THEMOVE - Marianne Vos & Visma Assert Dominance | Tour de France 2025 Stage 1 | THEMOVE Femmes
Episode Date: July 26, 2025Lance Armstrong, Mari Holden, and Alison Tetrick break down Marianne Vos’ nail-biting win at the finish of Stage 1 of the 2025 Tour de France Femmes Avec Zwift. They analyze Visma-Lease a Bike’s t...actics, Pauline Ferrand-Prevot's excellent lead-out, and what the implications are on the GC battle. The crew also previews what to expect on tomorrow’s hilly stage to Quimper. Zwift: Zwift just made it easier than ever to get on the virtual roads. All Zwift-ready trainers come with the new Zwift Cog and Click installed, making them ready to ride from the box - no extras needed. Zwift-ready trainers start at just $299, meaning anyone can jump into world-class indoor training without breaking the bank. No excuses. Just ride! https://zwift.com Pique: Ready to optimize your recovery like a pro? Pique is offering up to 20% off for life, plus free gifts for our listeners, plus a 90-day money-back guarantee. Head to https://Piquelife.com/THEMOVE and experience it for yourself - because better sleep and peak recovery aren’t a luxury, they’re a necessity for every cyclist. You deserve to wake up clear, calm, and ready to take on your day.
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We had a lot of like interesting critiques and comments in a very felt long for such a fast 4k finish where we're like, oh, they started too early.
Oh, now it's going too slow. And then suddenly we thought Pauline was going to be in yellow. And Kim LaCorte, who won Liege-Bastogne-Liege this year, was coming up on Pauline and those closing meters.
those closing meters. And so Marianne had to sprint around Kim in order to secure her team got yellow and not Kim. But let's watch out for Kim this tour. I mean, we've already
chatted about her being on the show and she's an incredible writer.
All right. Well, hey, good to see everybody again. I was here a couple hours ago. Welcome
back to the MOVE Podcast talking about Tour de France F of X-Swift. Of course, I'm joined
by Mari Holden. Hi, Mari. Put that bad boy in front of you. There we go.
All right. You can hear me.
Yeah, we have to hear you. Alison Tetrick.
Nice to see you.
A couple goats up here at the desk with me. And of course with the men's tour, every day we talk, you know, we bring in our friend
Alain, as has been the tradition for many years, last couple years.
Alain, it would be weird if Alain, especially knowing Alain, it would be a little weird
if he did the stages for a women's tour.
But instead of that, we have, we were debating.
Madem or Mademoiselle. Yeah, anyways. Mrs. George Hinkappy. Mel Hinkappy. Mel, what did
we do today? Stage one. Van to Plum Lake.
I love it. So much better. Elan, you're out. Elan is out.
She makes everything sound better.
It's always fun to kick off any sporting event.
This one kicked off, but not many opportunities you get where the greatest of all time just
reminds people that, hey, I'm the greatest of all time.
Marianne Vos, 38 years old, multi-time world champion, unbelievable.
And A-plus performance by her, A mean, a plus performance by her
a plus plus performance by her team. Here we go.
Yeah, her team definitely showed us something today.
Unbelievable. That lead out to all the dudes who race bike.
That's the way to a lead out. It was
seemed like it was going to be a little long at first, you know, I
was getting a little concerned.
Oh, man, it's just proving again, Voss is Voss and you know, Lance, this is our fourth year
covering the Tour de France-France of Ex-Swift.
And it's kind of like right where we started.
We were here four years ago on stage one.
And you remember I was crying because Voss took the yellow jersey.
No tears today.
No, because now I'm just super stoked for everything. But it's just showing
that she still is that legend. But we wouldn't also be here without Zwift. That's right. So we
need to give a big shout out to Zwift, not only as a sponsor of our show, but the title sponsor of
the Tour de France Femme Fec Zwift. And unlike Lance, I can be an indoor kitty. So of course,
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Did you know that your outdoor rides Lance when you don't want to be an indoor
kitty, can count towards your Zwift fitness scores and trends?
I did know that.
So you just have to link your bike computer to your Zwift companion act and boom, stick,
you're in.
So I was doing a little research because George was heckling me yesterday and you have some
– got a bridge of gap to him and his Zwift
score.
So he has a level 47 and you don't.
I probably have no level.
So this morning I am not competitive at all.
So I logged into my Zwift account to see my level and I'm a level 53.
So I'm actually ahead of George.
So dang.
