The Young Turks - TYT Extended Clip - November 26th, 2019

Episode Date: November 27, 2019

Obama doesn't like ANY of the 2020 Democratic candidates, especially Bernie. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome the Young Turks, Jane Uger, Anna Kasparian with you guys on a lovely Thanksgiving week in America. So we got Obama, we got Trump, we got a lot of candidates. A lot of big ones, a lot of little ones. Absolutely. So no, big show ahead, usual tick, tick, tick stuff, but important details and what we're gonna get to the Obama story first, so I'll just say that for a second, because that is infuriating. It is infuriating, but before we get to that, quick announcement, first off, we have part

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All right, what's that? All right, now let's go after Obama for being a bad guy in this case. All right, so, as we all know, Obama has really, remained relatively silent during the Trump administration, and people have been calling on him to speak out against some of the terrible things that Trump has done during his administration. Now, a recent profile about Obama in political written by Ryan Lizza indicates that there are a few moments where Obama would feel compelled to speak out, namely when Bernie Sanders

serves as a threat to the moderate Democrats. So let me give you the details. According to Lizza's piece, back when Sanders seemed like more of a threat than he does now. Well, you might want to rethink that too. Exactly. Obama said privately that if Bernie were running away with the nomination, Obama would speak up to stop him. So speaking up about Trump, could go either way, 50-50. Bernie, wait a minute, we can't have it.

I'm going to throw away all neutrality to go after Bernie. We'll see. It hasn't happened yet, and these are people close to the former president. president saying that that's what motivated him. But is anybody really surprised? I mean, look, there's people who will fake surprise, and there's Democrats all over cable news who say, oh my God, you're not allowed to say anything bad about Barack Obama, right? So yeah, I don't believe that.

I think that Obama is human. I think he did good things and bad things, and if he is in this conservative group of Democrats, which he most certainly is, well, you know, then his priorities. are clear. Okay, I'm gonna make a statement, and it's gonna sound like a strong statement, but I really mean this. I think liberals are the unspoken threat to our democracy. Okay, so you gotta clarify what you mean by liberals, because everybody uses words in different

ways. So when I say liberals, I'm referring to people like Obama, right? So I see them as different from progressives, I see them as moderate Democrats, the best way to describe them. who pretend like they care about, let's say, social justice issues. But those are really the issues that they try to, I guess, rehabilitate their reputations with when in reality, they're screwing those communities economically. They're screwing all of us economically.

They see people like Bernie Sanders as a threat because Sanders isn't a threat to us. Sanders is a threat to their fortune. Sanders is a threat to their profit motive. Sanders is a threat to their donors. Yeah, look, I don't love the word liberal in that context. I know people do use it in that context. I think moderate Democrat, conservative Democrat, corporate Democrat, establishment Democrat makes sense, I think, and I think that Obama honestly is all of those things.

And so his, I used to say while he was president, and if he had a wrestling nickname, it would be the establishment. And so there's two quotes that he says he loves about Martin, that from Martin Luther King, I thought, great, I can't, it's hard to find that Martin Luther King quote that I don't love. In fact, we've got some of them on our shirts, shop, dy.com. So one was the fierce urgency of now. I was like, really, Obama? Thinks about the fierce urgency of now?

That probably depends on his audience. And then the same one was, the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice. So, well, I love that quote too, but what Obama means by that is, the arc is long. Let's not rush into anything. And those two quotes, in the way that Obama is using him, according to the political article and his top advisors and inside sources, is they're juxtaposed to one another. One is, go act now, and the other is, nah, hold off, incremental change, right?

So it's classic Obama to get whatever you want. You want now, I'm a politician, I'll say now. You want long term, I'm a politician, I'll say long term, and whichever one you like vote for me, okay? And so, but there is an answer to what Obama actually believes. He had one of those quotes. Embroitered in his Oval Office rug. That's right.

You wanna guess which one? The one where you take really, really long. The incrementalism, yeah. Yes, not the fierce urgency of now. That is not embroidered anywhere in Obama's furniture. Of course. Okay, so when he sees, and I'll tell you what the real issue here is, it's not just that Obama's an establishment Democrat, it's ego.

So when he sees people like Bernie Sanders who say, no, we can do big change right now. And Obama's whole thesis was tiny change. We can't do big change. If we could, I would have done it because I'm heroic. But since I didn't do it, I have to assume that it can't be done. And if anybody shows me up by doing big change, well, that'll hurt my legacy and that'll hurt my ego. So Trump, I could take it or leave it.

Bernie, man, if that guy has any chance, I'm gonna, you know, jump out in front, break all of my etiquette, my beloved etiquette, to go attack Bernie Sanders. Yeah, he won't, he won't break etiquette in order to defend Americans who have suffered as a result of the cruelty of the Trump administration. He doesn't care about those people, but what he does care about, and you're absolutely right, Jank, is his legacy. I mean, that comes up over and over again in this piece, and it's something that we are already suspected, I'm going to provide evidence of that in just a second. But let's finish on

what he had to say about Bernie. So Lizzie continues to write, when it comes to Sanders, I asked one close advisor whether Obama would really lay himself on the line to prevent a Sanders nomination. I can't really confirm that, the advisor said. He hasn't said that directly to me. The only reason I'm hesitating at all is because, yeah, if Bernie were running away with it, I think maybe we would all have to say something, but I don't think that's likely, it's not happening. No, they view them as an existential threat. Yes, they do view them as a threat, like economically we know, right? To their best interests.

