The Young Turks - Zionists Go Bananas - October 26, 2026

Episode Date: October 27, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Now watch his drive. Bega! Kurtz, Jake Hogan and Kasparin with you guys. So a huge show ahead for you. The ad from Rebellion Pack that honestly I helped to create, which we'll explain in a minute, has gone viral, arguably supernova viral, and it has gotten into the emotions and the feelings of radical Zionists, which we thoroughly enjoy. We'll talk about that in just a minute.
Starting point is 00:01:34 But also part of the reason that Rebellion Pact made an ad like that is because Israel is driving us further into a major conflict. CNN has a report about that, we'll explain. But also Netanyahu's lost his mind so much, the IDF said no to him. And there's a huge drama in Israel about whether the military should listen to Netanyahu or not. We'll get into that. Speaking of international news, Lula wins in Brazil. a wonderful and shocking victory. So we'll tell you what happened there.
Starting point is 00:02:07 And then finally, a couple of domestic stories later in the rundown. AOC, as she positions herself, is catching some criticism from the left for how she's being very friendly with the establishment. And that's now being noted, which is interesting. And then Bill Maher and Donald Trump have a feud where they both lose. And that makes us very happy. All right, Caspar, how you doing? I am doing absolutely excellent.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Okay, lots of great news today, including the tears that we're about to sip in the first story. Indeed, so let's get started. We get all the sandwich stuff for the kids lunch. I don't like turkey anymore. Yeah, I know. What about the bananas? Yeah, I got them too. But honey.
Starting point is 00:02:54 What? You're gonna have to put those eggs back. They don't like eggs anymore? No, they like eggs. But we have to sit that $7 aside for killing Palestinians. What? I mean, don't we give Israel $4 billion a year anyways? Yeah, and now we're giving them another $26 billion. All right, that is an ad by Rebellion Pack.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I am the founder of that pack. I have interesting updates on this story, including a new pack that is apparently ready to join the battle. and at a significant number. And the origin story of that ad. And of course the reaction, the furious reaction from Washington. And Anna has the whole story. I sure do.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Now, that ad might seem familiar to you. What's new is how much attention it's getting from the very people we hate the most. But before we get to their whining, before we get to their crying, and enjoy every minute of it, here's the rest of the ad. And now we're giving them another $26 billion. Do you know how much that is per American taxpayer? No. It's like $161 per person.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Apparently it's costing us a lot of money to drop bombs on Gaza. It's terrible. Yeah. I don't think of universal health care too? Yeah, they do. We're paying for that too probably. Might as well put the bananas back. Why the fuck do we have to pay for all of this?
Starting point is 00:04:25 Don't cuss at me. Why does Mike Rogers care so much about what Israelis want and so little about what you want? Mike Rogers is for they, them. Abdul and Sayed is for you. All right, well, before we get to all of the Zionists whining about this, Shank, take it away. Yeah, so first of all, breaking news a little bit before the show, another pack has decided that They might put up to six figures into running that ad in Michigan because they loved it so much. And we love to hear that.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And we updated the ad with the new number because before, the only thing that was confirmed was about $224,000 going to Mike Rogers from the Israeli lobby. We always suspect that there was far more from dark money. But that's okay, we don't have to trace that anymore because APEC has just put in 9000 million dollars into that race. And of course, A-PAC itself is also crying about our ad. They believe that only pro-Israel ads should exist in America and no ads criticizing Israel should ever be allowed.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Of course, it's anti-Semitic, we'll talk about that a minute. But I love that the cavalry is beginning to arrive. Honestly guys, Revulian Pag is Pact we created. People are always asking who's behind me, there's no one behind me other than the American people and you guys donate to it five bucks, ten bucks at a time, RebellionPack.org slash donate. If you want to do that, we'll put the link below too. And so we've raised a good deal of money over the weekend because of how many times it's been viewed.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And on X, on my account alone, that's $5 million, let alone all the other copies that are now surrounding the internet, let alone Instagram and all the other social media posts. But, and not a lot of Washington is supportive of it, of course. But it's good to see another pack coming in saying, hell yeah, we love this. One of the best ads we've ever seen. We'd love to get spreaded out more. And of course, your donations make a big difference in doing that. And then finally, if you want to know the origin story before we get to the critique, yes,
Starting point is 00:06:40 that ad was in my protest candidacy against Joe Biden to push him out of the race, which, by the way, we did. Was that me? It was this tiny part of it. But I'm really glad we did the right thing. And we pointed out the problems that Joe Biden had well before anybody else did. But in the context of that campaign, it didn't get a lot of attention because the media thought, you know, that's, you know, a protest candidate, whatever other reasons and didn't cover it much.
Starting point is 00:07:06 But it's interesting, Anna, that how much it has resonated today. So when we took the bananas ad portion of it, and that's what we call it behind the scenes, the bananas ad. And we added the they, them part. That's when it took off like wildfire in regards to the Michigan. Senate race and I've got to say I'm super proud that we'll be able to put together an ad that a lot of people online are saying one of the best political ads they've ever seen. Look, adding the they, them angle to it was genius. But aside from that, it was going to catch wildfire because this is a Senate race that's garnering a lot of attention, especially because
Starting point is 00:07:44 because of the endless, ongoing, disgusting, Muslim, hating, you know, nonsense that we've been seeing directed at Abdul al-Sayed, very similar to what we saw in the lead-up to Zoran Mamdani winning as mayor in New York City. It looks like Zionists have learned absolutely nothing about it. People seem to be turned off by the hyper-focus on Abdulah-Said's identity, as opposed to the policies that he's bringing to the table. And I think voters have gotten a lot smarter about the types of games that are being played. So it doesn't really surprise me that this went super mega viral, especially as it's attached to this particular Senate race. Now let's talk about the Zionists who immediately made this out to be the most anti-Semitic ad ever, even though
Starting point is 00:08:30 it is demonstrably true. The claims being made demonstrably true. We are currently in a war against Iran, not because Iran posed a threat to the United States, not due to the fact that Iran had any type of military capability to even strike the United States, but specifically because Israel demanded that we fight their war for them. And what did that lead to? The closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a spike in oil prices, a shortage of energy, including diesel, destruction of refineries. And then on top of that, remember, J.P. Morgan Chase put out analysis about a month ago, indicating that the first quarter of 2027 will include a global food crisis thanks to this war. A third of the world's fertilizer transits through the Strait of Hormuz. So when there are disruptions in that strait,
Starting point is 00:09:22 obviously there's going to be farmers across the globe who are having trouble getting their hands on that fertilizer. Or if they do get their hands on the fertilizer, it's far more expensive than what they would previously pay. So poorer countries will have food shortages, Whereas here in the United States, we are already seeing a spike in grocery prices. With that context in mind, let's go to the meltdown, starting with Mark Levin, my personal favorite. He had a lengthy post on X. We're just going to give you an excerpt of it where he says, when you watch this campaign ad, listen to the DSA agenda. Watch the Democrat Party embrace and exploit virtually every evil under its big tent,
Starting point is 00:10:00 even promote the disassembling of our constitution, rabid anti-Semitism, and the violent Marxist Islamist movements, and realize their aim is the fundamental destruction of Americanism and our republic at any cost, then you'll realize the Democrat Party hates America and always has hated America. I mean, I would venture to say that a good sign, a clear sign of an individual or group of people who hate America and Americans is to use our service members as cannon fodder and our American taxpayers as a personal ATM for a foreign country. The founder of the Foundation for Defense of Democracy's FD, which is a Zionist group that lobbies on behalf of Israel. This guy is upset as well. His name is Clifford May. He says, next up from El-Said,
Starting point is 00:10:48 perhaps an ad saying that Germans lost the First World War because Jews stabbed them in the back. And look, I just, the exploitation of the Holocaust in order to carry out a new Holocaust is pretty effing disgusting. And the fact that they realize that we don't see exactly what's going on is hilarious to me. They think we're so stupid. We know what's going on. Stop treating us like we're stupid. Amy Siskind, one of my favorites who's constantly smearing people as anti-Semites online, says this is disgusting, blatant anti-Semitism. By the way, the ad is about a foreign country.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Nowhere in the ad do we talk about Jewish people. Nowhere in the ad do we focus on identity. The ad is about the actions of a foreign country and our government forcing us to pay for it. Again, she says this is a disgusting blatant anti-Semitism. The vitriol of Jank and his nephew are going to cost us the seat. El-Sayed should disavow this ad. The other thing I just want to quickly mention before I go to more of the posts here, Jank, is I just cannot get past the Senate.
Starting point is 00:11:54 of entitlement. I got to be honest with you guys, it disgusts me regardless of who engages in it. So when Zelensky, for instance, like, looks down his nose at American taxpayers and demands more money, like it pisses me off. It just does. It pisses me off regardless of who the foreign leader is. And the same is true, of course, of the Israelis. But what's different is that here in the United States, you have their agents essentially telling the American people, you better shut your mouth and you better provide the money. You better pay up and you better support it and you better like it. And if you don't, we're going to come after you and we're going to smear you as anti-Semites. But here's the problem, Jank. They have now labeled pretty much everyone in the country in anti-Semite if they have had
Starting point is 00:12:37 even the smallest, the most minuscule criticism toward Israel. Again, a foreign country that is not indicative of the global Jewish population. Breonna Wu, who long ago worked at Rebellion Pact, but no more. She says, I didn't have anything to do with the producing of this ad. We know Brianna. You love the fascist. I've not worked with rebellion for years. I would have quit as executive director rather than produce this. It is hurtful for people to think I would. No one thinks you did, Brianna.
Starting point is 00:13:05 And I'm glad that she finally posted something about how she's no longer with Rebellion Pack. I don't know how I could possibly stand with Israel and Jews more than I do. I'm not Jewish, blah, blah, blah. She just gets on her knees and does everything that she can to pleasure Israel. I don't know. I guess she thinks that that's how she finally found a group of people who accept her, even though they don't. Jonathan Greenblatt, you want to know what desperate looks like.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Blameing the price of bananas on Israel. Consider this PAC ad, just another example of scapegoating the Jewish state. At least we can thank them for a case study on anti-Semitism. But before I go to you, Jank, and before we talk about some of the people who absolutely love the ad, they seem to have a problem with how the ad notes that we're giving Israel money to kill Palestinians. They have a problem with that. So now we turn to a blonde woman in Israel with an American accent telling you exactly what Israelis are all about. Take a look.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I think it's very important to settle an annex of Gaza. I don't think this war has ever gone to end unless we kick out the Arabs from there. It's our land. I think a lot of viewers in the UK and outside of Israel might be pretty shocked to hear what you just said. In terms of settling Gaza in particular. I mean, Israel's a Jewish state. We should take it because God commanded us to take it. In that scenario, where would the Palestinians go?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Honestly, to any other Arab country, I don't really care. Except Jordan and Lebanon and Syria, those are ours. Or we'll kill them. They better leave, except they can't go to Jordan, Syria, or Lebanon. That belongs to us. Or will kill them. We'll kill them. She just says it with a straight face happily,
Starting point is 00:14:50 proudly, this is who they are. So don't tell us that this isn't the truth when it's being rubbed in our freaking faces day in and day out. Jenk back to you. Yeah, so I want to go through a lot of facts here because I'm pretty much positive that mainstream media will begin their lies imminently about this. So let's preempt some of that. So first of all, in regards to that woman that we just showed you,
Starting point is 00:15:17 Is she an aberration because you can find random person in any country saying outrageous things. So like is she part of the like clan version in Israel? Is it like tiny little minor? No, 82% of voters in Israel say that they that they should remove all the Palestinians from Gaza. That is ethnic cleansing. Eight out of 10 voters in Israel say we should ethnically cleanse the Gazans. But then when you run an ad like this, the Israel supporters here in America go, I don't feel safe. Wait, you're in favor of Israel killing 22,000 children and 82% of Israelis would like to ethnically
Starting point is 00:15:57 cleanse Gaza with our money, but you don't feel safe? It is entitlement complex on steroids. No, you have to give me all of your money for me to kill Palestinians, otherwise I don't feel perfectly safe. The only way I feel perfectly safe is with your money in my pocket and your bombs on top of Palestinian children. So tell me any part of that is untrue, because none of it is untrue. Let's keep going.
Starting point is 00:16:24 We've given Israel $352 billion lifetime. So what do you mean? We're not giving them money. Of course we're giving them money. And the ad doesn't say that the price of eggs and bananas are higher because of Israel is saying we have to take $161 per taxpayer out of our pockets and give it to Israel in our contributions to Israel, our free money to Israel. Those are all stone cold facts, no one disputes the facts.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And so you literally have less money in your pocket because some of your taxes were taken out, and this is just recently. I'm not talking about the $352 billion. The $161 per person is since Trump has taken office the second time around. I mean, you've been giving them thousands of dollars throughout your life. And now when some people go, well, you know what, I'm not sure that's a great way to use my money as a US taxpayer, they're like anti-Semi. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:17:19 You better take out your wallet and give more money to Israel, otherwise you're an anti-Semite. Now that is a deeply obnoxious and bigoted thing to say and also factually incorrect. So our gas prices higher, our prices higher because of the war in Iran, which is what we stated near the ad, near the end of that. Absolutely, that's also indisputable. You've now seen them rise significantly. Diesel's up 70%. So there is nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Nothing factually incorrect about the ad, it is 100% correct. That is why none of the facts in the ad are attacked at all by the critics. Instead, what they say is no one should be allowed to talk about it because we are canceling them now by using the word anti-Semitism. Well, that doesn't fly anymore. So it flies with mainstream media and they're all in a huff over it. I don't dare they criticize Israel in inappropriate ways that we have said that are not allowed in US media while we pretend to have free speech.
Starting point is 00:18:23 But you're canceled, you're canceled, everybody is canceled. But wait a minute, over 60% of Americans now have an unfavorable view of Israel and would not like to send them money anymore. Are we all canceled? Is our majority of Americans canceled? Are we all anti-Semites? And basically Israel's supporters, including almost all of national media, say yes. Yes, yes, you're all anti-Semites.
