The Zach Nichols Podcast - Vets and New Threats + Traitors Season 4 Cast Review! | ZNP EP. 116

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

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All right, make sure you get your tickets to the live show. It's going to be September 20th, 2025 in San Diego, featuring Carl, Pauly, Horacio, and Naurice, and possibly some more guests. So get on that now. You're not going to want to miss this one. All right, welcome back. We are back. Our fancy golf shirts on. I am not golfing today, unfortunately.

I'm going to be irresponsible and play some golf. I have to take Anthony to sports. My boy's a hooper. Today, he was at soccer and they were doing races. and none of the kids could tag him or whatever. He's got wheels? For like his, I don't know yet. I mean, he's just bigger than all the kids.

And I think it's girls too. Not that girls aren't, you know, but he's fashioning the girls in his class. Yeah. I mean, technically they go through puberty faster, so it's pretty even right now. And so essentially he was beating him in all these races and playing tag. And he was like, you guys, you buttholes can't catch me.

That's the phrase? You butt holes. Yeah. I'm sure the coach was very. Thuse to hear that. I just hope no one understood him. Oh, the kids. Oh, no.

The kids don't know. Bro, I took him for an hour and a half bike ride the other day. Not tired? Not only did he, like, he talked the entire bike ride. And he doesn't let just talk. He, like, checks in with you. Like, right, dad? Right, right, dad.

You good? So you got to kind of got to pay attention. But I'm like, he has been talking the entire bike ride. And I was walking and pushing a stroller. And then, and then, like, he, wanted to control the speed so he kept like going real fast and then stopping so like it was just it was great for him but it was like you had multi okay so it wasn't just you and him it was you had the girls I had a double stroke oh man you were balling yeah he was riding the bike and then he had the

two girls daddy of the year yeah and you know it's funny because sometimes like he can't like if we're going like from the road to sidewalk back you know there's like inclines or like a you know space and so his training wheel will get stuck on there so I'll like give the stroller a push push him and like grab it. So at one point the girls are just rolling down the hill to just ghost riding down the hill and I'm helping Anthony and then I caught up to it. Oh man. Someone probably called Child Protective Services, but I don't care. Listen, when you're when you got the three on one going on,

you're going to make it happen. I only have two hands. Yeah, exactly. Three kids, two hands. Yeah, bro. It's crazy. Sometimes you got a ghost ride the whip. I go scler at my hope no one's watching this. No, they're talking. Strollers literally rolling freestyle down a hill. Girls are just like, and I'm pushing Anthony in between, dude, it is, you know, listen, crazy. That's the beautiful, best time of the best time of your life right now. You got the kids going.

They're growing up right before your eyes. Are you like, you're savoring it, aren't you? Because Anthony's about before. Yeah, no, it's great. And I'm like, people are always like, oh, like the amount of time that you're their hero is such a fraction. And then obviously that comes back around. But like, there's still part of me that's like, kind of wish you guys can entertain yourself a little bit better. Like this is getting a little ridiculous.

Andy's getting there though, right? He's got friends. He's hooping. He's playing sports, soccer. No, I'm just looking like more so like, toddlers just need a lot of one on one time and attention. But like I'll, they think like I'm a jungle gym.

So like I'll be like working and I got one with their hands around my neck hanging from me. Like if I'm walking from room to room, someone's holding on to my legs. It's like Anthony will literally like, where are you going? I'm like just to go to the kitchen real quick. He'll be like, can I ride your back? And I'm like, no. No, you can't.

Like I'll be right. He's like, I want to sit on your shoulders. I'm like, no. We're not a pool, Anthony. Dude. You got to get, you know, there's still kids and they're having a great time. But we got one more to add to the mix. It's not going to get easier, but.

It's like, I've been in shock for like three years straight. Like, I don't even know what's really even going on anymore. I made mac and cheese and pizza at the same time today. And I was like, that hell is this a cruise ship? You know? Yeah, 100%. I mean, when you go from playing 2V2 to now you have a starting five and a bench. player it's a big squad right now yeah it's a big squad right that's a blessing though so anyways we just

wrapped up rivals one um one thing i will say is west west has some loyal fans in our patron they don't like my criticism of him i know i know for you you don't really believe it either but they really don't like it well because of the if you take out like the longevity of it yeah you know and everything that he has done yeah like this is such a it's not really like you're judged like people also in the patreon need to remember is you're judging it based on this season. And the only seasons I've seen in his social media activity.