Well I don't know what level Marianne Boss is, but by the way, I mean, as we were watching,
to me, of course Pauline's a friend of the show, been on the show, has had this career
where she's won a world championship in cyclocross, mountain bike, road as well, right?
There for a second I thought, wow, this is not what anybody expected.
She was riding away as almost part of the lead out.
She was leading and then all of a sudden she was alone and just wasn't meant to be.
But this is such a performance by the whole team and had GC implications.
She gets a time bonus.
Demi Vollering gets, I don't want to say she got gapped off but there was a gap so the
official results show that she lost three seconds add that to the four seconds to Pauline that's
seven seconds already day one. Well and when we were watching it you know when they were coming
in and they were doing such a long lead out there we got a little concerned and then at about a
K, K and a half to go when it all kind of didn't balloon really. But I mean, the group got bigger again and we were thinking, oh God,
they messed up that lead out.
But then Pauline being on the front and pulling and then all of a sudden just
attacking and riding away was unbelievable.
And all of a sudden you realize that this tour is going to be really exciting.
So many players.
We had a lot of like interesting critiques and comments in a very felt long for such
a fast 4k finish where we're like, oh, they started too early.
Oh, now it's going too slow.
And then suddenly we thought Pauline was going to be in yellow.
And Kim LaCorte, who won Liege-Bastogne-Liege this year, was coming up on Pauline and those
closing meters.
And so Marianne had to sprint around Kim
in order to secure her team got yellow and not Kim.
But let's watch out for Kim this tour.
I mean, we've already chatted about her being on the show
and she's an incredible rider.
I mean, these, with the, you know, the dynamic,
and you all know this, but the dynamic with the lead out
is the team is trying to budget how many kilometers
or miles before the finish. They seem to have five riders lined up, so you're saying, okay,
you know, you're good for, you feel like you'll get to halfway through the climb. And then,
but you know, if somebody falters, then you miss a person. It's kind of, nonetheless, the lead out
was exceptional, but it's almost like when we got there, that's why it sort of eased up and ballooned up.
And Pauline was stuck on the front.
But one more rider and that nonetheless, first and third.
And it really it worked out.
But the thing was, is you looked at that kind of ballooning a little bit.
And, you know, we were talking about it, but at the same time, behind the chaos was pretty unbelievable still, even though it looked like it was starting to and you know we were talking about it but at the same time behind the chaos was
pretty unbelievable still even though it looked like it was starting to you know maybe they were
losing a little bit of control there the behind them in the race i mean when you have lotta
capecchi down in 40th place and you have these riders who you expect to be up in the front
you know back in the chaos it had to still be going pretty legit hard at that point.
You know?
Yeah, I mean, a lot of Kapecki loses a minute four.
Insane.
Right?
I mean, just to frame it up too,
because I don't know if we touched on it.
Tough finish, right?
1.7 kilometers at 6.2%.
That's, so this isn't a traditional lead out
for a sprint or a classic sprint finish.
This is, this is, that's a tough climb.
Well, we had talked about it in the preview show
that I definitely said this was not a sprint finish
and it was definitely a punchier finish.
But I had a couple of fun facts
about this climb they finished on.
You always do.
What would a day in the move
for the Tour de France family of eggs be without you
and all your facts and factoids?
Well, fun fact, 1985 on this climb,
the first yellow jersey was awarded to Bernard Eno,
who won and later won the tour.
And then again, this is why-
He's from these parts.
Yes.
It's a big deal.
And so this is why I knew it was going to be a hard finish,
because the tour also finished on this exact climb in 2008,
and Alejandro Valverde
won the stage and that style of rider looking at how Vos rides, I figured that finish would
be like that.
Also, I did learn that Cassie Niodoma won on this climb to win U2-3 European Championships
in 2016 and she finished fourth today. There for a sec, Chloe Dygert was sort of, we were talking about it while we were watching.
I mean, great finish for her.
Hed's, you know, was in good, these are hard finishes.
Let me just back up and say that you can take some stuff from a finish like this.
You look at Demi Vallarín losing a few seconds.
Ideal, no.
Knowing the type of rider she is,
she looks at this finish and is like,
oh my God, can we just go ride the Col de Madeleine?
Like, we just put everybody on the limit
and the last person standing wins.
These finishes are hard.
They're just,
I always
just hated to look at the profile.
Yeah, this was a tough one.
And I mean, I think that, you know,
I was thinking maybe, well, you were right.
