THEMOVE - How Can Visma Pressure UAE & Pogačar at This Tour? | Tour de France Stage 3 | THEMOVE

Episode Date: July 6, 2026

Lance, Johan, George, Sir Bradley and Spencer Martin (aka The Professor) break down Stage 3 of the 2026 Tour de France and discuss how UAE and Tadej Pogačar's show of force highlights just how much the sport has changed in the last few years. They debate if the GC is already over, and how Visma could even begin to potentially challenge Pogačar. They also take a few live on-air quesitons from listeners, preview Stage 4 and answer yesterday's Ventum trivia before giving out a new trivia question. Become a WEDŪ Member Today to Unlock VIP Access & Benefits: https://access.wedu.team Roka: The Move listeners get 20% off. Just go to https://ROKA.com and enter code THEMOVE at checkout.  David Protein: David is offering our listeners a special deal: buy 4 cartons and get the 5th free when you go to https://davidprotein.com/THEMOVE Honey Stinger: Use code THEMOVE25 for 25% off at https://Honeystinger.com/THEMOVE25 Ventum: Use code TheMove10 for 10% off anything at: https://ventumracing.com/ Vandoit: Visit https://Vandoit.com and mention The Move to receive up to $5,000 Tour de France savings.  

Ford out of our seven Americans have really have had a significant impact. We saw Quinn Simmons up there today. Jurgensen, I mean, the ride, he's not in the last three stages. John Quinn was up there yesterday. And Brandon McNulty, you know, the ride of the day for us yesterday as well. So four of out of our seven Americans are having a great ride at tour so far. All right. Well, good morning, everybody.

Welcome back to the Move podcast. I'm Lance Armstrong, joined by Sir Bradley Wiggins, Mr. George Hennepi and the professor, Spencer Martin. And we are going to talk about stage three, which is you picked it, Sir Bradley. I mean, you picked, I think everybody on this desk and the professor himself really thought this was a perfect breakaway day. You called it yesterday, said no. And you saw the team. UAE just, I was sort of, why are they riding?

Sir, brother, they want to win the stage. And that's exactly what happened. Yeah. Yeah. But no, go ahead. Because I keep forgetting things. But you... Yeah, no, I mean, it just seems like the norm now in the modern-day cycling,

the way the Tour de France is ridden, which is very different to our time and your time. Yeah. And we were talking about it, wouldn't we spend some weather? You know, it seems to be the way that Taday wants to accumulate as much time now in the first part of the race when possible. And so he could take his foot off the gas and less pressure in that third week. That's the way it's looking that it's going to pan out the same as last year.

Not only that. We're seeing the big teams like Visma and the Giro. UAE here, they're not, they're not conserving energy. They're not conserving their riders energy more. They see if they have a chance to win the stage, we're going to go for it. I don't remember Team Sky ever racing like that or our team back in the day. It's like third stage of the Tour to France three weeks to go. Yeah.

We would never have done that. Yeah. And I want to talk more about that because it is a, it's just a fundamental shift on the way the tour is approached and race. But I don't want to leave out our friend Alain. We could never leave out Alain. Stage 3. What did we do? Stage 3, from granoye to Les Angles.

Yes. From granoye to Les Angles. And now we're getting there. Okay. We're back in France. Back in France. It feels good to be back. Well, in the French guide, it's just better.

Yeah. The stage today went through a bunch of our old training grounds, like Vic, like right outside of Gerona. Yeah, they went through the problem. You know, at the bottom of the profile, I always tells you the problem. It went through, I guess, sort of the, us Americans would think of it almost as a county. Yeah.

But yeah, right in the old neighborhood. But yeah, look, we've said this, I don't know, seemingly dozens of times, that whatever the playbook was in our generation, and in our generation, Sir Bradley, is a little different, is, you know, maybe half a generation removed from yours. whatever we did or thought of how you approach a race and you budget effort and allocate effort over the course of three weeks, how you try to distribute that within a team, I think we just have to kind of throw that out. I mean, this is different. I was telling Johann yesterday, I was like, imagine what you think the most logical course of action for the day is and just reverse it. And that's what's going to happen. And that's what happened today. Did you guys noticed though, Mateo Jorgensen was trying to get an early move.

Do you think that was a bit of a provocation that UAE said, okay, you want to put Mateo up there and F with us, watch this. I kind of wonder if that's what happened. I mean, I wouldn't put it past Teddy. He's a mean guy on a bike. He is. He's got an edge. Yeah.

