The Young Turks - War Is Over? - June 15, 2026
Episode Date: June 16, 2026The United States and Iran have reportedly agreed to a framework peace deal aimed at ending their 15-week conflict, marking a major diplomatic breakthrough even as Benjamin Netanyahu warns the agreeme...nt could undermine Israel’s security interests. "Thanks to today's sponsors: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/tyt Get 40% OFF the Ground News Vantage Plan when you sign up at ground.news/tyt Stay informed without the media spin at ground.news/tyt Visit www.sleep.me/tyt to get up to $255 off your Chilipad 2.0 with code TYT Use less data, get paid by switching to Noble Mobile: https://go.tyt.com/getnoble " Hosts: Ana Kasparian, Cenk Uygur SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞ https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER ☞ https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH ☞ https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'm so upset.
Oh, my God.
Let's see how Earth responds to that.
Begha!
Thank you, or Anna Kusperin with you guys.
So great to be back.
And I come back to pretty good news.
I'm curious what Anna thinks of this, and we'll get to that in a second.
But it looks like we have the beginnings of a peace deal.
We'll get to that momentarily.
Trita Parsley is going to join us again today.
Talk about what could be in that deal.
Is it real?
How real is it?
Kinnon last even with of course Israel trying to destroy it, which is what they're doing
right now.
And then later in the program, not a big deal, but it turns out Donald Trump was considering
taking away one of the foundations of Western civilization, habeas corpus.
So we'll get to that story as well.
First, Caspar, how you doing?
I'm doing great.
Really, really great to have you back.
Very excited for the show today.
I'm in an oddly fantastic mood.
It has nothing to do with news.
And it might be masking my skepticism in regard to this memorandum of understanding.
But let's just wait and see what happens.
I'm hoping I'm wrong.
But we'll get to the details in just a bit.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, let's dive into that story.
So we have a deal.
Do we, this time we actually might. Why? Because Israel's pissed. So that's probably why it means it's real. Anna, tell us all about it.
Well, indeed, Israel is absolutely panicking over what we are hearing is an agreed upon framework for a memorandum of understanding between the United States and Iran.
It is set to be signed Friday of this week in Geneva. But Israel panicking about the potential memorandum,
memorandum of understanding being signed makes me worry the most because I think it's eventually
going to come to a face off between the United States and Israel and whether Donald Trump is
willing to do what it takes to make good on his promises as part of this MOU. That remains to be seen.
But let me give you the details as we know them. Now, it's really important to keep in mind
that this is simply a memorandum of understanding that extends the ceasefire by another 60 days.
And in those 60 days, the whole point is that the United States and Iran will negotiate for a long-term peace deal.
Now, in regard to the framework of the memorandum of understanding, we don't have, you know, the hardcore details.
There's a little bit of a lack of information coming out right now, but we do have some statements coming from, you know, various players on the negotiations.
So let's start off with the prime minister of Pakistan. As we all know, Pakistan has kind of served as a
mediator between the United States and Iran. The prime minister Shabash Sharif says, following
intensive talks, we are pleased to announce that the peace deal between the United States and
America, United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran has been reached. Again,
it's not a peace deal. It's a memorandum of understanding. Nonetheless, both sides have declared
the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon.
And that is a huge sticking point, as many of you probably already know, but we'll dig into that in just a bit.
Now, President Trump also released a statement saying that the deal with the Islamic Republic of Iran, note the fact that he is respecting their actual formal title.
Islamic Republic of Iran is now complete.
Congratulations to all.
I hereby fully authorize the toll-free opening of the Strait of Hormuz and simultaneously herewith authorize the Amity.
removal of the United States naval blockade.
Ships of the world, start your engines, let the oil flow.
And, Jank, I think that his statement there is telling because he is emphasizing the importance
of reopening the Strait of Hormuz, as we've reported on this show multiple times.
Trump has been able to mitigate absolute disastrous spikes in oil prices by tapping into
the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
And we have been selling oil like crazy and at a discount in some cases in order to, I guess,
lessen the blow to some of our allies as a result of what Trump stupidly was persuaded by the Israelis
to do, which is to attack Iran.
Now, right now, we don't know for sure what the terms are of the memorandum of understanding,
but apparently it immediately reopens the strait.
The U.S. lifts its blockade.
Iran agrees to never pursue a nuclear weapon, which they've promised to do and were committed
to.
again and again and again.
All right, Iran has agreed to dilute its highly enriched uranium.
They had already agreed to that previously.
And the US, this is another sticking point, Jank.
The US frees $25 billion worth of frozen Iranian assets.
So as you can imagine, the Israelis are losing their minds.
And even though they tried to sabotage the MOU over the weekend by attacking Beirut,
Lebanon, which is a red line for Iran, it appears that the Trump administration is
moving forward with this anyway.
Yeah, so first off, we might have actually gotten to the limit of how much Israel can control
America.
And that's a bold statement, so we'll have to see it before we believe it.
But it appears that we're going in that direction for specifically the reason that Anna mentioned
there.
This the price of oil and the inflation that it's causing and the economic turmoil that it's
causing is just too painful.
And one of the things that Trump is getting back from almost all the Republicans in Congress
is, bro, have you seen our polling numbers?
This is, we're going to get wiped out.
You've got to turn around right now, right now.
If you don't turn around now, we're all in deep trouble when these midterms come around.
And Trump doesn't want the stock market to go down.
He, you know, is concerned about losing Congress, losing his own power.
And so it looks like they, that some Americans have begun to prevail over the Israelis
within the American government, which is a shocking development.
And so of course Israel will try to destroy that.
We'll get to that in a second, but it's definitely real because you've got the Israel First
Pundits panicking all over American media.
And I love the smell of Israel first pundit panic in the morning.
And so that's definitely what we got today.
So it's super loosey goosey, this memorandum of understanding.
It's basically saying, you guys gonna get rid of your nuclear weapons, not your entire
nuclear program, but your weapons program.
And the Iranians are like, yeah, bro.
We've been saying that to you like eight different times and eight different deals, but yeah,
sure, we are.
And you're gonna open the Strait of Hormuz?
Sure, and you guys are gonna leave?
Yeah, and you're gonna end your blockade, yeah.
Okay, great, deal.
And Anna, what did we say every day on this show?
That that deal was so easy.
And here it is, it's super easy.
The critical part was Trump, you know, drawing the line with Israel and saying, yeah, I don't
really care how much war you want anymore.
I've given you everything. I hit him the first. I started a whole war for you.
Last year, I started a second war for you. I've given you everything. I've got nothing left to give
because now if I go any further, I'm done for. And so that's why we're at this critical juncture now.
Well, look, Jank, I think that the real test will be whether or not Trump is willing to
put Israel in its place when it inevitably begins carpet bombing Lebanon, unless, and just,
Joe Kent makes this point all the time and I appreciate him for being so repetitive about it because it's important for the American people to understand how this works.
The only way to really use our leverage against the Israelis is to point to the weapons that we, the American people, are forced into bankrolling on Israel's behalf and let them know no more weapons for you.
Okay, no, we're not going to give you any more bombs. We're not going to provide any more military support as you continue carpet bombing Lebanon.
They've ethnically cleansed southern Lebanon.
Now they're getting to work over in Beirut, very clearly doing what we all predicted Israel was really up to.
This is not about building a security buffer.
This is about ethnically cleansing and settling land that doesn't belong to the Israelis.
But again, I am willing to give Trump credit if and when I see him engage in actions that check the Israelis.
And so far, you know, we've gotten some reporting from Barack Revid indicating that after Israel struck southern, I'm sorry,
the suburbs of Beirut over the weekend attempting to sabotage the deal.
Trump allegedly called Beebe and had some harsh words, some finger wagging.
And I don't know, based on the statements from Israeli officials, it doesn't seem like they
intend to pull out of Lebanon at all.
They want to continue their assault against Lebanon.
And so what happens then?
That's the real question here.
So as much as I want to celebrate because I desperately want this war to come to an end,
there are still some very big questions that need to be answered.
Yeah, well, look, the biggest question of all is what's going to happen in Lebanon, right?
Because Trump very clearly said in his announcement that this includes Lebanon.
And then Israel Kats of Defense Minister came out and said, no, it doesn't include Lebanon.
And we don't care if it does.
We're going to stay in southern Lebanon.
We're going to keep southern Lebanon.
Of course, they will say for a security buffer, right, for some Levens realm, some reading space for Israel.
So as we told you all along, of course they're going to keep it that the whole point was
to steal southern Lebanon.
And so they're not going to back away from that.
He said, not only that, we'll continue bombing Gaza and Syria.
So like they're basically saying we're nowhere near done.
We told you greater Israel, we meant greater Israel.
Then then Yao comes out and backs him up and says, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, we're not leaving Lebanon at all.
So Trump is saying you gotta go, Israel's saying absolutely not.
So what happens next?
So here's what I can guarantee you.
Israel is not leaving Lebanon.
It doesn't matter how forcefully we say it.
It doesn't matter how many strongly ordered letters we send.
The only thing that can make any difference at all is, I think you mistook me for someone
who stutters.
No, we're going to take away every dime you get.
You're not going to get to merge militaries.
You're not going to get to do any of these maniacal things.
We are completely and utterly done with you if you do not leave.
southern Lebanon. Now does Trump have the Cajonis to do that? No, he doesn't. There isn't
a single American politician that does, well, maybe Rokana, maybe Tom Massey, but they're
not in power. And so then how do we resolve this? I think Anna, the way to resolve it,
the way that it might resolve itself is through Trump's kind of funny, starting something
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will be really upset. This is Miriam's war, right? And he doesn't want them doing whatever they've
threatened to do with him before. At the same time, he can't stay. So I think that there's some
chance that as I've said all along that Trump will go, hey, listen, we have a deal.
And the straight is back open.
I'm good, we ended their nuclear weapons program, we're leaving.
And we pull up and start going.
So we're not saying Israel, we're gonna cut off your funds, we're not saying you can't
go into Lebanon, we're just gonna leave.
And if Israel and Iran want to keep fighting, my guess is Trump's gonna say, hey, that's kind
of a you problem, not a me problem, which would actually be not so bad.
I mean, that'd be fantastic.
Yeah.
I would welcome that outcome entirely.
If Israel would like to go it alone, by all means, please go it alone.
Enjoy, have a great time.
Let's see how that works out for you.
But again, if we're going to be supplying the weaponry for them to carry out their assaults,
not just against Iran, but now several countries in the region, that does emboldened them
and that provides support for what they're doing.
