The Zach Nichols Podcast - Final Reckoning Episodes 6 & 7 Review + the Jozea Flores Interview! | ZNP EP. 174

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the Zach Nichols podcast. Welcome back. It's beautiful 100 degree summer day out. So freaking hot here in Michigan. We're in the midst of July. I'm not, weekend. I'm not complaining.
Starting point is 00:00:11 I don't mind. I didn't complain once at the golf course today. No, you're pretty tough about it. I was bitching. What did I say to you when you were bitching? What did you say, oh,
Starting point is 00:00:21 I don't know what you say. Sack up? No, well, no, I said five months ago. Oh. It was so cold. our bones were hurting. It's true. So how are you going to complain about a perfect 95 degree summers day in Michigan?
Starting point is 00:00:36 Also, we've always had hot summers. We haven't always had brutal winters. When we were kids in Michigan, they were much worse, I feel like. And then I feel like college to young adulthood, it was like pretty temperate. But like when people bitch about the weather here, I'm like, like people from here. It is hot. It is. It's very hot.
Starting point is 00:00:57 But it's been this hot. I'd rather have this than the bullshit or the hurricanes. But it's been this hop for. This shouldn't be a surprise. July is always high 80s, low 90s here. You're in the middle of it. Yeah, it is what it is. So drip it up and wipe it down.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Yeah. Bring an extra shirt. Which I did. Yeah. Two extra shirts. I still couldn't grip the fucking golf globe because the sweat would just get into my glove. But we're here. We're alive.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Happy 4th of July weekend. By this time you've already heard and celebrated all that good stuff, but very patriotic on this set. as always. Yeah, 250 years. Undefeated. Undefeated World War champion. Haven't lost in 776.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Fuck you, Kyle. Hey, Rogan. I like Rogan. Eat my dust. I don't exactly. Actually, yeah, no, Kyle has the audacity to kind of tell me, Tony, and Devin in a group chat all the time,
Starting point is 00:01:49 how much better England is than the United States. And we just laugh because we're like, if that was true, then how do we beat your asses with pitchforks and axes? when you guys had guns, you know what I'm saying? Sure about that? Yeah. And so we go back and forth on that quite a bit,
Starting point is 00:02:03 but I don't think you're going to win that argument with Tony and Devin also in the group. And also he's like at one point, we own 25% of the whole planet. Like, yeah, now you own a small corner. Congratulations. Everyone else was like, oh, cool, we'll take it. We're better than you at all your sports.
Starting point is 00:02:18 That sounds good. I'll have that. I don't know. I mean, you can't say we're better than all the sports. I mean, We'll see what happens in this. Everything besides soccer. We'll see what happens in this world.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Maybe some like those stupid Olympic events like rowing or fencing. Like they might win that. But their only thing that they are really, really good at and they might be better than us at is acting. Because when you see a British actor doing an American role, you literally cannot tell. And they're unbelievable. They're unbelievable. Well, it'll be the same thing if like a English person or someone from America went. They can't go the other way as good.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Like Christian Bale and Gary Oldman in the Dark Knight trilogy. They're both English. They're unbelievable. They're great actors. Shout out to the Brits. Anywho. I have no problem with them besides when they say the better ones. They're better at soccer too.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Are they better at the challenge? No. Joss is pretty good. How many wins does Joss have? Zero. Exactly. Okay. Until someone has more wins than Jordan and they're from like in bananas and CT
Starting point is 00:03:21 and they're from a different country, then we can talk. Who is the best European? challenger. The best non-American challenger. I mean, Michael, do you have an impact on this? It's tough to say because there's like, again, some people say Jordans to go, something people will say with bananas the goat. Entertainment, all around
Starting point is 00:03:42 entertainment, competitively unless Kyle. It's Kyle. Unless I'm thinking of some, unless there's somebody else that I'm not thinking of but all or, well, then you have to say though, Rogan does have the win. You know what I'm saying? Rogan has the win. But I would say
Starting point is 00:03:58 Kyle's had more chances. so he's done more. Even without a win, I think he's, because his political game is like unreal. Kyle. Kyle's never gone home in the first half of a show ever.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I would say Kyle is the face of the UK. Like anybody from the UK on the challenge, it's like Kyle's the face of him, but the best? Besides Jenny. Take her out of it. Jenny's the best athlete.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Yeah, for sure, by far. He's the most dominant athlete. Yeah, but she doesn't provide enough entertainment for me to give her the best. Would you say the same about Joss? Because I'm watching, bro, he is an absolute unit. He's a monster. Yeah, no, Joss is. Joss just.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I keep getting surprised about how fast he is. Oh, he's a total package. Yeah. Like he's, he can eat. He can do puzzles as well as like 50% or more. Yeah. No, Joss is legit. I think he probably would be the most formidable.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I mean, but then. And again, there's also the in shape Theo, too. And when Theo is in shape, we're disrespecting Theo. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's, it's, it's tough because Joss also, like Theo's given, been given more opportunities. Theo's been putting some pretty great such, like, Josh was never given Jordan and C.T. in a final, right?
