THEMOVE - Back-to-Back Sprint Victories for Lorena Wiebes | Tour de France 2025 Stage 4 | THEMOVE Femmes

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

Lance Armstrong, Mari Holden, and Alison Tetrick discuss Lorena Wiebes’ second sprint victory of the 2025 Tour de France Femmes Avec Zwift on Stage 4 to Poitiers. They also break down the statement from Demi Vollering’s DS regarding a lack of respect in the peloton, Kristen Faulkner’s continued struggles, and the ongoing GC battle - which sees Marianne Vos back in the yellow jersey - before previewing tomorrow’s hilly stage from Chasseneuil-du-Poitou Futuroscope to Guéret. Zwift: Zwift just made it easier than ever to get on the virtual roads. All Zwift-ready trainers come with the new Zwift Cog and Click installed, making them ready to ride from the box - no extras needed. Zwift-ready trainers start at just $299, meaning anyone can jump into world-class indoor training without breaking the bank. No excuses. Just ride! https://zwift.com Honey Stinger: Head on over to https://honeystinger.com/themove to check out all of their products, including my favorite, the waffle. Our listeners can get 25% off your first order at https://honeystinger.com/themove. That’s THEMOVE for 25% off your first order.

The Pauline, she looks good. And let's not forget, right? I mean, we talked a lot of the men's race. Gosh, when is the last time a Frenchman won the Tour de France? When's the next time a Frenchman could win the Tour de France? Well, it's been a long time and it's going to be a long time. This would be a hell of a story. French woman winning the Tour de France. Let's go.

Welcome back to the Move podcast. I know I'm talking, now I can hear myself. It helps to plug it in. I thought I was last. Gosh, I am so sorry. Welcome back to the Move. We are talking about stage four of the Tour de France Fam of X-Swift. Of course, I'm joined by Mari Holden.

Good morning. Alison Tetrick down there. Hi. You've been behaving this year. I know. This is, I'm joined by Mari Holden. Good morning. Alison Tetrick down there. Hi. You've been behaving this year. This is, I tell ya. You know, I don't say a lot of prayers, but. I'm just hoping you let me bring my cat. Anyhow, if you've been watching,

this has been a kind of a running theme for about a week now. Ali's cat that was trying to make an appearance on the move. Not happening. Instead we got beavers. Scottie the squirrel. Mal, what did we do here today on stage four? Talk to us.

Stage four. Sommure to Poitiers. I mean that's so good. And I can't help myself. I've been jumping ahead, looking at the start and finish towns and just waiting for these pronunciations. It's just, I don't know, it's so groovy. Lorena Wiebes, I loved, I mean, clearly the fastest rider in the race.

And she was in this position where, I mean, she just kind of goes where she wants to go. Right, you had Chloe Dygert there, you had Voss there, and she's like, yeah, I'm gonna slide on over here and then just step on the gas. What a, I mean, they called her the Hulk on TV. Every woman's dream is to be called the green Hulk. She's in the green jersey.

But. It was a Hulk move at the end. It was a Hulk move. It was a Hulk move and it was incredible. She dominated, made that spot and won, but that was an incredible stage. We did call the winner, but I don't think most people did not call that winner. Her team did do a great job in the lead out. We got a little nervous there for them towards the end though. We said it the other day, this was first

stage you know these lead outs are many times it's just about timing. Now obviously it worked out for her she had Lotta Capecchi there but Lotta Capecchi found herself essentially stuck on the front two point it was over 2k to go so then you're thinking hmm you got it but when you're Lorraine and Weebus and you get kind of boxed in a little bit you just you just and if you watch that overhead shot she'd own it and send it but we'll talk of boxed in a little bit. You just move people out of your way. You just move, and if you watch that overhead shot, she'd. Own it and send it. But we'll talk about that finish in a little bit here, but I mean, come on,

we're watching the Tour de France-Falmavec Zwift. That's right. Title sponsor of the race and our show. And actually yesterday, I've been talking about their new rollout of the cog and click setup. And so I was telling you guys yesterday that Colt and I were gonna go up in the gym

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I did the Champs-Elysees course. Liz was up there, she can definitely witness but I finished getting the leaders jersey and the sprinter's jersey. Moving up the leaderboard. So I basically raced the Tour de France-Faume of ex-Swift with the Coggenclink. It's awesome how Zwift is...

