THEMOVE - Is This a Turning Point for Enric Mas & Movistar? | La Vuelta a España 2026 Stage 21 | THEMOVE

Episode Date: September 13, 2026

Johan Bruyneel and Spencer Martin break down Sunday's final stage of the Vuelta and go through where Enric Mas sealed his career-defining overall win and what it means for his Movistar team. They also look ahead and wonder where Mas and Movistar go from here, and how this positions Mas for the remainder of the season. Become a WEDŪ Member Today to Unlock VIP Access & Benefits: https://access.wedu.team Ultra Pouches: Ultra is the ultimate guilt-free pouch — delivering instant focus and mental clarity, without nicotine or caffeine. New customers can use code THEMOVE to get 15% off at https://TakeUltra.com. After you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them. PLEASE support our show and tell them our show sent you. Eight Sleep: Use code THEMOVE at https://eightsleep.com/themove for up to $350 off. 30 days to try it at home. Free returns if it's not for you. MOD: Visit https://MOD.com for a free consultation and get 10% off your first order PLUS free shipping with promo code THEMOVE. Odoo: Stop paying for missing pieces. Go to https://Odoo.com

Spencer, listen, it's something unbelievable. Look, today, by coincidence, I got sent a picture of the podium of the Vuelta in 95. I finished on the podium. I saw the picture. I was proud about it. I posted it on social media. I'm still proud of it. It's a huge accomplishment.

So, you know, that's just third place. So, I mean, if you, like, the ending must three times second in the Vuelta, now winning it. It's amazing. I mean, there's not that many writers who are able to do that. in the history of cycling. So, huge accomplishment. Even if,

even if Eric Mass now doesn't win any races anymore, he has reached, I think, the maximum of his potential. It's amazing. So, yeah, congratulations to him.

Everybody, welcome back to the Move podcast. I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johann Berniel. We're breaking down stage 21, the final stage of Lavuel, Spain. We will not be doing a preview because it's the last stage, but we will be going through the greater GC trends we saw. Inric Moss wins the overall, seals the overall win, not a shock. We didn't think it was going to be shook up on today. And the final circuit lap was new,

the time was neutralized. So it would have been hard for Moss to lose it anyway. But Moss wins, Moss from Movistar, big for him and the Mobistar team, because he's Spanish, winning the Volta Spania, as we've discussed about in the last few days, very rare in modern cycling that a writer from the country the grand tour is happening in wins the grand tour he wins with primus rogledge second two minutes 15 seconds back felix golf third two minutes 44 seconds back oscar only winning the white jersey over jacob ormizel from baron victory is kind of a unexpectedly good battle there ormizel was one 10 back santiago betrago beating walt vannart for the k o m jersey closer than you think 78 points of 62 points while vinart winning the points

Jersey over Matthew Brennan by quite a large margin. And if anyone can tell me who won the team's classification, I'd be impressed. It's decathlon over Astana by 38 minutes. But the final stage, the circuit in Granada, was a pretty good circuit. One by Tobias Holland Johansen of UnoX, a climber, not a sprinter, sprint won a sprint out of a small group. He was second yesterday, first today over Alessandro Romeli, Romeli, from XDS Astana, much better sprinter, much bigger rider, with Razumus DeBreina from Alpison.

And third, he, of course, was third yesterday. Johannes was second yesterday. So of the top three today, two of them were top three yesterday. That's telling us that there's very few riders who are just even have the energy left to contest these stages. Matthew Brennan, one of the stage favorites was fourth. He was bullied and dropped in the last few kilometers because nobody wanted to go to the line with him. And then while up been the major favorite, he was like a minus one and 50 for the stage. Joe Han dropped on the final climb.

It doesn't even figure in that in that final group probably fatigued from a massive amount of work. We assume he did yesterday for Sep Kus that we did not see on TV. He also, I mean, the guy won. What did he win like two brutal cat one climbs and then waited up and pulled a teammate for another climb all the way to the base of the final climb. So we'll excuse him for being dropped. But Johan, our move of the day, final day that it's sponsored by eight sleep. We're sad that we will not. be able to check in on our eight sleep move of the day, at least for the next few days.

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I think the way he won this stage, this was not a stage specifically for him. He tried everything he could yesterday. Initially he came to the Vuelta for GC. Apparently he got sick. He got a sunstroke. How do you call that? Yeah, like heat stroke, I guess.

Heat stroke, yeah. heat stroke, yeah. He was like sick for a week and then bounced back. Yesterday went all in. You know, met a super Michel Landa because he was super strong also yesterday. So it's quite unusual for then a rider like this to be up there with the punchers at the end. And especially the way he won this sprint man, because Romeroa is a good sprinter. And man, he just went from the corner to the finish, won that stage. I also saw it's been three years since he won a race. His last race he won it in 2023.

And for such a good rider, it's quite a long time. He's been trying, trying, trying. I still remember him. I think it's 2021. This rider won the Tour de 11 year. And so, you know, five years later, he's been up there in a lot of, I mean, he was sixth in the Tour de France, I think, last year. Yeah.

And, yeah, for him to win this stage today, And you could see that the relief, you know, and the emotion, what it means to win a stage in a ground tour for a rider who has been trying for such a long time. So for me, definitely eighth leap move of the day is Tobias Johannison winning the stage in Granada. Yeah, kind of a testament too. It is super impressive that he won, especially when he considered, as you say, he had not won a grand tour stage ever. And he didn't gift stage seven, but he played the good teammate card and let Lecknison attack.

first. While he said on Van Art, he probably was the better climber that day. He probably could have won that stage. Yeah. And then he finished his second yesterday. And, you know, I love it. It's just like, well, I didn't get the result I wanted on the stage that I want that I prioritized.

