THEMOVE - Giro d'Italia Stage 1 Analysis & Stage 2 Preview | THEMOVE+

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

Johan Bruyneel and Spencer Martin break down Mads Pedersen and Lidl-Trek's impressive ride to win the opening stage of the Giro d'Italia, as well as unexpected early GC action behind, before previewin...g Stage 2, which serves up a short, explosive time trial that will feature both a battle of the stage win and the overall race lead. Listen in to see how the duo thinks the action will play out, who will come out on top, and which riders present the best betting value. Caldera Labs: Skincare doesn’t have to be complicated—but it should be good. Upgrade your routine with Caldera Lab and see the difference for yourself. Go to https://www.CalderaLab.com/THEMOVE and use THEMOVE at checkout for 15% off your first order. Manukora: Now, it’s easier than ever to try Manukora Honey. Head to https://MANUKORA.com/THEMOVE to save up to 31% plus $25 worth of free gifts with the Starter Kit, which comes with an MGO 850+ Manuka Honey jar, 5 honey travel sticks, a wooden spoon, and a guidebook! ● That’s https://MANUKORA.com/THEMOVE to save 31% plus $25 worth of free gifts.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you're, if you're a GC contender, uh, you can't be too far back on the, on the top of the last time. If you're, if you're too far back is because the first day you don't have the legs, you're suffering. Otherwise you're in front, right? Uh, you're in the top 20 and not in the top 40, not in 40th place. Everybody welcome to the move plus Giro d'Italia edition. We are breaking down stage one, which is wrapped wrapped up in Tirana, Albania. And then at the end of the show, we are going to preview stage two.
Starting point is 00:00:32 I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johan Berniel and he is going to tell us how in the heck Mads Pedersen won this stage and who is going to win tomorrow. But before we get into tomorrow's time trial, Johan, I want to talk a little bit about today. If you didn't see it, but you want to listen to the show. Anyway, spoilers coming up right now. Mads Pedersen wins over Wout Van Aert. It was, I thought a little,
Starting point is 00:00:56 I thought it was going to be a hard stage. I did not believe this talk of sprinters getting to the line like pure sprinters. And it was a hard stage, especially for the first day of a grand tour. Started off easy. There was a long climb in the middle, but Visma, Lisa bike took it up, took the pace up, made it, made it tough.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I assume they wanted to hurt the sprinters. It was a little weird cause they had a sprinter in their team and Olaf Koi. And then there was two loops of the same climb when they got into the city. And I had never, I've never been to Albania before. I was kind of shocked to how mountainous the terrain was. And it looked like some of the riders were because little Trek takes the pace up on those last two climbs, looks really strong, start shedding any of the remaining sprinters.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I think Caden Grove has made it to the last time up that climb, but got dropped. But then what I, I did not expect is there was, there was splits at the top of the at the top of the climb in the lead group like Tymon Arnsbend's off the back, Derek Gee, my wild card pick off the back. They descend down. It's a small group. I mean, it was what 20, like 30 something riders on the same time, but really there wasn't that many riders contesting the win. And then it's a reduced sprint. Mads Pedersen wins over Alvin Art, who we can talk about if he did anything wrong there.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I thought maybe he waited too late. He looked fast coming fast at the end. And then a rider Orleas Arlar from Venezuela. Or Luis Orlar from Venezuela. And then a rider I've never heard of, Francisco Busado getting fourth from Intermarchewanti and then Tom Pitcock fifth. I did not expect GC action, but there was GC splits with Ahrensman and Derrida losing time and then Mika Landa crashing out of the race entirely on that descent. And then Jay Vine crashed, finished, lost time, but I can't imagine he's going to play in any GC role.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Unclear what he can do for the team at this point even. But what were your main takeaways from the stage, Johan? Yeah, well, as you say, Spencer, it was harder than expected. The real sprinters didn't make it. I mean, you can say Van Aert and Peterson and Olar are also real sprinters, especially in this field. Right. But you see some Bennett and Kingersen and Ola are also real sprinters, especially in this field, right? But you see some Bennett and Kinggroves and Olaf Koi, you know, really pure sprinters, it was way too hard for them.