Starting point is 00:18:48 If you dare say that Israel is taking your money, which is absolutely true, causing wars, absolutely true. New York Times reported on it. Marco Rubio said it right in front of our eyes. We went into war because Israel told us to, and that's the tip of the iceberg, let alone the hundreds of millions of dollars of the Israeli lobby has given Congress, the hundreds of millions it's given to Donald Trump, and to all of our politicians, these are all incontrovertible, empirical objective facts.
Starting point is 00:19:15 That is why they never want to talk about the facts. Instead, they want to cancel the entire conversation by smearing people as anti-Semis. Finally that gets us to the facts about Jewish Americans. 63% of Jewish Americans are opposed to the current Israeli government. 61% of them believe Israel has committed war crimes. But people in media, and not just the people that Anna quoted, New York Post, of course, There's a huge article about it, anti-Semite, and semi, almost all of them soon will.
Starting point is 00:19:47 You'll see it with your own eyes. And what they say is, yes, I mean, of course they never acknowledge this, but if you ask them, yes, that polling is correct. The majority, clear, clear majority of Jewish Americans believe that Israel's committed war crimes. But we're all going to lie in unison and pretend you're offending all Jews
Starting point is 00:20:08 when in reality you're offending radical Zionists. Well, I want to offend radical Zionists. They're committing a genocide and they're making us pay for it. Offending them is the least of our problems. But Anna, one last thing about that, think about it. They're like, oh, are all of you offended? Not just Muslim Americans, not just Palestinians or Arabs, but all good decent moral Americans. The great majority of the country now, you're all offended that we're taking your money
Starting point is 00:20:35 and using it to commit a genocide and murdering 22,000 kids? Well, we don't care that you're offended. You're just lowly Americans. But a Zionist, a radical Zionist is offended. Oh my God, we all have to panic. This hat is very unacceptable. You're American people. Tut, tut, tut.
Starting point is 00:20:51 How dare you vote for Abdullah al-Said? He doesn't even bow to Israel like Mike Rogers. So they say, unless you have Mike Rogers' position, which is literally he said he supports Israel unconditionally. By the way, he never made a pledge to support Michigan unconditionally. Only Israel. And they say, unless you bow your head to that, you're an anti-Semite, and that's the only trick this pony has. So I don't think it's going to work. I think the American people and the voters of Michigan are absolutely sick of it.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And they're going to love voting for a real American who is vowed to support America unconditionally. Look, for the longest time, this country was full to the brim of cowards or people who are so self-interested that they're worried about losing out on career opportunities, or whatever by speaking out and telling the truth about what's going on between this relationship with the United States and Israel. But there's a new game in town, okay? And it's full of people who are sick of this, who actually care about our country more than their personal financial gain. And so these tactics of smearing people and lying to us about what's actually going on, it doesn't work anymore. And so I want to just give you a few examples of individuals who love the ad. there are a lot more online.
Starting point is 00:22:08 These are just a few that I found just upon a quick search. Cubs World on X says Israel first. Mike Rogers' career is cooked after this Abdul Al-Said ad. This is brilliant. Jeff Young, who was running for Congress in Kentucky, says, excellent campaign ad. Every American should be blaming Israel. And the last two presidents, genocide Joe Biden and Donald genocide Trump. This is, I believe, a guy who's in the Republican Party, by the way.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Ted Raal says this. Whatever you think of this ad, the fact that anyone could spin it as anti-Semitic is gobsmacking. The only way you can do that is to equate the nation state of Israel with all Jews everywhere, which is insane. It is insane, but Zionists like to use Jewish individuals, Jewish people as human shields. Of course, we've learned that. And it's also kind of amazing how on one hand, you can take an ad that just recites the truth about the price of everything going up thanks to a war that we started on behalf of Israel. But when it comes to open, overt, bigot, bigot, and hatred toward Muslims, that's totally fine. None of the people whining about this ad had anything to say about Trump's disgusting, despicable statements over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And he was at a rally before 4,000 people. This is in Port Huron, Huron. And he says, if Abdul and the Democrats win, they will open the floodgates and invite hordes of jihadists to our shores, creating a nightmare of violence and terror until you cannot even have a Christmas. I think a lot of Americans are not going to have a Christmas because they literally cannot afford it, given the price of everything shooting up, on behalf of Israel's war against Iran, which, by the way, is going to ramp up either right before the midterms or potentially after. Yeah, and a couple of things about that.
Starting point is 00:24:00 You know, you read the Mark Levine talking about Marxist Islamists and other critic said, you know, these are Islamic Nazis or Nazi Islamists, something along those lines. So those are over the top bigoted comments about Muslims. And then they complain about bigotry. And I think they genuinely don't see it because they don't view Muslims as humans. They're so deeply bigoted that they're like what bigotry? No, of course, I'm allowed to call Muslims Nazis in mass. And I'm allowed to pretend that there's some sort of Marxist and Islamist alliance,
Starting point is 00:24:36 which is just absolute fantasy. But I'm doing Israeli propaganda to get you to hate all Muslims. But I perceive your critique of a foreign government is anti-Semitic. So you're the real problem with bigotry. And as usual, most of the media goes, absolutely, sir. Of course, sir, the real problem is all the anti-Semitic Americans. And you're allowed to say anything you want about Muslims. We'll never write about that.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Never, ever smear them to no end. But my God, if a radical scientist like Mark Levine, while calling Muslims Nazis or Marxists is offended. Boy, God, our heart breaks for him, and it's super important. And it's also important to note that neither rebellion pack or anyone else that has praised this ad of any note has ever. said anything about Jewish people. As I told you, the stats are actually on our side that most Jewish Americans agree with
Starting point is 00:25:29 us that Israel is committed to war crimes. So why would we criticize people agreeing with us? It doesn't mean, because we're not irrational bigots like the other side. They assume we hate Muslims so much, you must hate Jews as much as we do. No, we don't. Our top allies are Jewish Americans, and we're super proud that we work together as a family and as a country to fight against this genocide. So literally no one other than Israel supporters say this is about Jewish people.
Starting point is 00:25:57 In fact, they're trying to hide behind Jewish people saying, now look, look, don't let them criticize Israel. Let's all say that the Jews did it. Now you sound like anti-Semites. Why are you lying about the majority of Jews in this country? It's sickening. They didn't sign up for your genocide. Stop lying about them, you anti-Semites. Finally, there's some Democrats that are pretending that like, oh God, you know, you know, you
Starting point is 00:26:22 We were so ready to support Abdullah Said. I mean, he's terrible, you know, the way that he's disavowed Israel, et cetera. We're super worried about it. I know, but I barely got there within an inch. I was gonna give up all of my previous ideology and not care about any of the policies in America that I pretended to care about my entire life, but because he's a Muslim, I was gonna vote against them. But you know, I changed my mind and I was gonna vote for him, but now you did this mean
Starting point is 00:26:49 ad. Now my feelings are hurt again. And I think you heard Abdul al-Aid, did we? Did we? No, those are the people trying to pretend to be on your side and tell you, don't ever run anything critical of Israel. You're not allowed to say this, you're not allowed to say that, you better run a neutered campaign that doesn't go to your strengths because, oh, we are considering voting for you.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Yeah, it's nothing but lies and tricks and propaganda. And I, on election night, by the way, which we're of course going to cover here, and let's see what happens. I've got this ready, okay, for A-Pact tears. A-PAC did write against this. Oh, claiming, oh, anti-semin. There's the biggest anti-Semites in the country are A-PAC, pretending that they speak for all Jews as they cheerlead for war crimes.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And if you want to know who wrote the ad, I did. Look, I work out, I try to eat, right? I take my supplements, I do all the things that Helcomaniacs do. Everybody remember that? But here's the question that drives me nuts. Is any of it actually working? That's a fair question when it comes to me. But that's why I'm excited about the true age test from true diagnostic.
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Starting point is 00:28:53 That's true diagnostic.com code TYT for 20% off. All right. Let's take a break. When we come back, we have a little more on this particular Senate race with Mike Rogers and his pretty disastrous interview on Sunday. So we'll give you some clips of that and more. We'll be right back. Let's go to you do TYT members on tyot.com.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Virginia and South Carolina says we're finally starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. We did a TYT family. Change happens slowly then all at once. EME-E-TIB 2 says, oh damn, I'm so glad it's going viral, can't be more to the point than that ad. That's why all the radical Zionists in Washington are livid about it. They're like, no, that ad will work. Cancel it, cancel it, cancel it, just call it anti-Symitment for the billionth time.
Starting point is 00:29:53 That'll work. Everybody will print it. I'm so curious, New York Times asked me for quotes. I can't wait to see what they write about it. I'll tell you ahead of time, I'll be absolutely floored, shocked. I'll fall out of my seat if they write a fair article and they give all the numbers and facts and they say it is objectively true. My guess is they won't even bother with the facts.
Starting point is 00:30:15 They'll just smear, smear, smear, smear, but hey, they could prove me wrong and that'd be beautiful. I'd be happy to see that. ETO 1790 says, having Zionists lose their minds is a wonderful thing to witness. Degos says people don't like funding death. Who would have thought it? In Washington, they don't think that. They're like, of course everybody wants to fund killing children, do anti-Semites? They all believe it, they're in a cult.
Starting point is 00:30:36 They're totally lost their minds and they have no idea they've lost their minds. Asmos Prophases, I didn't hear Jewish people mentioned one, so I don't know what the F they're talking about. Actually, to be fair, they're the only ones mentioning Jewish people. And they're like, you know, no, no, you got to blame all Jews. No, we're not going to blame all Jews, that's for you to do, because you're an anti-Semis All right, Bert Bignetti on Twitch says, Jank is the Pac-Man. Emil Woods, 1980 says, Jank Lula.
Starting point is 00:31:05 NARC says, my sister who's Maga says she doesn't think is voting in the midterms, mainly all the money we sent to Israel. That's exactly right. A lot of Trump orders are not going to vote in the midterms because of exactly this, which I love. All right, back on T.YT, Jank and Anna with you guys, but also A.C. fan, Chris from Cyprus, Jacob 110 and Wake Up 182, all of them joined through tytt.com slash join. Really appreciate anybody doing that. And if you want to contribute to that ad, we showed you in the first segment,
Starting point is 00:31:53 rebellionpack.org slash donate. All right, now let's go to our next story. Let me just give some context to the 2012 letter that you're talking about. Egyptians were rising up against a brutal dictatorship, Al-Said. As you said, he joined that letter, which supported the protesters against Egypt. Dipater, not the Muslim Brotherhood as a group, but this is what you said, Congressman, in 2012. I want to put up what you said at the time.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Gosh. Do I think there are moderate Muslim Brotherhood individuals we are going to have to reach out to and talk to? Yes, but we are going to have to watch it carefully. Love it. That is shocking that Kristen Welker held Mike Rogers accountable for that quote. But we are very happy to have it and happy to have it. give her credit for that. Wait till you see the other fact of connecting Mike Rogers to the Muslim
Starting point is 00:32:47 Brotherhood. It's a bit shocking. And but, you know, I wish they'd gotten to this months ago. Super glad they're doing it. Anna's got the whole story. Jenk, I believe journalism happened over at NBC. I know. It's weird. Kind of shocking. Now look, Rogers tried and failed to come back from getting exposed here. But I want to show you what I mean, and then we'll get to what his past support of the Muslim Brotherhood looked like. Do you acknowledge that at the time in 2012, you were willing to work with some moderate members, as you said, of the Muslim Brotherhood? That is so much out of time. I wish you would have done this for Abdul El-Said. That would have been a great interview. But what you're doing now is trying to twist this thing to defend your position for letting him lie to you in the American public and the citizens of him.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And here, let me tell you what that was about. I'm happy to talk to you about what that was about. So what happened was we had relationships where Israel and Egypt had relationships in their intelligence services that the Muslim Brotherhood was trying to undo. And what that would have meant is more violence in the region. So as Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, I said, we're going to have to find a way to try to not sever that relationship, which they did, by the way. And so, listen, there are, when you talk about the Muslim Brotherhood,
Starting point is 00:34:09 as an ideology. It's a political group. Five Muslim countries have banned the Muslim Brotherhood because they're so extreme. And Abdul al-Sayed not only has family relations, which he lied about, he not only had his own letter that he said supporting them, including purging the press. I don't know about you, but you should probably be concerned about that. Oh, this is so delicious. It's mostly delicious because Mike Rogers is an empty suit. He's a puppet for Israel. He just is. And all he has to run on is negative campaigning against his opponent. And that negative campaigning has been nothing but pointing at Abdul al-Sayed, mentioning that he's Muslim, and then accusing him of supporting things he's never supported simply because of his Muslim
Starting point is 00:34:58 identity. And then it turns out that the very thing that he's accusing Abdul al-Syed of is what he has done in the past. So here's the truth. Okay, here's the truth reported by the Detroit Metro Times. In June of 2012, after Muslim Brotherhood politician Muhammad Morsi won Egypt's presidential election, Rogers told Reuters that the U.S. would need to talk with some brotherhood members. Quote, do I think there are moderate Muslim Brotherhood individuals we are going to have to reach out to and talk to? Yes, Rogers said. That September, oh, there's more. That's September. He voted for a government funding measure that continued U.S. assistance to Egypt during Morsi's presidency. The aid supported Egyptian state institutions, including the military. No, the money that we provide to Egypt is to bribe them to play nice with Israel.
Starting point is 00:35:50 That's why we continue funding Egypt. That's the real reason. But I love this. And he also, by the way, lied that Abdul al-Sayyad has never disavowed the Muslim Brotherhood. and it's just not true. And yet again, Kristen Welker really shines in this exchange because she's like, yo, homie, you lie in. Okay, so take a look. He has denied and denounced the Muslim Brotherhood and denied any ties to them. No, he does not. He just want to.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Hold on what you're talking about. Let me do. He did in an interview with me. He has not. He said he had no ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. He won't answer a local newspaper. No, I don't. Let me.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Let me. Let's talk about the 2012 letter. You're giving him a pass on something. He should be held accountable. Okay. Can you set the record straight about whether you or your family have any ties to the Muslim Brotherhood? No, but let's talk about this. No, you don't have any ties.
Starting point is 00:36:44 No. And your family doesn't. No. Let me, let me ask you though, why this is even a subjective debate? Because his only strategy is to point to me and my name and my faith and to say that we're different. And he's totally right about that. I mean, what does Mike Rogers stand for? What is he really offering to the people of Michigan?