I'm sure Demi's scared. Oh, and that's really cool, because in the app they have all the women's names painted on the road, so it's like, Demi, Cassia, so you're riding in the app, I've got my watch the femme cap on, and I'm in the women's race. Cap's been a hit, cap's been a hit. That cap's been a hit.

Are you going to wear it another day? I will. I will. I was thinking about rocking it today, but I was going all black and I didn't wear a hoodie. But it's cool how Zwift has really leaned into women cycling. And I think it's just so strong.

So strong. Speaking of strong, Marion Vososs just not a true sprinter. I don't think anybody in this race is gonna beat Lorraine Iwebus in a straight up field sprint, but getting second, getting the time bonuses, like she's just, she's one of those, we see it in all disciplines in cycling. You put the numbers on people's back

and they just turn into a different person. It's like, oh, I felt that number go on. I think we're racing like I'm racing today. She's just always there. It's really eight years old. Yeah, it's really impressive, especially when you look at the other sprinters who were expecting to be up there like Balsamo. She was farther down, I think maybe around 15th or something like that.

So, you know, she's spinning and the sprinters aren't spinning. And we miss is ahead of everyone. Yeah. Weebus is obviously the quickest, like we're looking at her power and how fast she can sprint. I did want to dive into the lead out situation around 3K to go. So she was second wheel. Right.

I mean, almost 5K to go. Am I right? Yeah, behind Capecchi. Yeah. She's behind Capecchi. And Winnibregan. And I was going, whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean almost 5k to go am I right? Kopecki yeah, she's behind Kopecki. Mm-hmm and I was going whoa whoa whoa and Lance you were worried about her getting stuck there Mm-hmm and then Vanda Brigham just comes back in like the Energizer bunny Kopecki fades Anna comes in and she pulls that lead out for

three kilometers Yeah, that was really impressive especially for her to be pulling that way and then, you know, come off and then come back again and come to the front again. It was, that was really impressive. And she looked good. Yeah. And selection behind. I mean, if you watched the finish line, there were bodies everywhere. It was really spread out. And we know Anna's coming back from 2021, but this is a gold medalist, world champion in not only the road race, but also the time trial. So she's just up there and she's been quiet this year, but I'm thinking, I'm thinking she's waking up.

The other quiet one is Pauline. I mean, we haven't really, she was there on the first day, did that incredible finish, but she's been really quiet and hidden and saving energy, which is something we were talking about yesterday with, you know, who's saving energy, who isn't. Pauline's riding a really smart race right now. Yep. And Lance, for you to give her the A plus plus on her lead out on day one, we did get some hard emojis.

I was nerding out on that, that she listens and liked that. Look, if I was a betting person, which I guess I am, sometimes, she's my favorite. I mean, I think it's her and Demi and Cassia, right? And so, the Pauline, oh, she looks good. And let's not forget, right? I mean, we talked a lot in the men's race, gosh, when is the last time a Frenchman won

the Tour de France? When's the next time a Frenchman could win the Tour de France? Well, it's been a long time, and it's gonna be a long time. When is the last time a Frenchman won the Tour de France? When's the next time a Frenchman could win the Tour de France? Well, it's been a long time, and it's gonna be a long time. This would be a hell of a story. French woman winning the Tour de France, let's go. Oh, and by the way, yesterday was a year to the day

that she won gold in the Olympics in the mountain bike race. Yep, yep. I was like, whoa, come on. Which was incredible. And I do have to do a little shout out to our friend Will, I think that's his first name. He did a nice comment on YouTube correcting me on my geography. I said we were going into the Macy's central

We were not he wrote a very long explanation Which I can't we need Mel to pronounce what regions we were going through and then he did give me a nice thing He said or you could just go with the tour de France Fama Bexwift is still in the relatively flat west of France heading south towards the Mif Central. So there we go. Yeah, I've always wanted on all these shows, I've always thought it'd be cool to have a weather person, right? Come in every day and just give a forecast. I didn't know we'd ever need a geography person just to explain to us, no, you're right. But you're right.

I mean, it is different. And of course, I think we're correct in saying that tomorrow and the day after, we do head into the Massive Central. We got some questions about what that means and what we sort of reference the pavement type and the chip seal. Maybe we'll get to that question at the end.

