The Zach Nichols Podcast - Battle For a New Champion EP. 6 & 7 Review! | ZNP EP. 19

Episode Date: December 4, 2023

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Yeah. Welcome back to the Zach Nichols podcast here with my co-host, Mr. Zach Nichols. You guys are lucky. I almost threw this hammer right through the camera. You got the gavel. No, it's a hammer. It's a hammer. You may play in the NFL, but I have a hammer.

Yeah, well, you know, I am the most interesting man in the world. That's why I keep a hammer. I say top 10. Top 10 most interesting men in the world. I'll take top 10. Because you don't drink those secies. No, I don't. I don't.

But I'll get rocked off the secs one day and get sick. You're not a pilot. I'm not a pilot. I think my dad was. Shut up. Sward of God, you didn't know that? No.

My dad flew for Southwest Airlines or Northwest at the time, Delta now for a long time. Oh man. Your dad's old as shit, man. Yeah, he's old. Delta hasn't been, I mean, Northwest hasn't been around since I was in like fourth grade. Yeah, no, dude. It's been a fucking minute. But he switched careers and made a little living.

That was back when there was astrays in the seat. Oh, yeah, dude, it was perfect. You remember that? When there's ashtrays on the lane? I definitely do. You had the little, the button that, like, slid open. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, I, you know, I tease in.

I said, dad, I was like, you probably had girlfriends in every city. He'd be like, Pierre, he's a Christian guy. He'd get pissed. Well, so he probably didn't, then. Yeah, I don't, I don't think so. But if he did, I'm not going to tell dad. Anyways. Dude, my dad was, my dad was an attractive man.

Oh, dude. He still is. He's a silver fox now. I was going to say. I got a picture of him back when I think he was, like, in his 30s. Yeah. Dude, cut from stone. Dude, when I saw him at the, when I saw him at the, the, uh, the, uh, the gymnastic spot,

I think he had like a cutoff on, just pipes, pipes on his arms. A 60 year old man with pipes, believe that. Oh, yeah, dude. He'd do very well in the open market. Um, we'll move on, uh, to the show. Um, we got a couple episodes to cover. Couple. Yeah, a couple of episodes.

Doolies. Truly doleys. Um, I would love a truly. Oh, man. We might have to order one. Not you, though. No, no, no, no. I'll keep it. Give me a sprite. I'll take spray.

How about a story? A story? Have you had a story yet? I have, yeah. I haven't. Sierra Miss. It's just Sierra, yeah. It's the exact same thing. So we'll start. They come back to the house after Jordan and Kieran's elimination. Challenges are talking about how crazy things are getting.

We see Naris and Horacio. They're a fucking big storyline here. We'll talk to them a lot more. We learn about this somewhat, you know, alliance of Fantastic Four, Nerese. Michelle, Asaf and Jay. You've seen those raps? Asoff and Jay. No, I don't listen to shitty music. I don't.

I watched one of them. Got in 30 seconds in, I felt nauseous like I was going to puke. So I know what to go to if I eat poison. We need to vomit. If anyone in my house needs to puke something up real quick. Just play some of their music. Dude. Yeah, no, I don't.

Not all right with that. a lot so um but they probably they probably named their album boner jams oh three yeah boner jams the best scenes of volume summer so yeah if it was a rapping challenge they would definitely lose they would they would lose for sure um i don't know why they're freaking aligning like like like as if they're going to do something like i'm sorry like they might i mean i don't michel definitely what might Michelle she's got she's connected shady jay he's going to be exposed man. I want to, I really, like, I would have loved to see him go home. I want Corey Lay to go on the elimination round against him and smoke a Jay.

Get high off that guy. Smoke a Jay, send him home. Uh-huh. So they talk about basically how they're rock solid and they will be four votes together. Oh, yeah. Michelle and Corey kind of had that conversation about how, like, you know, Michelle, like feels guilty. Yeah, Michelle, she goes on a little damage control. Yeah, she does.

She's like, yeah, I freaked out. but at the end of the day she did not need to do that because the spotlight's on Corey and it will be for the next few weeks. They talk about, or they go to the next challenge, which is called Bingo Bango, where the teams have to fight in the mud

to grab the bingo ball. Did you... Wait, this is the current episode. That was, this was two weeks. This was last week. Oh, this week they were hanging from freaking the pyramid. Yeah, this week was a pyramid. That's right.