And I'm not going to buy for a second that the White House is against it, if they are supplying
the weapons necessary for Israel to do it. If you want to go it alone, go it alone for real
without the American taxpayers having to bankroll whatever, you know, project Israel wants to engage
in in the Middle East. But one other thing I wanted to point to, Jank, that you had mentioned
earlier, you know, you talked about, you said something about like who wins in this deal,
the framework of this MOU. And I got to be honest with you, for the United States, it is actually
kind of miraculous that if things play out the way that Trump is advertising right now,
we're actually incredibly lucky that Iran might actually allow transit through the Strait
of Hormuz without a toll. We lost this war so badly. We got spanked hard. Okay.
Our eyes are still teary from that spanking. There was no need for Iran to offer any concession.
There was no military option for the United States to reopen the Strait of Hormuz without a toll, without the Iranians having control of it.
So the fact that it's possible that this deal could be signed and the Strait of Hormuzes will be open for transit toll free, that's kind of amazing.
And that's a pretty good deal that, again, the Iranians didn't have to offer.
Yeah, so last two things on that.
So we're going to talk more about this a little bit later in the program.
But the Iranians do have provision in the MOU, apparently, that calls for Iranian arrangements
for the Strait of Hormuz.
So that is a loophole for charging something and not calling it a toll.
So that's not completely foreclosed yet.
And as we'll discuss later, the Iranian hardliners think that's not enough, that they should
have definitely kept a toll.
But the second thing that I want to say that people are purposely.
trying to confuse you over in media in America is, well, we wanted this, this, and this,
and so we didn't get that, and so that's not good enough, et cetera. No, as any gambler knows,
there's the bet before the game starts, and then there's the bet after the game has started.
Because after the game has started, the conditions change entirely. So you could say that
you wanted X, Y, or Z before the war started, but that's entirely irrelevant. There's now,
Now, after the war began, it became absolutely clear that we cannot open up the Strait of Hormuz
without Iran giving us permission.
So they, we tested them and they passed the test militarily.
We might hate that, but that's the reality on the ground and in the water, and there's no
question over it.
And that's why we're doing this deal.
That isn't that great for us in terms of what we could have gotten, and it was a war
worth it? Absolutely not. Has it put us backward rather than forward? Yes, by the way, again,
all things we told you would happen, and they happened exactly as we said they would. And so given
the situation now, though, it's a pretty good deal for us. Because all right, we'll work out
the Iranian arrangements. You know, there's going to be, apparently JD Vance didn't disagree,
about $300 billion that is going to go to rebuilding Iran, but not from us from the Gulf countries.
So at least it's not coming from us.
The Strait of Hormuz opens back up and the economy can go back to functioning and we
could get inflation under control.
So given where we are today, and we end their nuclear weapons program, it's a pretty good
deal for us.
It's I think a pretty good deal for Iran.
That's why the only people crying are the Israelis.
And it's not like Israel suffers at all.
It's not like, oh my God, they gotta give up Tel Aviv or Haifa.
No, they're just like, oh no, we didn't get to murder.
to murder everyone in Iran.
We didn't get to neuter another regional opponent.
And we didn't get to put in a puppet regime.
Oh, boo.
I disagree with you, Jank.
Israel loses big.
If a peace deal is eventually signed
with terms similar to what we outlined here,
Israel by making the stupid decision
to pressure the United States to carry out this war
is in a far more precarious position
in the Middle East.
Because think about it.
I mean, right now, the Iranian government, the IRGC,
thanks to the fact that we assassinated their leaders,
the latest batch of leaders are younger and they are in fact hardliners.
In fact, the hardliners within the IRGC right now as we speak are not happy with this deal,
even though Iran comes out really getting a ton of concessions from the United States.
So you have hardliners in charge.
There is no indication that we're going to do anything about Iran's ballistic missiles.
There's no indication that the United States is going to pressure Lebanon to disarm Hezbollah
in order for a, you know, in order for a peace deal or in order for Israel to stop, you know,
carpet bombing Lebanon or ethnically cleansing the southern half of it.
So Israel should learn a lesson from this.
Okay, maybe maybe the bloodthirstiness in the end isn't going to work out so well for you.
I think Israel isn't a weaker position and they deserve it.
But rather than learning lessons from it, right now as we speak,
they're trying to find ways to sabotage a possible peace deal.
Yeah, but I don't think we're disagreeing because I'm not saying that Israel doesn't come out in a weaker position.
They certainly do, right?
But what is the weaker position going to cost them?
It's going to cost them their ability to do more offense.
So it's like they make it seem, of course, as always, like as an existential threat.
Oh no, we're all gonna die, right?
No, nothing's gonna happen to Israel unless they keep egging on and egging on and egging on Iran
and they get into a full scale war without our backing, which they might do.
But then that's, again, their goddamn problem.
And so, but right now they can solidify their gains.
They've already added a ton of territory even without southern Lebanon.
And there's no threat to Israel itself at all unless they keep pushing for more and more.
war and somehow get into a war they can't handle without our aid, right?
So all it does is it hurts their ability to execute their fascist plans for greater Israel.
Okay, great, I'm thrilled about that.
But it's not like it's put Israel in any kind of existential danger.
It's just hurt their ability to take more land from their neighbors.
That's exactly right.
So yeah, we absolutely do agree.
what this war has actually accomplished is a new like defense umbrella or defense makeup within the Middle East, right?
With Iran essentially serving as a check and balance to Israel's aggression and greater Israel project,
pursuit of the greater Israel project.
So it's kind of ironic considering all of the fearmongering we hear about Iran here in the United States and the Western world period.
But at the end of the day, it is shameful that you have to rely on Iran of all countries
to check Israeli aggression in the region.
And we'll see if it works.
I'm hoping it does because I want the endless bloodshed in the Middle East to end.
Before we end, Jank, I do want to, or go to our next segment, I do want to just do a quick
juxtaposition of what can be heard within the Trump administration.
Because you can tell that there are some pretty significant differences, if not in action,
certainly in rhetoric. And so I'm going to start off with J.D. Vance. So as you had mentioned earlier,
you know, J.D. Vance had confirmed that as part of the memorandum of understanding between the
United States and Iran, the U.S. would facilitate $300 billion in war damages for Iran.
And I want you to watch that video right now. This is A4. Take a look.
The Iranians are saying that they're going to have access to a $300 billion reconstruction fund,
true or false?
Well, Ed, that's the sort of thing they could have access to, funded by the Gulf Coast Coalition, so long as they honor their end of the obligation.
I think that one of the things you're going to see, Ed, and people have to be skeptical of this, is that the hardliners in the Iranian system will over-emphasize the benefits that Iran gets, while under-emphasizing all the things that they have to concede and all the things they have to provide in order to get these benefits.
So we absolutely are open to the Gulf Coast countries investing in the reconstruction of Iran,
but only if Iran ends their nuclear program, ends their enriched stockpile of material,
and it was really open to an inspections and enforcement regime that gives the American people confidence
they're never going to have a nuclear weapon.
So there you have the vice president who on multiple occasions, I've warned the audience not to like
buy into this idea that he's like some sort of dove.
But at the end of the day, you know, his messaging there, I think, was the right messaging.
He struck a good balance.
You know, he's offering a diplomatic means in helping Iran rebuild following a pretty disastrous
war.
But it's quid pro quo based, meaning, you know, if Iran carries through with its part of this
plan, this deal.
Now, juxtapose the tone and the rhetoric of the vice president with our Secretary of Defense
slash Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. Here's what he was saying over the weekend A3.
Did the Hezbollah Israel strikes disrupt any of the plans to have this memorandum signed today?
Are we on track for a Sunday signing?
From all I know, we are on track. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
There's logistics involved into how these things happen.
Ultimately, obviously, we're attuned to what's happening with Hezbollah firing rockets into northern Israel,
which they need to stop doing, and Iran needs to encourage them to stop doing that in very adamant
ways. And Israel was very measured in its response, understanding that a deal is on, is we're on the verge of a deal.
So nothing was signed on Sunday. That's been postponed to Friday in Geneva. But, you know,
it's just interesting to me, Jank, that again and again, you see Hegsith regurgitating the
neoconservative talking points in order to, you know, keep the line.
for conflict and war open.
It seems like he feels like he really did shine throughout this war,
which couldn't be further from the truth.
But I'm sorry, Israel didn't attack the suburbs of Beirut this past weekend because of Hezbollah.
Okay, they did it to sabotage a potential peace deal.
Nothing scares the Israelis more than the possibility of peace breaking out.
Yeah.
So a couple of things there.
First off, I mean, if we're really gonna do a $300 billion fund, and when I say we,
I know it comes from the Gulf countries, but still, to give Iran $300 billion at the end of
this war, that shows you the depth of how badly we lost if we're keeping it real from the
beginning of the war, right?
And that's why we were right to not go in.
The first was still, at this day, it's not our money, take it and run, okay?
Want to be super clear about that.
Secondly, yeah, it's not just Pete Heggseth.
Almost all mainstream media is Pete Heggseth.
Every article I read today is, Israel forced to attack Lebanon because of Hezbollah's, you know, aggression into Israel.
They make it sound like Lebanon is invading Israel and has taken northern Israel instead of the reality, which is that Israel invaded Lebanon and has taken southern Lebanon.
Every article responding to Hezbollah, we're forced into responding to Hezbollah.
Nonsense.
They're all lying nonstop on behalf of Israel.
It's disgusting.
So, but finally, we're curious what you guys think because, I mean, how is this going
to end?
What happens in Lebanon?
Can we ever be, you know, can we ever get to peace because Anna's right?
Everybody knows.
Look, this question we wouldn't ask you, because it's obvious.
Is Israel for peace or war?
Of course it's for war, endless war.
All we've ever gotten is requests for one more after one war after another after another.
The idea of peace makes Israel like jittery, like they're on withdrawal symptoms.
Like where's my war?
Where's my war?
Like one more war.
Okay, and these are the disgusting people that our politicians are pretending are our allies?
Anyway, will the current US, this is we're asking at t.yt.com.
Will the current US Iran peace deal hold or will Israel kill it?
A, it will hold and the war will finally be over.
B, it won't hold Israel will kill it.
C, Israel will attempt to kill it, but we won't listen to them.
That's what I'm rooting for, but I don't know if that's the one that's going to happen or not.
I might have to answer, not sure for D on this one.
But we all know Israel's never going to accept peace.
That's anathema to the current Israeli government.
And honestly, to the Israeli government in the past, in the future, if you're a settler colony
and you want to expand, the only thing that's gonna get you that is more war.
So they've always been in favor of war, they've never stopped being at war with their neighbors.
And so they're going to be furious at the idea of peace.
The only question that remains is what is Trump gonna do about it once Israel tries to start
this war for the third time?
Well, we're gonna hear from specific Israelis.
and all there panicking and whining when we return for the next segment.
Make sure you stick around for that. We'll be right back.
