The Zach Nichols Podcast - The Bowie Jane Interview! | ZNP Bonus Episode - Full Audio Exclusive!

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

Please welcome Bowie Jane to the Zach Nichols Podcast! She is Big Brother 2nd runner up, never nominated and only person in BB history to not be nominated in 100 days, won 3. She is Billboard charting DJ producer & vocalist. 7 in the UK and 21 billboard charts. Recently performed at EDC Las Vegas.Check out her podcast @babesbehindthebeats where she interviews females and non binary in the music industry. In our fifth year of doing the podcast radio show on insomniac radio.www.djbowiejane.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Gooday, it is Bowie Jane, and I am going to be on the Zach Nichols podcast. Tune in when we talk about all things Big Brother, Life, DJing, everything, and tuning. Welcome back to the Zach Nichols. I'm here with my co-host, Mr. Zach Nichols. More importantly, we have a very special guest, Big Brother finalist, world travel DJ. DJ Bowie Jane in the building. I love the crowd. Oh, yeah.

They're high. Same people, same cheer. Just like the crowd. crowds you were performing in front of at EBC, Las Vegas was that? Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah, it was amazing. What a festival, 525,000 people.

Gali. Second biggest festival in the world, I think. So he's just... So half a mill? Yeah. Just shy. I know, I should just say that. Shirely over half a mill.

That's not bad. I mean, I've done pretty close to that. Yeah. Yeah, our last show... It's all just to see me. Let me tell you. Good point. Was DJ Polly D either?

No. Oh, no. So, like, different type of music. What's the genre? Armand Van Buren, Steve Ioki, John Summers. Oh, some Steve Ioki stuff. Yeah, basically the top.

Like everyone, all genres, it's pretty amazing. So, yeah, I was interviewing for Insomnia at Radio, but also DJ. Yeah, that's awesome. We saw that you had some pretty high profile interviews. Shout out to G guys. By the way, G's getting married this week. So Michael's stepping in. So if you see us talking to the producer, it's Michael.

But G's a huge fan of John Summit, and you got to interview him. Yeah, he's really nice. He used to be an accountant, which is crazy. This DJ is massive. What a boring job, moron. He would. Loser. No, he says that too.

He looks like he wants to jump out of his second story window every day. So bored. No, John Summer quit. He quit the accounting. He was like, this is boring. So, Matt. Let me be a... He wanted to do psychedelic drugs and play music.

Let me be world-renowned and known, you know, everywhere. That's awesome. So congratulations. And let's talk a little bit. about that before we get into your story like how long have you been DJing and what are your goals in that field well I started as a singer singing bands then some of my tracks are doing quite well in the dance chats and then I thought right how can I perform and do the the tracks that are doing well so taught myself how to DJ maybe 15 years ago but I've been performing for longer than that

this while you're practicing law yeah I mean I really was doing both and using two different names so yeah you're legal That's it. We don't tell anyone that. I mean, it's everywhere now. I was like, great. Thanks, Big Brother. So I have a question. Yeah. Are you an American citizen?

I am now. Okay, you are now. Before or after Big Brother? No, you couldn't go on if you went. Gotcha. So I got my citizenship in like Feb and applied in Feb. Because I knew I had to wait for that. Yeah, it was just funny because like after, I thought when they said, you know, you're Australian.

I'm like, oh my gosh. So it's the first non-American. American-born person on Big Brother. And then after Big Brother, like, you were just, like, hanging out. And I'm like, Jesus, this person, does she have a, like, when the fuck does she go home? Right. Like, I'm, like, on social media. Like, how the hell is she still in America?

Like, they didn't boot her ass out yet. So my first question was, A, your name is. Yep. And B, you're an American citizen. Oh, I was like, and where is this going? How was that process? I want to know. I've never talked to anyone about going through the process.

Oh, yeah. Like, so at first I was on an entertainer's visa. I've been in, living in L.A. for nine years. Yes, since 2015. Oh, wow. Okay, got you. First, I was on an entertainer's visa, which is really hard to get. And then I moved to a green card, and then you moved to the citizenship. So it's quite a long journey.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Was it tough? Not really. Was one of the answers, Herbie Hancock? Not if you're smart. I can't remember what the questions were, and I really didn't know much. Real quick.

Can we get a round of applause? for the American. I mean, that's what's weird. I've seen me on, like, the internet, and people describe me as American Australian. I'm like, I guess I am. I mean, you know what I'm saying? It counts, for sure.

So you said that you knew you had to do that to go on a Big Brother. So was this something you saw it out? Did you always want to be on Big Brother? Talk to us real quick. You go superfan? Yeah. I mean, not a...

Were you a Julie Chanster? Not a Superfan, like, what I now know what a superfan is. Right. But I had to watch it. I even realize what a Big Brother's super fan is. The live feed people? Come on, y'all.

The people who get booted out in the first four weeks of every season, super fans. Just saying. Keep it real. I mean, it's like they play way too aggressive and they're trying to get things on their resume, only to never make it to show your resume. Well, some would say that you were walking, trudging, if you will, towards your imminent eviction. I mean, this is, I love this thought. So my question would be, would you rather be someone who goes all in, balls the wall right away, gets thrown out?

Or I don't know this. I don't know if you had any side conversations, but you had to know that Matt and Jag weren't that wasn't going to, you shouldn't like, come on. There were two things with this. No, no, there were two things with this. Matt and Jag, I thought, I'm someone who wants to side with the strong competitors because I'm a strong competitor, but I didn't show it that I was. but I was like, let's get in the winning team, make it through, show my loyalty, and knock them off at the end. I truly believed I could beat them.

Oh, you did? I'm a crossfitter. I'm an ex-professional tennis player. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. So, DJing, lawyer. Cross-fit. I do things to the extreme.

Yeah. So you still CrossFit? Yeah. Where's your gym? What's your box? CrossFit horsepower in L.A. Oh, nice. I've never heard of it, but I'm probably a badass gym in silence horseball.

Yeah. There's a few champions that have come out here. I'm not one of them. So point blank, and you answered it, but I just want to ask it again, like, were you playing to win or were you playing to get as far as possible? This is what I thought. Jag, super fit. I honestly thought I might be stronger. This might be delusional, but I do do heavy weights.

So I was like, okay, anything like that. Plus, they're not going to say, let's deadlift 300 pounds, aren't they, right? The other thing is puzzles and stuff I'd been preparing for it. So I was like, I might be able to be able to be. beat them with that. Definitely Matt's way stronger than me. No chance that I could beat him in a physical but I knew they're not going to give

something that was siding totally with the guys. So I thought I could beat them and I also thought I could maybe there were two angles, one to twist JAG to make him take me and then I'm going to do a ripper speech at the end because I'm a... Oh like take me I'm the automatic win. Yeah I was

playing that cap. I think he thought he was the automatic win with either. Yeah, that's what I wanted him to think. But I also was then going to say, guys, you didn't realize I was playing this game, blah, blah, blah, you know, I'm used to talking in court, so it wasn't going to be a problem speaking. Right. So, like, okay, so that is something I definitely wanted to know,

because it's something we talked about a lot, and I have it personally haven't heard to speak on it, but, you know, it looked like you were, you know, kind of like just along for the ride, but really you're like, I'm playing awesome. They don't know I'm a lawyer. You didn't see their conversations, though. And I still haven't, but yeah.

