THEMOVE - It’s a wrap ft. Johan Bruyneel | Tour De France 2024 Stage 21 | THEMOVE

Episode Date: July 21, 2024

A historic Tour de France with many great story lines: 3rd win for Pogacar, Eritrean rider, Girmay, wins three stages, Equador with first polka dot jersey with Carapaz and numerous climbing records surpassed. KETONE-IQ: 30% off your first sub order + free 6 pack when you use the link: https://www.ketone.com/themove ZWIFT: Zwift Ride was just released and at $1299.99 is a fraction of the cost of other alternatives, so make sure you head to Zwift.com to pick yours up ASAP.  Zwift is also hosting THEMOVE Podcast rides throughout the Tour de France, so you can stay up to date with the conversation whilst getting in an easy-paced spin with other riders from all over the world. Join those rides at: https://www.zwift.com/events/tag/themove EKOI: Use the code THEMOVE to get $15 off any purchase of $150 made on the EKOI website until the end of July. Visit https://www.ekoi.com AG1: Try AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase at https://www.drinkAG1.com/tdf ROKA: THEMOVE listeners get 20% off. Just go to https://www.ROKA.com and enter code THEMOVE at checkout. THE FEED: Get the Tour de France Pack. There are 11 products for $21. It's about 50% off and you get a Feed musette bag and a limited tour bottle Go to https://www.TheFeed.com Ventum: Listeners of The Move can save 20% off any Ventum bike using code TheMove20. Compete to win a Ventum NS1 road bike by playing Tour Trivia all race long — visit https://www.ventumracing.com/TheMove to answer today's question. Winner will be announced at the end of the Tour.

I mean all the all the records are being broken all the records every single big climb the records have been broken not just by the first guy sometimes by the first three sometimes even by the first seven eight I think it's something we'll keep seeing uh everything's gotten better stiffer faster all right everybody welcome back to the Move podcast. That's it, folks. Stage 21. We will not be here tomorrow.

But as I've said for the last three weeks, today's show brought to you by Keto and IQ. What a fantastic performance. I mean, Tadej Boguchar, improved. I mean, I always love time trials. There's a lot of ways to look at them, a lot of ways to describe them. My favorite was always the race of truth. And if you're wearing the yellow jersey, you should represent the yellow jersey. And he did it seemingly with one leg, one by over a minute.

Took a lot of risks, which they all did. The other cool thing about today's time trial is the top three on the podium were the top three in the time trial, which I think probably speaks to how hard the time trial was. Yeah. And just off the podium in the time trial, honorable mention to our good friend, Mateo Jorgensen with the crash finishes fourth after doing a whole boatload of work the last week, I love this kid. We all love him.

Keep an eye out for him. So I should also say, sorry, George, we have Johan Bernil on the show today. The sensei's on. The sensei. Very similar. Well, start of 2009 Tour de France was right there in Monaco. So it brought back memories. You were there.

I was there. in Monaco. So it brought back memories. You were there. I was there. A very cool setting. I mean, one of the most picturesque settings for a start of a time trial in the entire world. A lot of these guys live right there. Pogacar lives there. Home roads. He was waving to his fans the whole way, or family, I'm sure. Jürgen Simmel is right there in Nice.

So I'm sure they've done the course a bunch of times and have it memorized in their head. And it looked slick. I mean, these guys were sliding out and wondering why would a public driver be taking these risks. But I don't think we understand cycling like we did in the past. These guys are always in for the win and very exciting stage to watch. I mean, if you were in that position leading in yellow ahead five minutes, you'd have gone full gas. 100%. Right.

And I would have taken risk and it would have you would i would have taken corners where people sitting at home i don't know johan would not have let you take risk well cadillac when he won 2011 uh time trial was i think where was that uh johan geneva or somewhere he was leading and then it was a kind of a dicey run into the the town and uh the director was like, OK, we got to take it easy on these corners. You've won the Tour de France and almost purposely lost the stage just to stay safe. Why would you risk that when you're after three weeks of racing? Yeah, we'll get into all the action.

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Tadej Pogacar never lost control for three weeks I thought it was an interesting tour I loved the finish it was beautiful starting in Monaco finishing in Nice I thought the podium. It was beautiful starting in Monaco, finishing in Nice. I thought the podium, I thought it showed well. I'll be happy to go back to Paris.

You just can't replace that. Yeah, it was a weird sort of, I mean, beautiful, but just different. It had to happen, obviously, with the Olympics. Yeah, the bummer you don't get to have is sort of the honor rides. I don't know what the term is for him, but the guys that are retiring, the team getting to go to the front and then they start racing in Paris. Like that's pretty epic. Yeah.

They did focus a lot on those guys that are retiring. Mark Cavendish, Roman Bardet in the TT. These guys just had a fun ride. And I know I said it a couple of days ago, I rode with Mark in Monaco to Nice back in September. And he was just thinking if he won a stage, he wasn't going to make it there. And it was just awesome to see him be able to enjoy that time draw with his whole family there, all of his fans. Just what an amazing career he's had.

