The Zach Nichols Podcast - All Stars 4 EP. 12 Review w/ Cara Maria! | ZNP EP. 50

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, it's Kar Maria. I'm on the Zach Nichols podcast and oh my god, you're not going to want to miss this because we talk everything from All Stars 4, War the Worlds 2, all kinds of shit buried in the past that we're bringing up again. And I've had a lot of tequila. So you're going to want to tune in. Welcome back to the Zach Nichols podcast. I'm here with my co-host, Mr. Zach Nichols. You're so rude. I'm always rude when we have a guest because I introduce you first. Yep. Well, I'm here with Rufio and Thudbutt. You know what, Cara, welcome back, not to the show or Detroit, but welcome back to the challenge. Welcome back to the challenge. Even me in those seasons that you were not around, I was like, there's something missing. There is. And there is something missing because my introduction, I have to give her the right introduction.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Do you mind? Do you mind? Okay. Sitting next to me, the lovely, beautiful, gorgeous 14-time challenger, two. wins, including nine finals, Miss Cara Maria Sorvello in the building. I liked Rufio and Thudbutt. Much
Starting point is 00:01:08 better. No, you got to know your audience. You got to know, hey, you guys have the history to know that. Rumor has it that you have an alter ego that he invented. Is that true? Carl. You didn't cry, though. What? Remember the whole? So, on Vendettas,
Starting point is 00:01:24 I called Kara Carl, and I called Kayla Kevin for the entirety of that season. And we were two days before the final And all of a sudden, Kayla starts crying And she goes, everyone in America Is gonna think that I was born a man And Kara was like, it was on the bus
Starting point is 00:01:41 And I was like, I broke her And Kara was like, welcome to the club, Kayla. Yeah. Because I called her So I called Kara Carl Because she was like my little brother. And you've taken that moniker And ran with it. Is that true?
Starting point is 00:01:58 That's actually occasionally I dress up in drag and I am Carlo Mario I don't got it all you give me credit for that I do I'm like that I'm like I can't come up I can't be another name when I'm my ultra ego because I am in forever will always be Carl
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yep Carl I love that call me Carl I love that right Much less attractive as a man in my opinion I'm just playing you're attractive anyway Even in drag Go on I'm already here you don't get to keep flattering me
Starting point is 00:02:27 That's exactly the time where I start is when you're here on this couch. Okay, so before we get into this episode of All-Stars 4 finale, I just want to say, we are so excited to have you in San Diego. We're going to bring the house down. Are you ready for that? I'm so excited. Yeah, I'm super socially awkward. So have my Jameson ready. And I will, I'm very excited to be there for you guys. We're going to be drinking. We're going to be thanking. We're going to be doing all that good stuff. So make sure you go get your tickets, San Diego, July 27th. You're going to be there? No, maybe. I don't know. It just depends. I don't know. I might have some shit going. Bring your golf clubs.
Starting point is 00:03:00 By the way, that shirt is badass. Can you tell us about that shirt? Happy Father's Day, buddy. Yep. Oh, thank you because I am your daddy on the golf course. Good. Fuck you. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:03:08 This motherfucker. So I got this for Father's Day. I hate that so much. It should say best by bogey because I'm the three putt slut. I get on and put it in the whole third time. I get on and one and two and then I'm always a bogey. Three putt slut. That's great.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Great shirt. Love all the kids. Big shout out to Jenna. She got you that shirt? No, the kids did. Oh, they did? Yeah, Anthony's two, and he got online and used his own credit. No, Jenna got me the shirt.
Starting point is 00:03:34 J-CN. Jenna Capono-Nicles love you. Thank you for getting in the shirt. She's not hyphenated. She's just Compono. Shut up, man. All right. No, she's not.
Starting point is 00:03:41 She's not not hyphenated. What is it? All right. She was like, do you mind if I don't switch my last name? I was like, yeah, I don't care. That's fine. What doesn't bother me? Yeah, you're masculine.
