The Young Turks - TYT Extended Clip - March 5th, 2020

Episode Date: March 6, 2020

Elizabeth Warren has ended her presidential campaign. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the Young Turks. Jake Huger, I was about to say Ben Mancliffe. Yeah, you were. That really is back to the young Turks from a long, long time ago. Anna Consparing, obviously. You are canceled? I'm not a big fan of cancel culture, but you are canceled. It's over.

It certainly wouldn't be the first time and it won't be the last time. I've been canceled many, many times, yet here I am. Yeah, just can't get rid of you, what's going on? Well, trust me, people are trying. Yeah. Okay, so lots of news, Lizzoth Warren's dropped out. talk about that first, obviously. But guys, Bernie versus Biden, the next two weeks are everything.

Super Tuesday, we had a shot for a knockout punch. We didn't land it. Now we got a drag out fight. The problem is the media, the media, the media, the media, the media, the media, it's everything. I actually want to talk more about it in the post game. We talked about my race yesterday in the post game, I want to tell you two more things. And it's a hilarious and ironic thing to say that I think I might have solved politics after I just got my ass handed to me in this race.

Jake, even if you won, like, you have these phases where you say things like that. Like I saw, I've solved politics. Like what is that even- Well, I said I solved life and I did. But you didn't. But I did. Okay, anyway, we're gonna talk about that in the post game and a shocking fact about my race. So that's t.y.t.com slash joining it the last half hour of the young Turks, and oftentimes

even longer, especially on election nights and don't miss election night next Tuesday, giant, giant night. So, and of course we're doing our fundraising drive, tyt.com slash go. It's absolutely imperative. It is, especially because Jake desperately needs a button-down shirt to go with that blazer. Otherwise, he will continue wearing that t-shirt, which is unacceptable with the blazer. Just unacceptable, and it makes me upset every time he does it. Stopp2.com. All right, let's move on. I am suspending my campaign for president. I say this with a deep sense of gratitude for every single person who got in this fight.

Elizabeth Warren speaking right in front of her home in Massachusetts and letting everyone know in an announcement that she is no longer running for president. in the Democratic primary, this was a decision that people have been waiting for, and she finally made it. Now, we're going to get to whether she's going to endorse anyone in just a minute. But before we do, I want to go to the next clip where she kind of describes what she's feeling and what she sees herself doing moving forward. You know, I was told at the beginning of this whole undertaking that there are two lanes. A progressive lane that Bernie Sanders is the incumbent for and a moderate lane that Joe Biden

is the incumbent for. And there's no room for anyone else in this. I thought that wasn't right, but evidently I was wrong. I thought it was possible that that wasn't the case, that there was more room and more room to run another kind of campaign, but evidently that wasn't the case. So that's a really interesting take because she positioned herself as a strong progressive in the beginning of the primary, and then she moved to the center. And the way that she kind of framed it was that she was always somewhere in between Bernie

Sanders and Joe Biden. And now, to be honest with you, many people had suspected that in the beginning of the race. But she didn't position herself that way in the beginning of the race. She went from progressive to a little more moderate, right? And that tends to upset people who bought into the progressive identification. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, I do. Look, first of all, there's no joy in this.

I was excited when some of the other moderates dropped out. I should theoretically, politically speaking, be more excited that Elizabeth Warren is dropping out because some of her supporters are a larger portion of her supporters might go to Bernie Sanders. But a lot of them already did, and I, and so, whereas the modest were more split up. But it isn't about that, look, you know, I've said this a thousand times and I have gotten plenty of criticism for too that I really support and admire Elizabeth Warren. I think she's done great, great work, consumer financial protection bureau, Wall Street reform, you name it, okay.

So, so at the end of the day I backed Bernie Sanders. I want Bernie Sanders to win, I think that the correct lane for Elizabeth Warren was right next to Bernie Sanders, same policies, but for whatever reason the establishment and moderates in the party found her to be a little bit safer than Bernie Sanders. And I think a good strategy was saying, hey, I could better, more effectively carry out those plans. And she was on that road, and that's exactly when she was winning. She got, she veered off that road to try to get moderate voters and that, that did not turn out well.

The mainstream media has their own spin. They claim that she became more progressive, but that's just counterfactual. So I actually- It's not true, not remotely true. You are right, generally speaking, that is how the media has covered her campaign. They refused to acknowledge the fact that she started losing support as soon as she started to position yourself as more of a moderate. But I do want to give a credit, I do want to give credit to some of the writers on CNN.com, because this was the first time I came across a mainstream media source that accurately depicted

what happened, okay? So they write, her standing began to slip in the fall when her support for Medicare for all came under stricter scrutiny from moderate rivals like Biden, Klobuchar, Buttigieg. In response, she released a pair of proposals, one to finance Medicare for all. And another, that would have effectively broken up the bill into two pieces. Warren's attempts to quiet the critics backfired. Opponents of Medicare for all, boosted by an industry spending campaign designed to drive down its popularity, continued their attacks.

