THEMOVE - Cavendish’s Tour stage‑win record already being threatened?| Tour de France 2025 Stage 7 | THEMOVE

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

Lance, George, and Sir Bradley Wiggins discuss Tadej Pogačar's stage win atop the Mûr-de-Bretagne that netted him his 19th career Tour de France stage win and saw him further extend his GC lead over his key competition. They also discuss Jonas Vingegaard bouncing back after his disappointing time trial performance to be the only GC contender capable of matching Pogačar's acceleration to the line, Visma continuing to deploy aggressive tactics early in the stage, and how the late crash, which took down UAE's João Almeida, could complicate Pogačar's title defense when the race hits the mountains.    LMNT: Get your free 8-count Sample Pack with any LMNT purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/themove Be sure to try the new LMNT Sparkling — a bold, 16-ounce can of sparkling electrolyte water.   Join: No race? No problem. JOIN keeps you riding stronger, just for the love of it. Discover your path at https://join.cc/themove Download JOIN today and transform the way you train.   Huckberry: Some of our favorite products found at: https://huckberry.com/themove   Ketone-IQ: Take your shot: Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at https://Ketone.com/themove   Roka: THEMOVE listeners get 20% off. Just go to https://ROKA.com and enter code THEMOVE at checkout.   Ventum: Enter Ventum Trivia of the Day for a chance to win the Grand Prize: $5,000 of store credit towards any Ventum bike. Don’t want to leave it to chance, 10% off sitewide using the code THEMOVE10 or 20% off any NS1 road bike build with code NS120  https://ventumracing.com/themove/

Great to have you on the set. Great to be here. Excited. I mean, you have the crystal ball this year. Well, it helps when Ted had begotcha. Bradley and I were talking before the show. He's finished first or second on four of the seven stages so far. So that helps a little bit. All right. Welcome back to the MOVE Podcast.

I'm Lance Armstrong, joined by to the MOVE Podcast. I'm Lance Armstrong, joined by Sir Bradley Wiggins, Mr. George Hincapie. Still no hat. I know, I keep forgetting. We'll get it going one of these days. Tomorrow. The people want the hat. All right.

And ladies and gentlemen, out from behind the curtain, Mr. Spencer Martin, the professor. Thanks for letting me out. Well, you know, I don't know if it was largely due to your wild success and outcomes, yet another stage prediction today. We thought, you know, the guy's just crushing. We'll let you out from behind the curtain. As is the case each and every day. Today's show brought to you by and presented by Keto and IQ. I'm talking about stage seven. Alain, what we do? Stage seven from Saint-Malo to Mur-de-Bretagne, Guerlain-Den. From Saint-Malo to Mur-de-Bretagne, Guerre les Dents from Saint-Malo to Mure de Bretagne, Guerre les Dents.

Wow. We do have, later in the show, I've been a, you kind of, if you watch the race year after year, the helicopter shot does highlight a lot of yard art. You know what I mean? Like our field art, people out there, hay bales. I saw, and I'm not a big fan of these, but I saw, they showed one today that is the greatest I've ever seen. And we have a photo of it. We're doing it now? No, we're not going to, we're going to, I want to save it. I want to tease it out and I want to save it. It was exceptional.

I don't know how they did it. If it's the one I'm thinking, I saw as well. Yeah. Yeah Amazing. Yeah If we think in the same way, we may not be yeah Well, did you take a picture of the one that you were no, I can tell you it was of a note. Don't say okay Okay, look I can tell you it takes a lot to get this man's attention in the early parts of the stage I know in fact we were watching I was just kind of coming to and I said whoa. I know. In fact, we were watching. I was just kind of coming to and I said, Whoa,

I said, rewind that. It was like Dave Chappelle was on one of the night one of the nighttime shows and he was giving this. He was he was telling about the first time he met Kanye West. And Kanye was, you know, was nobody. And Chappelle was already somebody. And Kanye just sinks in. Anyways, you got to look this up on YouTube. But Chappelle's telling the story of Kanye. And Kanye said, rewind that. Anyways, so I had to rewind it and I took a photo of it. You get to see it later. This is gonna sound like a broken record. Tadej Pogacar, ladies and gentlemen,

won another stage of the Tour de France, his 101st professional victory, his 19th Tour de France stage win. Yeah, we keep saying it over and over. We do have some observations which could indicate you know maybe another dominance we've seen. Yeah, there's little yeah right and sir Bradley will as we were watching had some amazing insight and I think you're right on this. In just having done the sport for so long and followed these guys for now years, you start to pick up on little things and we'll get into all that.