And I think, I don't think, I know the whole sport is going to be sad to see him oh he just announced he's going to do one more year no i was gonna say no no way you missed the other press announcement of somebody saying they were not going to do one more year uh which was just breaking news right before we came on the show uh president joe biden no uh will not run again. So you got a little off there, JB. But I had George for a second there. You did. Because he just said he's definitely not coming back.

I got that new Chinese sponsor. OK. We don't know yet. It was on paper. Yeah. A little paper. But I bet he's glad he fit. It was cool seeing him up there.

Tony Parker gave him, I thought, a really cool jersey. They made a play on his name. It was the CAXXX and the V. It's one of those things where you're just grinding that last week out. Like, can I go home now? But then you get there and you're like, all right, I don't ever have to do this again. That was very special. Think about how many days Kevin just started with his teammates off the back.

Just from the get-go. And good guys like Tejada and all these people, they were staying with him in the mountains, just making sure he was safe and sound. But, I mean, going back to his year, he might have been home 10 days this whole season. I mean, started off in Columbia for a month, went straight from Columbia, I think home for a day and a half to London, flew to UAE, raced there.

I mean, he's gone to altitude camps. The guy has put in so much work to accomplish what he did. I know a lot of people just see the glamour of the Tour de France, but we all understand what goes into it. And, I mean, he's had an incredible, incredible run, but he's worked his ass off to get it. Yeah. Yeah. Sir Mark Cavendish.

Yep. And, and to, um, I've just, I just spaced his name, the French guy who on the stage. Roman Bardet. Bardet. I mean, it was good for, I mean, he was having a good old time too. Yep. Um, and, and, and as the ad said, 35 ish years since Greg LeMond went on the Champs-Élysées.

Yeah, it's like here. I think it's part and parcel to Nice just not being able to accommodate a hectic sort of, to your point, JB, of like a procession. Like, yes, you have the main beachfront road, the Promenade des Anglais. It'd be hard to do that type of stage on the Promenade des Anglais. You think? It's just a lot tight. I mean, it'd be tight. It'd be hard, I think.

I mean, they could go out and back. It'd be pretty cool to see. It'd be fun. The sprint stage is definitely flat and probably easier than the Champs-Élysées. No cobblestones, all that stuff. I wonder if they'd want to go back there because based on this year, they'll do that. I thought the tour did a great job creating the route.

The 200 humans who were in the race did everything they could. The race just got hard. I mean, if you look at the race, we talked about it in October, and we talked about it in the preview show here. If you looked at those last three or four days, you're, wow, this is going to be dynamic. It just wasn't because guys, you know, Pogacar had established his lead.

People are just tired. I mean, again, keep in mind, these are humans, not robots. They did a good job with those hard days before the rest day and then an easy day after the rest day. The runners seemed to like that. Yes, they appreciate those. And they all knew the course quite well. I'm sure they were maybe trying to save a little bit in the tank

for those last four days. But like Lance said, there wasn't much of a change at all in the overall classification. But it was still fun to watch a guy like Carapaz getting so aggressive getting all the breakaways winning the mountain jersey um it was it was still very exciting tough racing oh and and i mean come on we got to give a special shout out to santiago butrago yeah colombia touched on it yesterday i mean i know it's the flag right here on my sleeve may seem weird or to talk about a race for 10th place but it is it's a thing especially if you're on a team that doesn't have a stage win uh that has a fairly

large budget they certainly come in with the goal of of finishing in the putting a rider in the top 10 and he we talked about it yesterday between him and chikoni and apparently johan you know more about this but chikoni went for the bike change, which George was speculating on whether or not folks would do that. Didn't go so well. So he lost that spot and he doesn't finish in the top 10. But I don't know if it was a mechanical, Johan, or just a bike change that went wrong. It was planned. It was planned.

So the plan was he would do the first part on his uh his light bike with the tri bars um but if you look i mean the time it didn't change anything because he was already two minutes behind uh on the top of the climb on the light bike yes oh yeah so he did he didn't have a good day he just kept going on that bike and most of those climbs johan were pretty fairly gradual correct me if i'm wrong except for that one little schnock about halfway which is quite steep when i rode it back in may when i was there and it's probably like 10 12 so i was actually kind of wondering if most of the guys were going to change but only a few handful of people actually changed bikes yeah and you have to you know nowadays the time trial bikes are so light nowadays you know they spend so much time on it also that you could see i mean especially in the downhill you could say well you know old-fashioned thinking would be you know uphill it's lighter downhill it's safer on a normal

bike but you know they ride these bikes so much and we could see you know during the whole tour basically uh that uh all the guys behind the podium, when they were cooling down, they were on their time trial bikes specifically because they want to have more time on it. So, uh, if you look at Pogacar's bike, for example, you know, you could say, you could have said, well, why didn't they do a yellow time trial bike, but you know, to keep it as light. So he, he writes a bike with no paint, uh, to keep it as light as possible. 300 grams he saves.

So, well, that, I mean, you even it out with the watch. That's true. Yo, and here's a serious question. Do you not listen to our show? Sometimes. You didn't listen to yesterday's. Why? What did you say?