All right, let's go to members on t.com.
Jenks tricep of fury says, hi folks, peace deal going to last hell.
No, Israel won't allow it.
But Jenk is back, so I'll take the win.
Well, thank you.
Panic of Funkatron on Funkatron says,
I'm actually surprised Trump cares about anything other than himself.
Well, no, not really.
I mean, he cares that his reputation and his legacy is going to be utterly ruined.
his economy is going to be ruined.
So it definitely comes back to him and his reputation.
LCPR 666 says, nope, don't believe it.
There will be a false flag or some other panic or they'll just bitchwalk Trump back to the war.
You know, that's one of the things we didn't mention.
We mentioned that earlier in the possibility that they have blackmail on Trump.
If you're a mainstream media reporter and you're outraged by that idea, shut up, and you're an idiot.
And but there's also the possibility of a false flag attack.
And again, if you're not concerned about that because you think, oh, Israel would never do that.
Okay, again, you're an idiot.
Of course Israel would do that.
Israel would do anything for more war and bloodshed.
So, yeah, we should be on the lookout for that for sure.
Free Love says Trump will let Israel break the deal with no repercussions.
Then when around retaliates, Trump will frame it as around being the aggressor.
This will continue until Trump and BB use nuclear weapons.
afterwards they'll just justify by saying we had no choice. Iran wouldn't play the terms of the peace
deal were being played as always.
All right, back on the online news show, the Young Turks, Jake Hugar and Anna Kisperin with you guys.
And these lovely people who just signed up through t.yt.com slash join. Anna's homeboy,
Carolyn 61, Colby Duh, 666, Captain Crazy Eyes, and the seventh angel. Now that's a crew.
That sounds like the cast of a Quentin Tarantino movie. So I love that. Yeah, I'm loving that my boy's watching. I see you.
Okay, we've got your homeboy. We've got Captain Crazy Eyes and the 7th Angels. Can't go wrong.
All right, Casper, what's next? Oh, here. Yeah. Sorry. Let me go to.
Wait, wait, are we going to Trita now or later? No, no, second hour. So Trita Parsy is going to be our guest for today. He's going to kind of go over, you know,
some of his expertise and analysis on the potential MOU being signed later this week.
But for now, I thought we could maybe focus a little bit on the reaction to the pending MOU.
Okay, so let me take it away. Israel first is in a panic and it's beautiful to watch.
Mark Levin is like, no, not peace. Ben Shikuro's like, no, they're all breaking out in hives at the idea of peace.
We can't have peace. I love it. We're gonna show you the clips right here. Anna, what do you got for us?
Yes. Now before we get to a nice mashup of the Israel firsters in the U.S.
absolutely losing their minds that peace might break out. What a shock. Let me give you some
statements from actual officials in Israel, beginning with Israel Katz, who says, by the way,
this is the Israeli defense minister. He says, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and I are leading
a clear policy that determines that the IDF will remain in the security zones in Lebanon,
and Gaza without any limit.
So basically he's saying, we will continue occupying and bombing these countries,
regardless of what the United States is demanding of us,
mostly because they would want to sabotage a possible peace deal.
The Iranians have made very clear that bombing Lebanon, remaining in Lebanon,
occupying Lebanon is a red line for them.
And there will be no peace deal unless Israel pulls out.
So what Katz is saying here is, no, we're not going to do that.
We're not going to pull out.
He says Syria and Gaza without any time limit to protect the border and Israeli communities from there against jihadist elements.
Now, as you can imagine, it's Mar Ben-Gavir had his own unhinged statements to make.
Now, remember, let me just preface this by saying Ben-Gavir and other Israeli officials have tried to convince the international community.
and the American people that the whole reason why they're attacking Lebanon is because of the threat posed by Hezbollah.
But get a load of what Itamar Ben-Gavir says.
We must continue destroying houses in southern Lebanon.
Continue pushing residents away.
Continue eliminating Hezbollah.
So in other words, oh yeah, yeah, that's right.
Hezbollah.
I got to mention Hezbollah.
But pushing residents away, in other words, continue ethnically cleansing the Lebanese people from their own homes, their own
land. We intend to continue doing that.
Yair Golan, the left-wing Israeli politician, that doesn't really exist, says this morning,
Israeli citizens are waking up to an agreement between the United States and Iran made over
Israel's head. In one signature stroke, immense military achievements secured with the courage
of our pilots and the blood of our fighters have been erased, while Netanyahu stood on the
sidelines, weak, ill, isolated, and powerless. Wait, what did you guys accomplish in Iran
exactly? Can you please lay that out for us in a detailed manner? Because the United States and Israel
got spanked, bad. Okay, like nothing got erased other than possible inflation for the global
community because of the Strait of Hormuz continuing or remaining closed. But, Jank,
Your thoughts before we go to that fun mashup of media figures in the U.S. freaking out.
Yeah, I mean, look, that's what's amazing about the state of Israel right now.
Yer Golan is supposed to be the left winger, and he's like, we didn't kill enough.
We didn't get enough war, right?
What part of that is left wing?
I mean, that's like the Israeli version of left wing.
So they're like, we didn't take enough territory.
And Ben Kabir always does the confessions.
because he thinks, what are we bothering to lie to these guys for anyway?
I'll say guys.
We have them completely under our, or almost now apparently not completely under our control,
but enough under our control that we can just say it.
Yeah, we're going to take their homes and we're going to take their land,
and this peace deal is going to get in our way.
That's why we love war.
We're an out of control, fascist state that loves war.
and we want to take all your land and take your physical, literal homes.
And if you defend your own home, we'll just call you a terrorist.
And so we're going to talk about the Israelis here in America like Ben Shapiro.
But Shapiro also made it seem like, oh, well, we have to keep the war going because Israel
hasn't gotten enough, and the other side are terrorists.
And he thinks that's like a clever ploy.
We've already gone through this a million times.
You can call them terrorists all you like.
Israel's clearly the bigger terrorists.
There's no question about that.
They kill 100 times the civilians of a worse civilian kill ratio.
But they think, oh, we'll just tell the Americans the dirty Muslims and Christians are the terrorists, and we had to steal their land.
That's played out.
So you can repeat that 100 times over to your remaining three listeners, but it's not gonna work.
Yeah, the Lebanese people have the right to defend themselves. And what emerged in a form of defense was Hezbollah in the 1980s in order to end Israel's occupation of southern Lebanon. And they succeeded in doing that. And Israel has been, you know, trying to fight them and demonize them ever since. But make no mistake about it, Hezbollah wouldn't even exist had it not been for Israeli aggression and attempts at annexing land that doesn't belong to them. Now, with that in mind, let's go
to the chorus of Israel first media figures in the United States who have engaged in simultaneous
meltdowns. Take a look. Israel will not be able to adhere to what would be a suicide pack.
The Israeli people won't put up with it. The prime minister won't put up with it. We should not
accept it either. Because remember, Hezbollah has attacked us. And when Israel is forced to
defend itself, including preemptively against Hezbollah in Lebanon, and remember, they're not at war with
Lebanon. They have a peace deal with Lebanon. They've never been at war with Lebanon. Israel is going
to have to respond to terrorism across its border. As we'll see, if the United States is going to
suddenly become an advocate for the idea that Israel can't defend itself, then this is a giant
L for the United States and for our allies. If you keep sending the signal to a terror backing
regime that chanced death to America, that you want to deal with them so badly that you're going
to tell our allies in the region to stand down, you are giving them an enormous amount
of forward momentum.
And that is a huge mistake.
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of hundreds of billions of dollars.
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nothing else is Rees's. Here's the problem though, Mark Theson. Equating the IRGC with Nazis really
cheapens the severity and the barbarism that was carried out during the Holocaust. But, you know,
Deeson can't help himself. But back to you, Jank. What do you think? Yeah, I like how they've dropped
almost all pretences at being Americans. They're like, this is going to hurt Israel.
America can't do this to Israel.
Wait, I thought you guys cared about America.
And then like they drop in a little thing like, well, America would also be hurt because
Israel would be hurt and you guys are dogs.
It's amazing.
No, I mean, they're totally telling on themselves, right?
I mean, if we did a show where we're like, you have to do this for Turkey, then it's
Turks will hurt Turkey.
America, you better get back into war for Turkey.
People would be like what?
Even like, although Turkey's a NATO country and arguably could make that argument legally
and technically, right?
But it would seem so weird if we demanded that or some other show demanded that America
worked for Nicaragua.
But they do it every single day.
And then they go, oh no, it's okay, we're allowed to because then we'll just throw out
this dual loyalty trope, right?
And you're not allowed to say it, no, I am allowed to say it.
I will tell you right now, I don't even think they have dual loyalty. I think they only have loyalty to Israel.
And by the way, I mean, look, people are probably not going to love that I say this, but I'm going to say it.
If you are an immigrant to this country, right, and you're fortunate enough to be here in the United States,
I just don't think you get to pressure our government to carry out your pet project, right?
Whether you be a Cuban individual in South Florida, whether you be part of the violent faction of the Iranian diaspora that loves watching their home country get bombed to smithereens, I just, you don't get to do that.
Your priority needs to be the United States.
You're here and you should be here because you value and prioritize what's best for this country, not whatever your pet project is in terms of foreign policy for your origin country.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I love Armenia, but America comes first.
I live here, I was born here, I identify as an American.
Look, I want to be clear about that.
So you're Bulgarian American and you love Bulgaria too.
No problem.
That's not a problem at all.
Like, okay, you love Israel for whatever reason.
Of course, whatever, no problem, right?
Everybody gets to still have some feelings for where their ancestors came from.
from, et cetera, right?
Of course.
But if you then say, no, America must serve Bulgaria.
America must give Bulgaria hundreds of billions of dollars.
America must attack, you know, Serbia and Greece on behalf of Bulgaria and spend trillions doing
it.
No, you weirdo, we don't have to do any of those things.
And when you say that we must do those things, it makes us very reasonably conclude that
you care more about Bulgaria than you do about America.
And you could say it's a, well, the Bulgarians don't get to call tropes.
Nobody else gets to call tropes of any sort.
Only Israel has like hundreds of tropes they could release like political landmines and go,
ha ha ha, you're not allowed to criticize us.
But whether it's Bulgaria, Nicaragua, or Israel, the same rules apply.
If you keep demanding that we serve that country instead of this country, well, you're saying,
I don't really care about being an American, I'm just here as a Bulgarian.
an asset to get you to do what my, the country that I actually love wants to do.
Exactly. Now let's end on one final thing that's important for the audience to know about.
