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Episode Date: September 5, 2020

US Marshalls have killed the man who shot a Trump supporter in Portland. Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur discuss on The Young Turks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Lots of stories for you guys tonight and there will be rage. So let's get started. All right. Michael Forrest Rinell, the Portland man who admitted he was responsible for the fatal shooting of a right wing radical during a night of clashes with Trump supporters, was killed by cops as they attempted to apprehend him. This is based on what the authorities are alleging happened. We don't have too many details, but this has to do with the suspect who shot and killed

Aaron Danielson, a member of Patriot Prayer. Now the U.S. Marshal said a task force was attempting to arrest Michael Forrest right now in Washington State. He was wanted for this charge of murder. Now the initial reports indicated or indicate the suspect produced a firearm. So they're alleging that he had a weapon on him, threatening the lives of law enforcement officers, task force members responded to the threat and struck the suspect who was pronounced dead at the scene. Now, as this was happening, as the authorities were attempting to apprehend

him, Vice actually aired an interview with Rinell. He agreed to speak to the press and he did confess to shooting Aaron Danielson, but says that he did it in an act of self-defense because Danielson was attacking him and a friend with a knife. Now, we do not. know based on local reporting at the time that Danielson did in fact have a knife on him and he also did have a paintball gun. So there is some evidence corroborating that. But without further ado, here is Michael Rinell speaking to the press and explaining why he decided to open fire killing Aaron Danielson. I had no choice. I mean, I had a choice. I could have sat there and and watch them kill a friend of mine of color.

But I wasn't going to do that. You know, that was this straw that broke the camel's bat. My name's Michael Forrest Rinell, born and raised, Portland, Oregon, 48 years old. You know, lots of lawyers suggest that I shouldn't even be saying anything. But I feel it's important that the world at least gets a little bit of what's really going on because there's been a lot of propaganda put out there. What I will say is that I felt that my life and other people around me's lives were in danger. And I felt like I had no choice but to do what I did.

So before the authorities shot and killed him, he had also mentioned to the press that he is not a member of Antifa, despite the fact that was widely reported. He did describe himself as 100% anti-fascist, but never said that he was 100% Antifa, which was something that was originally alleged. Cenk. Yeah, so first of all, Rhino should not have gone there with a weapon, like Kyle Rittenhouse, put the weapons away. Don't go in the middle of heated, passionate situations with guns, because then people will

use them and soon both sides will be using them. Well, they're already both sides using them. What I'm worried about is both sides using them at the same time. So this is this has got disaster written all over. Okay, and I'm gonna in a little bit later give you some quotes of his where he did talk about potentially using force. Now, having said that, Kyle written house defenders say, well, you know, he was hit with a skateboard after he shot someone else in the head. So he had every right to kill the guy who was trying to apprehend him or stop him from killing anyone else. Self defense, right?

Well, in this case, apparently there was definitely a knife, and so that's much worse than a skateboard. So definitely self-defense. So all right-wingers agree, right? Self-defense, because you just said it about written house. And in this case, it appears to be a more significant case of self-defense. So you're all on Reinhold's side, right? Oh, you're not, that's so weird. See, I'm consistent on it.

Both of them should not, both the right wing are in leverage, should not have gone with weapons, and they should not have used those weapons. But the right wing will say, oh, when the right wing does it, it's the slightest provocation or after, after written house shoots someone in the head and someone chased him down, he's being chased out after shooting someone in the head, self-defense, not guilty. The other guy, oh, there's a knife and he might have killed someone? No, not self-defense, why? I don't know, he's left wing.

It doesn't require rational. So now let's look at the cops and whether they were consistent or not. So Britain House goes and murders two people and shoots three and walks up to the cops with his assault. A legal weapon. Yeah, illegal assault weapon hanging out. Cops like, hey, how you doing? They walk him, let him walk right up to their car.

Okay, if he's black, he's already dead. You're walking up to a cop car with an assault weapon. Dead. Dead, no question about it. Writtenhouse saunters up after, after killing two people. So the cops, cops like, hey, how you doing? And then they let him go. Now, in the case of Reinhold, the cops chase him down a couple of days later.