But thank you, Will. Yeah. I do think it's interesting, though, what you were saying about the podium, your picks here. And I mean, I'm in agreement about the first two, I think, are fighting it out, if Demi is well from her crash. But I do think that a possible person to be there for the podium, too, is Sarah Gigante.

And I know that we've been going back and forth about that, but it's something I've been watching every day and she's just sliding in there, not losing time. And I think on something where you don't have a time trial, if you're conserving energy, which is questionable if you're in the back all the time, but she's making the time cuts and she's a pure climber and we're gonna be ending on two climbing stages.

So, I mean, it's very different than like a pure climber and we're gonna be ending on two climbing stages. So, you know, I mean, it's very different than like a pure climber being able to go up those climbs. She may be able to be not losing time or gaining time on some of those. So, depends on who's having a good day, but she's one to watch, I think, after seeing what she did at the Giro. Well, in talking about those days

and we got some questions and we got even more questions overnight about the difference between the men's Peloton and the women's Peloton in terms of watts per kilo. We've got answers on that so that we'll get to those questions and answers. In the second half of the show, it was pretty, I was kind of blown away. These watts per kilo, I was like, damn. I think the other thing though, getting- I always told the boys, I was like, damn. Yeah. I think the other thing, though, getting- I always told the boys, I was like,

I think I could finish the Tour de France. If you gave me six months, I could finish the Tour de France. Now, I now- The men, or the men? Well, I'm going to get to that. But the original sort of idea, or challenge, or thought was the men's. But after hearing those watts per kilo numbers,

I heard for the women's peloton I'm now not sure I could finish the Tour de France Famavix. I'm not kidding these are real numbers. They're real numbers. Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude But before we get away from the time gap thing, we were talking about the 5K rule the other day, and I do think that it's really helping out in a race like this where you don't have a time trial, the finishes become less important on losing distance in the finishes, because yesterday, if that crash had happened in years before the 5K rule, we would have had huge time gaps after that. But because of the rule, someone like Sarah, as I've been saying, is managing to keep her

time the same as everyone else in these finishes, not losing 10 seconds here, 20 seconds there. It changes kind of the outcome of a race, which is really interesting, I think. But today, I mean, there was, whoever lost time today lost time. Yeah. There was no crash with them. There was no crash, yep. Right, yesterday. And you know, it's funny,

even back in our day when it was 1K, guys would, they weren't necessarily in the crash, but they got stuck in or near or behind the crash. There were all kinds of hacks. Yeah, put your foot down. Like, put your foot, or you just pull your shorts up. Like, just, you make it appear as if you were in the crash. Yeah, put your foot down. Put your foot down, or you just pull your shorts up. You make it appear as if you were in the crash.

It's like a free lap in a crit. I heard Spencer on the show a lot about the crits, and I have some opinions. But we were waiting on our group text with Lance and Mari. And we were just checking in on how Damia was doing. What does this look like? Did she go to the hospital? What are the injuries? Chloe looked like she bounced up fine. I saw her shaking hands and hugging fans at the end, so we felt good about that. And I was talking to my husband, Blaze, and he was just, you know, worried about Damie. And we're friends

and then he's like, man, Damie doesn't win, I'm gonna go for a puck. That is the name of our cat by the way. But we do need to keep talking. I mean, she was the best young rider last year, Olympic, I mean, world champion in the mountain bike. But I mean, she's another rider to watch. She's sitting up there in sixth GC. The long mountains might not be good,

but the next two days, thinking how she won flesh, she's podiuming all these classics, I think we can look for on a podium the next couple days, and she's not gonna lose time in crosswinds. I mean, this is a She's an exciting rider. She's so fun to watch. And we have some, a little bit, it feels like a little bit of tea. Yeah. When it comes to Demi Vuller, she was in the crash yesterday. She did get up and get moving again, didn't, moving again, was given same time because of this rule. The director, her director, Sportive, came out, issued a statement about the crash. Yeah.

It's got a little juice to it, I think. So I was constantly hitting refresh. I'm trying not to WhatsApp her too much or anything. The rider needs to recover and I can see that she's got contusion is going through concussion protocols. And then I keep updating and her director, Stefan Delcor, has a he comes out with a statement and it says the mentality of some teams is unbelievable, truly disrespectful. They're playing with people's lives like this.