So I'm just going to come back and win the final day in a sprint. A lot of guys would not even be in the mental space to execute that. So just mentally, like, to be so dialed in and like, you know what? I'm going to get in that move and I'm going to out sprint. the guy who finished third in the points classification. That is crazy to do. Yeah. By the way, by the way, this young Alessandro is Alessandro, no, Romilly?

Yes. What a discovery, man. I mean, I did not know this writer, but he's been, he's been really, really dominant. I mean, present in a lot of stages. And we're definitely going to see a lot from him. I don't know where he comes from, but definitely a very, very good writer. I'd never heard of him before this felt. He comes from Colpac.

Like in 2023 was on Colpac. Astana development team in 2024. And then he's been on Astana. Astana's got a lot of good, a lot of good riders. They've discovered a lot of talent. I've been super impressed by him. Big guys, 76 kilos. I thought for sure he had that sprint.

But as you say, Johan, I was thinking about you watching this. This is not about speed. Today's win was not about finishing speed. It's about who had anything left, you know? Exactly. fitness. Yeah, everybody else is gassed. Yeah, I mean, you could see, you know, I was, I was surprised, obviously a big surprise to see Walt Vonart getting dropped. You know, he tried, was in there. And I agree with you. I think he definitely paid for what he did yesterday. And most of what he

did yesterday, we haven't seen. But I can only imagine once he, once SEPCUS was escaped from the Peloton and then Walt waited for him. He did, I think he did like a 30, 40 kilometers time trial. Same like he did in the Giro with Simon Yates, you know. So that obviously takes a lot out of him. You can see also, I mean, if you see the images when Walt finished his job yesterday and just parked on the left side of the road, like basically struggling to stay on his bike and keep the speed to move up the climb, that means you gave everything. And he obviously paid for that. Also, I was really impressed with Matthew Brennan today to be up there in that punchy stage. You know, what's suffering at the end came back and that's ultimately what cost him.

And then also, of course, being the big favorite, right? Everybody was looking at him to close all the gaps. He did almost all the work behind those three guys and then still finished, managed to win the sprint for Ford. So, you know, if they would have caught these three guys, Brandon would have won his sixth stage. which is impressive. But, uh, but,

uh, I'm happy. I'm happy for, for, for, uh, you know, X,

they deserve to win today. Yeah. I mean, the Brennan ride was super impressive. He was in the initial, they, they start going through these, these laps.

He's in the initial split. You know, it's like six, six, six, seven guys up there. Ben Ars in the group behind and you're like, that's not easy. I mean,

to even position yourself in a place to make that split on a climb like that, like tells us he had the legs. And then I thought, I thought, I thought the others played it pretty well in the end. It's like, you don't want to be pulling Matthew Brennan to the line, make him close gaps. And it tells you how hard it was. Like Axel Laurence from that company Ineos, like we looked amazing on that final climb when he attacked.

And then he makes that group, he kind of splits the group. He's the one that initiates the move. And then he can't even hold the wheel when DeBroina is on the front with the K to go. Like that shows you how hard, how hard they were going inside that funnel kilometer, which also tells us why a climber G. or G.C. guy could win the sprint because it's not, this is not a normal sprint coming from a controlled pace. It was just all, like everyone was on their knees by the time they got to the finish. Yeah. Here's another name, Spencer, Rameses, Rameses de Breonna. It's Rameses. It's not Rasmus.

Ramesses de Brayna. You know, relatively unknown to the main public. You know, we've seen him already in some good stage. I think he finished second in the stage in the Dauphiné. It was up there in the Spring Classics, very, very complete rider, very relatively new to cycling. He was a speed skater before, ice skating, obviously a very compatible sport with cycling, but doesn't have the culture of growing up as a youth rider through the ranks of the young cyclists and was came quite late to the sport. You know, finishing like this, let's not forget, he was already third in one stage where Pogacar Enrique Mas were in front.

He was third there on the, I think on stage six on the, Puerto de Bartolo. That was impressive. Yesterday he was third. He's been in other moves today. To finish like this for a young writer like that, that's very promising for the future. Ramesses de Breonna. We need to remember that name.

He got fifth. You remember the stage of the tour, stage four, where Mads Pedersons away with Quinn Simmons and then Pedersen wins the sprint. He was fifth on that stage. but also did the tour. I forgot about that. So for a young rider to finish the tour and then be so good. We should say.

Oh, he didn't finish the tour. Yeah. Okay. I don't know if he crashed out or what. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. But anyways, the young rider who finishes a grand tour like this.

Yeah, quite impressive, quite impressive. Anything. We should talk about the neutralization, but maybe we take a quick break. Do you have anything else on the actual action of the. stage before we do that. I mean, the only, yeah, I mean, yeah, we can talk about it afterwards when we talk about the utilization. So, yeah, let's take a quick break.

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It does really help the show. So, Johan, if anyone's like, well, they're not mentioning any GC guys because the GC group, even before the neutralization happened on the final lap there was a small breakaway away there was a chase group a big chase group and then moby star at the front of the gc group and they just kind of put a lid on it they were going slow but they were going at a controlled pace no gc guys tried to get up and get a time gap in that front group which i you could imagine like you know like if you're field scull and you make that split like prima's wrong which is in a tough spot but what did you think about that?