We were talking about this, about how them, I think it's funny uh okay you know you're right cooling down uh on their time trial bikes just to just to keep that you know what it feels like to be on that bike because it is it's totally different didn't matter but i thought it was i did think it was great um also you on i i'd love your thoughts on just the strength of team uae obviouslyar, the best rider in the race. You saw his team supporting him throughout the race. But if you just look at the final GC, three riders in the top six. Yeah. Yeah.

But let's not forget, guys, you know, both Almeida and Adam Yates are already podium in Grand Tours. Right, right. Almeida and Adam Yates are already podium on, in ground tours, you know, they, but still they're supporting and it's, it's, you know, he has podium guys supporting him. So, uh, first, fourth and sixth, I think, I mean, it's, it's, it's a great result. Um, and it also, in all the mountain stages, especially the last three mountain stages, it was clear that they were so dominant compared to their biggest rival uh visma um so yeah i mean there was basically nothing i mean he has the strongest team and he was the best rider so what can you do you know six stage wins winning the tour with more than six minutes on the second and the six minutes are

i think you know he could have had seven or eight if he would have pushed it all the way sometimes. So Johan, what happens now between, it seems as though a UAE started following a lot of the protocols that Visma Lisa Bike had, whether it was feeding along the road or really focusing on nutrition. Does now Visma Lisa Bike start trying to copy some of what UAE is doing? Like, for instance, the new trainer of Pogacar. I mean, what do you, what do you think is going to happen moving forward until next year's Tour de France? But this is, this is, you know, in the transfer market, it's also going to be,

it becomes more and more also a competition to hire the staff to hire each other stuff, which, you know, is now where all the knowledge is and uh i'm gonna guess i mean i i'm gonna guess that the uae guys they have all their key stuff locked in for multi multi-year deals and really good salaries uh but it's you know it's gonna come down to this also uh you know what do they know that we don't know what do do they do differently that we don't? And then try to, you know, either hire a writer from there or, but that's not new. I mean, it has happened all the time.

Yeah. I love that. That's Formula One-esque, right? The second most valuable person in the sport of Formula One is this, I don't know what, even what you call him, an engineer or an aerodynamicist, a designer, this guy for Red Bull. You talk about making paper. He's leaving the team. I love

that. I never would have thought we'd come to that, but that's great. It'll be nice while Johan's on with this. We touched on it earlier this week, but Remco's performance. First Tour de France, a lot of doubts.

He came in leaner. He was right there. He leaves with the podium. I'm sure he is thrilled. But Johan can elaborate on how brutal the Belgian media has been on this kid forever. And they're not. Still? Not now.

I hope they're not right now. No, no, no. You guys were kind of rough on him as well in our preview show we didn't rip him we we questioned whether or not he is the type of rider who can win the tour to france we've seen him win grand tours this the tour is different than any other grand tour johan before you before you jump on um i and i'm going to point something out i'm gonna go go ahead and call it out. I think out of that podium, Remco has the most room to improve in terms of his age, the confidence he built up in these three weeks, the potential rumors of him maybe strengthening his Tour de France team or going to a different team.

I'd say out of those three, he's got the most potential for improvement. Johan, what do you think? Yeah, and also I'm going to add to that, George, i think that the tour de france of the three grand tours is the one that suits him the best because the tour of spain and tour of italy have steeper climbs the tour has long climbs and that's ideal for for ramco and we've seen this you know i mean anytime it was a long climb he took he took his own pace and he could basically, you know, limit the losses. I did not expect him to be on the podium. I said, I think we said before the tour, you know,

he should go for top five. That would be great. You know, we could argue what would happen if Roglic was still in there. They were kind of, you know, evenly matched, I think. But anyways, you know, I i think but but anyways you know i think this for the growth of ramco both physically and mentally uh it's been it's been a great three weeks and uh you know belgium is on fire for what he did he had a great uh support um network with his team i mean i thought his team wrote solid is there any the little validity to him leaving the team and going to Red Bull or is that all rumors? That was a rumor that was

About two weeks ago. I think in one of the Belgian newspapers there were there were talks about him leaving There's been rumors that he wanted to leave. I mean, you know how this goes. I mean now everything worked out really well They're super happy The sponsors are gonna to be excited. Maybe they get an extra budget to hire two more riders. And this is what the Tour de France does, right, if you have success. So I don't know. I think the team support of Sudol Quickstep was amazing for him.

And by the way, Sudol Quickstep, two riders in the top five. Yeah. Mikel Landa, agreed. And by the way, by the way, Sudol Quickstep, two riders in the top five. Yeah. Mikel Landa, fifth. Yeah. The guy you didn't see a whole lot of, but just kind of stayed there and didn't lose time. Two in the top five is Shepard. But the few times that he was needed for Remco, he was there.

Ah. You know, he did some good pacing, but, you know, I mean, if you're in fifth, that means that whenever you're there, there's only six or seven riders left so whenever he needed to he's done that so um what i've heard is that lambda has been a major part in remco's development through this tour de france also also also like you know giving him advice off the bike and lambda has done a lot of big tours so he knows how to how to ride so um now i think ramco cannot complain about uh his team support uh both on and off the bike so i

don't know um i think it's gonna it's gonna come down to what you guys always say gonna come down to the paper hey show me the paper uh michael landa 34 years old far and away the oldest guy on the on the on the in the top 10 uh remco 24 years old i did the same math that i did last year i i looked at the ages of everybody in the top 10 and i totaled that and then i divided it by 10 see what i did there uh the average age of the top, this just shows you how the sport has changed. The average age, and we're factoring in a 34-year-old Mikel Landa and a 31-year-old Yates. The average age is 26.4. I mean, that's just, when we raced, it was like, no, no, you're way too young to ride the Tour.