So that's where it's like I was coming from where I was like, I don't, like they were basically saying, like she's coming along for the ride. She's the layup as in like final two. Which was right. So I'm thinking like here's a lawyer who can, I mean, X was the lawyer, right? And X was like he could read people. So we knew you had that.

I'm like, at what point are you going to pull out the guillotine? And you were trying to do it at the very end. Well, no, like, so I was working on JAG to take me. Because I knew that him and Matt were close. I was like working on him saying that Matt's going to beat you. Like really, I mean, he's such a nice guy. Everyone loves him. Well, but we, we, I think Jag and I did think that for a while there.

And there was, we were very close to Jag, not taking Matt to the fore. Like, it really was quite close. If that had happened, it would have been Felicia, me and Jag. I would have won one of the comps. We would have gone off. I think he wouldn't have taken Felicia. Mm-hmm. Because Felicia had an angle being the older person and he might not have beaten her, actually.

I don't know. Yeah. Let me ask you this. Like you talked about your strategy. He was getting to the final two and then giving a killer speech. Do you feel like Matt was going to win going into that speech? Or did you always know Jag was going to win? And why did you vote for Jack?

Well, also, if you would have won the HOH at the final three. Yes. So that really was your Super Bowl. So you're banking on either if you win, like if you can win that one, then you decide basically who goes to the final two. So I think you're probably banking and winning that. But it was like once you didn't win that, you're kind of like a duck in the water. Yeah.

My thing was maybe made a making a move. at like five or six to split that up and be like oops but now I'm your number one true but people like Corey I don't think I those challenges were for like you there was a lot of memory stuff where which one was um Corey's the um mustache oh do weevosaurus he's so smart oh for sure to me Cougar prey yeah to me no one was very physical in the house except for Matt and jag really everyone else not athletic so yeah i was like the people i've got to worry about are the people is super smart so like corey america i thought that were the biggest threats to me so i didn't think i could beat them wow okay but i could beat them in a physical challenge yeah you're just saying

in the game you thought without you had a bit okay so uh back to my question did you going into the final two you it just got eliminated i'm sure you're devastated but you're in this jury house or the jury situation right and did you did you expect matt or Did you expect Jag to win? Actually, no. We just had a different feeling in the house. So I don't know what Matt's position was on that, actually. But I just thought...

I forgot what he said. Yeah. I think... Because Jag wasn't like... I think he went into it and he just regretted being so nice to Jag where Jag kind of took it a little bit further in the speech to kind of like... Matt only talked about what he did well, where Jagg was like, I did this, this and this is why he shouldn't win. Yeah.

Matt didn't do that and that was his regret. Well, actually he said he's glad he didn't. He wouldn't do it. different, but he didn't expect that. Yeah. Jag was definitely playing the most cutthroat game, in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah, I think, yeah, the speech was, I didn't care.

I was like, go for gold. Like, whatever. At that point, you got to. And Matt was too nice. Why did you vote for Jag? I voted for Jag because I had developed a better relationship with him. I mean, I love Matt, but I just had been talking more game with Jagg. Yeah.

Do you think that's because Matt's deaf and you could talk more game with Jag? Uh, no, I just think, um... You just related to him more? I don't know, actually. That's a good point. I've never thought about... I just had talked... It was probably tough to tell secrets with him.

No, you know what it was? It was me working, having a goal to work on JAG. I just didn't know how I was going to work on Matt. So JAG was my main... That was where I saw a hole that I could get in. So I was working on him and I just think then I developed a bit more of a talking strategy relationship. Right. With Matt, yes, that is very...

difficult for him, but we would do a lot of conversations outside by the weights because no one was working out except for us. Oh, awesome. Well, no, for sure, but I'm just saying his mode of communication is different. Very difficult for him. Yeah. It's like so tough, especially the first few weeks. The house is super noisy for everyone. Like, so for him, impossible. Like he really, yeah, I don't envy his position. He did a great job. No, he navigated himself like a professional. I'm just saying it definitely played against him in the final too, because you got to remember, like there's three people in the house. Everybody's having conversations with everyone.

Yeah. You guys can hear more than he can hear. Yeah. You know? In a game of, in a game of, you know, telephone, being able to hear is pretty important. No kidding. Seriously. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what it is. So talk about your casting process and how did you get on TV? Have you been on TV before? I probably should have done some research before that question. But talk about it. I'm a superstar. No.

I hadn't been on a TV show before. I've got a podcast, but yeah, not a TV show. While you were a lawyer, you have a podcast. No, so music's my passion And I was doing the law So it wasn't hard to put the lawyer No, like seriously Because you come to America

You're not really a lawyer anymore No, that's right And because you basically have to learn a whole different Yeah, so I can only work Commonwealth jurisdiction So when I came here I was just pursuing the music But doing a little bit of virtual law stuff

To be honest What's the question again? On TV Yes, how'd you get on TV? Oh, casting process Okay, so I reached out, sent in a video, that's it. I didn't get, they didn't hump me down. I knew my story was kind of interesting, so I played on that in the video and that was it.

And the casting process was smooth, although 4,000 interviews, like, are you kidding? Yeah, but they loved you every time. Obviously they get, you get 4,000 interviews? Every interview I was like, I'm in, this is it. And then there was another interview. Well, one thing that I do realize about the show, because it's a one thing. a year thing. They do their due diligence. Yeah. They really, really do. They can't mess it up.

They got one chance at it. And, you know, I think you were a great addition to this particular group. How long had you been watching it before you got on? I watched about six American seasons. And I'm Big Brother Australia, too. And then I also watch Big Brother Australia, which is completely different. It's not alliances. It's not, it's kind of the audience vote.

So it's like a popularity contest. Oh, okay. What would you say? if you were back home and you wanted your mom to put another shrimp on the grill how would you say that let's go put the prawns on the barbie

not the shrimp the prawns damn it yeah all right well we won't throw another shrimp on the barbie he just really likes dumb and dumber yeah we just and that's not a knife this is a knife if you've watched

crocodile d'a yeah for sure that's awesome but wait the so when you're down when you're down under No, yeah With your mom And you were watching I mean

Australia Sounds a bit dodgy Yeah Wait what You were in Australia Watching Big Brother Yeah Yeah yeah

All alliances Why is that I mean it's I don't know if it's like If it's changed now But yeah It was just like People watching

Oh let's watch The people in a house Not like It's not like They don't play as hard I don't even think There's comps Like

Yeah So it's more like real world So did you watch The Challenge Australia When it came out It was a couple years ago now No

But there's a pretty big podcast and some reality stars from Australia on it and then they took like the best one or two when they were on the Challenge USA. Oh, I see, yeah. Yeah, so I didn't know if you had watched that if you knew any of the people that were on that show.