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Huckberry down there in Austin as well. Look, Spencer, by the way, great to have you on the set. Great to be here. Excited. I mean, you have the crystal ball this year. Well, it helps when Ted Ipogatso, Bradley and I were talking before the show. He's finished first or second on four of the seven stages so far. So that, that helps a little bit. And today, today he had a phenomenal lead out by Bisma, Lisa bike.

I'm still not on this team. I'm still not understanding this tactic. I mean, if you, you see he's beaten you handedly the last couple of days, let's start attacking, you know, let's start using Matteo Jorgensen. Let's start using Wild Van Aert. I mean, they did so much damage. There was 20 guys left after the first time up, Murdoch-Raton, which means that's a finished pace they set. I don't know. I feel like if they're all in for the mountain stages, why not just let their guys kind of chill or go for stage wins and not do the work for UAE? My opinion. Yeah. I think it just shows, look, we're seven stages in. These tours, we talk a lot about this current world of cycling and how fit everybody is, how fast they go.

Guys are getting tired. I mean, you hit, I mean, let's be honest. I mean, you're to Bretagne's, if we all rode up it, we think it was a decent climb. It is, it is. But would you ride up that thing and think that the Tour de France after one time up is going to have 25 guys? No way. No way. And Bradley, you were asked, you've ridden it. Yeah, I've raced up it. Yeah. I don't think I ever did.

No, the year we did in 2011 when Cadell Evans won, I remember leading him out, but we had some really hard climbs before him, but it was still, it was a full peloton. Still a big full pit. Essentially 80% of the peloton was still there. But it was still it was a full still big full pit. Yeah Essentially 80% of the peloton was still there. Yeah. Well, what's going on? So the levels getting higher the gaps are smaller in the big mountains and seem to be larger in the small climbs Right like why exactly is that happening? Does anyone have a guess? I think because they're racing so hard from kilometer zero and you know, like we saw yesterday after day day after day after day

We saw a van to pull yesterday I mean a guy like that getting dropped near the end and when And you know, like we saw yesterday, day after day, day after day, day after day. Look, we saw a Vanderpool yesterday. I mean, a guy like that getting dropped near the end when it was just clearly because he had been doing a team time trial all day, the stages he won before that he kind of, they saved them to the end. He didn't have to hit the wind once, but then you see what, when you, when he asked to work from kilometer zero, the effect it has on the best riders in the world. So that's what we're seeing. I mean, the 20 guys after the first time up, Mute or Breton, we were all kind of in shock.

Yeah. And another question for you guys. I'm sure you're all up 4.45 in the morning watching the early breakaway. Why is Visma so active in this, or like if, like Lance on postal, would you guys have done that? You're trying to win the Tour de France. Are you saying, hey guys, I want you in the early moves?

Like why is like Victor Campenaert so active? Wow, Vinart, because you said, George, don't they want to save everything for the mountains? You would think, or they're thinking of, you know, kind of what they did in the Giro, get one of their good guys in the front, have Jonas attack, but that's not happening, especially in these stages.

Maybe in the mountain stages, I think it makes a lot of sense, but if they are in fact so confident with Jonas Vindigo, I don't see why they're racing the way they are right now. Unless they're even more confident that they need to tire out the UAE guys before they get to stage 10, where they'll be able to make a difference. We haven't seen Seb Kust at all.

So I'm wondering if they're just saving him, said you just ride the groupetto, get through these first 10 stages and that's when we really need you. So it could shape up to be something really interesting if that's the case. I'm hoping that's the case but we have yet to be to see. Well Sepp Kuss is shaping up to be I think one of the biggest question marks of this tour. Is that in fact the case or is he just not there this year? And I'm going to go back gonna go back to what we said yesterday about it's tough to do three tours. Those, you gotta, those can be career affecting.