Starting point is 00:37:08 I mean, this is a Senate seat. What is your case for the American people? I mean, other than your brazen, disgusting bigotry, really. So I just love this because what Welker did here, Jank, is she basically tore apart through journalism, the one and only rallying cry Mike Rogers has. The only thing that he's leaned on in order to attempt to win the Senate seat. It's just chef's kiss.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I loved it. Go ahead. He literally voted for government assistance to the Muslim Brotherhood. I mean, it doesn't get any more ironic than this. So he's been saying, oh, you know, his mom and who he doesn't wasn't raised by before he was born in the 1970s, according to his stepsister said something positive about Muslim Brother. Bro, you financed them. How is this close?
Starting point is 00:38:07 And so look, it's super frustrating to me that we spent the whole election with, you know, talking about these nonsensical non-ties to Muslim Brotherhood or any other, you know, radical Muslim fundamentalist group. And it turns out, Mike Rogers is the guy who's been funding them all along. them all along. I mean, same thing with Nan Yahu. It turns out he's been helping the Qataris send Hamas money all along. So I found out where the problem is.
Starting point is 00:38:36 The call's coming from inside the house. So but hey, again, credit because we rarely ever get to do this. She did at least hold him to account on most of it. And then I thought it was very amused when he said, I wish you'd have done this to Abdul, but how could she have done it to Abdul when he's not on the record of supporting Muslim Brotherhood as you did. He's not on the record as calling them moderate like you did. And he's not on the record as financing them like you did. Jank, final thing for me on this. Look, I just think it's amazing. And this happens all the time. Who does Mike Rogers support more than anything, more than the
Starting point is 00:39:16 American people, the nation state of Israel, a foreign country? Can we maybe have a brief discussion about all the terrorism that Israel has aided and abetted, not to mention the terrorism they themselves have engaged in. So for instance, I've mentioned this a million times before. I'm going to keep mentioning it because I think it's telling. While Israel denies medical treatment to children who desperately need it in Gaza right now, they won't even allow them to leave the Gaza Strip in order to get the medical attention that they need. During the Syrian Civil War, and this is reported by Israeli media,
Starting point is 00:39:49 you all can look it up yourselves. During the Syrian civil war, Israel was bringing in al-Qaeda terrorists to treat them in their hospitals. Right now as we speak, Israel is arming and funding ISIS-linked militia groups in Gaza to terrorize the Palestinian people. That's what's happening right now. So you want to talk about aiding and abetting terrorism. Let's talk about your ally, Mike Rogers. Let's talk about your best friend, the people that you put before the American people, the country. He prioritizes above the American people.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Yeah. So my last thoughts on it. The media loves to play this denounce game. So how come they never asked Mike Rogers to denounce Benjamin Netanyahu, the butcher of Gaza? I mean, I don't think Abdullah's estranged mom in the 1970s killed anyone. She might or might not have said something positive about Muslim Brotherhood. Meanwhile, Netanyahu has ordered the indiscriminate bombings in Gaza that murdered 75,000 people, yet no one in American media has even thought to ask Mike Rogers to denounce it,
Starting point is 00:41:04 even though now APEC has announced they're putting $9 million into the race. So Abdul-El-Said not funded by anybody, not connected to any of these groups that they're continually charging him of just because he's got a Muslim name. But they themselves, Mike Rogers campaign, is benefiting to the tune of nine million dollars from the people who were the butchers in Gaza. But it doesn't even occur to the media to ask about that because they think that Israel's God's gift to humanity. So they'd be confused. Like, what do you mean? Ask him to denounce Israel. Israel's the most moral army and the greatest thing on earth. Why would we ask them to denounce a genocide if Israel's doing it.
Starting point is 00:41:48 It doesn't even occur to them. It's just amazing to watch how deeply, deeply biased almost all the media is while they pretend they're concerned about bigotry or connections to terrorism or people who might do harm. I got a pretty solid connection for Mike Rogers to the people doing harm. And finally, he said that he would support Israel. unconditionally, then he got the $9 million. He has never pledged to support the voters of Michigan unconditionally.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Mm-hmm. Preach it. All right, well, we gotta take another break. When we come back though, I want to give you an update on, well, the absolute chaos in Israel right now with the IDF refusing to follow Netanyahu's orders. I'll tell you why and more when we come back. All right, let's go to viewers on X. Casey Kent says, I'm going to love Anna and Jenk forever. Thank you, Casey.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Verada says Anna and Jenk, keep talking dirty to me. I love you guys. Happy to. Yeah. And the rest of the media is like, how dare they actually care about Americans? This is very anti-Semitic. No, no, no, no. Anyone who cares about Americans should be canceled from all the media.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Okay, that's your opinion, man. Rage Rockford now says, Jenk, loved your pushback on Pears, who seems to think using a pompous British accent, equates with respectability and pushing for endless war. Glenn Greenwald and Max Blumenthal had your back. So that was from the last episode. Anna and I were on Peers Morgan today, talked a little bit about that documentary we released last week. A decent amount of news these days. The closetocracy, that's on t.yt.com slash closet.
Starting point is 00:43:50 If you want to watch that, three male escorts slept with Lindsey Graham, including one that was 17 years old. I thought Anna and I did a great job there. So looking forward to you guys watching that one as well. Now YouTube members, Rockstar, 1975, says, you need some new tap dancing shoes, Mike. Cassandra Capernica says today, Brazilian party next month. Brazil's party next month, we will here, here. Jam, Oz, right, sent jank, your work and efforts doesn't go on notice. Thank you for all you do, a real patriot. Really appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 00:44:29 It's totally unnoticed in D.C., but I love that you guys notice it. You're way more important. Mark Francis. It's not a note. Hold on. It's not a notice in D.C. Jank. What you're doing goes against everything D.C. stands for.
Starting point is 00:44:42 So you should expect them to loathe you over what you're doing. and you should welcome it. It's a good thing. Let's get back to the show. Unlock unlimited free grocery delivery with PC Express Pass. Shop online and get the same low, no frills prices delivered.
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Starting point is 00:45:46 Voters out there, you won't hear many say that gas prices are too high, and I understand that. I agree with it. But remember, in 2022, let's just talk about gas prices. Remember in 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine and gas prices skyrocketed? They skyrocketed by the way far higher than than they are today. They skyrocketed in 1979, they skyrocketed in 2001. They skyrocketed in 2007. They skyrocket every time some tin pot dictator decides to throw a tantrum.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Oops, that was a nice 40-in slip. So yeah, that tin pot dictator in this case happens to be your boss, brother. So if you think that was bad, wait till you get a load of the dissension happening inside Israel. The IDF chief is apparently defying Benjamin Netanyahu and will not attack Iran despite being ordered to. That is amazing. Anna, what in the world is going on?
Starting point is 00:46:53 This story is incredible, but there are twists and turns. In fact, some twist and turns that the corporate media is not reporting on at all. So just stick around for the details on that. But before we get to that, here is what has been confirmed, not by our corporate media, but specifically by all Israeli media. So the story is just so incredible. So it was first reported by Channel 12 in Israel. Israel's defense officials say that they believe Netanyahu is attempting to
Starting point is 00:47:23 provoke a military confrontation with Iran before the Israeli election, which is set to take place tomorrow, October 27th, in order to allow Netanyahu to either postpone the election. He is trailing Gaddi Eisencott, his opponent in the polls, or it could even potentially help him garner support as a wartime prime minister. Now, anonymous sources told Channel 12 in Israel that Netanyahu ordered unspecified military action against Iran. Now, Ial Zamir, who is the IDF's chief, had been resisting carrying out the military action, no details of which were provided, and sought further deliberations as well as signed documentation from Netanyahu regarding legal authorization for it.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Now, the military source who also spoke to the channel, although under the condition of anonymity, said the following, quote, this relates to an action that could lead to a flare-up with Iran at a sensitive and dramatic moment creating this potential miscalculation. And that's the other word that really stands out in the story. Many believe that it would be a miscalculation to provoke kinetic warfare between Israel and Iran. And the people who say that are actually maybe the only intelligent people left in Israel. And the reason why I say that, Jank, is because as we've said over and over again, we have depleted interceptor missiles.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Okay, that makes both our troops, our service members, along with the Israelis, incredibly vulnerable. So some people are pointing to that and for good reason. Now, Channel 12's report spoke with other anonymous sources within Israel's military, and they said that there was concern among military leaders of an effort by the political leadership to utilize the Iranian issue for political benefit. I should also note that Netanyahu's opponent, Gadiazincott, the person who's currently leading in the polls in Israel, basically posted today, Netanyahu always knew that Iran didn't have nuclear weapons. Like they're just saying it. And so is that anti-Semitic? Because I was led to believe that I was anti-Semitic for pointing out the obvious. Now Gadi Isankh is pointing out the obvious.
Starting point is 00:49:47 But anyway, Nanyahu did sit down for a rare interview with Channel 14 in Israel and denied this reporting. He says, it's all nonsense. It's all made up. In fact, me and Zemir, we're the homies. Okay, we go way back. We're not having any problems at all. But there was some clear tension and hostility between the two during a discussion that took place just yesterday on Sunday at an air base in Israel. And the room was described, according to the times of Israel, as extremely sour.
Starting point is 00:50:17 And it's also worth noting that Netanyahu contradicted himself. Earlier in the interview, the prime minister said that he had recently instructed the IDF and Mossad to topple the Iranian regime. So clearly, he was giving Israel these, I'm sorry, he was giving the Israeli military these orders. And the big report here is that there was pushback from the IDF's chief. But here is the twist in the story, jank. And this hasn't been confirmed, so I want to be very, very clear about that. But it comes from a source that I trust, and that's Trita Parsi. So Trita Parsi was talking about this in an interview today with Mario Knopfal, actually.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And he said that Israel breached Iran's airspace over the weekend and in fact had carried out some action. in Taiz specifically. Iran did not respond to it. And the reason why they didn't respond to it is because they know that Netanyahu is trying to provoke the reigniting of this war. And they don't want to help him do what he's trying to do here. But at the same time, if there was military action against Iran, if they did violate Iran's airspace, Well, you would obviously need the IDF chief to agree to do that. So what's really going on here?
Starting point is 00:51:34 It's a little bit confusing, and I'm waiting on some confirmation on what actually happened over the weekend. But it could also be that Zemir is realizing that, look, the globe, and most people in the West do not agree with what Netanyahu is trying to do here. He is losing a lot of support. And, you know, sometimes it's best. better to abandon ship and kind of clear yourself from any wrongdoing or any attachment to the guy who's losing so much political support at this given moment. So it could be that
Starting point is 00:52:07 Zemir is positioning himself that way, but in reality did carry out some of the orders that Netanyahu had ordered over the weekend. We're just going to have to wait and see. But I'm curious what you think about this. Yeah, I'd be surprised by that. I think there's two different issues here. One is what does Israel actually want to do? And then their second is their internal politics about the election. I think this is more about the latter because almost all the candidates in the Israeli elections are for more war, more genocide in Gaza. And to, I don't know, to be fair to them, 82% of Israelis want to ethnically cleanse everyone in Gaza. So can I jump in?
Starting point is 00:52:49 There's something I came across today that kind of surprised me. You are right in regard to all of the candidates being pretty abhorrent when it comes to the Palestinians. Gotti Eisencott just came out and said regime change in Iran doesn't make sense, which shocked me. So I don't know if he's just saying that or if he genuinely believes it. But obviously that is a significant difference between Eisencott and Netanyahu. Yeah, look, the guy who's a perpetual, you know, war hawk and pushes us into all these wars is, of course, Netanyahu, he's not alone. There's an enormous, you know, radical Zionist infrastructure, both inside America and Israel,
Starting point is 00:53:33 that help Netanyahu and the, you know, extreme right wing of Israel do this. But unfortunately, most of Israel is extreme right wing now. I look, I sometimes I'll see a couple of comments from Eisenkatt, who was, by the way, a terrible history, like a barbaric history. But Yitzhak Rabin had a barbaric terrorist history and theoretically was trying to get to peace when an Israeli terrorist murdered him. And so look, if an Israeli leader goes in the right direction, are you kidding me, we will all be enormously relieved, the whole world will be relieved.
Starting point is 00:54:07 The lunatics who think like, oh, everybody just hates Israel because they hate Jews are detached from reality. They recently escaped mental patients. No, we're desperate for Israel to do the right things and I'd be happy to see them rejoin the civilized world and stop attacking all of its neighbors, stop committing genocide. If Eisencott or anyone else goes in that direction, I'd be thrilled to see it. But so far in their campaigning, it has predominantly been saying, no, no, we're keep going in Gaza because that's what the voters want. And so, There is no real left wing answer inside Israel at all at this point, right? There's a tiny minority inside about 11, 12% of Israelis who are, you know, say peace at this point,
Starting point is 00:54:55 which is heartbreaking. And so in their internal politics, they all wanna get rid of everybody who's opposed to Natanyahu obviously wants to get rid of Nanjahou and they wanna be the leader. And they're all tired of them for their own internal purposes. And it give you a sense of like how deep that is, Abador Lieberman is one of the most right wing, you know, genocide loving zealots inside of Israeli politics. He accused Netanyahu of treason for telling the idea of to attack Iran before the elections. They're not worried, at least certainly the Lieberman camp and many other camps that are objecting
Starting point is 00:55:32 to this are not worried, oh my God, are we gonna go into another war? who are so concerned, are we gonna kill innocent Iranians or Muslims? Oh, we're so, no, no, they're not concerned about that at all, as far as I can tell from their public statements. They're concerned that this, restarting the war before the elections will help Netanyahu, vis-a-vis Abkhore Lieberman or Eisenkot or any of these guys. And then I think Zemir's concerned, the head of the IDF, is that he doesn't want to get involved in politics and doing a bombing of Iran right before the election is getting.