While there is a lot of complaints among the Israeli firsters in the U.S., Israeli politicians in Israel,
it's important to understand that there are hardliners in Iran who are also unhappy with the
framework of this memorandum of understanding. So for instance, one Iran,
member of parliament says that the fact that they say we won and America has retreated is a blatant
lie. Okay, Kamran, like, what's going on, bro? Like, what do you mean? Like, the U.S.
and certainly is real. Like, we have been defeated for sure. There's no question about it.
But he continues, oh, no, I'm sorry, this is another, this is the senior commander of the IRGC.
He says, we must ask Mr. Ghalibov and Mr. Arakshi, wasn't closing the strait of Hormuz, one
of our country's main levers in the Ramadan war and wasn't closing the strait, blocking the
enemy's commercial and economic breathing space and bringing it close to suffocation. With what
logical justification and acceptable explanation are these gentlemen going to give up this fateful
lever? I want to be clear, there has been no indication that Iran will give up control of the
they will maintain control of the straight, meaning that they can still utilize it as leverage,
should the United States attack once again. And he further says, they say we will charge service
fees from passing ships. That's it. America and its allies have martyred former Supreme
Leader Ayatollah Ali Kamenei and the Islamic world shed the blood of dozens of nuclear scientists and
high-ranking military commanders, hundreds of innocent people, and oppressed students.
students, they have caused hundreds of billions of dollars in damage.
And now by opening the Strait of Hormuz and charging service fees from passing ships,
we are going to release their economic and commercial bottleneck.
And it's very clear that he's not happy about that.
He would like more pain to come to the United States and the global economy in retaliation
for the attacks in the first place.
Yeah.
Well, look, from their perspective, I kind of get it.
it. I think he's they're wrong strategically as well. Yeah. Not just morally because,
you know, you shouldn't want a war to continue, especially given that your people are going
to be badly hurt as well. But he's saying, look, we've got him so badly cornered that they're,
you know, saying they're shouting mercy, basically. And so why wouldn't we charge a huge toll
through the Strait of Hormuz? And they killed our leader. And they killed so many of
innocent scientists, children, et cetera. Now, we always look at it from the American perspective,
especially because of our national media works for Israel, as like, oh, yeah, we get to kill all
their leaders. But they don't look at it that way. That's like them killing Trump and the entire
cabinet, et cetera, or if Biden was in charge, Biden and Kamala Harris and the entire cabinet,
we wouldn't be like, oh, yeah, whatever. No, we'd be like, no, we want endless war to get justice
for those deaths, let alone if they murdered 160 American school children on purpose with a double tap, right?
Yeah, Jake, do you remember when Israel killed the entirety of the Yemeni parliament?
Do you remember that? It's hard to, I mean, everything gets memory hold, right? But like,
they've carried out insane acts that I know for a fact that we as the United States would not stand for,
If anyone even attempted, even thought of carrying something out, something like that out against us.
Like, it's crazy.
Yeah, so we've kind of gone along with this Israelification of our government.
So both Israel and America now think it's like no big deal to murder other people's leaders.
They're like, oh yeah, we have a unilateral right to kill any world leader we like.
No, we don't.
And so if we do, that country is going to be super pissed and their hardliners are going to want blood.
revenge and justice, right?
And we could say, well, that's not fair.
And if they try to defend themselves, they're terrorists, yeah, we could say that all day
long, but that's not gonna change their mind.
So they wanna keep going with a war, they're like, we're winning, and they're not wrong
about that.
So the reason why I say strategically, they, at the end of the day, the hardliners are not
correct, even within Iran's context, is that, yeah, but if we keep going, then we are
going to bomb the civilian infrastructure of Iran, including.
including the oil fields and the gas fields, and you're not gonna be able to rebuild that
for five to 10 years, a lot more Iranian citizens are gonna die, a lot more of their,
you know, their senior officials are gonna die.
Yeah, maybe you do a lot of damage to Israel, maybe you do a lot of damage to us, but that's
definitely not worth it, especially when America is basically saying, okay, okay, we're gonna
leave, we're gonna leave, we couldn't do the regime change that we wanted, we couldn't
neuter you like we wanted.
So if I was in Iran and I looked at it from only their perspective, I would still say, take
the win.
This is a huge win.
Don't listen to the hardliners.
If you continue the war, you never know when something starts to go wrong.
You might be winning now, but what if things turn around on you and in war easily could?
So not that the Iranians care at all, what I think, but I would urge them to take the deal
and run and not listen to these hardliners.
are almost always going to be wrong. They're hardliners, right? But last thing is,
the only thing that they're a little bit right about is of all their different demands that
I think are too unreasonable. One that they might get their way on is they're going, no, no,
no, no. Even if we open up to Strait of Hormuz, we should not allow any Israeli ship
through, whether it's military trade or any other thing. No, maybe everybody else can get
to go through, but not Israel. And that makes sense.
Yeah, I totally agree with you on that. When we come back from the break, I actually want to talk a little bit about the society in Israel, meaning ordinary civilians, the immense amount of pressure they are putting on government to go even more hardcore in their foreign policy, go max, as they say. And we're also going to hear from one of the main challengers to Netanyahu, Naftali Bennett. He was just interviewed by Pierce Morgan. And some of what he had to do.
to say gives you a sense of how much the politicians there are becoming more and more radicalized.
And pressure from Israel society has a lot to do with that. We'll be right back.
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Yeah, we don't need to go that far, but there's certainly not an ally.
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Look, Jenna, if things hold as they are, I think the way it's gonna go is Ro Khanna
versus the rest of the pro-Israel Democrats.
That's not a bad place for people on our side to be.
So no, no, no, have out of, don't tell them, don't tell them.
No, Buttigieg and the rest.
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That's the way to go.
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One, attention turns from Israel to Cuba.
Two allies could reignite tensions in Lebanon, ruining the deal and give time for
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I'm skeptical.
On number two, we've been discussing it all day.
We're worried about that as well, that Israel's going to be.
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I wouldn't worry about Cuba.
I mean, I think that the American people have had enough of war if Trump starts to talk
about going to Cuba.
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So let's go to our next story. Israel is getting surprising pressure from a group that you might not expect, their own citizens. Anna, help us understand this.
Well, as Trump desperately tries to forge ahead with a potential peace deal with Iran, the fact of the matter is the political pressures on the ground in Israel are basically the antithesis of the political pressure that President Trump is facing.
Here in the US, the war against Iran began as a deeply unpopular war and only continued to get more and more unpopular.
And in the meantime, the latest Pew Research poll released in June shows that 60% of Americans have an unfavorable view toward Israel,
which is important to keep in mind when you see how much the Israeli people want to continue the war against Iran and in fact want to go even further in Lebanon.
So according to a new report by Reuters, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nanyahu faces plunging support in the electorally vital north where Hezbollah rocket fire has been heaviest.
A new poll has shown putting pressure on him to take a more hawkish stance on election as elections loom.
And I should note that attacking Lebanon would be a red line for Iran.
And they've said that they would not only attack Israel in retaliation, but they would refuse.
to engage in a peace deal with the U.S. if Israel remains occupying Lebanon and continues
bobbing Lebanon. The polls show that only 33% of voters in the north say that they would
back Lakoud, which is, of course, the party that Netanyahu is in, in the next election,
down from 35% it gained in the last election in 2022. Support for the wider right-wing
block that makes up Netanyahu's coalition has also fallen yet.
further in the north, the poll showed. Now, the drop in support for Lekud is around three times greater
in the north, home to around a fifth of the electorate than elsewhere in Israel. And around 70% of
the voters surveyed there said they disapproved of the handling of the war in Lebanon more than elsewhere
in Israel. Now, don't get me wrong. They don't disapprove of how the war is carried out in Lebanon
because they think that it's been brutal.
They're against ethnically cleansing southern Lebanon.
No, no, they love all of that.
They don't think the IDF has gone far enough.
Apparently wiping out entire villages,
that doesn't go far enough.
Now remember, there are elections looming
to determine who the next prime minister of Israel will be.
Shockingly, Benjamin Netanyahu wants to get reelected.
It's amazing.
I mean, this is supposed to be a democracy,
and that guy's been in power on and off,
on and off again for like decades.
But one of his challengers is Naftali Bennett.
He was just interviewed by Pierce Morgan.
And I want to give you a taste of what the opposition to the far right prime minister
Benjamin Netanyahu sounds like, take a look at this.
I would say that Iran is very similar to the Soviet Union of the 80s.
It's a very disconnected, corrupt, incompetent regime that doesn't care about its own
people and it's destined to collapse. I believe that soon in Israel, there'll be a new government.
Hopefully I'll lead that new government. And I want to tell the Iranian regime from here,
the regime, I'm going to be your worst nightmare ever. I won't relent until we free your people,
ensure you don't have a nuclear weapon. So you've got no hope. We won't let up on this effort.
So, Jake, I think the juxtaposition between the political pressures on the ground in Israel versus the United States further reinforce the notion that we should not have entered a war alongside an ally, any ally, but in this case, obviously, is real.
Yeah, so I'm going to ask you a question in a second about some of the polling in the north.
But first, two things about what Neftali Bennett said. He said, we're going to free your people,
referring to the Iranian people.
Really, I mean, you're still bothering with this propaganda.
Like only the, like literally the dumbest people in the world think that Israel's trying
to help Iran.
Plus every national media reporter, but you already had them in your back pocket, right?
Like seriously, I mean, what adult, old fool listening to Fox News still believes,
you know, I think Israel has Iran's best interest in mind.
They're doing this for the Iranian people.
I can't even believe that that exists, even in the, like, 98-year-old Fox News audience.
Nobody could be that stupid.
Okay, now, more importantly, you know, everybody says, oh, it's just a Netanyahu government.
Because everybody in America and the media and government love to cover for Israel, right?
Oh, but once Nanyahu's gone, Israel's going to go back to a land of milk and honey and peace and rainbows and unicorns.
No, the guy after him was like, I'll be even worse, even more war.
I mean, you just saw it with your own eyes.
He says, no, we're never gonna stop.
War, war, war, and more war.
And the Israeli population is like, yes, more blood.
Let's be honest, that's what they're saying.
War is blood.
Tons and tons of it.
And Israel says we can't get enough.
No, sorry guys, there's something deeply wrong with the culture in Israel right now.
I'm not saying it can't be fixed.
I'm not saying that it was always like this.
And I'm certainly not saying it's endemic to any particular population or demographic,
right?
But currently, the culture in Israel has become fully fascist.
So there is no amount of war you can promise where they would, that would turn them off.
So like if, I don't know, man, I feel like if Satan himself came back and was like, I will
lead Israel into endless war, we'll destroy and murder all of our Muslim neighbors, he'd be
like, oh, he's at 98% approval.
Because they're going more right wing than that Yahoo, which seemed previously impossible.
So don't tell me that, oh, it's just a temporary thing.