We saw that last year play out on, you know, the Mue de Pretan in that stage. Do you remember when there was a bit of sort of tension in the air afterwards in the interviews and, you know, that was all over a misty. Musette, if you remember at the time, or a feet, a bottle. Yep. Yep. But Tadda, yeah, when he gets it on him, you know, he's a different animal on the bike to off the bike. Also, the year of Jorgensen almost won the mountaintop finish. Yeah.

They seemingly decided to just chase him down last minute. Yeah. Probably try ones to stage. Well, there's no love loss here. I mean, and Jorgensen's is outspoken. I mean, he's not afraid to speak his mind. There's been some back and forth in the press. You see some back and forth in the Peloton sometimes.

which I love that. I mean, all sports need that, right? I mean, you see that in the World Cup going on. Yeah. Congratulations, by the way. Thank you. The side of all of this is, I mean, four out of our seven Americans have really have had a significant impact.

We saw Quinn Simmons up there today. Jorgensen, I mean, the ride, he's not in the last three stages. Sean Quinn was up there yesterday. And Brandon McNulty, you know, the ride of the day for us yesterday as well. So four of out of our seven Americans are having a great ride at tour so far. Tough stages. I mean,

this is stage three. It was 104 degrees Fahrenheit. Yeah. It was a 196K long. 3,000, it was over 12,000 feet of climbing, 3,000 meters vert. 70 kilometers before the breakway went away. That's just, that's, you know, that's. And then gets real.

And then gets real. And there was a crash right at the beginning with like took down Matthew Rickettello, Bruno Amarrived from Visma. Boss. And then, you know, to buy his father. who was riding amazing, and then they're like dangling 18 minutes back. Like that, that must be miserable. Poor Matthew.

Well, it's, I mean, UAE is just on another level. I mean, I think as we just acknowledged with them that they're just going to ride the race the way they ride it, that doesn't mean that everybody is going to allocate energy over, you saw. I mean, there were bodies everywhere. There was, they were down to 40 guys the last close to an hour. This is day three. Day three. Yeah.

And it's, and it's, you know, projected to continue to be hot. This is. Taday Pogachar, I mean, you kind of run out of superlatives. This was his 22nd stage win in the Tour de France. Spencer, how many, and he does go, it's worth noting, he is on the same time as Yonith Fingegaard. But he takes yellow. We looked that up.

Apparently, it's based it. They don't go down to 10th of a second or 100th of a second. they just base it on the best finish on the most recently completed stage. I think it's like cumulative stage finishes, but even that's tied. Okay. So then tiebreaker from there is that. Is the most recent stage finish, which was today? Yeah.

Yeah. Is he bummed about that? Because now he has to stick around and do the yellow jersey. He didn't say that in his post-race interview. Yeah. He said he was excited to be in the old jersey. With it comes a lot, a lot of extra time. You're going to postpone your evening.

I guess it depends on some of the transfers or just how efficient things are, but you're going to postpone your evening 45 to 60 minutes, I would think. He's used to that, though. Yeah, he was a great clip of him on the home train of warming down after yesterday's stage, playing to the Mexican crowd with the flag and stuff. He's great.

He's in such, I mean, he seems so relaxed. But did you see the, so you had Pagotcha, he's messing around with the fans, he's got a Mexican flag, and then Jonas, boom, in 95 mask on, right after the stage. Looks kind of miserable, if I'm going to be honest. Like, it's just an interesting contrast between them. Tomorrow's yellow jersey for them.

Do we have any idea for how many days? I mean, we just said, so it's 22nd stage win. I mean, he's, look, I mean, Cab has 35. We covered that two years ago very well, or last year. or whenever that was. But Pogi just kind of clicks them off. Like there's a world where you say, we're going to get another five here.

Summit finishes this year. How many of them's you going to win? As many as he wants. I think he's going to win six summit finishes. Okay. So anyways, there's a world where we're not that far from that. Six total.

Six total. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. There's a world by the end of next year's tool. Right. And we're going to be in the bullpap.

That's right. Yeah. That's right. I think it's a 160th day. in yellow. In yellow. Say that one more time. 160 yellow jersey.

1-60? I believe so because he has 207 total Grand Tour Leader Jersey days. Wow. And 47 of them are outside the tour. Wow. Yeah. That's quite a stat.