And then what did you think about this? They ended up, they were going back and forth on if it was going to be the whole stage, you ended up being the last final, like, I think it was the final 9.8K were neutralized. So GC times were taken. I think it's the second to last time they go over the finish line. What did you think about that decision? And then, like, most importantly, what did you think about why are we doing this like day of the race? What is going on with that?

Yeah, that's the issue, right? I mean, listen, I think we are, we don't have enough information. we're not there. We don't have the on-site information about the state of the course. So it's easy to say, okay, you know what? Why are they doing this? They should race. It was an urban circuit.

So, you know, you could say, well, you know, if they predict rain or maybe it's going to rain, you can say, okay. But the issue I have with these kind of things is that this course is decided almost a year before on beforehand, right? So why are we always dealing with this the day before or the day of the race is the problem? You can say, okay, you know what? It's an urban circuit, lots of corners. The roads look a bit shiny, but we didn't really see any issues in terms of being super dangerous.

I'm sure that the riders, the GC riders, they all agreed. Actually, they didn't even wait until the last lap. before I think there was there was a common agreement between the GC riders that you know they they would not they would not contest the stage or they would not try to that was clear you know and Movistar went to the front by the way great jersey man great great uniform today white with the red Movistar logo the whole team that was that was really really nice but so yeah the writers decided on their own and then finally the the organizers and the UCI gave in to the pressure of the writers asking for the times to be neutralized in the last lap.

I'm not a big fan of this. I think you either neutral. I mean, listen, if you're going to neutralize, then my question is, why don't you just neutralize all these laps? So basically, what is it? Is the last lap all of a sudden dangerous and the other two? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I get confused by.

Yeah, yeah. That doesn't look good, you know? So anyways, at the end of the day, I think the overall outcome is good for everybody. We have a nice stage winner. I doubt that if the race would not be neutralized, it would be a different stage winner. Probably not. Because the GC riders would be in the front, but they probably, you know, I mean, yeah, maybe some of those guys would be, yeah, you know, Roglidge, Gull and Musk,

they would have been in the front group, I think, because it was hard. But they wouldn't have contested the stage. I just think it's a relief for the riders, right? The GC riders say, okay, you know, at least I don't have to be nervous and stressed out to not be gapped off in those corners. That's the only, you know, upside I can see for them.

But it just is strange to see that we're making this decision just hours before the race. and yeah so is it the question is also you know so it's dangerous for the gc riders and it's not dangerous for the guys who want to go for the points or the stage win that doesn't make much sense so yeah same thing happened at the tour de france by the way this year you know i mean they also they there were threats of rain but it didn't rain finally uh it was different because we saw pogachar go for the stage win but that's because it's pogachar uh Yeah, it's a strange situation.

It's not, I don't think it's, it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. People, you know, the mainstream viewers don't understand, I think. You know, you have a race, but you really don't have a race because the times don't count. You know, what are we doing? Yeah. And if I'm not, if I'm remembering correctly, the final stage of the women's tour this year was a circuit, right? And Nice.

It was like amazing. Yeah. Yeah. okay but it was yeah but it was it was mountains so yeah it was yeah no it's not the same yeah i mean but like what's a mountain this was 2k at 6% like if it was 4k at 6% are they neutralizing it yeah that's what i thought the outcome was fine today like what it was great why is this like this course isn't a secret this is like we've known this for months for months and people have planned this for months you know and also what if it was someone's plan of like well i'm

I'm going to come back and went, like, I'm going to make up a lot of time on the final stage and then you get to the final stage and it's neutralized. Yeah. And I just think, I just think these stages should be better designed. You know, I mean, you can do a circuit. But, you know, don't make it so technical. Yeah. And then, you know, I don't know if it's possible in Granada.

But I'm sure there's, there's ways around it. You do that little climb and then you have a clean running. And anyways, again, I think we are judging from the outside without having the information. If we would ask the riders, I think, I would say 90% of the riders wanted this. Would let's say the final stage of Paris Nice was the final stage of the two to fronts. Would that get neutralized? What do you think? The stage of Paranese, meaning the circuit?

there around cold days? Yeah, like the legendary final day. I think they would. Never. Never. Never. I think they would absolutely try to. It's nowhere here.

Stage 21. What if there's gaps? What if something happens? No, no. No, no, you can't do that. No, not on the cold days, man. That's like real climbing. It's like, you know, six, seven kilometer climbs.

And there's several climbs. I think it's, you know, there's the cold days. And then there's another one. I think there's two climbs on that circuit. I don't know if they're new. neutralizing these stages saying there's not enough climbing. Like what are they saying it's not safe? Like would they say like that's too technical of a circuit?

Because it is kind of a technical descent down. The circuit on the circuit in Paris Nice? Yeah. No, it's not that. No, it's not as technical as this one. No, no, no. It's fast. The downhills are fast, but it's not, there's not a lot of turns.

Well, we should say this was a pretty technical. I was watching it thinking like where it's hard to tell where you were. you're like, are they, they're just constantly going into and out of a corner. So I totally get the frustration with that and why. I just like, we should have this conversation in April. Why is it happening now is my question. We shouldn't even have the conversation, Spencer. We should have a safe circuit.