Progressives, too, became dissatisfied, voicing concerns over the senator's commitment to passing the legislation. So I think that that's the best depiction of what actually happened, at least in the mainstream media. I think that that's fair. It gives you both sides of it, and I think it's relatively accurate. Certainly I heard from the progressive side. And I, the first portion where she explained how she's going to pay for it, Anna and

and I disagreed. That's where she began to lose Anna, I was still fine with it. The second portion where she split it into two is where she lost me. But clearly those are both in the more moderate to conservative direction and not in the progressive direction. That's an obvious fact. indisputable. So that's that, and then that's when she started to slide. So those are the facts. Now, guys, the most important thing, we got more clips for you guys. And it's important that you

hear out her stories here and I want to add to them. But right now, Elizabeth Warren can change the entire dynamic of this race. Yes. And we need Elizabeth Warren. We need her right now. So I know some of you out there might think like, oh, no, we don't need her. Okay, we're going to take care of this on our own. No, you have to change the media dynamic. Right now, the media is piling onto Bernie Sanders in a way that is oppressive and that is making a big, big difference. I can see it in the upcoming polls of the states, right? So right now, Sanders and Biden are tied, but the media is playing it like it's all over and Biden's already won, which is preposterous. But if Warren were to come in super strong on behalf of Bernie Sanders, it would

make all the difference here, because it would tie the, it would basically stop that momentum that Biden has in the media, which is so critical. So if she doesn't do that, an unbelievable missed opportunity. But if she does do it, in a sense she could become the hero of the story. Okay, so I disagree with you slightly. I think the media is going to pile on Bernie no matter what, right? However, I also agree that Warren endorsing Bernie would be a game changer because it would help him considerable.

Yes, game changer. So look, and I get the frustration among Bernie supporters, I'm a Bernie supporter, I certainly feel the frustration because she should have endorsed, in my opinion, immediately Bernie Sanders, because remember, the whole reason why she got involved in politics is because she wanted to fight Joe Biden specifically because of his bankruptcy bill. And the fact that she's waiting on this is frustrating. And by the way, I just like, you know, I just like jumped ahead of myself. She has decided that she's gonna hold off on endorsing right now.

She is likely to endorse, but the big question is, is she going to endorse during the primary or is she could endorse during the general election, which is what she did last time around. Now let me go to the clip. No, no, that's not an endorsement. Let's be super clear. It's not, but that's what she did last time. No, no, no, no, no.

That's a little different situation. Waiting until the general election is the most useless thing in history, Elizabeth Warren is too smart to not know that. She knows that, okay? There's a reason why she held last time, and so, and I don't agree with that decision. But this time, it's time for redemption. And so, I mean, you can't even consider endorsing Biden when you got into politics to defeat Biden's bankruptcy bill.

That's, I don't know why we're having that conversation. I hope we're not having that conversation. Oh, that conversation is definitely being. Well, no, to be fair to warn, we don't know what she's listening to. Her advisors can say anything they want, it's her decision. But in terms of endorsing Bernie, forget the general election. The states that are coming up on this Tuesday are critical. And the ones next Tuesday, critical, this is it, this is it, these two sets of states.

So waiting longer than before those elections, that is generally pointless. So let's hear what you asked to say. It's got to go not just, not today, but it's got to happen before Tuesday. It's got to. Otherwise, there's no point. So let's hear her out. Will you be making an endorsement today? We know that you spoke with both Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders yesterday.

Not today. Not today. I need some space around this. And I want to take a little time to think a little more. Senator, advice to your supporters right now looking for a candidate. What is your advice to them? Obviously, I know you're not endorsing anybody, but what is your advice to them? Let's take a deep breath and think about this for a little bit longer before we all settle in.

What is there to think about? There's a lot to think about. Look, we did not have her experience. Her experiences, she just ran this really, really hard campaign. And I, look, the pressure that she must have been under on that campaign, they all were under is enormous. And during elections, you catch feelings, right? And so, and you're getting hit on all sides. She certainly perceives that.

So, and she definitely did not react well. I'm not blaming her for it. I'm just saying that she did not like being attacked by Bernie Sanders supporters in her perception. So she's, okay, so she's got to sort that out. Look, say, your doors now is not necessarily helpful. And I understand the need to think about it and constrate, et cetera, and not to get pressured into any decision.

