THEMOVE - Did the Giro's GC Battle Just Get Even More Interesting? | Giro d'Italia 2026 | THEMOVE+

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

Johan Bruyneel and Spencer Martin break down Tuesday's long individual time trial, which was won in dominant fashion by Filippo Ganna, with his teammate Thymen Arensman coming in second to shoot up the overall standings in third place overall. The pair discuss race leader Afonso Eulálio holding onto the Maglia Rosa despite a poor day out, and what to make of Jonas Vingegaard's less-than-stellar ride, which saw him fail to distance Felix Gall as much as anticipated. They also look forward to tomorrow's Stage 11, giving their picks for the win and if they expect any GC action on the tough parcours in the second half of the stage. Become a WEDŪ Member Today to Unlock VIP Access & Benefits: https://access.wedu.team Caldera Lab: A small habit with big results. Go to https://CalderaLab.com/THEMOVE and use code THEMOVE for 20% off your first order.

Yeah, okay, but we're talking here about another caliber of rider, Spencer. You know, I think we, you know, Jonas doesn't get enough credit for what he has accomplished already. Let's not forget this is a double tour de France winner and a Vuelta winner. You know, this is a guy who has shown already that he is an incredible good stage racer over three weeks. So I would say even more. I think we can not forget that. Even more impressive than that. I don't think he's finished below second in a grand tour since.

2020. Exactly. Yeah. So yeah, that's super impressive. And the only guy he lost to was Espulacar. Everybody, welcome back to the Move Plus. I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johan Bernal.

We are breaking down stage 10 of the Giro d'italia, a 42-long individual, I'm sorry, 42 kilometer long individual time trial. One by, you guessed it, Philippe O'Gana. One minute and 54 seconds ahead of second place as teammate, Time and Aronsman with Remy Kavanaugh coming in a third, one minute, 59 seconds back. In terms of the GC, Aronsman was the top GC finisher with Derek G. West, 20 seconds behind him, finishing 216 behind Ghana. And then the big story of the day, Jonas Vindigard, the presumed favorite, the eventual winner of this race,

many people assume, was three minutes behind Ghana. So that's over a minute behind Timean Aronsman. and showing just, I guess, how maybe mediocre his day was. He lost time to Ben O'Connor. He also did not put a ton of time into the race leader, Ulario, who still has the race lead by 27 seconds and was actually taking time out of Indigard coming in to the final few kilometers. Yon, not Yonis.

Yohan, you told me, I have not fact-checked this, but that Yonis lost 20 seconds inside the final four kilometers of racing to Aronsman. If it's not true, it's close to true. To Ghana. To Ghana. Okay. Okay.

But something I did note and notice is after T2. So he went through the second intermediate time check pretty like pretty strongly compared to Aronsman. And then he starts bleeding time. So he loses 0.58. So basically half a second per kilometer to Arnizman between time check one and time check two. But between time check two and three, it's 2.4.

seconds per kilometer and then time check three to the finish it's almost three seconds a kilometer he was standing up a lot which is unusual for him even on a road stage not advisable on a time trail stage and he stopped pedaling before the finish he's kind of coasted in through the finish line none of those are great signs that you're comfortable or feeling good in a time trial but what was your takeaway from the stage joan well take away first of all of course not a surprise gana wins ideal time trial for him um 42 kilometers, which is very unusual. So nobody's really used to those kind of distances anymore in grand tours.

But above all, Spencer, the dominance and the speed. I mean, 55 kilometers, it's 54.9 something, 55 kilometers per hour. This is the fastest time trial ever in a ground tour of more than 40 kilometers. I think it was since 2003 when David Miller won a flattish time trial. I think I'm not, I don't remember not where it was. It was a naught, right? In 2003 Twitter fronts? Yeah, could be.

Yeah. It's crazy actually that it's taken that long to beat that. If you consider how good their equipment was today. Yeah, exactly. So, so yeah. Well, I mean, first of all, Spencer, the main reason is that there are no more 40 plus kilometer time trials. That's a good point.