No. No, you do American TV. Yeah. I'm an American, I just watched American TV. But I... No one's going on in Australia. She's American. Yeah.

Before going on, once I knew I was in that casting process, and even before that, I was listening to every breakdown podcast on people's strategy. So like trying to work out the best way. It's Tiffany's podcast, like the winner's circle and all the podcast, breakdowns. And so I had a... When you weren't performing, right, you were watching.

Well, I do have to travel, so there's good listening to it. Yeah, that's true. That is true. So I was very much aware of what my strategy would be, and that's don't rock the boat in the first four weeks. Don't be a psychopath, like half the people in there. Yeah. And then, and don't win any comps until... This is the annoying thing about Big Brother, that you have to throw comps until halfway. Like, then you start winning. But it's, you know, the challenge, that's what's great about.

I've been watching All-Stars. That's what's great about that. You can take people's stars and you have to win a star to get to the final. You have to prove yourself. You have to prove yourself. Competitively. Yeah. It's not always athletically, but more than off, more oftentimes than that it is.

But yes, you do have to prove yourself in some capacity. Which I love. And if everyone wants you out, you have to lose in an elimination round to go home. So you always have the chance to, protect you right in the game. Yeah. Whereas like Big Brother, it's like, hey, sorry, you're not part of our group. Yeah.

And also the comps are like not physical. They would say to us, the producers would say, I'm okay. Well, they have to make them so anyone can win. I know. That one that you did they had to hold on forever. Dude, I had to throw that because everyone fell off. I'm like, what the fuck? This isn't even hard.

That was with the wall one, right? So you'd throw that one. But then what about the one where you guys were spinning in a circle and your head to hang on those things? Did you do that one? So there's always one, like the wall one. and there's always the spin in the circle one. Yes.

The one that makes you dizzy, I get motion sick real bad. So I was like, oh, my brain is spinning into my head. I'm going to vomit because I jumped off that one. But I wasn't throwing that. I just couldn't do that. I love seeing how physically confident you are.

I think that's something that maybe, you know, for me watching it didn't translate, but like, you know, your age is a topic of conversation on the show, but you still felt like I was... Go ahead. Go ahead. I had an idea. Oh, yeah. Go ahead.

So you were talking about how, fit and how confident you are in your abilities. Now, I'm a former crossfitter. Back in the day, I went to regionals. Oh, did you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at you. For sure, yeah.

Which gym were you? When I went to regionals, I was at Plymouth CrossFit. Okay. In Plymouth, Michigan. Let's go. Cool. Yeah. So my question is, what's your friend time?

Oh, like, I'm not going to say three minutes. If you're a crossfitter, you know, what's your fan time? I know, like, it must be 12 or something. Okay. I just wanted to know. Okay. Yeah. I don't know.

I haven't, I really don't care about that. Oh, so you don't really do cross- No, I did cross-fit four or five times a week, but I don't, you don't pay attention. I don't even care if I write down my school. He's not checking the stats. Okay, it's funny, no, I'm just trying to check. I'm trying to check your stats because I'm trying to get in my head.

Oh, what kind of athlete are you? So I didn't cross-fit for 14 years. So when CrossFit first began, we were one of the first ones in Australia, and so I've never competed. Australians win the games every year. There's always an Australian winning the CrossFit games. Is that right? Yeah.

I just like it because it's, you know, it's social, I feel good. The endorphins are good after. I love Olympic lifting and then doing a little bit of that workout at the end. And it's just one thing I've stuck to. You're trying to do yoga for 14 years. Well, I couldn't. I couldn't do yoga for 14 fucking minutes.

No, me neither. Like, I'm just not a yoga girl. No. Yoga's tough, especially in those hot rooms. And they're like here, stand on this toe. Good luck. You didn't see it. No, I mean, the endorphins from CrossFit are insane.

Yeah, no, definitely. So being a crossfitter and watching this challenge is it something that you would want to do? Like you seem like you would love to do it. Yeah. Oh yeah. I love that. And it's actually, I kept saying, let's have some proper physical comps in here. Some proper stuff.

Yeah. Like, please, I want to show some muscle. But only when I was allowed to show muscle later on, like early on I still would have had to throw in it. Yeah. That's why. They can't do super athletic comps and Big Brother because it's CVS. Yeah. I mean, they don't, we saw CBS, CBS had done a version.

Soft. No. So CBS had done a version of the challenge and, you know, they got this reputation for being soft because they did, what is known to be as an epic elimination, which is a hall, essentially two people in a hall. Oh, through the other. Yeah. And they made them use pads. They gave them pillows. Oh.

Yeah. It's like your football versus Australian rules football. Like, we don't wear pads, helmets, nothing. It's just like bad. You guys do rugby. Well, yeah, Australian rules football It's a bit different to rugby But it's pretty physical

You have Australian football is actually It's different to rugby And then different to rugby You actually have Australian football Where you do the same thing That American football players do Except you can bounce and run with it And you kick

All the way down the field That's rugby It's different It's I swear to God Sim Zim I swear to God That's agreed That's agreed and disagree

No mate you're going to look it up I am And you're going to go Oh I do it right now. So there's rugby. There's rugby? There's Australian football.

Australian rules. It's different. A rose. Australian rules. As I said Australian rules. I was like, oh, the Rose Bowl. Okay.

And it's generally the, like, it's the whole of Australia, but it's really big in the South, whereas rugby's more up the coast. So, Sydney. The whole country's a coast. It's a continent. Like, what are we talking about? The East Coast. Are you from Sydney?

Yeah, we're going to learn. Rough Aussie rules football. I'm going to look it up right now. Yeah, we're going to learn. Look up punch-ons on the Aussie rules football. All right, I'm going to ask you some questions about the house, okay? Okay. Who is the funniest person in the house?

Actually, I, Jag was pretty funny. Yeah. Felicia was funny. I loved Felicia's character. I thought she was so funny on TV. I kept saying, like, geez, this must be entertaining TV watching her. I tell you what. Like, she's crazy, but yeah.

Yeah, she would, we made fun of, we made fun of a big tea, but Felicia was known to rip one, you know, here and there. We, I wouldn't just. BS that you guys are watched in your rooms. Come on. If you can't fart in your room. No, she was doing it everywhere. That was not a room thing. You know what? Felicia's your spirit animal. That's when you travel. That's what it reminds me

of with the robe and the bag. Oh, the robes. What was it? Yeah, she had robes on all the time. That's probably why I loved her because I'm a robe guy. You know, you walk around the robe. For me, I just felt like Tony Soprano in it. She would be sitting here right now and it'd be like not a little pub.

It would be like this. like and I'm like yes that is so foul it's and it stung it's disgusting that's vile I bet it stung she looks like she can drop bomb we're not talking once we're talking all the time I respect I don't give a fuck next challenge the next challenge they do is CBS challenge they got to cast

Big T and Felicia just pick them in the same room be like listen the first person to tap out fart ladies it's a fart out it's a fart out first person to give up I bet Felicia could smoke out big tea in a mere minute. Oh, yeah. Like less than. Felicia, big bet.