Now, this is super important. Every right wing or online is lying. Every one of them was like, oh, he shot at the cops. He shot at the cops. What are you going to do? He shot at the cops. Of course they had to murder him. No, that's not true.

According to the latest reporting, here's CNN. Initial reports indicate that this suspect produced a firearm. They say it's not known if Ryan Old fired at the officers. Okay, so believe me, if he'd fired at the officers, the first thing the cops would have said is, he fired us, we had to kill him, he fired at us, murder or terrorist, right? If the cops aren't saying he fired at him, there's a 200% chance that he didn't fire at them. So, So, oh, he's running away and he produced a firearm. Yeah, let's just kill him. And so do I trust the cops that they were under threat?

No, I don't. The cops are always on the right wing side. The cops are always against black people and always against the left wing. In nearly every instance that we've covered. So, oh, trust cops on blind faith, you must be nuts. And look at the fact patterns here. One guy, oh yeah, you want to come right up to us with an assault weapon. Oh, you're a right winger and you just murdered left wingers, who cares?

Come on up, buddy, oh, oh, oh, you told us, oh, that's okay, go home. The other guy, oh, he might be running away and he produced a firearm, he didn't shoot it already, he had plenty of opportunity, apparently. We don't know, we'll find out more, we'll find out more, right? But right now, the story is he produced a firearm, so good enough, shoot him, shoot him, shoot him, shoot him, shoot him, dead, dead, dead. So there's no end of hypocrisy. I mean, yes, you're absolutely right.

The hypocrisy is there, we've been pointing it out every single day. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't point it out every single day. But I'm personally done feeling angry at the hypocrisy because they know that they're being hypocritical, they're intentionally being hypocritical, they're intentionally applying a double standard. And we're trying to reason with people who think it's totally okay for, first of all, for police to do extrajudicial killings in this country without allowing people to have their day in court, without allowing people to go through due process and the criminal justice system, they think it's totally fine, right?

As long as it impacts specific groups of people. So there's that. And they're just not interested in fairness, they're not interested in equality. These are people who aren't interested in the facts. And so once you kind of accept that they're not honest actors, that they engage in these conversations and these debates with bad faith, well then it's not that the anger goes away, but it's just this understanding of why even bother reasoning with these people. Now it is important to point out the hypocrisy for everyone else because there's a great deal

of misinformation, actually disinformation involving these protests. As we've given you in previous stories, we've given you statistics. Right-wing extremism in this country is more of a threat when it comes to domestic terror. And we gotta keep giving people that information in order to combat the disinformation that we're hearing from the Trump administration and from other right-wingers. Trump, by the way, also had seen the interview on vise. and immediately tweeted after, why aren't the Portland police arresting the cold-blooded killer of Aaron J. Danielson? Do your job and do it fast. Everybody knows who this thug is. No wonder Portland is going to hell. So to your point, Jank, and by the way, he was obviously

shortly killed by cops after that. But I bring that up because it goes to your point, Jank. We saw the type of defensive commentary Trump provided for Kyle Rittenhouse. You know, essentially talking about how he was defending his life, but when it comes to someone on the left, someone who identifies with the protesters, well, he's a cold-blooded murderer and why doesn't the FBI do its job and get him arrested immediately? So that's what we're dealing with. There's one more video, by the way, from his interview that I'd like to go to, so let's take a quick look at that.

It was a free-for-all and the police were letting it happen. Right after it happened, what did you, did you panic? Did you run? Well, honestly, you know, those are a bit of details I probably don't want to get into, other than just simply saying that, you know, I realized what had happened. I was confident that I did not hit anyone innocent. and I made my exit. Are you okay?

Okay. No. Okay. And just to reiterate, you feel that it was totally justified. Totally justified. Had I not acted, I am confident that my friend and I'm sure I would have been killed because I wasn't going to stand there and let something happen. What they've done is they're trying to make it look like.