Starting point is 00:03:16 The fact that only 35 riders or something make it in the first group says enough, I think on a stage one of a grand tour. Um, and it was clear that. Patterson was, uh, going for the stage and his team was reeling around him, uh, amazingly. Um, they were super strong during the whole stage, especially on the last climb, uh, Patterson was actually in second and third position all the time. Uh, Chicona did a great job. Carlos Verona did a great job on that last climb. And then, Matthias Vácek, amazing lead out, super strong rider.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And so Pedersen was one of the big favorites. He won fair and square. So I think that's about it. And then, yeah, Van Aert was up there, finished his second, comes back. It was not photo finish, but at least he was contesting the sprint together with Pedersen. His team really believed in him also. And I was surprised to see yesterday in his interview at the presentation of the Giro, that he revealed that he had been sick in the week leading up to the Giro and that he was not very confident and he had doubts about what his condition would be. So I think finishing second for Van Aert in today's stage is definitely a good thing for his morale.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I mean, he is, I think he's not 100%. We could see that on that last climb. He had to go back a few places, almost got dropped. You know, normally a guy like Van Aert would usually stay at least in the same position as Max Pedersen on a client like this. He couldn't do that today, but didn't get dropped or made it back. So I think that's definitely good for the next stages because usually, if one art gets better in a ground tour. But hey, Matt Peterson deserved the winner first, the pink jersey wearer. And yeah, other than that, it's obviously a shame that a guy like Michael Landa crashes
Starting point is 00:05:26 and is straight away out of the race. Didn't look good. He was carried away on the stretcher and with a collar on. I mean, of course it's for precaution. I don't really... I have no information yet about what the consequences of the crash are, but crashing out in a big tour, in a grand tour on day one is the worst that you can imagine. So hopefully he's okay. Are you sure? Are you so crashed in the middle of the stage? Doesn't seem like he hurt himself, but it's never good if you crash. So that could be, that could have an impact tomorrow on the time trial. And then Jay Vine, unfortunately, crashed again, also in the same crash there as Mika Landa. There was not much you could do.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I think Landa crashed, crashed the first of the four or five guys that were on the floor. And then little groups that came afterwards also crashed. So it was a really dangerous corner. also crashed. So it was a really dangerous corner. Yeah, unfortunately, those things happen and it's a bummer for Lambda, especially also for the team, because he was the leader of the team of Sudal Quickstep. I don't think they have any other or not big ambitions for other riders. So now they would have to, they'd have to, if you lose your leader on day one, it can be a long three weeks for a team very long. Yeah, that has got to be incredibly demoralizing. I mean, it's, it's a bummer because he would have, he maybe wouldn't have won, wouldn't have podiumed perhaps,
Starting point is 00:06:58 but he would have put it all out there. Like he has nothing to lose. So he would have been a big animator, big blow to UAE. We don't really know how Jay Vine is, but they lose it. They lose a GC card right there. Like he has nothing to lose. So he would have been a big animator. Big blow to UAE. Like we don't really know how J Vine is, but they lose it. They lose a GC card right there. They potentially lose a rider that could do a lot of work. But like on the, on the stage when probably the right rider one, I mean, that was such a dominant display from little Trek just having, and I was really impressed with not only did they have riders with Pedersen, like the whole time on the climbs and then into the finish. They'd like big riders, like big riders that could perform a lead out. Like while Vinart had teammates with them in that finale, but it was Simon Yates.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Like Simon Yates isn't going to help you with that lead out there. It just little track. I couldn't believe like Chikone putting in a lot of good work. They just looked like a team firing on all cylinders. Yeah. I can continuing that spring momentum. Mads Pedersen maybe not been sprinting the best of his career in this spring, but looked pretty fast today.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And I'm sure the hardness of the race helped just made everyone else so tired. As you say, yeah, Van Aert, that's a good sign. If he's sick and even Van Aert like at his best, like think of the Vuelta last year, he's third on the first day, second on the second day starts winning on the third day. So this, this is in line with his kind of how the rhythm of his career so far in these grand tours where he comes in, looks good, maybe doesn't win right away. And then he, he's like a computer. He's like solves these problems or he just gets better as the race goes on.