You're way too young to compete in the Tour. You got to be late 20s, early 30s. 26.4. Yeah, young, young. Yeah, and speaking of young. By the way, Rodriguez, 23 years old. 23. Jorgensen's what, 24?

Jorgensen is 25. To finish eighth place in the Tour de France. Yes, a lot of these guys had to, Landa had to work for Evan Poole. Yates had to work for Pogacar. Almedanda had to work for Evan Poole Yates had to work for Pogacar Almedia had to work for Pogacar but none of those guys really had to work as much as Jurgensen Jurgensen is a class not only is he a climber a time trial specialist but he's also a classic rider so they relied on Jurgensen a lot in these like flat stages early on we saw it in

the first couple stages he was doing some of the grunt work pulling for Wild Van Aert for the sprints Johan would you agree in the top 10 he probably did the most amount of stages, he was doing some of the grunt work, pulling for Wild Van R for the sprints. Johan, would you agree in the top 10, he probably did the most amount of work out of anybody. And without that amount of work, he probably could have potentially been several spots further up in the top 10. No doubt about it. I mean, and you can see, George, the last two stages. Yesterday, he was with the top, with the best five climbers of the tour. Yeah. And one of the hardest stages

and today he finishes fourth in the time trial with a crash with a crash yeah so um yeah um great great tour from jorgensen um and he's going to be one of the key players in the future for for visma also yep as long as he wears clothes next time he comes on the zoom here on the move that'd be better. If anybody talks to him, just – I'll add to that. He did a lot of press. He made himself available probably because his NBC U.S. audience,

but every – Also, JB. Also, he did – I saw a really good interview he did with our colleague from La Movida, Victor Ugo Peña, in perfect Spanish. Oh, really? Excellent Spanish. Exactly. Yeah, excellent Spanish.

He's winning some fans. He speaks French, too. Yeah, sure. All right. What's up with this kid? Now we got three languages, super likable, fucking rocking up on the Zoom naked. Like, I mean, working all tour, finishing eighth, winning races early in the season. You know, Mateo, that's enough.

Okay. And is he doing the Olympic time trial? Johan, do we know? finish in eighth, winning races early in the season. You know, Mateo, that's enough. Okay? And is he doing the Olympic time trial, Johan, do we know? I thought they said he's doing both. He's doing both. Or maybe they were, what was that? I thought I heard them talk about that. Yeah, I just asked them, but I haven't heard it back. Let's do a little bit of business.

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They look totally badass. They have a ton of iconic styles. The Move listeners get 20% off. Just go to Roka, R-O-K-A dot com, and use the code THEMOVE at checkout. George, put your Rokas on for a second. Which ones? Shades? No, where's those orange ones?

Yeah, look at this guy. Look at this man. I don't. I don't. It's just a serious question. No, where's those orange ones? Yeah, look at this guy. Look at this man. I don't. I don't. How would you? It's just a serious question. How would anybody like to sit here for three weeks with a man like that on the set? I mean, JB, you can help me.

I mean, Johan sees it, too. Johan. We're screwed. He like blends the frame lighting into his watch. He just walks around town. This is the way he walks around one of the bougiest towns in the world in the summer this man walks around like that a lot of correlation huh by myself i might add because you never hung out with me this whole month so you know i was too busy for the first two weeks walking around the house picking up all your shit you

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I wanted all those ideas, just like I wanted this idea. I agreed. I thought you are. I know you get sick of eating the same stuff. Look, the boys are done with the tour. They don't have to eat the same food anymore. They can go home and eat whatever they want. Yeah, I mean, I got some of my favorites.

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And plus you get the free mizet bag and a limited tour bottle. Head on over to thefeed.com. You'll see it all right there on the website, thefeed.com. So I was going to mention, Jurgensen is not on the Olympic time trial list. Just the road race. Brandon McNulty, who is also an American superstar, and Magnus Sheffield are doing the time trial and the road race which we were surprised that mcnulty wasn't selected for uae i still don't know yeah what's behind that but agreed he's great great rider we got a good team

yeah for the olympics we do and you rode the course right i did well well the no i didn't ride the course i'll tell you when johan it. Can I finish? Finish. The race is like 180 miles. So no, I did not ride the course, but I rode the finish. And it's going to be interesting. 180 miles. It's like 170, 280 K. Oh, 280 K. Yes.

Yeah, it's going to be an interesting race. Before I forget, we've got a special guest coming on too at the end of the show. We touched on it yesterday. Dia and his hair are coming on from Ventum to announce our winner. From all these days of Ventum trivia, free bikes. Come on. Who doesn't like free shit? I know George. George.