Damie wants to ride at the front, but they keep cutting her off. That crash wasn't ASO's fault. It was the riders. It all comes down to respect." I mean, that is like, I don't know. I don't think that's making any friends out there. That's got some heat on it. That's got some heat. I don't know. I wouldn't think that you'd be wanting to have, you know, get the Peloton against you essentially, but that kind of talk is. But Lance, I've heard this as a theme in the men's tour. That's right.

It's like these young guns don't like, we don't have the patron of the Peloton where there's respect and like, what do you guys think about that? Yep, yep, yep. Well, I would think it's the same. Yeah, I think it's kind of everybody for themselves and everybody breaks late and has their elbows out and but that in that statement speaks to that. Well, and Marianne Voss

came out after seeing that or I don't know if she saw his statement but it was a question about respect and Voss said that she didn't think it was that the athletes were being disrespectful it's just that everyone's trying to get into that corner at the same time so you know it's just people racing because they're trying to get their team and get their person up there who's supposed to so it's supposed to be it had nothing to do with respect but this is Voss who is going to disrespect Voss? She might feel a lot more respect than most, but I don't know.

Well, it doesn't help that her director is saying that kind of stuff or her manager. So I mean. I want to just keep that in and say, see you on the Matalan. And actually even tomorrow. I mean, tomorrow is a day where we'll show, we'll get into that in a little bit. But tomorrow is a day where you can assert yourself. I would just wait. Yeah.

Well, but you know what? For us, a little bit of tea is good. Spill the tea. I never knew, by the way, I have these young kids, and I was like, ooh, you want me to spill the tea? I was like, what are you talking about? I never knew what it meant for years. And then I'm like, ah, still makes no sense.

I learned it here last year, you told me. Yeah, it was, and kids are probably off that now, talking about other things, using other expressions. We hadn't actually looked at one rider. I mean, just we haven't talked about the Young Riders jersey. I know we're only on stage four, but I poked around. It's Julie Bagot. She's on KofiDiss, so a French rider.

And she's been in the best young rider jersey since stage one. And I just, she's the 2023 U2 3 World Race champion. Okay. That's a French rider in the best young rider jersey. It's kind of cool. 22 second lead. And then after that, it's a big jump, right? Third place, 449.

That's cool. French. That's good. It is cool. And on Kofi, this. On a French team. Yeah, she needs that. Also today brought to you by Honey Stinger. Many of you guys and gals know I've been a fan of

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Some kids have a nut allergy. We love it. I got to be really sensitive about this one because I was watching most of the race. And I'm friends with a lot of folks here in the US from the Koch family, K-O-C-H, Koch. And again, I've got to be real sensitive here, but there was Franzi Koch was in the breakaway most of the day. As she has been most days. And I'm not so sure. We need to request-

German national champion. Great. We need to request a pronunciation from her because the pronunciation on TV, and if you watch the race, if you didn't watch, I know you're making fun of me right now, but if you watch the race, you're with, don't, don't, if you didn't watch, I know you're making fun of me right now, but if you watch the race, you are crying with me.

I'm not even gonna say it, all right? But I need help here, so. No, it was, it was troubling. Wonderful writer, she's been very aggressive. But clearly, I mean, I guess maybe in Germany, they pronounce, and y'all know where I'm going with this, they pronounce it a different way. And watching the Tour de France fam of ex-Swift, that's just, something wasn't vibing with me.

Oh gosh. Let's talk about tomorrow. Let's look at tomorrow, because I do want to give these questions, they're so good. And we have another fun story that aligns with two of these questions, players. Tomorrow, longer, 165 kilometers, basically uneventful. But look at the end. The end really spices up.

Three categorized climbs. I love, in the women's race, these intermediate time bonuses. Do we know, remind me, are those 20 or those 1064? 1064. 1064. Okay. But on a climb. On a climb before the top. In the middle of the final. In the middle of a climb, yeah. So you're...