I mean, it was clear they had one goal in mind today was to win the stage. And I think the yellow jersey was a byproduct of that. But we saw what midway through, they decided to take over the work in the front when the breakaway of 18 guys, a very strong breakaway. If a breakaway goes at 70,

into a 200k race, you know that's not a panic cooking breakaway. That's like a really strong breakaway. Breakaway specialists are up there. Very hard to control that. Visma was keeping them to two minutes or two minutes plus. And then they just took over with the clear goal of winning the stage. Sorry, guys. That's total leaders jerseys, not yellow.

So yellow is less than that, obviously. Yellow is, I believe. Where do you find this stuff? I believe it's his 50th day in yellow. Okay, because 160. That would be like 26 average a year. year. So not possible. All right. So, well, nonetheless, 55th, about 22 of those, 22 stage wins. Yeah, so 75 total G.C. days, like leading a G.C. race with 20 of them at the

Vuelta. Sorry, 20 of them at the Gero, which is kind of crazy to think about it because he did one Gero to tell you, and he is 20 zero leaders. Days in the Leader's Jersey. Wow. Let's talk about the move of the day. So Bradley, what do you, the move of the day? And by the way, folks, just the move of the day doesn't have to be a stage win. It doesn't doesn't have to be an attack from a breakaway. It's just sort of a, I guess, just a general impression of who was, with some performance that stood out outside of, I mean, we obviously can't keep talking about Pogatara,

but outside of some performance like his to win the stage. Well, mine has to go to Del Toro today. I mean, he rode at least 800 meters on the front on that last climb, leading out Taday, the damage he was doing while setting that pace, and still finished ninth, four seconds, behind today. Yeah. Yeah, that means he probably could have won the stage as well.

I got to go back to my four Americans that have performed really well so far. Sepp Cuss was also up there today. Yeah. Leading out with about 1,500 meters to go. So that's five out of seven Americans that have in a huge impact on this race. But I think Sepp and Mateo looked super strong today. I was proud to see them and Quinn Simmons being up there with less than 2K to go leading out their captains. I'm going to zag here.

Alex Bonon, the last man standing from breakway. He looked miserable. He's a tough guy, really good rider, salted up, cramping on the bike. I mean, that's pretty impressive to be out there. At some point, did they have to the teams, guys, the question for all of you guys. Does they start getting pissed off? Like, this is a typical breakaway day. Like, they're going to make it.

So they starting to be like, is there, is they going to start creating more and more enemies because they're just keep trying to win everything out there? Or does it even matter? I think they've hit their critical mass. I can't see anyone. I don't think they'll create enemies at all. I think there's so much respect for them in the palazone. I think that's right.

People are in awe of them. And in Pogachar, and you can even see Deltoro has sort of adopted this jovial, at least from just sort of sitting on the couch here in Colorado. But he's political in a good way. But I don't know. We'll see tomorrow. I think they'll start. We'll preview tomorrow stage later.

I think they'll start to feed the breakaway some chances. Yeah. Yeah. All right, we'll let you guys have some. I know. You came all this way. Got to come and just chum it a little bit. I'm going to go with Diltoro too.

It's interesting watching. And if you watch sort of the live commentary, you know, people say, hey, they're sitting up here. You know, so-and-so is in perfect position. Buddy, there's nobody. It didn't matter. I mean, there was nobody. There was only one guy who could accelerate from that.

And it was Bogachar. I mean, the pace that Del Toro is able to do. And again, we're only three days in, but this morale is already, they're looking around going, what, what you got? Yeah. I mean, they are firing on all cylinders. Three days in. Yeah.

Jonas is still in a good position. I don't think he's that happy about being essentially ridden off the wheel the last two days on a relatively short mountaintop finish. But he's still there, tied for yellow, and his team looks really good. So it's still a battle going on. What he said yesterday with that circuit and with that finish, he acknowledged that while he wasn't able to necessarily follow the wheel, that that wasn't a circuit or a type of finish that suits him.

He could make the same argument. I agree. Same argument today. And I don't disagree with that. I mean, I think he'd give the guy an hour-long climb, you know, halfway, 2.30. through this tour of France. Yeah, those are different. So it's where nobody's discounting him.

Is he too light? Like if he's really 57 kilos. Well, if it's too light, then that would explain sort of why he can't follow that initial acceleration by Pokachar, which is probably somewhere over 1,200 watts on a final of a mountaintop finish. So if you're that light, you can't produce that amount of wattage, which potentially could mean he's faster on the one hour. climbs.