Well, I do know who likes free shit. George. This man likes free stuff more than anybody I've ever known says the guy that I can't even walk into his front door because of all the boxes piled up from free shit showing up at his house just ask Anna you know what

we can skip all the free shit if one of you friends of George gets me on Augusta when he's there next week we'll be there Wednesday I know it's short notice if you gets me on Augusta when he's there next week. We'll be there next week. And I know it's short notice. If you get me on Augusta,

I don't know if I'm staying 500 yards yesterday. You could say 500 miles. I don't mind. So I know there was some interest. There was some feelers out there. I will be at nationals. I mean, if he gets on the court,

of course, someone emailed it, it might be under repair right now. So check into that. It is veryals. I mean, if he gets on the course. Someone emailed it. It might be under repair right now, so check into that. It is very seasonal. Yeah. Just let me go hack around. I'll hit around the bulldozers. It's cool.

Well, there was a lot of historic stuff in this tour, including Binyam Girmay. We have to give some love there. Such a great story. Philipson, you know, was coming in, was a clear favorite. Nobody mentioned Binyan Girmay to win the green jersey. He had an off year last year. So three wins, and that's huge. And Richard Carapaz, the first Ecuadorian to win a stage in the tour and win the...

This is a year of... There's a lot of history going on. You had Cav, you had gourmet, you had carapace, you know, the sport is, is expanding and truly, truly globalizing. And I think that's great to see. Does a guy like gourmet stay with into Marche or he has two more years, two more years.

He has contract. He has a contract. Now I do. I read something that they're having problems with their budget because of the bonuses oh really that's a good problem to have yeah well i mean yeah you have to have the money to pay the bonuses so uh i don't know i mean listen uh his his agent is alex carrera yeah uh he's very smart guy. Forever. Well-connected. He's been known to switch riders around from teams. So, I don't know.

I think he should stay. I think he should stay because he has the team at his complete disposal. Although, I have to say, I found out the other day that their initial plan was actually not to sprint for Binyam Girmay. Yeah. If you remember the first sprint stage, there was another guy who then later on dropped out, a Belgian guy, Gerben Taysen. He was supposed to be the sprinter.

Makes no sense to me, but that was their plan. Bingham also mentioned that he changed trainers as well and started doing a whole different training protocol, which he has attributed to a lot of success. We're seeing these guys that are having breakthrough performances. A lot of it is the trainers that they're using, which is super interesting. According to Pro Cycling Stats, he's got two more years left on this contract. Obviously, if the team can't pay the bonuses that are in the contract,

that's probably some sort of default or some sort of way out Alex Square has been around the game a long time it's got a lot of big riders he knows how to play and speaking of teams Johan is in the history of team in EOS guy all that have they never have they ever done a tour without winning a stage I don't know we've done some we've done a little bit the The last few years, they've always won a stage. Um, and I think last year was one of their least successful tours. They were fifth with Carlos Rodriguez and they won one stage. Um, before that they were always on the podium, at least, uh, one multiple stages. So, uh, I think there's going to be some serious discussions there

uh coming from the top from radcliffe himself yeah we'll want to have uh you know maybe a shuffle in the management and uh radcliffe took dave brailsford and took him over to manchester united uh which plays this silly little game called soccer. But don't be surprised. I mean, say what you will about Dave Brailsford. I mean, the records and the results speak for themselves. I'll just remind everybody, this team's spending $40, $50 million a year. And that just go down the list of results, certainly in the tour. And you're like, huh, that doesn't feel like a great deal.

Yeah, they have to figure something out let's just yeah i think there were other teams too that walk away seriously disappointed yeah johan do you want to give us some kind of overarching thoughts about all these shattered records that was a big storyline from this tour. Times-wise? Times, yeah, up these climbs, just blown out by minutes. I mean, all the records are being broken, all the records. Every single big climb, the records have been broken, not just by the first guy, sometimes by the first three, sometimes even by the first seven, eight. I think it's something we'll keep seeing.

Everything's gotten better, stiffer, faster. Um, so yeah, I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not really surprised that I would, I would need to check the overall speed if it's the fastest tour ever. I don't know, but probably not because there was so much, well, there was, there was a 10,000 meters more climbing than last year. So that tends to slow things down. Yeah. Um, this is our average speed. But I mean, I think we would have heard about it

before the time trial already that it would have been, would it be the fastest tour ever? But I mean, it's just, the whole peloton is just on such a high level. And you can, a lot of these guys, for example, Romain Bardet today said, you know, the numbers he put out in this tour would have been for sure a top five,

five, six, seven years ago, and maybe a podium. He's not even in the top 20. So, you know, it's, yeah. Another big storyline was the Giro Tour double. And then you guys are talking about Triple Crown. Explain that. Well, and if you're Tadej Pogacar, it could be, we did talk about the Triple Crown in the pre-show, which is.

And it's not the Vuelta. No, it's the Giro. Now that would be something the sport could think about in the future, but the Giro Tour World Championships, which of course has not been done since 1987 with Steven Roach. But this year you have this unique opportunity to, and yes, I did see the, I mean, this is a circuit in Paris. While not terribly hard, it's technical, it's tough, right?

This could be the year of the quadruple crown, right? It'd be hard to bet against Tadej Pogacar to go Giro Tour Olympic gold world championships. You know, that's something. Johan, you said the world's course. I haven't peeped the world championships course in Zurich, but I know those parts. Over 4,000 meters of climbing. And a classic in the same year.