They're consultant businesses, their lobbying businesses, their corruption industrial complex. So that's why the advisor, not Obama, the advisor says, look, we would all have to do something. I mean, Trump, yeah, he's a pain on the ass and he's racist and he's a terrible person. But he helps Democrats raise money. And businesses chugging along, right? So consultants are getting paid even more, lobbyists are making even more money. Corruption is at its height, not at its ebb. Bernie would actually do something about corruption.

He actually fights for the little guy. Existential threat to anyone in corrupt Washington, D.C. Now when it comes to Elizabeth Warren, it appears that Obama has mixed feelings, right? So he doesn't seem to see Warren as much of a threat, right? But he still sees her as a threat, especially when it comes to his legacy. So according to the piece, Obama's relationship with Warren is famously complicated. Back in early 2015, Obama said privately that if Democrats rallied around her as their nominee, it would be a repudiation of him, a clear sign that his economic decisions after the Great

Recession had been seen as inadequate. What did I tell you? What did I just tell you? No, but like... My legacy! My legacy! Yeah, yeah. But, Jake, what's amazing to me is the truth is the truth, right?

And he knows what the truth is. He knows that his economic policies didn't go far enough to help Americans. In fact, I think that his administration and the fact that so many Americans felt left behind opened the doors for a lunatic like Trump, right? But at the same time, instead of having this moment of self-reflection and trying to figure out, like, damn it, there's something that I miss. There's something that I should have done, right? He's decided, no, no, I'm going to try to, you know, go against a candidate who might actually do more for people in terms of economic justice. Because I don't want to face the reality publicly that I was a failure for a lot of Americans when it came to economic justice.

Oh, and so the Obama is incredibly popular in the country and certainly within Democratic Party. Why? Well, a couple of reasons. One, for all of our left wing critique of Obama, he was a good manager. If you needed someone to manage something, Obama was an incredibly smart guy who could, he's the opposite of Trump in that sense, a terrific, competent manager, right? If you're looking for bold leadership, you aren't going to get it from Obama.

That's just not who he is. And so he believes in incrementalism, I don't know anyone who would actually deny that. But in terms of his popularity, so you got a good manager, and he seemed to be a good steward of the stock market and the economy and the unemployment numbers dipped, et cetera. So give him credit for all the things he deserves credit on. And then the mainstream media, they're also the establishment. So they loved Obama, social liberal, economic conservative that keeps, maintains the status quo. I mean, the defining trade of the Obama Biden years, and I say in this case, Biden not

just to throw Biden into the lot for political reasons, but because Biden actually negotiated this deal, was when Biden went to McConnell and said, I'll give you all of the Bush tax cuts made permanent except for 6%. So they gave away, and Bush couldn't even do that. Republicans under Bush couldn't get them made permanent. But Biden and Obama made 94% of those tax cuts for the rich permanent. And then bragged about how they raised taxed on the rich by 6%. But the rest of the mainstream media never pointed that out. They never, ever criticized them from the left. So the only thing that anybody ever saw was lunatic criticism of Obama from the right.

So if you saw Fox News criticism of Obama, you'd think, well, those guys are insane, this guy seems rational, but what's there not to love about Obama? So, and part of it is the issue's MSNBC. I mean, look, I literally got removed from MSNBC. Well, you quit. Well, I quit, but they wanted me to move me to move me to. off of prime time, and they made it very clear because I was doing left-wing critique of Obama. Right.

So there is, there was state control over that cable news station, the one that was supposed to be on the left, and they could not tolerate any critique of Obama from the left. Exactly. So what does that leave people with, this image of Obama being golden, and then he gets such a lucky break if all you cared about was his legacy, and here I think it's a mixed record. then he gets Trump afterwards. My God, if you want to look great, have Trump follow you. Yeah.

Right? So now, look, to be fair to President Obama, he is actually troubled by Donald Trump. I mean, don't get carried away and think like, oh, bohaha, he thinks Trump is great. No, no, no, no. Just not troubled enough to speak out. No, no, he does from time to time speak out. But yes, there is details in this story about how his advisors and him have long, what they called intense debates about whether put out a statement about Trump's worst things from Obama

himself or from a spokesperson as a conduit, like, oh, should we, the Muslim ban where he just is clearly discriminating as an entire religion. They had this giant long debate and at the end thought, a bridge too far for Obama to criticize it, let's have the spokesperson put out a comment. Very, very, very bold. Classic Obama, but it doesn't mean he doesn't, that he likes Trump. He does not like Trump, but there he's a little, you know, slow to act. And if you think about it, Trump makes him look so good by comparison.

So, you know, hey, Trump bad, bad, but God, I look great next to him. Bernie, on the other hand, he can bring real, or apparently Elizabeth Warren, they can bring big change. And then I'd be embarrassed because it turns out I could have gotten big change. I just didn't try for it. Ooh, that one hurts. Well, one of the people who keeps citing Obama on the campaign trail is, of course, Biden, his vice president, right? And I only bring him up because it appears that Obama's worried about his legacy when it comes

to Biden as well and didn't say nice things about Biden behind the scenes. So with one candidate who was seeking advice, Obama pointed out that during his own 2008 campaign, He had an intimate bond with the electorate, especially in Iowa, that he no longer has. Then he added, and you know who really doesn't have it? Joe Biden. Oh, I just got it. God damn it, I'm slow to. So he's been taking very subtle pot shots that Joe Biden. Obama has. He's, of course, he didn't endorse his own vice president. That's not small. That's actually gigantic. We all move past it because it's almost so awkward that the establishment media didn't want to talk about it. But if you pay, you pay you.

you think your vice president based on you thought he would be the second best person in the country to run the country? That's not why he picked him. He picked him to appeal to white voters. Okay, let's be clear about that. But if you thought he was the second best guy, well, then you would obviously endorse him right away. But like, oh my God, for example, I endorse Anna as host of the Young Turks. Okay, I wouldn't hesitate and be like, well, I'm not sure she's connecting with voters in Iowa. Anyway, or viewers in Iowa. So, so, but now, so that's why He was hesitated, but now I understand the second reason. If Biden loses, it's embarrassing.