Yeah, I agree. Not that I ever did it, but. I'm gonna give him the benefit of that. I agree, I agree. I'd say they're planning for everything after stage 10. I mean, Bradley, let me know what you think, but like we saw him in the Dauphiné, he did some decent stages, not the Sep Kuz that we

know, but if he comes back to be the Sep Kuz that he has been in the last couple of years, he can make a huge difference. Yeah, yeah. Let's not discount him just yet. This tour is long and I also think the way that this first week has been raced, it's everything Sep doesn't want. He's a rider that will come to the fore when we get to the high mountains. And Monday, we were talking about Monday stage, that's where we'll get a true reflection of where Sep Cus is at, I think, in this Tour de France. That's right. That's right. And it's also worth noting, we talked about how this first week has been raced really

every day from kilometer zero. Yet again, another breakaway today with Garen Thomas. We were just remarking, of course, your old teammates of his and old friend of his and think very highly of him. Here's a guy who has won the tour who's approaching 40 years old, was second in the Tour of Italy last year. He finds himself in that break. Love your take on that, but I will say before you do, I've been that guy. 2010, you're there, you're like, what am I doing here? Honestly, I was like, what am I doing here?

And you're looking for these early breaks and I felt for him today. It's just not... brakes. I felt for him today. Mason- You know, G is a classic. To make the break today is some effort as well. Let's not forget. They're just letting these brakes go, as we saw yesterday. There was every chance that when they were making that break this morning, the racing was as hard as it was. There was a thought process that this could go to the finish again, like it did yesterday. So for G to be there. But I mean, I also saw G's interviews early in the week where after the first few stages, he was saying, you know, he was thinking to himself, have I gone a year too long? Why didn't I stop last year, you know, with the crashes? He crashed at the Tour of Swiss before this race. But you know, G is still 39th overall.

I mean, as of this morning, he was 39th overall. So he's been doing the team job for Rodriguez, I think it is. And G's not done in this Tour de France yet. But yeah, there is an element of that where he was in the break this morning and it could have gone to the finish, but it wasn't to be. UAE did not let that go more than a minute and a half. Or Alpecin. I was going to say, I think it was all the fact that Alpecin was willing to do the work as well. That changed the whole dynamic of the breakaway. Well, Johan had a point yesterday that he thought UAE and Alpecin had an agreement yesterday.

And then that could have continued over into today knowing that Vanderpoel wasn't going to take the yellow jersey today or lose it at least. So we did talk about that yesterday. But today was kind of paid back. They had to. or lose it at least. So we did talk about that yesterday, but Johan did think that Tadej and Van der Poel had an agreement yesterday that we'll let you go take the jersey off us and help us. And that was kind of carried over into today. We talked about it. Yeah, right. Collaboration, communication. This is a political race. But what a difference I mean we talked about the last time they finished their Spencer pointed it out Vannepelle attacks the first time up gets not a very significant gap Maybe five ten fifteen seconds holds it the whole final lap by himself and then still wins by eight seconds over for poker

Char so, you know fast forward two years till now. I mean, what a completely different outcome, even though Vannefl is obviously on really good fitness, as probably as good as he's ever been. But not only did he not attack the first time up, he was swinging on the back of the Peloton, almost getting dropped. In fact, he might've gotten a little bit gapped at the top and then got dropped the last time up. Has the level gone up that much higher or has his aggression after yesterday, you know, it's a pain he's

paying for today. I mean, he had an amazing spring. I mean, that takes its toll. You saw him two, three days ago. He was cracked. No, it was yesterday. Yesterday. You don't see Vanderpool like that.

Just laid out on the road, Dallas and himself. He looked tired. Right. And you saw it today. And that would explain or what you said, Bradley would explain putting the team on the front for a large part of the day. For the record, I was not up at 445, but when I did get up, they were on the front. Another a couple of interesting things.