I mean, that's going to make that climb crazy. So you wonder what like a Pauline does there, right? Or any of them for that matter. I mean, that definitely spices things up. This is a... I think Pauline goes for it. I think she does. Kasia obviously will. And Katia. Well then that's amazing. That's really spicy, but all those three categories climbs all come within the last 30-40 kilometers. The finish is not, the actual sprint is not uphill, but this is where this Tour de France Vama Vex with starts to these girls will start to reveal themselves tomorrow. It's gonna be an exciting race I think. Yeah. Yeah so the last climb of the day is 7k and average is 5.4% so but it's 7 the top is 7k from the finish and I have

not had a chance to look at the descent, but you're going to crest that climb with seven K to go and it's all downhill to the finish. So, um, pretty interesting. Marianne Voss. I was going to say, yeah, I think this one has Voss written all over it. I think Chloe could be another one that's like a good finish for her. She looked good today. Yeah. And this will be the only second time this town has been on the tour. The first time Robbie McEwen won

There you go. Where do you get this stuff? Liz and I we do our research Also we won time it was caddyshack at the bunkhouse last night, so you know movie night so We have some good questions and I was in the gym this morning and Mari got here early the studio wasn't over to you in there and and I said as I was and I was in the gym this morning and Mari got here early, the studio wasn't open, but you were in there. And I said, as I was, and I don't even know, Chloe was on TV and I thought, boy, she always rocks the short shorts. I just said it was an observation. And then I kind of went down the ramp and I was like, well, maybe that should just be the thing. Maybe everybody should rock. And I'm not being, come on, I'm not being skeezy here.

No, he said it in a way that was just like, oh, that looks good. You know, it stands out. It's the way that the women's Peloton looks. But anyway, that was just an idea. Nonetheless, we get actually two questions today overnight regarding Chloe's short shorts, which was just so wild when I finally got the print out here.

The question was, why does Chloe Dygert wear shorter shorts than everyone else? I mean, I guess it's because she wants to, but Chris says it just seems different to me. And then we had another question about ever since her leg injury at the World Time Droll Championships, Chloe Dygert has been wearing those short, those Eddie Merckx type throwback shorter shorts. Do you think it's for comfort or do you think it's due to the scar, et cetera, et cetera? That seems a little farfetched.

That one's from Louis. First one's from Chris. But I think it's a fashion statement, you know, trying to be feminine on the bike. Yeah. And I mean, I think it stands out more because her legs are so long. But I think she's just trying to do it because she likes it and wants to look like a girl on her bike. I think it looks good, too, actually.

And everybody always comments on it. So whatever she's doing, she's getting a lot of attention for it, which is which is a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of Americans, did we talk about Faulkner already? We didn't touch on it. Kristen Faulkner, our Olympic champion, and this happens in cycling. When you start to have one bad day bleeds into another bad day,

and then your head gets involved, and you're like, I don't know, we don't know what she's thinking. We've all been there. It's like, there is that moment. You're like, now what am I doing here again? Another bad, just suffered in some of those early crosswinds, small crash at the end. Your heart goes out to her. I mean especially when you're just you know you expect something so different of yourself and then you go out there and it's just like every day is worse. No totally. Yeah I mean she's so. So I almost win the stage of this Tour Britain once

and then I crash and like break something. And so I'm just gonna keep doing worse and worse. And my team director says that he can see me by the vultures over me, sharpening their claws waiting because I just kept getting worse as the stage race goes on. When you saw her getting up from that crash

or it's just shaking, they're like, wow, you just despondent. I mean, again, we've all been there. Definitely have been there. I mean, probably more than, hundred times more than you guys. I don't know about that. I think that anyone who's been in this sport

and survives, you're in those situations where you just know you have to get through it. And you have to just deal with it, especially because maybe tomorrow, maybe tomorrow she starts feeling a little better. And it's a good stage four. That's right. On this watts per kilo issue, men versus women,

the best of the best, the question from yesterday, everyone, it seems, pushes power to weight above all else in the men's and women's races. But my question is, since we look at the climbers, sprinters, classic specialists, all-rounders, and others, which type of riders most concerned about that power to weight? What other metrics are important? Climbers and classic specialists seem like endurance

would mean as much, et cetera, et cetera. It's more than just a high watts per kilo number. And how do the trainers, coaches, and sport directors hit the balance in that athlete? That's a more that's that's a in-depth question. But was was Mara you got the intel from some folks on just the the actual power numbers these climbers are putting out watts per kilo. That's that's kind of the magic ratio when it comes to climbing. I reached out to Dean Gawlich, who coached Mara Abbott, who won the Giro, who was a pure

climber, and also in the Tokyo Olympics, almost got away on that climb. She was with Iain Amique. They figured, or she can do 6.1 for 40 minutes, which is unbelievable. And in the Olympics and the Tokyo climb she did, I think they modeled it at 5.8 considering, you know, all the factors leading into it and stuff. And they were only three seconds off in their estimation. So I mean, Demi, Pauline, probably up there around six watts per kilo, yeah.