At the same time, thinking about it doesn't mean, think about it for two weeks, because then again, pointless. Thinking about it means one to two days, because after Tuesday, it could be irrelevant. So that's just a fact. If she says that's pressuring her, it doesn't matter. The elections are on Tuesday, so that's a fact. I have to, and I'm doing my best to be level-headed and not get too fiery during the segment. But I have to reject the framing that Bernie supporters attacked her viciously.

The attacks- No, no, no, no, but I'm not saying that, I'm saying that was her perception of it. Right, but I pushed back against her perception of that. Because when Bernie supporters started going after her, it was specifically in response to the accusations that she made about Bernie Sanders telling her that a woman can't win as president, which no one believes. No one- All right, but this is not helpful. I know, okay, so let's move on.

Let's move on because I hear you. I wanna go to the next clip though because Bernie Sanders is saying, yeah, you know what, let's all back off and let's allow her the time that she needs to make the decision. Let's watch. Would you consider asking Senator Warren to be a running mate? It's too early to talk about that. But certainly I have a lot of respect for Senator Warren and would love to sit down and talk to her about what kind of role she can play in our administration.

So we have a poll for this, and we want you guys to weigh in and let us know what you think. The poll is, now that Elizabeth Warren is out of the race, whom will she endorse? And then you have three options there, Bernie Sanders, Biden, or no one. So please check the poll out. It's t.yt.com slash Warren, t.yt.com slash Warren. Guys, understand, we're not asking you who should she endorse. We get that you would say Bernie. Okay, some of you might say Biden, but that would be an easy poll overall.

Who do you think she's going to endorse? And I don't know what you're going to say about that, because you and I are different people. That's why we're doing the poll. Yeah, so there was one other clip I wanted to share with you from her decision, and it has to do with the two remaining contenders in the Democratic primary and what they represent demographically. Take a look. I will not be running for president in 2020, but I guarantee I will stay.

I will stay in the fight for the hardworking folks across this country who've gotten short into the stick over and over. What your message would be to the women and girls who feel like we're left with two white men to decide between? I know. One of the hardest parts of this is all those petty promises and all those little girls who are going to have to wait four more years. That's going to be hard.

So I agree with her in that it would have been much more, I guess, preferable to have her in the race as opposed to a man who is experiencing cognitive decline right before our very eyes, someone who's a target rich environment. I'm talking specifically about Biden. I think the saddest part about this race is that Biden is being propped up by the mainstream press when he is the most vulnerable candidate in the general election. That's incredibly sad. But look, I get it. One day, I want to see a woman as president. I want to see an Asian American one day as president. I want to see a gay individual as president.

I think representation matters. But it's also about electing the right person to represent your best interests. So just simply supporting someone based on their race or their gender, but ignoring their politics or ignoring their policies makes no sense to me. And this topic keeps coming up over and over again. again, as if like, hey, nothing matters, just the identity of the candidate should matter. And the fact that you have two people left who are white men should be very sad. Well, yeah, sure, it's sad because I'd like to see more diversity, but what do these two

individuals represent? And are we actually talking about the substance of these people as opposed to something that they can't control, which is their gender or their race? Yeah, I understand that. Of course I understand that. At the same time, we're not talking about a Betsy DeVos here. Like, I would just elect her because she's a woman. We're not talking even about an A.B. Klobuchar, who we don't agree with.

Elizabeth Warren, certainly for 80% of this race, was someone we really, really agreed with. So it would have been wonderful to see that as well. And that's still possible. It's in the realm of possibility. If these are not, these are decisions way, way above my pay grade. But if she were to be vice president one day, could she be president one day? They certainly possible. And the Pinky Promise thing, if you don't know what it is, actually I think it's super touching.

She would do it with her youngest female supporters, quote, so that they'll remember that running for president is what girls do. And I love that. And so of course she's disappointed that she couldn't, in a sense, deliver for them. That's the sense I had in my tiny brief run, and let alone the gigantic run she had and the responsibility she must have felt towards all of them. But I want to end on this, why do we keep going back to the media? Because they painted it as, for example, in the beginning, that Elizabeth Warren was misrepresenting

things by claiming Native American ancestry that her family told her she had her whole life, right? And they're like, can you believe she's doing that, et cetera, and they ate and abetted Donald Trump's smears of her. Then Joe Biden says that he got arrested with Nelson Mandel. fighting apartheid, you want to talk about misrepresenting on an issue related to race? That is a thousand times worse, 10,000 times worse, a million times worse than what Elizabeth Warren did, if you think what Elizabeth Warren did was wrong. Anyone with any sense, any logic can tell you that.