Honorable mention, Oscar Onley, we talked about him. Yes, his young kid Scotland, gets third on the stage. Think about this. All right, Tade and Jonas together. We'll talk about Jonas because I think he, I feel like he looked a lot better today. But shout out to Oscar Onley. This is, this is gonna, this is one of the emerging stories of the 2025 tour. Yeah. I mean, he's starting off with a bang. If you would have asked me two weeks ago, do you know who Oscar Onley is? I would have said, I have no idea who you're talking about. This is impressive.

He's riding a hell of a race. And his team, Picnic Post and L is like facing extinction. If they don't get enough points to either stay in the world tour or get the third start getting the weeds here, the third slot of the second division teams. Like they're not getting any wild card invites. So they need all the points they can get at this price. Well, he's showing some talent. So that might be better for him.

Yeah. To go on a different team? Yeah. Well, yeah, he's probably got some claws in there that if the team doesn't stay at the highest level, he can. Strange to me he's on this team in the first place. Like Bradley. He's been on the team since he was a young kid. Yeah. Yeah. So that's also cool.

Before we go to commercial break for Peacock, another just seemingly out of the nowhere, here you got a group of 20 guys, massive pile up percentage wise. I mean, they look like there were eight guys on the ground. Of course we saw Almeida really banged up. The other one who was really, really banged up was Lenny Martinez. I mean, he looked like, he looked like Mike Tyson hit him a few times. I mean, that was hard to watch as they were trying to pick him up. He didn't know up from down. And there was no real reason for the crash as well. They were trying to go back and show it. You just couldn't see. We couldn't figure it out. But nasty, nasty crash.

Ladies and gentlemen, we will be back in two and thirty two. You love saying that, don't you? All right. And we're back. Welcome back to the move. And just just real quick. And I know you had an observation you want to make sir Bradley But yes, George I do as we go to that break. I do like that I grew up watching all these cheesy games shows love connection being one

hosted by the legendary Just just totally flaked his name Chuck Woolery and and it would always love connection different from Island? Can you point out a couple of those different films? It's very different. Tonight, we'll sit around and watch them on YouTube. Anyways, Chuck was this cool, Devin Arrigan. He wore this huge Rolex. Every time they went to break, he'd say, back in two and two.

But he made sure to show the Roley two and two. And he did it like that. Anyways, and I guess commercials are longer now. So it's two and three. Sir Bradley, what was you, as we were going there and chatting a little on the break, just thoughts on Tati Pogachar? Well, I think there was definitely just an observation, but the racing that we saw all day the first time through the Mouda Bataan. And Then we got this stalemate about a k to go on the climb. We were all waiting for something to happen. Tim Wellens did that pull. Now, Tim Wellens, if you ride like that and commit like that, we know what happens off the back of that.

It lights out. For Tim Wellens to do a ride like that and a pull like that, if the plan wasn't for Tadej to launch off that and go full beans. I think that was the plan, but I think there had to be a rethink of that plan when they heard Almeda had crashed. And so Tadej then found himself in a position where Wellens had pulled off. It was still 1.4 kilometres to the finish from there, I think. He may have thought that was too early to go. And we saw this stalemate and then Tade waited for his other teammates. Jonathan Arise, the Ecuadorian. And it kind of that, so from the crash from Al Maida, I think it just, it disrupted what their initial plan was. And I think the plan today was Welland's pull like that, you know, that we only know, you know, it's lights out normally off the

back of that. And Tade didn't know what to do in that moment. And he was, we saw in his interview after, he seemed quite concerned about the wellbeing of Almeida from that crash. And they had to have everything on the climb in the final. And look, we've done that climb before. 1400 meters to go, there's essentially only 400 meters of climbing left. The rest is a slight uphill, about one, two percent. We didn't really take a look at the wind, whether it was headwind or not, but perhaps it was just a smart decision. Okay, I'm just going to wait and see what these guys do here as opposed to just leading them out

to the finish line. Well, I think we're seeing super interesting evolution from Pogacar because it used to just be smash, smash. Like last guy goes, he always attacks. You could say, well, maybe he's not as fit as he wants to be. I kind of think we're seeing him basically grow up before our eyes. Like, okay, I lost a guy. Almeida is supposed to be here. And he waited for Narvaez. Like, you could see him wait. Because if he attacks, we know like Jonas today was strong enough to go with him.