Well, she kept saying it was dairy, and then she would eat dairy. Yeah, it was like that. It was like that. Stop it, man. Yeah, luckily, it just wasn't like this. Oh. A real hot one. Leave Felicia alone.

All right. All right, well, I mean, that kind of answered my... Honestly, I'm sleeping in the same room with her at one point. Wow. And we would hear this violent noise. Alicia, the Dutch oven. You would see me sit up and beg, go, what the fuck? If she was a superhero, it would be the Dutch oven.

Oh, my goodness, guys. All right, well, that answer, I think that answers my next question, which was who was the dirtiest or nastiest person in the house? But no. What were her favorite foods to eat? What was she always snacking on? Probably just, like, farty foods. You know, people were eating all day in the ass, and I was like, how is everyone

eating and not putting on weight? I'm, like, on the protein shakes, isn't there? Because I didn't want to put on weight. Yeah, talk about the eating situation. delicious as like go-to. Like, what was it? We saw her pocket fruit all the time. She had chicken in her pocket.

Yeah, she needed the rough-ed. She had fried chicken in her pocket. Pocket nuggets, man. Come on. Dude, I, dude, listen. No, she used a hoarder. You'll find a chicken tendi or two in my pocket, so I'm not going to talk shit there. Listen, I can't even deny that.

I've had plenty chicken tendies in my pocket. But fruit. They're good for a rainy day. Fruit bruises in your pocket. Yeah, I don't know. I think it was candy. She loved the candy. That's fine.

Man. So is Pierre. He likes the candy. What are the other? I'm recently eating celery. But he's in a relationship with celery. Yeah, the big celery. Okay.

So. It's complicated. Who, what about the most like? It's an open relationship. Is there. Is there anyone that was openly? He never cheats on it. Only.

See, it's only funny because I cheated on her today. But it was like literally by circumstance. I'll tell you about it later. I lock my keys out of my house. You had to get takeout. I always do that. For the thing I do, oh, fuck,

a lot of my keys in the house. I got to get takeout. First thing. That's exactly what my keys? I didn't get takeout. What if my blood sugar goes too low? I don't have my celery. It was a stress reliever.

So, all right, so who, let me ask you this. I don't need this. All right. What do you wish they would have shown for you specifically? And I know there's a live feeds and they supposedly catch everything. Did you hear a DJ in the house? No.

I didn't. I didn't, I haven't watched it. So I don't know. Why? Why haven't you not watching? You don't like watching yourself on TV? No, that doesn't worry me. I just, I don't like watching myself on TV. Yeah, A, it's a lot of episodes.

B, I just. It was already over when you got out. Yeah, it's like I lived it. I lived my side of it. I've been tagged in all the bullshit anyway. So whatever. I think I know generally what went on. And maybe I'll watch it in a few years, but next I'm on, you know?

Yeah. I just don't want to go through. Also, watching people be super nasty. about you, which not game stuff, just being freaking nasty. I don't think anyone was outwardly nasty towards you. So you had a lot of hate from the fans, I remember.

I have, no, there were people in the house being nasty. Yeah. I don't remember that, yeah. Okay. Well, that does... Honestly, you did a pretty good job for several, several episodes where it was like, you just, you played possum, like, you didn't, like, you weren't really a part of the episode and it was like, oh, wait, you were voting,

someone out, you know? So that's good. That's what you want. And then you, became part of the so you went from like basically playing impossible to be part of the best alliance so like i mean played a pretty perfect game the only thing you could have done better is split it up and bin the big alliance yeah it killed the mob boss and been the mob boss well yeah i mean in my head i thought high sim i would have stuck with high sim actually because i was like he's going to win everything this is great and no one likes him yeah no one like he's a huge which was good point no i mean no other fans liked him also no i mean and high sim's really

nice actually I've put it but yeah but in the game I mean no you're saying in the game I mean people people from the challenge world say that's why Josh won yeah because he went against somebody that no one else liked even though he wasn't as well liked he was more like than the other guy you know what I picture high some like in his professional life and this is terrible but has everyone seen uh happy Gilmore the way Ben Stiller treats the grandma because isn't he like a senior citizen like doctor I haven't seen it yeah we're like he's like really nice and friendly but then he like hasn't working like in a sweatshop and like get to work Yeah, that always messes me up, dude.

Listen, I don't, getting old's not cool, but, like, people don't care, dude. Nurses and stuff, like, you never know. Like, you'll whip your grandma's ass and you'll never know it. No, they're harsh. If you say anything. Yeah, exactly. I'll kick your eyes. Grandma acts like she loves it there, but she's getting her assing.

No, well, huh? But I actually thought Jag was in the similar position where I didn't think he would necessarily have people's votes. So, I mean, that was the angle I was saying. Oh, because he was. Well, he just burned a lot of bridges. He was polarizing, yeah. It definitely was divisive.

So let's talk about the way that people voted, right? And this is something that I try to ask people that are in either the jury or in that final two, which is, do you think that when you're voting in the jury, you're more voting based on how much you enjoy who the person is or how well of a game they played? And this is important because for me, I felt up to the speech. Because I'm voting for my homies. I don't care what game played if my homie is in the top two. I'm voting for him even if you aced him out. And that's what that's the difference between. super fans. I think like Corey in America

are super fans. By the way, they played better than the other super fans, I'm just saying. Who are you calling out? Corey and America are super fans, but they're mids. Who are the bad super fans? Who are the rotten tomatoes? Actually, Felicia was a super fan and all she wanted

was scalps. And I'm like, and she's telling it right, and she's lying all the time. Scalps? As in like, um, getting people out? Yeah. She wanted for a resume. And I'm like, you are. A nasty old broad, huh? I was like, you are not getting through in the end, I don't think you realize, like, there's no way you're getting through the end. So.

Why would you say that? But we did keep her for quite a big because we're like, well, we're like, we really don't want to hear, but we definitely can beat her. Listen, if she was ripping fart, she's out in my book. I'm like, you got to go. Filthy, old. Stop, man. So, no, I would vote for my mates because I'm a loyal person.

Yeah. Me too. If my friends, even if my friend played a terrible game and he was like the, I would vote for him and probably say it out loud, be like, he didn't play a better game. but I'm not going for the other reason. At least my friend will take me out to dinner. The problem with Big Brother is who is your actual friend? That's the problem.

It is hairy in there. Right. Working out what's true. So like if I'm in a situation, I would feel like if I wouldn't last, I'd be the first one out because I'd be the dick to someone. You'd be a asshole with somebody and then whatever. If not a whole entire group of people. And you would win the comp.