But the media is like, oh yeah, lying about stolen valor with Nelson Mandela in an outrageous, preposterous, absurd, and immoral lie, no big deal. But let's talk 24-7 nonstop about Elizabeth Warren's heritage related to race. So it is so hard for progressives to overcome this. And the only way to overcome it is to unite. So this is it. We must unite now if we don't, all might be lost. We're going to take a break when we come back.

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So she at this point is critical to the progressive movement in Bernie Sanders. It ain't ever about Bernie Sanders. It's always about the progressive movement, right? And he just happens to be the leader of it right now. But if she backs Biden, for example, again, I just find it unthinkable, unimaginable. But if she did, she'd be at the bottom of their totem pole and they'd throw her overboard the first chance they got. On top of being wrong, immoral, et cetera, it would be the most foolish political thing you could

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I believe in you guys. All right, let's see what we got. All right, Anna, go ahead. All right. The notion of a contested convention at the Democratic National Convention sounds a little less likely. However, Bernie Sanders was asked about what he would do if Joe Biden wins the plurality of pledged delegates, but not the majority necessary. to win the nomination. Now, famously, every single candidate, including all those who dropped out, indicated that they

would not give the nomination to the individual with the plurality. But what would Bernie Sanders do? Take a look. It turns out that Vice President Biden is going to have more delegates than you do heading into the convention. Will you drop out? That question, drop out, he will win. I mean, we'll run through, I suspect we will run through the process.

I think people have a right to vote. But if Biden walks into the convention or at the end of the process has more votes than he's to win. And that's true with whether or not he has a majority or just a plurality. Absolutely. Yeah, nice framing there, Rachel. I mean, she started that question out by just assuming that Biden's going to have more delegates than him going into the convention. I mean, right now he has more delegates than Bernie Sanders. There's no indication that it's impossible for Bernie to close that gap and to have the lead by the time they get to the convention.

But I don't know, am I wrong here? Yeah, no, you're not at all wrong. And first of all, I want to give credit to Bernie Sanders for being principled on this. He's saying, if I come in with the lead, even if it's a plurality, I should get it. But if Biden comes in with the lead, even if it's just a plurality, Biden should get it, not me. Now, has anyone else been consistent like that? No. When Bernie was leading, everybody was like, oh, plurality, doesn't mean anything, doesn't mean anything, doesn't mean anything, right?

Biden takes the lead. They're like, that's it, plurality, of course, obviously. Hey, Bernie, why don't you drop out now? You have no chance. You have no chance. Why don't you drop out? Wait a minute. What happened to, even if Bernie wins plurality, Biden and everyone else should stay in.

Right. Right? Yeah, I mean, it's a double standard, obviously. How do you not see that double standard? They said that if Bernie has the plurality, he shouldn't win anyway, that Biden should stay in all the way and then rob him at the convention. Now that Biden is taking a minuscule lead, they're like, Bernie, don't even do any of the rest of the states, don't go to the convention, don't ask for delegates, drop out of it. Come on. So look, I think I'm a little at fault here in regards to Rachel Maddo, which is that since I knew her before and we worked together before and she was very good to me when I first went to MSNBC, I have held my fire. And that's not fair to you guys. I listened to a large portion of that interview and it was terrible. Okay, so number one, you're gonna lose, so what are you gonna do when you lose, okay? You just saw it with your own eyes.

Just because you put it in a more sophisticated way, doesn't make it any better. That's still your framing. On an Obama got your question, which was actually the least offensive of all of them. She framed it with like, oh, you know, I'm such a liberal and I want liberals to win and I'm excited by you, but you know, you had an ad with Obama and it in Obama, come on, are you saying he's the establishment? Come on, go ahead, criticize Obama, I got it. We all know that gotcha question.

Every hack on cable news asked that same question. Oh, I bet if I can go to Bernie into criticizing Obama, then it'll make him more likely to lose. Rachel, you don't know that? Keep going, you don't know that. But actually, the worst one was, she asked about, oh, you're not getting enough of the African-American votes. Now, wait a minute, Rachel, you could be doing segments about how Joe Biden has lied about his civil rights record over and over and over and over again, pretending that he was at boycott, citizens, churches, protests that he was never at.

Have you done your long exposés on Biden on that and say how unacceptable he is? And how those are stolen valor, potentially racist. Did you talk about how Biden- Struggles to get the Latino vote, right? Who cares about that? Yeah, that's a great point. I want to get back to that in a second. And then how Obama picked Biden not because he was great with African-Americans.