Yeah, I guess we'll see. Do you think the same applies to Remko as to why he's not been quiet? I think so too. And Remko was a bit further behind today. I think it was like ninth place. He looked fine up until then. But yeah, who knows? It could be that they're just all in on these.

That real top end. When these guys like Del Toro and Pagotra are bigger than the other GC contenders, so it's less load on them to get into the climb in position. Like they're not riding as close to the threshold as Remco and Jonas because they're so light. They got, they're like are maxing out just to get to the. base of the climb versus these bigger bigger they're like 64 kilos guys it's less they can get to the

front easier that just depends on your teammates and how good you are um and navigating your way around the peloton I think all the guys you just mentioned are really good so I'm not sure that they're spending more energy than pogacharo or del Toro especially in a group of 30 to 40 guys which are what we were looking at today at the final not very stressful all mountain guys is not like going into the Arrnberg Forrest or the Kambaburg or Quaremont in Flanders, it's different. I think they pretty much got there on the same terms. But how much lower do you think the threshold of Jonas is than Bagotra could be 50 watts or more? On the flats?

Yeah. Like, especially even on the bottom of a climb like today, Remko and Jonas could be over their threshold because their thresholds so much lower than those guys. And those guys, they have to do less to ride as fast because they're bigger. Again, I mean, it's not like they're T-T into it. It's a lot of you. It's very specific. It's very specific.

Yeah, you're following the wheels. Yeah. You know what to move up. Great. You have a teammate that you trust more than other teammates. It's just, there's a lot of variables that go on as opposed to just like who's spending more watts in the final 5K to the bottom of the climb. Richard Carapass.

I had a decent ride. I mean, we, we have, I mean, we have to give him his props. Yeah, he looked great. You know, we thought he was one of the days. Yeah, the team's coming out really happy today. Mountain Jersey, breakaway, the hardest breakaway. Yeah, got third on the stage. Paul Seishas looked good.

Rimco was there. Lipowitz was there. Well, I looked it up. Lipowitz, last night I went back to last year. Lipowitz lost two minutes of the first four stages. So, and finished third at the end. So this is a better start to the tour for Lipowitz in last year. Yeah.

Speaking of that team, we spent a lot of time last tour talking about Ben Healy, who had a tremendous race finish top 10, and it was seemingly in every breakaway, in every conversation, tough day. That's the weird thing. That's the thing about these days. Like you can just have a bad day. Yeah. Like today was his bad day.

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I know what you're going to say. I mean, I feel, I feel my, my, my soulmate here, Sir Bradley. I feel it. I mean, this is just, we're, this is the punch in the nose that all the other, are you feeling this? What's that? The Pogachar factor. Yeah, yeah, I do. I kind of feel like, um, this is what we're going to be talking about for the next three weeks.

Okay. What, what would prevent that? what would prevent... What are they... Yeah. I think, like we said last year, Vizma are going to have to rethink their strategy a little bit compared to last year because they've tried, and how many tours now, to sit in second place on G.C. And hope that something happens to Pagachar. I mean, we've said it all the time.

But what can you do against Pagcha? Unless he has an injury or a crash or illness, there's not much you can do against this guy. Well, I know we're only in day three. Yeah. I know. I know. This is, we're talking about like he's just riding, and I agree with you, it's looking that way.

But at the same time, what we have seen the last two years is Vizma going on the offensive, trying to make it harder. That's what they need to do more. Well, I don't know about that. I'm actually kind of liking that. Now, UAE is on the offensive. They're going for the wins. They're going for the yellow jersey early.

And Visma is getting to essentially sit back a little bit more than they have in the last two years. Maybe that's going to make it a bit more of a dynamic, exciting race as we get past day 10 of this Well, I guess it's targeted sitting back because they are trying to, put a guy that could be a G.C. leader. I mean, that's very unusual for a yellow jersey team to try to put a co-leader into the early breakaway on stage three. It's strange, actually. Not really. I mean, we've done it before back in the day. Just, just, if we get one of our climbers out there, then like, our guys can sit in the whole day. It's not about like, did you have anyone on the

team that would be a legitimate threat to win the Tour de France? I mean, people close to Juergenson's, you know, status, I would say, right? Top 10 in the Tour de France. You don't want to give them. Yeah, you don't want to give them 10 minutes. She wanted to give them five minutes. So then it's going to make the other teams have to work a lot more. So it's actually, and it's like it's so hard that's 104 degrees super aggressive. It's not like it's much easier sitting on sitting back. Like for someone like Jorgensen who's top 10 ride in the world, for him to just flow with breakaway attempts is not that much harder than him sitting 10th, 20th wheel because it's super hard either way.