We're all terrorists and they're trying to make me look like a murderer. And look, the part of that video that I definitely agree with, and we've seen it in multiple cases, not just in Portland, is that the police seem to allow some of this chaos to happen. We saw in the case of Kenosha, Wisconsin, the cops were very friendly to the armed militia members who were there, including Kyle Rittenhouse. They passed bottles of water to them, literally said, you could hear it in the video. We appreciate you guys, we really do. So I think that that perspective is important and isn't portrayed accurately enough in the way it's reported elsewhere. But I also want to be fair and note that, you know, there are, I'm suspicious of Rinell's

side of the story and he has, as Jank alluded to earlier, promoted the, you know, promoted the use of violence, sometimes he would say no, violence isn't the way, but other times he seemed to be more open to using violence as a way to combat, you know, Trump fueled fascism in the country. And so, and he has some stuff in his criminal record that makes me wonder. So we got to give you the full facts. You know, it is what it is. So, all right, look, first of all, And it says you're right, I grew up naive. I thought the cops are good guys. And partly because I was brainwashed by mainstream media, every news report is growing up,

you watch local news, black guys did something wrong. Cops are amazing heroes who shot black people. Cops are always telling the truth, always, always telling the truth, they're angels. They risked their lives for us. Not really too often. I mean, they just shoot at any threat at all. But that's not what we were told. We were told growing up, cops are the greatest things on earth, right? So when you find out, it turns out no, whether it's Kenosha, Wisconsin, or Portland, or New York, we're gonna show you later on the show. Cops let a guy who runs over protesters, they help them in the beginning, they help

them afterwards, et cetera. It turns out no, the culture of policing, because every cop, fascist, Of course not, of course not, right? But is the culture of policing pro-fascism, absolutely. In this country, unfortunately it is. So when you realize that not only now, but in retrospect, I didn't know all of our lives are in danger because the police aren't actually on the side of all the citizens. And I don't think 90%, 95% of this country realizes that. And so if you're a left-way activist and you want to yell at me and say, Jake, you should

have known earlier. Okay, fair enough. But you have to understand the people you know aren't the majority of the country. The overwhelming majority of the country has been brainwashed by the media into thinking that cops are angels that walk on earth here or maybe walk on clouds. And they always tell the truth and they're just totally neutral and just trying to protect you. But in reality, the history of policing in this country is beat up and assault and abuse and oftentimes kill minorities, and always be against the left wing, crush the left wing in every turn. So they are right wing by their training and culture. So now when we see with our own eyes, because there's cameras everywhere, yeah, okay, now I'm freaked out. Because I mean,

if you have a fascist leader like Donald Trump, and he gives them permission to start murdering people in the streets, or covering up for the murders of people, or if a left winger ever does anything, including self-defense, just shoot them dead, who cares? Well, that's a scary place to live, man. It's a super scary place to live. And so that's where we are. Now, in terms of Trump, you know, we all know it, it's fascism defined. Oh, somebody had a skateboard, self-defense, kill anyone you like, as long as you're on my side. Oh, you're not on my side. Somebody was going to stab you or your friend, you You monster terrorist, cops, why haven't you murdered him yet?

Cops, get in there and murder him. This is US Marshals, they're federal forces. So there's a president telling them, you better go take that guy out. And shortly thereafter, they can go and take the guy out. So that's how fascism works. Now back to Ryan Hall, I want to be super clear about this. Here's quotes from him. He said, every revolution needs people that are willing and ready to fight.

I'm 100% Antifa all the way, so he did say it. I'm willing to fight for my brothers and sisters, even if some of them are too ignorant to realize what Antifa truly stands for. We do not want violence, but we will not run from it either. So he says both sides, and I don't care if he calls himself Antiva. I'm not, I don't care about the label. I like this stupid media like, oh, Antifa, Trump said they're terrorists. I'm going to treat them as terrorists. No, you're an idiot if you think that. In this case, though, you see what happened. He said, if the police continue to pick on and beat up innocent citizens that are peacefully voicing their objections, it must be met with equal force. Don't do

that. No, you're not going to meet it with equal force. You're going to potentially kill someone, and then you're almost certainly going to get killed. It's a really dumb idea has happened here. He says, we truly have an opportunity right now to fix everything. It will be fight like no other. It will be war, and like all wars, there will be casualties. So that is wrong, guys. Do not do that. Do not bring guns to things. Don't think that you're going to outforce them. That's an idiotic way of thinking. And so, look, MLK and Gandhi did nonviolence, and it worked. And it wasn't just because there were giants as moral figures. It was also because they were smart and knew that they were outgunned.

