The Young Turks - Word Salad City

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:53 Are we gonna have some fun tonight or what? Probably not. Wrong, tons of it. I'm just kidding. Okay, okay. Thank you, Granite, Casparian. Later we will be, or I will be joined by eight different conservatives back to back to back to back to back to back.
Starting point is 00:01:09 So that's- Oh my God, it's a dream come true for me. Okay, in fact, somebody on social media had a little snipe on that. So we're going to debate whether Donald Trump should be president or not. I'm not debating Donald Trump. Oh, that would not end well for him. So let's see how it ends tonight. So obviously we're live from the Polymarket studio here.
Starting point is 00:01:30 We've got two hours of news about the races we've currently have it, including naughty little girls because the Republicans are weird. Okay, and then at 8 o'clock, all the conservatives come on and I debate them. Nice royal rumble. So I think you guys are going to have a blast tonight, and at the end I'll take some conservative comments and questions as well. All right, Casper, let's get started. Sure, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Kamala Harris had a town hall yesterday. It was pretty awful. I think that she fumbled over and over again. But one particular fumble really caught my attention. So let's get to it. As president, what would you do to ensure not another Palestinian dies due to bombs being funded by U.S. tax dollars? So I will say, and I think this is to your point, far too many innocent Palestinian civilians have been killed. It's unconscionable.
Starting point is 00:02:25 What do you say to voters who are thinking about supporting a third-party candidate or staying on the couch, not voting at all because of this issue? For many people who care about this issue, they also care about bringing down the price of groceries. They also care about our democracy and not having a president of United States who admires dictators and as a fascist. Vice President Kamala Harris is really struggling with an issue that's been haunting her presidential. campaign. And of course, that issue is how the Biden administration has handled the ongoing and ever spreading war in the Middle East. And she keeps fumbling on this issue because she knows that the Democratic base would like a ceasefire, would like Israel to, you know, stop bombing the crap out of Gaza and Lebanon. But she also knows that her donors don't want that,
Starting point is 00:03:20 that there's a disagreement between these two parties that back her. And so as a result, she tries to kind of straddle the issue. And nothing made that clearer than the way she answered the question during the CNN town hall. Now, before I get to how this all went down, Jank, any just quick thoughts on it. Yeah, so it's unconscionable what's happening to the Palestinians. That's why we've given Israel $26 billion to do it. I don't think you fund things that are unconscionable. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:49 So she might not understand what that word means. But wait till you get a load of why the media is criticizing our answer here a little bit later in this story. So as you heard in the video, an undecided voter stands up. She's leaning toward voting for Kamala Harris, but the one thing that's really kind of holding her back is the Israel issue. And so she asks about that. And Harris responded by saying that, you know, now that the leader of Hamas, Yais, Inwar has been killed by Israel. It provides an opportunity to agree to a ceasefire, to return the hostages, and return the Middle East to a more peaceful existence.
Starting point is 00:04:31 But we all know that Israel only intensified its war in Gaza following the death of Yaya Sinwar. And so there, I mean, sure, it opens up an opportunity, but that's an opportunity that the Israeli government very clearly has zero interest in. And so that's when Anderson Cooper jumps in and asks this question. What do you say to voters who are thinking about supporting a third party candidate or staying on the couch, not voting at all because of this issue? Listen, I am not going to deny the strong feelings that people have. I don't know that anyone who has seen the images who would not have strong feelings about what has happened, much less those who have relatives who have. died and been killed and I know people and have talked with people. So I appreciate that. But I also do know that for many people who care about this issue, they also care about
Starting point is 00:05:32 bringing down the price of groceries. They also care about our democracy and not having a president of the United States who admires dictators and as a fascist. They also care about the fact that we need practical common sense solutions from a leader who is willing to work across the aisle on behalf of the American people and not themselves. She also said that, you know, these voters care about protecting reproductive rights as well. And so that might be more of a priority than what's happening with our tax dollars being funneled to a government that's currently slaughtering a ton of children who are trapped in a small strip of land. And look, she might be right about that. But what I thought was interesting, Jank, is that she starts off by just quickly mention. Oh, they want the price of groceries to come down.
Starting point is 00:06:21 You are the vice president right now, Biden is the president. You guys seem to recognize that inflation was an issue, but they did nothing about it. So, okay, I mean, what is the argument to support you because you're allegedly going to make grocery prices go down if you're not doing it right now? Yeah, look, I don't think it's as simple as they didn't do anything about inflation. And I think that- What did they do for inflation? And she did offer price gouging thing. We don't believe she's gonna do it. going to do it. No, I don't believe she's going to do it. And she backtracked for me. But she did,
Starting point is 00:06:51 that was the first thing that she addressed. But I don't want to get sidetracked into that just as she did, right? So look, if you're talking about an average person and you say they might be more worried about gas prices than the Palestinian children being killed, unfortunately, that might be true. But if you're talking about this topic and she just mentioned, oh, I know people whose family members have been killed in the war, right? So are you saying to those people in this context? Now, I know your mom was killed by the Israelis, but remember, gas is slightly higher now. And so, you know, I'm worried about the price of, I know you're worried about the price of bread and nutty bars and quarter pounders as much as the fact that a foreign nation that
Starting point is 00:07:31 we fund killed your mom. No, they're not as worried about that. No, the people whose family members have been killed are, like, could not be more distraught over the fact that they were forced to pay for that killing through our taxes. So I'm gonna get to some of the polling on how the Democratic base feels about this issue, how independence, the swing voters, feel about this issue in just a moment. But you know, before I do, since we're on the topic of inflation, I know you don't want to go off on a side tangent, but it is related to Israel, okay? Explain to me how enabling Israel and the near future war that Israel is gonna drag the
Starting point is 00:08:11 United States in in Iran is somehow going to make inflation better. No, it's going to make it way worse. Way worse. Yeah, because gas prices will skyrocket. Exactly, Iran is a major oil producing country. We go to war with them, obviously that resource is going to be limited, it's going to be constrained, and as a result, there's going to be less supply on the international market. That's going to make gas prices go up.