So you want them to sit back and do less? Yes. Because last year and the last two years, every time they. they made it harder and harder. It made it easier for Pocetra right away. So why not take a different approach and make UAE make it harder? And maybe. Well, that's the way it's panning out.

Yeah, that's the way it's panning out. Maybe they start relying on their guys starting running out of energy, making them more like open to attacks, you know. I don't know. I'm just thinking I like sort of the change right now. There's a question. Do we think, let's just imagine, if we can, that we were in the team meeting for UAE this morning.

Was the plan, let it bring up? breakaway go, keep them at a reasonable distance, obviously bring them back, and Pogochar wins the stage. Was that the plan before the stage started? Probably, right? Yeah, I mean, I would imagine so. Then there you go. I mean, that's, that's, I don't know.

I don't know about that. My guess would be like, if they're within a reasonable gap after halfway mark, then let's go for the stage. But if it's some crazy breakaway, it's got 20 minutes, are we going to, like, put our guys on the line the first 50, that chase us down. I don't know. I think it was like a couple of different plans.

I'm just imagining for a second, right? This is 2005. Johan comes in, the team bus and says, all right, guys, here's what we're going to do. This stage three. There's no way.

We would have gotten up. And walked off the bus. I said, no, no, I am not going to be a part of this. Everybody's going to dislike us and hate us. Yeah.

This is too many. This is what he would have never done that day. No, this is what he would have. He would have wholeheartedly objected to that. Yep. But, yeah. So, but last year, Vizum was very aggressive, and they did force a Pagachar crash.

Because if you remember, they were really pushing into this. And then they set up. Well, okay, they're not going to ride away from him. But what if he would have broken his collarbone? You know, like, they need to introduce as much chaos as possible. I mean, that's the only way, right? Like, you introduce variables that could take Pagachar out of the race. like, I don't, Ebola, anything.

You've got to like start thinking outside the box. Spencer, I don't, I don't think it's that. I think Ebola has to. Maybe that's why he's wearing the mask all the time. Yeah, because Jonas knows that he has. Bradley, that's not. I mean, when you're in control, you're in control. I don't.

Yeah. And these things don't happen. These aren't split-second decisions. They have time to think about these things. They have time to use their horsepower and their experience and their strength. and their confidence. Yeah, and they see how good... His confidence is sky high.

They see how good Del Toro and Pogetra are right now. I mean, Del Toro rode backwards on the course yesterday. This team car rode... That was crazy. He drove right past them, left him inside the road stranded. He was a minute and a half back, came back, and still won the stage. So, yeah, these guys are, like, on a different level.

We were talking a little bit about, before the show, about the time cut. Arna DeLie was getting dangerously close. The time cut was, according to pro-cycling stats, was 48 minutes. He actually made it. by seven minutes. He must have either had a little help towards the... He was solo.

When the cameras go away, I think there might have been a little bit. When those cameras go away, he all of a sudden get a new energy source, but he finished 41 minutes down. So he's, nobody missed the time cut. Wait, are you, I'm seeing that he DNFed. Like I said. Hold on a second.

No, it does. He did DNF. So do we think he missed the, no, because that would be outside of the time. Did not finish. No, I thought he was finished. What happened to his teammates? Did they then have to just motor and finish?

Carry on, yeah. And try to finish this. That's miserable. Can you imagine that? You're back there knowing that you're digging yourself in this huge hole. And then the guy you've been pacing gets in the car and said, good luck. We are going to take a little peacock commercial break. We will be back in two minutes and 32 seconds.

Okay. Welcome back, everybody. Before we get to a few other things here, I touched on it. Big night. For England. I tell you, I, I'm just, I'm so shocked as well. I always thought soccer was just, and you still see it. I got a man, this part.

I'm like, he didn't even get touched and the guys rolling around on the ground. That's the part that always bugged me. Yeah. Like that, that's not hockey. That's not cycling. I think hockey and cycling are the too toughest sports in the world. You see these guys rolling around. But, man, this is so fun to watch.

We had a whole crew at the house last night. England versus Mexico in this insane environment in Mexico City. Azteca Stadium had to delay the game an hour because of lightning again. Two goals within, what, minute and 38 seconds? We were, you know, as a matter of fact, everybody there was cheering for England, except. Except, one person. No, two.