Yeah. It's just. Yeah. So it's, it's, he's only got a couple of weeks. I don't know if he's doing the time trial in Paris. I'll certainly forgive him if he doesn't. But he's got a couple of weeks until the road race and then probably a month or so until the Worlds.

But he could win those two as well. I think the way he sounded in his post-race interview, I think he has his eyes set on the worlds and at the times that he's spoken about his goals he's gotten all right now so yeah let's let's not forget the olympics is a much different race in the world championships i mean they only have totally two or three guys on each team or maybe four four guys so in a race of that distance almost impossible for one team to control that so just the tactics are completely different than a race like the world championships but at the same time very exciting to watch i'm looking forward to

watching that i mean it's super exciting yeah you've got 90 i think it's 90 riders on the start line yeah again sports are limited on how many folks could say well why wouldn't there be 200 riders on the start line? Even if you have to allow all the countries that are certainly not powerhouses in cycling, sports are limited on how many athletes they can bring to the Olympic Games. So it's going to be a very small field. It's a very long race. Yes. Most any country can have per team is four riders.

Some countries will have one rider. Yeah. So you never know. I mean, it's a bit of a crap shoot but uh that's when that's when it kind of gets fun because teams start to come together countries start to come together and form in these bonds and alliances and you know figure out that they have to work together uh but anyways we'll see in a couple weeks yeah and the fact that there's not many riders at the start is also, it's going to make it a very individual race and it's going to be the strongest guys automatically. You know what I mean? Lance, you've seen part of the course,

you know, this is on the pool terrain, well, on our terrain, but Pogacar will be there too, for sure. You know, basically his tactics should be very easy. He just follows those two guys. Yeah. And the weather. I mean, if if if it is a wet day rainy day in paris that that those final circuits that johan and i went and saw will be treacherous cobblestones city streets but also the heat i mean if it's hot in a city it can's going to be very, very hard in the end. And good news for the open water swimmers and the triathletes and all these people that are going to swim around in the Seine.

The mayor, she swam, she took a dip in the Seine a couple weeks ago, and she's fine, apparently. I mean, I am not getting in the Seine, I'm just saying. But she was cruising and she swam in there. I thought it was interesting. Yeah. It was a big deal. Like, is she going to jump in or not?

Well, there's always, aren't they like dying it for the opening ceremony or something? I thought I read that. It's going to be some wild. It could be some other thing. It could be pretty spectacular. That's always the same thing in Austin. Like don't swim in this river. Oh, we have a couple of triathlons a year.

Yeah. It makes no sense. Yeah. I went, I did the, boy, we're really going down the rabbit hole. I did the Half Ironman outside of Orlando. It's called Haines City. Some call it Haines shitty. But anyways, we swam in this little lake that had a couple things.

One, I heard that sometimes there's alligators in there. I was like, huh, I don't know about that. And then like a week later, the EPA condemned the little lake we swam in. I'm like, gosh, we should probably find a different pond to go in. Anyways. Do we need a break for deer? We're just going to go straight in. We can go straight in.

We usually have to break, but when we have the VVIPs, we don't break. We just go straight in roll right in dear man dear guys look at this man i'm so happy to be back all right that's like uh that's like uh gene simmons i've just figured this out you are a gene simmons doppelganger really do you know who that is yeah yeah i'm older than you think that's good to see you how long How long did you put your tongue out? I'm not so sure you're not jinxing. I swear I do.

Last time we saw each other, Mallorca. You guys killed us. We didn't want to see you after Mallorca. No, I don't know. We had a team race up Sacalobra. We did. I think George remembers how that went. I lined up with Poppy and you and Lance.

You ended up winning. You ended up winning. You went home in a jizzy and I did like easy jack. and lance you ended up winning so you ended up winning you went home in a jizzy and i did like easy jack so you probably ended up winning but it was a fun time and lance is probably three times the size and muscle the last time i saw you like literally i couldn't believe at the gym i saw him i was like who are you oh no amazing yoked on us yeah hey before we draw the the winner and a lot of you entered, so we're going to get to that in a second.

A couple things, though. Like just some Ventum updates, because you guys have rolled out the new e-gravel. Yeah, we've done a lot. New bike, ES1. Guess who named that? Yep, right here on the show. Right there. Right there. It was truly.

Yeah, yeah. It was such a stretch from the NS1 to the GS1. He really gave us no choice, right? Mark and he was like, yeah, that's it, ES1. So that's an e-adventure bike, and it's been really, really fun. I'll be honest with you. I was a little hesitant about e-bikes in the beginning, and now I fully – it's a different theory.

The way we use it is to go further, right? So if you were going to go do like a 60-mile normal acoustic ride, this would get you to go to 100, 100 plus, get the same workout. And you could also commute with it. So I've turned my point of view on it. I actually really, really like it. And I can ride with George too, side by side. I think those days are done.

And George will need one in the future to ride with his son. We have one at the house. It's Melanie's bike. It ain't long before you need an e-bike to hang with Zoe. I know. I'm serious.