Starting point is 00:08:36 On the other hand, ExxonMobil will have more money, and so will Raytheon, and they'll both be able to donate to Kamala Harris and Donald Trump and to all the Republicans and all the Democrats and so will A-PAC and so will J Street. Look guys, the in CNN cable news, all of it is theater. They never asked real questions. That question by the end devolved into, are you saying that Trump is more pro-Israel than you? Which sent her into a slight panic, right?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Because you have to be more pro- they're asking you, I'm not gonna give you my vote if you're for the slaughter that Israel is carrying out. By the end, but seven minutes later, they're about, well, who's cheerleading for Israel's wars more? You are Donald Trump. And that was a lot of the media critique. I thought they were going to critique her for not giving a clear answer because this is costing her so much of the polls as Ann is about to show you, right? No, a couple of critiques I read were like, she seemed to be slightly questioning Israel, totally ineffectually. But this is a problem.
Starting point is 00:09:35 This is a problem if someone doesn't want to give all of your money to Israel to slaughter those children. Poor answer, poor answer, she should have cheer led more. You know, the next person came up and asked about anti-Semitism. And then Kamala Harris started talking about, oh yeah, round up all the peace protesters, they're vile, they're anti-Semites, et cetera. So where's the sympathy for Palestinians? Every time she talks about sympathy for Palestinians, it is an utter lie. It's fake.
Starting point is 00:09:59 It's totally fake. It's 100% lie. It's totally phony, and she is a coward, and honestly, she discussed me on this issue beyond belief. So let's get to the data for progress polling, which shows you that, you know, when it comes to young voters, Quite a bit of them would like a ceasefire and are not in favor of what's going on right now in the Middle East. So data for progress tweets that in our survey of voters aged 18 to 29, we found that young voters support imposing an arms embargo on Israel by a plus 26 point margin. Okay, so that's- Can I tell you something interesting in that poll? So in her own base, Democrats, it's plus 41, right?
Starting point is 00:10:59 So if she wants voter turnout, she should definitely say weapons embargo, right? But what's interesting is that the independents are also plus 13. So if you want to win over independence, that's going to bring in a lot of more young independent voters. But Republicans are plus 16 on that issue, young Republicans, even more so than independence. So it's an interesting fact that the young, both on the left and the right, are saying, wait, Why are we funding Israel's disastrous genocidal war? I don't want to fund it. The right wing says and the left wing says and the middle says they all agree.
Starting point is 00:11:37 All the young at least agree overwhelmingly. And everyone in Washington, Kamala Harris and Donald Trump scream in their face. No, I'm more pro-Israel. I will fund them more. Okay, well, then don't cry after you lose an election because you preferred to follow the orders of your donors rather than win the election. Why don't you go get their votes? Look, and my biggest issue with, it's not just Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:12:04 It's just the Democratic Party overall, right? They have no vision for the future. They don't feel like they need to really think anything through. All they hang their hat on, election cycle after election cycle is Trump bad, he's a fascist. I mean, she immediately pivoted to he's a fascist, immediately, immediately. But look. And look, we've been hearing that same message for so many years now. And you need to give people more than Trump is a fascist.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Believe it or not, people aren't buying it, they're just not. Clearly the electorate isn't buying it. It's not a persuasive message. The Democrats are lazy as hell, they don't have a vision for the future. And honestly, if they lose, it is gonna be their fault. She was awful in this town hall. Yeah. It was wall to wall, Trump bad, Trump bad.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I get it, I know Trump bad. What are you? What are you gonna do for us? So look, two things here. Number one, I believe that Trump is close to fascism, and so I'm deeply concerned about that. That's why I would like Kamala Harris to try to win the election instead of going, well, but after I win, how shall I please the donors even more for the next time that I run? And the donors, the Democratic Party needs those donors, donors, donors, donors.
Starting point is 00:13:18 You've got to actually get the voters. Every poll is showing you that if you switch your position on this, not just younger voters, a majority of voters want you to switch your position on this. Then you pick, I saw a poll that she picks up five points in Michigan. I saw another poll, she picks up four points nationally if she's for a weapons embargo. But right, but 10 days before an election, she's like, nope, I won't do it. I don't want those votes. I don't want those votes.