Yeah, duh, yes. Yeah, and oh my God, the beloved cherished legacy. No, it's so incredible, because behind the scenes, Obama and the people that he's working with right now are like salty about the fact that Biden keeps referencing Obama on the campaign trail. And so one of the other people who's actually a little bitter is Eric Holder, who was considering a run in this election. And so let me go to that.

So when it comes to Eric Holder, Holder was particularly wounded, that his close friend wasn't more encouraging of his own ambitions. He's still pretty sensitive about it, said someone close to Holder. I can't, okay, let me just continue. He was really frustrated about having arrived at the decision not to run. Holder couldn't get in because Biden and Holder have the same set of people. Once Biden was getting in, then Eric couldn't get in. So that frustrated Holder, it blocked him.

And Biden has turned out to be the way they all feared. And that's really frustrating to Eric, right? So they're all thinking like, Biden, what is he doing? So embarrassing. And then Holder is like holding this grudge, he's the grudge holder. Okay, Eric, so let me relieve you of your grudges. You wouldn't know what anyway. You wouldn't even come close.

All of you are the same exact thing. You're all establishment Democrats. And by the way, Biden has done way better than Eric Holder would have done. Why? Is he smarter than Eric Holder? No. Is he a better politician? No, not necessarily, okay?

The reason why is name recognition. Nobody knows who Eric Holder is. We all know it because we follow politics. But regular Americans have no idea who Eric Holder is, whereas everybody knows who Joe Biden is. And by the way, to be fair to Biden, he's still holding the national lead. So would Eric Holder have had the national lead? No way.

All of you are wrong. You all think that the rest of the country loves corporate Democrats. And they don't, they just don't. In fact, they really dislike them. Obama was a masterful politician. But at the end of the day, you know, these guys don't have those same political skills. All they have is the core policies that American people don't really like. And the only way that you win with those policies is by running against loathsome Republicans.

So I have to mention one final part of this that I thought was so fascinating. So there's this like culture of kissing the ring, right, of the corporate Democrats, if you're thinking about running. And I mean, I should have known this, but apparently candidates need to go to the west end of DC and they meet with Obama to get advice, right? And he counsels them on the election. So the only two candidates, Democratic candidates obviously, who didn't go to his office to meet with him were Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang, which made me like them more, right?

Yeah, of course, but probably they weren't invited. Probably, you're right. Andrew Yang, what an outsider, no. I do declare, he hasn't even been vetted by the corporate Democrats, no. I say no, and MSNBC says no. Like the idea of going to Obama for advice is, I mean, I guess you could find some useful information there, but I just thought it was fascinating, right? Especially if you're a candidate who's so different in terms of your proposals and what you want to do to really structurally change this country, Obama's got nothing for you.

Yeah, but they don't want to do that except for two of them, right? So the rest of them are like, how do you win as a corporate Democrat? That'd be amazing, that's what I want to do. You know, my final point, though, is guys, you say, well, Chang, you know, you say corporate Democrats are not good at winning, but you just told me Obama's a corporate Democrat, and he won twice. Hold on, think about this. Did Obama ever run against anyone who was more progressive than him? No. Never.

So he was never actually challenged from the left. He was the most progressive candidate in every election he ran in. So he was more progressive than Hillary Clinton in 2008, and he beat her from the left. And remember the change signs, the hope signs, right? And he was obviously way more progressive than John McCain, way more, well, slightly more progressive than Mitt Romney, right? Right? So he had a free ride. He never ever got challenged from the left, but I don't want you to mistake what I'm saying.

He had a free ride in that sense. He didn't have a free ride in many other respects. The right wing was vicious to him, Fox News was horrific to him, and as an African American in this country with a name like Barack Hussein Obama on top of being an African American, there was a ton of disadvantages, and so you shouldn't underestimate how good he was at winning elections to have overcome all of that. And I've said that now several times just in this story, right? But having said that, a true test would have been being challenged from the left, especially

today when he won, it was a different time than it is today. Right. I don't think Bernie Sanders could have won in 2008, to be honest, right? I agree, yeah. I don't think it would have even been close. So it is a different dynamic today, whereas if you have someone just like Obama in this race, They'd probably do pretty well, and they might even be in the top four, Pete Buttigieg. But at the end of the day, they're not gonna win.

By the way, it turns out he doesn't like Buttigieg either, why? Too similar to him. And so- It's high school, it's high school, politics is high school, period. And Ryan couldn't, Ryan Lizza writing the piece, couldn't get any of the advisors to say, okay, but which candidate does he actually like? I'll tell you, Kamala Harris. He would have, he, I'm sure he thought she was going to win. It's just the exact right of corporate Democrat, you know, pretending to be progressive,

but not really that progressive. And so she would have been perfect for him. But as it turns out, she didn't have the political skills and she's now down at 4% and pretty close to done. So, oh well, he'll have to pick Biden or Buttigieg, see how it goes. Well, when we come back from the break, we're gonna discuss why the hashtag Pete Buttigieg is a lying MF was trending. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-The-Republic, or UNFTR.