Starting point is 00:08:22 So I mean, there was tears from my, my son was just despondent after this stage. Oh yeah. Because he's a huge, he's a huge welcome. Right. He was a problem, but I was trying to explain to him like, Oh, it actually is not, not the worst thing. And interesting little GC battle here because Patterson takes the lead 10 second time bonus, wow. Second with a six second time bonus. So he's four seconds back going into the TT tomorrow. It's only 13 K. lead 10 second time bonus. Wow. Second with a six second time bonus. So he's four seconds back going into the TT tomorrow. It's only 13 K. So those guys could have a little pink Jersey battle. Um,
Starting point is 00:08:52 while it might be in pink, maybe Matt's Pederson holds it or one of the guys behind, it would have to be someone in that lead group. Right? So one, eight, so Primoz Roglic and then a quick note on the GC before we move on time and Arendsman for the set, what the second zero in a row just caught out on a, I mean, if I was, you know, if Mattias Vychek is there, probably a GC contender should be able to stay there on those climbs. But I mean, I, we've, we've, we did this race, Johan, we would say, wow,
Starting point is 00:09:18 this is really hard on the first day of a grand tour. Like I can kind of understand how you could be caught out, but you probably, if you want to win the race, you probably have to be prepared on stage one. That's the way these grand tours. Yeah. Yeah. You can hardly say that Arnsman is going to win the Giro. He's a top five contender at most, most likely between fifth and 10th. I think he did. I mean, he did great last year and he,
Starting point is 00:09:43 he lost a lot of time on stage one, a lot more time than today. We also don't know if he got caught behind a crash or not, right? We don't know that. Same for Derek G. I've read somewhere that Derek G was caught behind one of his teammates, Frigo. I think Frigo crashed and Derek G was caught behind Derek G and Aritz Man lose considerable time already in stage one. So
Starting point is 00:10:06 that's definitely not the way to start, but it's far from over. Of course, I think Arndt Man, if Arndt Man compares to last year, I think he's like two minutes ahead of, it loses a minute or something, but he's two minutes ahead of last year's time loss. So not all is lost. It's three weeks. I think it was just real, it was experience kind of ruled the day because even the I used to crash, he was pretty far back when he crashed and like, you know, Roglic was never far back. Poglic was right there all day.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Like he's seen this all, he knows what to avoid. Yeah. And then also Spencer, you know, I mean, like, you know, in, in, in, uh, Arnsman's case, you know, I don't know if that's the case, but I have the impression that some riders have this problem. They start a grand tour or any stage race and the first day or the first two days, they're just not there. Nothing seems to work. Everything goes difficult.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And then after three, four days, they start to get into the rhythm. This could be the problem that the audience has. It's been two times in a row now. So maybe he's one of those guys who just takes longer to, and if the first day is already a challenging day, some guys just need two, three days to get into the rhythm. That's maybe his problem. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah. Anyway, at the, Arnzman was dropped in the climb, but like, at least with their G, it just, it was so fast. Arnzman was dropped on the climb. Okay. I didn't see that. Like right near the top. I was just looking't see that. Like right near the top. I was just looking at the video of it right before it recorded.