Starting point is 00:05:19 Now, Rogan had to get there. But he would, like, that one was an easy final to get to as long as you sided with the right side. But to your point, Kyle and Joss are both winning in that situation also. Yeah, dude, they're all, those three are, it's hard to pick from those three. Kyle Entertainment for sure, but Rogan's also very, very, very entertaining. Rogan's also gone home first twice, though. There you go. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:45 So, like, what is he? It's hard to say he's the best. Yeah, he's kind of like Bo Jackson. You can never say he's the best running back ever. But on any given day, he can be the best. But he was super explosive and was a home run hitter. So that's Rogan to me. It's like a Bo Jackson.
Starting point is 00:05:57 where like, dude, Joss was kind of like really good. Yeah. Like I don't want to see Joss in any elimination round. Joss is a puzzle. I think you would,
Starting point is 00:06:09 and whether you say who's the best, I think you would say, who would you consider the biggest threat to you? Well, Kyle's not a threat. I mean, dude, they're all three. You can't, Theo's a monster.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I don't want to see Theo in much because he's just a bigger, probably faster form of me. When he was, I mean, He doesn't really care. He doesn't really work out. He never worked out for the last one.
Starting point is 00:06:31 But he still made it to the final. So that's what's crazy. Joss, dude, they're all good. George is up there. But Jenny's the most dominant. But those three guys are so interchangeable. Four guys. Michael?
Starting point is 00:06:45 I can't choose one. The most... I got to sit. The best, I mean, there's only one champion out of the males. So, I mean, realistically, like, you could say Rogan and you're not necessarily going to be wrong. Yeah, but Theo's got a second and he's got a great elimination record. And he's got a second final to back it up.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah. But, you know, yes, listen, Rogan's got the championship. Let us know what you think, guys. Who's the best British male? You can't go wrong. Just take entertainment out of it and just go athletic. Athletics, Joss. I think he can get.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Yeah, you know why? Because he can swim much better than Theo. So Joss is the total package. Yeah, exactly. He's more real rounded in my opinion. Josh is one decision away from winning final reckoning. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And here's the other thing. If that, like, if all those guys had run, it was just a guy who's running that final. Paulian, I mean, Paulie and Joss are going to go head neck and neck. But I think Joss is probably going to get it. It's been forever since I've watched that final. Final reckoning wasn't even a final. It was just a day, it was a two-day daily challenge. It was so easy.
Starting point is 00:07:57 They ran less than five miles. I'm just, my upset. My, I'm just, it's brewing because I know how mad I'm going to get. And it's just like festering in my soul that a team that enters and we're actually covering it now. We're covering episode six and seven that a team that enters the game halfway through gets a bullshit decision from a scorned cast member takes home a million fucking dollars and someone steals it. I'm getting pissed already. I know it's coming. It was great TV.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Bro. It was amazing TV. I'm losing my mind already. But should we get started on Rhino Feckoning, episode six and seven? Bro, get over that. I'm sorry. I'm the loser that laughs at his own jokes, 20 lifetime. Get over it, man.
Starting point is 00:08:43 You can't, come on. All right. Final Reckoning, episode six and seven. Peter Pan. Count Chocula. It loves to be Cowboys from Oakland. Is it Cowboys from Oakland? Is it pimps from Oakland?
Starting point is 00:08:58 Pimps from Oakland. Cowboys on Halloween. Is it Cowboys from Phoenix? No, Phoenix is not involved. What is the line? Cowboys. You guys have seen weapons crashes. Pimps from Oakland.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Girl, Peter Pan, Count Chalka. Bro, get your shit together. Episode 6 and 7, we come back to the Redemption House. And C.T. is basically doing Russell Crow from American Gangster. He has all the suspects on the wall with the string theory. You know who was directly smack dab in the middle of C.T's board? Who? Me.
Starting point is 00:09:27 because think about it. I did not notice that, actually. I should have looked for you. No, I don't know if they actually showed that, but when people came back to the house, which, I'm not going to spoil it, but when the people, Jose and Devon, I think came back to the house,
Starting point is 00:09:39 they were telling us about it. And they were like, and they were like, it was like, it's a beautiful mind, like diagramming the game. Like, he had all this stuff. And you know, they announced it to the whole house that we were smack dab in the middle. And I was like, damn it.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Like, that's not, blowing up my spot. That's not what I want everyone to hear. right but like everyone was just like that concludes the free preview of the Zach Nichols podcast so go to patreon and subscribe to see the rest of the shit that we talk go do it now

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