Yeah, they went to Bingo Bango. The bingo. That mud looked hot. Yeah, it was... It didn't look refreshing. No, it was not like Lewis lit. I don't know if you guys watched suits, but he's always taking the mud baths. There wasn't a soothing mud bath.

It was kind of gross. No, it looked like it smelled like cow poop. For sure, which is why some of the people. Would you laugh at a joke back there? What hell's going on? She doesn't think you're funny. I know, it's terrible. What is she, Generation Z?

You're Gen Z. They don't think I'm funny. No. They don't get that humor. They got that CBS humor. Yeah, they got that, they got that tame shit. No, geez corporate, man. She doesn't laugh at that type of stuff.

That's why Olivia was her favorite guest because, you know, she's on that Love Island shit. That's what she likes. Oh, you're into smut. Smut is like filthy material is what I think it is. Maybe I should Google that. I might have just like... No, she's just into gossip and shit. What?

I just talking shit about you? No, yeah, she should be because I give her a lot of reason to talk shit. Hey, you're lucky. Yeah, I didn't throw this hammer at you. Yeah, I did. Better start laughing. Yeah, start laughing, gee.

Give her a round of applause for the laughs, please. Thank you. You got to pay for those. That's extra. Yep. I'll edit this shit, but I'm not laughing at it. You can't pay me enough. Good, boom, got her.

Moving on. That was a legit laugh. So they're in the mud. Yeah, they're in the mud. It's caked on. It's caked on. They're fucking, they're running into each other.

They're like going crazy. This was more of a show. But like, it was kind of whack because I think one of the teams threw it so that Big T or Melissa went in. Well, so, but here's a thing. When you have, like,

when you have three people wrestling, that's what you're doing. You're setting it up so that two teams team up on one to create the drama that they got. Yeah. That's a production trick. Yeah. So they made sure that they had a target on somebody's back. So what's going to happen is people are either going to

battle it out until it's dark out or two teams are going to be like yo screw them that's who's going in yeah you know yeah and i think the big t and melissa they for some reason they're like on the outside looking in here and there's got to be a target yeah you know and i think they're just probably the two girls with at least connections and they're connected at the hip so right everyone it's like a common enemy sometimes is better than you know a common friend for sure you know Yeah, and people like, you know, band their votes together on that. They do have like such a tight friendship. It is fun to see.

I didn't, I don't, I don't even know when that started because I don't even know the last time. Maybe they're just friends from back home. Who knows, but. Maybe they're neighbors. Yeah, maybe they're neighbors. We got to have, we got to have. Maybe they play bunko on Thursdays. Bingo bunco.

Could be. I know that. Doubt it. I know. And we have a relationship with Melissa. I do. I've been talking her a little bit. And like, I know they're really good friends.

inside outside the show but like in the show they're like literally like ride or die and I respect it because they really really are super close they have to yeah they have to they keep going they keep getting voted for and big T's the elimination ringer this yeah the eliminator I eat so much crow because

of big T she's she's shown you a couple times I'm such a head around big T and she's gone in and like here's the thing she's gone in and like looked good looked really good like knows what she's doing I mean we're not we haven't talked about it yet but she beat uh Cass.

Yeah, but she won the first one, but with authority. Yeah. You know, like Diesel, Shaq Diesel Authority. Yeah. She went in there with the confidence of Shaq, Heel O'Neal, and dominated. And I was like, who the heck is this? And then this episode, she goes in against current world champ and smashes her out of the park. Yeah, it gives her the business.

The business. The other day. Endurance challenge. Right. Big T's got lungs. Big T is the real deal. She's got lungs and she's got lungs. and she's got muscles and she's a chef.

Yeah, come on, man. Gosh, she just came out of the closet. She's on fire this season. You're on fire, Big T. Big T. The other day, G said that she could do some of the stuff on the challenge, and I'm like, G. Gee, you'd lose to Big T. In one second, you would lose to big tea.