Starting point is 00:13:45 The money's more important to me. Well, if you're dumb and you say, I don't care, I'm so corrupt. just going to take the donor money, don't come crying later, and you know what they're going to do. They're going to blame the voters. They're going to vote for us. It's their fault. Oh, young black men wouldn't vote for us. Latinos wouldn't vote for us. Hey, did you ever examine why? Because, and that at least the point number two, guys. So, oh, first, sorry, just to finish that point, even if you're concerned as I am about fascism here, well, what's Israel doing? They're shooting five-year-olds in the head. They're at record rate, according to the American doctors there. They're
Starting point is 00:14:22 killing journalists at a record rate. They're killing human rights workers at a record rate. They're doing ethnic cleansing. They've got the Jabalya death march going on right now. It is a despotic. That is a fascist state that you're supporting that has been a brutalizing Palestinians for 57 straight years in an oppressive occupation. And you're saying we have to support Israel because Donald Trump is fascist. Netanyahu's a 10,000. times bigger proven fascist and of course you can't say that on television because then they'll say are you not sufficiently pro-Israel everybody in corporate media yell at them yell at him and the only thing I'll give credit to Kamala Harris for I just don't think the Biden White
Starting point is 00:15:02 House is really concerned about fascism they're aiding and abetting what's going on right now in the Middle East and they really have no leg to stand on like that's the thing that I can't stomach that they present themselves as you know the beacons of democracy The people who are really going out of their way to protect the people, how are they protecting the people? They're literally taking resources from the people in order to fund a government that is full to the brim with fascist politicians and literal terrorists. People who are considered terrorists by their own country. And you want to sit here and tell us, we need to support you because there is a threat of fascism in our country. Come on.
Starting point is 00:15:43 The only caveat I was going to give is that if Kamala Harris says that she would do a weapons embargo, her issue isn't with the American people. The American people in every poll indicate that they're in favor of that. And she would pick up a bunch of votes. Her issue is with mainstream media, because mainstream media will take her head off. Ten days before an election, they'll all scream that she's an anti-Semite, even though she's married to a Jewish guy. They'll all say that she's the betrayed our greatest ally and she's the worst person alive. How dare she defy the great, great Israel?
Starting point is 00:16:14 And so she's worried not just about the donors, but that corporate media would level her 10 days before an election. So if you think corporate media wouldn't take her head off if she said she's stopping funding of Israel right now, you don't know anything about American politics or American media. Yeah, of course they would. Media has basically done wall-to-wall coverage trying to take Donald Trump's head off, and it hasn't worked. And the reason why it hasn't worked is because he presents himself, whether you like him or not, as someone who's far more authentic than a traditional establishment politician. So imagine having someone on the Democratic side who stands for the right issues,
Starting point is 00:16:53 who wants to fight for the right things, and is actually authentic and doesn't come across as an empty suit that will say whatever the donors tell her to say. And that's the way Kamala Harris comes across. So that leads to the second point. Look, guys, we told you this plenty of times, but now it's becoming so stark because at this point, Donald Trump has a slight lead. We're running out of runway here. There's almost no time left. So what the Democrats needed to do, and what she can still do, although, again, running out of time, is give a positive view of what you're going to do.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Not the joy thing that she did, which was not bad as a strategy in the beginning, but like this, but you can't, the whole campaign can't be, hey, everybody, I'm full of joy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what are you going to do with that joy? So are you going to give us paid family leave so moms can take 12 weeks off? No, you didn't even propose that. Why not? Well, Mark Cuban letter? But of course, the business community doesn't want it, right? Are you going to fight for hire minimum wage? How come we drop that like a rock?
Starting point is 00:17:51 How about the public option? You dropped all of these things, all these things that are intensely popular. Anti-war is very popular, but so are all of those economically populist proposals. And she's not talking about any of them because the donors will not allow it. So then who's going to be at fault if Kamala Harris loses? It is inarguable. Other than Kamala Harris, which is personal responsibility, there's no question, and democratic leadership, they're almost always wrong, they'll always take the wrong track, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:18:22 But mainly the donors. The donors insisted that she take deeply, deeply unpopular positions for their benefit. And then if she loses, then you can't cry, okay? And I'm glad you wasted all of your money because you ruined our chance of beating Donald Trump by insisting on your greed and your infinite, avarice, and your disdain for the American people. All right. So we're not the only ones who were critical of the way Kamala Harris handled herself during this town hall. Throughout the entire thing, she refused to answer questions directly, lots of word salad action going on. And that's not just me saying it.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Here's David Axelrod. When she doesn't want to answer a question, her habit is to kind of go to Word Salad City. And she did that on a couple of answers. One was on Israel. Anderson asked a direct question, would you be stronger on Israel than Trump? And there was a seven-minute answer, but none of it related to the question he was asking. And so, you know, on certain questions like that. So Axelrod is correct.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And this is in reference to something that Jank had mentioned earlier in this segment. And it was the question of, okay, well, who's more loyal to Israel? Is it you or is it Donald Trump? And here's how that played out. Do you believe Donald Trump is anti-Semitic? I believe Donald Trump is a danger to the well-being and security of America. He has said that he, he's casting himself as a protector of Israel. Do you believe you would be more pro-Israel than Donald Trump?