I think it's like six months away. He's got nationals this week. That's right. No. Thursday is the time trial. Thursday morning, Friday is the road race, and Sunday is the crit. I mean, you don't have to look far to see the news and sort of the reports on the cycling industry.

And we had this huge growth curve during COVID. Everybody seemingly bought a bike. And then the industry has sort of struggled to adjust to that. I mean, it was great to have all these sales during COVID. You guys have managed to sort of sail through it, as you were telling me. But you were also mentioning this new little rollout that I thought. Yeah, yeah. Because up until now, Ventum's have been direct to consumer only.

But you snuck me a little intel when we were in the gym about a new initiative that I thought would be fun to tell people about. Yeah, we are actually going to go into dealers. We're going to be in about 100 markets in the next 18 months. And I'm going to jump on my soapbox and I'll tell you the why. I mean, this is something I've always wanted to do, but COVID really made us take a step back because of supply chain. But I wanted a program where dealers could order on demand whenever they want it, the right color, the right size, the right fit for the customer and with good margins. And I'm getting, and I get pretty passionate about this,

I'm getting more and more frustrated with the big boys because they shove down a lot of inventory on the IDBs, and they've been buying shops, right? And these guys have to take it, and they have two buying windows, and it's not necessarily what they do, and they stretch them so thin, right? And so I'm not happy about that. That is not a good business model. And it became so evident during COVID when you're just like you said, there was a supply chain shortage,

a huge knee jerk reaction from the big boys, super unsophisticated. And there's a glutton inventory. So their solution was let's push it down the dealers and the dealers either take it or you lose that brand. And so you so now all your cash is on the floor. So I'm saying that I'm like, you're not setting these people up for success. And now a lot of the big brands are, once they've dumped their inventory, they're not going direct to consumer. So these guys are going to be high and dry. And so I cannot think of a better time for us to get into these dealerships and the dealers and to do it in a way that's thoughtful, that keeps cash in their pocket and helps out. So we've always done things differently.

This is it. And guess who our first store was? Melo Giannis. That is right. Melo Giannis. You were talking about those small local bike dealers while I was like, I think I'm one of those. Yeah.

Well, you know, another one. We felt it. That's not a story that you just told or made up. I mean, you feel it, right? The bigs have, a lot of them have their own stores in some of these markets. And so we see the impact of that, but it's real. And can I tell you how some of these stores were acquired? A lot of these guys who got so much inventory couldn't pay for it,

so the big brands just took their stores. They literally handed the keys and changed the signage. So, you know, it's something I'm pretty upset over. Don't get me started. You know who else? The last dealer we just signed is Fast Track, Dave Letary. Oh, now we're talking Fast Track. He was in Mallorca with us.

I love Dave Letary. I did not love what he did to me on a bike a couple years ago in Santa Barbara. He was a sprinter when he was younger. I was like, I'm going to kill this guy. I hadn't been riding. He took me out and, I mean, beat my ass. I was like, oh, no. What happened?

I mean, he killed me. But I love his store in Santa Barbara. I love Santa Barbara, but I love his store in Santa Barbara Fast Track. So he signed up. He signed up. You're hitting all the hot spots. Santa Barbara, Austin, Texas, here in Aspen. We had our friends from Aspen X.

Yes, right. Which if you're in Aspen, go check it out. The display there is super nice. They've been taking great care of me this month on my custom bike, and I've been loving it. And then internationally, I can't believe I'm saying this, this is our 10th anniversary. Wow.

And so we're going to open an international flagship store in Dubai. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah. So that's opening this fall, and it's just this crazy concept store. You know what I say to that? You know what I say to that? Yalla. Yalla.

Well, funny you should say that. We might be going, aren't we? You get that jizzy lined up. Well, funny you guys should say that. You know I always bring gifts. Right? Last year I was at the tour. You got clean.

Yeah, three years as conditioner. Your hair's looking fantastic. Last year I was at the tour. Three years as a conditioner. Your hair looked fantastic. Two years ago it was cologne. Lance was pissed. You were very happy. I took his. I think you gave some of that cologne to Sir Bradley Wiggins. The house is not gone.

Whatever he was wearing for a week, it's not gone. He's a good man. I'm leveling up. No more cosmetics. The gift this year is I'm inviting you guys this fall to the UAE. Okay. We're going to go to Dubai and Abu Dhabi, and it's with the fam. So Mel and Anna, who are in studio right now, and the kids, we're all going.

Okay. All right. Jizzy. Jizzy. Maybe Yeezy on the golf. We could go for Formula One in Abu Dhabi. Yeah. We could zip line through high rises.

But that's the gift. I love this. I mean, the fact that you came on this show to give somebody a bicycle, which somebody was so excited about, now they're going to hear this and they're like, wait a minute. I just got screwed. The guy, he's just giving away a bike. Behind curtain number three.

He just gave these absolute morons a trip of a lifetime and all i get's a bike yeah i mean i want to i want to take my daughter wake surfing with your brother in dubai oh yeah the scene they're supposed to be unreal it's insane come on over yeah for sure we're gonna draw that name let's do it well the computer randomized it randomized oh hang on yeah well do you know what kind of egyptian stuff is this we gotta pull the shit out like pull it out of the marketing is in utah trust me though you sure i promise 15 000 people that's 15 000 55 000 questions answered nice and the winner i have her name right here is stacy hamblin Stacey. She's a good friend of mine.