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Recently. All right, back on a young church. Let me start with a member comments. Medicare for all signs that escaped Pelosi's basement, writes in. Obama, you chose to speak out about Bernie? Are you kidding? I used to think Obama was a progressive in his heart, but the establishment just beat him down. His campaign was change.

I'm so disappointed. You look, in a different time, Obama might have been progressive. But anyway, Megan says, honestly, Obama continues to break my heart, and I don't know why I'm surprised. He's made it perfectly clear he was putting on a show in 2008. Leroy, not Jenkins, Beresford, says, Obama's concerned about Bernie making his legacy irrelevant. It's just that simple. Such a shame that his legacy is more important than the people. But look, look, I just want to say, I'm sure that Obama, in his mind, actually,

thinks that Bernie can't win. He's 1,000% wrong about that. That he can't win? The general election. That's probably part of what's animating him, right? Like, and then there's all the things we discussed, which is, I think, the majority of it. But some portion of it is everyone in Washington thinks, oh, no, Bernie will definitely lose the election, no matter what the polling shows. By the way, the latest set of polls, Bernie does better against Trump than everyone else. Of course. Okay, but no one in Washington can you read a poll. Like, get rid of the labels for a second. The reason why he has broader appeal is because he talks about and has a message that

resonates with everyone regardless of political ideology. Doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or a Republican, you're getting screwed by this system. And that's what he talks about. That's what resonates. Of course, and the maintainers of the system in Washington are not happy about that message. All right, eclecting Mr. Chalini, I think that Barack Obama should reread King's speech. Apparently he got it backwards, instead of embracing the fierce urgency of now, or Obama's rooting for the tranquilizing drug of gradualism.

CMAX Feeling the Burn says on Twitter, I see you, Anna, with the, of course, I can't wait, I can't wait to have you take over, tick, tick, tick, tick. I mean, look, that happened a while ago. You guys just did it. There just wasn't a formal announcement about it. Okay. Okay, Santos-Wante-Rison, do not forget Obama passed on Warren as director of Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Well, that's why I hung on so long as, you know, I endorse Bernie, but I support Warren as a progressive because she got the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau passed against Obama's wishes, even though he was president and the Republicans hated it.

That is a minor and maybe even a major miracle. To this day, I'm not sure how she did that. So Obama didn't want to pass it so much that as a matter of spite, when it did pass, because the pressure that Warren had put on, he's like, oh, yeah, I'm not making you a director. Yeah, okay, we got to go. Okay, I know, I know. Just last two from YouTube super chat. Arbuckle 1, 23 says, quote, if I have to share the list of criminals that Trump has pardon,

I really prefer to die, the turkey. Turkey. And then last one is Rudy Acosta with a good point. Obama needs to realize that the ACA is going away, either dismantled by the GOP or is a stepping stone to Medicare for All, pick one. Agreed. But of course, if Medicare for All happens, then ACA is moot. It just doesn't matter at all.

That legacy. And there goes both Obama and Pelosi's legacy. Whenever you ask Pelosi or Pelosi supporters, what has she ever done? The only thing they could ever point to is the Affordable Care Act. And if Medicare for all wipes it away, and because it's better and bigger, they're like, oh, how about me? My poor, poor reputation. Anyway, thank you for using YouTube super chat.

What's next, Anna? All right. Recently, the hashtag Pete Buttigieg is a lying MF went viral on Twitter. And the question is why? What's going on? Well, there was a wonderful and incredibly powerful piece written in The Root by Michael Harriet and I highly recommend everyone read the full piece. And he is chiming in commenting on a recent video of Buttigieg that surfaced.

The video was from 2011 and it features Buttigieg essentially claiming that minority children have a difficult time breaking the cycle of poverty because they just don't have anyone in the household to look up to. They don't have the appropriate mentors and the right people setting a good example for them. Now, that was obviously a Republican talking point that we discussed on the show. But before I get to Harriet's points, I want you to watch that video in case you might have forgotten what he said. Maybe you hadn't seen it in the first place. Take a look.

The greatest part of the population right now are people of my age. And a lot of people of my age don't have anything to do. And if they would just go and mentor. There would be another inclusion of this whole thing. Especially because, you know, the kids need to see evidence that education is going to work for them, right? So you see a lot of parts of that's part of the motivation. Yeah, because you're motivated because you believe that at the end of your educational process, there is a reward, there's a stable life, there's a job. And there are a lot of kids, especially the lower income minority neighborhoods, who literally just haven't seen at work.

There isn't somebody they know personally. And I think that's who testifies to the value of education. So, yeah. You bet. They need to get that push from somebody. other than if a family member isn't enthused about their educational history and lets them just throw their bag in the corner, like you said earlier, then things aren't going to happen. It's irritating, it gets more irritating every time I watch that.

And you know, in one part of it, he mentions, you know, education, you know, stable life. I know a lot of people right now who have gone through the process of obtaining a higher education. They've even gone to get their graduate degrees after the fact. And their lives aren't very stable right now under this system. But yeah. No, of course the part that's most infuriating is the moralizing. It's not that you didn't have opportunity, that it's really your parents' fault and the culture's fault.

And then someone on Twitter and a lot of critique of this and Harriet's got the best one we're going to get to in one second. But as somebody else said, how come they never talk about that with poor white people? How come they never talk about like, you know, what's wrong with their parents? Why don't their parents give them, show them the value of education, right? It's only reserved for poor black people. Then we're moralizing about how they have some sort of cultural problem as opposed to a funding problem.