Well, well, what if the Volta said we thought the circuit was safe? And we're only hearing it's unsafe the day before. Like shouldn't it have to go through some review process? It's ex professional cyclist who designed the course, Spencer. You know, it's, it's Kiko Garcia, Fernando Escartin. I mean, they should, they know, they should know, you know. They're designing the course. But if they design the course and release the course and no one complains,

well, the thing is, you know, these climbs, these are the things that they don't preview. You know, the writers don't, the teams don't preview this. They just have a look, okay, you know, we're looking at, okay, these are the key stages, mountain stages, time trial. This is what we're going to preview. nobody previews this circuit they just look at it on a map first of all and then you get when as you get closer to the in the race you're going you're going to go look through the details you know you can't preview every stage of a grand tour yeah well in the stage doesn't exist I think it's important

to point out you couldn't preview it because the circuit only exists when they block it off so you don't even yeah exactly yeah yeah it's just totally different same thing with milan where it's like well I mean, in theory, you could say we're having a stage here. You go and it's a busy intersection. What are you going to do with that information? Yeah. It's hard to even imagine what the course is going to look like. In terms of the G.C., though, just to quickly run through,

Inric Moss wins this stage. You want to say anything nice about Enric Maas? This isn't, it's like an opposite of an erring of grievances. Do we want to say anything nice about Movistar and Enric Moss before we break down how we won this race? You mean, he wins the overall. He wins the overall, yeah. Yeah. We're leaving.

No, listen, I think, I think, well deserved. He showed he was the best, the most consistent. Only lost time, well, twice, I think, to Felix Gall. Yesterday he lost 18 seconds, and then there was another stage where he lost 10 seconds. Stage seven, he lost 10 seconds. Yeah, but, you know, he won, he gained time on all the other stages, was always there. His team, I think, did an amazing job. That's also another thing, Spencer, let's not forget.

they were seven riders very early on. They lost the guy who was supposed to be with Enric Maas all the time, Kianne Utebrugs, after the crash on stage three or four, I think. Yeah. Well, it was in Andorres for stage four. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, that was a big mountain rider that they didn't have.

And so I remember initially we were worried about the strength of movie star. And they played it, man, like, you know, textbook 101, you know, like constantly sending these guys in breakaways and then have them wait. The teammates rose to the occasion. You know, they did certain performances that normally you would not expect, especially, for example, a guy like Raul Garcia did some amazing stages. Castrillo was very good. Ivan Romeo, I mean, you know, the whole team, you know.

So I think it's really well deserved for Enric Maas. especially if you look Spencer his his Palmaris in the in the Vuelta it's crazy it's crazy this is the fifth time that Enric Mas is on the podium

so he had three three second places already and a third place and now he wins we also checked his seven times in the top six in the Vuelta and he beats a rider

Primos Rogglich who has won four times the Vuelta. I have the list here of Primos's Palmar is in the Veltta. It's even more spectacular. So Primos won. He won his first one.

He won his second one. He won his third one. Then he had a DNF. And then he was third, first, and second. I mean, it's six podiums also, but four wins. One second place and a third place. So, you know, you can't say, you know, he just, okay, he won because Pugachar.

you know, crashed out. He beat the record holder of the tour of Spain. I think it's still tied with Roberto Herras. They both won four. And then, yeah, third place, you know, Felix Gaulle, second in the Giro, third in the third in this year's wealth out, if I remember correctly, fifth in last year's tour of rounds.

Yeah, so, yeah. Well, he's finished the tour three times. he's finished fifth and sixth. Wait. Okay. So. Yeah. Wait, wait.

Wait, wait. I'm going to mind. Enric Moss or Primus Weevich. No, no, no. No, no, no. Felix Gall. Felix Gall. So last year at the tour, he did.

It was fifth. Kind of like kind of out of nowhere, but not really out of nowhere. And he's like super, super, super consistent. Like, yeah. You go through Burgos, wins Burgos. Obviously, finishes third here. Second at the Giro. Fifth at UA Tour.

I mean, he doesn't always blow you off the page. Eight at the Veltz last year. Like, he's just kind of always up there. Fifth of the tour. Fifth of the Tour of the Alps. I think he had a teammate win. Third at Perry Nice. Like, just really consistent.

Freakishly consistent. So anyways, I think it says a lot about the performance of Alikmas. You know, he beat some really, really good riders. So, yeah, again, I think, you know, in Spain, Spain is super happy. I mean, I was following the comments. And then you see the people at the podium. This is a rider who's been struggling. Has been criticized tremendously for his way of racing, apparently his lack of attacking.

I remember when I saw me, he's gotten attacked a lot, even in the press. You know, you just can't attack for the sake of attacking because the people want to see you attack. you're not going to attack and then blow up you know if you're there to be top five that's your job and you're struggling to hang on with these guys you know so what are you going to do just attack because people want to attack and then 500 meters later blow up and be tent you know he's a really good writer had some issues you know he had a surgery i think last year with with circulation like veins veins i don't know exactly what he was was.

So he struggled a lot. But man, the way he wrote in this Vuelta, from the beginning, from the very beginning, he was there. Again, I cannot repeat enough. I've said it this morning also. I went out on a bike ride and I'm speaking to people. This is one of the only riders who came back

to Tade Pugacha, when Pugacha was going full gas for a stage win. There's not many, many riders who have been able to do that. And Rigmas is one of them. if pogachar would have been in the race he probably would have finished second because he was the best of everybody else yeah it's not the and it's not the first time he's done it you know pulling back baghachar like it goes all the way back to 2021 on the not attacking always bothers me he's yeah well i mean also spencer we i think we talked about it uh he beat pogachar it was it was a 2021 tour of amelia when he yeah yes it was like

a week before Lombardia, where he got second then to Pagacchar. Yeah, so he beat Pogacar there, dropped him. And then the week after was with Pogacar in Lombardy. So, you know, it's not new. You know, he's a strong rider. Well deserved. And I mean, so the first, so the first welta he ever does, he finishes 71st is probably a NeoPro. And then since then, he's never finished lower than sixth and finished on the podium,

him one, two, three, four, five times. That's crazy, crazy. Just like, not many riders can do that. And he's not beating panic who can't here. People forget about Prima Zraglich. This was not the best prima prima zouklish we ever saw. Do you know how, so major one-week stage races, the big seven. Do you know who has won the most in their career?