Starting point is 00:56:06 getting deeply involved in politics. And I think basically what he's saying is happy to resume bombing and murder after the elections are over the minute the new leader of Israel gives me the orders to, but I don't want you to interfere with the current elections. I think that's what 98% of this is about. I don't see much turning from the rest of the Israeli politicians at all in terms of what they're gonna do afterwards. Yeah, I mean, look, this is obviously a power struggle within Israel.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And so they're seeing the current incumbent prime minister attempt to use bloodshed and war in order to essentially in his own way rig the election in his favor. And they don't like that. Okay. So I do think that is the top priority or the top rationale for the division or for the number of people who are now willing to rise up and speak out against what Netanyahu is doing. And just to give the audience the specific details about what Avigore Lieberman is saying about Netanyahu, he wants a full-blown investigation. Let's go to Graphic 8 here where he posted on X. This morning, I appealed to the Attorney General demanding the opening of a criminal investigation against Netanyahu for the charge of treason. In the past month, Israel's prime minister has been pressuring the heads of the security establishment to take steps that could create a miscalculation.
Starting point is 00:57:31 vis-a-vis Iran, the attempt to drag the state of Israel into war on the eve of elections, together with the willingness to sacrifice IDF soldiers, oh, God forbid, solely due to fear of losing the elections constitutes treason against the state, its security, and the IDF soldiers. Now, a few other things to just bring up quickly. If you guys can recall Donald Trump, the president of the United States, has now endorsed, forcefully, aggressively endorsed Netanyahu for re-election, not once but twice. And there is some indication that there was a quid pro quo there. I will endorse you for the re-election, as long as you don't strike Iran before the election.
Starting point is 00:58:16 But there is no honor among thieves. So of course Netanyahu is going to attempt to provoke war with Iran before the election takes place. The other thing to note is that we are seeing some pretty big changes in the Middle East, especially with the reality of Saudi Arabia being far weaker than anyone ever imagined. In fact, there's reporting today indicating that Saudi Arabia is offering the Houthis a billion dollars, $1 billion if they promise to stop attacking them. Man, that's embarrassing. I love it. And then you also have this big meeting that took place today between Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Pakistan. We don't know what the outcome of that meeting is.
Starting point is 00:58:59 We just know that it happened. It just happened. And they just walked out of the room from that meeting. But I'm curious to see how that plays out. Jank, what do you think? Do you think that this is potentially an alliance that will provide a check on Israel potentially in the Middle East? Yeah, so it's not clear. I think that the main reason that Turkey got into that alliance is because they wanted to take nukes off the table in regards to Israel.
Starting point is 00:59:31 They correctly assess that Israel's itching to either use a nuke itself or force America to use a nuke. And once they started talking about Turkey, Turkey then did a deal with Pakistan. Pakistan has nuclear weapons, so that would be mutually assured destruction. If anyone in the alliance is nuked, then presumably Pakistan would use nuclear weapons back. And by the way, since they've made that deal, the Israelis have started to talk less about invading Turkey. And now they've started turning their attention to whether nukes should be used in Iran instead. And so then why was it Turkey before? Because Turkey's too tough to be.
Starting point is 01:00:09 They're the second largest army in NATO. So maybe they thought they were reserving the nukes for them. But now that had to be taken off the table. Now part of the reason Pakistan did deal is because Saudi Arabia is providing the financing for that deal. And why does Saudi Arabia do the deal? Because they want protection now. So that's why in the beginning, Pakistan and Turkey were like, I don't, this is
Starting point is 01:00:33 really about Israel from our perspective and not necessarily about protecting you from other Muslims, but the Saudis said, no, we're not paying you for nothing, brothers. You gotta come help us right now in this situation. And they're doing that. By the way, I have my own sources inside the Middle East that say the Saudis and UAE are paying Iran not to attack them. So I mean, this is amazing. These countries are paper tigers.
Starting point is 01:01:04 And so that's why the Houthis have been able to run through the Saudi aligned forces. and whatever weapons the Saudis had like a hot knife through butter. I mean, the Houthis barely have any money at all. And nevertheless, they're beating the Saudis with billions of dollars because the Saudis apparently don't know how to fight. Well, I'm going to end on what Abbasarakshi, the Iranian foreign minister had to say about the possibility of the U.S. and Israel reigniting war with them.
Starting point is 01:01:36 This is what he says. This is graphic 10. They have already done so twice, meaning the airstrikes and all of that, and have seen the results. If they want to try again, they know they will achieve no different outcome from those of the past. I mean, where's the lie? I think it would be far better if we just end this. And then maybe eventually when things calm down, make a deal with Iran in regard to the Strait of Hormuz, which let me remind you all, was open and free for transit prior to us starting a war with Iran against Iran on behalf of Israel.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Yeah. And what I'll say finally here is, guys, I don't get false hope here. So what seems clear now is that we are not going to attack Iran before the midterms because Netanyahu made the big push. And of course, we didn't stop them. We never stop them. We always do whatever Netanyahu commands. But inside Israel, the Israeli press is much better than the American press, they often have stories that are critical of the Israeli government. And the Israeli military in this case stopped Nan Yahu before the elections. But after the midterm elections, as CNN is reporting, we have amassed forces in the Gulf, and we are ready, potentially with ground troops.
Starting point is 01:02:57 And I would be dramatically surprised if after the elections we don't attack Iran again, as Israel overall has asked us to do. Yeah, I mean, we're going to have to wait and see. But one thing that I would bet money on, there will be war. Okay, and it will come probably after the been terms. All right, that does it for the first hour of the show. When we come back, we've got some good news out of Brazil. We'll talk about the outcome of the election, which honestly was kind of surprising
Starting point is 01:03:28 given the last time we talked about Brazil. And then later, if we have time, hopefully we'll get to that AOC story about, you know, some political calculation she has made that has upset the left flank of the Democratic Party. We'll be right back. It's October, which means the weather's getting colder, mornings and nights are getting darker, and your body's like, what happened? When this season's shift, you need your foundation to stay solid. That's why using AG1 makes so much sense. Age 1 NextGen has 75 plus ingredients, vitamins, minerals, pre and probiotics, superfoods, backed by four separate gold standard clinical trials. Not just one study, four. Key nutrient levels improved within three months of consistent
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Starting point is 01:05:05 I believe in that. I don't believe in Christianity, which means that you do not get to dictate the way I live my life based on your religion. I don't care what the Bible says. You have every right in the world. All those women who identify with your religion have every right in the world to not get an abortion, to not take birth control. But they do not have the right to dictate my life.
Starting point is 01:05:26 And what I decide to do with my body, I don't care about your goddamn religion. I'm so tired of having non-stop conversations about what the Bible says. You live your life in the way that you interpret the Bible. Again, I don't care, but you don't get to take the Bible and tell me, while the Bible says this, in this chapter and this verse, I don't care. I don't care. I don't believe in it. And I have the right based on our Constitution to not believe in it.
Starting point is 01:05:56 No part of gossip has been left unscate. Ain't a whole lot left. I don't know why they need any more bomb. Let us be clear. The United States provided $18 billion in military aid to Israel. Netanyahu indiscriminate bombardment have killed more than 50,000 civilians, 60% of whom are women, children, paramedics, and journalists. All of this is against basic human decency.
Starting point is 01:06:28 You don't starve children with absolutely no. humanitarian aid getting into Gaza. It is a war crime. It is illegal for the United States government to provide Israel with more offensive weapons. It will not forgive us. We've been on our phones too much. I feel like we just need to touch grass or something. I told you. I mean, you know what? Let's actually do it. Let's touch the grass. Andrew Yang. It's not racist, right? It's him. Yes, it is I. Andrew Yang out here giving money away, as usual.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Wait, but literally? Do you use a phone? Noble Mobile will cut your wireless bill in half every month, and you get paid even more if you log off, look up, and touch grass. Oh, I actually have some grass. I don't think that's the kind of grass. Not that kind of grass, unfortunately. Whoa, wait, what the...
Starting point is 01:07:34 Whoa. I guess that kind of grass works, too. All grass works. All grass and we get cash? Did you see that, babe? Go, go, go, make it rain, make it rain, make it rain, make it. That didn't rain so good, but now it's raining good. Corruption, injustice, the system is rigged against you.
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Starting point is 01:09:24 the night. Obviously damage report at 1 o'clock, indisputable at 2.30 p.m. Eastern, Young Turks is six. Our election coverage starts at 7 p.m. Eastern and we carried on substack and on C-SPAN 2 as well as, of course, obviously right here. Okay, let's go to our next story. It looked like another rigged election. No, I didn't know besides. He was on the side of Boston or the guy who lost. That's why he's complaining about rigged elections and totally making it up.
Starting point is 01:10:15 There's absolutely no evidence of that. But the major news is, oh my God, Lula the Silva won and a little bit of an upset given the first round of voting. So that is spectacular news. How did that happen? What happened and why Anna's got the story? Well, Jank, I think following the results of the first round of voting, it galvanized voters. Like, uh-oh, we better get off our asses and we better participate. So let me tell you what happened.
Starting point is 01:10:43 So in the first round of voting earlier this month, a story that we covered here at TY. Lula de Silva had garnered a lot of votes, 2.2 million votes, that's a lot. But shockingly, despite the polls showing that Lula was leading, the first round showed that he was still two points behind Flavio Bolsonaro. And he didn't get the over 50% of the vote necessary to call it. So they had to go to a second round of voting. And that's what happened over the weekend. Now Lula pulled off a historic victory during the second round of voting on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:11:17 receiving 4.4 million more votes than Bolsonaro. And this will now be his fourth non-consecutate presidential term, Lulas specifically. Okay. So you're looking at the results there. Yeah, go ahead. I'm just gonna jump in real quick. You just misspoke for a second. He lost by 2.2 million votes last time around.
Starting point is 01:11:39 And this time he won by 4.4 million votes. Oh my gosh, I'm sorry. Yes, that's what I meant. My bad. I did misspeak. Okay, so point in. Point is, in the second round, all of a sudden, you see Lula with this pretty significant upset. And it's because of the fact that you had more voters participate in the second round of voting.
Starting point is 01:11:59 So Lula's margin of victory on Sunday was roughly double the margin four years ago when he narrowly beat Bolsonaro's father, Jaya Bolsonaro, who's currently in prison because he, you know, lost the election and then attempted to do a coup, didn't sit well with the Brazilian people. And by the way, this now makes the first time that, this is the first time in Brazil's history that a candidate who lost in the first round made a comeback to win in the second round. And it does look like the outcome of the first round galvanized more voters to show up for the second round because there was an increase in voter turnout. So Lula received 10 million new votes compared to the first round of voting. The first round had a record abstention rate of 21%. But this round, it fell to 19%. So obviously the voters were energized the second time around. And I do think that Lula de Silva's campaign strategy shifting a little bit,
Starting point is 01:12:57 made a bit of a difference. Okay, so he decided to emphasize the issues that make him popular in the first place. You know, the populist issues, he focused his campaigning on women and younger voters in the second round of his campaigning. He also doubled down on a new digital strategy, which obviously is important, very critical here. In fact, he started filming these like selfie-style campaign videos. And an ally to Lula de Silva,
Starting point is 01:13:25 a lawmaker by the name of Andre Janonis, launched a WhatsApp channel that drew 10 million members in just three weeks, helping to kind of expand Lula's campaign in the online world. And then let's just quickly talk about Lula's populace platform because remember, he's the guy who lifted millions of Brazilians out of poverty. That really is his claim to fame.
Starting point is 01:13:49 But unfortunately, there is a crime problem in Brazil, and that was hurting him. Like he lost a little bit of support because of that issue, which is really difficult to solve unilaterally. But nonetheless, De Silva has made lavish spending promises, championed a shorter working week without a cut in pay and proposed debt relief for struggling households. He also floated free public transportation on weekends, seeking to reconnect with poorer voters who had long formed the backbone of his support. And Lula was also able to win despite apps like META and X that were trying to kind of put
Starting point is 01:14:26 their thumb on the scale in this election. So I want to go to this Reuters headline. They had reported that META employees said Lula's accounts were hindered during Brazilian election. And Lula will still face a staunchly conservative legislature and a pretty combative and combative state governments. But nonetheless, winning over Bolsonaro was so incredibly important given what Bolsonaro represents. And he represents, you know, a right wing, pro-Israel, you know, anti-democracy wing of Brazil's political world. And I'm happy to see that the Brazilian people rejected it. Yeah, super happy about that because I was
Starting point is 01:15:09 worried that we're going to lose Brazil to this right wing demagogues that took over Argentina, Ecuador and other countries in Latin America. And generally people are not voting for right or left. They're voting for change all across the world. And that's why reporters are constantly flummox. They're like in reporting on this story, they're like, well, a lot of the recent elections had gone to the right wing in Latin America, but this in South America, and this has now gone to the left, it's so perplexing, it's not perplexing. The whole world can't stand the current economic system and power system we're under, and they constantly want to change it.
Starting point is 01:15:50 So that's why I was worried that they were going to accidentally change it in the wrong direction in Brazil, and we would know a thing or two about accidentally changing it in the wrong direction, Anna, because that's what we did. So here in America, our establishment has never acknowledged that the reason that people voted for Trump is because they hated the current status quo, the system, and the establishment so much that they were willing to vote for this buffoon who's basically a hand grenade rolled into back into the room. And so, but that doesn't like that thirst for change is incredibly justified in all of these
Starting point is 01:16:29 countries and also in America. But you want the change to go in the right direction, not further in the wrong direction. And that's exactly what Trump did. And now as a lot of people can see and acknowledge, yeah, you guys were right, that was the wrong kind of change. And we just made things way worse. And that's what another Bolsonaro would have done. Sure he would have let his dad out of prison, even though his dad tried a coup.