Now we're gonna show you what the real numbers are and you're gonna see exactly what we're talking about, that it's really a funding issue. So I think the best sentence to summarize how Michael Harriet at the root felt about that video that we just showed you was this. I wanna be clear, Pete Buttigieg is a little. a lying mother effort. That's strong. Very strong.

And he gives you reasons for why he feels that way. Now, the reason why he thinks he's a liar is because he is intentionally ignoring the fact that there are two Americas in this country. And to pretend as though everyone has an equal footing is ridiculous. And so let me give you the examples. Even though Buttigieg has never attended a school with more than 10% black students, He thinks he knows what's stopping black kids from achieving their educational dreams. I thought that was a great point.

But then he gets into some numbers. Before the numbers, he said something earlier in the piece that really resonated to. He's like, people who did you just went to one of the best private high schools in the country on the campus of one of the best universities in the country in Notre Dame. So you, and you had two parents who were really high performing, high income. They weren't the richest people in the world, right? But he really had all the advantages. He had all the opportunity in the world.

And so that doesn't mean that you should discount what he did. But he gives you a sense of like this, that's what's so frustrating about white Republicans. They get handed all this opportunity. It goes back to the great quote about George W. Bush. He was born on third base and thought he had a triple, right? So Buttigieg haven't gotten all of this massive opportunity, not only thinks he hit a triple, which he could have hit, he's a really smart guy, right? That he hit a triple, but then looks back at you and judges you for not being able to get on

base. Yeah, but I wasn't born on the campus of one of the best universities. I didn't have the opportunity to go to one of the best private schools in the country when I was in high school. So please spare me your moralizing when you had all those opportunities. So let me give you an example to kind of juxtapose Pete Buttigieg's experience going to one of the best schools on the campus of one of the best universities to what Michael Harriet went through. So he was living in the projects as a kid. And in order to go to school, he had to walk to

school. They didn't have buses to take them to school. So what he had to do, like many other people living in the area, was walk over a ditch and there was no bridge. And the only way you could walk across that ditch was through this like makeshift bridge, right? And what was the bridge? It was just a wood plank that the kids used. And sometimes you slip and fall in and, you know, it was just, it's a mess. And that's a real life. And he said, if you didn't want to take the plank and risk falling into the ditch,

you had to walk 30 minutes around, et cetera. And then, you know, and he said he was lucky because a lot, some of the folks in the neighborhood who were doing, you know, some illicit activities, because that was economic opportunity in their neighborhood, were actually dealing with. decent enough to save up money from him and give it to him when he was going to college. So he'd at least have a little something because he got him somebody to drive to college because he didn't have a driver's license. See, that's another thing that people don't recognize.

There's such a little opportunity in so many areas of this country and his mom was blind so she couldn't drive. So Michael Harriet rises up from this, right? And a lot of people did. And then to see the Buttigiegs of the world look down their nose at you and say like, well, why doesn't everybody do it? No, but what's the amazing thing is that even in the circumstances that Harriet had to deal with, he feels this tremendous amount of gratitude.

He considers himself lucky because he recognizes the support and, you know, support that he was able to have in his life that others don't. Like, recognizing those differences and coming from a place of gratitude is so important. But now let's get to the actual statistics that he cites, because this is really the heart of the matter. It's the systemic change that needs to happen in this country to provide opportunities. It's not about culture, it's not about, you know, these people are different from other people. There aren't enough mentors in the household. No, this is what's really going on. Majority minority schools receive $23 billion less in funding than majority white schools.

And that's according to a recent study by Edbilt. Now, this is something that we've actually talked about on TYT a lot because in many school districts, the schools are funded through property taxes. And so if you're in a poor neighborhood where the property taxes are low or the revenue from property taxes are low, is low, then your school is unlikely to get the same funding as a school in a wealthy area. So look, guys, and that's that alone, this conversation is over. So it's one thing to say, hey, listen, everybody's got the same opportunity, not results, but same opportunity. And while one set of folks did not do as well, well, let's try to analyze what went wrong. But that's not the case, $23 billion less.

So you put somebody in a giant hole and then you look down at them and ask, well, why haven't you gotten up yet? I guess it's your moral problem or your parents' cultural and moral problem that you didn't get out of the ditch that I left you in. So if you can't figure out why people are really mad at Buttigieg, that's why. Let me give you more. The unemployment rate for black college graduates is twice as high as the unlawful. unemployment rate for white grads.

Remember, they're both college graduates. Exactly. Black college graduates are paid 80 cents for every dollar a white person with the same education earns. With the same education. And white people leave college with lower debt and higher earnings. White kids get more resources, more advanced classes, and have access to more technology. Now why do white students graduate with less debt and more savings?

A lot of it has to do with, you know, interest rates that are charged on private loans, as we know through many studies, interest rates tend to be higher for black loan recipients versus white loan recipients. And even more important, the average white family has 10 times as much wealth as the average black family. And that is definitely a legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, and all of the abuse and the redlining and all the discrimination that African Americans have faced throughout our history. If you can't understand that, you just don't care about facts. Finally, I want to go to the last graphic because, again, as I said, you need to read his

entire piece. There are excerpts from it that we can't get to today because of we don't have enough time, but this was a really powerful portion of it. Pete Buttigieg is standing over a dying man, holding the oxygen machine in his hand and telling everyone, nah, he doesn't need CPR. He's just holding his breath. Negligent homicide is still homicide. Yeah, he came harder than I do, which is not, it's not normal. Anyway, I actually do want to give a couple more quotes here that real as quickly as I can. He said, it is painted as a problem of black lethargy and not white apathy. See, that's super powerful and really gets to the core of it.