You know, the men's winner, I mean, Tadej Pogacar, he's riding seven, now I think he's doing a little more, 7.2 watts per kilo, he knows he can win the Tour de France. That's not that far off. No. I mean, I would start the season, I know this, because we would test this very early on, and you'd have to look at the results and be like,

oh, I shouldn't even go to a bike race. I mean, I was like 5.5. I was like, all right, better stay home. And it wasn't until you got into the sixes that you knew you could go to a race and not just get spit out the back. That's incredible. Earlier this year, Demi did a Spanish race.

So she did eight minutes, almost nine minutes at 6.1 watts per kilo. So I mean, and consider now she's even in better form than she was in theory. So probably around six. But it is different. Like that question did allude to as well for like a classic style rider.

So if you look like a Capecki, I'd be more of a classic style rider. And then that's where actually absolute power comes. Like we would do testings when I go to the USOPC to test just like absolute power. Like take your weight outside of like how much power can you hold for an hour? And I mean, remember protecting GC Rider

and she's telling me what watch she did at the climb. I'm like, I literally did that for four hours at this race, right? So absolute power for classics rider where the weight doesn't matter as much or you're looking at Flanders and it's higher rolling resistance. So there's a lot of things.

It's not all watts per kilo pending on the course. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's impressive. Thank you. I agree. And I think Pauline is going to be hitting that 6.1 to you also. We're about to find out. Last question of the day here from Ashley. This is, I'm curious to y'all's answer on this. That's why I didn't want to read it to you as we were watching.

Ashley says, I'm a 27 year old woman who's been cycling for the last four years. I love watching the femme every year and always get inspired by them, especially when I see people like Marianne Voss and Mabie Garcia win stages. Do you think if I started today, I could go pro and be in the Tour de France femme of ex-wifte one day? I would say give it a shot. I mean, it happens. It happens in the Tour de France-FamaVegas Zwift one day? I would say give it a shot. I mean, it happens. It happens in the mid-side.

Kim LaCorte was in the yellow jersey, her first world tour team, she was 29 years old. I mean, Prima Zorogla started late. He came from another sport. Mavi Garcia was a runner and a new athlete. I played tennis in college. Yeah. I think you'd have to probably be coming from an elite level

on another sport. You would have to. I mean, you can't just make the change and all of a sudden develop an engine that's going to be doing something like that. That's right. But it could be possible. But I guess if the question was, is the age alone a factor,

the answer is no. If you've been sitting on the couch eating bonbons for 27 years, that might be a bigger factor. By the way, nothing wrong with sitting on the couch eating bonbons. I do that a lot. Doubt it. No, I do. I train a lot, but I also sit around and I'm going to get off set here and have a cinnamon roll. But I just wanted to like, say that this is doing great things for the young women. That's right. And I want to like touch on that real quick. This is a super cute clip. So yeah, we got a clip.

I had a text conversation with my friend Jordan about his daughter, Shy. And just how, let me read you. Look at this. I know. He basically said that this is the future. And if you see it, you can believe it. So she's been watching the race every day,

is super excited to see women out there succeeding the way they are. And this is her version of the Marianne Voss salute in Truckee. So Chey and Truckee, we're watching. And I love that tagline there. If you see it, you can believe it. That says it all.

By the way, too, we sort of everyday remark like the crowds. Yeah I mean kids. I mean, there's some crowds at the Tour de France femme Yeah, what swift has done for for women cycling and women's sport in general Like if you see it, you can believe it in any sport. So, you know, we're watching it in cycling, but it's it's happening Yeah, all right. Well, we'll be back tomorrow when we finally will be in the Massive Central. Sorry about geography, people. I try. Sorry, Will.

It'll be an exciting day. So make sure you tune in. And we'll see you tomorrow. Ask more questions, and we'll see you tomorrow. Send your questions, info at wedo.team. And I almost left before you guys would kill me. All right, three, two, one. Bye.

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