And then as George says, he's stuck on that false flat with Jonas. That gets complicated. I thought it was really smart just to wait for Navias to come back, get to the front. He had a nice little lead out from Remco, that always helps. And then he could do his thing, and he's still got a tight, the crazy thing to me is it's basically a simple sprint finish, and he gets time gaps on everyone but Vindigard. That shows you the level is just- You could see though that Tadej not attacking caused confusion in that front. Everyone was kind of excited.

Ready to go. Remco was on the front thinking, okay, this wasn't supposed to happen. Remco didn't know what to do, so he just rode and carried on riding that 10, but it was kind of they were all waiting for Tade. That was the point there I thought now, the way Eunice looked today, it would have been a moment for him to maybe get a jump on Tadej in that sprint. Because when they do sprint, they stay the same. So Eunice has just as much speed as him, just not any more to pass him. So that was quite interesting. It was a good day for Eunice, I think, from that point of view.

I agree. I'd love to know what Eunice was saying to Matteo Jorgensen about 400 or 500 meters ago. He kept looking back and I felt like he was saying go go or something like that. I mean, they had two guys still there really well represented, but they don't really have an advantage in terms of like teammates against you right now currently. But like we keep saying, maybe that'll change in the mountains. We keep saying that a couple of days ago when Pogachar attacked normally every other race this year, he rode away from everybody with 10 K to go or even more 40k to go in other races. Like you said today he didn't attack so

maybe that's setting up for the anticipation for when we get to the mountains. And if you want to hold out any hope that this tour gets exciting and you want to become an armchair analyst of body language and tone I thought Pogar was subdued at the finish. It could have been what you just laid out, Bradley, or it could have been concern for Almeida or a whole host of other things, but he was more subdued than normal. Well, he also did a one arm salute today. Not the full. Not the double. Yeah. Now we're really breaking. You know, we saw that, you know, how exciting, you know, when he won the other day's hundredth

victory, you know, it was a full fist pump energy today was just a kind of subdued one arm. So do you think that's he's questioning? I mean, we're picking holes in things. We're trying to find. We're looking for hope. But we're also trying to keep, you know, this tour alive. Yeah, exactly. And not sit here and say it's done. Yeah, no, I agree. Right.

Well, they did lose, they lost a card to play. Like the Ameda crash, like it's all tatty now. There's no plan B, like they can't get cute in the mountains. Does it actually help him though? Does it help Pagache's main goal of like now I have a dedicated domestic assuming he's fine and can ride? You would think so because then he can do his work and just not try to keep his overall position which is a big advantage for a guy like that. Not having to worry about the last 5k of a climb just do his job and see the

douches. Yeah he's gonna feel that crush. Oh yeah. They showed him at the finish. He was torn up. All over. And that's the other thing too. Sometimes you hit on one side and you've just got the road rash on one side. So you save yourself because with road rash, obviously you get sore from that. But it affects things, really important things like sleep. That's if you just land on one side, you say, that's okay. I'll sleep on the other side tonight. He had it all over the place at first. I thought he caught a little more grass side of the road Clearly he didn't that's gonna affect him and he just didn't you saw his face at the finish

He was miserable. Yeah. Hmm and the crash that probably Just never should. Yeah, hopefully those other guys Eddie Dunbar went down hard Martinez was down hard. Martinez, who won yesterday, that's in my mind. Ben Healy went down. Ben Healy went down. Think about going from the highs of yesterday to busting your ass. Hopefully these guys are okay.

Dunbar apparently is going for a scan on his wrist. Two of the Baharand guys were messed up. They weren't moving. I'm proud of you. You're getting closer. Remember years ago? Years ago. Bahrain.

Bahrain. Years ago, they first started sponsoring this team and they spent all this money and people like us sit up here and George just absolutely butchering their name. Bahrain. Like, whoa. What? Yeah, you don't want to see that. And it's very uncommon with a group of 25 guys so close to the finish.