The white apathy is, well, I'm not gonna fund your schools, okay? So I don't care about you. And then I'm, so that's what leaves you in the ditch. And then they turn around and say, oh, you're just lazy. Totally. God damn it, how is that not frustrating, right? And then he says something that Matt Stoller, who's going to be a guest on the show later today, also pointed out about a completely different piece.

And it's fascinating how the root covers Pete Buttigieg versus Associated Press. Associated Press had a glowing piece about Beat Buttigieg and how he's the wonder child, not one negative thing, just glowing like wonderful, intelligent, genius, language is piano. Okay, and Matt Stoller, who's a very strong progressive, said almost the same exact thing that Michael Harriet said here. He said, Pete Buttigieg doesn't want to change anything. He just wants to be something, right? And Matt, having read the Associated Press piece, came away with the same thing.

Even though it was a glowing piece about Buttigieg, you never get a sense of what drives him other than I'd like to have power and I'd like to be in charge and I'd like to be really successful. I've been preparing for this my entire life. Went to Harvard, served in the military, I've been doing everything right. What's the problem? The problem is you're supposed to actually look out for other people. You're supposed to serve them, there's supposed to be something that drives you instead of

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independent media, become a member at t-y-t.com slash join today. In the meantime, enjoy this free segment. All right. Young Turks, Jane Huguerannik is sparing with you guys. Time for just a couple of comments. Dr. Chaos MD says, Buttigieg's statements are worse than minority kids don't have mentors. If you listen to him, he says it's because no one in these kids' lives values education, which is a much different argument than that no one in a kid's life completed higher education.

That's a good point. Jack Burnett 77 says, I'm a black man who happened to be lucky enough to make it to the medical school and break the cycle of poverty. And I can tell you with 100% confidence that neither myself nor any other person of color that I've ever known wasn't encouraged to do well in school. That's not the problem. The issue is being harassed by police, your whole life, and others just assuming you're less capable than your white peers, hashtag pizza lying MF. So Jack, thank you for writing in, Dr. Burnett, I presume.

So great to get your perspective. Go to Twitter real quick, hangary Skywalker says, my white privilege splaining meter exploded. And then finally, Dimesh on PS4 says, there are elementary schools that serve lead, tainted water in the drinking fountains, but please tell me how they need more white mentors who value education and, quote, don't throw their bag in the corner. Man, that is such a devastating point. Yep. All right, thank you for participating, guys.

Really appreciate it. What's next? Andrew Yang is publicly feuding with MSNBC and I love it. So part of the problem is MSNBC has been slanted in their coverage against Yang. I don't know if it's been intentional. My read on this is that MSNBC just didn't take him seriously and didn't include him in some of their graphics with poll results because they didn't take him seriously. But they should take him seriously because he does have some interesting things to say and

he's been doing pretty well. I mean, he's not a front runner, but he's been rising in the polls a little bit, and a lot of people are fans of his. So let me tell you what happened. So the last Democratic debate was hosted by MSNBC. And like many of the debates, actually, they didn't really go to Andrew Yang often. And so Andrew Yang decided to throw MSNBC under the bus while doing an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN.

a look. Let's talk about that Democratic presidential debate in Atlanta last night. It went on for more than two hours. You only got to speak for, and we did some checking. You can see over there, about six and a half minutes or so. That's probably half that some of the other candidates got. Do you think of that was fair? You know, Wolf, all I can say is, I miss CNN moderating these debates. You got some of that supporters behind you, clearly. No, no, I mean, they saw it last night, too. I mean, America saw it. I went 32 minutes without a question, and I was raising my hands trying to get a word in edgewise during that time. So when you all moderated the debate, it was straight up the middle, it was professional.

We got real substantive topics, like the wealth tax, like Bernie's Jobs Guarantee, what our vision for the country is moving forward. Whereas last night, I felt like I certainly had a lot more to say and a lot more to offer. Is Wolf Blitzer alive or awake during these segments? Like I believe, it looks like you have some supporters behind you. Like yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you not realize that before when they were just holding signs saying, you know, that they support him?

Like a what? Anyway, sorry, I know that that's beside the point, but. No, no. Look at him. No reaction. It's like he's asleep. It's amazing. No, it's so with Wolf, like if you noticed when he said I prefer debates on CNN,

and Wolf was like, hmm. He did like a very like subtle, yeah, expression. And I think that that's why he gave like an awkward follow-up, because he didn't know what to say. Like if it was me, I'd be like, yeah, boo-ya, better on D-Y-D, that's right. But that's not who Wolf is. Yeah, my producers didn't brief me on this. I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. Yeah.

The other day he actually, for the first time ever, gave a tiny little editorial what Blitzer did about immigration, but it was actually powerful. Really? He talked about how his parents' families escaped the Holocaust and that's why we need to be open to immigrants. And I thought, Wolf, that's it. Why haven't you been doing that for 20 years? That's way, way better, right?

100%. I totally agree with you. Yeah, but the reason he's on air is because people want emotionless, not actual human beings, not the audience, the executives want. And the advertisers want emotionless, bland people on air. If he'd been that wolf blitzer giving the passionate speech about immigration, he wouldn't have been on air, right? He wouldn't, that's right, he wouldn't be on air.