Starting point is 01:16:54 And they would have gone more in the direction of joining in, you know, oppressing their own people, let alone worldwide. And so I'm super proud of the Brazilian people for seeing through that and voting in the right direction. In fact, if you want more of an indication that the people of Brazil voted in the right direction, remember, because of the first round of voting, the business community was expecting Bolsonaro to win. And then as soon as he didn't when you can see how the markets reacted to it. So let's go to graphic five here. The Brazilian Real slid more than 10% against the US dollar while the country's benchmark stock index fell nearly 17%, which would mark a record daily loss. So global investors, they were counting on
Starting point is 01:17:45 Bolsonaro to win and then he didn't. And then take a look at the stock market. Okay, so Brazilian stocks fall. You see that sharp decline, mostly because the guy who was supposed to supposed to let the business community rape and pillage Brazil didn't win. So, oh, sorry about that. And by the way, if you ever had even a moment where you questioned whether Steve Bannon is as disgusting as he really is, take a look at how he reacted to Lula de Silva winning over Bolsonaro. Let me be blunt. The Secretary of State needs to come out now. The Bolsonaro's gave you permission structure. They've laid out the math. Flavio, the candidate, has said, we're not given up here. Secretary of State, then the president have to come out. Cut off diplomatic relationships,
Starting point is 01:18:35 shut down. Everything in Brazil, no trade, nothing. This is an illegitimate, this is a Marxist, globalist government. And if you don't think this is not going to happen here in the United States of America, you are dead wrong. Oh my gosh, it's the greatest comeback ever. It's stolen up in your face. They're so brazen about it. And if you don't take, if we don't take action and back it down. It's happening next Tuesday here in this country. Populist on the right, ladies and gentlemen, Steve Bannon, the biggest fraud in the political scene imaginable.
Starting point is 01:19:06 This is the guy who positions himself as a populist, but works, I mean, tirelessly to ensure that actual populace lose elections. That's who Steve Bannon is. Back to you, Jank. Yeah, I mean, I hope to God he doesn't actually represent real right-wing populace. No, he doesn't. He's a total fraud. Yeah, there's a lot of phonies out there.
Starting point is 01:19:27 If you remember, he did a whole documentary that was positive about Jeffrey Epstein. He was about to release it when Epstein was put in prison. And so he stole money from Trump voters who thought he was going to use the money to build the wall. He put it in his fat pockets. Yeah. The guy is a disgusting scammer. So it is what it is. And then Trump pardoned him.
Starting point is 01:19:49 So he didn't have to deal with the consequences of literally stealing from Trump's base. So he called. That's who bad it is. Yeah, he called Lula Marxist there. So anytime you look out for the people of your own country, they call you a Marxist. So, but wait, is he really centralizing all the businesses and taking them over and there's no more private businesses in Brazil? Wait a minute, wait a minute, this is going to be his fourth term.
Starting point is 01:20:15 If he wanted to turn the country Marxist or communist, then take over all the private businesses. Why didn't he do it in the other three terms? Oh, right, that's a giant lie. No, the minute you say, hey, you know, maybe the Brazilian people should also have something and not just the top companies and corporations inside Brazil, they're like, more excess. And that's why the corporations are like, oh, this is outrageous. We will not be able to steal from the Brazilian people as effectively with Lula in. Well, thank you for the endorsement, and that's probably why he won.
Starting point is 01:20:46 So look, guys, it isn't just about going, you know, on a global level blue no matter who, right? although ironically, Lula's colors in Brazil are red. So for example, Emmanuel Macron, a little bit on the left, certainly pretending to be an independent when he first ran and pretending to be slightly a smidge populace when he first ran, that's all long gone, right? Here, Starmor was on the left in the UK. These people are not on the left, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton. Those people are just corporatists.
Starting point is 01:21:24 And so they will do whatever the business community or donor class one. We're not interested in that. So we weren't like, oh my God, Kirstarmer won, right? Who cares? And then he turns out to have banned me from entering the UK, so boy, was I right. But really it's all tricks and it's the same neoliberalism that you get, no matter if it's any part of the establishment left or right. The reason we're excited about Lula de Sibba is because he's not part of that.
Starting point is 01:21:52 establishment. He's not a fake, you know, leftist who then comes in and makes the bankers happy anyway, right? He's actually trying to look out for the Brazilian people. And that's why he pulled a ton of people out of poverty. And that track record helped elevate him for a fourth term, which is incredible, right? And it's a big, in a time of change, Anna, and people almost every time voting for change, the fact that they stuck with Lula de Silva, is an incredible testament to the work that he's done trying to represent the people of Brazil. I agree. All right, we do have to take a break. When we come back, we've got a mega segment on AI. There's a big admission by Elon Musk, big updates when it comes to, you know, anthropic and their public offering.
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Starting point is 01:23:17 I didn't like Anna at all. Fast forward to today, these two are honestly real. He wrote in all caps. Thank you, brother. You like us. You like us. And why? Because turns out, and by the way, Anna,
Starting point is 01:23:31 They're wonderful for saying this because they got an open mind and they're being real about it. And somebody said, look, man, it turns out we were lied to earlier. Like, you know, mainstream media lied to people, but so to right wing media. And now that we can see clearly, yeah, these guys have been fighting for us the whole time. We just didn't know it, right? And I love that kind of open mind in this. So Micah Dave on Super Chat says, hey, Jenkinana, just cautionary tale from your buddy in British Columbia. Yesterday, a Tory won the election due because of the left splitting the vote between the
Starting point is 01:24:01 NDP, the party in power with the Green Party. No, I hear you on that. I don't think we're in danger of that at this point, but it's a good warning. Gargoyle dragon says, watch everyone turn on BB if he loses the election. Of course, everyone in American media is going to say, oh, it's not beloved Israel, Israel, Israel's the greatest country on it. It's just that in Yahoo. Now back to everybody giving everything to war bombs money to Israel, guaranteed, write it down
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Starting point is 01:27:14 That means the bubble is interesting. is inches away from bursting, but we have even more depressing numbers for you guys, because once you see the size of the danger here in this AI bubble, it is super scary, and you've got to take precautions. And it's got the whole story. First of all, big shout out to Taylor Ellis, who produced this segment and made it easy to understand for those who aren't really in the tech world. But let me tell you what Elon Musk had to say specifically, just yesterday, he wrote this on X. As of the past few weeks, debt markets have almost entirely shut off access to money for any company that doesn't have
Starting point is 01:27:50 substantial revenue independent of AI data centers. I mean, that should have been the case all along, but okay, he continues. SpaceX closed $40 billion of debt for graphics processing units, but were investment grade and have Starlink and launch revenue. That means the 200 plus Neo clouds are going to see guppy level death and consolidation. Some will make it through, but not many. Okay. So you might be thinking, what the hell is he talking about? Let me break it down and make it easy to understand. So first, what the hell is a neocloud? You might be wondering, well, a neocloud is a company that essentially builds the computing structure for AI companies. And CoreWeave is just one example of a neocloud company. And I want you to remember the name of that
Starting point is 01:28:40 company, neocloud, because it's going to come back up later in this segment. Now, the neocloud companies are taking on debt to build out their infrastructure. But according to Musk, debt markets are no longer interested in providing the loans to these companies. They no longer agree with or are interested in this business model. And while meta or alphabet, which are building out their own data centers, offer other products that provide a revenue stream for their companies, you know, like Facebook and Google, other neocloud companies might not really have the same setup or the same type of revenue stream from other diversified aspects of their business model.
Starting point is 01:29:22 And by the way, we should also note that there is a pretty powerful figure involved in all of this who does not want to see the neocloud build out go bust. And that person is, of course, Jensen Wong, the CEO of Navidia. Navidia has invested into the neocloud companies, and the neocloud facilities use Navidia's products. Okay, so there's a bit of a mutual benefit type situation going on here. But here's the catch. Even the CEO of Navidia has admitted that there's not enough money to loan to these neocloud companies.
Starting point is 01:30:02 And so in an interview with CNBC, Navidia CEO Jensen Wong said this. The demand for neoclouds is off the charts. What is missing is the working capital to fuel that growth because there's just so much demand across so many sectors of artificial intelligence. There's a scarcity of capital. The demand of the capital is much greater than the availability of the capital. That's going to get solved. He thinks it's going to get solved.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Only time will tell if he's correct about that. But let's circle back to what I mentioned earlier, Coreweave, right? one of the neocloud companies I was referring to. Well, Corweave is a good example of how, well, the lenders are no longer really interested in, you know, providing the loans, the leverage necessary for these buildouts. Corweave saw its shares drop 41% since October 6th as of last Friday's close. Shares of other neoclouds have also posted double digit declines during that time. So Corweave needs to issue bonds, kind of like the U.S. government does, right? with our treasuries. Corby needs to issue bonds to basically finance their computing build out. But there's a problem with that.
Starting point is 01:31:13 So earlier this month, the price of their bonds fell so much. And inversely, their yields spiked so much that their bonds are classified as distressed. So going the bonds route is not really working out for Corweave either. Analyst Gil Luria stated that borrowing at very high interest rates in order to build data centers that are increasingly commoditized outside of the hypers may not end up being a good investment. The more leverage we use to build data centers, the more risk we're bringing into the system.
Starting point is 01:31:47 And I can't emphasize enough how important that point is. Because remember, these over leveraged companies are being securitized, right? And so we'll get to that in just a minute. But let's look at this graphic first. So according to Americans for Financial Reform, Just nine companies, guys, that's Alphabet, Amazon, AMD, Broadcom, Meta, Microsoft, Navidia, Oracle, and SpaceX, have a whopping $3.7 trillion with a T, trillion dollars in debt. And remember how Navidia is an investor in Correweef? Let's talk about that just briefly. Analysts expect companies in the S&P 500 to report a 30% jump in third quarter earnings from a year.
Starting point is 01:32:34 year ago, but just two companies, Navidia and Micron, account for 34% of that growth, according to a Dow Jones market data analysis. And if you're ready for things to get even riskier, I'm not, it doesn't matter, it's coming anyway. A new report from Americans for financial reform indicates the following. Speculative data-centered debt is being repackaged and sold to pension and retirement funds, university endowments, and other institutional investors in a manner eerily, eerily reminiscent of the subprime bubble. Now, the subprime bubble had to do with these predatory loans for mortgages, basically. In this case, we're talking about over leveraged AI companies and they're very likely going to fail and they're involved in your in your portfolio,
Starting point is 01:33:32 your retirement portfolio, your pension portfolio. I mean, this is a disaster of epic proportions. Back to you, Jank. So we've got more disastrous numbers in a second, believe it or not, but let me go through the ones that Anna mentioned. So guys, once they start putting it into your pensions, that's what they call the suckers at the table. So they make money from the loans of they've given and they've made substantial money because of the very high interest rates that Anna mentioned earlier. Excuse me, and once they've taken a bunch of the interest, they'd love to dump those loans onto you guys so that when they blow up, they go, oh, well, golly gee, I guess they blew up
Starting point is 01:34:14 in your pension funds and not on our budget, so sad day for you. And so that's hugely problematic. And we told you earlier too that just like in the subprime loan disaster, the gun is the over-leveraging. The trigger could be any given thing. In that case, they were bundling the home mortgages and then gambling on them. In this case, it might be the data centers or the AI companies themselves. Once they go under, they trigger a set of dominoes. That's the trigger, but the gun is this absurd amount of debt that they have taken on very
Starting point is 01:34:57 speculative financial risks. Now, the reason I say it's very speculative is because they're like, oh, no, it's okay, they could borrow $800 billion because AI is going to control the world. What if AI doesn't control the world or it takes 20 years for it to control the world? First of all, I don't want it to control the world, neither do most Americans or world citizens. But even if they're right from a business perspective, what if it takes too long and you're holding high interest rates? So we talked to you about this before in the context of Trump's properties.
Starting point is 01:35:36 The reason that he went into spectacular series of bankruptcies in Atlantic City is because his third and last casino, the Taj Mahal, had gotten interest rates that around. 14% on the money that they used to buy and build the Taj Mahal. And everybody at the time thought, and they were correct, that that is way too high an interest rate, totally unsustainable. You know, the House always wins, asterix, unless it's run by Donald Trump, who took out a 14% interest rate. So once the Taj Mahal collapsed, so did the other two casinos. It created a domino effect.
Starting point is 01:36:12 So these high interest rates are super, super risky way to build a business. And if your profits don't come, forget not coming in at all. If they come in too late, the interest starts to pile up so much, you can't possibly service it just on the timing issues, let alone the substance of your product. So we're in a world of trouble here, guys. They cannot pay those interest rates quickly enough given what's happening in this market. And you could tell because Corp Reaver is already a distressed property. Because you're distressed property, you're inches away from going under.
Starting point is 01:36:48 And so, and you get into a vicious cycle. So, and remember once one of these fall, other companies have invested into one another. The AI companies invested into one another. NVIDIA invested into the AI companies and the neocloud companies. And then they're going to have that as a problematic asset in their books. They're gonna have to write it down. Their earnings will suffer. And then the market will punish them.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Oh, and off we go to the races. The dominoes all fall. This bubble's gonna burst and we are in massive trouble. And we're gonna show you more terrible numbers in a second. But Anna, what were you gonna say? More terrible numbers. I mean, who cares what I have to say? Like the facts are the facts and you guys need to know how disastrous these numbers are.
Starting point is 01:37:33 So I wanna talk about the banks, which of course provided loans to these AI companies. How much money are we talking about here? Because remember, you and I have been talking about this a lot on the show. What happens when the banks ask for bailouts like they did in the global financial crisis of 2008? Because banks also had $450 billion in open commitments to AI-linked borrowers, primarily lines of credit, as of the end of last year, 2025, of which $150 billion was outstanding. And here's the big question, guys. This is the real big question here. Is the market going to get serious about all of this obvious, unreasonable risk before or after
Starting point is 01:38:19 Anthropics impending IPO? Because look, we've talked about this before. Anthropics revenue was $16.3 billion in the first half of the year. That's impressive. That's impressive, right? But there's that catch. What am I talking about? Anthropics net loss was $80.7 billion driven.
Starting point is 01:38:39 largely by a one-time charge. Stunningly, the company has committed up to $807 billion in contracts for data centers, chips and computing power, many of which cannot be canceled over the next 10 years. So again, they brought in $16.3 billion in revenue, but lost $80.7 billion. In the first half of the year. In the first half of the year. Okay. So these losses, as far as the I can see, How are you going to get return on investment on your massive interest rates, at least for the
Starting point is 01:39:15 Neo-Cloud companies? And so let me flesh out some of the other problems here. They're hoping to raise $100 billion in their IPO when they launch in the stock market, but already analysts are saying that won't be enough to service the $807 billion in contracts. They're going to need more immediately afterwards. But this is all speculative. We have no idea if the $807 billion in contracts are going to work out for Anthropic and how long before they work out.