Starting point is 00:19:59 I believe that Donald Trump is dangerous. I believe that when you have a president of the United States who has said to his generals, who work for him because he is commander-in-chief, these conversations, I assume, many of them took place in the Oval Office. And if the president of the United States, the commander-in-chief is saying to his generals, in essence, why can't you be more like Hitler's generals, Anderson? So that's what Axarad was referring to, immediately pivoted to Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. Didn't, couldn't even answer, couldn't answer the question about, you know, whether, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:41 Trump would be a more supportive president toward Israel. And by the way, I want to be clear about something. I don't agree with Donald Trump on this issue. Donald Trump says things that are incredibly unhinged. I am concerned about the U.S. being dragged into war with Iran. I am concerned about what Israel is going to do in Iran and how that's going to have an impact on the global economy. And if you're wondering what I'm referring to, let's just hear a word from Donald Trump on this issue real quick before I go to Jake. We're going to take care of Israel and they know that. Bibi called me yesterday, called me the day before. Now we have a very good relationship. And I have to say they've done,
Starting point is 00:21:19 fortunately, they didn't listen to Biden because if they listened to Biden, they'd right now be waiting for a bomb to drop on them. And they did their own work. They did not listen. They couldn't listen because what he was asking. In fact, just the other day, they said to him, are you okay with what they're doing? Well, I don't want them to attack the nuclear and I don't want them to attack the oil. I said, that's sort of the opposite. If you go and take the exact opposite for 40 years of Biden's foreign policy, you would be one of the greatest. Just take the opposite.
Starting point is 00:21:52 You'd be one of the greatest in the history of foreign policy. Now understand that Donald Trump isn't saying I would do the opposite of Joe Biden and I would actually implement an arms embargo toward Israel. No, no, no. He's saying I wouldn't even, you know, tweak Israel vocally or rhetorically, which is the only thing Biden has done. Biden doesn't want Israel to bomb the oil fields. And for obvious reasons, we all know that it's going to lead to massive inflation in a global economic crisis. But anyway, Jank, both options are total garbage when it comes to this issue. Total garbage.
Starting point is 00:22:27 So Netanyahu and the right wing in Israel has made it very clear they want Donald Trump to win. And so if you're thinking, oh, Kamala Harris is bad on this issue, you're 100% right. But if you think Trump is better, you're 100% wrong. He is promising a thousand times over that he's going to be worse on this issue. And by the way, if you're a right winger and you're anti-war, your candidate isn't. So I know you're never going to believe that until he makes you pay for all of Israel's war. and he starts sending in troops there to help Israel because his donors told him to. But that's his current position.
Starting point is 00:23:01 So has anybody asked Donald Trump, will you cut funding to Israel? Because you keep saying you're going to cut funding to Ukraine and because, oh, America first. So are you going to cut funding to Israel? The answer is absolutely not. He'll probably send them more money. So yeah, we're damned if we do, damned if we don't. But I want to go back to Anderson Cooper's framing, right? So when we're on this topic, he says, so wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Are you saying that Donald Trump is more pro-Israel? Who's more pro-Israel? You have to prove, wait a minute. What do you mean pro-Israel? That doesn't make any sense. If you opposed America's war against Iraq, that didn't mean you were anti-American. And if you supported, it didn't mean you were pro-American. You were agreeing or disagreeing with a policy of the current government of America.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Same thing in Israel. It's not, if you're questioning what Israel is doing, it doesn't mean you hate Israel or you want to destroy Israel. What it means is, hey, I've wanted Israel to be a safe and beautiful place, but I'm not in favor of the right wing government that is driving Israel off a cliff right now. My position is more pro-Israel than any of their positions, because I would get Israel back on the right track to independent states, so you could finally rest easy. Peace deal work with Egypt, it could work with the Palestinians, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:24:14 So this framing of being pro-war, being pro-Israel, is corporate media, cheerleading for war while pretending that they're helping an ally. And so, so look, at the end of the day, her answer was horrific and then, but people criticize her saying she wasn't sufficiently ass kissing enough of Israel. So our system is just sick and then you tell, oh wow, do I have an alternative? You turn to Trump and he's like, why haven't we started to war already? Let's bomb around, come on, let's bomb them, bomb them. By the way, I'm anti-war.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Maga, this is your guy. Come get your boy. All right. Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll talk about Bill Maher's theory as to why Kamala Harris is not performing as well as she did in the very beginning of her, you know, replacing Biden in this race. He has an interesting theory that I initially rejected, but he might have a point. We'll be right back. All right back on TYT, Jenkins, Casper here. Gabby Mathis, Jesse, and Box, all gifted five memberships on YouTube. Because they're American heroes, we know, you know, the American people know it. Box then chipped in and said, my cat's name is Casper, the friendly white cat. Okay, so there's two Casper's in the building.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Screen says, Jay, trying to look fierce. He's just such a teddy bear. He is actually. Me? Yeah, you are. I'm aggressive. All of your aggression comes out on the show, but total cream puff. All right, let's see. All right, what's next?