The Zach Nichols Podcast - The Theo Campbell Interview! | ZNP EP. 144

Episode Date: January 9, 2026

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Yes, guys, I'm Theo Campbell, and this is the Zach Nichols podcast. The truth is finally out. The propaganda has been spoken about. Watch here. Don't miss. All right. Welcome back to the Zach Nichols podcast. We're here.

Very special guests, the star of season 41. Give it up for Theo Campbell. Theodore Campbell. Oh, should put the headphones on? Yeah, throw those boys on. Yeah, welcome to class. We just jumped straight into it. We did.

We didn't give me the headphones on. That's up. You don't have to wear them, but I think the only person that has not worn them is Cam. Because she had a big ass hat on. She was like, I'm good. Yeah, she's out of straight. It's going to mess my look. I'll get here.

You so much bad. Hey. So clear. Congratulations. Thank you. Another round of applause. Another of two. Congratulations on the cream pie.

Finally. You know, I know how that goes. I don't miss. Only he can really say that since he's done it four times. Bro, I can't walk by Jenna without getting her pregnant. Oh, it's four and counting, too. I know. You don't know.

over ahead of me. So yeah, so father or two. Yeah. How does it feel? I was postpartum going. Do you know what? At the moment, obviously having a newborn, Olivia is losing out on a lot more sleep at a moment because she's breastfeeding.

But she's doing quite well. You know, I think I'm quite lucky. Like, our baby isn't much of a cryer. Oh my gosh. So I feel quite, I know my first son, he was a crier. So it was a bit tougher. And he was bottle fed from the beginning. but this is

Atlas is breast fed Atlas He's not too much Bad ass name by the way We made a point to be like Yo what a name Like how did that come about Well my first son is called

Ares That's the god of war And I was like I gotta give him I gotta give You know Atlas a powerful name as well And the differences in names

Meina Livia is coming up with She is coming up with like These American names Or like greeny Or leafy or cloudy And I was like Look you have be, you know, on the starting lineup of the Olympic final one day or something great and be called

something silly like that. And I was like, ah, and I did chuck out some other names, like Cyrus and Osiris and some things like that. That was a now. I was like, well, about Atlas? The bear, the, what's he? The bearer of the heavens and earth holds it all up. I was like, he's going to be great one day. She was like, all right, we go, we go Atlas. Yeah, sick. And he already has a logo because it's the guy holding up the earth, right? Exactly. He got us like a signature logo. Atlas Campbell in the building. So we got so much to talk to you. By the way,

thank you for coming all the way from Phoenix, Arizona. It's a lot closer than London, though. Oh, my God. How long are you able to stay in America forever now? I have a visa. Yeah, I have a visa. Explain to me someone who might not know the rules, what that means. Ah, it means I can save it six months at a time.

Gotcha. So, yeah. So, yeah, I haven't really saved more than three months. I haven't been there three months so far, I don't think. So, yeah, it's working out. Yeah, well at the moment. Yeah. Doing a little back and forth.

That's crazy. That's a pretty wild back and forth. I'm like Genghiskan, you know. I'm populating the earth continent by continent. I would love. I would love. Listen, you got one son Atlas. He's going to take over the world.

You got Aries. I mean, shit. I mean, it is, look, we'll get into fatherhood a little bit later. But do you want to start at the most recent season? Or do you want to start at the start of his career, which he was the hot shot coming out, war of the world. one. Apparently still is a hot shot after this season. It stole the show. Yeah, let's

do the Battle of the Year's. Definitely on Twitter. Oh, we're going Twitter. We can go to a lot of places with you, Theo, to be honest, because you're just like that you're like that guy that just knows how to get under people's skin. Do you know what? You're very good at it. And the tweets,

I look forward to him every week. It's like, Pauli wasn't on 41, so it's like, oh, Theo was like, hey, let me fill those shoes and just have the hottest Twitter fingers in the nation in the world. Playing pure defense, all right? Because I, being on the show and being attacked relentlessly, you know, as you've seen. And I was like, yeah, I was, I was definitely the underdog, definitely had the hardest path to the final, blah, blah, blah. But then I come off the show and I was getting,

like, it's your fault this, your fault. And I was like, hang on to say, how are you spinning? I know everyone has different, you know, perspectives on how their version of the show was. But I was like, there's your own opinion on it and what actually happened overall. And, you know, hearing everyone coming out saying, this is your fault, this is Olivia's fault. But I'm like, no, there's a difference between being someone's fault and being, playing part of the game. And when I come off to the show, I was like, you guys don't what you're done. Part of the game, I don't think it's a very good way to play the game.