Starting point is 00:11:47 But then like, but G, you can tell it's so fast over the top, it just gets away from you. Like if you're sitting too far back, it's just your drop before you even know what's going on. And also Spencer, listen, I mean, if you're a GC contender, you can't be too far back on the top of the last time. If you're too far back, it's because the first day you don't have the legs, you can't be too far back on the, on the top of the last time. If you're, if you're too far back is because the first day you don't have the legs, you're suffering.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Otherwise you're in front, right? You're in the top 20 and not in the top 40, not in 40th place. Well, speaking of dropping back on that climb, I'm getting our pre-show and our show confused, but Van Aert had to drop back like Patterson almost seemed like he never left the top three wheels in that climb. Van Aert did have to drop back and work his way back up. So you could see right there,
Starting point is 00:12:32 it makes sense if he's talking about being sick on antibiotics, but Pedersen probably just a little bit fitter today and is why he won in that sprint. And then we should mention Red Bull, Bora, on that final climb, you noticed that they were right there. They were even pulling like when those GC riders were crashing at the back, Red Bull's upfront pulling, keeping Roglic out of trouble. And then someone you didn't see up there in the front of the climb was,
Starting point is 00:12:57 was UAE. Like when, when Pagatra is not at the race, they are just all over the place. Like, good luck, Guana Yusso. Good luck navigating this climb in the finale? Because there's not going to be anybody with you. It's just, you know, who knows how this is going to play out later, but it did seem right there. Like that was a significant tell of Red Bull's come into this really focused UAE does not have the Pogacar shine at the moment because he's not here. And it could be a messier race than we're used to seeing with him at the race. Yeah, yeah, I think the contrast was remarkable. As you say, Red Bull was very organized. It looked to me also that Primoz had great legs. He was extremely attentive, especially for the first stage. Sometimes a little bit too much in the front, I would say, for a GC contender.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And yeah, UAE was just disorganized. Never saw them as a unit. I don't know if that's because Ayuso is not good at positioning or, as you say, if Pogacar is there, they're a well-oiled machine. say if Pogacar is there, they're a well-oiled machine. And without him, they're all over the place. So that's obviously a concern. I'm not expecting that that's going to repeat itself. I mean, once the race gets into harder terrain, they're automatically going to be in the front with the strength they have. But yeah, Red Bull looked really good as a team. Um, yeah, I was, I was, I was really pleased to see that. Speaking of well-oiled machines, pretty much Roglic. You said you heard an interview with them where you said he had not reconned
Starting point is 00:14:36 any of this race. He does know the route basically. Well, he does know the route of course, but I did see an interview where he specifically said that he hadn't really conned any of the stages, any of the clients. He said, you know, I'll see when we get there, I'll study the book. Obviously, you know, there's enough information out there and then, you know, they all have fellow viewer and details about every single part of the course. But I found it remarkable to know that the top favorite of the tour of Italy hasn't recounted any of the stages. Obviously, he has given priority to his training and his preparation at altitude, I guess,
Starting point is 00:15:22 over going over to Italy and previewing some of the stages. But I was surprised to see that, you know, maybe the team has reconned everything and they will pass him on the information, but there's nothing that replaces riding the climbs, especially the ones you don't know. For example, you know, I mean, if it's a stage 20 quality finesse, has he done the finesse? You think you need to know that line? I mean, listen, if you, if you're, if you're the favorite, you need to know that claim. I mean, maybe just knows that it ends in one of the stages ends in Slovenia.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And he thought I've got this. I know this route. I am looking at stage 20 and I would, yeah, I would probably want to know that those climbs before I did that. They'll, they'll, they'll preview it on video and they'll watch, you know, other, other races I have passed that when Froome won, it's been plenty of times that Giro has been has gone over it, but this is a beast of a climb.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I mean, supposing that they will go over it, right? Because the, the, the reports are there, there was snow on top. Um, we'll see when we get there in three weeks, what happens. Yeah, it's going to be, yeah, it will not be clearly communicated, whatever they decide to do, but just a few other GC notes before we move on a writer that did that had a good day flying under the radar. So two writers, I'd say Richard Carapaz, seventh on the stage. That's impressive. And then Jay Hindley in there for Red Bull Bora.