Yeah, 200 guys still there. That's that's normal and crash like that. But something like that just means that they were just going so hard on the gas. Heart rates at, you know, one ninety two hundred and you just you just can't react this quick. A little a little bit in the forest there. So you're getting you get these splotches of sun and shade. That's always tricky on the eyes guys are tired maybe just missed something cross the wheel and and but look bad not only that when you're in a group like that and you're coming close to the finish and it's

only 20 guys the last thing you're thinking is gonna happen is the crash when you're in a group of 150 guys you're like you're ready elbows out you're super aware you're this they're just thinking about i'm recovering trying to get to this next climb to see how good I can do. They're not thinking about having to avoid a crash whatsoever. Okay. I can't wait any longer. I can't wait any longer.

I have to, I've spent, I don't know, 30 years watching coverage of the tour of France and these helicopter shots of castles, creeks, yard art, hay bales, whatever this one, this one, this is unbelievable. All right, this is the local soccer field. Wow. I have no idea how they were able to do this. That is Bernard Hino, of course, from these parts of France, was in the race today in the lead car.

Really cool to see him there. I mean, we don't need to sit here and be like art critics, but this is incredible. That really is. That's AI for you. Oh, I never thought about AI. We always talk about, everybody talking about what AI will do for us. This is a stupid question though. What flag is that?

The Normandy. That's the Normandy flag. Is it the Breton flag or the Normandy? Breton, one of them. Okay. Yeah, the Breton flag. The black and white. Nice. Which is like a sister language to Welsh, right? Yeah. I believe so. Yeah. Gabriel, put it up one more time. This is just too good not to look at. I mean, anybody in that

parlor, whoever busted out their lawnmower and did that, just tell us how you did it. Send us a little clip. We're going to talk about tomorrow's stage. We're going to take some questions. I'm going to put Spencer on the spot, maybe, who he's got for outcomes later in the day. Well, then they won't watch outcomes. Okay. Well, then that's up to him if he wants to answer. It's his show.

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And the way they build them, you can pick anything you like and know that they work for marathons, workouts, trail running, high rocks, whatever you like to do. The Move listeners get 20% off. Just go to ROKA, R-O-K-A, ROKA.com, enter the code, the move at checkout. We haven't shouted out Kevin Bacallan either. I mean, the guy continues to impress. I actually didn't really consider him as like being able to hang on in the big mountains. Spencer pointed out, he got second place in the Tour of Switzerland. He's full of confidence right now. You can see the whole team is behind him. It's been quite the start of the Tour de France for Kevin Buck. Contracts up. Well, and the team maybe is folding or he does well enough.

You would think he has a home for 2026, but it might be down to a couple few teams. That is guaranteed to motivate any athlete, not just a cyclist, but any athlete. Yeah. Like that kid. Yeah. Some good stories. He's like having a good time too, which you can't underrate because he's, I think he's

from Normandy. So we've technically left his home region, but he like after the stage every day, you can tell he's just like having the time of his life. Good vibes. Can't underrate them. George was worried to crack in the mountains, but I'm not so sure. I'd actually, with Almeyda out too, that third podium spot wide open. So keep an eye on Almeyda.

Who are you giving the second spot to? What about Remco? I think, if we're being realistic, it's Tade. From what we saw today, it's Tade and Jonas. Remco, I don't know. I hope Johan Brunel's not watching. I'll be in big trouble. But the climbing to me, big question mark like Dauphiné, like she feels like he was getting dropped by Florian Lipowitz on the climbs and the Dauphiné like maybe he's

turned it around. But I have to say a completely different climbing capabilities since it's so late in the Tour de France. Oh, we keep discussing it from from Remco, from Jonas. In the back of my mind, I have hope that they've been planning to reach their peak climbing after 10 days of just getting through these stages, which they've done more than get through. I mean, Remco's won a stage, Jonas has been second, third a bunch of times. But they're in ideal position right now.