There was no in the world Gandhi was going to outgun the British Empire. And he knew that, and he said that. Same thing with King. So if you think that a couple of left wing guys are going to outgun the entire police in this country, you're an idiot. No, civil disobedience works. That requires even more courage. But if you're right that the right wing and the fascists run this country, for the moment being, yes, you're right, they do. All right, we got to take a quick break.

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a national security threat, one that Donald Trump has completely ignored, and we're seeing the the consequences of that. So some of the more recent cases involve two men in Missouri who were arrested because they were planning on going to Kenosha, Wisconsin, in order to carry out acts of violence, to loot. According to federal agents who had been tailing them, they were arrested in Pleasant Prairie. So they made their way to Wisconsin after receiving a tip, they were coming to Kenosha to possibly loot and pick people off. Now here's the scary part. The FBI tracked Michael Carmo and Cody Smith to the Lakinta Hotel in Pleasant Prairie on September 1st. Investigators said they searched

the men's vehicle and hotel room where FBI agents recovered an AR-15 assault rifle, a 50080 12-gauge shotgun, two shot handguns, a silencer, ammunition, body armor, a drone, and other materials. Now both men have pretty serious criminal records and they had no business, no right to own those weapons. So they had possession of those weapons illegally. Carmo and Smith told agents they quote, wanted to see proof of the rioting and were planning to drive to Portland Oregon next saying they were willing to take action if police were defunded. And I think based on the weapons that were found, we know what they mean when they say take action. There are other cases of right wing radicals carrying out acts of violence recently. But before I

get to that, Cenk, do you want to jump in? Yeah. So if you're wondering, hey, that's where this is the first time I'm hearing this story, well, there's a good reason for that. So if a Black Lives Matter protest, let alone leader, or someone from Antifa had loaded up a whole heap of weapons and said they were going to loot and murder people, it would be the largest story in America. And you all know that. There's not a single person who disputes that. Every right winger was screaming from the rooftops. Trump and Fox News was screaming from the road. We knew it. The Black Lives Matter people are looters. And look at all the weapons they have, terrorists. If it's Antifa, it might even be worse. They're right wingers.

It was like, oh yeah, that's totally normal. So why? Well, it's normal on two fronts. One, I don't blame them because the right wingers do it all the time. So it just gets exhausting. There's nonstop right wing terrorism in this country. So it's, hey, that's Tuesday, a right winger was going to murder people, had untold weapons. And by the way, they were going to steal things, okay? But the second reason is the more devastating one. It's because they, it's a matter of privilege. They think, oh yeah, I mean, the right wing guys are patriots.

And so they were going to defend the robbery, whatever, who cares? It doesn't matter, the right wing can do whatever they want. But if anyone from the left wing ever does anything, terrorists, oh my God, time to send in the tanks. So look, you could see it with your own eyes. There is no dispute. And in this case, think about it. So you all get Trump's hypocrisy. And at this point, I think you all get the police hypocrisy.