I mean, know this person. Current rider? No, no, just all time. Oh, all time. must be Andy Merck's no no not Eddie Merck's even no even bigger badass than all of these people Sean Kelly Sean Kelly yeah so 14 one week

major one week stage race he won seven times but he needs that helps that's how many major one week races Eddie Merckes has won seven yeah and he did that one And second, this is all time, all time. First amongst active riders, Primos Roglich. And not only that, so he's won 11 overall major one-week stage races. And then obviously he's had his grand tour successes with his zero and Volta wins. But then in terms of stage wins, he is 10th of all time in one-week stage wins.

I mean, so he's a killer both in winning stages and overalls. I think people forget he was a machine. Just in terms of winning races, there's a very few. few riders outside of top sprinters that can ever win races like that. Yeah. Just a machine. So that's it. That's an impressive guy to beat and then Fieldskull also impressive guy to beat because

he's one of the, you know, he got second at the Giro. He's like a top, top free agent, not really a free agent, but he's leaving his team. So you got another team to be G.C. Ryder. So Enric Moss, super impressive as you say. You see it with like tennis in the US, you know, like tennis is kind of not that big unless an American is doing well at an American tournament, and then it's a big deal, which is happening right now. So that is big for Spanish cycling. I assume that he's doing well and winning.

Yeah. Yeah. And now he's, I'm going to guess. He goes to the world championships, Enrique Mas. I don't know, probably also going to Lombardy because that's a great race for him. He could win it. You know, it's wide open. Is Indythmas ruining cycling? Does, like, is he a problem? You know, it's too boring now. Inric Moss wins everything. What kind of problem? He's just, he's got a lid on the sport. I don't know.

Spencer, look, I mean, it's, listen, I mean, we were talking about, you know, always new generations, this and that, you know, like it's two 30 plus riders who have first and second in the, you know, Andrew Thomas is 31. Primos is 36. Yeah. It's the proof that, you know, it's still, you know, it's still possible to be very performing at a very high level, even in the fall. of your career.

You know, we saw Michelanda win yesterday the stage. Today, Peio Bilbao was, had a shot at some point at trying to win the stage. Yeah, he looked incredible today. Yeah, you know, his last grand tour. Yesterday in another race, I mean, we saw Izagiri, 37 years old, win in Italy, beating Pelizari and others. So, you know, there's still room for success. even in the fall of your career.

And GP Montreal is happening right now. We'll talk about that in terms of world championships, but it's like a crazy race. I can't as we talk about the old men, Paul Sikis is just destroying people. Okay. So, but this is, as I talk about a 19 year old, it's just kind of crazy.

So Enric Maas 31, Pramus Roglich, 36. Fields Skull, not as young as you think, 28. And he's so he's the first rider under 30. Richard Carapas, I'm just listing the final GC in order. Richard Carapas, 33, Sepkous, 32. Wow. And then Oscar

Only, white jersey winner is 6. You rarely see that. Only one rider below 30 in the top 5. Yes, yes. And he's approaching 30. So yeah, the first two riders under the age of 30 are Gall and Onley. You know?

Like, you don't see that in cycling. This This whole, yeah, this whole Valta was about the older generation. You know, three week tours is different. It's a race of attrition. It's a race of resistance. You know, it's the way you recover super endurance. That's where probably young riders could pay a little bit compared to guys with much, a lot of experience.

But still, I like to see this sometimes happening. You know, because we have this crazy, frightening trend, actually, of seeing this young super talents coming to the front very, very early. in their career. So it's nice to see sometimes an old horse running away with the big price. Yeah. And he looked, he looked incredible. I'm just going to go through every stage where GC guys won and lost time,

or top GC guys. So you go back to stage one. The riding was on the wall. Prima's Roglitch. And I've filtered out Lagatchar, which actually makes it a lot. It's a lot more helpful. Roglitch is the best, right?

The best of the guys that finished. So he's zero. Indrik Moss, only 11 seconds behind Rogwich. And he's better than Carapaz, Gall and Onley in that time trial. And then you go to stage two. This is another handwriting on the wall.

Enric Moss, present in accounted for in the front group, Phil Schall leak in 18 seconds. And considering that he finished third by, I want to make sure I get this right, by 29 seconds. So right there, that's a big loss, you know? 18 seconds is a good portion of the difference between second and third. Stage four,

Mountain Stage and Indora, Philis Gull takes time on Moss because I believe he had a great sprint to get second on the stage, third on the stage, and then he got time bonuses during the stage. Moss is a little bit of time to Philiscault there. Stage six, Enric Moss takes almost a minute on everybody.

He was with Pagotcha, but just filter Pagacch out of your mind. It takes basically a minute on Philiscaul. Stage seven, he seeds 10 seconds. I thought he was, I thought it was like, I don't know about this right here.

Stage nine, he wins. He takes time on everybody, 28 seconds on Phil's skull. Stage 12 summit finish, he is the best of the, did he wins? I don't think he won stage 12.

He just won one stage. He only won one stage. Yeah. Stage 12 must have been a breakaway win. With field skull, 27 seconds behind. Stage 14, summit finish. They finished together.

Stage 15 time trial. This is the big one right here. You know, You have Roglidge is zero. Moss loses 33 seconds to Roglidge. And this is what's killing Gall. Goal minus 128. And you look at like Oscar Onley, who's not known as a great time trial, it's minus 52.