You'd be a threat and that you go. I don't know how to feel if like, oh, somebody's my friend and then they're the reason I'm out. It's like, wait. why if we were stronger and then you went up against it shouldn't I feel more angry at you I don't know it's complicated yeah you'd get kicked out by someone you thought was your friend and you'd be at the next I hop sucking your thumb I'd be so annoyed I was gonna say the celery yeah I don't take I don't take games games easy man but no that's funny all right so let me ask you I would have been pissed I really would

were there any were there any well you didn't watch it but I was gonna say were there any fights or hookups that we didn't see. But is there any, like, stories that maybe hadn't been told or something that you want to share about your experience? I mean, I think it's been talked about that Blue and Jared. Oh, yeah. Might have been. I mean, I think it might have been on camera.

Yeah, no, that's, yeah, that's obvious. I actually have a question. So, like, let's say you have, like, a, you really like salami or, like, pepper jack cheese. Could you order that and have them deliver it every day? No, so you get one food delivery into the storage room? So could you be like, I need 24 salamis? No.

15 packets of pepper. Like, you can sort of ask for stuff, but they don't. Like, I'm like, please give me grapes, grapes. Because I was like, I'm not cooking in that kitchen with 4,000 people. Like. Could you say in the next order, could you bring me a number fucking seven from Ch, too? No, you can't. Yeah, hey, diary room.

I need a number seven next time you bring groceries. I even asked. Supersized me. He died. Yeah. Morgan Spurlock. Rest and peace, Morgan Spurlock. Round of applause for him, man.

Do you know Morgan Spurlock? Do you ever see supersized me? No. No. Oh, I know where you're talking about? He ate McDonald's every day for like what? I want to say like 90 days.

He died? Yeah, and his heart stopped. Well, no, he didn't die from that. He died from cancer. Oh. And then Bill Walton died from cancer.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I haven't watched it, but I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, so the group, you just, it's once a week. Once a week.

When the food runs out, you have to make do with what's there. Yeah. Could you add hot sauce to your slop? Yes. You could? Yeah. Oh, man.

I'll doctor that shit up. Could you fry it? Yep, you do whatever you wanted to. But guess what? Just don't go on the slough and have the protein shakes, is what I did. You don't have to have the slub. No, I would doctor that shit up. I'd make like fried slop.

Sloppy cold Medinas. That's wild. So when you drink the, you just drink a protein shakes basically. So you don't, you're not like a foodie. Like you don't care. I love going out to restaurants, but in the house with that many people in the kitchen, I was like, we're not moving. You just weren't hungry.

So how much weight did you lose? Just drink a food? I think maybe 10 pounds. Oh shit. Yeah. Oh, no, I had dinners every night, but protein shakes all day because it also was, protein makes she's not hungry. What was dinner? Well, Felicia would cook. What would she make? I don't know, like all sorts of things, like full on meals. Oh, because you're Australian. Yeah. So, okay, let's talk about Australia. Family meals. Let's talk about Australian cuisine. Yeah. What's like your favorite Australia? Like, if you had to take me and give me your favorite Australian meal, what would it be? So I don't think we

on the Barbie. We're very Asian influence. Gotcha. Well, that makes sense. Asian fusion, anything. You're not going to give me specifics? At barbecues, like, we have Barbies. So snags on the barbie. Snags? What's a snag? Sausage.

Oh, a sausage. Yeah. So are your shrimp like this big? How big is a prawn? Well, prawns can be like that big or little ones. I just feel like Australia is kind of like the Asian, Texas. Everything's bigger in Texas. So I just think, like, you have these killer spiders and them, you know,

them big old women with them, big old fucking out everywhere, and then you just probably got some, like, big old shrimps and prawns. Like, it's known for their Barbies, you know? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I love a good Barbie. Stand around having you drink a chat. So, sausage, what about, like, a, like,

you do, is there like Australian cattle? Is it a good steak there? Yeah, steak's good. Away goo has got to be great out there. Yeah, we eat kangaroo meat. Oh, shit. Yeah. What's that like? I mean, actually, I would feel a bit funny eating kangaroo meat now, but there was a time like that was a Culling kangaroos, so.

So if you're giving me a piece of kangaroo, is it medium rare? It's really high protein, no fat. All muscle. Yeah, you've got to be really careful. Just like a deer on H-G-H, fucking on test. You know what was funny in the house? Kangaroos can, like, smell a woman menstruating, and they'll, like, try to, like, hook up with her. What?

Wow. Have it to my friend at a ranch, her husband was getting jealous. You jokes right up. Oh, my God. Just like how dolphins can sniff that shit too. A kangaroo is like a dolphin on land. So when you kill a kangaroo, do you just beat its ass? What the fuck are you going to go?

Here's my question. So when you buy it, you go to the store. I'll have, is it like I'll have a T-bone from a kangaroo or is it pretty specific? I usually buy it like marinated and diced. But I wouldn't, honestly, I wouldn't have kangaroo now. That was more like 10 years ago. Yeah. Well, what does it taste like chicken?

It's really nice. Is it red meat? I think people say it's a bit like deer. Oh, venison. And that makes sense. Okay. Is it still commonplace? Do we know that?

I don't know if we know that. I don't know. Like, it might be a bit of a bad thing to be eating kangaroo. Did the people who made it, did they wear, were they wearing shoes? Bro. I got no idea. The air goes crazy. No, when I was in South Africa and I broke my nose, I called my dad.

And I'm like, hey, dad, like, I got to get, you know, my nose reset. And I'm in South Africa. This is a great story. And my dad's on the phone. And this is, again, like, I'm pretty bummed out because I'm in Final Reckoning, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, so should I get it reset? in South Africa and he goes let me ask you something. I'm like yeah he goes when you're in the doctor's office

he's like were there chickens and other animals walking around I'm like no it was like a tile floor was a nice doctor he's like yeah you should be fine but he's thinking South Africa right? Yeah right well like Australia like I've seen Crackadel Dundee like is kangaroo red meat? Yes. So you could have kangaroo fajitas. You could

but you just would do it like marinate what would you marinate your room like I would have it on the barbecue to be honest so like marinate chuck that on the barbie as well, some sausages. Would you just slap it on a bun with some muster and ketchup? Or you just going straight meat to mouth? I mean, when it's diced like that, probably straight meat to mouth. Oh, there you go.

You don't make a sandwich out of it? Like a pulled kangaroo Sammy? With the sausage in a bun. Or in some bread with ketchup or tomato sauce, as we like to say. Tomato sauce. So you call it, would you call, like, would you have spaghetti there? Is there Australian spaghetti? It's the same as yours.

Bro, come on, now you're reading, J.B. All right, listen, what's the biggest difference? This guy. He's going crazy. What is the difference between Bowie Jane in the Big Brother House versus Boie Jane in real life? Are you exactly the same? If I may interject, it said her name is . That's the difference.

No, no, I'm Boie Jane in America. In America? No. Oh, so your legal name in America is? No, but I'm only, like, you know when someone's got a nickname, that's me, I'm Bowie. Yeah. So I really know that's all I use. You know what's crazy, Pierre, is you haven't, you're fucking rude.