Starting point is 00:03:48 The kids are Nichols, though. They're not hyphenated. Damn straight. Okay. So they're also born in Michigan so they don't think they're better than everyone. Let's Is that a New York? That's a new little nickels.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Yeah, there you go. Look at you, the comedian. That's perfect. Banged a dime, she farted out a couple nickels. It's another way of saying it. Small change, baby, small change. Yeah, the three-putt slot machine with the nickels. I had a boat.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I would name it small change. Okay. But I don't. Be the change. Someday. Be the change. I have changed, Kara. My underwear today, because I sharded.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Zach posted a sharding clip and tag me as if I'm the sharder. You took it that way. I didn't say who was it a sharder. So you're the sharder and I'm the guy you confide? I have sharded in the last year. Of course I have. I trust every fart and I never waste a boner. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:45 When you get older, that's what my grandpa told me. When I turned 35, he was like, hey, Zach. I'm like, he's like, you're getting old. Like, yeah, any advice? He goes, don't trust the fart. Never waste a boner. I live by that. All right, Gramps, thanks you. All right. Let's get into this episode. All-Stars 4 finale. Okay, we come back and it's Derek versus Laurel for that spot in the elimination. Were you surprised that it was Derek and, you know, I was not surprised it was Derek, but I was super surprised that it was Laurel. I didn't, I didn't think she would put herself in that position. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I think the trick was what, what we said, Steve and Veronica were just like, or no, Ace and Veronica were just like, oh, did the shock hurt? What?
Starting point is 00:05:31 When you got shocked by the star? It's just a surprise. I think it's one of those, like if you put it, if you put a dog collar shock, we've done so many shock challenges. Nobody wants to get hurt, and it's that shock that jolts you
Starting point is 00:05:42 and you're like, that's what I liked about is. They were like, Carl's done been shocked before. You're like, huh? You didn't even remember it. I just remember,
Starting point is 00:05:49 are we not allowed to dog? I was just thinking of like, back in the day when like Camilla I was on it. Yeah, you can talk about Camilla. I was on it. I just only remember on the challenge when she kept her hands on the electric fence the entire time. I think it was rivals too just so that she could just kind of what Ace did. She's like, well, I'm not going to keep getting shocked every time if I just keep my hands on it and suck in all the shock, then I'll get to the end.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And I think that one. That was something funny is we saw like, Ace really did drag the shock. It's like is my question is I've never met him. But is Ace really as aloof as he appears? I mean, maybe not. I think he's way smarter than he lets on. But as far as in the house, he was always in the hot tub, walking around the backyard, laying on a couch face down.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And I think with that, he was always able to hear people's conversations because he would almost camouflage. And you wouldn't even care or know if Ace was around. And so people would be having conversations. So he really got a sense or a pulse of what was going on in the house. way more than I had any idea. I'm oblivious. You really are usually pretty oblivious.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Super oblivious. From what I've noticed. Yeah, I am. What's it going out in the house? Yeah. Very obvious. Yeah, you're so in your own world when you're in there. Like, was Ace really the friend that it looked like?
Starting point is 00:07:04 How do you feel about him now? Like, talk to him about your relationship with Ace. Ace is, like, I met him once a long time ago at Flipflops in Atlanta. And when he owned, like, his bars or whatever he was doing. And it was just, you know, he was an, nice guy, didn't think too much of it, walked into the season, was like, oh, that's ace. I remember him, but it wasn't until the second challenge when they were like, pick your partner. And I just kind of stepped back and I was like, well, I guess whoever wants to pick me, like,
Starting point is 00:07:30 whatever. Like I didn't make any moves to pick anybody. And so he's like, we'll be a partner. We by a partner. And I said, okay. And then we started working with each other from then on out. And he just always was a safe space for me. And so in the house, like he never, he, he, He just showed a lot of concern about me, the way people were treating me, that I didn't even see. I was blind to, like, everything or what people were talking about or what was going on. I really was. And, you know, he just always seemed to be very protective of me. And he, you know, and even at the end in the final, when he could have picked Steve,
Starting point is 00:08:05 and I wouldn't have even thought twice about it, if you pick Steve, because whoever you want to pick as, you know, with the fire hose, like, I would have understood, you know. And just like, he was always, even to let me go first. like no this is yours you go first you pick the room just like all the ways that he trusted in me believed in me and was my safe space to come to like i have so much love for ace like you guys don't even understand like he's such a good good man i'm sure our fans are going to love to hear that they know they've been hearing me they've been hating on them just because i'm going to hate on him just because i felt like you're treating us the viewer stupid like we know the manipulation
Starting point is 00:08:42 that you're doing for one the big story about brad and adam going to in and then you know uh him protecting ryan in a weird way over steve who was his boy right i just to me it was always like well this is my place and it's like nah dog you're calculated but i'm sure he is cool he the only thing with ace is like um he's just very very neutral very like pulled away from everything he doesn't want to make any power moves or do anything to hurt anybody's feelings he really is like a mickey mouse like i just love everybody i just want everybody to get along yeah we all just hug and hang out by a campfire and tell you stories I love everybody.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Like that's ace in a nutshell, but I, you know, like, I'm the fire. I'll go in and like say what needs to be done, but, you know, and he's just the kind guy that just backs out of it and does well and challenges and he's just, he just was a really, really good friend to me in that house and I am so thankful
Starting point is 00:09:33 I had him. Do you think that if he had a cockroach in his kitchen, he'd be as nice to it as he was the ones in that final? Because listen, I hate all bugs, so that was, I'm like, dude, it's a cockroach. Everyone hates cockroaches. He's the only one that ate one.
