably would have done an investigation on a rando company in a completely different
country, if your opponent's son wasn't on the board, oh man, I'm just going to look into this
company randomly in Tajikistan, because I'm really animated, but oh my, look at that.
Huh, my opponent's son is out.
Get out of here.
You're not doing any random investigations.
You're a hack.
So you need progressives like us who are strong that are going to say Ron Johnson is an obvious,
obvious liar.
And everyone in the country knows this is political.
the Republican voters know it's political.
Now, can you imagine any establishment candidate or their supporters saying that on TV?
Oh, my beloved colleague Ron Johnson.
Oh, I do disagree with him a little bit on this over Crumpets.
No, let's go fight them and win.
Crumpets sound delicious right now.
Anyway, we gotta take a break.
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