But you haven't asked her, how did you get that nickname? Just, my middle name's Jane. And Bowie, I had, I was wearing, it's really dumb. No, I say this story. It's probably amazing. It's really dumb. No, it's not amazing. I promise you, I won't make funny.

Okay, it was just that I was wearing a lot of bows in my hair at the time. Love it. Absolutely love it. And I love your outfit today. Can we run an applause with this outfit, though? Wow. So you are gorgeous, by the way. Oh, thank you.

That was a name that you got from like your family. Yeah, no, just a nickname with friends. Oh, friends. Yeah. A lot of bows, gotcha. It's a great nickname. Yeah, so that's all I go by now. It went, it lived.

A lot of nicknames die in the brainstorming session, you know? But it was good because when I was doing the law, you Googled me, which is now not the case. But if you Googled me, only law stuff came up under that name, only music under that name. So that's just straight bullshit That's called being a bullshit artist In America everything comes up Mugshots Oh I know it's very different over here

Tick picks Stop it not mine I was gonna say maybe for you not for me Who do you If you are I would hope not Oh no way I didn't answer that question I'm no different at all in the house To outside the house

Except I would have told people to get fucked And never spoken to them again If I wasn't in the house Right yeah Like I wouldn't have put up a shit It's really nice. But you didn't really put... Did you get a lot of shit from people?

Like, there were people who drive me crazy, and I just wouldn't be friends with some of those people. Yeah, because in real life, you can walk out the door. Yeah, I'd be like, you are a psychopath, so... Yeah, who was a psychopath? I mean, it's pretty obvious. Yeah. No, look, the people who are volatile in the house and not coping,

I think it was pretty evident, and they left. So, yeah. No, I'm sure they're nice outside the house. No, no, actually. No. Yeah. I can't remember anyone else from that season for... Luckily you can't.

But you did get to play with Surrey. I didn't mind Surrey. She was amazing, wasn't she? Yeah, I didn't mind Seren. I don't think she liked me, but I didn't mind her. But she can play the game, and so you never know with her. If I ever did a show with Surrey, I would not trust a word that came out of her mouth. Her biggest detriment was having her son in there because she was not playing the game.

Her biggest detriment is that she's an absolute legend of a survivor, and you're never going to let a person. Like if you let someone who's got that much game experience, make it too far in the game, you're screwed. Only the one girl know that? No, we all knew. I knew within three seconds. Someone had told them. No, no, no. Only one girl knew that Jared was her son.

Oh, yes. Easy. But for the most part, everyone knew who Surrey was. And if you didn't, they filled you in. And at the time, she's a survivor. Listen, I don't watch Survivor and I don't watch Pillow Fight and CVS, but I knew who Surrey Fields was. No, but the reality is you have to win some comps at the end.

So you're never going to win Big Brother if you can't win. Right. You have to win Combs at the end to basically, pretty much to win Big Brother, but you can make it to the end without winning comps. Yeah. Big D. Totally. Big D made it to the end and he didn't win shit besides America's heart.

Bigger for Big D. He brought more energy on this couch than Denver Bronco Stadium when Russell Wilson was the quarterback. We spoke to him this morning. He's hilarious. He is hysterical. You guys would get along really well. Yeah, I always said I would align with him if I was in the game. So who outside of this house are you still cool with, if any of these people are?

Do you consider any of them? friends are they acquaintances or yeah speak to korean america a bit um jag matt you said just said that they were super fans yeah but like and they admit it like they well they knew all they were talking on all past people yeah but they're super smart like they knew exactly they played it quite well i thought they played the game well so and he had one of the most disgusting dirt stashes to ever grace reality television um i i know those are your friends it was top 20 dirt stashes hey oh absolutely dirt stashes are supposed to be disgusting for sure dude Back from the 80s.

Riley as well. Riley as well. Okay, I know, it was a tough question for me to ask you, but from what you saw, do you think they'll go to the distance, Korean America, TV relationship? Only if he grows out a rat tail, go with that mustache.

I have no idea. Don't care. They look to her in Nashville, right? Yeah, they're like so solid. They're inseparable, huh? Okay, good luck to them. All right, how about this? It's very comfortable when you crawl at each other's asses.

They don't give a shit about anything. So their live feeds are hilarious. Like, they just, Don't give it. Yeah. Oh, like on Instagram on TikTok Live.

Yeah. On the show. No, seriously, because they, that would say whatever. Oh, good.

I mean, yeah, it would be, they'd be a fun interview. He's still in college? Yeah. He was finishing law school. That was just a funny thing to ask.

He's still in college? Fuck you. All right. Is there a big? Does DoorDash deliver? How much celery? They probably think you're fucking, I'm high.

And they're probably a horton an elephant in your apart. in your condo. Dude, this is the 10th delivery of celery. This guy spent fucking $2,500 bucks today on celery. I'm celery stoned. Juice in it.

Is there a Big Brother player that you really wanted to meet and got to meet? And then is there someone that you do want to still meet out there from Big Brother Universe? Or do you not care about any of these people? I mean,

like, I wouldn't say I'm idolizing anyone, but I've met some great people from other seasons, which is, I did not expect that. Like, Tiffany and Nicole. Yes. Awesome.

Mike Nicole She was In last season Not my season Yes she was in 24 I think she was with Matty in them

Spiky hair No idea Yeah she was here We went to the Pistons game Really nice girl Yeah Oh

Yeah Okay Yeah Oh okay Yeah And okay We get it bro Derek X

Is hilarious I thought he was hilarious I'm hung out With him a bit So yeah He reminds me of Chet Do you remember Chet? No, but he does seem like a fun game.

You remember Chet. You don't know Chet because Chet was from the challenge back in my day. How does he remind you with Chet? Both very witty, both very intelligent. They seem like they're very comfortable in front of a crowd. Way to put me on the spot, dickhead. So I'm just curious. I mean, so he played amazing race and he played Big Brother, right?

Yeah. And did he win Amazing Race? Yeah, he win his girl. Nice. That's why. That went on his season. Big Brother people on anymore. Would you?

Yeah, because that. Is that, is that, is that, is that, is that, logistics and big brother? I mean, I heard that rumor. That they're not going to put Big Brother people on. I don't know if it's true, but I mean, I mean, shoot. You know what I would think it would be funny if they took, like, they grabbed people like that were like three quarters away through Survivor. And we're like, hey, we're going to give you like a five-day break and just dumped them in the fucking Big Brother house like coyotes. Oh my God.

Oh my God. And they'd be like, food. Like they build a brush their teeth. Sirree said this is way hard than Survivor. Absolutely. Yeah. Because imagine being not giving anything and then being dumped in the Big Brother House. I'd be eating, scratching my nuts, and snoring, like, nonstop.

Feeling super comfortable. Like, how many days left? No, you can't nap in the house, so you have to wake up. Oh, yeah. You ever try to wake me up from? You ever try to wake me up for me or try to wake a grizzly bear up from hibernation? That's what's like trying to wake me up for the first three hours. I'm going to sleep.