I think I might lose a big T in a few things these days. Maybe. Maybe. She's probably like, get your old ass off the couch. Yeah. Get your old ass off the couch, Sack. And she's so polite. when she does it but her confidence is it's inspiring yeah i love it she has obviously like some of the

best interviews too like her her one-liners are so funny like i love big t on the channel like there there there there there needs to be like that on a challenge like that's like what like we don't even want to say her name but what she should be which is someone who can actually do some stuff in the challenge like performance wise but also has the comic relief like i love big t on the challenge i think she's hilarious i'm becoming a fan more and more like i like big t i think she's great but like I would have never considered her a dominating force. Right. No, she, she, you know, look, her name is Big T because she is the, she's miniature and that's what she had to, you know, kind of elevate who she was and like that big feeling.

But now after a couple of elimination performances, like some of these girls, like Michelle doesn't want to fucking go against Big T for sure. Like, like some of these other girls, they don't want to see Big T right now. So give her credit. And Big T has the belt. Yeah. She wouldn't she technically be the current world champion? Yeah, well, she beat the current world champion. She did.

But that's the crazy thing. That's the beauty of the challenge is like no one's ever 100% safe. Like a elimination round can go anyway, you know. Yep. And that's fun. And like, look, like, do you-Caz isn't a slouch? I was going to say, have you seen Kaz like performed? Did you watch her season?

I watched USA 2 and I saw a little bit some clips from the, um, the UK challenge. Yeah. Yeah. Are you watching World Champions? You watched one with Jordan? I watched her win. with Jordan. Okay, yeah.

She came up, I mean, Jordan pushed her, obviously, but she won with Jordan. Yeah. You know, and I, she still, her feet still had to take the steps. You know, people could say, oh, listen, Jordan may have done a really good job on certain things, but like, you know, he didn't win with Anisa. And that's not any hate. I'm just saying, like, it takes a dog to win a final. Yeah.

You still have to do it. You still have to take the steps. I like that. Yeah, no. And then obviously. You know, bring on, bring the hand. Yeah. Yeah.

No, having that partner matters and having the same. synergy matters, you know, being able to take that and move with it. So a lot of credit, you never know what could happen. So anyways, basically they get to that point where they, you know, people throw the challenge, Horacio and their crew, they choose Melissa to go in. This may, I was confused with this. Like, why is Horatio taking so much heat? I think it's because people think he's being puppeteered by Nauriz.

Yeah, that's true. But here's the, like, I think he made the right decision. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He's gotten in some hot water in his head from the last two decisions he's made. I mean, that's what happens when you win. You have to make decisions. Right.

And he's had to make tough ones for him, but like, stand on him. You had no problem saying Big T's name on the fucking stage at the first one. Yeah, yeah. You already said it. You were the first person this season to say Big T's name. Yeah. Unwarrantedly, but still. Yeah.

And now you don't want to. Yeah. Or would they say they said Melissa, though. They said Melissa, but like he's had just some stuff. You know why? Because he's cool with Kylan. Yeah. But all his,

all his girl alliance members are on the opposite side. So, like, that was the right move. Right. For sure. She knows. So Melissa, you know,

she knows that, you know, Narese tried to sabotage it. She thought she played dirty. They kind of had this little back and forth. Back at the house, Melissa tells Big T, you know,

she can get enough numbers to kind of, you know, kind of vote Maurice, Norese. And, you know, we know what's going on there. You know, smoking.

You can't get enough. No, man, You really got it. You really got it yourself. Sometimes I'm sitting there and I'm watching and I'm like, they're delusional. Like, do they not feel the like energy in the house? It's crazy.

Yeah, they can't read the room. Yeah, read the room. Anyways, we know what's going to happen here. It happens. They put Big T against Ray, uh, Big T against Melissa. It's really not. This isn't that eventful of an episode. Um, they go down to the arena.

Kaz pulls Big T's name. She gets her ass handed to her. Big T goes to work. Yeah, dude. She shows that weight around. She's rolling and don't, you know. Here's the thing, though, Big T has seen more elimination rounds than CAS. She's more experienced in elimination rounds.