But back to Yang. Yeah. So look guys, we were the first show to have Andrew Yang on nationally and we believe in outsiders. It doesn't mean that we agree with everything that Andrew stands for and we have slight difference on some of his policies and then wholeheartedly agree on other policies. I do not have slight differences, I'm just making that clear. Okay, you have larger differences with universal basic income. But I love his democracy dollars.

I think that it was groundbreaking, it was out there way before anybody else was, and pushed the entire field to a more progressive position on money in politics. So, and I said, look, real people like outsiders and the media will not give many attention, but he'll rise anyway. And at the time he might have been polling at number 20 or something, there was a field of 27 people at one point. And I said he would rise to number six. Now I'm telling you this, not just to brag, but yeah, a little bit to brag.

He rose to number six and stayed there. He's been at number six for months now, right? So why did I think he was going to that position? I knew the top five and I knew that it was hard to break into the top five. But the others offered nothing interesting, nothing new. Whereas Andrew had a real, you know, initiative and real plans and real policies. whether you agree or disagree, right? And so, but the insiders on cable news, and especially at MSNBC, where it's the Democratic

Party establishment that completely rules that channel, they hate outsiders, they can't stand them. So everything about Andrew Yang is a turnoff. They're like, this is going to hurt the Democratic Party, actually like doing something interesting and different and thoughtful, it's going to hurt, no, let's go back to bland and boring. I just don't think they took him seriously, which I think. I think is always a mistake. And that is part of what I mean by they can't stand outsiders.

They think like outsiders by definition are illegitimate. But what they're missing is the whole audience is outsiders. We're not sitting in the middle of Washington in the halls of power, right? But they think that their audience is Steve Schmidt and Bill Crystal, right? And these beltway people, and what will Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer say? Who cares what they say? Right. But they do, they're obsessed with it.

And I got news for you, Schumer and Pelosi are not big fans of Andrew Yang. Of course, of course, that's unsurprising. But Yang didn't stop the feud there. In fact, MSNBC tried to get him on, you know, to do an interview. And he rejected them very publicly. So on Twitter, he wrote, was just asked to appear on MSNBC this weekend and told them I'd be happy to, after they apologize on air, discuss and include our campaign, with our polling and allow surrogates from our campaign as they do other candidates.

They think we need them, we don't. Look, I got to say that last line is so good, it's so good. It's like what I dream about. It's the stuff I dream about, okay? Those moments where like people in these, the gatekeepers, right? They come groveling, like, oh, it turns out that you do have some support. We need you come to an interview. And you can just be like, tell me how my ass tastes.

Okay, well, that's one way to go. I just love it. I live for it. So good for Andrew Yang with that last line. Okay, here. I'll make another prediction. When a progressive becomes president of the United States, which will be very soon, MSNBC will go, yeah, we meant progressives. Of course, of course, power, power, precious.

We meant progressives. I love it. Okay, but you didn't have any progressives out. What happened? All of a sudden, you mean progressives? Now, you never meant it. You know how many times they left Andrew Yang at a polling where he was polling higher than the people they showed in their graphics? 12 times.

So they just skip right over him. They'd be like, okay, and here's Biden and Sanders and Buttigieg and Klobuchar. You're like, wait, I know Yang's higher than Klobuchar. And a lot of times he was higher than Buttigieg. They're like, nope, he doesn't exist. He doesn't exist. Outsider, outsider alert. So I love what Andrew did there.

It was a yankster move. And you're about to see the one final yankster move in this whole saga because he goes after MSNBC on CNN again. Take a look. What exactly do you want an apology for? Well, Anna, Americans tuned in to the debate earlier this week, and they saw that I got called on less than any other candidate, including candidates that I'm polling higher then. And the questions I did get had virtually nothing to do with the core ideas of my campaign. Yeah, look, it's indisputable. You saw the graphic that Wolf Litzer put up. I mean, he got less air time than almost everyone that he was pulling better than that.

And then on Buttigieg, Buttigieg got twice as much time, 12 minutes and 44 seconds versus six minutes and 43 seconds. Yeah. That's unreal. And you think that doesn't, look, a 30 second ad on these channels cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. If you got an extra six minutes in a debate, that's worth millions of dollars. So it's not just theoretical or hypothetical problem, it's a very real practical and financial

advantage that they hand the establishment. Exactly. All right, well, I want to do one more story before we go to break, and this one's titled Karma, because sometimes it does come back to bite you, and it's fun watching it happen to people like Charlie Kirk. So right wingers like Charlie Kirk, and more importantly, the Trump administration, love to flirt with the worst elements of their political ideology. I'm talking about the hardcore racist, the people who marched in Charlottesville, Virginia, saying the Jews will not replace us. They won't outright condemn them.

They'll flirt with them because they appreciate the support, but they also won't outright support them, right, through explicit messages in the media. Now, this flirtation has come back to haunt them because people like Nicholas Fuentes, who is a very open and transparent, racist, white nationalist, is harassing Charlie Kirk for not taking them seriously enough. So he's showing up to various Turning Point USA events, also showing up to the book signing event that Donald Trump Jr. did with his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle. and they're just causing chaos. And it's a fascinating thing to watch. Now let's just take a quick look at who Nicholas Fuentes is. Again, I warn you, he is not a pleasant person to say the least.