Hill, okay, so it's wide open for that third spot, right? You even got to throw a Mateo Jorgensen in there, don't you? I mean, Vakulán Jorgensen. Why not? Yeah. I mean, let's hope we're as interested in this as we are in who wins the yellow jersey. I don't think we should be too down. That was a good showing from you. I think everything we said today is spot on. I said, there was some I'm going to chalk it up to him being concerned about Al

Maida, his being subdued in the post. Someone's off and Jonas look good. Let's just hold on to that. The thing with Jonas is, aside from the time trial, which we had a theory on yesterday as to why he maybe lost so much time, you take Tadej out the picture. Jonas is clearly stronger than anyone else in this tour. So, you know, let's, you know, let's hold faith in him. Nope. On the time trial, I saw today from Visma that they identified the problem in

the time trial, but they are from Visma that they identified the problem in the time trial. Okay. But they are not telling us what it is. Oh, I bet you. I was about to say, here comes the scoop. I know we're going to talk about tomorrow, but the next two days, you know, now we're talking about stage eight, nine of the Tour de France. Now we're in the meat of it. You've gone through the crap stuff, but arguably these sprint stages could be some of the most dangerous, impactful stages

of the whole Tour de France thus far. I mean the sprinters are going to risk their lives to win a stage. I mean the amount of work and risk they're going to take and that's going to make it dangerous for the GC guys. Hopefully we don't see anything happen. But if it was me back in our day, I know that I'd be looking at tomorrow and the next day going shit man, I hope we get through this because we've gone through everything else. But now when everybody feels like they have a chance,

and it makes it a lot more dangerous. Let's look at tomorrow, 171 kilometers, you know, up and down kind of all day long. Okay, yeah, there it is. Got that sprint almost exactly halfway. Little schnock at the end with 16k to go. Nothing to speak of. But this is one for the sprinters. I did have a look at the run-in just because you're talking about crashes and we expressed

concern or we had questions about the run-in several days ago. Actually, I mean, sir Bradley, look at this run in. I mean, this is interesting, right? You're down here hard right, big round about, 2K to go another. You know, they're just not that straightforward. You don't know. I mean, you got to be a heads up bike racer. But we're looking at, I guess we could have a breakaway.

You're starting to look at the last opportunities for the sprinters. There'll be a breakaway that the sprinter teams will let get away just to have control. Neutralize. They'll go to the front right away, keep them at two, three minutes, and reel them in. I think a little track tomorrow. This is Jonathan Milon. We're looking at two more true sprint stages left. Chamsouly Zayb may no longer be one of those.

And a bucket of points available to them in these sprint stages. So it's like, Grimai and Milan, if they're really serious about green, their teams are going to have to do a lot of work. Did you see that sprint today, how easily Milan won that sprint? He's the best intermediate sprinter in the world. He won by like three, four bike lengths. Yeah. Okay. It was on a different planet in that sprint. Still got to get to Paris. Yep. Questions? We got any, by the way, on the questions front, if you do have questions, send them over. info at wedo.team. info at wedo.team. I've got two. So the first one's for Bradley. So this is from Carl. He said,

I know Pogacar was the fifth rider in history to wear all three jerseys, but how many have lost them all on the same day? Oh, you know, the answer. I don't know the answer to that. You know more about the Tour de France than anyone I know. I had to look this up. It's, it's a one person Bernardino. Not bad company to be. Oh no. Yeah. No. And then the second one I I Think I know the answer this from will do teams listen to each other's radio channels If not allowed are the rumors they listen in signal steel. They definitely used to didn't they yeah, yeah

used to have a scanner didn't they and scan across the I'm gonna take the fifth Take the fifth on that look I like it was so that That gave you your answer. I love this idea. I've said this for many, many years. There's always been this debate about race radios, communication between the riders and the team car.

There are two camps. There's the camp of we shouldn't allow this. It's making the race racing too predictable. The athletes don't have to think, et cetera, et cetera. There's also a camp that says for safety and for wanting to be a modern sport, you should have communication. I agree with that.

I'm in the latter camp. But I've also always said that, look, this is content. And we're now starting, the last couple of years, you see that. I'm in the latter camp. But I've also always said that, look, this is content, right? And we're now starting, the last couple of years, you see that, the, at least here in the US on Peacock, they will actually have snippets of communications between the director and the riders. I think that's interesting. Yeah. And, and I, and you see it in every, if we compare ourselves, I like to compare cycling to motor sports, whether it be NASCAR,

whether it be Formula One, you hear those communications. To me, that's interesting content. We've gotten there. I don't think radios are going away. Of course, in and around that conversation, it leads to other things. Should we not have cycling computers? What was the other stuff they say? Should we not have handlebars?