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Okay, so this was a fascinating exchange that I disagreed with at first, but then I thought about it. And I'm curious what you all think. Let's get to it. Kamala's big, I think, challenge here to win over the undecided voters is to convince them that she's not part of what they suspect she might be sort of a stealth version of the worst excesses of the left. Phil Marr believes that Kamala Harris has a woke problem, and that is the main reason why she is currently paralyzed in the polling. That is the main reason why Donald Trump has been able to close her lead nationally according to the polls. Now, let's hear him out. What exactly is he citing here as the reason for her so-called woke problem? There's a coalition of Trump voters. People who really like him, they certainly are those.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And then there's people who don't necessarily like him that much, but they still think he's less crazy than stuff that strikes them as aggressively. anti-common sense that takes place on the left and that's why they keep running that ad about sex changes in prison and every football game could you get every foot that's what I see every football game I see it could you get more
Starting point is 00:27:26 third rail words into one set than sex change operations tax payer funded yeah it's illegal prison it rings every single bag they they just want her to say
Starting point is 00:27:41 look I get this about my, the blue team. And it's on my to do. By the way, it's very easy to say. Yeah, I said that in 2019. I was in a competitive thing. Now, she did say, I think she said this was the law under Trump too. He didn't change it. But it's very easy to say, I don't believe that anymore. So Scarborough, by the way, is absolutely correct. I don't say that often on this show, but he is correct in that it was the policy or the law when Donald Trump was in office. He didn't make any effort to change it. And now he is basically spending tens of millions of dollars running campaign ads targeting Kamala Harris for her questionnaire answer toward the ACLU when she was running in
Starting point is 00:28:24 the Democratic primary in 2020. They asked her if she supported the policy and she said that she did. And so now he's using that against her. And you know, you can call him out for never doing anything about the policy. But the fact remains that it does appear that to some extent his attack against her is making some difference. So I want to just quickly go into how much money is being spent on this. Let's go to Graphic 2 here. Over the first half of October, former President Donald Trump and his allies poured more than $21 million into television ads attacking Vice President Kamala Harris over her past support of certain rights for transgender people, a message they have spread during nationally televised NFL games, college football broadcasts, and in battleground
Starting point is 00:29:09 states. So the Trump campaign is betting any voters still like choosing between the two candidates will be swayed by this issue. In fact, the ads outpaced nearly every other topic Republicans have put in advertisements trying to sway the public during a critical closing stretch of the race, ahead of crime, inflation, and immigration, and behind only taxation. And I want to go to the ad so you guys know what we're talking about. I actually had never seen the ad. I don't think it's targeted toward people in California, maybe, but this is what the ad is. Kamala supports taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners. Surgery.
Starting point is 00:29:50 For prisoners. For prisoners. Every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access. It's hard to believe, but it's true. Even the liberal media was shocked. Kamala supports taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners and illegal aliens. Every transgender inmate would have. have access.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Kamala's for they then. President Trump is for you. I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message. So not only is the Trump campaign banking on this ad being effective and making a difference with swing voters, it's essentially what Bill Maher believes is going to work or make a difference as well. And I'm curious what you think, Jank. Yeah, so there's two very different parts of this story.
Starting point is 00:30:33 So first, on the issue of are these ads working? And is this the right way to go for the Republicans, Democrats, etc. That I agree with Bill Moore and Joe Scarborough on. And yes, I just vomited a little bit in my mouth. But guys, we told you, and we got into huge fights on the left over this, that it was not going to play well. And a lot of people on the left claim, no, we don't know anything. This is going to poll great.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And the American people want it, love it. and that rights for transgender inmates getting surgery, etc. And if you didn't believe that, you are a Nazi and the American people don't agree with you, he's spending more money on this ad than almost any other ad because why they have internal polling showing it's working fantastic. It is driving away voters from Democrats at record numbers. So you can say, hey, I love the policy anyway, and we should fight for it in the long run. No problem, no problem.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I don't agree with it, but we can have that debate, no problem, okay? But if you live in a bubble where you think this helps Kamala Harris, you've lost touch with reality. That's just not in this world. I mean, you're just flat out wrong. I don't know if they're still sticking with it. My guess is they'll pivot. They'll go, oh, well, we knew it was going to. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:31:53 You all said it would help her. You all said it, okay? You were all dead wrong about the politics of it. Now they'll pivot to, oh, but we're the most moral pure people on earth. And if she loses, that's even better for trans people. No, it would be terrible for trans people if she loses. Trump's a nightmare for them. That's exactly what we're warning you about,