No. From where? Wait, wait, wait. Stacey. So unfortunately, we don't know exactly from where, because she didn't put that down. But we have her email. Hang on. Stacey, if you're listening, write in real quick.

Stacey Hamblin. Yeah. H-A-M-B-L-I-N. Hamblin. Hamblin. Hamblin. Congratulations. You're the winner.

She has a brand new NS1. So yeah. Free bikes. Congratulations. You're the winner. She has a brand new NS1. So, yeah. Free bikes. Yeah. And for those who didn't win, the move 20, get 20% off. We'll let it run until, I don't know, August. Okay. Yeah.

Well, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. So, end of August, guys. Yeah. All right. Great. Celebrate the Olympics. Why not?

Why not? I like it. Nice. Amazing. Anything else? We got a couple things to touch on before we do go uh stay there do you don't go anywhere bentonville fondo is right first time for george's fondo in in the new cycling mecca of the u.s yep uh this is this is the one of the best cycling towns in america d and i have been there lance has been there and today apparently i'm hearing not only is

JB thinking about coming, LA is now saying he's most likely coming. Dia's coming. I mean, the whole We Do family is coming to Bentonville September 7th and 8th. So hopefully they see you guys there as well. Yeah. And also want to remind

you if you didn't catch the show with Michael White out of Boulder came in to tell us, you know, about what they've put together since his son was killed getting head out riding by an automobile just almost exactly a year ago. So they have put together the White Line event, a ride for Magnus, and it's on August 11th. It's it's I mean, you can cruise it on a city bike. They even have a walk. Yeah, just go participate, get involved in the rally, awareness, law changes, steeper penalties for these types of incidents.

So thewhiteline.org is where you can get info on that. And you can do virtual. Obviously, a lot of you listening cannot make it to Boulder, you can participate in a virtual ride. And of course here, normally we would start the women's tour either, what, today or tomorrow. It's going to be a break, right? There's a three week break.

We've talked a lot about the Olympics. So there's this natural break due to the Olympic Games. Obviously many of the women we'll see in the women's tour, we're going to see in the Olympics. So we will be back for that, I don't know, August the 12th, I believe it is. So it's going to be a break, but we'll be the same crew, same action. We'll do a preview on the 11th. We'll do a preview show on the 11th.

Yeah, yeah. I want to give just some special shout shout outs, obviously, to these two for sticking around with me, for putting up with me for three weeks. You're number eight. Can you believe that? The eighth year. Dang. So J.B. George, Bolchka back there. Nobody sees him.

He doesn't want anybody seeing him, but he's right over here over my right shoulder. Colton, somewhere around here. He's the guy making. my right shoulder. Colton, somewhere around here. He's the guy making it. Now, here's Colton. Colton is the head cinematographer for our aspiring filmmaker, Georgian Guy. Y'all, I know everybody's watching. He bailed on me on my grand finale. I mean, the team is kind of disappointed about this.

You know what? I'm tired. I'm a tad. Anyways, Colton for all the cool camera work. Liz. There she is. Lizzy Krutz. Everybody knows Liz.

Gabrielle. Our favorite Costa Rican. He's back there somewhere, too. Tico. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. See, he is back there. Ashish.

He's the silent killer. Ashish, who some people call Anush. Poor fucking Bradley Wiggins started calling him Shish Kebab. That's not nice. Any of that stuff. Uh, sheesh Patel. Yeah.

Yeah. He's, uh, everybody over at virality, uh, the social media agency, uh, Mark Kiernan,

uh, who has the gym upstairs, you've probably seen in the socials and, and, and we're right below the gym. So he is our host for, for these three weeks. And then of course the week of the women's tour.

And then a special shout out to our new partner and our new, uh, uh, broadcast partner and then, of course, the week of the women's tour. And then a special shout-out to our new partner and our new broadcast partner. Boy, that sounds cool. That sounds so fun. Peacock. Everybody over at Peacock, John Miller, everybody over there that helped make it happen.

So it's been fun. You mentioned it briefly, but I don't know if you shouted him out. Sir Bradley Wiggins. He brought some A-game. He brought some A-game. You know, we had a blast with him. I said it when he was here. I think he's the best in the business.

And he didn't disappoint. But there's something about him in this environment where it's a little different. He really shines. Next year, we'll be like, just go sit on the back of a motorcycle for a month. He's like, eh. And he hung his cowboy hat right there on that hook. So hopefully that means he wants to come back. Oh, I have a feeling.

I won't get into that. But apparently, he borrowed my wife's suitcase. And I said, well, that's awfully nice of you to give him the suitcase. And she says, no, no, no. He says he's coming back in a week. And I was like, all right. I didn't know that. OK.

I'll be here. All right, everybody. That wraps it up. That's the 2024 Tour de France third Tour de France victory for Tadej Pogacar. History for Mark Cavendish. History for Binyan Girmei. History for Carapaz. Historical tour.

We will see you all in what? Three weeks for the women's tour. Thanks for tuning in. See you soon. Vamos.