Two, Pip. Liz Crutes. Yeah. In her Holland shirt. was cheering for Mexico. And George, George just sat on his hands. He was quiet.

And finally I sat down and said, let me ask you, who are you cheering for? I get it. The Colombian thing. Same language. And he confessed that he was cheering in his heart of hearts.

Underdogs. They were not the underdogs. But in his heart of hearts, he was cheering for Mexico. Anyhow, I am obsessed with the World Cup. Fast forward to today, right? One o'clock, Spain, Portugal.

Probably won't watch that one. Six o'clock, local time. Big one. USA. It's Lance versus Johan. Tonight, six o'clock. Been a lot of controversy. I'm sure everybody's, if you, unless you live in a cave, our guy, our best guy.

I don't even know his name. I don't. I just know he's our best guy. They took back the red card. A lot of international. controversy about this, but I am, I will be parked on that couch watching the stars and strikes. There was some controversy about your guys' red card last night as well.

They're all different. This is the thing that I will, I will say that bugs me. Like if you watch, and there's one ref, and there is this review, but he goes over and watches typically, I, what do I know? But you know what I love about your newfound love of soccer? Tell me. is you're now open to logistically how we can get to Miami next Saturday and get back for the show to watch England, Norway.

What times the game? Well, no, we're going to have a discussion on that. Well, I had, you know, we don't, and we are going to get to business back to talking about cycling and the Tour de France here in just a second. I instituted a rule last tour. Of course, we're down here in the basement below Aspen Mountain Fitness. And it was our studio. And last year, I said, no visitors.

There will be no outsiders. Nobody can come in. Got to stay focused. Well, we had an interloper this morning, our friend Todd. We'll name any names here because we're starting to get into the Luminati. Yeah. Okay. But he tips me off that he is leaving in a couple hours to fly with another friend of ours.

Yeah. On a jizzy. Yep. To the USA game and fly back. on Georgia's plane. No, no. Believe me. But potentially the same plane that we filmed that really funny.

Oh, yes. No, it's a different plane. I've been on this jizzy. This is something different. This is a real jizzy. This is real hardware. Anyhow, he says, oh, and we're also flying to Miami for the England, Norway game. Now, I will not be, I'll be here, folks.

Now, we're just going to put this out there. There may be a day where somebody, needs to sit here. Because if Sir Bradley can hit your ride... We throw Ben in there. Ben's been not shooting us something. Oh, Ben would be crying if he couldn't go with his dad. That's true.

You're right. Now we're getting to the meat of it. Jizzies, hardware, in and out. Well, it... Yeah. Well, we could get Trump to ring up the ASO and change the rest day of the Tour de Trump to Sunday. And...

It happens. Quinn Simmons, overall winner of the Tour de fronts. Everyone else was disqualified. Wow. Crazy. Yeah, you got to go to this game. Well, let's see. Let's see. Let's see how the tour pans out. If the tour's won at the end of the third week, there's not much to talk about. Yeah. The third week or end of the first week? The first week. Okay. End of the first week. Yeah. Yeah. Let's hope that doesn't happen. We've got the tour malay coming up this week. Yeah. Let's see how the tour pans. I don't want to be a buzzkill, but there's two guys sitting at this desk who pretty much just dominated tour.

is line to line. Like, who's good in the first week is usually the guy that's good in the third week. It's not a lot of, like, didn't you come out? You got second to cancel out the prologue. Yeah, we were the only two to have yellow that year. And then it was pretty much done then. Okay. Now let's talk about cycling.

Yeah. All right, let's talk. We're going to talk about the stage four. We do have a stage tomorrow. Another hot one. This is the stage four preview presented by Van Do it. Head on over to vanduitt.com. Mention,

then we sent you $5,000 off your van package, so to speak. This is a brand created not for camping, but for cycling. Check it out. Van do it.com. Let's look at stage four. Another hot one. 102, would you say, Spencer, 102 at the start, 97 at the finish? Yes.

Another, you know, I think it's over 2,500 meters of verse. vertical 2,800 meters. 2,800. It's a good stage, yeah. In that temperature, not going to be easy. Like, I assume FWA that's, it's like you go into the Pyrenees a little bit. Yeah, it's the foothills. Yeah.