Dinesh D'Souza. President Trump should make a speech talking about the roots of white nationalism, white supremacy. When the f f*** did you get here? 1990? You know, Dinesh DeSuzza? I'm sorry, anybody sounding like Dinesh DeSuzza signed the Constitution in the United States of the Declaration of Independence? I don't remember that. Sorry for the language, but, you know, really, Dinesh D'Souza is going to roll up to our shore from India, from smelly, open defecation India, and he's going to tell us that Robert E. Lee was racist and our ancestors were villains, as long as they were Democrats, you know, so Dinesh D'Souza can go to hell. You want to talk to Jewelstein who says, I like the free market. I like capitalism. But I think something else about social issues. You know, that's who you want to have on your show. And welcome, everybody. I'm Dave Rubin. I'm gay and Jewish, and this is the gay Jewish show. Today, we've got a Jew who is going to talk to us about why the only thing you're allowed to disagree on is economics. Typing on Twitter.com.

Race trader. You work for Jews, you know. So those are the types of people that they were flirting with. For, you know, political gain, for profit, for whatever reason. And again, it's coming back to haunt them. And this is what they empowered. Yeah, so the Republican Party ran on lots of different forms of bigotry and hatred. So it's a fact. It was called the Southern Strategy.

Two different heads of the Republican National Committee have apologized for it. For over 40 years, they ran on the idea of appealing to racist in the South because the parties flipped. The Democratic Party used to be more conservative. And because of the Civil Rights Act of Lyndon Johnson, it became the more progressive party. And so the Republicans then were like, oh, Richard Nixon, Pat Buchanan, came up with a strategy. By the way, so did Roger Ailes, who now, of course, went on to run Fox News Channel. He's now passed away. But those were the architects of the explicitly racist strategy of saying to Southerners, don't worry,

there is a party that hates black people, it's the Republicans. So then they went on an anti-immigrant tirade. So they said, hey, don't worry, all you're racist out there. We hate immigrants and we hate Latinos. They then in 2004, and now this is the beloved George W. Bush and Carl Rove who've now been rehabilitated because of Donald Trump. And all their staff members are now all over cable news, including MSNBC. Those sons of bitches ran campaigns all across the country in swing states against gay rights. And they knew that their base is filled with hatred and bigotry.

and would show up just to vote against gay people and then would vote for George Bush on the ticket. And that strategy, unfortunately, did work. And it made George Bush president again in his second term. They were just talking about ideas. Yeah, no, they weren't. So they hate, they've, and then of course their attacks against Muslims are historic and legendary. But by the way, guys, through all this, if you notice with Fuentes, when I had David Dukon, when I went on Alex Jones show, all of these guys.

that Alex Jones show was a million years ago. So, and I was curious, what does this lunatic thing, right? And so if you have that intellectual curiosity, you would find out that no, at the bottom of all their hatred is anti-Semitism. That's worse than all of them. Why? Because they think blacks are inferior, Latinos are inferior, Muslims are irredeemable. But the Jews, the Jews run the world.

Yeah, no, no, I mean, and they're transparent about it. Yeah, and if you notice that guy too, right? So they encouraged this and they built it and they built this like machine of hatred. And then it came to life and it was Donald Trump and that was Frankenstein. And even when they said the Jews will not replace us in Charlottesville and they killed someone, Trump said there was very fine people on both sides. He wouldn't even condemn David Duke when David Duke endorsed him. Yeah, he pretended not to know who David Duke was.

Right. Okay, so then the Gary Cones of the world that rang their hands at the time, oh, I thought about quitting, but I didn't want to quit until we got the tax cuts, okay? And Stephen Miller still hasn't quit, et cetera. So now baby Frankenstein is here. And by the way, if you've ever heard the terms alt-right and alt-light, what is the difference? They split a while back early on in the Trump administration, because the alt-right said, Let's hate everyone.

And the Alt-Light said, no, no, guys, come on, be cool. You know, we're pretending to love Israel and all that stuff. So let's hate everyone but the Jews. So they were like, we're against blacks, Latinists. No, no, but that's my point. No, but that's my point. Alt-Lite, you thought it was okay to hate everyone but the Jews, okay? And you thought that wouldn't encourage the alt-right to get worse and worse and worse?

And here we are, now it's fully formed. And baby Frankenstein is here to go, yeah, of course we met the Jews. And of course we meant everybody. And Dinesh D'Souza, who's a monstrous right winger? They're like, not good enough, because I don't know if you got the memo, idiot. You're brown, and we hate brown people. Go ahead, Dinesh, dance for them, see how it turned out. Keep dancing.

Now these guys show up at Charlie Kirk events and Donald Trump Jr. events, and they say, oh yeah, okay, you're not racist enough. You reap what you sow, though. And they cause a ruckus. Good, I'm glad. Exactly. So, look, I want to show you one quick example of what that looks like. This is Charlie Kirk getting heckled by these people.

And again, you reap what you sow. Who says it's fight for Donald Trump. Who? Big Quentin! This guy is a huge thing. You said he'd say. Boo! No!

No! Boo! America! America first! America first! America! America! Just keep in mind that Charlie Kirk of all people

is pointing fingers and accusing others of being grifters. Oh, hilarious. That's what he said in that video, which is incredible. Well, your grift has come back to haunt you. Yes. So now you guys have unleashed you. unleashed this demon into the world and now when it comes back to bite you, all of a sudden you're like, oh my God, I can't believe people are not in favor of free speech.

What, I thought you were saying that was the leftist? No, it turns out it's the right wing, it's the guys you created. So enjoy. I just don't want to hear about your oppression Olympics, Charlie Kirk. All right, we're gonna take a break when we come back. We have more news for you and we have a small update on the impeachment investigation. basically Fiona Hill had called out Republicans for spreading this nonsense conspiracy theory about Ukraine. And after that hearing, you have Republican senators continuing that nonsense. We'll be back.

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