Starting point is 00:17:00 So on the same time as Primoz Roglic, Danny Martinez gets dropped. So we kind of are seeing the early hierarchy in that team and Egan Bernal in that front group as well. So those. You would expect them to be there, right? I mean, if, if Egan Bernal and Hindley are not there, we would be saying, okay, they're at the same level as Derek G and Arnstman. And in my opinion, they're, they're above those guys. I, the worst. By the way, I don't know if you saw a little, Derek G and Arne Spahn. And in my opinion, they're above those guys. By the way, I don't know if you saw, a little detail for the viewers.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Great design of the Colombian Championship, Champions Jersey for Egan Bernal. New design. And if the people who have been following cycling for a long time, it's a reminder to the mid eighties, Cafe de Colombia, that the Colombian team was sponsored by Cafe de Colombia. And there was this these mountains, the colors of Colombia and it's like a, it's a mountain pattern and that's on the New Jersey of
Starting point is 00:18:05 Egan Bernal. So a great detail, um, for the Colombian fans. I did not know that. I'm looking at that now. That makes a lot of sense now that you mentioned it. Um, one, oh, also someone else I forgot to mention Antonio Tiberi dropped out of tour of the Alps sick, I believe. And then looked quite good today. Bob Rainer Victoria's was on the front foot foot. That's someone to keep an eye on. But I kind of want to talk about where our picks went wrong. He kind of had a bad day. I picked Van Aert.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I picked him because he was half the price of Pedersen. So I still feel okay about that. Obviously Pedersen would have been the right pick. You're picked Tom Pidcock. I mean, we don't want to dwell too much on this, but these riders he was beaten by, and I was surprised how downbeat he was before the stage. He's like, no, You're picked Tom Pidcock. I mean, we don't want to dwell too much on this, but these riders he was beaten by, and I was surprised how downbeat he was before the stage. He's like, no, I can't win this stage. Um, just give me too many fast people there. But I remember him being quite a fast sprinter. Like, did he not win Amstel gold?
Starting point is 00:18:59 Listen, he finished fifth, no, he finished fifth, but okay. Well, that's pretty good, man. I mean, you're beaten by, listen, our Luis Orlar is a sprinter. He has one bunch of sprints, not at the level of Pedersen and Van Aert, but he is a sprinter. Then the other guy, I don't mean, he's 22 years old, the Italian guy of Inter Marché.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I don't know his qualities, but he must be a fast sprinter too. So I mean, fifth, I mean, Pitcock's not a sprinter, right? I mean, hard stage like that. He's fast in like little groups of, you know, five, six, seven people. If there's 30, 40 people together, I think fifth place is pretty good for Pitcock. I mean, I think fifth place is pretty good for pit. I mean, I think you're probably reading a bit too much in it. And I think fifth was about as good as you could get to me. Not one place better would have been fourth, but the first three are just way faster than pit.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I guess it's all contract dependent. Like if the guy in fourth was making 5 million pounds a year, you would say, maybe not a great result, but if he's making what he's making, it's a great result. So that's where it gets a little complicated with pitcock. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah. And then we didn't talk about, uh, the sprint and then what Von Art and where it went wrong, Spencer, I think, you know, when art, uh, you know, he seconds was up there with Peterson. I think where it went wrong was in just before the last corner where he, and he was at the wheel of the track train and, uh, let's himself push away by, uh, the Venezuelan guy, Olar from Movistar. Um, it was on his wheel.
Starting point is 00:20:42 So if, if, if an art fight and stay on better since we'll, he maybe would have had a chance. Now, uh, the way it was, and the, the extreme fast lead out of Vacek, um, you know, he had to come across all our, and then didn't have a chance. But, uh, but yeah, I think that that went wrong for one hour. He lost position. He was on better since reel and lost that wheel. Should he have gone earlier or just went when he could go? Yeah, probably not.