Starting point is 00:32:11 because it's going to lead to worse situation for trans people, not a better situation. Right, well, the moral argument has been the argument that they've been making. In fact, I remember that fight and the main point was, well, it's the right thing to do who cares about the electoral consequences. And it's easy to say that when the election isn't right around the corner. But now the election is around the corner. And Kamala Harris was asked about it, by the way. Brett Bear asked in the context of the Fox News interview that she did with him.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And she said, quote, I think he spent $20 million on those ads trying to create a sense of fear in the voters because he actually has no plan in this election that is about focusing on the needs of the American people, which is an interesting thing to say considering the fact that most of her campaign is now focused on fear mongering about Donald Trump and how he's a fascist. That's fair, but that's a fine answer. You know, she's pivoting over. That's not an answer, like she didn't answer for it.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I'm saying as a political strategy, pivot away from it because, because here's now let's get to the other end of it. So Bill Maher and Scarborough and all those establishment guys. put a whole bunch of policies in the woke basket and then say it's all terrible, right? So all the progressive policies, oh, so this one, defund the police, et cetera. But then they throw in Medicare for all and, you know, higher wages and all these things. And so wait a minute, is that's not, I mean, that doesn't make any sense at all. So I don't even know what Bill Maher thinks is core democratic policies.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Because whenever you have a progressive who fights with those core democratic policies like more health care, better wages, Bill Maher and Joe Scarborough crap all over them. Well, I don't know about Joe Scarborough, but when it comes to Bill Maher, he broke away from the culture of the current Democratic Party over these social issues in particular. And he's gotten some grief for it. No, you're right, Anna, you're right. Verbaly, rhetorically, he does that. There's one other issue that he broke away on or whatever. But when it comes to politicians who are in favor, like Bernie 26, forget 2020,
Starting point is 00:34:36 2016, pure economic populist. You don't know, he wasn't woke. There was none of that stuff. All there was was universal health care, higher minimum wage, et cetera. And Bill Marr was like, no, no, not Bernie Sanders. Woke, woke, woke, no, I hate him, I hate him. Joe Scarborough, hate him. Chris Matthews, he's going to execute people in the streets.
Starting point is 00:34:54 That was in 2020, et cetera. So you guys are all liars. You don't want any of those policies. So if you do, will show me one Democrat you've ever supported who actually fought for any of those policies. No, you always support the Democrat who fights against those policies. And the reason that they're not having a real honest critique of Kamala Harris is not because Kamala Harris is too woke or too anti-woke. It's because she's a cheesy establishment politician who goes where the wind is blowing. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:22 So before when she thought being progressive was hot, she said, yeah, I'm the most progressive. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to defund everything and I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that. right? And now that it's not popular, she's like, oh, hey, I'm not going to do that. No way, right? So Bill, which Kamala Harris are you in favor of? Because you can't be in favor of both of them, right? But you also won't be honest with your audience and say she's a cheesy standard establishment politician who doesn't have any actual opinions or only opinions are what the donors say and what the polling says,
Starting point is 00:35:52 oh, right, Bill's one of her donors. Oh, which leads me to the third issue. He also puts in the woke basket, Palestine. Yeah, no, definitely. Right. Oh yeah, those peace protest or kids, they don't know anything. If they knew everything, they would know that Israel is the greatest country on earth. And I'm not going to vote for any of those woke politicians who care about human beings
Starting point is 00:36:15 and Palestinian children being starved to death. Who cares about them? Only woke people care. No, I know, I get it. Look, Bill Maher, I don't agree with him on that issue at all, right? But, you know, do you think that he is correct on this particular issue? Yes, I do. And the reason why I wasn't buying it at first is because I knew from the beginning that
Starting point is 00:36:36 Kamala Harris didn't actually mean anything that she said when she was running in the Democratic primary in 2020. Yeah, Anna, so you're, it's a great question and what we're doing here is nuance. And I know that's, if you're an established media, that's gonna blow you away. You're not gonna understand, wait, black or white, Republican. or Democrat, woke or not woke, might it depend on the issue? Isn't that funny that I have to clarify that? So, yeah, I'm not for the, if you call them woke policies to say defund the police and
Starting point is 00:37:09 give undocumented immigrants any kind of surgery they want, it's optional or whatever, however you want to phrase it. No, I don't think those are helpful politically, right? But if you say, hey, let's let Israel genocide the Palestinians. Well, first of all, that's not popular. Right. The polling indicates that the American people are definitely against that. Especially Democrats, independents, young voters.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah, the people that are going to show up to vote in order to get, et cetera. And besides, it's the immoral position. So you're just taking a bunch of disparate policies and throwing them in a woke basket, and it's all the ones you don't want to happen. So I don't agree with your dumb way of characterizing the issues. You go issue by issue, and if you're right, I'll say you're right. Where's the harm in that, right? Because, guys, it sounds personal because we get.
Starting point is 00:37:54 it animated, but it isn't personal. I don't care about Bill Maher or Joe Scarborough or Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. I'm not going to change my policy positions based on personalities. But these guys, they all know each other. So they're like, oh, I like how much better. And they're just lying. They're lying and pretending that all these things are in the same bucket when they're not. All right. When we come back, we'll talk a little bit about a network of Republican billionaires funding and effort to make it more difficult for your vote to actually be counted or your registration to go through if you're looking to register to vote. So that and more coming up, don't miss it.