Obama didn't need help with that. He picked him because he was more likely to get white. voters, why? Because he was against busing. He was for the crime bill that imprisoned millions of African Americans, et cetera. Instead of doing that, oh, you didn't get enough percentage of the African American vote in South Carolina, et cetera. So she asked three or four times about that, framing it like not only that African Americans don't like you, but there must be a secret reason why they don't like. That's the inference. Rachel, don't pretend that that's not your inference. That's the inference every single mainstream media person has. Why don't

African Americans like Bernie Sanders? No, as Bernie explained in his answer, Biden was Obama's vice president. Yes, that's going to give him some advantage with African Americans. That's the most obvious thing in the world. And Rachel, you don't know that? You don't know that being Obama's vice president might give him an advantage with African American voters? Please tell me you know that.

So framing it, insisting and asking over and over and over again makes it seem like Bernie has some sort of racial problem, which he does not have. In fact, there was one person involved in the civil rights movement. And it wasn't Joe Biden, it was Bernie Sanders. But did you insist on that in telling your audience? No, you didn't. And finally, now I didn't see Rachel do this in the interview, but I've seen other outlets say this over and over again.

And by omission, she did it, to your point, Anna, everybody's like, oh, Bernie didn't win enough votes among African Americans in South Carolina, it's over, it's over, racial problems, right? Is everybody doing the same thing to Joe Biden? He won almost no votes among Latinos in Nevada. What, Latinos don't count? Did anyone ask Bernie Sanders, how in the world did you get all of those Latinos? Such an overwhelming majority of Latinos in Nevada to vote for you.

I guess you must be incredibly popular. Well, Latinos and Joe Biden, why do Latinos hate you? No, never, never, never. You know, it's ironically, while trying to imply that Bernie Sanders must be doing something that rubs the African American community the wrong way. People like Rachel Maddow in the media do something that I would argue is incredibly insensitive and I just think ignorant of certain demographics, right? So the black community is not a monolith. They're not all the same. And people in the media keep treating everyone in the African American community as if they all had the exact same

political ideology. There's a pretty significant difference between older black voters and younger black voters. Older black voters, who definitely turned out for Joe Biden, tend to be a little more conservative. So they prefer a more moderate candidate, okay? And by the way, anyone who goes after those voters and says, oh, they're voting for Biden because they're ignorant, this and that, you're not helping either, okay? This is the candidate that they feel is going to best represent them, I don't think that it helps anyone's case by calling anyone ignorant, but I do think it is ignorant to assume that everyone

who's black or everyone who's Latino is gonna vote a certain way. No, there are differences even among that demographic, and H has a lot to do with it as well. Yeah, you could ask Joe Biden, how come you do terribly among young African Americans? So, but one last thing on the hypocrisy. They always ask Bernie Sanders, well, you know, are you saying that, uh, you know, are you saying that African-American voters, that this is a particularly odious trick, are part of the establishment. Because you criticize the establishment, but African-American voters largely voted

for Joe Biden in South Carolina. So are you insulting African-Americans by calling them part of that establishment? It's a nice little rhetorical trick. But let's flip it on its head. So Biden constantly criticizes Sanders as an unrealistic progressive who can't get anything done. but Latinos vote overwhelmingly for Bernie Sanders. Joe Biden, are you calling Latinos unrealistic radicals? Is that what you're doing? That seems incredibly offensive to Latinos. Isn't it funny that they do one, but never, ever the other?

I definitely don't find it funny, but I get what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's frustrating because people keep treating this election, this primary race, as if all of these candidates, have been treated the same. They've been given similar opportunities. They've been handled the same way in these interviews. But I think that it's pretty clear that throughout this entire primary, there have been moderate candidates and switched from one to the next, right, that have been propped up by the mainstream press. And you're seeing it right now with Biden. And the thing that makes it even more infuriating with Biden is he is the most vulnerable

candidate up against Donald Trump, right, with the Ukraine accusations. I get it, I get it, people think that that's unfair to bring up because, of course, the right wing is going to use conspiracy theories against Biden. But his son did work on that gas board, right? And so that's a gas company board, I should say. And it's an issue, it's a vulnerability, there's that, there's the fact that he keeps making these giant mistakes on the debate stage and the campaign trail, which allows for the Trump campaign to put together these lengthy compilation videos of Joe Biden saying things that make you question

his mental capacity to be president. It's just, it's, what are you guys doing? Do you want to beat Trump or not? If so, why would you prop up the most vulnerable candidate? I don't get it. And lastly on this, we're walking right into a disaster. Biden is gonna get pummeled by the Republicans, just absolutely pulverized. They're gonna take every clip of him, not knowing which state he's in, not knowing what