Yeah, hard to beat it when you don't do it. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, super dominant performance of Ghana. I mean, two minutes to everybody is his own teammate 157. And then everybody else more than two minutes. That was the main takeaway. And then the average time trial, I mean. would say of Jonas Wingergaard.

He finished his 13th. You could say, well, last year in Tour de France, he also finished 13th in the first flat time trial was also 30-something kilometers. But this is not the same competition. I think I expected Jonas to be except, except Aronsman. I expected him to be the best of the GC riders. And today he was not.

Derr G. was better. Ben O'Connor was better. and then Hinley and Pilitzeri were not far behind him. So I think that says that Jonas did an average time trial, not a great time trial.

Takes less time than everybody expected on Felix Gall. He takes 1 minute, 22 seconds. It's still considerable for somebody who didn't do a great time trial. And as I said yesterday, you know, he was not going to be able to get Ulau

out of the pink jersey. O'Lolly defended the jersey pretty well. He's still leading with 27 seconds, I think. But I think that's the main, nobody's surprised about Garner's winning. I'm surprised he took so much time on everybody, but at the same time, it should not be real a surprise. This was his main goal of the whole Giro. He's been preparing for this in the race already for the last three, four days,

saving as much possible energy, all the others who are close probably not um so anyways impressive performance impressive performance at that speed over 40k that's that's really something else uh but i think that the majority of of the fans and the people from within the race are probably surprised that jonas was not putting his stamp on the race today. Having said that, you know, he is still the big favorite. He is, if I'm not mistaken, almost two minutes ahead of his next rival, which is now Arnsman, and then two and a half minutes, I guess, on Felix Gall. So, you know, after, you could say after one mountain stage and one time trial, it's not a bad situation. I know you have,

probably some other opinion about that but but i think overall it's it's the the outcome is not bad although i think that today there may be some doubts about his form i'm not particularly worried about it for him but but i think that people would have expected a more dominant performance if if i'm being honest well so he's 130 over arn's been in the gc and then okay okay about two minutes on two minutes on goal and right under that 157 under gall i believe um just i i don't know if i'm like if yonis is at this shape we saw today and he finishes the race he probably wins it overall like he won the up the last up he'll finish last summit finish maybe he was sitting on more than you know we're kind of in our little bubble we don't we're not in italy consuming

italian media but that was quite controversial joan people were upset about that uh yeah but Yeah, I saw a lot of people being upset about it. I would say if you're upset about that, try to go sit on somebody's wheel while you're right, seven lots per kilo. I think, Spencer, what we really should, you know, try to figure out is, okay, people are upset about it. I think what really counts is,

are his rivals and rival teams upset? I'm going to say no. I think nobody was blaming Jonas and Vismov for what they were doing the other day on that uphill finish where Felix Gall attacked and then finally, Jonas attacked with 900 meters to go. It's the most logical thing to do.

Especially, let's not forget, you know, let's not forget that Jonas is not at his top form. And, you know, although he says, it's not true, but he has the Tour de France in the back of his mind. He knows that he needs to be better at the Tour than in the Giro. So I can understand.

and that he rides as economic as possible by saving himself energy and by saving his team as much as possible. Because they still have their work cut out for the rest of the Gero, which in typical Gero fashion, what we've seen until now is nothing compared to what's still ahead in terms of mountain stages. And so there's still a lot to come. So you need to basically take it day by day and try to save energy as much as you can. Yeah, especially his team is going to have a, yeah, that's going to be a bear of a project controlling the race in the third week.