Don't do it. It doesn't happen. Yeah. You can't. Like, Jenna Fizzily cannot wake me up if I'm, if it's within, after three or four hours, like, I'll wake up. But within that first hour and a half. Trance. Yeah, dude, big brother would be, there would be alarms going off.

I'd be like, heart. Heart rate be at like seven beats per minute. We would hear that with Jared. They couldn't wake Jared up a lot. Yeah. I'm like that. There's people like that. Yeah.

Some people sleep walk. I sleep walk. Oh, but I don't think I did in the house. Yeah. Are there any other TVs that, are there any other TV shows that you watch and would want to be on? The challenge. Mm-hmm.

Love it because you're actually doing physical challenges. Put it out there. So who are the people that you're like? You've been just watching the one right now. All stars. Yeah. So who's your favorite? but second favorite person

and after Tony, go ahead. Nicole. Nicole? You like Nicole? Yeah. And you like to... Actually, Cam, I think,

playing a pretty smart game. Yeah. So I think... Why Nicole? Let's hear why Nicole. You like to live... She's just cool. You think so.

Like, yeah. It's cool. She's awesome. Love Nicole. Like, she's sporty. She doesn't give a shit. She's still friendly as well. Like, she's someone other language.

I would fucking pay so much money to have you guys have a conversation in front of me. Like, just good. Just to hear those two go back and forth with the accents. Oh, yeah, her accent's cool. Oh, my gosh. You would have no idea what she was saying. You'd be amazing.

We'd have subtitles. You would definitely have subtitles. I can understand Nicole pretty perfectly. Oh, yeah. Now when she gets mad, you heard her yelling? No, you're right. Not yet. She wouldn't need subtitles for me as well.

Well, sometimes I needed you to just like, I need to think, like, what does that mean? Like a snap. I know why they called a snap. Yeah. Prawns, I've had prongs. A snag, yeah. A snag. I thought snap because, like, sausages will snap, you know.

Oh, yeah. When they get too hot. And the fat will spray out. Hopefully there'll be a USA3. Pierre won't know that for a while because you can't grill a celery. I don't. You can't. I've grilled quite a few in my day.

Celery sticks. Okay, so the challenge, hopefully there is a USA3, and you do feel like you'd be equipped to do well in a game like that? Yeah, I mean, I would get training for it. But honestly they'll throw you on the flagship you don't got to do shit just say you want to do it. They'll throw you on I promise I definitely be like wait done in like I just need to work on my grip strength. I think for a lot of those challenges Like things that grip strength initially really I mean that's kind of frightening that you picked up on that because if someone ever asked me what you need to be good at the challenge I would say grip strength top five grip strength sprints are like

Sprints aren't going to kill you but they're going to give you a very big advantage if you are super fast at some point in the game. Like if you're not super fast, you can get through it. But if you're fast, like, if you're sprint fast, it will come in handy at some point and give you a huge advantage. But not crucial as grip strength

is huge. Grip strength is huge. Grip strings, like, so many challenges, isn't it? And even like the popping of the ball one, that, holding your arms above your head, like I was thinking that would be burning. Yeah, muscular endurance. Yeah. So I think I would say, muscular endurance, grip strength. Obviously,

if you don't have a gag reflex you're already way ahead of the game for the eating competition if you can just eat nasty shit which you mean come on it's a big part of the challenge you haven't seen it a lot you haven't seen it in this season yet

but it is a big part you can get through not being able to eat nasty shit but if it comes up and you're good at it it could win the whole thing for you so I'd want to practice that I think well yeah some people do some people don't you just have to put yourself in a different mindset you think that until

it's in your mouth and then you're like yeah Until it's in your mouth, you think that. I always thought I was mentally tough until I had that shit in my mouth. Yeah, so. Yeah. There'd be the two things that work on. Also, maybe core stuff because I imagine there's some balanced stuff.

Yeah, balance is a bit. Balance is big. Oh, balance. Yeah. Balance and core, same idea. I got it. But yeah, no, for sure. Basically everything.

Yeah. So for you, you wouldn't, you're much more confident in like, well, even though I thought you did play a good, you know, mental, like, strategic game, but you want to be physical. You want to be competitive. Yeah. I want to play some actual, like, that would be. like guys it's an athletic comp today and I was like all right let's go. Big brother athletic stuff isn't

athletic. It would be like you would I would be stretching my Achilles you know make it warming up on the bike which they wouldn't have shown I was fully warming up stretching and then it would be the physical part of it would be like one step and I was like it was always the one where you had to fill up the large bucket with like the tiny like little ladle and you run back and forth

was that the slippery one yeah yeah that was that was kind of physical I mean that's nonstop running for over an hour if you do it like yeah that did you do that one? Yeah, I did. How'd you do? I wasn't puff, but I slipped over quite a lot. So that wasn't what I was expecting. I don't know how I did because I only gave the first three and it was Jag mat and Jared. Did you try on that? Yes, I did. Oh, you did. Was it tough for you or was it just kind of like, yeah. The slippery part was a little tricky. So the slipping and staying like level

footed was harder than the endurance part for you. Yeah, also. Oh yeah, not the endurance is not a problem. Got it. Because I'd been training quite a lot to get in there ready for my physical chance. challenges, which I was going to throw. That's the tough part about the Big Brother House is like you really can't be good at anything or let anyone know that. No, it's so annoying. And also like you can't look too strategic stuff at the start. Don't talk too much strategy.

Just listen, you know. And you still had the three HOH victories, correct? Yeah. That's like so different from real life. Because in real life, like you want to be recognized for what you're good at. You want to be celebrated. You want, you know, to benefit off of it. But in like Big Brother, you've got to act like you're just like some like.

Middle of the road. loser. And also like, oh, whatever you got to, you know, but the other thing I had to be careful of. It is a game. Being too laid back, I thought there's a chance that's going to put me up as a pawn. And so I had to also, whenever I heard those conversations say, well, I really put my foot down about it. I will not be happy with that. And I will be targeting those people, which is a risk saying that.

I knew that was a risk, but it works. So I never got nominated. Very nice. So would you ever play this game again? are you done with it? Actually, I'd rather do the challenge. Yeah. Or Amazing Race or something.

But the challenge would be awesome. Also, the thing about the challenge is everyone's a like-minded. Someone like me, like, as in we're athletic people, that would be fun to me. You want to compete against competitive people? Yeah, I do. Yeah. So, and as far as Big Brother, I mean, I'd probably do it again. But it's like, it'd be interesting because I'd know a lot more, I think.

I guess if you're going to go back, it also depends how much they're paying. Yeah. Because I'd go play Big Brother if the price was right. It's four months. I was in there for 15 weeks. I thought the time of Big Brother without being connected is like, for me, like I said, it's a long time. I'd lose my mind in that situation. Well, every week you're glad you're still there.

So that's the other thing is you think it doesn't feel long in a way because you're like, oh, I'm here another week. I'm here another way. Yeah, you're like clamoring for it. So let's talk about your passions again, your DJing. Talk to us about what you're doing now and what we can kind of tap into. Yeah, so... Are you on Spotify? Yes.