he's saying. Not knowing the Declaration of Independence. They're gonna say he showed a billion times, maybe literally a billion times on social media, mainstream media. The mainstream media will also flip on Biden after, oh, we have to be fair, and they'll play those over and over again. They will not, under penalty of law, talk about his potential senility during the primary election, but the minute it becomes a general election, they're gonna say there's something

wrong with Joe Biden? Everybody agrees there's something wrong with Joe Biden. We're walking right off that cliff. Then Trump will win. What are God's Green Earth are you guys doing? So the guys who said they want to beat Trump so bad, turns out, as we always suspected, no, they'd rather beat Bernie Sanders than Donald Trump. Well, let's take a break. When we come back, we will get through some of these stories a little more quickly. There's a lot more to get to, including a new ad that the Bernie campaign put out featuring Barack Obama. We'll show you that and more when we return. At TYT, we frequently talk about all the ways that big tech companies are taking control of

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All right, back on the Young Turks. Let's go to members first. Lisa vibes writes in I was thinking the same thing last night terrible interview and they shot it at this weird angle where Rachel was towering over Bernie with her dark smart glasses on and it looked like it was a shot in a damn

closet. Well to be fair to them they were on location so the shot I'm a lot less worried about than the questions. Gabby Marita says young voters only went for Joe Biden by single digits should he drop out because no young people like him? A question of course that will never be asked by the mainstream media

Amanda W says donated $500, keep up the fight. Thank you, Amanda. And thank you for doing it on YouTube super chat or commenting on YouTube super chat as well. You're amazing. In fact, let's just take a quick look at t.com slash go or where we're doing fundraising for the show. 110, 690. You guys are amazing. Let's see if we can get to 115 by the end of today's show.

We really, really got to get to $2 million overall. We do have some time to do that. It's not as short as some of our other fundraising drives, but it's absolutely essentially. You guys are the best. Karen Van Vick says Biden versus Trump means four more years of hell. That's not that far off. And all these folks are using YouTube super chat, which we also appreciate. Patrick Maxwell asked me a good question.

Jake, if MSNBC came crawling back and offered you Matthew's spot, would you take it? Oh my God, the idea of doing two shows at once is so exhausting, but I would do whatever I had to do to get the progressive message out as loudly and clearly as possible, not in lieu of young Turks, but I would try to do it at the same time like I did last time I was on MSNBC, because we must get the message out, especially these next two weeks. And Juan S says, I set up my monthly donation today. If I want to listen to news here in Texas, it's conservative radio based off of people like Hannity and Mark Levin.

I listen to you guys on the go, I even like Ben sometimes. Oh, come on, Juan. Oh, you can totally grit on your nerves sometimes, but he's a good guy. Well, you did a monthly donation, so Juan, you're allowed to say anything you like. Anything. That's right. Be nice to me though. Okay, last one is from Twitter and it's fun.

Our old friend Zoron Kukovitch, he says, ever since Jank came back, he's been going ham and I'm here for it 100%. Yes, Jank, we like ham. Okay, by the way, the other day, apparently one of the conservative blogs about Super Tuesday said, Jank, you know, melts down when Bernie doesn't win and walks off the set. I had to go to election headquarters. They're like, he stormed off the set. There were, I can confidently say there wasn't a single meltdown that night at all.

Yeah. It was actually a really fun night, even though, you know, we didn't get all the results we wanted, but I don't know, I'm still optimistic. I'm optimistic, but I'm not sure I would call Super Tuesday a fun night, but anyway. I mean, I had fun with my brothers and sisters here at TYT, so. All right, fair enough, let's go. All right, so every single Democratic candidate in the primary put out an ad with Obama saying glowing things about them, except for Bernie Sanders up until now.

So here's a new campaign ad. I want us to take a quick look at it and then discuss whether or not it made sense for Bernie to use Obama in an ad. Bernie is somebody who has the virtue of saying exactly what he believes, great authenticity, great passion, and is fearless. Bernie served on the Veterans Committee and got bills done. I think people are ready for a call to action. They want honest leadership who cares about them.

They want somebody who's going to fight for them. And they will find it in Bernie. That's where I feel the burn. All right, so look, that ad doesn't speak to me because I don't care about what Obama thinks. I care about what I think. Scamble. I care about whether Bernie's policy proposals are, you know, issues that matter to me and whether he tackles them correctly or has the right approach.

I care about his record. But I also understand that one of the talking points against Bernie Sanders is that he's this scary socialist guy, right? And that he's too anti-mainstream. But having someone like Obama, who is still incredibly popular, say all those glowing things about Bernie, is useful. Yeah. And in, you know, kind of growing that coalition that he's built already.