But here's, I just want to say, I think if he continues at this form, he probably wins the overall. A couple data points that I find a little concerning. So just in this time trial, I would change the word probably to, for sure. Well, would you if he went, if he, if he forgot what race we're talking about here, this thing is insane. Remember last year, would you have guessed Simon Yates wins that race? crazy stuff happens. Remember the Stephen Roycewick? Who would have said

Croiswick's going to lose that? I'd be crazy. Yeah, okay. We're talking here about another caliber of rider, Spencer. You know, I think we, you know, Jonas doesn't get enough credit for what he has accomplished already. Let's not forget

this is a double tour de France winner and a Vuelta winner. You know, this is a guy who has shown already that he is an incredible good stage racer over three weeks. So I would say even more We can not forget that

Even more impressive than that I don't think he's finished below second In a Grand Tour since 2020 Exactly Yeah So yeah that that's super impressive And the only the only guy he lost to was Espigachar Yeah

Okay okay all right And he's not here Couple data points He will lose the thing though he will lose at some point Like that's what we all have to wrap our heads around Is all these guys will lose It happens. It will happen.

So he loses 1.6 seconds per kilometer to Arnsman today. That's not actually, when we consider the buffer he has over Aronsman, it's not a disaster. And if you go back to the tour last year, at the stage, what was that stage five time trial, 33 kilometers long, he loses 1.9 seconds to Bagachar. So, you know, actually there is precedent for this. Why he's getting, why he seems to be getting worse at Grand Tour time trials, long ones, flat ones, is a little, that's maybe another question for another day. But last year's the tour, like he's beating Ben O'Connor.

You know, today he's losing to Ben O'Connor and losing so much time late in the race when we consider the fact that go back to stage seven, he loses time in the last 4K, he's coming back to those guys. That makes me wonder, is something not right here? Is this not just bad form? That's something. First of all, especially bad form, no. Okay, you can't, let's call it managed form or whatever the project is here.

Okay. The thing is we don't know, right? We don't know what's happening. I mean, you know, apparently there's, I mean, there's a rumor that there's a virus in the stomach buck in the in the Pelotone. For example, Jay Hindley and Julia Pelizari were not yesterday not able to go and recall the time trial because they had stomach problems. And so they decided to just, you know, stay at the hotel and manage their energy as good as possible. And apparently there's a lot of teams who have sick riders. Visma has been asked the question.

They say they have nobody who is ill or sick. But of course, you know, if it would be the case and especially if it would be Jonas, they won't say that, yeah, yeah, it's true. Jonas is sick. They're not going to say it, you know. So we don't know. We don't know exactly what's happening. But, but I mean, okay, I think, I think everything's also a bit out of proportion because of the huge gap that Ghana created. And then, of course, you know, like Jonas loses three minutes on Ghana.

But, you know, he loses one minute to Ardansman, who is his, you know, the biggest rival in the best time trial is of the G.C. Well, he does only gain one, twenty, two. two over Gaul, which you would have been shocked by, right, at the start of the stage? Not really. Not really. Not really. Let's not forget, Gaul is in great shape, you know, somebody who's in good shape. And we're already 10 days in the race. You know, Gall, I mean, I mean, he didn't have a good time trial. He didn't even have a good time trial. Yeah. That's the craziest. I mean, Egan Bernal had a bad time trial today. Here, let's say, you don't watch the stage. You don't know what happened. I run up to you on the street.

I say Jonas Finnegard beat Egan Bernal, who had a bad day by 47 seconds. The first thing you would ask me is, where did he crash? You know, you would think something that had gone wrong. No, it's true. I mean, he definitely should have been at least five places higher up. You know, so. But I repeat, you know, if I look at this from the team perspective and the team manager, it's okay, you know what?

not great, but our overall situation is pretty good, you know. We had one big mountain stage. We had one time trial and we are virtually in the lead. And today was the day that Ardnzman had to take time on Jonas because he's not going to take more time in mountain stages. The only guy who is who's really worrying for Jonas is Felix Gall. Other than that, there's nobody he should be worried about, in my opinion. so it looks pretty good.