Yeah. Hence the slightly cooler temps. Do we have the profile handy? I see shuffling back there running. I mean, that's okay. It's not, the key thing is it's not. I thought Spencer was going to say it's not. Okay. It's not a summit finish, which will probably dictate how it's raced.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. Look at that. Cat four, cat three, cat two, cat two. This is a hard day. Hard day. This is just a... Well, let's go to Sir Bradley. I mean, is this... You called it right yesterday. So this region, Carcassonne, we normally, you know, two weeks into the tour when we get to the Pyrenees in this area. That's right. Fair. And so to have it on day four, you know, that you have to sort of rip up the textbook of what could happen. And I still think that I would say most people are still fresh with day four. I know it's been hard, but the natural speed of the Peloton, everyone trying to get in the brakes, the kind of, you know, the jostling and the battle in between Visma and UAE and what's going on there, the dynamic.

I think that it will naturally just cause the speed to be high all the whole day and we could have a bunch sprint again. No. Of leaders. Come on. At some point, the breakway's got to go. You keep saying that, but we've said that. We sat here last year for two weeks and said that. But let me like make it more exciting, like the anticipation of a potential breakaway.

Cargason, super hot, like we said. Also could be potentially very windy. You guys remember riding into Cargosome, like exposed roads. So, yeah, it's going to be really hard to control. I mean, if a team like UAE wants to control it, they can do it. But you'd think they wouldn't prefer a breakaway to go and maybe get some other person in the yellow jersey. Let's see, George. Let's see what happened.

Not a short stage, 182 kilometers. So, you know, in this, in this sort of this generation of cycling, this is longish. Today was the second longest stage of the tour. But back to back, hunter, the final climb is 30-ish kilometers from the finish. That would be something if Baguagachar attacked there. I can't see that. No, that's not. But could you see him riding away on stage one of tour Switzerland?

You know, there's things that are happening currently. But that's five days long. That's not the jury friend. Yeah. I think, I think, yeah. Come on.

I'm now realizing. He's capable. But, you know, I'm now realizing why, because I screwed up the whole thing. Because I, as we were coming out of the peacock break,

I had an order of things we were going to talk about, and I completely didn't look at it and forgot it. Yesterday, we announced the creation of a, of a voicemail line. Oh, yeah. So you guys,

just guys, gals, kids, whatever. just give us a call. Leave a... I even left the recording on there. Like, thanks for calling.

Do we have the number to plug? We have... Plug it? Yeah, we may as well plug it again. 970. 7182736. That rings straight down into George's room at the house. That's a direct line.

If you don't pick up, it goes to the voicemail. So that's up, George. But anyhow, I mean, we opened this thing up and it was like phone caught on fire, which is kind of cool. So we pulled a couple. And just so you all know, and I think we'll just keep this rolling every day. But we're not listening to these before. The team is listening to, I suppose, all of them. And are we hearing some today?

Yeah. I'm building up to you. But just know. So the team will pull a couple, two, three message. for us to listen to or answer or whatever. But we've not heard them. So who knows, right? This is raw.

And just to you all know, the last time that Lance Armstrong responded to one of my voicemails, 19, oh, no, probably 2002, early 2000, last time we're responding. You should feel very fortunate that he is going to respond to some of y'all's voice messages. Do you have a voice mail block set up? Like, do you have a thing on there? Like, hey, this is Bradley. Thanks for calling? No.

I don't either. I don't understand. Now, I want everybody. but early messages here or questions, comments, concerns. I don't understand why people leave voicemails. I'm like, why are you? That's like a Liz Cruz thing. Liz calls people.

I'm like, why are you calling me? Don't call me. Text me. Okay. All right. Let's do the first one. This is the first message. What's up, the move?

I was wondering, do you think there was a small, I relief from Cavendish when Pugachar gifted the wind of Del Toro with the record? You know, he's going to have to get every win he can and not get anything away if he's going for that record. Do you think that record is even on his radar right now? Thank you. Love the show. Thank you. It sounded like Teovov, didn't he?

No, he sounds like George, that guy is from, that boy is from the South. Yeah. I'm just going to say. I agree. You know, there are, I'm from Kansas. That's maybe a little, the draw is a little strong. There's people in Kansas that talk. What's the area, Codland?

That's Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi. Carolinas, maybe Northern Florida. So, Vaughn does a segment like this on his podcast. A lot of people like, I've been sleeping with my sister. You reckon that's a good thing? Should we get it back on the line? I don't know. Well, we talked about it earlier, and we can all chime in here.