Starting point is 00:21:12 There was, it was, it was far. I mean, there was, you know, when they took the, the corner, it was 500 meters to go, uh, super fast speed of Vacek. There was no, there was no way, there was no way you could go earlier. Um, he did what he could, but he was, he was in the wrong position. He, he should have been on Pedersen's wheel. Definitely shows you why it's helpful to have like a super strong team with lead outriders there. Like Pedersen didn't have to deal with any of that.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Like I didn't even know there was a fight going on behind him. Yeah, no, it was the speed was super, super high. And you know, he just, you know, he had, he didn't have to fight for position and he just had to follow the wheel of his teammate. Yeah, this is crazy. The people are, you know, I don't want to be a wow defender, but people are talking about this guy like he's washed up. This is his last six races, second, fourth, second, fourth, fourth, second,
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Starting point is 00:26:03 still in the capital, Tirana, way bigger town than I thought it was. I was shocked at how big of a city that is. Half the country must live in this city. It's only 13.7 kilometers. It's a city circuit, so slightly technical, a lot of turns. The pink jersey's on the line. There's I guess like a bubbling beneath the surface GC battle. Like if you're
Starting point is 00:26:25 a GC rider, you don't want to lose time. I'll list off the odds in Unibet and then I'm quite curious to think who you, quite curious to hear who you think is going to win. So Josh Charlie is a favorite on Ineos plus 125. Wout Van Aert plus 375. Primoz Roglic plus 550. Juana Iuso plus 1000. Mateusz Faj 1,200, Brandon McNulty who won the opening time trial at the Vuelta last year, plus 1,600, Mads Pedersen plus 1,800, J. Vine plus 2,000. And it goes on and on, but I think the winner will come from that group.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Who do you think is gonna win this, Johan? Yeah, well, Tarling is the favorite. He is of course a pure time trial specialist. There's a little climb in the middle. Doesn't look like much, but on a short course like this, a 1.7 kilometer climb, that kind of breaks the rhythm for the pure specialists. Although it's only 5-6%, but still it's not the same as completely flat. So Darling, I think it's kind of to be expected that he got dropped. I mean, if there's only 35 riders together and he didn't go for the...
Starting point is 00:27:38 I mean, it was going to be difficult for him to go for the stage win. So we don't know if he really got dropped because he was extremely on the limit. He was on the limit. That's for sure. We don't know how deep he wanted to go. Right. So I still think he's the favorite, but I'm going to go for Mattias Vacek tomorrow. He can do this. He did a great time trial last year in the Vuelta, which was a similar distance, I think. Maybe a bit shorter, I don't know. Maybe 12 kilometers or 11 kilometers. But he finished second at like one or two seconds of Brandon McNulty. And today, man, he was in great shape. He was never in problems on those climbs. Did a out. Uh, I'm going to pick him to win the time trial tomorrow at a plus 1200. I love that pick plus 1200.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I agree. Tarline plus the thing that really bothers me about that he's priced. So is such a favorite plus one 25 would be a like, you know, yes for Phillips and tour to France bunch sprint. What is Josh Tarline shown us that we would think he's never won a grand tour stage. He was actually, he was the heavy favorite for the Volta TT where Vycek finished second and McNulty won last year and he underperformed. I just don't, I would not feel comfortable betting them at that price.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Vycek plus 1200, he 1200, he could easily win this. This is gonna be all about form, all about confidence. It might be a mistake, especially at plus 375. I thought immediately after the stage finished, stage one, I thought, well, Vinart's winning stage two, and he's gonna be in pink. But I could be biased, but plus 375, I would go, Vinart, I do think biased, but plus three 75, I would go.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Then art. I do think if I check it plus 1200, it's quite interesting. Who do you think is going to be in pink tomorrow? After the stage, not at the start of the stage. I think what's on art, love on art has a good chance. He's well, he's only six seconds ahead of everybody else of all the other favorites. So let's look at some of the fastest. I mean, you know, I think, I think his big, his big rivals for pink tomorrow or, or are
Starting point is 00:30:00 you so and then Roglic. Yeah. They'll do a great time trial. By the way, darling did win a time trial this week, this year. Uh, the first, uh, the time trial in the UAE tour. Um, but anyway that's already a few months ago. Uh, was in, in, was it in January or beginning of February? February pancake flat. Um, 56, 56.6 gain hour. Holy
Starting point is 00:30:25 smokes. I mean, he's a good, he's a good time. I don't discard him to win the time trial tomorrow, honestly, even if he wasn't there in today's stage. Uh, but I think Vácek for me, it's, it's a good choice because he's so well priced. Um, Primos and, and, and I also will be up there. There are candidates to win the time trial. Um, so yeah, I think, I think from what I've seen today, I
Starting point is 00:31:00 think probably in pink tomorrow is this pretty much Rob. Interesting. I think probably in pink tomorrow is Primoz Roglic. Interesting. I mean, this is like opens up another conversation too. So Roglic is plus 550, Aiuso is plus 1000. Is one of those guys win the stage? I mean- Could be, could be, could be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yeah. But the problem, I mean, you're right, there's a climb and it's a little harder actually than I thought it was. It's like over a kilometer at, I think it's one and a half kilometer at 5% average. So, you know, it's not, it's not extremely hard, but it's enough to break the rhythm of the pure time trial special. So yeah. And Primos is great at that. And those kinds of climbs in time trials. And Ayuso is by the way too.
