The Zach Nichols Podcast - Battle of the Eras Mid Season Review w/ Cara Maria! | ZNP EP. 75

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

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Daddy got some sugar last night, so he feels good. At a boy. Number four. No, I checked the ovulation stick first. God works in mysterious ways. Doesn't you have the period tracker app? Oh, yeah. Of course you don't.

I got that so that I know when to avoid it. Me too. Anyways, welcome back to the third installment of the Zach Nichols podcast, Lost in New York. Still lost. And we're here with Captain Carl. she took the she took the helm today and excuse my voice

I'm exhausted for being hilarious if you were at the live show you know Zach was on one last night about halfway through when Maxis he's trying to hit me all the hot tails Zach comes into the hey where's the where's the mixologist I need three Barbie beasts on the rocks

was that your order I just drank about 13 Barbie beasts that's incredible Did you enjoy the drinks last night, Kara? Oh, God, it was so good. My drink, I tried all the drinks. My drink was my absolute favorite, obviously. I'm biased.

It was like spicy lemon cello lemon drop. I've never had red pepper flakes in a drink before. And neither has the toilet. Seeing me have that. So I apologize to my in-laws upstairs bathroom. Might be out of commission. For a couple days. You get the executive bathroom for that?

The New York bathrooms, they're not as efficient. is the power flush 9,000 I have in my house. Everything's tight in Michigan, you know, here in New York. In Michigan, we have the wide-legged bathroom with the high power flush. It's all that good stuff. Every bathroom is. Straight to toilet humor. Yep.

It's the challenge. You know what it is. You know what it is. So first of all, Kar, thank you for taking some time for a mid-season review. This is like kind of very unstructured. We just wanted to talk. Just get our friends on and talk some challenge. And I have a judge one podcast, not even alive.

Like, the most I did was like a quick TikTok. to explain what happened, like a sequence of events of a day that happened. But other than that, like, I've hadn't said much of anything. I know. Not even on the show. You're right. You've been playing my favorite game, which is possum. Yeah.

And I think, don't you think, like, when you take that time off and you let everybody else curate these beefs and, like, you're not part? Everyone almost forgets that you're there because you haven't been there and no one has fresh meat with you. Yeah. So I'm in a situation now in the game where I'm not anybody's number one, two, three, or even four. Or their target, though. Or their target.

But that just means, you know, the smaller the grouped windles, the more like, oh, well, she's available. You know what I mean? She's not with me. She's not against me. I'm just, you know, it's going to start happening probably. But I'm in a pretty chill situation right now. I'm just trying to play. Don't you love it?

Trying to ride the waves like you. I guess I'm floating. I've never done this. I've never been able to do this in a game ever before, so I'm going to enjoy this one season of trying to hide. I love seeing you look like you're having fun in there. But to be fair, you did have some great moments at the beginning of the season. So what I like about it is you're not like hungry for camera time.

You're there to play the game. And when it was your time to step up and defend yourself and it was your time to have the conversations that were important, you have them. But like you're like, hey, if I'm not in them, I don't need to cause any shit, which is such a, cool thing to watch. I think mostly the way I can describe the season is because of the way everything happened on All-Stars 4. Because of the way the season started where it was just there wasn't even a chance to breathe. I came in second on my entire team. I beat Johnny and I still got voted into elimination. You know what I mean? So it was just like I could not escape. I couldn't breathe. And once I you know, barreled from All-Stars 4 to the beginning of this season, as soon as it was over and I was like,

I just am in a little bit of a PTSD land, especially with Laurel around. You know, like I immediately packed my things. I moved to the other side of house. I was living in Era 4 this entire season. I'm in Era 4, except when they're having their meetings, you know, I'm going to step out. It's not my place. Like, you guys do your team chat. When I have to compete, I'm competing as Era 2.

But for the most part, like, because of the way the house was structured, I just did not ever go to the side of Era 1 and 2 just because Laurel was there, man. and I just wanted to like every, when I tell you, she's so strange in the way that I just wanted to stay away from her. Like, I didn't want to be around her and what he would purposely do. I could be alone talking to like two people outside by the pool and somehow she'll find her way out there, beeline straight over to this conversation. I'm just having with two people fall her away and just sit down on the couch and start talking to the person I'm talking to.