So here we go. First of all, let me criticize the Sanders campaign. You should run that before South Carolina. Now running it after South Carolina and after Super Tuesdays, you know, after the horse has left the barn. So, and why? Obama's very, very popular among all Democratic voters, but yes, particularly among African-American voters in the South, during Super Tuesday and South Carolina. Okay, so that's just political gamesmanship.

In terms of, now, the media, as usual, everyone has run an ad of Obama saying good things about them. Why? Obama said good things about almost all the Democrats in the race at different times, which makes sense. Biden was his VP. Bernie is a huge part of the Democratic movement. I don't think Obama would vote for Bernie, okay? But he has said very nice things about him because he did mean it at those times. And he was bringing people together.

And that's what the president should do and the leader of the party, et cetera. And so he said all those things and everybody has a right to run those ads. Now some of the Bernie people thought that some of the other candidates were hiding behind Obama. I would say that only of Biden because- Because he had nothing else. Yeah, because in the first couple of debates, all Biden had was now in Verib Obama. And so that's a well-known fact.

Okay. Now, having said that, everybody's allowed to run any ad they like. And I said that before, of course Biden's gonna run an ad with Obama. Of course he was his VP, of course he's gonna do that. He should do that a thousand times over. That's smart politics and it's perfectly fair. Okay, so now having criticized the Sanders campaign and a couple of strategies there, the media. Everybody runs those ads and they're like, bravo, way to go.

Bernie runs the ad, they're like, oh, my, so unfair. So, okay, I want to give you an example, and it's from the famed one-on-one interview with Rachel Maddow. She brings up Obama in the context of that interview. Let's take a look at how it went down. You've also said that you're running not only against the political establishment, but against the Democratic Party establishment. Democratic establishment, yeah. You have a new ad out today featuring President Obama praising you in the past. Is President Obama part of the Democratic establishment that you say you're running against?

And I want to say something about Barack Obama. Somebody, I'm not going to tell you he's my best friend, but I talk to them every now and then. And I have a lot of respect for him. Do we have disagreements? Of course we had. And he said, you know what, Bernie, I'm not going to get involved. All right. And he kept his word.

You may have seen just the other day, he said, I think Biden had reached out to him and wanted his support. He said, no, I think I will be more effective in supporting the eventual winner, not getting involved early on. I know that there's an enormous pressure on him to support Biden. And the fact that he's not doing that makes me respect him even more. So I didn't love the first sentence in that answer. I think he could have framed it differently. But overall, that was actually a spectacular answer. I really respect President Obama for not picking sides and letting the voters decide.

Because that puts more pressure on Obama not to get involved in to keep his word, as he said. And that was his word. So I think that was really good framing by Sanders. Now, Maddo, everybody else is allowed to say that Obama's their best friend. The minute that Bernie runs the ad, are you saying that Obama's part of the establishment? It's a gotcha question. No, but I get it. I get it.

At the same time? It is a gotcha question for sure. And I get, because she's trying to imply something there, right? But I also get that out of all of the Democratic candidates, Bernie has been the one who's been the most critical of the type of policy that Obama has pushed for and accomplished, right? The type of foreign policy, for instance, that Obama has expanded from the Bush era. No, no, Anna, to finish, I get why you asked Bernie the question. In fact, four years ago, I asked them the question.

It's a fair question, okay? But what bothers me is the nonstop hypocrisy. They never ask anyone else anything similar. I mean, you take any popular person who is on the progressive side, you know, you could, I don't know if it's a good example or not, but you just pick a person out of a hat. Hey, Joe Biden, are you saying Michael Moore's an idiot? Well, why do you hate Michael Moore? Well, I didn't say that, you know, but you're against progressives like Michael Moore.

So why are you against Michael Moore? Michael Moore is a very popular filmmaker. Look, it's a terrible example because Obama's so much more popular than Michael Moore. But you get my point. You could always flip it. And I don't mind you asking the Bernie question, but you gotta flip it from time to time. And they never, ever, ever do. That's why I say in this context, it's a got your question.

Ha ha, ha, we'll show you that Bernie and Obama don't get along, but everybody else can skate all day long. They never get to ask those kind of questions. Well, let's move on to possible debates coming up for the Democratic primary, because I think that that is a game changer. So everyone's waiting for Warren's decision on who to endorse. But I think that debates are important in helping either Bernie or Biden, I guess, if he performs really well in the debate.