So right there, if Gall finishes, even with Jakop Ormazel, then he probably gets second. Stage 20 summit finished yesterday where Gall takes 17 seconds under Inric Moss, but Inrich Moss didn't really have to hold his wheels. So what he loses time on three stages on 20, this is to, to feel his call, he loses time on 20, on 7 and on 4. But other than that, especially the time trialing, like the key, the, like our orb of the future was right there on stage 1 with the time trial. Like we knew he was flying and he probably, if Inric Moss is finishing 11 seconds behind Prima Zaglitch in a time trial, there's a good chance. climbing well that he's going to do extremely well in the overall so he lost he lost 11 seconds in nine nine something kilometers and just and then so triple the distance he lost triple the time 33 seconds in 30 kilometers so it's exactly the same yeah yeah yeah yeah isn't that interesting it's actually less

yeah we were shocked right after the time trial the stage 15 time trial but if you go back to stage one it's all right there it was an indication already yeah so quite fascinating very fascinating how that plays out huge from us and we talked about the team a little bit yesterday we saw the team owner there today didn't look like he was sweating the sponsor situation i am quite curious to see how that plays out this i spoke i spoke to somebody from within the team yesterday spencer uh is they're not worried at all you know that's a great situation to have you know i mean they do have this deal in place with movistar movie star movie star the new CEO has said that they want out so they encourage the team find a new sponsor, but if they don't find it, Movistar has to pay.

Or Movistar maybe, I mean, this is sometimes what happens also, you know, like these big companies, obviously they have connections with other big companies. So maybe Movistar finds another sponsor for them. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And then worst case scenario, they do have a very, very wealthy co-owner of the company who could sponsor the team by himself.

So there's nothing to worry about. Plus, they're now in a situation where probably sponsors will come by themselves to sponsor the team instead of having to look for a sponsor. So they're fine. They're not nervous at all. They're enjoying the moment. And it's nice. I mean, it's like for Xavier and Zouye, you know, like 45 years in business, man. And like he's still winning a grand tour, which is crazy.

It's crazy. It is crazy. And it's a kind of found money. Like a grand, who had this pencil in? Like, Bovetstar is going to win a grand tour this year. I didn't. I didn't see that coming. By the way, by the way,

Unzouye has seven to the France victories. You know, he has one with Perico Delgado, five with Indurine. And one was running the team of Delgado one. Exactly. He was 88. Oh, my God. He was the assistant team director. then the whole reign of Miguel and Drain

he was and then he took over from Jose Miguel Echavari so yeah he's it's 45 years in business yeah that's that's pretty impressive also do you know who they added I don't think we've mentioned this person's name the entire Volta

who went over to the man to management at that team this year Matt White ex post ex post role writer Matthew White I mean I think he's actually the head sport director right now. I think he is, yeah. And that's got to feel pretty good for him. You know,

bad situation at J-Co. I was shocked. He's not, he's not at the Vulta, by the way. He's, he's in Canada because he's also in charge of the Australian national women's team for the world challenge. Interesting. Well, the whole thing, we'll talk about that in the coming weeks. It's just a weird setup, the way they do it, especially with how much money is on the line with these trade teams. Then it's like, well, then you don't have a job. trade team at world championships. Yeah. One of the most important races of the year.

But Johan, anything else on this vault, let's take a quick break and then we'll talk about like, what do we do with this information? Now that Enric Moss is a world destroying grand tour winner, what do what do we do now? But anything else you want to call out about his win?

No, I mean, I think we've covered everything. You know, I think after stage nine. Stage nine is when he won right in Atana. from there from there on i think it was clear that he was going to be very difficult to beat unless something unexpected happened you know it's the first time he was in a situation like this you know having to defend the jersey he was always in the shadow trying to improve his position which is a new experience for him so that's why he was always very cautious in his

interviews but at you know the last three four days you could feel that he knew he was going to win Yeah. I mean, I thought he physically, I didn't recognize him on stage six. When he also, we should have known then this guy's pretty good. That when he reeled in Pagachar, I couldn't figure out who it was. I didn't even recognize him. That's how different his body. One of the things, one of the things is actually unbelievable. And if you look, it's the three, the top three riders of one, two, and three,

it's what you know this is obviously modern cycling is different because you know you have the incredible possibilities of gearing right so you have smaller chain rings bigger sprockets but the unbelievable high cadence of the top three in this well time and rickmas his cadence is crazy felix gal even crazier and primos is a spinning machine you know that's definitely the way the way to go fast up the climbs if you turn the legs fast, fast, fast, like it's, you know, it's very efficient. It doesn't work for everybody, but it's remarkable to see that the top three riders have,

I mean, the leg speed is crazy of these guys. Super, super low, super small gears and high, high cadence. Don't ask, don't ask Greg Lamont about that. He's got some thoughts about that. Oh, yeah. He's surprisingly quiet now about this. He should do a scientific analysis.