Starting point is 00:38:51 All right, back on TYT, Jankana with you guys, but also Ultrasonic AMP, Dave Gustavo, Chuck O and Jack Retcher. And Jack, thanks for signing up the premium level. That allowed us to keep prices exactly where they are through all of inflation. So you guys that sign up at the higher levels, we love you for it. And so do the rest of our members. And I'm just going to read two from YouTube members. Fatuous Fatua wrote in voted for Kamala today in the swing state of Georgia. All right.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Voting has begun, guys. So if you're a person who's going to do mail-in voting or early voting, find out what the rules are in your state, make sure you get out there and vote. And then Bruce City, Mike, with a great point. Imagine voting against the trans issue, that isn't even an issue. Yeah, that's true. Like, that's not an issue at all. Trump and Kamala Harris at this point agree on it. Nobody's proposing it. Nobody's passing it. It's a complete non-issue. And yet, there's a whole bunch of people who are like, oh, I got to vote against Kamala Harris for a position she doesn't have.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I mean, I think it's been this standing policy, like it's all, it's already been enacted. It was enacted under Trump's administration. Yeah, yeah, there's no debate over it. And it, and it existed during Trump. I mean, voting on that issue is insanity. This is so pathetic. This whole election is so utterly pathetic. It really is.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Okay. But it could be insanity and people still do it. So you have to be cognizant of it. Yeah, exactly. That's why they're spending all that money on the ad because it does move people, even though of course it shouldn't, of course it shouldn't. Okay, Anna. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:25 A network of Republican billionaires have funneled more than $140 million into dozens of so-called election integrity groups that are aiming to contest voter registrations and make it more difficult for people to cast their ballots in this upcoming presidential election. Now, this was a giant piece written by the Wall Street Journal, not a liberal outlet or publication. And what they found was that the billionaires behind this effort are actually big money donors to Donald Trump. So here are some of them. Groups linked to the U-lines, the Wisconsin shipping billionaires, have donated more than $34 million since 2020 to organizations that do election integrity work. And election integrity work is a bit of a euphemism here.
Starting point is 00:41:14 So let's just be clear about that. A foundation funded by donors, including David Green, the Hobby Lobby billionaire, has given $7 million to nonprofits in a network of groups operated by conservative judicial activist Leonard Leo gave more than $4.7 million. So these are some of the figures, the billionaires behind this. You probably recognize their names if you're politically engaged, because again, they're the same individuals who have been financially supporting Donald Trump. Now, so is, so what exactly are these groups trying to do? What, what are they trying to accomplish here? Well, the Wall Street
Starting point is 00:41:51 Journal sums up their goals as follows. The groups have been scrutinizing voter registrations on an industrial scale and working to slow down the vote count, bury local election officials in paperwork and lawsuits and elect like-minded politicians at the state and local levels who will support efforts to contest the vote. And much of the Wall Street Journal's report also focuses on conservative partnership institute, which runs the election integrity network. And again, I do election integrity in air quotes because, I mean, look, I got to give the right wing some credit on how good they are at branding because, you know, you hear something
Starting point is 00:42:34 like defund the police and it turns people off. Whereas with Republicans, they like to use euphemisms. that make people think, oh, this is a great organization, right? Focus on the family. I like families, election integrity network. That sounds great, I like election integrity. Anyway, but the head of the election integrity network is Clita Mitchell, a longtime Republican election lawyer who participated in the January 2021 phone call in
Starting point is 00:43:03 which Trump pressed Georgia's secretary of state to find some 12,000 votes for him. so he could flip the state of Georgia from supporting Biden in the election to supporting Trump. Yeah, so let me tell you the real reason behind this. So are there true believers who really think, oh my God, Trump won the election last time, and I'm not going to let them cheat him this time, et cetera. I would say not only are they are they actual true believers, but almost all of the grassroots Trump supporters that are involved in this, I believe, do really believe it, right?
Starting point is 00:43:38 And I think even some of the leaders like Patrick Byrne, the overstock CEO guy believes it, right? And so, and he spent a lot of money doing that. And so I think that they, you know, the supporters got lied to through right wing media, et cetera, who've now had to pay now combined almost billions and damages for lying on air about people. So, but I think that there is some that are actually unbalanced like Byrne who believe it. But that's not the interesting part, guys. The interesting part is the Republican leaders who don't believe that there was any voter fraud, don't believe that Donald Trump won. So why are they doing this?
Starting point is 00:44:15 Their real reason is twofold and it's super interesting. Number one is delay the vote on the day of, especially in Democratic areas. So if Democrats get frustrated and there's longer lines, some of them will go home. That'll give you a slight advantage, right? And so if you, for example, in Georgia, what they did was they asked for a hand count before they actually give you the results. Well, that'll slow the results down massively. I love hand recounts, I got no problem with them. I want to verify the vote, right?
Starting point is 00:44:51 But you do them afterwards. That makes sense. But if you slow it down, you get a second advantage because usually, and this happened certainly in 2020, Trump has day of voters advantage. Democrats have mail-in voting advantage. So the day of ones usually get announced, and Trump says, I'm leading, I'm leading. And then the ones that are not coming in from the Democratic areas, et cetera, it gives them time and space to do their marketing, saying, Trump's already won, Trump won, Trump won, no matter who won, right? There's a second issue here, they're going, oh, and this one's even bigger. Oh, we are so concerned about voter fraud.