So let's talk about that. Now, Bernie Sanders is urging MSNBC to hold a debate that is issue-specific. So he wants to debate Joe Biden, and this is at this point, a two-person race in the Democratic primary, a debate with Joe Biden on the topic of health care. In fact, he talks about it with Rachel Maddow in this next clip. We are spending twice as much. And by the way, I would love to debate Joe Biden on this issue. Give us an hour on MSNBC, all right, where we can talk about how anybody can defend the system

in which we're spending twice as much per capita on health care as the people of any other country and yet 87 million are uninsured, 30,000 die, half the million people go bankrupt every year because of medically related debt. And we spend far and away, the highest price is the world for prescription drugs. You want to defend that system? Let's do it. I think that he's absolutely right. I mean, look, even if they're not doing an issue-specific debate, I think that any debate where

the focus is simply on Biden and Sanders is going to be great for Sanders, for obvious reasons. I mean, there's no more noise with candidates who have no chance, and you have these two candidates, and Biden's not going to love it. He's not going to love more time to talk because he's been struggling. I mean, it's gaff after gaff, he loses his train of thought, he forgets what he was going to say. And facts of the matter is when you look at polling, especially when it comes to some of the exit polls from the primaries that have already been held and the caucuses that have already been held, it's pretty clear that the majority of Democratic voters want Medicare for all, as opposed to maintaining this for-profit system that we have in place. And I'll give you those numbers in just a minute. The next debate on March 15th, that's too late.

Let's go. Let's have another one right now. Right now. I need to see more Biden. I want to give Biden more airtime. Aren't I magnanimous? So here's a very important fact. Polling from Super Tuesday exit polls show that Medicare for all was more popular in every single state than the current system. Every single state. In fact, well, they say we are, but you got to win in places that are the south and sort of like Texas. And you got to win the Midwest, so critical those Midwestern states like Minnesota, number one state that Medicare for All pulled the best on Super Tuesday, Texas, 63 to 33, 30 point lead in Texas, okay? Now it's granted, of course, it's Democratic voters, but it shows you they kept claiming in the mainstream media in their nonstop lies that Medicare for all is not popular.

I think a 30 point lead among Democratic primary voters is pretty popular in Texas. Number two state, Minnesota. So those are the two states that had the biggest margins for Medicare for all. And that is after millions upon millions of dollars in propaganda from conservative Democrats, Republicans, advertising from the industry, and it's still that popular. And one last thing about that, if you've got Medicare for all that popular, why do you, why did Bernie Sanders lose Texas? Well, the media keeps telling you, oh, not electable, not electable, make sure you vote against

your interests. If they voted based on policy, as an example, Medicare for All, Bernie would have won Texas by 30 points. Yeah, that's a factor. But I also want to remind everyone, it was a story we did earlier this week, about how Texas has been aggressively shutting down polling places in areas that are disproportionately Latino and minority. And so that, I'm sure, helped Biden as well.

But in the general election, we all know who that's going to help. It's not going to help Biden. It's going to help Trump. So assuming that everything is fair and they're not doing all this voter suppression, I think that's the number one factor. You're right. But I think that the voter suppression that's taking place is also playing a role in why Biden's doing well in some of these states.

Absolutely. And I actually, in the post game, that's the last half hour of the show that's just for the members, I want to talk about a shocking fact about my election related to this. T.wit.com slash join to become a member, and we'll tell you that fact as well. Yep. And then a few other facts that I want to share with you. There was a recent study done that looked at the cost of Medicare for all. And of course, Biden is going to lie about how much it's actually going to cost. When you look at how much it saves, I think that's the irrelevant statistic that gets buried, both in the mainstream media and on the debate stage.

So Biden has repeatedly attacked the 10-year estimated cost of Medicare for all. By saying it would cost $35 trillion, what he repeatedly leaves out is that as the Los Angeles Times columnist, David Lazarus pointed out this week, it would actually save quite a bit. So spending under the status quo for-profit system over the subsequent 10 years likely will reach a staggering $60 trillion at least. So how are you going to pay for that, Joe? that's a $25 trillion difference. Has a single moderator ever asked that question in any debate?

Correct answers, no. They've asked the reverse question a thousand times. Has there been a single progressive moderator in the Democratic primary debates? No, not one. Isn't that amazing? Every single moderator is moderate to conservative. And they feel like, well, that's obviously. Well, if we had a progressive on, that'd be biased.

No, what? No, that might begin to be even-handed if you had one progressive versus the 100 moderators you've had who are conservative to centrist. But they say, no, we cannot count this even a single progressive moderator. They must all be centrist or conservative. And that's the idea of fair, preposterous. The media rigs these elections more than any other factor. Let's take a break. When we come back, we have AOC and her thoughts on what happened on Super Tuesday.

She was interviewed by Cuomo. And then later, we'll talk a little bit about what's happening with the coronavirus and some of the misinformation the Trump administration is putting out there. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work. Listen ad-free. Access members, only bonus content, and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at Apple. I'm your host, Shank Huger, and I'll see you soon.