But in this case, this is just about the media. The media thinks if the left wing does something wrong, it's terrible and unconscionable and they might be terrorists. If the right wing does something that was gonna be a terrorist act and looting, they think that's not that big a story. No, I think it's actually worse than that because it's the same virus that we've experienced in different contexts, right? And what I've seen in the media without considering the outliers and maybe partisan media,

like I don't consider Fox News. I'm just thinking about like legacy media outlets, corporate media, they're still obsessed with false equivalencies. They're still obsessed with confusing neutrality with objectivity. And I think it's important, look, I'm not saying that if someone on the left carries out an act of violence, they should excuse it or make excuses for it, absolutely not, right? What I'm arguing, though, is don't pretend as if left-wing terrorism is as much of a threat in this country as right-wing extremism because we see it in FBI reporting. We see it in other studies, one of which I'm about to

mention in the context of this story in just a minute. Right-wing extremism is a problem. And when they draw this false equivalency, they needlessly create all this hostility and they antagonize the left. When you look at the numbers, when you look at these protests, the vast majority of them are peaceful, okay? That doesn't mean there aren't ever instances of violence breaking out, but you also have to like study those instances of violence and what escalated to that point, right? So, and by the way, I just gave you some anecdotal evidence, two men from Missouri who just

just got arrested because they were planning on going to Kenosha to carry out acts of violence. That's what those weapons were for. Well, now let's move on to another case, this time Times Square. So there were multiple videos that went viral recently on social media showing a vehicle driving through a group of protesters. This is in Times Square, luckily no one was seriously injured. There were a few minor injuries. The video I'm about to show you is graphic, but it gives you a sense of,

what pro-Trump counter protesters engage in when they show up to these Black Lives Matter demonstrations. So the suspects in that vehicle, I just want to note, I just want to note, did go to the police, they were questioned, and they were released with no charges. Let me give you the details on what we know so far. The vehicle's- Anna, I'm sorry, I'm gonna jump in, and I want you to give the details in a second. But I don't want any cop ever claiming that a car is a deadly weapon anymore. So if you, if the people that are involved, the victims are right wing, or oh my God, God

forbid if the victims are cops. Or like anybody just drives near a cop, they're like deadly weapon, I had to murder my shadow in the head, right? No, you don't have that excuse anymore. You just told me it's not a deadly weapon. You just told me it's no big deal to run over people with your car. No big deal at all. As you're about to find out, it says because it's their right wing buddies. And the right wing buddies try to murder left wingers. So they're like, oh, car's no longer a deadly weapon. Oh, you come anywhere near a cop. We'll shoot you in the head and claim it's a deadly weapon in your car, whether it's a skateboard or a car. The hypocrisy is unreal. So we'll give you the details on how the cops love these guys in a second.

So here's what we know about the perpetrators, the people who are in the vehicle. There were several people in the vehicle and apparently the vehicle's license plate matches that of another car frequently shared on social media by Hakeem Gibson, a pro-NyPD activist who currently runs a law enforcement support page. The Ford Taurus appears to be a former police car purchased from a police auction. According to Facebook Post, Gibson recently outfitted the car with a push bumper and spotlight, joking online that other drivers had often mistaken him for a police officer. Now, one of the other people in the car is a transgender pro-Trump activist who has gotten in trouble several times for defacing Black Lives Matter murals.

And there's one of them in Manhattan, there's another one in Brooklyn. Juliet Germanata is her name, a pro-Trump activist, confirmed that she was in the vehicle with five other counter protesters when the driver floored it through the crowd of Black Lives Matter marchers. She said she felt threatened by the protesters and feared for her life, denying reports from eyewitnesses that the driver was the aggressor in the situation. Look, there are multiple videos of what happened from multiple angles. You guys just saw one of them.

Were the protesters threatening anyone's life in that video you just saw? I mean, it's just, and what amazes me is they go and talk to the cops, and the cops So like, oh, you felt threatened. Of course, yeah, totally fine. No charges, you're free to go. And the NYPD is telling the press that, yeah, yeah, we're still investigating it. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure they are. I'm sure they're really looking to, you know, make sure justice is served in that case where someone could have easily died by getting run over. Yeah. So earlier, you see the cops giving these guys an escort, right, police escort, and they're super friendly with them earlier as in like 10 seconds earlier. Okay, so here it is, right? So, oh, those are the cops,

hey, yeah, hey, and they're protecting them from other people who are just filming, right? Oh my God, the left winger has a camera that seems super dangerous. Let's protect our right wing friends. Now look, look, look at the car, the cops let him go, okay, so they're going to thing, so it's not like the car was surrounded by protesters. No, you just saw the beginning of that video, and the first video we showed you was the tail end. They come up to the protesters and boom, they floor, okay? So no provocation, anything. Cops look at it, they're like, oh yeah, those guys are our buddies that we just escorted and protected. Oh, they just ran over some protesters. Oh, great, no problem. Or did they chase them? No, of course not.