You don't have, and a little bit of, you know, one-on-one. There's some personal. Yeah, some personal kind of communications. If I'm honest with myself, there are some personal things where, you know,

I heard him talking a way that I didn't think was accurate, but that's true. So here's one of your flaws. Tell me. Here's one of your flaws as a person. Please. Is you're vindictive

and you try to do it like in a respectful, nice way, and then play off like that you don't have a bias towards the person that you're actually being vindictive towards. There are sometimes where I don't, sometimes where I do. Right, but for the most part, you're, like, if Wes and you didn't have beef in multiple

avenues of life and you were just watching the season, you'd be like, yeah, he's super cocky, but you'd take people's words for it. And you'd be like, okay with it. But instead, you have to go and push and do your thing and then pretend like you're like, oh, I'm just, this is just my unbiased opinion as a fan of just this season. I don't know anything else, but you do. Okay. That's a flaw.

So, if you were just like, I'm, I'm being a vindictive bitch right now, I'd be like, get it out. But, like, I got to sit here and have this argument with you knowing that you're not going to agree with me because you have a personal bias. Just like, and a lot of people do that, but just own it. Just be like, yeah, can't fucking stand the guy. And this is. For him, for him, there's 50-50. But other people times, like, there's people that I actually think that are really cool in real life that I'm not crazy about on the show. Like, like, I don't have anything for Rachel.

I actually love Rachel. I think she's really nice. She was really nice to me when I saw her in Florida. Like, I got nothing to love for her. There's a little bit of that with Wes. And I think a lot of it is, and from some of our mutual friends, a lot of them said, like,

you just haven't talked to him. And then when you do, things will change. And here's why you're a hypocrite. Because you're very loyal to a certain basketball player that I can't stand, LeBron James. I mean, I think he's a good basketball player. You're very loyal to him, and you'll even make, like,

like, even those clips I sent him golfing, you're like, well, you can relate to being an athlete in switching sport, blah, blah, blah. fuck that. Here's a thing. What you're getting is like, so for me, let's just say I just became a fan of the NBA and I'm like, yeah, like LeBron's like a top 30 guy in the league, but he's not making it far in the playoffs, this and that.

But what you know is 10 years, 10 trips to the finals, you know, two or how many wins do you have four? Four wins. So you remember all that and you give him a lot of grace and you give him a lot of like, it's LeBron. That's what the challenge fans are doing. someone like Rachel who they watched when she was 18 years old and was like a gnarly ass athlete and they're seeing her now maybe compete in the top echelon but she's not up there with

a tory right now obviously because tory's in her prime all these fans are giving her that same energy that you will give a lebron james but you just can't seem to wrap your mind around that and see both sides that's my opinion i think that is so so the same grace you'll give to a lebron james you're not giving to like a Rachel or a Wes or someone who's a legend in this sport you're not giving them that same grace because you're not you don't know the history so sometimes you gotta take a step back

and be like people love this person because they dominated like I've seen what West did on his win dual Freshmeet won was very impressive then he had some rough seasons everyone has rough seasons but now he's coming back and then he ran what I would consider almost flawless final

in All-Stars. Oh, in All-Stars, yes. That was a flawless final where he beat Brad, he beat Mark. Like, granted, those guys, West is kind of more fresh into the flagship than they are. He's also like one tiny age group younger,

but same thing. For sure. But I think in that final, I truly think West would have beaten almost everyone. Because there was never an individual running or endurance portion. You were always teamed. with a female and it was done in stages.

Not saying that that slows them down, but like, for example, if it was like straight, who can run the fastest, like Kayla might beat John A in that final, but because she had to run with Mark and she had to run with Brad, and it depended on what you did.

And then there was puzzles and equalizers. West dominated every puzzle. So in a final like that, the checkpoints are what really make the difference. And West down, like flawlessly puzzles, eating every aspect of that final, the checkpoints, he dominated. So I have the utmost respect for him as a competitor.

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