Probably. So, question, Spencer. Was it, I mean, it's a job? Was it the skin suit? Yeah, exactly. Apparently, Visma said that their skin suit that they've been working on the whole off-season is a minute faster over 40K.

Now he was riding in the blue skin suit of Castelli, which is not bad either. By the way, I mean, I repeat, I think it's completely not. that professionals cycling at this level, the best cyclists who have and the best teams who have invested all that, all their resources in getting as fast as possible then on the key days are not, are not able to wear their own clothing. It's like, you know, it's like saying, okay, you know what? For the time trials, we have a sponsor for the time trial bikes.

They sponsor the leaders. Yeah, exactly. You have to ride that bike. It's a bit extreme. But only if you're in the lead, everybody else gets to ride their awesome bike. Yeah. Yeah. But speaking of skin suits and, you know, marginal gain, Spencer, I just want to bring up,

I mean, I didn't want to talk about it, but I have to. I have to, you know. We're talking about all these teams with their huge budgets, you know, and their, you know, their super advanced programs. Felix Gowl. What the hell was that, man? I mean, I don't know if Gabriel can pull up the picture here of Felix Gall coming over the finish with, so, I mean, decathlon, what is it called?

Decatlon, CMA, CMG or CGM? Yeah. Yeah. Deccatlon, CMA, CGM, you know, team decathlon and your management and specialist performance managers and scientists and arrow gurus. what was that this guy i mean i have i don't think it was the error guru's decision we should say well yeah i mean look i mean it's it's clear that if you see this this helmet it's it nowadays you know the the the tendons is to go to bigger helmets to form one unit with the shoulders

and that makes a lot of sense but it's with an integrated visor you know it kind of has to have the visor or else you're just catching so i think so i think philix gal doesn't like the visor to the visor of and wrote normal, normal. But this is not arrow, Felix. I mean, you are already not arrow. But, I mean, plus, I mean, come on. It just looks really bad. This is anti-publicity for modern cycling.

It's not my son only has nice things to say about how he loves these pro helmets. And he goes, why does it look so ugly? I'm like, ooh. But then also, look, if you see, if you see the comparison with Felix Gall and then underneath Jonas Wingerard, the red. I mean, here you see the difference of what it did. So, yeah, that was, that was really, that was a joke, man. That was a joke.

I mean, I remember, you know, many years ago, I think it was, what was it, 2020 or 2021 when Primos was riding that weird laser helmet in the tour. I think it was too small or something. Yeah. You know, everybody's making fun of him. but this, this is like, this is next level, man. This, this was really bad, really bad. And you have to imagine this.

Did you think the same thing? Yeah, I thought something was wrong. I was like, oh, no, like he's forgotten something. I have to imagine it was a comfort decision. It cannot be speed-based. But this, no, no, no. Even goes, it makes it even more shocking. He only lost 122 to Vindigard.

Well, I don't understand Spencer because, you know, Deccatlon is known now as the team on the up, you know, big budget. They brought in a lot of people, a lot of smart people. They invested a lot. They have, apparently they have great bikes. And then you do this stupid maneuver. It's like this must be, okay, Felix Gall who doesn't like the visor. But hey, man, listen, if it's faster, whether you like it or not, you should wear it, man.

It's like, it makes no sense. I think he kind of marches to the beat of his own drum, which is the feeling. I get. I don't remember there was a welta where he was like off the back every day when they needed him and then he was almost winning stages some days. I think Phyllis Gall is he's doing his own. He's got his own program going on. I think somebody should have told him, man, hey, listen, we put so much research and time in this, you're wearing this helmet, man. This is, this is for your own good. Yeah, I don't, I don't get it. It's kind of definitely a little bit of an own goal there. I mean, She also mentioned so much time and money goes into these skin suits, as we say, Arrow, trying to be Arrow.