And then the guys come in, and the cops talk to them, they go, oh, you try to kill protesters? Great, man, thanks, buddy, appreciate it. And so now they let him go, totally go, and they did they do nothing happened, nothing wrong. And then they said, oh, it was on camera, okay, we're still investigating, okay? And it depends. If there's enough political pressure and we're worried someone one of us might get fired, we'll do some trappings of pretending to care. And when you're not looking, we'll let him go anyway.

But for now, no one's been arrested. It's clear as day, they have video, what do you, imagine if they had video of a left winger or a black person, same exact situation that runs over cops. Do you think they'd still be- No, no, no, hold on, let me get this right. Do you think they'd still be investigating? Or do you think they would have already gone to that person's house and shot them dead? Okay, come on, keep her. Yeah, we know what the answer is.

Well, because look, we're talking about the NYPD, where in the beginning of the civil unrest in this country, we had multiple examples of them running over protesters themselves. They see the protesters as their opponents, their political enemies. That's the reason why they're so friendly to the counter protesters, even as they carry out acts of violence and terror. That's what's going on. That's what we're seeing. Again, like we saw NYPD SUVs run over a crowd of protesters.

Luckily no one died in that instance, but it's just they did it themselves, Jank. They don't care. And so we gave you some anecdotal evidence. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything. What matters is if you look at the bigger picture, what is the trend? And the trend is that right wing radicals pose the biggest threat to people's safety. There's another study that looked into this. It's a report by the nonprofit armed conflict location and event data project.

They concluded that an escalation in the government response to protests and a sharp uptick in extremist act. The new BMO, V.I. Porter, MasterCard, is your ticket to more. More perks, more points, more flights, more of all the things you want in a travel rewards card and then some get your ticket to more with the new bemo v i porter mastercard and get up to $2,400 in value in your first 13 months terms and conditions apply visit bimo dot com slash the i porter to learn more activity means the united states faces a growing risk of political violence and instability ahead of the 2020 election so their worries their concerns are about

how the Trump administration escalates violence and how right wing extremism poses a threat, not just now, but as we get closer to the general election. And then they looked at the Black Lives Matter movement overall to see if there's any truth to this narrative we've been hearing about looting and violence and how dangerous they are. Here's what they found. About 93% of the racial justice protest that swept the United States this summer, remain peaceful and non-destructive. So they looked at looting as well, 93%. Okay, so guys, this part's super important.

Because first of all, even among the 7%, did they include the stores being burned down? Of course they did, right? So that's part of that 7% where there was violence. But a lot of the 7% was when counter protesters showed up and began violence. And a lot of, and even more of it, was when cops showed up and started attacking the protesters. And so now they count both sides. So when left wing starts it or the protesters started or they do violence, they count that. When the police then cause the violence to begin, they count that.

They don't care who started it. They count, but they do note who started it, right, to the best of their ability. And the majority of it is police or counter protesters starting it. Now, I'm only telling you that in the context of, so it's even a smaller number than 7%. So the overwhelming majority of the protests are totally peaceful. So now when you turn on the news, is that the impression that you get? Now I know why they, part of why they do it, burning buildings are amazing footage and everybody gets scared and then they get glued to their TV and it's catnip for media.

They just, oh, they love it so much, right? And they show 24-7. But when the media shows a couple of percentage points, like, hey, that happens 2, 3% of the time, but they show it 24-7, it makes it look like it happens 100% of the time. So the impression left for the audience and for the American people is, oh my God, these protesters are constantly burning things down, and they're all rioters and looters, et cetera. And then the Trump and the Fox News come in and go, oh, the poor right wing, when they go in there and shoot people in the head, they're just doing self-defense.