No, the Israeli population right now is voting in favor of fascism and endless war.
So that's a stone cold fact.
And maybe if that doesn't break your heart, there's something wrong with you.
But if you're denying that and you're closing your eyes to it, you're being absurd.
Look at what he said.
And by the way, it's just a tip of the iceberg.
Nifthali Bennett says is for more war, more death.
And you're even, you have Golan, the so called left winger.
We quoted him earlier saying that he thought Nanyahu wasn't, you know,
doing enough war against Iran.
So no, no, the Israeli population is lost at this point.
So look, I mean, you don't have to rely on Jank to tell you this.
You don't even have to rely on this poll.
You can rely on the few sane figures.
who remain in Israel and have been speaking out against the radicalization of the, you know,
broader population in the country. You know, Gideon Levy is speaking out about this almost on a
regular basis now. And he talks about how lonely he feels as an Israeli who is watching,
witnessing all this bloodshed and doesn't agree with it, thinks it's actually not just bad for
the countries that are being attacked by Israel, but bad for Israel itself, which is undeniably
true. It's demonstrably true. And so, look, I don't know how to explain for certain. I think it's a
mix of factors that has led to the society in Israel becoming far more right-wing and pro-war.
I think one of the factors is a lot of the peacnicks have left. I mean, there has been a lot of
people who were previously living in Israel and after October 7th decided to leave, not just over
what Hamas did on October 7th, but the response of Israel.
to October 7th.
And who are those people going to be?
Obviously, they're going to be left-wing peace nick types who don't really want to be associated
with what's going on.
And so what happens is the people who remain end up being the war-loving hardliners who don't
think that this extremely right-wing government in Israel has gone far enough.
Yeah, just real quick on that, Anna.
Look, fascism has nothing to do with religion or race.
It goes around the world.
We've seen it in Europe, we've seen it in Asia, and now seeing it in Israel.
And so there's a couple of toxic factors that go into it.
Extreme victimhood mentality.
The Germans thought that they were crushed after World War I very unfairly, that they were
the victims of financial interests and the other global powers and other Europeans, let alone
the Jews, etc.
And that toxic victimhood then met unchecked power as they rebuilt their military.
And so that's why enabling Israel's worst instincts doesn't.
doesn't help them in both categories, by the way, that you're always the victims and
when you go to take southern Lebanon or 70% of Gaza, you're still the victims, victim, victim,
victim.
We're not helping them by egging them on that way, because that's not remotely true.
They live in a delusional, detached from reality mental state right now.
We need to help them snap out of it as if we were actually their friends and allies,
because they think, well, I mean, of course we had to kill them and take their land, because
were the victims.
But more importantly, we give them on check power.
Endless supply of money, military, oh yeah, yeah.
Genocide?
No problem.
Here's $21 billion to execute a genocide.
That's what Joe Biden did.
Donald Trump, oh, you want to start more wars?
I'll help you start more wars.
I'll give you $13 billion in our entire military to attack Iran twice.
Meanwhile, I look the other ways.
You take southern Lebanon, Western Syria.
When you enable fascism, you get fascism.
And that's what's happened to Israel, and it's partly the fault.
of our government for enabling this kind of out of control behavior.
Yeah, I totally agree.
When a country is treated with immunity after carrying out war crimes,
they're going to think that they can do no wrong.
And that's not just a message that's absorbed by the government of Israel.
It's absorbed by members of Israel's society.
And it's sad to see how much things have been radicalized.
But the facts are the facts, and that's what we're seeing on the ground.
Yeah, last two things here, Anna.
So one is, look, the Israelis think that, and sometimes Jewish Americans think, oh, we're getting picked
down unfairly.
No, no, we're saying fascism can go anywhere.
What the Israelis are saying is, yes, all human beings are susceptible to fascism except us.
We're the only ones who are immune from it, and we're golden and different, and some
Israelis believe superior, right?
And hence, we can, but saying that you're, now most, again, I'll repeat, no Jewish American
I know believes this at all, but are there people in Israel that believe that they are the chosen
people, the Ubermensch?
Yeah, of course, of course.
There's tons of them.
They're religious fundamentalists.
Almost all the settlers believe that God promised them the entire Middle East 3,000 years
ago, and it got me to us, the God is with them, and they are the chosen superior people.
So that's not even all Israelis and certainly very, very few Jews here in America.
But is there a giant contingent that believes that in Israel?
Yes, should we enable that?
No, we shouldn't enable that.
That only makes things worse.
But the last thing is a question for you, Anna.
The polling in the north looks like it's disastrous for Netanyahu, but couldn't that also be
because they're the ones getting having to go into the shelters all the time?
Is there any chance that they're getting tired of war?
Well, I mean, these are the people in the north who are unhappy with the fact, yes, that they keep going into shelters.
There's no question about that.
But that they've gone through all of this and Hezbollah has not been defeated.
In fact, in recent weeks, Hezbollah has actually done a significant amount of damage to the IDF and has killed quite a few IDF soldiers.
And so the frustration is over in their eyes, the sacrifices they've made, even though,
they've gotten really nothing in return. They feel that, you know, Hesbla hasn't been defeated.
They've won nothing over carrying out these, you know, in their eyes, military operations.
The truth is, it's ethnic cleansing of southern Lebanon. And so, you know, they want this to be
over, but they wanted to be over with all the gains that they've been promised.
Yeah. Sorry that you haven't been able to take more territory yet in self-defense. And again,
And the fascists in Germany thought that they needed Leibenzraim, breathing space.
And if you're offended and I'm comparing the two different sets of fascists, that's on you,
that's not on me, that's kind of your problem.
And people saying, well, yeah, it looks exactly like fascism, but you're not allowed to say
that because Israel gets special immunity.
You're not getting what we're saying.
I'm constantly saying that Israel is the only country that can't be criticized, that can't be called fascists, that can't be this or that is what's led to this problem in the first place.
No, we need to treat everyone equally and with justice.
I know that as an Israeli, that must be super painful for you to hear.
But sorry, the rest of humanity is not going to agree to you guys getting different rules than everyone else.
Exactly. Universal standards are supposed to be universal.
All right, we got to take a break, but when we come back for the second hour, we're going to switch gears a little bit and cover an incredibly important story about some of the deliberations within the Trump White House about invoking the Insurrection Act and possibly even suspending habeas corpus.
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So turns out the Trump White House was considering suspending habeas corpus.
Well, not a big deal, it's only the cornerstone of Western civilization.
And there was one person in particular who also wanted to do the Insurrection Act.
and that person is very dangerous.
Let's find out who it is. Anna, what do you got?
Yes, indeed, he is.
In fact, he's a figure within the Trump administration who I've been warning about
since he identified himself in 2024 as a post-liberal Republican.
So I'll give you the details on who that is in just a minute.
But first, this is a pretty extensive report by the New York Times.
Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan co-wrote this piece.
And it does show that on two different occasions, you had Trump administration officials,
Stephen Miller in particular, pushing for the suspension of habeas corpus in order to fast-track
President Trump's deportation policies. Okay, so both ideas, luckily, were the, were turned down,
or at least there were figures within the Trump administration who shockingly were against this,
provided their advice and urged against doing it, and the administration listened.
So let's start with the suspension of habeas corpus.
So it would specifically impact the habeas corpus rights of immigrants who have been detained by ICE and are set for deportation.
Now, as we know, for the immigrants who have been detained by ICE, they have legal recourse that they can tap into in order to challenge their detainment and
possible deportation. That slows down the process of deportations, which is specifically why the
Trump administration, Stephen Miller in particular, floated the idea of suspending it for immigrants,
which is unconstitutional. There is quite a bit of case law, including Supreme Court rulings,
indicating that habeas corpus is not just a right afforded to the American people. It's also a right
afforded to everyone on U.S. soil, including undocumented immigrants. Now, the suspension of habeas corpus,
if carried out, locked up immigrants would be blocked from receiving hearings or even from seeking
court orders to prevent their removal from the country. This was an opportunity for Trump not only
to speed up deportations, but also to assert vastly expanded power over a legal system that was
getting in his way. Oh, that pesky legal system. Oh, liberal democratic values. They're always
getting in my way. Well, that's kind of the point, Trump. And remember, you know, some might say,
well, who cares? Why don't you suspend habeas corpus when it comes to undocumented immigrants who have
been detained by ICE? Well, you're making the assumption that ICE detained the right people or
these individuals are actually in the country illegally, as we have learned, certainly with the case
of Abrago Garcia, sometimes they accidentally detained the wrong people and deport them, right?
So you have to have legal recourse available or afforded to individuals who have been detained,
protecting their rights is just as important as protecting our rights.
Now, disturbingly, the New York Times reported, also reported that in the wake of the wide-scale
protests that were taking place following the fatal shootings of, you know, Alex Prattie,
there was also Renee Good who was shot and killed by ICE in Minnesota.
There were huge protests in response to that.
At that point, there were discussions about invoking the instrument
Act, which would in effect empower Trump to deploy the military against protesters.
Now, this was also something that Stephen Miller had floated to Trump, knowing that Trump was
thinking about doing this in response to BLM protests in his first term.
But what was really interesting about this, Jenk, is the fact that the person really pushing
for it internally was Vice President J.D. Vance.
So a few days following the prety shooting, as these protests were underway,
Vance and Stephen Miller attended their usual White House meeting. Susie Wiles was there.
Vance got to the point. They needed to invoke the Insurrection Act swiftly to crush the unrest in Minnesota.
It would be painful in the short term, he said, but the message it would send that paid agitators could not get away with disrupting ICE operations would make sure no one tried it again.
Now, I want to be clear that claim that the protesters are paid agitators is completely unfounded.
There isn't a shred of evidence to support that claim by Vance.
But this is unsurprising to me, given the fact that, again, Vance has identified himself as a post-liberal Republican,
meaning he doesn't necessarily believe in liberal democratic values.
Now, thankfully, there was the White House counsel, Jank, and then that's David Warrington.
And also the White House staff secretary will sharp.
These two were pushing back against both actions.
And they succeeded.
I'll give you their arguments in just a minute.
But before I do, I'm so curious what you think about what Stephen Miller and J.D.
Vance were trying to do here.
Yeah, well, actually, I'm surprised by some of the people that did the pushback in one.
Stephen Chung, actually, who's like a madman, sided with the correct position for reasons.
We'll explain a little bit.
But Will Sharp's really important and interesting.
He's actually a rare effective lawyer on Trump's side.
And to give you a sense of how right wing he is, he's the one who successfully argued the presidential
immunity case.
The president should basically be above the law.
law.
And he also successfully argued that Donald Trump shouldn't be indicted for stealing the top secrets
and leaving them in a Moralago bathroom.
So the president is allowed to steal any secret he wants out on his way out the White House
door apparently.