I had thought that there was a chance that it-
That is the first-
I really thought there was gonna be a chance for the-
That's a big moment on this show.
Big moment.
For the sprint.
And Weebus was up there and so was Balsamo towards the end.
But Wevis, I think she ended up like 16th or something.
So showing that sprinters can still get up there, but
she didn't have the punch left at the finish.
But I think maybe if Visma hadn't done such a huge lead out for 5K,
the sprint could have been totally different.
If they had decided to take it up a little later,
I think the finish might have been totally different. Like if they had decided to take it up a little later, I think the finish might have been somewhat different.
And don't you think a rider,
or of course the defending champion, Kasyna Yodoma,
I mean, she has to look at today's finish,
feel pretty good, right?
She's also the type of rider
that would not like a final like this,
that is much more suited to the longer, more grueling climbs.
She has to look at this and say,
you know, first checkpoint, success.
Well, and tomorrow also with a little bit
of an uphill finish is also, I mean,
she's looking at these things thinking,
okay, maybe there's more of a chance
and without the time trial.
I think these are all good things for her.
I had a question for Lance and Mari on this.
I didn't ask this when we were watching
in our sweet chill room earlier.
But we saw Pauline on the front
and it's like still 800 meters to go.
And you're saying it's maybe it's getting too slow.
She kept looking back, looking back.
Do you think they were saying something to her
in the radio or do you think that was the plan all along?
This is what I'm saying.
She was, the team was A plus plus.. This is what I'm saying.
The team was A++. The lead out was an A-, and still an A.
She needed that extra person.
And if there had been that other person, she wouldn't have.
She was there for six, 700 meters.
I think the stage very well could have been hers.
She got stuck. You got stuck have been hers. She just, she got stuck.
You get stuck on the front, the lead out, she also knows,
hey, we've done an A job here.
I can't just pull over.
I can't let this thing completely balloon up.
She has to stay there.
So now she's trying to find a tempo
that's hard enough to keep everybody on the limit
and not too hard so she can still contest the stage
or lead out boss or whatever, but she got stuck.
Yeah, and I mean, the interesting part about her
is that I think it kind of sent a warning,
you know, out to the rest of the, to everybody else.
I'm not in the race, and I got the warning.
Yeah, I mean, the way she rode away
and the way she looked on her bike and that part
and the style of rider she is,
you know, I mean, it just it's putting her stamp on, hey, I'm here to go for the win.
There was definitely some alarm bells going off. I did not notice the nail polish color,
but the hair tie that Pauline had yellow. It might have been Weebus' problem. Maybe
she didn't have the yellow. She had light blue nails. European champion. And when the lead out was going, when they were giving it
full stick and the group was down to 30, Pauline's face,
I said, whoa, she is chilling.
Yes.
She looked comfortable.
You sit at this desk and you watch the race,
you kind of get in the business of just, it's weird,
but you just kind of watch people's faces.
She looked really comfortable.
Of course, as well, Marlon Ruisser came in with food poisoning,
came in sick, had a crash, and on stage one,
abandoned the race, which is a huge blow for the team, for the
event, for her.
This is too bad.
Food poisoning is, everybody listening has had food poisoning.
It's one of these two or three, one or two day things, hopefully.
Like you just say, let me get through these first couple of stages and then make a run
at the end.
I mean, exactly.
That's what we all hoped for her would be that you know she could get through the first couple of
stages and recover and then at least help her team maybe go first stage wins
or something but you could tell when she after that crash and she was getting
back on her bike that it was done or I could tell. You still had faith that she was
gonna do it but I looked at her. But movie stars was a huge loser today
in the bad luck department, with Rooser pulling out,
and Lippert was involved in that crash too.
And I remember, I had the similar,
I started the tour down under with food poisoning,
and Marlon said that I may look good, but I'm not.
And I remember showing up at the breakfast buffet,
you know, and I'm all veiny because I've been puking
and doing all the things for 24 hours, so you look super fit, and at the breakfast buffet, you know, and I'm all veiny because I've been puking and doing all the things for 24 hours.
So you look super fit and then the race starts.
You're just like, whoa.
It's terrible.
It's terrible mentally.
You're just empty and there's nothing you can.
It's hard to.
She's had such bad luck the last couple of years.
I mean, it just is a shame.
Yeah.
Also, we should note, because we get a lot of questions about our Olympic champion, Kristen
Faulkner is in the race targeting the stage win.