He seems to be really strong about that. It's like, Enric Maas, this guy's unbelievable. We've known these performances are unbelievable for a long time. One thing I want to call about this win. So let's say he wins by two minutes, call it two minutes. You know, we're always at the beginning of every grand tour. It's just like, well, you know, it's like the mountains are where the differences are going to be made. So stage six, which is not really a mountain stage, had a tough climb.

and not high mountains. He takes a minute on Gaul, stage 15 time trial, takes a minute on Gaul, wins by just over two minutes. So, like, right there, like, that's the difference. You know, like, if you're about Phyllis Gaul is a grand tour winner or not a grand tour winner, you know, that's what you work on. And that's what Moss has gotten so good at. It's these shoulder stages that aren't high mountain stages because these guys are such

good climbers. They're always going to be good on those stages. Yeah, they're close together on the, they're close together in the big mountain stages. So, yeah, I mean, if you look at the time that Mas took on Gal, I mean, you forget, you forget to count in the, the time trial in Monaco where he did what, like 15, 20 seconds on, on Gall? He took 13 seconds and then 18 seconds the next day. So right there, that's a big chunk in the first two days of the race. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Half a minute and a two minute and a race decided by two minutes. not what you want to give up in the first two days. Yeah.

Well, I think, you know, as I said yesterday, I think Gall is also happy with his third place. It's pretty impressive also for him, you know, to finish second in the Gero, third in the tour, being on Decathlon where all the attention is on Paul Sexas, now leaving two little track to be a GC rider there. I think Felix Gall can be very satisfied with his campaign this season.

I know we're talking about the old guys, but holy smokes. If you're watching Montreal right now, the youth is coming. So it's like freaky. It's like watching a different speed of cycling, watching these guys. Holy smokes. But Johan, let's take a quick break and then we'll look ahead to like, you know, where do we go from here? We'll be right back.

So Enric Moss, grand tour stage winner, presumably he's going to world championships. Is that right, Johan? Yeah. In two weeks in Montreal. The two leaders for the Spanish election or Andrews, MacMas and Juan Aruso. Juan Riosso crashed in Quebec, so we'll see how he recovers, but it's still. Yeah, but it seems he's going to be okay.

They have a strong team, man. They have a strong team. Did you see how he crashed? Paul Seixas took him out. Well, what were they doing? Lance would have strong thoughts about this. If Lance knew this that this race. Sprinting for sprinting for seventh or something.

Yeah. You know, you see it's normal now. Everybody does it. Yeah. It doesn't come without risk. You know? Like, yeah, I guess it's worth it. So, yeah, Eric Masse goes to the worlds.

I will probably do Lombardy also. We were going to talk about the worlds in a few weeks. Where does he go from here? I mean, this is, this is the highlight of his career. You know, this is it. You know, he cannot do anything better. You know, he's 31. He's settled in in Mobistar.

He won't move anywhere. he will probably finish his career there. It depends how long he wants to keep racing. He started pretty young. I think he was 21. Is this his 10th year pro? Probably? It's got to be if 20, well, was he pro in 2016 would be the question.

Probably some sort of professional, right? At least a half year pro. He was actually on the development team of Quickstep. They had a development team. team there called Ethics or something or Young Constancia. I think it was Young Constancia. It is. Yeah, I remember that.

So was that 2016? Yeah, so it's his 10th year in the world tour. So I think he was, he was actually teammates with, with Al-Philippe, young Al-A-Philippe. Yeah, was teammates with Enric Mas on Young Constancia, I think, if I'm not mistaken. And then he must have been teammates. next year on quick step right quick step yeah yeah yeah wait no no no no ala philippe he was he was a world

tour pro all the way going all the way back to 2014 okay but they were together on quick step they work together yeah yes and i mean i'm just trying to think off the time i head i don't want to put in ergmas in a box maybe he comes back and wins this race next year but let's say he wins one grand tour ever in his career. You'd have to say that's a huge success, right? Spencer, listen, it's something, I'm believe, look today, by coincidence, I got sent a picture of the podium of the Vuelta in 95. I finished on the podium.

I saw the picture. I was proud about it. I posted it on social media. I'm still proud of it. It's a huge accomplishment. So, you know, and that's just third place. So, I mean, if you, like, ending must three times second. in the Volta, not winning it.

It's amazing. There's not that many riders who are able to do that in, you know, in the history of cycling. So huge accomplishment. Even if, even if Eric Mas now doesn't win any races anymore, he has reached, I think,

the maximum of his potential. It's amazing. So, yeah, congratulations to him. Many congratulations. You don't see, actually, not a lot of room for you don't see a one-off grand tour winners that much the last one

was sept coups was just assumed maybe he'll win another one we don't know the one before that do you want to guess it's gonna blow your side oh oscar perero oscar per no no no no no no no ramco okay okay okay okay and then jai henley and tayo gaiganhart you know it's like not yeah it's not and rich richardt is in that club. Probably Yeah, it's a carapas. Won a grand tour was second and the other and another one was third in the tour de France.

So, you know, he's, and he's still there today, fourth. Yeah. And the thing about Richard Carapas, he's not even really a key. He finishes high up, but he's not even real. I don't even know if he knows the GC exists. Well, what? What do you mean? He has been racing for GC a few years ago.

He was, he was good at it. You know, he won the G-Ro, and he was, second in the Giro. He won that, if you think about that, he won that Gero with the bombastic attacks. You know, he's always been... You know which team he was on, right? Movie Star.

Movie Star, yeah. And then he should probably should have won the next year. That was the most in a fish tank, Richard Carapaz we've seen. That's when Hindley won. No, no.

So, so Carapaz wins the Gero in 2019, and then 2020 Valta, he should have won it. Primos wins it on time bonuses. Should have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Like he, he rode the course faster than Primos Roglich and then Roglitz won on time bonuses. 2020, Zero was won by Teo Geigenhardt. Pretty mind-blown I think about with like a crazy third we come back. But no, I think, I think if Moss never wins anything else in his career, this is fantastic. Like you said, he's a big guy.