But, well, I guess, you know, let me just add to that question. Is this something that Cav is paying attention to, do you think, Bradley? I think Cab has achieved what he's achieved in the sport. he's satisfied and happy with that. Cav will look at Taday with the utmost respect. And I don't think he's the tall. If anything, he would welcome him breaking his record because it shows the sport is moving on. Yeah. And I think

Todd is sole focus is Twitter France stage win or Twitter France G.C. win. And the stage wins is just a byproduct of that. I don't think he's even thinking about the record. Yeah. And that was that that was what he said at the start of his question. Did did Cab breathe a sigh of relief? And that's there's the answer. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Who else we got, Colton? This is Drew from New Jersey. I'd like to know if George dyes his beard. Oh, you're going at Goo Goo. Come on. I'm trying to a lot. Drew from Jersey. What a heater.

All that stuff. Well, did you answer the question? I do occasionally, yes. Wait, you do? Yeah. Drew. Drew. You actually...

Drew got me. That's definitely a Jersey question. I got you, Drew. You have at times died your beard. What is wrong with you? Are you kidding me right now? I'm going to get it flooded. Bradley, would you ever dye your beard?

No. No, I mean... That is the weirdest. I have beard envy. Bro. You're blushing, bro. You have died... What do you do with, like, Grecian?

No, no, not greasing. I do the natural shit, bro. Just for men. But do you dye your hair? No. Just the beard. Yeah. Interesting.

Wow. Drew, thank you so much for that. George did send me this, this fool. Oh, no, don't go. No, this fool. No, no. Down to my left, all the way to my left was, you know, he's sitting around the house in his skibbies.

But this was a true story. Just on the, on the couch every morning. watching by grazing he started to tell me this thing oh I did this you know this like challenge

just journey to self-discovery thing down in the Amazon and I went and did 10 days and talked to me 30 days whatever and so he which was all bullshit

but he sends me this picture and he goes and this is how I came out now I don't have the we don't have the picture ready to queue up but since you're talking about and we're going to wait

dying your beard you should see this photo that he created of himself of what it was like after 30 days in the Amazon. You would not be surprised the man dies his beard. Part of the stories, part of the story is,

part of the stories, they dropped me in the middle into Amazon butt naked. So when you see the story, the picture of how I came out, then it just makes a lot more sense. You know, and hopefully we forget about this story for 10 days from now, so we don't have to talk about it. I met the man in 1989.

Now, I'm thinking, 55 years old, I still cannot grow a beard. If my life depended on it, I couldn't grow a beard like that. You got like the patches. It's horrible. I can't do it. When I met the man in 1989, I was 16 years old. He had a full beard.

And I'm like, oh, what is up with this? The Quinn Simmons of your time. Full beard in 1989. Wow. That's impressive. I mean, you know, I think we're all envious of Bradley's beard. We should just put that out there. Let's do a little, uh, let's do a little, uh,

Let's do a little. By the way, keep them coming. These are great. This is the kind of shit we want to hear. And we can even... Go easy on me, please. Just focus on these guys a little bit. Dear George, do you shave your...

It is time for Ventum trivia. Yesterday's question, 2016 marks the third time the Tour de France starts in Spain. What were the other two years? Answers. 2023, as we got. And 1992. Hmm. On stage three.

Here's today's trivia question for Ventum. And by the way, to submit your answers, head on over to ventumracing.com slash the move. While you're there, do a little shop and you get 10% off with the code. The Move 10. Here's today's question. On stage three, the race makes an early entrance

to the Pyrenees. The cold of torments, this is not stages. Stage. Six, right? Nonetheless, it doesn't matter whatever stage it is. Forget the stage. Early in the tour, they make an early entrance into the Pyrenees. the cold of tourmalade just nearby is the single most climbed mountain in the tour to France history.

Roughly, not roughly. How many times has the tour crossed it? How many times has the tour climbed the tourmalade? Both sides or one particular side? I guess cross would probably. I think you got to count both sides. You can do both sides. There's a sort of a traditional iconic side that they like to go up, but either side.

I looked at the answer that they gave us. I'm going to fact check. It seemed like a lot. Okay. I would think it's a lot. A lot. When did it first? When was it debuted?

Do we know? Early. Okay. So, yeah, it would be a lot. Okay. Any, any, I'm sure I have forgotten. I can't get over the, the beard die question. This is Colton.

I do need to perfect the method. This is like a lot more, a lot of ways to do it. So I got to figure it out. Let's just do it. Or should I just shave this next week? I don't know. All right. Don't shave.

Don't shape. Cool. Well, that does it for us. Thanks for tuning in everybody. We will see you all tomorrow morning for stage four.