But, you know, that's, that's how it goes. But then it come out and it'd be like, oh, everything's, you know, this happened because you done this and you done this and you did this. I was like, what did I do? I was just kind of there at the beginning before it kind of went into the locking. And, you know, we only had one real up at the beginning. That was Johnny. But he got himself out.

So me and Olivia was just after that, just like, oh, what's going to happen? And then we come to the lock-in. And I was like, apparently, Theo, you lose the vote. We're all coming for you. And I was like, what did I do? So tweeting that somebody cleans their butthole with a Q-tip is just straight defense to you. Yeah, do you know what it was? Do you know what?

Because I didn't realize it was that graphic. I don't go as low as someone takes me, all right? I won't go there first ever. I didn't even, I didn't even like tweeting. But when I was like, I have done in the past, I went to World Wars II. I went on World of Wars II. And when Paulie and everyone, it was coming for me,

they'd done it because I was the best. You know, I was the, all the best on my side. It made sense to get me out. No, no, no, no, no. That's what they said. You were, you and Joss, I would say. Yeah, yeah. That's why my vote always went at you guys in World War the Worlds, too.

but they went for you because they had predetermined alliances coming in. Yeah, and it was Rogan and Joss. So that was the excuses why they were throwing you in, but it was really because you weren't working with them. All right, all right. Wasn't working with them. Because you were on the Johnny side. All right, on the other side.

Johnny, Georgia, Jenny. And then if you were smart, you would know what me and CT did and just kind of ride the middle the whole way. Well, do you know what I'd done at the beginning? At the beginning, because it was like, there was Team UK and Team USA. Team USA was full of just champions and finalists.

It was a juggernauts. Yeah, yeah. It was this finalist and champions and Josh. All right. Team UK, we had a few finalists. All right. There's a few finalists. And we had like four people

who never even worked out before. So I come in and go, all right, I've sized everyone up. I was like, your shit, your shit, your shit. Before you know, I've pointed out by eight people. I've already turned the numbers against myself. I go, the only people want to see in this final who are good enough to win because I was naive back then. You, you, you, you and you and you, you know, Joss, Georgia, didn't like Rogan, so I didn't include him. Yeah, I got a question about Roe.

From then on there, all right, well, Theo's against us. One, he's on the other side. And two, he's the leader of this little rebellion. Yeah, the rebellion. But on War II, though, I still kind of sat back and was like, all right, I'm just taking it. I didn't really try and get myself out that situation. I'm just like, all right, I'm just going to keep winning until I get to the final. Until I finally broke.

I was like, actually, I don't want to win on Team USA or Team UK. Then I went against Jordan and then just lost anyway. But this season, I was like, it's happening again. You should have switched sides and just come over our team. Because they would have been the same. No, it wouldn't have. You don't think? No, because then we, if you would have done it after your first or second 11th nation round

or the one you beat Kyle, we would have had numbers because it would have been, because then at that point, I could have voted with my side instead of playing the middle. But it would have been you, Nani, me, Josh, Jordan, and Tori. We would have had the numbers if you would have switched sides. That's why every single time I was like, come on, come on. I mean, no one told me to. You know, only people talking to me is Pauline out.

I was like, we're just going to chuck you in if you're going to this side as well. I was naive, you know, I didn't really know too much that. Back in the day, man, when you're a rookie, which is very appropriate because this new season, all rookies, right? When you're a rookie, you don't understand the game, which is why to me, it's not spoken about how awesome of a season, whatever happened in the final, having the final, but how awesome of a season you actually had from a physical standpoint going into four eliminations and leading a partner, because leading a partner is a lot different than going by yourself. But then you also flip the numbers in your side. Like, it's just not spoken about how awesome of a season it was, at least from my fan opinion. That's what happens when you win four elimination rounds and take out the whole other alliance.

eventually people are like, I don't want to deal with this anymore, you know. Speaking of, speaking of Rogan, you guys obviously had a rocky past on War of the Worlds Two, which was probably the last time you competed together until this season. And we didn't get to see a lot of Rogan because he went home first again. And a terrible display enough. Yeah, that was. I always scream. Do you know what?

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