So this guy is not a little right wing, he's massively right wing, he's for huge executive
power.
And in fact, one of the cases he made was, if we do this, we'll ironically lose presidential
power, not gain it because the Supreme Court has been so crystal clear that we cannot
take away habeas corpus rights.
And pretty recently too, because of the Guantanamo cases.
And he said, so we're gonna get embarrassed in the courts, we're gonna lose presidential
power.
And I don't know if you guys know this, but this is a cornerstone of Western civilization.
He went back and explained to all of them how this started in England and how our entire
society and values are based on habeas corpus.
So that was a little bit shocking that there's anyone in the White House who actually cares
about things that are true and that are part of our values in the West.
And then he said, look, it's gonna be terrible PR and what are we gonna gain from it?
And that's where Steven Chung apparently joined him.
Now to turn to the bad guys, so no one is surprised that Stephen Miller was leading the
parade of the bad guys.
And he gets into office and immediately he's like let's trash the Constitution, trash Western civilization.
By the way, my secret theory on that is Stephen Miller wants to get rid of habeas corpus
and some others do as well, because at some point they knew that Israel would go so far and
that we did have to round people up here.
And they didn't want them to be able to challenge their detentions because arresting
people on behalf of Israel is maniacal and would not hold up in court.
So that's why he wanted to take the rights away.
But no one's surprised by that.
To your point finally, Anna, on J.D. Vance.
Now, after reading this story, the jury is in.
J.D. Vance is super dangerous.
Don't listen to any garbage about how he's secretly against war, secretly this or that.
No, when no one was looking, he was the guy who pushed most for getting rid of constitutional
protections and American freedom and rights, and to take away the rule of law so that they
can impose some form of authoritarian rule here.
Yeah, absolutely, 100%.
Look, I want to take a break so we can bring Trita Parsley on to give us some of his expertise on this allegedly impending memorandum of an understanding, which paves away for a peace deal with the United States and Iran.
So just stick around for that.
We'll be right back.
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All right, back on TYT, Jen and Anna, with you guys.
Now we've got a great guest for you guys, Anna, take it from here.
All right, joining us to talk about the impending memorandum of understanding between the United
States.
And Iran is Trita Parsi, the co-founder and the executive vice president of the Quincy Institute
for Responsible States.
daycraft. Welcome, Trita. So good to have you. Thank you so much for having you. Really appreciate it.
I want to start off by actually asking you about what happened over the weekend before this big
announcement by both the United States and Iran that both parties have agreed to the framework of the
MOU. It appears there was an effort, as you wrote about on Substack, by the Israelis to sabotage
impending peace. And they did so by crossing one of Iran's red lines, bombing the suburb.
of Beirut. Now, there is some reporting from sources like Jeremy Scahill, for instance,
indicating that Iran was actually able to achieve additional concessions from the U.S.
due to Israel strikes on Beirut. And I'm curious if you know anything about that and what
some of those concessions may have been. I've not been able to confirm that with the U.S.
side, but I've heard it as well from both regional actors as well as from the Iranian side
or people who are talking to the Iranian side on this specific issue.
And I don't find it surprising at all because I think it was quite clear to the United States
that the Iranians were going to respond.
The Iranians had huge difficulty and challenges getting into a consensus position
or close to consensus position to agree to this deal.
It's taken way longer than Trump wanted.
This was his birthday.
They were running out of time.
And the Israelis very deliberately struck the suburbs of Beirut, knowing very well that it wasn't
just Iran's red line. It was America's red line as well. And I thought it was interesting that Trump
not only came out and said this should not have ever happened, but also specifically said,
whatever Hezbollah had done before was nothing and it did not justify this type of an escalation by
Israelis. Because Hezbollah and Israel have been hitting at each other throughout this entire period,
yesterday the day before. But it was southern Lebanon. It was them striking Israeli forces in Lebanon or in
northern Israel, but both of them stayed away from an escalation that could have prompted an attack
by the Israelis on Beirut itself. Nevertheless, the Israelis did so because they wanted to sabotage
the deal and they wanted to sabotage a deal that would put these restrictions on Israel.
And you know, you only have to go and bruise some of the Israeli media today to see the
complete public meltdown that is happening over there or the fact that Trump has now signed
know into this NYU.
So treat dessert.
It's good to see actually them freaking out and panicking over possible peace.
But go ahead, Jank.
Yeah, so Trita, I'm curious about the end game here.
So Iran and America both seem to want to end this war for understandable reasons.
So does the whole world.
Obviously Israel doesn't.
So that's all clear.
And so Israel's basically said, no, we're not going to stop.
We're not going to stop in Lebanon.
And their defense minister even added Syria and Gaza.
That was also clear.
So all that's baked in.
So when we get to a deal on Friday, let's assume that that happens, because it seems like Trump's
pretty motivated to do that.
And then Israel just flat out never listens to the deal and just keeps going and going.
They're saying, oh, it's self-defense, we all know this, right?
It's tired old routine.
Okay, that's where I pause and I go, I'm not sure what happens next, because Iran is, is
insisting that Lebanon is part of the deal. Israel's saying, no, it's not. America is saying,
yes, it is. Okay, and then what happens? So if the Israelis, so I don't know exactly at what
moment in the MOU, it necessitates that it is all of Lebanon and that, you know, the Iranian red
line is moved from Beirut further south. But bottom line is, if the Israelis keep on striking
and go all the way to Beirut, for instance, in the early days, I do not believe that the
Iranians will refrain from attacking.
I think they will strike.
And that puts the ball back into the US's court.
Will the United States enter the war defensively or offensively on the Israeli side?
And I think Trump right now certainly doesn't want that.
And I think what he should do already now is to make it very clear to these Israelis.
If you start a war that we do not want, you should know we will not enter that war on your side.
We will not support you.
We will not fight with you.
We will not shoot down any missiles.
Because it's only the Israelis fully understand that, that they will realize there is no value in starting a war in the hope of dragging the U.S. into that war.
If it's become perfectly clear, the U.S. will not get dragged into that war.
The only reason why they're incentivized to do it right now, because there is a high likelihood that the U.S. will get dragged in.
But if they know that they cannot drag the U.S. into it, then I think they will also refrain from attacking, at least a diminishing.
is the likelihood.
Okay, wait, if you say something important there, sorry, let me follow up on that.
So are you saying Iran's red line is Beirut and not southern Lebanon?
So there is a scenario here where Israel keeps southern Lebanon?
No, I don't think that there's a scenario in which they will stay in southern Lebanon
and continue to strike at the end of the MOU.
I don't know, however, if the language in the agreement, and if it's clear enough so that both sides
have the same interpretation means that it will go into effect right away for all of Lebanon.
Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't. I just don't know for certain.
What we do know right now is that the Iranians treat Beirut as a red line.
But when that red line extends to all of Lebanon is unclear to me, that it will extend to all of Lebanon is clear to me.
It will happen.
I just don't know exactly in what phase that happens or if it is right away when the NYU is signed.
But I don't think the Iranians at all will.
tolerate that the Israelis continue to strike at Lebanon. Of course, we have seen before that there
could have been exchanges of fire, et cetera, that are tolerated in a ceasefire, but nothing very
extensive, I suspect. So it's really interesting because the political pressures on the ground
are very different in Israel versus the United States. The American people want an end to the war,
so Trump feels the political pressure in that regard. Obviously, his donors want something entirely different.
continuation of the war. But that's an ongoing problem we have in the United States, not just in
regard to Iran and questions of war and peace, but on every possible issue, you know, the donors
tend to be at war with what the American people want. But in Israel, it's entirely different.
There seems to be growing radicalization among the Israeli people in regard to wanting more
conflict, more war, more border expansion. And with the impending elections, which could
replace Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister, you can really see the rhetoric of Netanyahu's
challengers getting amped up in terms of calling for more war and a more adversarial relationship
with or against Iran. I want to give you one example and get your reaction to it. So let's actually
go to B2 here. This is Naftali Bennett on Pierce Morgan show today. I would say that Iran is
very similar to the Soviet Union of the 80s. It's a very disconnected, corrupt, incompetent regime
that doesn't care about its own people, and it's destined to collapse. I believe that soon
in Israel, there'll be a new government. Hopefully I'll lead that new government. And I want to
tell the Iranian regime from here, the regime, I'm going to be your worst nightmare ever.
I won't relent until we free your people, ensure you don't have a nuclear weapon.
So you've got no hope.
We won't let up on this effort.
So you can hear from that rhetoric that, you know, I'm going to go further than Netanyahu.
I'm much stronger when it comes to questions of national security.
Is there any, because I have no doubt that they are going to try to sabotage potential peace.
Is there any indication?
I'm looking for a statement, a shred of evidence,
that Trump wouldn't back Israel, should Israel, you know, attack Beirut, Iran responds,
do you really think there's a possibility that Trump won't aid Israel in the middle of that kerfuffle?
I do. I think there is that possibility, whether that is the more likely scenario or not,
is difficult to assess at this point. But I think that Trump is really looking at this as being part of his legacy.
We see these tweets today that no one else could have done peace.
Let me just a parenthesis say something on that.
In the JCPOA, the Obama administration was very careful to never talk about that deal as if it was a peace deal and as if it actually was aimed or would transform U.S.-Iran relations.
They try to sell it solely as a nuclear deal and really stay away from any rhetoric or even an expression of an ambition or hope that it could lead to something bigger than that.
Trump's approach is completely opposite.
They seem to not want to talk about the details of the deal,
but instead talk about how it's going to transform U.S. Iran relations and the entire region.
I actually appreciate that ambition, whether they will back it up with the measures that are needed to make it happen is a different story.
But I do think it would be a waste to strike a deal, but then keep the rest of the enmity in place.
And that enmity then will ensure that in a couple of years will we be back where we are today with another war or another confrontation of some kind.
So I do think that the ambition of wanting to make something bigger out of this is important.
I think Trump thinks that this is part of his legacy and the question then is.
And I think you're absolute right to ask that question.
Will he fight for it?
And will he fight the Israelis for it?
I think there's a likelihood that he would.
And there's a significant likelihood that at the end of the day he may back down.
Many, many people believe that he will back down.
But I think it's worth to see whether it goes that way because I do think that some of the things we've seen so far is
really not helping Netanyahu's case to be frank with you.
It is really, and it's also taking off the blinders of a lot of folks in the administration
and a realization that at the end of the day, to be friends with Israel means that the United
States needs to have this permanent enmity with a large number of states in the region,
not just Iran. And if that is the premise that we want to have that friendship with Israel,
at least we should have a conversation about that. And I think to some extent, at least quietly,
those conversations are not starting to take place.
Yeah, I'm always amazed by that.