Starting point is 00:09:48 He actually was the only one that went and said, either eat the shit drink or the cockroach that's live and looking at you. He's like, so I'm like, I can't believe he went for the cockroach. Yeah, liquid is so much easier. It was alive. And then I think he felt bad. And I don't think he recovered after that emotionally because he's, I think as he was putting together the pipe puzzle that he could never finish,
Starting point is 00:10:09 and I think he was still thinking about the cockroach that he killed. Well, you can't say shit about eating live things because I watched you eat a live slug with a horn on it in Thailand. I swallowed it. Yeah, you just swallowed like a pill and I was like, that's, I was the only one on our team that was like, kill it. Kill it first. You were so smart to do that. Well, it came when I threw it back to it. It had a, it had a tooth. I didn't see that part. I didn't investigate it that deeply, but I did see that when I threw it back up, it was still alive. It was still alive. No, what are you threw it out? Yeah, so. Still counted. For all you dumb asses that think you can do this challenge shit, you are
Starting point is 00:10:38 fucking mistaken. That's the worst thing I think that I've ever having to swallow something that's alive. Yeah. That's insane. That's insane. Okay. All right. So have you ever been in a final or in a situation where someone who gets eliminated is allowed to affect the outcome of a game? So here's the thing with that. It's not America's fifth sport. It's not we're training for soccer every day.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And we're going to, we know that we're going to go to a soccer match against this team that we've watched a million times and can plan out our moves against them and know how they're going to play. It's not a sport. and it's meant to be so that anybody has a chance. Why would you bring back somebody who's like 50 years old if they didn't have a chance at winning? Like, everybody should have a chance. And I understand it's, to me, it's unfair. Like I would wish that there was no stars given out
Starting point is 00:11:30 and I won based on my performance alone. But what's the performance of a puzzle, like a rock stacking? Like it's the most obscure. How can you base who's the best at anything when it can be anything? So it's kind of a good thing. kind of a bad thing. It's just what the game is.
Starting point is 00:11:46 It's the cards that you're dealt, and you have to do the best with what you're given. And I think that I did the absolute best with what I was given. And that's all I can do. Do you think, though, had you given in to Nicole? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And not turned her down. That years ago, an invasion. Like, we all remember, Nicole wanted you first, and you turned her down. And then she was with Laurel. Laurel, you look good.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Carrey, you look better. So I'm wondering now, Is that a real quote? Yes. Oh, my gosh, Nicole, you dog. Had you just played the game and given Nicole a little slice, you might have gotten her star and Veronica's star. No?
Starting point is 00:12:26 No, I, listen. You're still glad he didn't? Yeah, I know I'm good. You hit him. I am. Yeah, I'm straight. All right. You're not straight, but you're straight.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Okay. That was a half gay final, by the way. I know what Derek was trying to say, but I'm just saying, you had all the girls were gay plus Derek. Yeah, that's a five, five-eighth. It's over 50%. Whatever I am, has he made these, whatever these. Yeah, you get at least a half point for that. I'm
Starting point is 00:12:53 Carl every now and then. I lay it down. Speaking of Derek, if you were a girl. Yeah, if I was a girl, what would your name be? If you had to pick a female name. Whatever Kara thinks is the sexiest name. Yeah, there you go. Thubbuttalina. Then maybe I could get a date with CM over here. Okay, speaking to Derek,
Starting point is 00:13:10 what do you think of Derek? My name is a person. And as a Nancy, you're a Karen or Deborah for sure. We're never going to get through this time. I'm definitely,
Starting point is 00:13:20 welcome to Z&P. This is definitely not a Karen. And I have a cousin named Karen and she's lovely. So I just want everyone to know not all Karen suck. No, there are some good Karen.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Shout out to Karen Bishop, one of our fans too. But, okay, Derek, as a competitor, as a person, what did you think of Derek? Because we'll see you,
Starting point is 00:13:36 but he competed really well, I thought. I didn't remember much of how Derek played or my seasons that I've done with Derek beforehand, but just on All-Stars. That concludes the free preview of the Zach Nichols podcast.
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