Starting point is 01:39:47 So no, no, this is an epic disaster. How could these people not see it? It's insanity. And I think at this point, Anna, they do see it. And that's why Elon is giving that warning. That's why Elon, in my opinion, is trying to merge all of his companies so he can say it's too big to fail. That's why Open AI is saying, well, you know, this is basically a public good.
Starting point is 01:40:11 So, you know, the government should be an insurer of last resort, meaning when we go under, you're gonna need to bail us out. And so now to the point of needing to bail them out, if you can't do it with $100 billion, which is a spectacular IPO when you launch, how much is it gonna need? No, this is totally unsustainable. And did you hear that part where the contracts are not cancelable? Oh my God, that's an extra burden on your balance sheet. That is an enormous financial problem.
Starting point is 01:40:44 If you can't cancel those contracts, do you owe that money no matter what? No matter what happens to you in business. So even a slightly wrong turn and you've got all of this debt and all these obligations on your books, they're gonna drag the company down. There's almost no question about it. Then, okay, a company goes under, you can say, so what? That's capitalism, right? No guys, there's two giant problems.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Number one, almost all the growth in the markets are from just a couple of companies, as Anna pointed out there. 34% of the growth is just from two companies related to AI. So if those two companies have problems, that drags down the entire market, which then creates another vicious cycle. But the most important vicious cycle of all is the same thing that made everyone panic so much about in 2008. And they never fully really clarified that for you guys.
Starting point is 01:41:40 So I'm not sure you understand why the panic will be so large from the people in power once this bubble bursts. Because the banks are all levered up to the gears. And as, as Musk said, they're not giving anymore because they realize now they've, they're leverage to these companies are dangerous. If you borrow a little bit from a bank, the bank owns you. If you borrow a lot from a bank, you own the bank, okay? And so that's the old model that Trump used to use for not paying his debts.
Starting point is 01:42:12 But the banks all give short-term loans to all the other corporations. So once the banks go under, because of all this debt is not going to get repaid, then all the other corporations have no money at all to operate their businesses, and that's when the entire economy melts down. And we are perilously close to that. Almost certain to happen. So buckle up and brace for impact. This is going to be a gigantic crash. But in the meantime, we're going to take a break. And when we come back, a story that you will be amused by. Don't miss it. Unlock unlimited free grocery delivery with PC Express Pass. Shop online and get the same low,
Starting point is 01:43:04 no frills prices delivered. Get your first year of PC Express pass for just $2.50 a month. Learn more at no frills.ca. All right, back on TYT. Morik 8,511 wrote in on Superchat. Jenk, please tell Anna to do her best keeping the genie out of the bottle. Not exactly sure what that means, but I don't know, but you could write back in.
Starting point is 01:43:45 I don't know if you're referring to Jins, But anyways, on YouTube members, Jaha Dawood said Anna loved the hair. Thank you. Tony Guzman. Tony Guzman said, Mar and Trump are such a beautiful couple. That's the story we're gonna get to in a second. Cassandra Capernica has an interesting idea. Confiscate Musk assets for damages to the country.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Look, a lot of interesting things are going to happen soon once the crash happens. And these people in power are so arguing, they're like, oh, we've been. They're just gonna bail us out. These suckers will destroy their pensions and then we'll tell them you owe us a bailout, including bonuses. They have no idea what's going to hit them next. Octo Squiddies on Twitch says literally every accusation is a confession referring to the Israelis, Israel first complaining about bigotry.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Semperfire dog said these people are sick if they think that ad is bad, the Rebellion Pack ad, but Vivex is okay. Come on. engineer writes in on t yt.com slash join bb needs an iran invasion to be seen as a wartime leader they're at war with all their neighbors already isn't that enough cabbage says i don't understand how that race is so close like day and night between rogers and said you have to remember though unfortunately bigotry against Muslims is significant they're worried that half of muslim half of the people in michigan might not vote for abdulahi just on the fact that he's a Muslim that's
Starting point is 01:45:11 Super sad but relevant. Guys, it's Jenkin Anna, obviously back on the online show The Young Turks. I just want to tell you real quick. So a lot of our different sources of revenue have been cut off here at TYTG, I wonder why. But you guys are still with us and we appreciate it. So what we're doing is a very unique thing where the audience can sponsor us for our election night coverage.
Starting point is 01:45:54 So t.yt.com slash sponsorship, if you'd like to sponsor us, and then we feature your name in the credits and could also feature your business. So t.com slash sponsorships obviously will be here all night for our election coverage and we'll have plenty of these and I hope we can fill them on election night. There's some in there now from apparently from the Rebellion Pack ad. Okay, so looking forward to that. Now let's go to our next story. Dinner last night with Kid Rock and Stephen A and Bill Maher was raised.
Starting point is 01:46:29 They, I think they had a good time. What did you talk about? We talked about everything. It lasted a long time. And, you know, even though they have to sort of put on a certain little facade for their people, they like Trump. And I actually like them. We had a great time. We even took a little tour of the ballroom.
Starting point is 01:46:49 We went inside the ballroom with beams that are being put up over our head. But it was a great dinner. It was very informative dinner. Smart people. Stephen A is great. Bill Maher, I tell you what, he likes me a lot more than people understand, and I actually like him. So 10 days ago, Donald Trump was all compliments for Bill Maher, and then last night he wrote a manifesto against Bill Maher. So in this fight between Bill Maher and Donald Trump, who's the winner?
Starting point is 01:47:25 We are, because they're ripping each other's faces off, and they're both awful. Let's tell you the whole story. Oh, I will allow it. Am I not merciful, Jank? I will allow it. So this is now the second dinner. Bill Maher has had with Donald Trump. Now, he received a ton of backlash following his first dinner with Trump last year.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Kid Rock had arranged the rendezvous and also attended the rendezvous. But even after the first time, Trump later raged at Marr, writing on Truth Social in February, quote, it was a total waste of time for me to have this jerk at the White House. He blasted Mar for some of his humor, which where's his humor? Like, I don't know where I keep, I have a hard time finding his humor, but okay. Nonetheless, it turns out that Marr learned absolutely no lessons. He agrees to have a second dinner with Donald Trump. And in this case, the dinner also included Kid Rock and Stephen A. Smith, as you heard the president
Starting point is 01:48:27 mention in that video. And afterward, you know, Trump did write that manifesto, but we don't really know exactly why. Here's what we do know. So former White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt was on a recent episode as a guest of actually, this is during last Friday's real time with Bill Maher. And Marr didn't refer to Trump or during this conversation during this episode, Bill Mar referred to Trump as half sane.
Starting point is 01:48:58 So maybe that's what bothered him. Trump about Mar and maybe that's why he wrote the manifesto. But during the monologue, he also talked about Vivek Ramoswamy's ad, attacking Amy Acton, basically using Amy Acton's disgusting, grotesque mother that she's been estranged from for decades because she sat back and allowed her husband to sexually assault her. Later, she loses custody of Amy Acton. Amy Acton's biological father ends up taking full custody of Amy and her brother. Anyway, like, that ad is so disgusting on so many different levels. And Trump has decided to support Ramoswamy in putting that ad out. J.D. Vance, the vice president,
Starting point is 01:49:45 also supported the ad, totally disgusting. But Bill Maher, to his credit, I guess, I mean, I think it's a freaking, what is it called in basketball? A layup. It's a layup to condemn the ad. So Bill Maher condemns the ad. And I think Trump might have lost his temper over that. And so let's get to this. Actually, let me give you a little bit of what Bill Maher said.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Bill Maher said Trump said this is fair game. A 12-year-old rape victim is fair game. I know that looks bad. It sounds better on a birthday card to Jeffrey Epstein. And later, when it came to the dinner, Mar also referenced that saying, quote, we have a nice conversation and he goes, you're my enemy. Pass the peas. I mean, he will say that.
Starting point is 01:50:28 You're my enemy. And then a minute later, we're just talking normally and we didn't act like enemies. And to be clear, Mar said on the show that he liked the dinner, he had a great time. And he did previously describe Trump as gracious and measured. But it doesn't matter. Trump writes this like long dissertation, anti-Bill-Mar dissertation. I'm not going to read you all of it because it was like literally 1,323 words long. That's insane.
Starting point is 01:51:01 Okay, so I'll give you a few pieces of it. He says, let's talk about the complete and total loser, Bill Maher. I mean, so far I agree. He's got a low-rated show on equally low-rated HBO, which was once long ago a network of quality and excitement, but that's all gone. It's not hot anymore. Mars friend and business associate, Chuck LaBella, was also a friend of mine, worked on the top hit show, The Apprentice. Over the last few years, by the way, LaBella catching strays, right, Bill Maher's producer catching strays, LaBella would call me nonstop to say, hello, be very nice and tell me how much Bill Maher loves and
Starting point is 01:51:42 respects me and would constantly ask of me even when I was president for any form of meeting with Mar and would I do his show? When I became president, I agreed to meet after the first one and the last one, but never agreed to do his show, which he wants me to do desperately. It won't happen. Do you want me to keep going, Jank? Like, it's just ravings of a total lunatic. Yeah. So look, I mean, I love it and they're both right in their criticism of each other. I know, I know. They're both terrible. It's great.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Yeah. So my guess is to why Bill Maher, look, I credit and discredit. So the discredit is my guess is why Bill Maher likes Donald Trump and says all the positive things he does about Trump, both apparently behind the scenes at the dinner and oftentimes on air, is because Trump started a war for Israel. So he's like, well, I mean, gotta love that, right? And so he doesn't like his other policies. And I'll give Mark credit, he will tell you both of those things.
Starting point is 01:52:50 And that's definitely positive. And in terms of being able to criticize both sides and being able to eat with someone and then say, yeah, they're right about this, but terribly wrong about that. And so, you know, I don't agree with him about Israel and his over the top bigotry against Muslims. But at least he's authentic about it. I mean, he definitely hates Muslims and he doesn't mind being a bigot at all. And he doesn't mind that 22,000 Palestinian children have been murdered in Gaza. He pretty much celebrates it.
Starting point is 01:53:21 So he is authentically a terrible person. But, but, you know, he does say, yeah, he likes, you know, what Israel's doing and he thinks it's wonderful. And he doesn't like what Trump is doing about other things. And so at least there's a, you know, silver lining there for. For Mar, Trump, on the other hand, is like, do you like me? Bill's saying he likes me in the wars I start. I like Bill a lot, okay? Oh, Bill says something not nice about me on a different topic. I hate Bill Maher. Oh, my God. Low quality, low ratings. It's exhausting. I mean, we've heard this feel a million times. He's so desperate for validation and admiration. And like the slightest jab, he just melts. And it's so pathetic. He's the president of the United States. It's so. I gotta give you a few more excerpts, actually, because it is kind of funny. So he starts taking jabs at Bill Maher over his marijuana use, as if, like, Bill Maher isn't, like, super proud of his marijuana use.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Like, he does it openly on his own podcast. But anyway, he says, also, I wanted to tell Bill that he's a major pothead. Okay, let's pause for a second. So Donald Trump famously is totally sober. But, like, what's your excuse then, seriously? Like you're not abusing any type of substance. That's what your sober mind is like. Okay.
Starting point is 01:54:41 At least Mar is high. Seriously. So he continues. He's got to stop. It's very bad for his health. He looked like hell this time. Well, you both look like hell. Okay, let's just keep it 100.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Bill was drunk and had alcohol in his hand. As he walked through the White House, Stephen A and Kid Rock came along with And then that was a rule, I don't care. I don't care that he was drinking, okay? He was drinking, who cares? And no, Kid Rock probably was the model of sobriety. Right, right, totally.
Starting point is 01:55:18 That's who I think of what I think about sobriety. Yep. And then he ended his diatribe with this. You're not transformative. You're a loser. I never watched your show much, but I will never watch it again because it is nothing more than fake news that America and the world is unfortunately subject. to, thank you for your attention to this matter.
Starting point is 01:55:40 You watch his show every time. Yeah. Like, like obvious, like you just told on yourself. And you want constant admiration. It's so sad and so pathetic. So anyway, they both suck. And I hope they keep fighting. Yeah, but you know what?
Starting point is 01:55:59 I hate to do this. No, don't do it. No, don't do it. Just don't do it then. Okay, all right. Let's frame it this way, then. Trump is more at fault, okay? So, like, you know, you say, I don't watch a show much.
Starting point is 01:56:11 That means you watch it every time. Okay, I'm not watching anymore. Who cares? Like, what is that going to affect the ratings? Like, you're one person. So, like, he's a child. Guys, it's super obvious he's a child. And so Bill Maher is evil in, you know, in his hatred of Muslim,
Starting point is 01:56:34 and Arabs and Palestinians. But Trump is more evil because he's financing the genocide and he started a giant war in the Middle East on behalf of Israel. And he doesn't have any of the redeeming policy positions of Bill Maher. And he doesn't have some of the honesty of Bill Maher. So, like, you don't have to pick a guy who's worse here. But if you're asking me as a guy who loaves Bill Maher, and I've been pretty clear about that on the record here. Trump is definitely worse in this case. And remember, Bill Maher is just
Starting point is 01:57:08 a propagandist on HBO. Whereas Donald Trump is the president of the United States and the commander in chief. That is much more problematic that we have a petulant child as our president. Okay, I agree with you on that. And shockingly, we have time left. So I want to move on to the AOC story. I'm amazed that we can do it. Go take it away, Jake. Let's do it. Okay. So AOC, AOC, was getting a lot of credit from the left, but disdain from establishment media when she was fighting against Nancy Pelosi doing sit-ins and pushing the Green New Deal. Now that she's decided to be nice to her coworkers, as she calls them, and has decided to give a lot of money to moderate Democrats and promise to never challenge them, all of a sudden, Establisha Media is very happy,
Starting point is 01:57:57 but her base beginning to be unhappy. Anna, tell us about that. Calculations are being made. Political aspirations take the front seat. And well, the Wall Street Journal wrote about this and provided some examples. Now look, I want to just be clear about one thing. There were examples provided of AOC working with people on the other side of the aisle in order to try to pass legislation that the left wants, that Americans in general left, right, doesn't matter. So for instance, we all want members of Congress to stop trading individuals. stocks because obviously they're engaging in insider trading and they are voting on legislation based on, you know, their incentives in the stock market. So I am perfectly happy to see AOC work with Republicans across the aisle in getting that type of legislation passed. Now, it hasn't passed. She tried. But I am not at all taking jabs at her for working on that type of legislation. That being said, you know, she came in. She was elected. She was the Democratic challenger to the incumbent Democrat because people were sick of the corporate Democrats, essentially paying lip service to voters while actually looking out for their corporate donors. And she did come in as a rebel, but if you look at her today, she's very different. So Accio-Cortez has sought to become a team player. In the past, she backed primary challenges to Democratic incumbent. she now contributes to the party committee that boosts campaigns of vulnerable lawmakers,
Starting point is 01:59:31 including those who in the past have criticized her far left ideas, at least far left in the way that the Wall Street Journal is describing it. So ahead of the midterm election, she has so far brought in more than $37 million. She's a top fundraiser for the Democratic Party for sure. And, you know, this is according to the federal election commission filings. And her political aspirations have always been kind of clear. So right now there's this big debate going on about whether or not she's seeking to replace Chuck Schumer in the Senate or if she's looking to run for president in 2028. She denies it all. I don't believe her.