Like do they, okay, you know what, that's gonna force me to ask a different question because of that.
Like to me, Israel runs Washington through a system of legalized bribery.
So are there really people who genuinely thought Israel was our ally and that they wanted peace and they were just doing self-defense?
And now they've woken up and realized, oh my God, maybe Israel's not doing self-defense.
Is that a thing that actually exists in Washington?
I don't know how to answer that, Schenck.
I mean, come on.
What do you want me to say to that?
Like, no, like, it was a genuine question.
Like, I can't believe anybody would be that silly.
I mean, I just assumed that they're all.
Look, I got to tell you, there's plenty of people.
I mean, when you watch that clip of Naftali Bennett, it just feels like even a completely different place.
First of all, in the sense of thinking that there's any appetite in the United States for more of this kind amongst the American public.
Secondly, to believe that Israel is some sort of a liberator of the Iranian people.
I mean, he genuinely seemed to believe that a guy is living in a different universe.
And there's plenty of people in Washington are living in a different universe when it comes to this, I think.
Actually, you know what, Trita?
Sorry, Jank.
No, there's, Nathlian Bedd said something else in the context of that interview.
It's a short clip, but I think it's important to play it because it does bolster what Trita is saying here.
Because for Naftali Bennett, what he wants to prevent is Iran having a means to defend themselves.
And you're about to hear and make the case in this clip. Watch.
I believe that America still retains tremendous leverage.
But the jury's out.
We'll see in a period of 60 days that we need to achieve the objectives of taking away the
nuclear uranium stockpile, ensuring that Iran can't build a shield of immunity with thousands
or tens of thousands of ballistic missiles.
This is now the second time he has said on Pierce Morgan's show that we need to make sure
that Iran has no way of defending themselves, right?
They don't have a deterrent, that they don't have a so-called shield of immunity,
which basically open season when it comes to Israeli aggression against Iran.
with no means of Iran being able to defend themselves?
Absolutely. It just means that Israel can do whatever it wants because no one has the ability
to be able to inflict the cost on Israel and limit its maneuverability.
And again, also what he's doing is trying to set forward the type of criteria that Trump then has
to achieve. He has to get rid of the missiles. They're not even part of the discussions to the best
of my knowledge. The Iranians will never, ever, and no rational state would ever.
back down on its missiles, which because it was the only thing that truly ended up being affected
within their defenses together with the drones. The idea that they would give up that when that is
what saved them in these last two wars is completely nonsensical. Yeah. So there's no scenario in which
that will happen. And there's no scenario in which Trump will get a deal. If he goes for that,
now he may try, I doubt it, because I think he's gotten close to some sort of a deal and it's going
to get more realistic. And he also understands that the Israelis, even if he were
to achieve that, which he won't. But even if we were to achieve that, the Israelis would then
throw out something else that he also has to achieve. So the bottom line is, whose interest
are you going to pursue? America's interest or Israel's interest? Israel's interest is to give you a
laundry list of things that are unachievable in order to make sure that you fail and that you
don't get a deal and that we go back to war. Yeah, I'm a little bit surprised to find out that I'm
the most cynical person on this panel. But like, but I don't think that there are almost any
honest people in Washington who think that Israel's are beloved saintly ally. I think they're
all know that Israel's a terrible government that's hell bent on war. They just support them because
they're getting paid to or they have a natural inclination towards Israel and they want America
to serve Israel. The idea that there is like these naive people going around Washington,
oh, I thought they were our allies. I don't know, I just don't believe that at all.
I agree with you. I'm not trying to say that they're all naive. I do think that they live in different universes in which it's not naivete is that you have these insane blinders on. I mean, we've seen that on so many different issues from Ukraine to others in which some people just seem to be immune to reality. No, totally. I mean, I've heard people in Washington say, can you believe Ro Khanna thinks he's going to run for president and be against Israel?
It's 80% of Democratic voters are against Israel. But these morons in Washington are never going to get it. Anyways, it was going to lead up to a question. The question, the question.
is this. So is a hybrid
possible here where
Trump goes, look, look, I got to go.
I'm pulling out the military. I already have a
peace deal. I'm going to get a Nobel Peace Prize
or FIFA Peace Prize
second time, whatever it is, right?
But I understand
poor Israel has to
take more land in the Middle East.
So why don't we give you a gift of
$20 billion, $200 billion,
merge our militaries, etc.
So I'm leaving for now,
but I will give you like
all of our treasure instead.
Unfortunately, Scheng, that is actually a very significant possibility.
That is the blueprint of almost every other deal that has been made in which never,
something is done that is not to the interest of the Israelis or at times other states in the region.
There is this belief that, okay, well, then now you have to compensate them by giving them something
else. Oftentimes it comes at the expense of the poor Palestinians who always draw the
the shortest straw.
You had it incidentally when Hillary Clinton was running in 2016,
in which Jake Sullivan, who was deemed to be her national security advisor,
gave that speech at the Truman Institute saying that because of the JCPOA,
the United States is not going to compensate some of the GCC countries
and give them all kinds of different goodies because the U.S. under Obama had struck a deal
that served U.S. interest and prevented the Iranians from having them.
having a pathway to nuclear bomb. And as a result, we now owe some of these other countries
some compensation, which I found at the time also to be extremely disturbing. But that type of a
mindset is very common. And I don't find it unlikely at all that if Trump tries to insulate
this one issue and he doesn't want the Israelis to sabotage it, he will try to balance it by
giving these Israelis a bunch of other things that will probably create a lot of problems elsewhere.
This just came to my attention reported by Barack Ravid over at Axios.
I'm not sure if you've seen it yet, Trita, but apparently there are some voices within the Trump
administration who are kind of setting the stage for this deal to fail.
CIA director Ratcliffe, for instance, isn't the only skeptic in Trump's top team,
Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth,
have both expressed concerns and raised questions about the deal in internal discussions
while VP Vance and U.S. envoy Steve Whitkoff and Jared Kushner advocated for it,
there's a lot. I have a hard time believing in just that one excerpt from Ravid's article.
But your thoughts on that, and obviously I'm asking you to speculate, but do you think
the pro-war voices within the administration might have enough swears?
way to encourage Trump to renege?
Look, first of all, that does jive with conversations I've had myself.
And it's clear that there is a faction that is in favor of it.
Bitkoff is in favor of it.
JD, of course, is as well.
And there are others that are more skeptical and whether they're skepticism is rooted
because they want to get a better deal or because they want to sabotage this one or
they want to carry some water for Israelis within that debate, unclear to me.
what really is motivating them.
And then there's others also maybe raising some red flags because they're worried that some
of the U.S.'s nuclear demands are unrealistic.
And as a result, they're saying, you know, that needs to be tempered if you actually want
to get a deal.
But the fact that there's going to be a fight within the administration on this issue and
that some people will try to either sabotage it or pin this on JD Vance in order to make
sure that this does not end up becoming a win for him. I suspect that will absolutely happen.
Similar things are happening on the Iranian side. For the last two days, there were demonstrations
outside of the Iranian foreign ministry, calling for the death of the foreign minister and the
parliament speaker because of their role in negotiating this deal. So they have their ultra-hardliners
as well. So I think there's going to be a lot of that. And it does worry me deeply because this is how
in the past, Trump has backtracked on things he already agreed on.
You know, the negotiators come with some mandate, they manage to secure it, comes back,
then it gets criticized by a donor, by Miriam Adelson, by Mark Levine, or someone from within
the administration, and then Trump backtracks on it, and the whole thing falls apart.
That risk is absolutely present in this situation.
Yeah, look, I think all those guys that were named are Miriam's boys, Marco Rubio,
and has taken a tremendous amount of money from the Israeli lobby, from Larry Ellison himself,
into his super PACs. Hegseth wrote on his book about how the IDF should be in the streets of America,
like a total Israeli lunatic. And the CIA has been, in my opinion, from what we can see from the outside,
has been working for the Israelis for a long, long time. So I'm not surprised by any of that.
I always find that to be baked into the equation.
The fact that Trump is even thinking about getting past that is what's interesting and
different here.
But I think we kind of solved that, I'm sure that what you said earlier is right, that if
Trump decides to leave, which I now have at at least 55%, that he's going to compensate
the Israelis because we owe them.
I don't know one ever explains why we owe them and say, okay, okay, I know you guys are going
to get into a war with Iran.
Here's a, I'll rob more tens of billions of dollars from the American taxpayers and give
it to you.
Miriam, please, please, you can continue Miriam's war, but just with our money instead of our
military.
But okay, speaking of the Israeli thugs in this country, so I was banned from the United Kingdom.
The free press wrote a story about how you should be deported, Trita.
So what happened?
What was their argument for deporting you?
It's a hilarious thing to ask and what ultimately became came of it.
Yeah, so first of all, let me, I want to on air thank you guys and particularly Anna for the fantastic monologue that she did in favor in defense of me and against the very principle that this article was based on.
And it's actually part of a, there was a lot of public outcry against this and we had nothing to do with it.
I was on your show the night before. We never even talked about this. I didn't tell you that I thought that this
article was going to come out.
And I think that public outcry had something to do with the fact that the State Department
came out a couple of hours later and denied the story.
And I'm not entirely sure what happened, but I have a theory with some level of corroboration
for.
I do believe that there were elements inside the State Department who wanted to do this.
The Laura Loomers of the world have been tweeting and calling for my deportation for a couple
weeks now, perhaps two months or so. And I think that there were some people inside that thought
that an additional hit piece could be helpful towards pushing the bureaucratic process internally
in the right direction from their standpoint and actually make this happen. But there never was
actually an investigation. They were trying to trigger an investigation. They felt that the
piece would help do so. But it did the opposite because it was this public outcry and there was
also opposition from within the Trump administration. And that's why the very unusual thing
happened in which the State Department came out and denied this and said that there's no plans
to deport me, at least not for now, I think they said in a statement that they sent out to a lot
of media. And it's very unusual for the State Department to do this because they usually
don't comment on these things. I mean, you can imagine how they would spend all of their days
just commenting and denying or collaborating stories that are put out in the media about what is
the word is not happening in specific cases, but they did so. And I think it was precisely because
of the fact that it was squashed and they recognized that, you know, this was not true. And there
have been someone in the State Department an unnamed source of the free press that had claimed this.
I don't say that I think the issue is over with. I think these people who are looking to silence me
and they try to do so for more than 20 years are not going to give up. It's just that they have
now elevated it towards deportation, not just cancellation and trying to make me talk.
toxic. And they will continue. I think they will be relentless. But this specific round,
it seems like it actually backfired on them. Imagine trying to make a guy who's dedicated his
life to pushing for restraint in foreign policy and peace around the world. Imagine trying to demonize
that guy. And that's what's happening with this targeting of you, Trita. It's so ridiculous.