Starting point is 00:31:50 So I don't know really who's going to be the best of the two because Ayuso did great in, in Tirino time trial. No, he was, was he second? He won it in 2024 and then he must've been second this year, right? If he won that overall, but I'll check right now. And that's a flat one. He was second. Yeah. Yeah. How far behind Ghana?
Starting point is 00:32:16 That doesn't help. He was 22 seconds behind Ghana in a kilometer time trial. Yeah, but still, yeah, it's, it's, you know, he was the best of the rest. Ghana's not here anyway. So Ghana would win this by the way, if he was here. Um, yeah, yeah, that's actually, this is one of the trickiest time trials. I think I ever recalled trying to predict because you have these two lighter GC guys and like, I wouldn't be shocked at all if we're sitting here tomorrow and one of you,
Starting point is 00:32:44 so just smokes the time trial and is in the lead and we're like wow we should have seen that coming plus 1000 that was the easy pick I also wouldn't be shocked if Froglets did it I also wouldn't be shocked if we're sitting here saying well that was always way too short for these GC guys they didn't prepare for an explosive it's gonna be like a 15 16 minute maybe even less maybe 13 minute effort obviously the more more powerful, well, Venard won this time trial. So rarely do you get something like this and then they've set that up. Well, I think this foreign start, I'm already a fan of it with the battle for
Starting point is 00:33:15 the pain. Beautiful scenery, beautiful scenery and really nice clients. Yeah. Yeah. Shocking. Yeah. Couldn't believe it. I was actually at dinner the other night with a couple that is going to hike in Albania and I didn't know Albania had mountains until that dinner.
Starting point is 00:33:29 So I'm glad I had dinner with them before this Giro d'Italia. But I would go with Fennart and then as a wild card, if it's still priced better than your favorite, why don't you do so? I think would be my wild card at plus 1000. Okay. Who would you do for if you had at plus 1000. Okay. Who would you do for if you had to pick a wild card, who would you, so I said, what check and then wild card. Uh, I mean, I want to say Primos. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, your double of plus five 50 plus 1200. That's, that's pretty good. You can bet on both
Starting point is 00:34:02 of them and make quite a bit of money if one of them won. Any other thoughts, Johan, before we take off? That's it, man. I just hope that the guys who crashed, and especially Mikel Landa didn't look good. I hope he's okay. And that, you know, at least he can recover for the Tour de France. I know. Yeah. I mean, you rarely see someone crash first day of a grand tour and just there was like no, no chance that he was getting up to continue the race. It looks really bad straight away. You know, it was, it was really, you know, like there was the curb and then there was the, the,
Starting point is 00:34:35 the light post, which I think he hit. And then there was, he went like a little staircase. So yeah, that, um, yeah, that was like three, three factors that, you know, contributed to his, his bad luck and his bad, uh, back rash. All right. Well, we hope he's okay. And we will be back tomorrow to break down the stage and then predict stage three. Okay. See you tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:35:01 See you.

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