And then Lorenzo Malese, your new best friend, gets ninth on the stage wearing his ice fest because he forgot to take it off. Can you imagine how uneradynamic that is compared to the skin suit? Yeah, that's, that's, yeah, I saw his interview. He was, I mean, he was joking. I mean, first of all, he was admitting. He said, yeah, such a stupid mistake. He was, so he had an ice, cooling, cooling down vest on before. before the time trial, went on the ramp, they were counting down,

and all of a sudden he realized he had his ice fest still on, which is already awesome. Why is nobody telling him, hey, you have your ice fest on? But he did the whole time trial with the ice fest on, and he finished ninth in the time trial. That's crazy. This guy, I mean, he's in great shape. He's in great condition.

This guy is an ex-world champion time trial, under 23, by the way. So, but, you know, I mean, it shows you to, you know, it's all, it's about the power. Without the vest, we don't know how much faster. I mean, we would definitely not have won, but maybe he was in the top five without the vest. I would have to imagine he would have been. And just to get people a feeling for, you know, what was what people were running here. So Ghana, we have his power at about 460 watts for the effort. And I mean that maybe there's probably people listening to this and saying,

460 for 40 minutes, I could do that easy in my sleep. But the thing is, though, you look at him in this time trial. He was so arrow the whole time. It is not easy to produce that power when you're in that position. That's what makes him special. Like, that's also what makes Remco-evipal unbeatable, right? Because he can just tuck himself down and keep his power high. And Ghana almost, he almost appeared to be increasing his speed and power throughout the day.

Like every time check, his average speed was higher than the time check before. I think as fast as time check was the slightly uphill one. It was like a 2% uphill. He's going 57K an hour up that thing. You would probably get pulled over on most streets because he's going over the speed limit at that speed. And his gear, it's kind of interesting gearing that Johan told me about. Ghana was running a 64-tooth big chain ring, single chain ring, I assume.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Time and Arnsman's 66 tooth, Yonis Vindigard's 68 tooth. So bigger than Ghana, significantly bigger. That's crazy. That's crazy. I mean, it's crazy. I mean, especially like, okay, of course, I'm old school. Now, I remember, I remember we were riding 53, 54. I remember my first year on when I was on Anse, which was the time trial team back then, you know, first, first race I did was Tour of Valencia and we had this special time trial bikes and I took the, I got on the bike and I checked this.

180 cranks and 56 chain ring. I could almost not move it, you know. Yeah. But that was back then, right? I think the big chain ring in the front makes sense, especially we've done a little bit of comparison. If you're 64, 66, 13 or 14, you can keep a high cadence and you go very fast and the chain is in the middle. There's less friction with a bigger chain ring because, you know, the circle is bigger. You're not the biggest circles at every point, basically. Yeah.

So anyway, 68 looks incredible big. Almost bigger than his chain rings. Then his, then his rank. Yeah, these pedals barely go past the chain ring. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But listen, I mean, I think Jonas had a really high cadence.

You know, he was always between 95 and 100 cadence. So they've done, they've done the tests. it's a bit difficult for me to understand why Jonas would ride with a 68 and Ghana with a 64. That makes no sense. And it would be a different story if we said, wow, he looked amazing on that thing. He looked awful. He looked so uncomfortable. And you're like, is that chenering too big?

Would be my first question. Yeah. I don't know if that's. I mean, listen, it's huge. It's huge. I don't know if that's the reason of his. average time trial, but I mean, I think, you know, after all, he saved the day and he is where he wants to be. I think that's the most important after today's time trial.

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you feel terrible. I mean, Pelazari finishes 318 back. So that's only 18 seconds slower than Vindigard. And we know he was sick yesterday. That would kind of suggest there could be sickness with Vindigard. Do you think this is going to be a problem for the rest of the race? I don't know. I don't know.

I mean, listen, if both Belizari and Hindley were sick, it's not a disaster today, right? I mean, but Zah loses 18 seconds to Wingergaard and Hintley loses 30 seconds. It's actually a pretty good day for both of them. It's not bad. Yeah. It's not bad. I mean, it helps if your, when your weekday is, you know, falling together with Wingergaard's average day, right? So all in all, I think it's more or less zero operation.