Hell, yes. I'm going to jam you in parking lots. I'm going down the techno path with music. So I've come from quite a pop music background and I sing the vocals and stuff. And I'm just doing less and less vocals. Do you have an accent when you sing? Actually, no, Australians. I cannot.

I know, we sing with an American accent. I can't even speak with an American accent. You hear these songs, you're jamming to them. And then they're like, oh, listen to this, you know, interview by the artist. And you're like, what? Yeah. Not even so you sing in an American accent. Yeah, because we grew up on American music.

Yeah, you Australians are all cheaters in a place. Cheaters of the liars. That's it. I love them all. I love them all. Yeah, so I'm just concentrating on, I've been doing lots of bootlegs, producing, because I produce myself, so doing the bootlegs, producing new songs, and, yeah, just trying to push out lots of music this year, as well as gigs.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Is there like a project we should be looking out for, anything that you want to promote, anything that we can tell our people, or we should just stay tuned to your socials? Well, everything's definitely going to be on my Instagram, which is DJ Bowie Jane,

but I've got a podcast, Babes Behind the Beats, we interview females in the music industry, but not just the singers, like the people were working backstage. Pierre could be a babes behind. There we go. If I decide in this country. You could be a babe. I mean, you know, I'm sub-bate.

Females and non-binary we interview. So, yeah, it's, there you go. There you go. Okay, so yeah, that was a great conversation. Is there anything you want to talk about while you have the platform? I actually do have a question. Come on. So you're a musical artist, right?

Would you say you are more of behind the scenes, like make the music type of artist, or do you prefer to be in front of everyone just jam and playing? Sometimes, like, musicians are like creeps and they want to, they're just like artists, and they just want to make music. and playing it in front of people they do because they feel like they have to but then there's other people who just want to be out in front and they don't care they're just you know

but like are you more of like the artist or are you more of the performer? 100% the performer I love revving up the audience I love that it's a workout on stage you know it's 1,800 calories from after my gig I'm like holy shit You keep track of your steps?

Yeah because I'm like you know if I see the audience falling flat I'm revving them up so whereas I think a lot of producers maybe aren't like that And so you do see a lot of DJs who aren't moving and they're not very interesting to watch. So I'm trying to do both. I mean, look, I think it was either TikTok live or Instagram live,

but you were doing a set in the crib and I literally watched it for like 10 minutes. I'm like, she's vibing. Yeah, I did do TikTok live. I think it was TikTok and I was like, oh, she is vibing right now. So I could only, so I could literally, but I could only imagine how fun. Can't get a rest of thinking Molly in your house. No, you can't. You can't.

Do you have like a little mason jar? are full of molly's ready to make music oops I would not want to like now I'm a I'll have a few drinks before I perform

and then if usually I'm too busy drink just a protein shake no I drink a protein shake I drink two gatorades two gatorades in the performance usually a Gatorade like it's I'm so thirsty

I know it's orange juice you know what why do you drink so much orange juice you know what I'm so thirsty yeah for more Get me on my own joke Well that is actually a real good point

I'm curious because we just had a music festival here Called movement yeah Are you familiar with it? Yeah Because a lot of people going from ADC Were coming to perform Isn't Detroit where Homer Techno?

Did you tell me that? Jenna told me that Jenna's brother found that out in Amsterdam So shout out to Detroit Because we have Motown We started Did we start gangster rap? I don't think we started

We didn't start gangster, but we have M&M, we have Motown, and now we have, what is it called? Electro Techno. Techno. No, this has been a long time. It's not, didn't just happen. I know. I'm just found out. It is a new thing to me.

That is crazy. Yeah. Detroit. I literally flew in expecting to see techno everywhere. I was like, I'm in the home of Teno. It's underground. It's underground, baby. We like to keep it street in Detroit.

We don't want everyone to know we're good at it, but we start it. We keep it straight. It's so underground that you didn't know. People always ask me, it's so underground. Yeah. So people always ask me, like, what's the difference between homeless people in Detroit and homeless people in different cities? Because people, and I just say, in different cities, the homeless people will rob you for your money. But in Detroit, they're going to harvest your organs because they cost more.

That's the difference of Detroit. Good tonight. Good tonight. All right. Well, welcome to the city. That's just how hardcore we are. That's why when the lions are good, things are good. But, you know.

Yeah, we got to keep them a good team. Real quick, I do want to ask you about the music scene, the electronic, the techno scene, what do you like about it? Is there anything you don't like about it? But like, just because you had, you had, you know, those conversations, those connections with some of those big guys. And hopefully, you know, you were able to reach that status. But, like, what is your favorite part about it? I love the energy of performing. So, but I also like the journey of the bloody hustle, quite frankly.

It's a massive hustle being a musician. And it's been going for years. I'd be dead if I was a musician. It is too much. It is putting the puzzle pieces together. So like it's who knows who. I mean, you've also got to be good, of course, or else you're not going to make it. Yeah.

You got to work hard. You've got to stick at the game for a long time. So I love the journey. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Like what, like how much longer are you, like you just loving it and this is like what you're going to do? No end in sight. No, the plan would be just until I dropped dead.

So, which is hopefully a while away. There you go. Yeah, touch wood. There's an awesome conversation. Anything you want to talk about? I mean, that they had this platform. Unless my organs get harvested in just Detroit.

Just don't go out on the wrong streets. I was going to say. Those are, you know what I'm saying? Possibilities according to this guy. But yeah, anything else you want to talk about before we take off? No,

I think we've covered quite a lot here. We have. We have. Thank you for giving us your time and coming through to Detroit. It was a lot, a lot of fun. And everybody,

make sure you follow Bowie Jane. Yeah, where are you going from Detroit? So where did you come? Did you come from L.A. From L.A., yes. And then New York. I'm going to New York. Oh, nice.

Where at? Brooklyn. Okay. Yeah. And then... Another great place for electronic tunes. Yeah. So I've heard.

Yeah. Because I didn't know that, you know. I'm all new to this. You know all about dance music. That's what I've noticed. That's his passion. Yeah. That and celery.

Well, not as much as some of us. Actually, I don't even know the last time I had a piece of celery. All right. If I did have celery, it would have had peanut butter. butter and raisins. Ants on a log. Have you ever had that? It's an American treat.

No. What about corn dog? Oh, no, I had it for the first time. I was like... A corn dog? Yeah, no. You're trying to go through some American things that you may or may not have tried.

She's American, bro. Cornbread I had for the first time. Oh, that's... It was okay. It's just like... Was it dry? No, it's nice. It was nice.

It was moist. It should be like cake. You don't say that word. Yeah, it was like cake. But that is the only way to describe cornbread. If it's not more... Moist is not good. Yeah.

Moist. You heard it at your first. You've got to be moist. Looks like you two are getting a little moist right now. Guilty. All right, that's it. I think we'll see you. Anything else?

All right. All right, we'll see it. Bye.