And I'm not at all surprised that there was backlash to Jay Solomon's reporting in the free press.
you make your case on left-wing shows, on right-wing shows.
You've been on Steve Bannon's war room.
You've been on Democracy Now.
Obviously, you come on our show.
And your message is consistent, but it's a message that really does instill fear among
neo-conservatives, Warhawks, and, you know, the pro-Israel crowd.
And so revoking your green card and deporting you because you advocate for peace,
would just be the ultimate, in my opinion, dismantling of what we purport to be liberal democratic
values here in the West.
No, I think that's right.
And I wrote about it on the substack as well, that I think that one of the things that
really is threatening the uniparty war machine is precisely the fact that at the Quincy
Institute, we have tried to build these bridges between the anti-war left and the anti-war
right and we see a lot of commonalities and unfortunately the collaboration often time has been episodic
and we try to establish an institution that would make sure that it's more enduring and systematic
collaboration between the two sides just as much as there is so much collaboration between the
democratic warhawks and the republican warhawks and this is a threat to them i think and as you pointed
out and you know the episode on me with tucker that was taped early this morning just dropped i think
half hour or so ago.
So we are taking our message to both sides.
We actually don't see two sides and we see one side.
It's just that they have differences of opinion on other issues.
But on foreign policy, there's a significant convergence between the left and right on a lot of
things.
And we want to capitalize on that and strengthen that.
And I think you see it very clearly amongst younger demographics in which their foreign
policy outlook tends to differ very little in general, despite the fact that they may have
completely different perspectives on other issues.
And this is absolutely a threat to the war machine because it was very useful for them to have
kind of isolated anti-war people on the left over here and isolated anti-war people on the right
over there and making sure that they wouldn't have the capacity of building these synergies.
And I want to commend you guys because I see you guys have done the same as well.
You were on Tucker's show and Shanku as well, et cetera.
And you broke down a lot of these different barriers.
That's exactly the kind of thing that they fear.
Yeah, 100%.
I don't think that it's a coincidence at all that you and I are both adamantly for peace.
Israel, of course, doesn't want peace.
They want endless war.
And you and I are people who have gone on left and right shows.
Todd Carlson, Sean Ryan, and so many others.
And Marjorie Taylor Greens come on this show, et cetera.
And for Israel, the biggest threat in the world is Americans uniting in favor of peace.
And so that's why there's threats of deporting you banning me from the UK.
But Mark Levine says almost daily that I should be deported, even though I'm a U.S. citizen.
And I would argue that I'm not sure that he is.
But anyway, okay, we've got to go.
Treata, thank you so much.
Thanks so much for having me. I really appreciate it.
No problem.
From the Quincy Institute and everybody check out Trita Parcy's substack as well.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Yep.
All right, guys.
We'll be right back.
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Ronald Fances, hey, T.Y.T. Family and to you, Jank and Anna, a wrestling analogy.
If we don't stop John Cena from winning the game, how can we end Needless Wars?
And you, Anna, you look so beautiful like a butterfly.
Oh, okay, fun. Okay. Thank you.
Okay. And I like to see an analogy. J.D. Pro 2222 writes in Trump,
quote, a ceasefire doesn't actually mean firing stops. He actually did say that.
But that is exactly what it means.
So you're right to bring that up.
As Trump is bragging about the ceasefire box says, I'm calling BS.
I will not be holding my breath.
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all driven by classism are how the financial elite get us to divide and control ourselves
while paying them to do just that.
Billion percent, brother, billion percent.
All of this is the culture wars, identity.
politics is to divide us so that the elites can rule us.
Ricky Rage Dorosio Dorosio writes in on Superchat.
Sinclair Lewis had said, when fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag
and carrying across.
But as in today, it is also wrapped in the Israeli flag as well.
Yeah, definitely.
And M.D. Turner in Oz writes in,
and all in caps, stop all funding to our greatest ally as an ally, but a lie.
I like that turn of phrase.
Jonathan Ayala writes it on Twitch.
Of course, IDF cheerleaders are against peace.
They're against anything moral.
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K-Dragon battling on t.com.
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We'll be back.
All right, back on TYT, Jencanana with you guys.
Let's go to the next story.
No.
And it left.
Let me ask you.
Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?
Ukraine has biological research facilities, which in fact we are now quite concerned Russian troops,
Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of.
So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research
materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.
That was Victoria Newland, who was then the Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs,
back in 2022 under the Biden administration. And people thought, that's outrageous. That's a
conspiracy theory. Is it? Well, outgoing DNI director Tulsi-Jabird just released some classified
intelligence that leads us to believe maybe not a conspiracy theory. Anna, what's the real story?
That's right, Jank. And let me just note that Victoria Newland has been a huge cheerleader for keeping the war in Ukraine going. In fact, she just got her ass handed to her in a debate featuring John Mearsheimer. But I digress. Let's get to what we've learned thanks to former DNI Gabbard, declassifying some documents that show that in fact we have been funding bio labs in Ukraine and across the globe, by the way.
which is incredibly dangerous since they're dealing with gain of function, you know, scientific work.
They're dealing with incredibly dangerous viruses and pathogens.
And, you know, in the middle of a war where our, you know, one of our adversaries seems to have the leg up,
that's an incredibly dangerous situation.
So here's what we know based on what Tulsi Gabbard has basically put out and declassified.
And let me just note, I think this was also her way.
of saying I kind of failed in stopping the war against Iran.
But remember that whole biolab thing?
Well, now I'm delivering the goods.
So she announced in a press release that Gabbert is revealing new evidence of longstanding
US government funding more than 120 bio labs in over 30 countries, which is insane, if you ask me.
These bio labs include labs in Ukraine, which may be at risk of compromise due to the ongoing
Russia-Ukraine war. For example, the intelligence community previously warned that a U.S.-funded
biolab in Ukraine likely housed dangerous pathogens and remained vulnerable to longstanding threats
of Russian attack, seizure, or damage. Many of these U.S. government-funded biolabs are currently
or have previously engaged in research using hazardous and highly contagious pathogens, in some
cases to include dangerous gain of function research with very little visibility or oversight.
And she's totally right about the lack of visibility, the lack of transparency by our own
government in regard to funding these laboratories. Now, what specifically did Tulsi manage
to reveal through declassifying these documents? Well, the documents do allege that the U.S.
helped build and support over 40 bio labs in Ukraine, which included especially dangerous pathogen
certification, EDP, and repository of biological weapons and disease-causing pathogens,
including anthrax, tularemia, tuberculosis, swine fever, new cattle's disease, MERS, SARS,
Marburg, Ebola, Lhasa, and the plague and rickettsia, rickettsia.
So, you know, some of these, including, by the way, Ebola, incredibly, incredibly,
dangerous and okay, yeah, we can fund biological labs in other countries, which is a bad idea
since we don't have full control of foreign countries. So what if there's some sort of
revolution and there's a government we don't like in charge and you have 40 bio labs in a country
that we funded, that we propped up, now those biological weapons are in the hands of a government
that is adversarial to the United States. Like this is so stupid. And besides
which, as we have learned, there could be a lab leak of these dangerous pathogens, and we could
find ourselves with another COVID-19 type pandemic. But what are your thoughts? Yeah, so people
are continuing to call it a conspiracy theory, and I want to separate out two different things here.
The Russians said that this was one of the reasons they invaded. I don't believe that at all.
I think the Russians were going to invade no matter one, partly out of the provocation
of pushing NATO right up to their borders. We've gone through that a million times.
But once he lined up his military there, Putin was going in.
So separate that out.
But I don't understand why people just continue to lie in like demonstrably false ways.
They're like, look at Tulsi Gabbard releasing intelligence that shows that there were
biolabs.
What a stupid conspiracy theory?
What do you mean?
She released the intelligence and it turns out there were biolabs.
How could it still be a conspiracy theory?
I just don't get it.
I don't know, like in Washington, this happens all the time where they, you show them an apple and they're like, no, it's not there. That's a monkey.
You're like, what? Why are you saying things that are empirically untrue?
Well, she even released a list of some of the facilities, biolabs that the United States has funded in Ukraine in particular.
So let's take a look at Graphic 5 here.
This is a screenshot of the declassified document that she released.
And in it, you have very specific bio labs that are named and just how much the United States has bankrolled the research in these labs, the design and construction of these labs.
I mean, there's the Kershon diagnostic laboratory, you know, total cost of the laboratory was over $1.7 million.
But that's just one of the 40 laboratories that the United States has funded in Ukraine.
And look, not to pick on Ukraine only.
I mean, this is an issue in other countries as well.
We are funding and propping up biolabs in foreign countries that, again, we don't have,
and we shouldn't have full control of.
We don't have full control of sovereign countries, nor should we seek control of sovereign
countries.
So allowing for the testing and the gain of function research on incredibly dangerous pathogens,
testing and research on potential biological weapons in a foreign sovereign country is an incredibly
dangerous thing to do.
But we've been doing it.
And there's been so little transparency about it that honestly, I don't begrudge people
for thinking this is crazy.
This sounds like a conspiracy theory because the fact of the matter is our government has
been hiding the ball.
They've been lying to us.
They have not been transparent with us.
Yeah, no, no.
This is like an extra level of Kafka ass here because they're not.
not even denying that it's true. So let me read Mike Levens. This is a Democrat from California.
And he summarizes what a lot of people are saying about this. He says, as far as I can tell,
Tulsi's big secret bio lab bombshell is recycled Kremlin propaganda. These labs were never secret.
Jeez. No, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you're saying ridiculous that that's, that they existed.
and we always knew they existed.
Which one is it?
Did they never exist or we always knew that they existed?
So I don't think they're even trying to make sense.
No, I mean, why would Tulsi need to declassified documents in order for the public to see the evidence that we've been funding bio labs in other countries?
Come on.
Yeah, no, look, let me be, and by the way, somebody even called it a trope.
I'm like, wait, how did that get involved here?
Okay, so this is just crazy.
Right, all right, guys, we have these bio labs that we funded all across the world, and
they do gain a function research.
It's super dangerous, having nothing to do with any other war or any other issue.
It's super dangerous, we don't control those labs, and our government keeps lying to us
about it, and then when we find out, they go, oh, we were always open about it anyway.
No, you weren't.
That's not true at all.
So I'm glad she released that, no matter how much flag she gets for it.
I'm certainly not a Tulsi Gabbard fan and I'm certainly not a fan of the Russian invasion.
But I am a fan of the truth and that it's true that we had biolabs there.
And ironically, now they're calling a conspiracy theory because we always knew there were bio labs that you all denied.
Like I said, I don't think they're even trying to make sense anymore.
Yeah.
All right, that does it for the show.
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