I think it's her, she lost a little time today, but her big goal for this tour is to get a
stage win.
How many Americans?
Four Americans?
Four Americans.
Four Americans.
We have Lily Williams, Ruth Winder.
They're both on Human Powered Health and and Chloe Dygert on Canyon Sram,
and Kristen Faulkner on EF.
And Lily was on Chloe's team in the Olympics,
so she's also a gold medalist in the team pursuit.
Three gold medalists on our team.
Or our US crew, I guess I should say.
Three out of four.
To all you other countries, what is your batting percentage, excuse me, on gold medals from
your country?
Anyhow, we'll take a quick peacock break.
We'll be back in two and 32.
And we are back, of course, talking about stage one of the Tour de France Fam of Ex-Wif,
won by the GOAT.
Marion Vos, what an exceptional ride.
I have a question for both of y'all,
just because I've watched this evolution on the men's side,
and of course we've seen these exceptional performances,
especially later and later in the race,
we get a lot of questions about the times,
the performances, the watts, et cetera.
By all accounts, I mean the fuel, not by all accounts, it is a change in fueling strategy.
They have taken fueling to a place that I could never even imagine pushing their guts
basically up to 100 grams of carbohydrates per hour, which is very, very hard to adjust
to.
But if you can, your tank just stays full.
But that's on the men's side.
So my question is just, has the women's Peloton done the same thing?
Absolutely.
It's the same science, really.
You have to take in account to working with your, you know, physiologist
nutritionist on the teams because women with different hormone fluctuations, times of the
month, things like that, it does matter on how you're going to fuel and recover.
But the mantra is still the same, is getting as much carbohydrates per hour as you can.
And that does, I will tell you from personal experience,
that requires some training of your gut.
Yeah.
You had a bad experience, probably.
I did, and that is probably just TMI for the show.
But it's definitely big on the gravel scene too,
because these races are 10 hours,
so it's how many carbohydrates can you get in?
And I always struggled with that,
but I think that these
team doctors are doing an incredible job, but especially it is an interesting thing
to fact in like the body size, of course differences, but also female hormones. But it's the same
thing. It's high carbs. You're still doing the cherry juice at the end, all of that is the same,
it just might be in different consistencies
and especially tracking where you are in your cycle.
Yeah.
Boy, we got right into it.
Welcome, Lance.
You didn't expect anything less from me.
Listen, I live with a bunch of women,
so, well, that sounds funny too,
but, you know what I mean?
We couldn't imagine this in our generation.
I tried a little of this when I was doing tries
in like 2012 around that time.
And it's hard, it's hard on the gut.
It's hard on the gut.
It's not pleasant adjusting.
No, and it's also something, you know,
we're looking at the professional athletes and working on this,
and they're training themselves to do this.
It's not necessarily someone who's
more of a weekend warrior type person to go out there
and start trying to do super high carbohydrates
or something.
Yeah, when I go out and ride, I still take two bottles,
maybe get through them.
But then again, I don't ride very long. George, on the other hand, yeah, we go out for two hours
and he's having gels and waffles.
I'm like, what are you doing?
I actually have a funny story.
I was coming down from the house last night
or whatever afternoon on a bike ride.
And I see a guy in an EF kit
and a guy in a really salty like the Move kit
and I was like super fans and Aspen you know it was none other than George
Henkappy and I was listening to the podcast in my ears he was trying to talk to me I'm
like I'm ready listening to you. So George was salty from riding with his son?
Yeah. Okay this is good to know I have one more day with him. I noticed you weren't
riding with him first of all and then he had to go in the super
tuck to catch his son.
This might be a good day to go.
I have a week with y'all.
I've just, I kind of stopped.
He rides too much.
I'm not fit enough.
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Folks, just for everybody watching,
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it's okay if I bring my cat.
Now keep in mind, the team stays in one house up in Snowmass and Homegirl asks if she can
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anyways all right let's tomorrow was today was was was exciting tomorrow cha-, let's look at tomorrow's profile. I love looking at these profiles.
It's like you went down to the hardware store and it's like, y'all got an extra saw blade,
never flat, four categorized climbs, uphill finish, tough.
It's going to be a tough day. It starts in the town of Brest, which also has an interesting fact.
It's been the part of the Grand Apart four times starting in 1952 and the last one in
2021.
And it is the first major event in cycling history.
So there's just like, is this on my bucket list?
But there's this ride called Paris Brest Paris.