I think they both expected to lose time to Jonas and probably they expected to lose more time to him. and what they lost today. But yeah, I mean, you know, we don't know. I mean, I've heard rumors already since two days ago that Palizari was a bit sick. Now I got this report this morning that both of them had to stay in the hotel. And they couldn't preview the course. So it's not good. It's not good in the middle of a state race.

You know, it weakens you. It's difficult to recover from it. and it's just a question of, you know, how deep is this in the team? You know, I mean, if one guy gets sick, now they're off the course going to take all the precautions, but the damage may be done already. Yeah, you just get. I mean, the thing is, if he is, okay, let's, before we tease that out, let's say he is sick, let's say he has a problem.

If he had to pick one rider that's going to challenge him, who would it be? Challenge Jonas? Yeah, for the G.C. Felix Carl. Yeah, he's two minutes back, basically. And he's losing time on every uphill finish. So you start to actually get a little difficult to imagine how somebody else wins this. The thing I, I think Phoenix Gall is going to stay constant on the uphills.

And, you know, he just has to hope that Jonas has a bad day. Yeah. Or is sick. I mean, nobody's free of it, you know? Are we underestimating Ben O'Connor at all? This guy's not that far behind. He's now 24 seconds behind Felix Gall and looked fantastic today. Yeah.

I mean, could be a podium candidate. I don't see him winning, though. I don't see him winning. It would, yeah. I would be surprised if he wins. I mean, he did finish second. He did finish second of the vault when Primos won it in 2024, which reminds me of our leader, Ullario.

Where does he finish after? He's still in the race lead. He's still almost two minutes in front of third place. Yeah. I think he can keep it till the next, my own stage. When is that in three or four stages? Stage 14, so into the week. So, you know, of course his team is going to do everything they can to,

defend. It is a gift for Visma that he's still in the lead. It's a, it's great. It's great to have a team that they know he's they're going to defend. So I think he can stay, yeah, he can stay in pink till stage 14 and I mean, he could finish top five. The thing is, I mean, Jonas is probably going to take the race lead on stage 14, but he was out climbing almost everybody else. So is he even going to drop that much further than second? Once he's out of the leader's jersey, it's a different game, Spencer. Okay. Yeah.

I think, I think, you know, now in the leader's jersey, you're, you surpass your, your limits and you go deeper and deeper as deep as you can. And then, you know, once you're out of the leader's jersey, you kind of, the balloon deflates, you know, and then bit by bit you lose time. Remember, who was it? Was it allah Philippe in the tour when he was in yellow? Yep. Yeah. And he lost it. And then, I mean, that was a weird tour. And then they kind of called off all the mountain stages. A little actually suspect if you think about it. You're like French guy in the lead. Oh, he's dropped. Call the stage off. Cancel all the mountain stages.

No, only two. I mean, there was one stage that was canceled because of a, you know, a landslide, I guess. And then the day after they, yeah, there was a lot of damage to road. There was like a 40 kilometer stage. And I think. I think Ella Philippe lost quite some time there. He still finished. Yeah, he did fall off the podium. He still finished fourth overall, though. Yeah. But had that stage run as normal, it finished fifth overall, had it run as normal, that was a big day that they called off.

So, yeah, probably. Who finished fourth? That's a great question. And I love to use this as a trivia question to bend people's perception of reality. Do you have any recollection? It was not It was not It was not

It was not It was Emmanuel Bookman Oh wow Finishes fourth And I was like wow Look at this up And he's 156 behind the winner Of the Tour de France

This guy's a star Of the future Never did anything I would I would assign this guy If I was a team manager I was like Oh wow

Look at this guy I was blown away by this And then that is I mean everything changed too. I mean, COVID happened and the sport looks totally different the next year. So you're not too worried about this. You think he honest?