And she's done more seasons of the challenge. So she's seen more challenges. So, like, if you notice, Big T strategy was way better than CAS. She put everything. She didn't have any wasted movement. And that's, that's, like, huge. When you can do something that each movement takes so much energy and you can minimize your movements, that's brilliant. Oh, for sure.

So many. Like literally this is one of the, this was a very, this was a very impressive eliminate. I don't think people are giving her enough credit for how impressive it was. Totally. And especially me. I didn't give her enough credit to being the season. Yeah. And you see some of these other people that have came in, which the Jordan, you know, only one so far.

But like, he had a chip on his shoulder. Like he came in as like, you guys think you could be me. Good fucking luck. And I didn't feel like Kaz came in that way. And she got dusted for it. Well, but that's also. I mean, listen, she's done. she's won a season of the challenge,

but it was all basically rookies on a UK challenge. Then she came on to, you know, world championships. Had Jordan. She had Jordan. So, like, she never really, I mean, her and Jordan won elimination rounds together, but it's just different, you know? Big T's been, big T's been through the ringer.

Like, on a couple of seasons, like, she just really went through it. And she was C.T.'s partner, and I think she learned a lot from him, but, man, that was impressive. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Like, Kaz is a good athlete. She's won two challenges. She's no slouch.

And Big T, her experience came into play. And she's, I think Big T's best, like, like her, one of the best things about her in elimination rounds is she doesn't freak out. She stays calm. Totally. That's huge. If you can do that and keep your mind on your shoulder, you're a good head on your shoulders. Big T's unbeatable. I think she's solidified.

To me, like, she definitely. And she knows she doesn't need my fucking approval. She knows she belongs there. But she, like, really, really is like, oh, okay. like I am a threat. I am a threat. You send me into elimination. I'll kick out a challenger or can't challenge champion.

I'll kick out anyone that thinks they can get me. And she did great. And it's crazy because like she almost wanted to go in for Melissa. Like she was more confident than Melissa. Like I'll do it. Like let me do it. And it was pretty cool to see. The one thing that I will say is we've seen three chaos eliminate, not chaos, but eliminations

because chaos is where they pull out the fucking the spiked ball. but they've seen three challenge champ eliminations. And I felt that the two others, Jordan and Devin, were tailored to their skills, right? Which is what we had guessed. As it should be. As it should be. And right, for this challenged championship to be meaningful,

you should be able to beat the champs at their game. And that we're starting to see what the producers were thinking. I don't even think they knew what Kaz's game would be. Right. Because I don't think they've seen, I don't think anyone has seen her on enough challenges. So my, my next question is, like, I hate to her for that. No, no, no. I'm not hating it.

I think, like, listen, like, also, here's the other thing. 10 grand to her isn't mean as much as 10 grand to Big T, I feel like. I mean, Kez is like, got a very healthy bank kind of hope after two wins. Yeah, no, she literally. Two modern era wins where it's like the least they're handing out in, is quarter. Yeah. You have a half a million from this shit. Yeah.

For sure. She has a half a million from this shit. And like she's called, she even said as much. Like I might not. Before taxes. Yeah, before. She might have even said as much where it's like, I don't need the money. We don't know about taxes.

Like, I don't know if they taxed in the UK. Well, they have the queen and shit. The queen needs her cut. They take their cut. Yeah. The highest paid welfare recipients in the world. The hierarchy. Yeah, the hierarchy.

Don't wait. Never mind. Are they listening? I don't know. Maybe. Who's watching? Who's listening? It's America.

We can say what we want here. Yeah. get out of here, sausage fingers. So, so, um, saying, okay, so we don't really think that they gave her the best chance for her to win, but they don't know. They don't know, but why would they cast her? Do you think it's because she has a UK connection to so many UK people there? Also could have been, there's the availability of other champs. There you go.

She is a, um, she's a more current champ. So maybe they need current champs, older champs, but like maybe not enough people said yes. Yeah, I mean, they have Kara. They have Laurel. They had Caz and Tori. And Tori, right? And Casey. That's a pretty stat group.

Yeah. And my big, my guess is like, she's the odd one out, though, out of those. Maybe not. I mean, who else? Let's name some other champs. Who else are you going to bring in? In my head, I mean, I would love to see Camilla. I mean, I would love to see.