That's the old and that's a, that's kind of an iconic cycling
endurance event for sure.
It's the first one, it's in 1891.
I think an American guy won that many, many years ago.
It's funny when I first heard of that event,
the distance was such that you're like,
how could anybody ride that long?
Now, and maybe the fueling has something to do with it.
People are doing, I mean, look at Lachlan Moore.
I mean, they're doing crazy long rides
and riding, doing them fast.
Like it's, nonetheless, it's still epic.
What is also epic, let's just pull up the final.
This is yet another, you saw it,
you remember today's final, 1.7 at 6.2%.
This is another tough finish. I mean, you remember today's final, 1.7 at 6.2%. This is another tough finish.
I mean, we could see a repeat, right?
I mean, if you're Vs and Elisa bike, you're thinking,
let's just run it back.
Maybe tweak it a little bit, just wait a little longer,
add one more person there.
We might see a instant replay.
I mean, I'm sure they would love to keep the yellow jersey,
you know, another day. Yeah. So, and they have the climbing jersey and there are a fair
amount of climbs plus a bonus sprint. That's a great point. If you look at
Gabrielle, can we pull it up one more time? This is different than, I'm
sorry, the overall profile. Also there is, because this is not showing.
So this one is not showing it.
There is a time bonus.
So this is unique to the Tour de France, Femme de Vex, where there are intermediate time
bonuses, which they don't have in the men's tour.
We did have them back in the day, I remember, occasionally.
But it was a tough day.
Well, when this did finish on that exact, it's the exact same run in as the men's tour
in 2021 and Peter Sagan won it.
So you're thinking it was still fast, but kind of a classics type finish.
Yep.
7,000 feet of climbing in 70 miles.
I mean, I think it's always, that's always the, those two things,
it's kind of like power and weight, right? You've got 7,000 vertical feet of climbing
in a relatively short distance. That's my wife calling me. Sorry, sorry guys. She just
finished her mountain bike race.
Oh, that's exciting. Is Leadville today?
No, no. I think Anna's days of Leadville are done.
I think a rider to watch tomorrow is Sedrine Kribal.
And we liked, she was the best young writer
in the tour in 2023.
And she got fourth in LBL this year,
but she had that really cool win that you love Lance,
where she attacked on the descent and just sent it
in one solo.
I always loved that, yeah.
And she's actually born in Brest.
So, I mean, the town's gonna go go crazy for her and she is EF's
GC writer who like Faulkner is working for at least Faulkner said that today on her Instagram
So I think it'll be a really exciting today to watch
Her shine in her hometown and go through her area
Yeah, I mean I was thinking this is this is where I actually
did think that like Chloe and Marion Voss and, you know, all of the kind of Capecchi would be going forward in this stage.
This is kind of going to be more like a classic style finish. It's going to be a good one. I didn't think the Sprinters were going to get it today. I did think the Sprinters were going to get it today, but this one I thought they wouldn't.
This is a different stage, right?
If you go, just compare it to today's stage.
This has twice the climbing.
A little bit longer stage, but in terms of total verd, double.
So that's just kind of death by 1,000 cuts
as the stage goes on, and then you finish up ill.
So it's no to Demi Vallering, stay on the wheel.
I know these aren't ideal stages for you,
but don't lose any more time and don't give away time bonuses.
Oh, yeah.
It's going to be exciting tomorrow.
As we have done on the Men's Show,
love to get your questions.
You can send those to us at info.
I don't need to spell that, do I?
Info at wedodateam.
wedodateam.
Info at wedodateam.
We'll try to read those or get to those on air.
By the way, too, Ali, thank you for that.
You brought your own boomstick.
Yeah.
Boomstick.
I'm ready.
We're keeping all hard loud objects away from me.
Away from Ali.
I am very risky.
You also don't turn on your mic, just to make sure you don't
hear me.
It happened one time.
But Lance, tomorrow you have another double day.
We're going to start bright and early.
That's right.
So they're flipped. Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So.
5 a.m. start.
5 a.m. start, you get to hang out with me and Mari,
and I think we're gonna bring a little more joy
into your life, you know?
It's gonna be a bright part of your day.
I'm here for it.
Yeah.
I'm here for it, all right.
Are we still doing the whole thing?
Yeah, of course.
Oh, we are?
That's like tradition.
Yeah, that's tradition.
Okay, well anyways. We will be back tomorrow with Stage 2, bright and early, and thanks
for tuning in and...
Bye!
Bye!
Bye!