The Zach Nichols Podcast - The Will Gagnon Interview! | ZNP EP. 129

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

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What up, y'all? It's Will, season 41 of the challenge on the Zach Nichols podcast, talking all the tea, all the juice. You're not going to want to miss this. Tune in. Welcome back to the Zach Nichols podcast. I'm here with an obviously confused Pierre. What? What's up? Oh, hey, we do a podcast. What's up guys? But more importantly, shut up, Will Gagnan. Dare to say one of the best new threats up there with top, top notch. There's no question. Another round of applause, then. A little late, the crowd needs to get out of that.

Entertainment-wise, A-plus, competitive-wise, A. Leading the house in hookups. I don't know about that. Oh, my question is,

you don't know about that? Is that not factual? I don't know if I'm the lead, but, you know, she didn't get pregnant. Sure, no.

My. All right, I just my phone. Sure, okay. All right, maybe not. She did spend a lot of time in Mexico after the season, so we don't know.

But what I will say is, did she make you feed her her arthritis medicine and rub icy hot on her back after you got done with her every single time? Nothing. None of that. She tried cuddling, had to shut that down to. Oh, the old, the old woman tried to cuddle? She tried getting in my bed. Whoa. Listen, listen, I need some peace.

I need some sleep. Listen, you old hag. I can throw that out. That's terrible. I mean, dude, she could be your mom. Bro, chill, chill, bro. Chill, bro. She's 36, isn't she?

I thought you were in your... I'm 29. Oh, okay. I thought you were way younger. No, never mind. I appreciate that. She couldn't be your mom. Does the math check?

No, the mat doesn't check out. That math doesn't check. I thought you were way younger and I thought she was older. No, but what he could... 36. How is she younger than me? That doesn't make sense. Bro, you're old, dude.

Number one. Number two, she, she definitely, like, she definitely went from, like, senior in high school to, like, way young. So she reached out. She found the fountain of you. She did, if you will. And we'll get to all that. There's a will.

There's a way. Yeah. There was a will and there was a way. So first of all, think we're making the trip, you know, on a short notice. We don't, most of the time we have a lot of these guests booked out months in advance or at least weeks. But you were down to come within a week. So thanks for making the trip, bro. And I fucking love that you flew out of John Wayne.

Yeah. Yeah, he goes, L.A. I go, nah, John Wayne's like five minutes. So I'm not going to make that. Not only that. It's so much easier. Do it way easier. Yeah.

The smaller airport. That's sick. So anyways, thanks for making the trip out here. Let's dive right into it. You know, this episode starts. We come back from the lock-in. But first, let's talk about that mini-final. You know, before that mini-final, we see the scoreboard and you have been performing as, you know,

you have the chance if you do well in this mini-final to be the first-place new threat, male. Put yourself in a position to pick your own partner. At this point, like, how did you feel that you were performing among, the other new threats there. And then why aren't the women highly coveting you and vocalizing that? Because it seems very clearly that you're doing really well.

Yeah, everyone wants to Yermy. Makes no sense. You know, I don't know. I think I just had like the underdog mentality. Like people weren't really watching me. I kind of stayed under the radar because I wasn't doing too much. Yermie had a, you know, big target on his back. That's what happened.

Yeah, when you win that race. So then everyone's like, oh, year me, Yermie, year me. But like, I mean, I'll credit to him. That's just one mountain of all the things that you have to do in the rest of the game. And obviously, I'm doing something right since I'm on top of the board. You know, um, so I don't know. You can talk your shit a little bit.

Here's my question. Did Yermy cheat on the eating portion? I don't think he did. But then again, it looked like the eating portion humbled him quite a bit. Oh yeah. He couldn't eat. He couldn't eat at all. He knew.

Listen. He knew right away. It takes a special breed of human to eat like that. That's why I was up there, baby. So do you consider yourself a great eat? eater when it comes to nasty stuff or what? Let me tell you, I've been in some nasty places. I'm going to eat, all right?

ate your way out of those places. Antimones got him ready for the eating challenge. Girl. That pepper wasn't spicy for the money. Tell you that much. Shish. Yo. For the record, sign me up for that buffet, but

you consider yourself a good eater. I don't think you could handle that. I mean, dude, honestly, it's more about, like, you just got to get past fucking pain. Like, who cares? It's going to burn, but it's, You're just eating, you know, it's not like you're an actual pain pain of like, fuck man, like, oh, I'm fucking dying here.