I mean, you saw the burning buildings. And so that's how propaganda works. And the whole country is misled, honestly, mainly by corporate media into thinking that left-wing and minorities are the agitators, the aggressors, and are mostly violent when in fact, the number Let's show you it's the exact opposite. Gotta take a quick break. When we return, we'll talk about Donald Trump and how he has been a juvenile baby when it comes to criticizing others and then later denying it.

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soldiers were, in his words, losers and suckers. Now I say it was a shocking piece, but to be honest with you, not so shocking when you consider all the different times he transparently, brazenly said terrible things about members of our military, who happened to disagree with him politically. But here he is denying it. And then I'll give you what the facts are. To think that I would make statements negative to our military and our fallen heroes when nobody's done what I've done with the budgets, with the military budgets, with getting pay raises for our military. It is a disgraceful situation by a magazine that's a terrible magazine. I don't read it. I disagreed with John McCain, but I still respected him. And I had

to approve his funeral as president. We lowered the flags. I had to approve that. Nobody else, I had to approve it. When you think, and I'm just thinking back, I had to approve either Air Force 1 or a military plane to go to Arizona to pick up his casket. And I approved it immediately. So let's take a look at a Trump tweet from 2015, because there's always a tweet. This is from July 18th, 2015, where Trump referred to John McCain as a loser. I mean, he tweeted an article about himself calling John McCain a loser. So he was bragging about it. Also, when McCain died in 2018, Trump refused to lower the White House flag back to half staff, even though it's become customary for presidents to sign

a proclamation calling for the flag to remain at half staff for members of Congress until the day of internment, and then one other piece of evidence to kind of refute Trump's narrative in that video. Take a look. And I said, somebody should run against John McCain, who has been, you know, in my opinion, not so hot. And I supported him. I supported him for president. I raised a million dollars for him. It's a lot of money. I supported him. He lost. He let us down. But, you know, he lost. So I'd never liked him as much after that, because I don't like losers. But, but Frank, Frank, Let me get to it.

He hit me, he's a war hero. He's a war hero. He's a war hero. He's a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured, okay? I hate to tell you. That was from a 2015 event in Iowa.

Jank. So I don't know how to talk to Trump supporters anymore. That's why I say I'm done with them in my personal life and everywhere else. Because the guy is a ridiculous. Ridiculous liar, doesn't he know that he tweeted out, John McCain is a loser? Doesn't he know he said on tape? I mean, that was a massive moment. You guys all remember when he said I prefer people who weren't captured.

But earlier he said, I don't like losers referring to John McCain. So why did he come out yesterday and say, no, I never called him a loser. He's just unbelievable, he's unbelievable. And so if you say, hey, you know what, I love people who are liars, okay. I get, I mean, do you, boo? Okay. And look, again, I blame the media. And because so many politicians lie. And they never call it out. They never, they enabled politicians' lies for decades. So eventually you got one that's so over the top that even they had to be like, whoa. And remember, you guys remember, it took them like a couple of years before they

finally gathered up the nerve to say, well, what Donald Trump said there was not. Correct. I'm like, is it okay? Yeah. Is it okay? Is it okay? I'm forgetting the name of the CNN analyst who finally just said it and then went on this three-minute rant, fact-checking Trump.

It was fact-checking Trump's R&C speech, but he started that three-minute rant by saying Trump lied. He's a liar. And I was like, is this CNN? What's going on? And so yeah, you're right, Jenk. You're right, Jank. The fact that that excited me because it's so rare, I think, means something. And we'll get you the name of the person I'm talking about because he deserves all the credit. I'm just kind of blanking right now. But look, I actually think with this particular story

and a few others, the media has done a decent job. So for instance, Business Insider had a very lengthy list highlighting all the different times Donald Trump attacked members of the military, And fallen soldiers. So I wanna read a few of them right now. In fact, as you guys can probably remember, in July of 2016, Trump attacked the family of Captain Humine Khan, a slain soldier, someone who died fighting for the country, dismissing a speech his father Kaiser Khan made because he said Khan's mother hadn't been allowed to speak. The family said she had not spoken because she was too emotional to talk about her son's death. And he just kept going after that family. It was honestly disgusting. In October of 2017, Trump forgot the name of slain U.S. Army Sergeant