Starting point is 00:45:30 That is why we had to take voters off the rolls in Democratic areas. Well, did you do it evenly in the whole state and Republican areas in Democratic areas? If you're concerned about voter fraud generally? No, I just did it in Democratic areas because you're not concerned. You are the voter fraud. This entire project, its point is to try to get as little Democrats to vote as possible, get more Republicans to vote, and third thing is put a whole bunch of people at the stations. They're allowed to do that.
Starting point is 00:45:59 They should verify the vote. Both sides, Republicans and Democrats do have poll watchers, and they should, right? But these guys are saying, let's bring in an army of extra people sometimes, as Trump says, sometimes cops. Why? Do bully and intimidate people in Democratic areas? They're not bringing them to the Republican areas. They're only bringing them to Democratic areas and having them watch over them. Oh, yeah, which are you going to vote, huh?
Starting point is 00:46:20 Who are you? Do you have your paper talk? So they could bully as many people out of the polls as they can. And that is the voter fraud. You know, but I'm noticing something else that I don't know if this is connected to it. I don't know if there is an intention here to make people question how long it might take to count the votes. But I'm already seeing on social media, you know, when it comes to some of the states who have noted that it's going to take them a little longer to count the votes and you're not going to find out if, you know, either candidate won that state on the day of the election, you know, right wing voters are getting riled up about that. They think that there's some sort of foul play.
Starting point is 00:46:57 So if you have this group that's going to make counting the votes take even longer, isn't that going to lead to even more, you know, suspicions among the Republican base? Because they want those suspicions. And look, I was going to say, to be fair to the Republicans, this is a hilarious way of being fair to them, but it's true. Remember, this is exactly how they stole the 2000 election. Bush hadn't actually won Florida, when the press later did a recount of Florida, it turns out Gore had won, not just the popular vote, the electorate college, right? But they pretended that Bush won, Fox News led that parade. It was a brilliant move by Roger Ailes at the time who were on Fox News.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Remember, they sent the Brooks Brothers mafia mob to Miami and a bunch of Republican consultants pretend to be real concerned citizens. and they started beating, and then they were all dressed as prepees and stuff. And then people identified, oh, that's this Republican consultant, that Republican consultant. So they've been doing this for now a quarter of a century, delay the vote, intimidate democratic areas, and try to steal an election like they did in 2000. So they're like, look, it worked before, why not? If it's in close elections, we steal them. And then while we pretend that we're stopping this deal.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I bet they had a great laugh over that in Republican leadership circles, as they're drinking their, you know, martinis, I will pretend we're stopping this deal. And then we're against election manipulation. And then we'll bully and threaten and alienate Democratic voters and make sure they don't do it. And then by the way, the joke is on the American people, but also even their own supporters who actually believe it and who gets super mad. millions of them still think that Trump won the last election.
Starting point is 00:48:50 They've been furious ever since. Are the Republican leaders worried about that? No, because they think that those are pawns to gain power. A lot of people do vote by mail, and Trump has changed his messaging on voting by mail, which is good because he realized, oh, wait, it's actually kneecapping me. I'm kneecapping myself by discouraging people to vote by mail. So, you know, there's record early votes, for instance, in states like Georgia. And for those who are concerned about this story, and you should be.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I mean, it is concerning. You don't want voters to feel intimidated by poll watchers or things like that. But as Jenk alluded to earlier in the segment, the Harris campaign is going to deploy their own poll watchers. Let's go to the very last graphic here. The Harris campaign expects to feel tens of thousands to act as poll watchers on election day and count observers. as well as to staff hotlines dispensing legal and voter protection expertise. So it looks like the Kamala Harris campaign is prepared for at least something. Yeah, that's good to know.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yeah, I guess. Let's see what happens. So by the way, should we strike back and should we bully Republicans out of voting in Republican areas? No, I'm not saying that. Hold on, no, no, no, I'm just asking it as a hypothetical. And my answer to that is, of course not. Like, I, the thing is I'm such a sap that I actually believe in democracy, and I think if the Republicans win, they should be in charge.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And I value you the democracy part more than the Democrats winning part, right? I don't often see that from the Republican side. A lot of them have Searcy Lannister's attitude of powerous power. Okay, well, if, you know, if you don't believe in democracy, just don't up to it. And that leads me to the last point, which is Clita Mitchell that Anna mentioned earlier. He's a huge part of this, making sure that there's no voter fraud. He was on the call with Donald Trump when they were trying to intimidate Georgia Republicans into finding 12,000 votes for Donald Trump. Well, that's kind of the king of voter fraud when you say, I lost.
Starting point is 00:51:01 So go pretend to find 12,000 votes for me, which is exactly the number of votes I need to swing this. election. So the guy who was helping to orchestrate the largest voter fraud in our lifetime is pretending to be concerned about voter fraud. Exactly. Yes. All right, we got to take a break. When we come back for the second hour, we'll talk about Mitch McConnell's utter disdain for Donald Trump and his delusions about what the Republican base actually wants. It's a fun story for us, not a fun story for Mitch McConnell. We'll be right back. I'm going to be. I'm going to be.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I don't know.

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