No, just eat the shit, get through it. It's more of a mental thing. It's not the eating. It's when it comes out that really gets you. Oh, yeah. When I took off, I was throwing up going up the hill and it fucking burned. My ass was burning too for the pad last week. Oh, but, yeah, dude.

Listen, I shit out an entire whole chicken foot one time. Yeah. Literally the whole thing, there was a claw in the toilet. So eating challenges are like my never. I cried before my first eating challenge. Oh, wow. Well, no, my first one where I actually had to eat. Because my first one, I was like, yeah, not touching it.

I'll go to elimination. Foxy. And me, I'm just like, fuck, it's just eating. You can do it. But if it was like, I don't know, fucking tarantula, like dried, you know, tarantula or something like I, I'd be like, fuck. What about bull testicles and intestines? Would you be able to handle that?

I think I would just because, like, for me mentally eating, I'm like, fuck it, dude, just eat it. Because I know they're not going to do it. Yeah. for sure. That's why me and Turbo fucking took off CT right behind, you know. So, yeah. I knew that everybody.

Absolutely savage. He, so when we first started doing this podcast and like I'm just, I'm still learning and I don't know what, what is important? And he would always mention eating like, I'm like, bro,

what the fuck does that matter? But in these finals, in these situations, that's the difference a lot of times. It could give you an hour, like depending on if there's a time limit or whatever. Right. Like it,

like you said, CT didn't run a single minute on that mountain and he finished. He would have finished first if he didn't give Turbo the answer. Yeah. Because he literally shows up. Basically, he food processed it through his face and he was on his way. Eating is huge.

If you can eat, you're a valuable challenger and especially someone you want a final. Absolutely. For sure. Yeah. No, that to me, I mean. My question, though, is did that mini final? It didn't seem like that mini final gained CT much respect from the women. But you even saw Justin basically say like, listen, I watched CT dominate that mini final.

Did that mini final give him more respect? Um, I would say yes and no. I think yes, obviously, because he whooped everyone's ass, you know. Um, and then I would say no because the girls are probably just thinking, oh, well, now he's just putting out because he's by himself. And it's like, well, no, what's the fucking singles challenge? So what am I, you know? Yeah.

He's still CT. He's still one of the greatest to ever, you know, walk into the challenge house. So you can't, you know, really discard. Right. It's also kind of what he said, too, which is like, I never said I could climb an unstable ladder. but hey you give me something where I'm grounded I'm gonna run hard and you know

he proved that but let's talk about the cheating okay first of all after this happens okay well for quick question quick answer what percent of the house cheated in this in this thing in your opinion I don't know they didn't tell us they didn't fucking show it so maybe I want to say at least 60 at least 50 at least half did I know that for a fact

well Theo I heard put the pepper in his pocket he did he cheated I know for sure he kept like oh this is all blast me I didn't She's like, yeah, you did fucking, you know. You cheated. So back in the day, cheating actually got you in trouble. I got sent home, literally sent home for cheating. See, that's what I was thinking.

I'm like, now we're all punished. Like, what the fuck, man? Are you kidding me? And then everybody wants to rag on me about it. Like, oh, calm down. It's like, oh, you're trying to gaslight me right now thinking I'm the issue. Well, nah, you guys fucked me over kind of thing. The way turbo acted is what was the most infuriating because he's Mr. Honor.

Oh, at the table. way he acted at the table made me feel like maybe he did cheat himself well i mean i don't know the things he was like because obviously i was you know stood up and said my piece and then him and c t are talking and c t's like oh well you know he's acting like he would have got in second place but i gave him the word and i'm like well c t me and you've been working together so it's like that concludes the free preview of the zack nichols podcast so go to patreon and subscribe to see the rest of the shit that we talk go do it now