I haven't heard the one about no handlebars, although George did attempt to write a section of Perry Roubaix without handlebars. That was- I still got my bump here from that. Anybody want to see it? That's my Roubaix bump. You guys see it? Is that my rubay bump. You guys see it? Maybe, is that why your arm is so short? Cause that one arm when it's time to go to dinner

with everybody, that right arm's just really short. It can't quite reach the pocket where the wallet is. Speaking of dinner, I was going to make you a nice dinner last night, like, yo, what time are you coming home? Late. That was the only word. Why, what's up, everything good? Nope.

Didn't care. And then it's funny, if you know someone's stealing, you're like an F1, it's all public. So they know people are listening and then you get like the second layer where they give incorrect information to their own driver to try to trick the other teams. So. Well, that then becomes the question, right? In terms of this content and making race communication public, do you have another system where there's maybe another channel that isn't public?

I don't know. Maybe they should learn like Native American languages or something and then they are the only people that know. Well, we had that advantage with Johan because he spoke five languages. And then we also had American slang that nobody, even if they spoke English, could understand. We had a little code going in case they were listening to us. Like, I don't. I don't.

And you guys would never manipulate it, right? Say that. I don't. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. For a first go, that was exceptional. Po don mo fo. That was exceptional. Podongmofo. Time for the Ventum Trivia of the day. The Muir de Bretagne is featured twice in the closing kilometers, was featured twice in

the closing kilometers of stage seven. A modern monument known for decisive moments in the early stages. How is it called? Oh, here we are testing the boy from Plano. Oh, boy. Caliquely. Don't stop me with these words. Caliquely.

Caloquely. Caloquely. Let me say it again. How is it caloquely? Feed the animals. Okay. Sorry.eding the animals. Sorry, feed the animals. The Myrtle-Breton featured twice in today's Closing Kilometers, a modern monument known

for decisive moments. How is it colloquially known? That is your question of the day, Ventum trivia question of the day for Stage 7. And the answer to yesterday's question, which really wasn't a tough one. The answer to that one was six categorized climbs. Hmm. That's interesting. We're in the meat of it now. We are.

Where we can, we made the, I don't know if it's a mistake, but we got ahead of ourselves. We looked at tomorrow's sprint stage, Sunday's sprint stage, and then we, maybe on honor of Bastille Day, the fact it's not your traditional Monday rest day, we looked at Monday's stage. If you folks want to get excited about what's coming, I know it's a weekend, you may have other things to do, don't watch the tour, but go look at Monday's stage. Holy hell. It's inspiring. It is.

Massive Central, you think what? Hot, bad roads? Terrible roads. I still have nightmares about the Massive Central, you think what hot, bad roads. I still have nightmares about the Massif Central, especially if you're trying to control the yellow Jersey. It's big, wide open roads, small roads and up. It's like straight up and down for two, three K straight down for two, three K.

And when you have these big roads, you have guys just flying in from behind with momentum, attacking you at the bottom of the climbs as a team control on the the Tour de France, there's nothing worse than that, I can assure you. That's right. You know, George, always the ever nice guy and always just very pleasant, very peaceful. When not in the Massif Central, I'd never seen the man. So he was channeling his inner lance. He was so cranky during those stages. Well, it was up to me to control the breakaways.

So it's a very stressful job. I'm back there like, what's the big deal? Just let them, just let these guys have some chances, George. Just let them know. Let them sit out there a little bit. And you guys, you hate it. Yeah, I mean, everything looks the same in the Massif Central. It's all green and tough.

And hot. And hot. Yeah. Let's see what the massive Central. It's all green and tough. And hot. And hot. Yeah. Let's see what the heat does. All right. Last two stages, last two chances for sprinters starting tomorrow and Sunday. Best of luck to them. Everybody, thank you for tuning in. Spencer, thanks for coming out from behind. Great addition. Thanks for having me. Well, from behind.

You'll be back tomorrow too? Welcome to the party. We'll see how it goes. I thought he behaved today. He's going to meditate on his bike ride home and probably pick the winner for tomorrow.