I'm not worried about no, no, no, no. Okay. No, I'm not. Unless he's sick. Unless he's sick, of course, but other than that, no. You bring us though to our preview of the next stage. And if he is sick, he's picked the perfect time to be sick

because we have a few days of likely breakaway days. Tomorrow. is 150, sorry, I'm going backwards in time. Tomorrow is 195 kilometers, quite a bit of climbing, 3,000 meters of climbing, but it's another one of these flat-ish starts, like flatish first 100K, 1, 2, 3 categorized climbs, and then a descent into the finish.

We're kind of working our way up into the pre-alps up toward Torino in Piedmont, probably a breakaway day. And then we don't have another, likely GC day. So if that's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday is the next big G.C. And then Sunday,

oddly a sprint day. I don't know why they do that because that would be when most people are watching. But how do you think tomorrow plays out, Johan, and who's going to win this? Yeah, I think tomorrow's a breakaway day. It's 108 kilometers still the first big climb. About 3,000 meters, I guess,

of elevation in total. But But all the elevation is in the last 90k kilometers. There's four climbs. There's three categories clams and there's another climb. There's one climb with Cat 2 climb with a very steep part at the end, like about three kilometers around 9, 10%. So, of course, it's going to be more or less the same stage like when Norvice won his second stage.

Strong breakaway, I think. But I'm also curious to see something might happen in the GC group also because it's always a test the day after a time trial, especially the day after a long time trial like this. Some GC rider may pay the price. Some riders do not digest the effort of a time trial as well as others. So on that cat two climb, we may see some GC action or somebody. who is, you know, sick and has been hiding it, could be found out there. So I'm curious to see what's going to happen there.

But definitely, I think the stage win comes from the breakaway. Difficult to predict. We're going to see the same guys, you know, but, you know, guy like Chicone. Chicona needs to be in the break. And our vice is probably going to be in the breakaway again. It's going to be the same guys we've seen already. Melesi.

Yeah. I think Malesi has a chance. Yeah, I would pick him. I think he could win the stage. I'm going to go with got to be Chacon. Chaconay's got to be up there, right? Yeah, yeah. I'm going to go Chikone for the stage win.

I mean, looking at this profile, if you do suspect Vindigard of being sick, these are some pretty hard climbs. You start the day with the 7.5 kilometer long climate at 5%. And then you go in, they need to center right into a 10K long climb at 6.2%. you're still pretty far from the finish like 56k from the finish but you have a plateau you just send down you have two more categorized climbs one more categorized climb can that be right and then they have a bonus sprint at the top of a 5k 6% long climb so if it's not categorized it should be but these are hard climbs between that and the finish so if someone's in trouble you could put a lot

of time into them but who knows how sick anybody is i mean if Emily and pelazari couldn't leave the hotel room and then they're putting up those time trial performances today. Maybe they won't be in trouble. I don't know. Pretty good. Listen, if they were sick yesterday, it's pretty good outcome today. They could be happy about that. So maybe it's just, I mean, who knows?

It's maybe a 24-hour thing. You never know with those stomach bugs, you know. Sometimes I wonder about all this information too. Yeah. Listen, we don't know. We don't know. But listen, Spencer, automatically, whether it's true or not, usually after 10 days half of the peloton is sick anyway because they're so depleted you know

and they're so at the end of their resources that whatever the tiniest little thing you're not your body can't fight it anymore and you're coughing and you have you know you have runny nose or sword throat or you know everybody's half of the riders are sick off of 10 days and they're crazy skinny that doesn't help either yeah yeah yeah so you're going to and Malesse for the win? Yeah. I'm going to go Julio Chikone for the win. We'll see.

Okay. We'll see how he makes out. But anything else before we take off? That's it for me, Spencer. All right. Well, we'll be back tomorrow to talk about the stage. Hopefully we have something to talk about in the GC group, but perhaps not. And we'll see you soon, Johan.

Okay. Thanks. Bye.