Starting point is 02:00:11 Who knows? We'll see what happens. But previously, she really wanted a leadership position that she was denied. So Acosio-Cortez wanted a seat as the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee and said she would stop campaigning against. colleagues, she still failed to get the position in part because Nancy Pelosi, Mama Bear, had built support for an opponent. So you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. Now, rather than fight the establishment, she has acquiesced. In fact, that day, AOC contributed $280,000 to the House Democrats campaign arm. And since then, she hasn't supported any challengers to
Starting point is 02:00:51 the Democratic incumbents in the House. And she continues to endorse. the corrupt Hakeem Jeffries for the next speaker of the House should Democrats take over, which they very likely will. And that didn't go well with the, you know, DSA or the left flank of the Democratic Party. But the real question here, Jank, is whether or not this is actually going to help her with her political aspirations moving forward. Do you think she's going to move up the political ladder by making these types of calculations, or do you think it's eventually just going to hurt her? So she's trying what she considers to be the Obama path, which is promise, change, and hope,
Starting point is 02:01:33 but secretly tell the establishment both the politicians and the media, wink, wink, don't worry, I'm on your side. We're not going to change anything. Yeah, and that did work a couple of decades ago. I don't think it's going to work today, partly because the internet catches everyone. And she was in the middle of getting caught so hard. The Wall Street Journal tripped over it and found it. To be fair, you know, good article, really solid article doing real reporting here. And so she's funneling tens of millions of dollars to the establishment Democrats.
Starting point is 02:02:07 She's the number one donor in the whole Democratic Party to other Democrats. That sounds pretty good. And in Washington, that's considered the greatest thing ever, right? But she's funneling all this money to corporate Democrats that are totally opposed to our agenda. How does that help? So people are definitely frustrated by that. No, that's withering away her base. Her constant like, oh, Biden and Kamala Harris are totally a-okay on Israel and Gaza.
Starting point is 02:02:34 No, they weren't. That's whittling down her base. And, you know, you might think she didn't get anything when she said that she won't campaign against her colleagues and she didn't get the oversight committee, but she actually did get something. She got faunting coverage from mainstream media. And that's what she was seeking, and that's what she received by being a good, you know, follower of orders. But one more thing, Anna, that's important.
Starting point is 02:03:00 Why did she want the oversight committee? Because they often say like, oh, you need to be on a committee to pass a bill. No, the oversight committee is the one that's going to investigate Trump and all the corruption. Should the Democrats win the House, it would have given her tremendous camera time opposing Trump, which would have been fantastic for her campaign. That's why she wanted the oversight committee so bad. Yeah, that's actually a really great point that doesn't get made enough, right? You would want to be in the committee that makes a lot of the decisions about where the money is going to be spent.
Starting point is 02:03:34 As someone who's the left wing or part of the left wing flank at the Democratic Party. Anyway, what's up for the revolution today? All right, we have a great guest coming up who is on fire in social media talking about how we need to make changes. We're going to talk about that. Give you a little bit more of an update on the rebellion pack ad as well. So stay right here. Let's do a revolution. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 02:03:55 On the revolution, we start off on a nice note, woman AF. Thank you for gift to 10 young tourist memberships. You can do that. Or you could join, hit the join button below. By the way, Cliff Campin, thank you for the very significant generosity on Super Chat. He said, throw this money into the sponsorship for Election Day. Appreciate it, Cliff. Okay, now let's bring in a guess, and we'll talk about a lot of things, including the new Rebellion Pack ad that's out. His name is Kasim Mershid. He's a Pakistani-born American human rights lawyer, serious host.
Starting point is 02:08:00 He ran for Congress in Illinois' 11th, Illinois' 11th Congressional District in 2024 and is now a content creator. Kossum, welcome, brother. How are you doing? Good to be here, man. How are you? Good, good, good. So, Kossum, there's a lot to talk about in American politics, which you're covering. Let's start with this, right? So we see so often, and today's kind of a spectacular example of it, almost everyone in media constantly complaining about anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 02:08:33 If you criticize Israel in any way, every way is illegal, every way is illegal, every way is, is a trope, there is no legitimate way of criticizing Israel, the entire things are minefield, right? And so we, for example, my group Rebellion Pack released an ad that you did a video about recently and instantly they were like, well, everything in the ad is true, but we're gonna call you an anti-Semite and cancel you anyway. Meanwhile, people say the most bigoted things against Muslims nonstop, and it seems like the media couldn't care less. So, you know, talk to me me about that phenomenon and how frustrating that is. It's something you look, and I've said this long before, you know, anti-Semitism obviously
Starting point is 02:09:16 exists and there's real examples of anti-Semitism. We've seen attacks on Jewish cemeteries on synagogues. That to me is anti-Semitism. That to me is indefensible and it's disgusting. I remember when I lived in Philadelphia in nearby synagogue was attacked and a cemetery was destroyed and I activated my local Muslim community to go out and get there as as possible to help clean up. And we'll always do that.
Starting point is 02:09:39 What we're talking about with Israel is not anti-Semitism. Israel is committing genocide. It's an apartheid state. I've been there myself. I've seen it firsthand. And you contrast, I mean, even now, I don't know if you saw this junk, but Netanyahu posts a picture of a nuclear weapon detonating. And then New York Times reports that he wants to attack Iran before the Israeli elections.
Starting point is 02:10:03 This man has 200 nuclear weapons. nuclear weapons might add, and he's posting from his official account of a nuclear holocaust and then saying we should attack Iran. I mean, if this was Hamas doing this, it would be a five alarm fire. They would do genocide, start a new genocide. They haven't finished this one yet. But you contrast that with Donald Trump and Mike Rogers and Randy Fine and, you know, all these right-wing net jobs, just saying the most grotesque and disgusting things about Somalis and about Abdul Al-Slanad and Zaron Mbani. It's like, oh, well, that's just free speech. If you don't like free speech, just leave this country.
Starting point is 02:10:40 The hypocrisy and the double standards are devastating. It's disgusting. It's violent. And I think it's important that we have these platforms to call this out and ask people to recognize that this is not about Muslims versus Jews versus Christians versus believers or nonbelievers. This is actually about all of us. Muslim, Jews, Christians, believers, nonbelievers working together to uphold justice, to combat these billionaire elites that want,
Starting point is 02:11:06 us to fight one another in these culture wars. And the more successful they are, the worse off we are. But if we can remember about the importance of standing together against Islamophobia and anti-Semitism in one like false swoop, we're all better off for it. Yeah. So we're already doing that, right? Because for example, 61% of Jewish Americans are against Israel's war crimes. They think they have committed to war crimes.
Starting point is 02:11:34 I think the main problem, certainly the main problem is not the American people. The American people are ready to unite. I've never seen the right and the left more ready to unite than against this war and against foreign governments control over America. Of course, our number one problem, in my opinion, and what I want to ask you about is the media. It's not even the politicians. Because the politicians, yes, they control the purse strings.
Starting point is 02:11:58 They're the ones who give infinite money, endless money to Israel after they've been bribe. But if there was an effective press that pointed out the bribery and then pointed out why they were giving endless money for war and genocide in the Middle East, then the American people could unite against it. But it feels like the job of the press to sue the exact opposite. And again, I'll use the Rebellion Pack ad that we ran over the weekend as an example here, because we showed the ad before. In fact, you know what, let me show the audience the ad, and then I want to read you a mediate headline about it after we will. Watch. Watch this. We get all the sandwich stuff for the kids lunch. I don't like turkey anymore.
Starting point is 02:12:38 Yeah, I know. What about the bananas? Yeah, I got them too. But honey. What? You're going to have to put those eggs back. They don't like eggs anymore? No, they like eggs. But we have to sit that $7 aside for killing Palestinians. What? I mean, don't we give Israel $4 billion a year anyways? Yeah. And now we're giving them another $26 billion. Do you know how much that is per American taxpayer? No. It's like $161 per person. Apparently it's costing us a lot of money to drop bombs on Gaza.
Starting point is 02:13:14 It's terrible. Yeah. I don't think it universal health care too? Yeah, they do. We're paying for that too probably. Might as well put the bananas back. Why the fuck do we have to pay for all of this? Don't cuss at me.
Starting point is 02:13:31 Why does Mike Rogers care so much? about what Israelis want and so little about what you want. Mike Rogers is for they them. Abdul and Sayed is for you. So Qasem, as you can see that and never mentioned Jewish people because the majority of Jewish people as we said are on our side about Israel's war crimes. It's about the foreign government of Israel. So here's the headline for media that just came out a couple of minutes ago. Just representative of a lot of lot of the media, they write disgusting in quotes, colon, pro-El Saeed adds sparks avalanche of criticism as campaign distances.
Starting point is 02:14:15 That's not the avalanche I saw over the weekend. I saw an avalanche of incredible praise from the entire internet, but yet when it gets through the prism of mainstream media, that becomes everyone agrees it's terrible and anti-Semitic. Gallup did a poll recently, Jenk, that ranked the trust people have in national and corporate and legacy media. And it's down to like 26%. It's the worst it's been in like the 60, 70 years they've been doing this poll. I think the American people are wising up to the fact that so much of corporate media is owned by these billionaire oligarchs, right? I mean, you've got Jeff Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg, Rupert Murdoch, you know, the list goes on and on of just
Starting point is 02:15:01 billionaires who own these outlets and these outlets have just become mouthpieces for them to maintain the status quo. I thought the ad was edgy, it was sharp, it got the point across, and if you're more offended by the ad than you are by actual genocide, you're going to stop pretending that your pearl clutching is actually doing anything. And I think, again, my fear is that with the lack of trust in corporate media, the lack of existence of local media, there's a vacuum being that exists. And the vacuum is being filled by these right-wing, you know, fascist organizations like Daily Wire or Turning Point USA or Prager or Heritage. it's so much more critical that we support these independent media outlets because at the end of the day,
Starting point is 02:15:50 we need to be able to report. And I think your point is so valid. I'll have another data point about Jewish people supporting our cause for justice for Palestinians and, you know, safety for Jews and Palestinians alike. You know, for as much as a demon as Mayor Mabdani, he's got a 30 point higher approval rating than Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel. And so I think he's a higher proof rating than among Jewish people, then Trump does as well. So we know the message resonates. We know it's effective because it's a message of compassion. It's a message of humanity.
Starting point is 02:16:23 And I think it's critical that we be unapologetic about it. And by the way, those politicians that are being unapologetic about it, they're winning elections, right? I mean, you know, Abdul won his election being outspent 12 to 1 in its primary. And in Shail-La, he was his general. Angie Nixon won her primary being outspent 15 to 1. And she was unapologetic on condemning the Peggy Flanagan, one of her primary being outspent, being unapologetic on genocide.
Starting point is 02:16:48 And I think these are the messages that scare the billionaire elites and which is why they're doubling down and attacking ads like yours because they know they're effective. If they weren't effective, they would let people laugh and just let it go. But people are laughing. People are responding. And so they need to do whatever they can to counter that. And I'm glad that they're failing.
Starting point is 02:17:07 Yeah. So by the way, when you count favorable and unfavorable into account, Zora Mamdani is 32 points more highly favored among Jewish Americans than Benjamin Netanyahu is. Now if you watched American television and read the papers, you would never know that. You would think that it was the exact opposite. Because whenever there's like a vicious radical Zionist, our media says they represent all Jews. Then they have Jewish people and they say, no, they don't. They go, shut up you Jewish people.
Starting point is 02:17:39 You're all anti-Semites if you don't agree with the most radical Zionist. It sounds like actually the media is the bunch of anti-Semites pretending that Jewish Americans are all in favor of this genocide and these war crimes. But that's the power of the purse and the power of media. Once they have these multi-billion dollar organizations, they can lie ad nauseum and their biggest lie is we're the objective ones. Are you? No, no.
Starting point is 02:18:06 And I'll add another point of that, Jenk. If you look at the anti-Muslim hate that's just become normalized, how often do you see an actual Muslim American commentator on these cable TV shows? You don't. They'll talk about us ad nauseum. They will pontificate about us. They'll bring on some liberal to talk about us, which great, but they're often ill-equipped to counter the disinformation, but they won't actually have us on.
Starting point is 02:18:34 I can tell you, you know, if I look at all the times I've gone on cable TV, you know, if I look at all the times have gone on cable TV. I've been invited more on Fox News than all the other so-called liberal leftist stations combined, which is well. And I went on Fox News because I think you got to meet people where they are. And I'll tell you what, I got plenty of emails from people that were nasty. And I got plenty of emails with people saying, hey, I'm a conservative, but I appreciate you coming on. I now better understand how to spot the disinformation about Muslims and about your faith. It's rare. I can probably count on one hand how many times I was invited on by CNN or CB. or MSNBC or NBC or MSN, now, whatever these stations are.