La David Johnson while he was on the phone with his widow. Johnson was killed in an ambush in Niger while an active service. Maisha Johnson said the call with Trump made her cry and that Trump told her that her husband knew what he had signed up for. In November of 2018, Fox News's Chris Wallace asked Trump about his thoughts on retired Admiral William McRaven, a former Navy SEAL who had been, who was behind the mission that killed Osama bin Laden. He interrupted Wallace and said, Hillary Clinton fan. When Wallace continued, Trump did too, excuse me, Hillary Clinton fan. Trump went on to repeat that McRaven supported Clinton, which by the way he hadn't, as well

as former President Barack Obama and said, frankly, wouldn't it have been nice if we got Osama bin Laden a lot sooner than that? I mean, there's so many more examples, Jank, but I mean, I want to give you an opportunity to respond to some of them. And by the way, Daniel Dale is the CNN reporter that I was referring to earlier. Go ahead. So we've seen him call the general's losers thousands of times. And so I guess people People are shocked that he would go and call the fallen soldiers, losers as well, and not just stop at generals or veterans or captured soldiers, but is it really shocking at all? He calls everybody losers.

I mean, in his denial, he called the military people who were the sources for this story low lives and liars. If you're trying to deny that you'd ever call anybody in the military losers, you shouldn't then turn around in your denial and call them low lives and liars. So and look, Atlantic broke the story with four sources, then Washington Post backed it up with three sources and then Associated Press also found sources all saying the same thing. He said it. I actually wanna read a few excerpts from the Washington Post piece.

Again, these aren't the same sources, these are additional sources who also spoke to the Washington and posts about their experience with Trump and what he had to say about fallen soldiers. In one account, the president told senior advisors that he didn't understand why the US government placed such a high value on finding, oh, this is so disgusting, finding soldiers missing in action because they had performed poorly and gotten caught and deserved what they got, according to a person familiar with the discussion. Okay, I, that part of the story, like I don't know, All of it is gross, but that part hit me the hardest because he just doesn't value people's lives. And think about losing a family member that way and knowing that the president of the United States does not care to find their bodies.

Trump believed people who served in Vietnam War must be losers because they hadn't gotten out of it according to a person familiar with the comments. Trump also complained bitterly to then chief of staff John Kelly that he didn't understand why Kelly and others in the military treated McCain who had been imprisoned and tortured during the Vietnam War with such reverence. Isn't he kind of a loser? Trump asked, according to a person familiar with Trump's comments. So, look, Donald Trump says this is outrageous, it's anonymous sources. Donald Trump also just a couple of days ago, said that there was a plane full of thugs who were going to come and disturb his acceptance speech and cause violence. And when asked, who told you that? He said, I can't tell

you. Basically, it's anonymous. So wait, I'm supposed to believe your anonymous source of a, oh, trust me, it's a God you would know, trust me. But we're not supposed to believe Now it looks like about a half a dozen military sources that talked to three different publications, all saying the same thing, and all saying things that are very similar to what you've said before. And by the way, yesterday on the show, before the Washington Post and Associated Press stories came out, I said, I guarantee you that he thinks that they're suckers because he got out of Vietnam with a fake doctor's note, because his daddy bought him one, and he thinks there's suckers for not being able to get out of the war like his spoiled ass.

And it turns out that's exactly what he said, according to the military sources that heard him say. Yeah, yeah. And remember, when sources are anonymous to the general public, that doesn't mean that they're anonymous to the reporters. Reporters have to vet their anonymous sources and corroborate what they're saying. So maybe they're anonymous to us, but they're not anonymous to the reporters. All right, postgame is next. You don't want to miss it. We have a banana story involving democratic strategists see you there thanks for listening to the full episode of the young turks support our work listen ad-free access members only bonus content and more by subscribing to apple podcasts at apple dot co slash t yt i'm your host jank huger and i'll see you soon