And I'm just like, are you fucking, I just get up and leave. That's paranoid. This entire season was me just trying to get away from her. And every room that I'd be in, she would like, she'd just find me and insert herself. And it was so uncomfortable and so bizarre and just weird. I just this whole season of me just casually being in the background is like, I'm just hiding because she's crazy. Is there any chance it's a misguided attempt of reconciliation? Absolutely not.

Okay. I just had to ask the question. Maybe it might be misguided. Maybe she doesn't know how to say sorry Maybe she doesn't know how to say I've been a bad friend I don't know No none of that She's team double down

Would you still consider yourself sisters? I think that that word makes me want to vomit When it relates to her I never I want that word to die here and now With regards to her All right So never was never will be again It's over and I've removed myself from that area

Almost like you touch the flame so many times That you're finally like oh wait that burns. It's fire. Yeah, that hurts. I'm good. I'm good. The only thing that, like, really set me off was just seeing her start to reenact that

behavior with Michelle. Because Michelle, I really do. I know a lot of people feel their types of way about her. I didn't watch 39. I just watched my elimination. I don't know anything about her history on the show. But from being in the challenge house with her, what I gathered with the kind of person she is, she's very, you know, and knowing, knowing her past, like, I've dived

into actual conversations with her. I've learned about her past, past relationships, her relationships with her family members. So I have a better understanding of who she is and why she operates the way she does. And that's her business to talk about. But she is the type of person that's just like wants to make everything right. So like, you know, not to just be friends because I'm afraid of myself in the game. It doesn't give that. It gives I just don't want to be uncomfortable around anybody. I don't want anybody to hate me. Like I just want to be cool. Like, that's how she is. She genuinely just kind of leads with her heart, maybe like a Josh.

Got it. That's what I was thinking. Without the flamboyant, boisterous moments, right. She just doesn't want negativity with anybody, genuinely. And it's not fake. It's just, that's how she is. So Laurel is the type of person,

which now I'm seeing it from the outside, watching how she operates with Michelle, where Laurel will reel her in just to stab her down and then watch as Michelle's like, uh, but like, why don't you like me? But I'm sorry. Like, can I, like, because Laura will give her breadcrumb and then punch her in the

face. Oh, I feel that. You know, so it's like, and that's, it's like a psychological, tormenting manipulation game that Laurel loves to play with people. And it worked on me for a very long time because I'm like, oh, she's being nice, but I'd be walking on eggshells. Like, oh, but we're cool. And then bam, you know, she just be a, like, just the most, it's so from another planet, bizarre, weird, and uncomfortable, like her things that she does. It's just, you can't rationalize it in your brain. It's like she's on another planet. And so she plays these games with Michelle. And I just felt so bad because Michelle, doesn't get it. She hasn't been around it. And, you know, Laurel would pull her in and then stab her away. And I'm like, I see it happening in real time to someone else. And, you know, she doesn't, I know what it did to me. And I, and I didn't want, you know, Michelle to have to deal with that. So do you think that maybe Laurel only likes people that will, like, accept the role of being below her? And if you try to rise above her or you have success above her or, you know, people start to like that person better, that.

that she might then feel threatened. And so she's got to knock them down a peg to kind of be like, hey, I'm still in charge here. She gets like an ownership of people. It's the only way to explain it. Like she feels, even though she's sabotaging Johnny,

you know, and working behind his back, which you don't see a lot of, it's like she feels an ownership of him. So anybody in competition of that needs to be destroyed. You know, we need to remove Emily. Emily needs to get away from him.

I know she was, you're not seeing it, but she's like picking on a V for, constantly because now Aviv's kind of protected by Johnny. Rachel, she, Laurel knows she can't try it, Rachel. So there's certain people that she knows what she can do to them. And there's certain people she won't, she won't touch. She'll try it.

But when she gets shut down, she's like, oh, okay, this one I won't mess with. But she is a very sort of weird ownership thing. Can I ask why she can't, why she can't go for Rachel? Like, what is it about Rachel that makes her untouchable? I think she just comes to Laurel. That concludes the free pre-referral. review of the Zach Nichols podcast. So go to Patreon and subscribe to see the rest of

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