Starting point is 02:19:10 And it's a shame. It's an absolute shame because they're supposed to be the ones that are, you know, designed to counter the right-wing disinformation, but they won't allow that platform. They'll talk about us. They'll certainly allow people to come on and spew anti-Muslim hate, but they will never allow us to respond. And for viewers, I always give this litmus test that if you don't think that anti-Muslim hate is that bad, because anytime they're saying something about Muslims, just replace Muslim
Starting point is 02:19:37 with Jewish person or black person or gay person or any other underrepresented community. And I guarantee you'll be able to see why it's so problematic to dehumanize people this way. Yep. So I mean, again, I'll back up all the things that you're saying. We have 32 million subscribers on the TYT network. I'm banned on all three cable news networks. Why? We've seen thousands of pro-Israel pundits, but no pro-Palestinian pundits. and their objective, that doesn't make any sense. It's just empirically untrue.
Starting point is 02:20:10 Cable news is deeply, deeply biased. None of them are objective. They're not even trying to be objective. How many times are we heard on television, does Israel have a right to exist when it already exists? Yet, the real question is, does Palestine have a right to exist? And that question has literally never been asked on American television. So their bias is preposterous.
Starting point is 02:20:32 And then they really, in their deluded, nearly insane minds, really believe, oh, we are the objective ones. Objectively, of course, Israel has all of the rights and I should get all of your money. And if you ever object to Israel taking your money, you're an anti-Semite. Now let's talk about those disgusting Muslims and how we should bomb them and occupy them. Come on, man. It's full mask off. They're not even bothering to wear the hoods. So I will give a shout out to Amen, Mohi, Dean.
Starting point is 02:21:01 I think Amin does a phenomenal job. And I hope that he doesn't get canned like they did to Medi Hassan and a few others. But I think Amin is like one of the few voices out there who's consistent on this. And speaking over Palestine, he's done an excellent job. I think he's a journalist whose career I followed for a decade. And he's consistently on point. He keeps it 100. I give him credit.
Starting point is 02:21:20 But again, exceptions prove the rule. And the fact that we can literally point on one finger who's out there in that space is a problem. Yeah. You know, if you want to go nuts, you could include Ali Valshi, too. Right? Yeah, that's fair. So that's two versus 2000. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:36 Okay, all right. So hey, are we not merciful? So, Qasim, I'm curious. So how did you get into this? You're a human rights lawyer. How did you wind up becoming content creator? Yeah, I don't even think I can't set myself a content creator. I've been in this space for a long time.
Starting point is 02:21:52 Look, I was a 19 year old brown bearded Muslim when 9-11 happened. And as you know, you remember 9-11. suddenly you speak for all Muslims, for all immigrants, for all brown people. And I think for me, my earliest advocacy, public advocacy, real public advocacy began in the days after. You could go back and find, if you're an internet sleuth, you can find letters of the editor I published in the months and years after 9-11, combating anti-Muslim hate, anti-immigrant hate. And as social media kind of grew and developed, I just kind of grew and developed with that. I saw it as a means to combat disinformation. And I think law school in the 2000s, I've been out of law school 15 years now.
Starting point is 02:22:37 Law School really helped kind of refine and hone my research skills, my academic skills. I've published half a dozen academic law review articles, combating the anti-Sheria movement, combating racial discrimination, systemic white supremacy, kind of you name it. And so I come at this not as somebody who's trying to get clicks and likes and shares as a content creator, nothing wrong with that. I really come at this as an academic as someone who's a legal scholar who tries to analyze these, you know, the situations that we're in and figure out what's the best way forward. How do I take these complex legal cases and break them down so that people can understand them? You know, I think one thing about the left, the Democratic Party, does a really crappy job of avoiding sounding elite. And so I try to make sure that the stuff I put out there is accessible and genuine and authentic.
Starting point is 02:23:27 And I've been fortunate to have amazing mentors and teachers. I've been fortunate to build a big platform and to be effective in my messaging and get out there. But to me, the most exciting thing is how do we shift you over into the window? You know, for me, it's not about like, I don't care if something goes viral or not. For me, it's how do we change the narrative? And, you know, I think what we're seeing happening with Israel, Palestine is a good example of how. we're changing the narrative. It's tragic and beyond horrifying that has taken a genocide for people to pay attention. But your ad, for example, Jenk, is one that I could not have dreamed
Starting point is 02:24:02 of being so well received even two years ago. And now it's literally the most popular ad out there. And so for me, this really is how do we take these concepts of human rights, of justice, of equity, of accountability, of due process, make them accessible, make them popular, want to be engaged with and then build a movement that way. That's kind of my whole focus. And so far so good, long way to go. But I feel like we're in a good place right now. So to your point about how unfortunately, bigotry against Muslims has grown rather than receded in this country. So around 9-11, the number was around 26%. And now 51% of Americans, according to Pew Research, say that they think Islam encourages violence and 43% view Muslims as less patriotic.
Starting point is 02:24:57 Now that thought got into their head somehow. Now what happened in reality in the history of the Middle East, the recent history is Israel came in, did an ethnic cleansing campaign in 1948, drove out 750,000 Palestinians after slaughtering a great number of them. But our media said, no, it was the Arabs who attacked Israel. It's just flat out lies, right? And then Israel attacked in 1967, but our media said that, oh, well, they had to do it in self-defense and that it's really the Arabs' fault.
Starting point is 02:25:30 And then just nonstop propaganda against Muslims. So is it our media that is so deeply bigoted that purposely drove up those numbers to help Israel with their propaganda of Americans hating Muslims so that we would pay for Israel to bomb and occupy Muslims. I think the data, you know, there's a, I think it's a social media platform website that if Americans knew that, you know, the data is devastating. I mean, it's undeniable. And this is what I say to folks that, look, Israel is either the only democracy in the
Starting point is 02:26:10 Middle East or it's a Jewish state. It can't be both. If it's a Jewish state, if it's an ethno state, then by definition, it's not a democracy, and you're admitting that it is an apartheid state. If it is the only democracy in the Middle East, then it's not a Jewish state. And criticism of it can't be anti-Semitic, and we need to ensure every person has equal rights. But it doesn't do that. So it's an apartheid state.
Starting point is 02:26:31 Either way, you lose. But you go a step further, and you look at the actual devastation and destruction imposed upon the Middle East by these Western wars, at the coaxing of someone like Netanyahu. People forget the role he played in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, the illegal invasion of Iraq that killed nearly a million people by some estimates more. There's a Brown University study that's public and available that estimates that since 1990, Western wars have killed between 4.5 and 4.7 million Muslims in the Middle East. That's another Holocaust, but we never talk about it. Most people don't even know about it. And yeah, I mean, I think corporate media, legacy media has played a significant, a major role.
Starting point is 02:27:14 in this space, but I'm not willing to let the conversation end there. I want to go a step further and hold accountable those who are pushing out that disinformation on the left and the right. One common one that I'm sure Jack you've heard before is Bill Clinton talking about how he gave Arafat everything he wanted and he said no because he wanted to kill Israelis. And it's just, it's utter nonsense. I mean, Shlomo Ben Amin, Israel's own foreign minister at the time, a lead negotiator said, yeah, it was a terrible deal. I was never put in writing. I wouldn't have taken it myself. And so you have these politicians backed up by corporate
Starting point is 02:27:46 media putting out just grotesque disinformation. And and to your point, anytime somebody becomes very critical of Netanyahu of the Israeli government, rather than engage in thoughtful exercise or discourse, either they're banned from these platforms or
Starting point is 02:28:02 the accusation of bigotry or racism is levied without any facts presented. And I say all this, as I led up my comments. because I know someone's going to try to cut this up and put it out there. I say all this recognizing that anti-Semitism is real, but I will never ever accept the argument that criticism of a government or of a state is anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 02:28:24 States don't have rights. Governments don't have rights. They're called human rights for a reason. Humans have rights. Jewish people are human. They have rights. And hatred of Jewish people for being Jewish is wrong and indefensible. But you will never convince me that condemning genocide by the Israeli government is somehow wrong.
Starting point is 02:28:40 In fact, it's immoral to be silent on that. And so that's kind of the way I view things that it's a fusion of corporate media and political elites who want to maintain the status quo. That's what we're up against. And frankly, while it's been a painful 80-year existence here, the suffering of the Palestinian people, I do see a bend towards justice. And I think our job is to continue to push towards that justice by continuing to double down on the facts and the on the ground reality.
Starting point is 02:29:11 Yeah, so I wanna end in a minute on talking about that fight for justice and what happens next. Just real quick on the things that you mentioned, I wanted to say, first of all, two things can be true at the same time. There could be anti-Semitism in the country and then charges of anti-Semitism can be weaponized and used against Israel's opponents. And if you had me guess at the level of real anti-Semitism versus weaponized charges of anti-Semitism, got it at least 20 to one fake weaponized charges of anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 02:29:43 But that's a different topic. And I'm sure they would say, oh, that's outrageous. But I despise mainstream media. There are a bunch of liars. And they're the ones who weaponize the charges in the first place. So they have zero credibility on this issue. They're the ones who spread toxic, poisonous, bigotry against Muslims my whole life. So they have no like to stand on at all.
Starting point is 02:30:04 If we're us on the left, if our Jewish brothers and sisters are actually endangered, we'd be the first people to go and help them. Because we believe in true equality and don't care about religion, race, ethnic background at all. And one more thing about the Oslo Accords, the whole thing was fake. So U.S. negotiators, you know, the negotiator, you mentioned several of them said this is outrageous. The Israelis offered garbage, right? And do you want to know who the head of the Oslo Corps was, the guy who arranged it? It was Jeffrey Epstein's best friend, and Epstein left him $10 million in his will for an excellent, historic piece of propaganda done extraordinarily well.
Starting point is 02:30:49 So they could constantly say, well, we offer the Palestinians peace. And guess what? They didn't take our offer, right? So all of it is true. And I'll add, if anybody doubts that offer of peace, look at it. what's happening with the Israeli elections right now. Every party is running on the platform of we will not allow a Palestinian state. They are falling over each other to convince voters that if they vote for them, they'll be at the forefront of not allowing a Palestinian state to ever come into
Starting point is 02:31:16 existence and to then further expand this violent settler, you know, colonialization project over the West Bank. I mean, they're telling you, screaming into microphones that they're going to continue to colonize Palestine and kill innocent Palestinians. And we're supposed to pretend that this is, you know, a democracy, it's not said, that's apartheid, let's be honest about it. Yeah, I mean, and they always talk about, well, there's Arabs inside Israel. Well, how about the five and a half million Palestinians outside of Israel in the occupied West Bank and Gaza's trip? Where is their democracy, right?
Starting point is 02:31:46 But our media goes, yeah, but they're not humans, so we're not going to count them. We're only going to count the Israelis and we're so worried about bigotry. No, you're not worried about bigotry, you are the bigots. So now in that element and environment of massive, injustice still to this day and propaganda disguised as news. And all of our politicians taking money, 94% of them taking money from the Israeli lobby and Israel winning every single vote in Congress, I'm sure not related. How do you see the future, right?
Starting point is 02:32:21 On the other hand, you've got this uprising online and not just from the left, but from the left, the right, the middle. And so how does this come to a head and what do you think is a conclusion? I see it's still getting worse before it gets better because I think as long as this menace is in the White House and then Yahoo is in the prime minister's seat they're going to try something evil or violence so I don't put that past them so I still see it potentially getting much worse
Starting point is 02:32:47 but I'm hopeful that by 28 by 29 we are able to move in a better direction and the signs for that we're seeing up and down the ballot we're seeing people run on a platform independent of APAC. We're even seeing Republicans tell APAC stay out of my race as too toxic. Here in Illinois, in the congressional primary, APAC spent $30 million and won, only two or three seats out of it, and they didn't even run under their own name because it's become so toxic. So I'm seeing, I'm seeing progress. I think what I want to encourage folks to do is, one, not by the hype
Starting point is 02:33:22 that it's unchangeable, it's absolutely changeable. And two, recognize that you have way more power than you're led to believe. You get involved locally. You get involved in local city council and to show up to those meetings and speak of those meetings. We will have a massive difference. And we know this.
Starting point is 02:33:38 This is not just me trying to be motivational. If you look at one reason that the U.S. divested from apartheid South Africa, Reagan was in favor of supporting apartheid South Africa. Congress was not willing to go against him. But you had over a thousand municipalities divest from apartheid South Africa. Those municipalities led up to the state legislatures,
Starting point is 02:33:57 led up to the federal government and finally forced the hand of the president. This was a grassroots effort. So if you really want to see meaningful change here, you start at the local level, you activate your local level, your local communities. We see in New York City, the comptroller or whatever his title is, is no longer buying his early bonds. That would have been unthinkable even two or three years ago, but we're seeing that progress. So, Jack, I genuinely fear it's going to get worse before it gets better because when
Starting point is 02:34:24 people who commit genocide are cornered, they're going to become even more violent. but I'm also a hopeless optimist. And I look at the American people, whether they're Republicans or Democrats, and I see hope, I see progress. And I'm hopeful that when my kids are, not even my age, but just five, 10 years older, we'll see a very different future
Starting point is 02:34:43 where there's not the kind of corrupting money in politics that we see now. We have a meaningful step forward towards that more perfect union that the founders of this country contemplated. Do we ever end our alliance with Israel? I never say never. I mean, I think it seems impossible, but I think, you know, because you even hear quotes
Starting point is 02:35:04 from like Nancy Pelosi, who said that if the halls of Congress felt the only standing pillars would be our alliance with Israel. But now you have her saying it's time to end this, you know, unquestioned military aid. I'm hopeful that we begin to treat Israel like we do any other country. And that is on the tenets of international human rights law of absolute. justice and accountability. The Leahy laws exist for a reason. Blinken lied to Congress. Let's be honest about it when he said that they weren't violating the Leahy laws. I think once we have people in power who are willing to uphold true due process of law,
Starting point is 02:35:39 hold accountable people like Blinken, people in the Biden administration who flat out lied to the American people, people of the Trump administration who continue to lie to the American people. And there's consequences for these war crimes. I think we'll begin to see a new lead turn. And I'm excited to make that happen. Kossum, where can people find you? I'm at Kostin Rashid. Just my name across all platforms. My substack is at Kostim Rashid.com.
Starting point is 02:36:02 You can become a paid subscriber. I have no paywall, so you don't get any magical new content for being a paid subscriber. You just get to support someone who's doing his best to fight for human rights for all people. All right, Kossam Rashid, thank you so much for joining us. Really appreciate it, brother. Thanks, brother. Next time. All right, before we go, I'm gonna tell you a poll you can participate in.
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