Spanish guy, movie star. you know, it's, it's a big celebration. That's it. But having said that, I like, you know, this is a kind of a once in a lifetime opportunity coming up because world championships probably won't win world championships. So for being honest, but. But I'm probably not. No pagachar. It is the, it is the most climbing monument. I wouldn't rule them out for that. No, no, no, no, for sure not. But, you know, there's going to be other candidates also. So it's going to be a more open race.

But, yeah, he will definitely be a candidate there if he can now keep the focus. Now, I think the difference, I mean, the difficulty is also now, okay, you're in super shape. You need to compress a bit, but not too much because you have the world championships is in another continent. So that's going to create some fatigue. And then the question is, how are you coming back from that, right? at some point it ends somewhere. The resources are not limitless physically.

So we'll see what happens with the riders who come out of the VELTA, go to the world, and then when they come back on the European continent, it may be another story. But yeah, he doesn't really matter. He won the Vuelta. He doesn't need to win anything anymore this season. Just fly in morning of the event and then fly back. back that night.

Your body won't even know you were there. I'd assume he's Movis stars number one G.C. leader next year, right? The only other one they would have is Uterbrooks. Yeah, the other one is Iterbrooks. I don't see another big signing coming up or anything. I don't think they signed anybody for DC. Yeah, I think I think that's, yeah, he's definitely their GC rider. And I'll go to the tour, I assume, in 2017.

27. Will he want to? You know, he's tried a few times. But now he tried the Giro. He's tried the Vuelta. It has worked in the past already for him tour and Vuelta also. I thought this should really benefited not from not doing the tour. It's not an easy combination, though.

It's not an easy combination tour in Vuelta. I mean, the best is Giro Velta. That's the best. Well, just look at this race. Who's the first rider that did the tour? Carapaz, right? Enforced. Carapas, yeah. Coos.

In the top ten, it's Carapaz, Kus. Is that it? What about Clamont? No, that might be it. Holy smokes. Mm-hmm. You know who's good? Who never gets talked about?

Christian Rodriguez on XTS Astana. Yeah, very good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he goes. Yeah. Yeah, he's a good writer. He moves to Bahrain.

I think he leaves Astana to Bahrain. Oh, he just going to Barreux. rain. And then in terms of races we have coming up, we have tour of Luxembourg starting on Wednesday or Tuesday, Tuesday or Wednesday with Matthew Vanderpull. And then he'll do that, finish it and then go to Canada for world championships. Yeah. Yeah. And so yeah, it's going to be tour of Luxembourg. We have, I believe, Giro del Abruzzo, also happening this week. And then all eyes turn to the world championships. We'll be back on Friday to talk about about anything that's happened between now and then and then preview the time trial world championships,

which are next week, next Sunday, you can believe it. Yeah. Okay. And then we have Lombardia. What had before we leave you on, I was thinking about this. I'm not hoping this happens. We will see it at some point. A pagachar-esque crash will happen on the final day to a leader.

What do they do? That's it. You think crash? yeah I mean no they're not going to I mean if you if it's neutralized

before the stage then yeah but they're not going to neutralize the course if the leader crashes during the stage and yeah that's it it's part of the race

even if they neutralize the time gaps do you have to finish the stage to trigger the time? I would have to check the rules probably you have to finish the stage I think I was just thinking about it

with you know because movie said they look fantastic they got the red like the red kits on you're like just hope nothing happens and then this and then and then and then and then and then this celebration like oh hands you know no hands everybody that I know um yeah it was nice it was nice to see I mean I loved the I love the the the white uniform with the red logo it was beautiful it was it looked incredible I mean yeah and it was yeah I was like emotional about I mean that is it's big big for a movie star big for Tobias Holland Yohansson, the stage winner.

It was just, yeah. Yeah, it is like it was, it was like an oddly emotional grand tour for me. Pagotcha crashing out, seeing who would have? By the way, I guess, did you see, did you see the news that Pogachar is actually going to Canada?

Do you see that? No, but why is he going? He's going to Canada to support his wife or girlfriend, Utska, and then to support the Slovenian team. So he goes as a tourist to support the Slovenian team. Pretty cool. well she just broke her jaw again today so i don't oh she might not be racing okay but if she doesn't okay oh she crashed uh okay because she did crash heavily i think in the tour of switzerland if i'm

mistaken before the two of us yeah to her switzerland yeah yeah and so okay so if she's not going then he probably won't go okay i didn't know that but i guess that would have made sense if she was racing then he would go can you i mean he would have been like handing up bottles in the feed zone how cool would that have been. Probably. Probably with like a funky, a funky hat on like that. Like we saw him for sure to the France farm. Yeah. Still collecting that that check from the Montreal, uh, from the Quebec tourism authority, certainly. But yeah, thanks Johan. Anything else before we take off? No, let's uh,

we'll see each other on Friday. I will be reporting on Friday from Belgium because I'm, I'm leaving to Belgium for two and a half weeks. Uh, during this week and so uh i'll be i'll be reporting from there all right we'll have a good trip good luck with the uh bobby transport his first international trip yes yes yes yes and thank you for my son my son is doing some races there he does five one-day races uh to finish off the season so i'm excited to see that that's fun i mean to the roots to the roots of cycling that's where you learn yeah the off the the the job and logistically it's just such a good place to race. You know, everything's so close together. So close. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Incredible.

Yeah. All right. Well, and thanks to everyone for listening throughout this, throughout this Welta. It's felt, we've felt taxed. I can only imagine what the writers feel like. And I am, I'm excited for a few days off before we gear up for the world championships. But we'll talk soon, Johan, and have a good trip to Belgium. Okay, thanks. Okay, bye.