I would love to see. Yeah, I would love to see Camilla. I would love to see. There's also D, but they can't bring D back on. Give D another chance, guys. They could have brought. in your ex-cast mate they could have brought in uh yeah sam or ashley but i don't think this was either their elimination rounds to win this style let's see who else they could sam's gonna be on the show in

twenty four by the way yeah we've been talking we've been talking to sam we love sam we're gonna have her on which she's done touring with taylor swift she'll be on the show yeah dude the funny thing about sam is obviously she's gay so she likes women and like she'll post like the most provocative shit on her story and i'm just like sam like we need to hang out like we need to like pimp girls together. Sam is a great wingman. Yeah, I need to hang out with Sam. I need to take Sam out. She's hilarious. Yeah, she will definitely break the ice. That's funny. We're going to have her on the show on 2024, but yeah, so I'm trying to think who would be, have been a really good substitute. Sarah Rice. Sarah Rice. Ashley. Ashley. Mitchell. Yeah. That

would have been the perfect one. Yeah. Yeah, she's crazy too. So she would have been great. Yeah. Hey, guys. Yeah, she would have been awesome. Yeah, she would have been good. No shade to Cass, Kaz, Kaz. Like, you know, like, we hope to see you in the future. Just think about other options that were there.

But maybe they, again, maybe they were asked and they didn't say yes. And they said no. So, okay, cool. We'll move on from that episode. Any other thoughts before we go into, I thought seven was much more entertaining. So we can move on to seven. Oh, my gosh. There's already seven Eps in?

Yeah, dude, we're flying. Gosh. We're so, man. They did the two on that one day. Yeah, they did the two. and then, you know, we got it in. So, yeah, so start off seven. It starts off with Calum kind of detailing the three main couples in the house,

Horacio and Nauriz. And he says that there's no kisses as of now. Horacio, you got a stronger will than I do, bro. I don't know what you're doing. I appreciate it. I do, too. The knee-jerk reaction is to give him shit and hate on them. But then you think about it, it's like, it's kind of an important thing to take slow, you know,

Well, like getting to know someone because I feel like he's kind of talking about being in it for like the long run. He's not just there for like a showmance or like a hookup. Yeah. If he's going to, if he's going to, if he's going to give somebody like that part of him, he wants it to be the right person. So I can appreciate that. I love the nice guy routine. I know it's like seems it's a nice guy routine or is it just protecting yourself and your energy routine? Let me put it this way.

I think by protecting yourself, your energy, you come off. off as the nice guy. And I think the nice guy part of him is she's right. He's not out, you know, snorting drugs off of, you know, strippers and doing all that crazy stuff. Like he's a good dude. Like he cares about competition, exercise working out. He's not going to do anything.

He's not going to be hopping in DMs. He's going to be a good guy. But that makes you the nice guy. Taking things slow, I think, in 2023. I think it makes you, I just think it makes you very intelligent. Yeah. He's endearing. And it's funny because.

Chris Brown said. the right way. What? These hos ain't loyal. Yeah. It's the fucking truth. Harassio's just making sure that she's loyal. Yeah, his his his his his thing is loyal. So I respect it. I appreciate it. And I was going to say I'm going to say later and I'll say it right now. You got to do your homework before you kiss somebody on TV. Oh, I agree. You got to. You got to, you know, watch them for a couple days, make sure they have decent dental hygiene at a minimum. Yeah, dude. Did you see the thing I posted on our story teasing you a little bit. Shannon Sharp, he had this interview

on his show where he's like, yeah, I go through a tube toothpaste a week. I brush my teeth seven to ten times per day. Easy. Yeah. No problem. Why is that? I don't understand why that's not the norm. You only get one set. You only get one set unless, you know, that enamel though, man, it's... You know what? You'll be all right. If I ever, if they're

listening, I'm not worried about losing them because I'll literally have money set aside in a fund to give myself some brand new, pearly whites. Brand new. Yeah, just get the years. Yeah, you'll look good. Anywho. That concludes the free preview of the Zach Nichols podcast. So go to Patreon and subscribe to see the rest of the shit that we talk. Go do it now.