THEMOVE - Pauline Ferrand-Prévot's Historic Victory | Tour de France 2025 Stage 9 | THEMOVE Femmes
Episode Date: August 3, 2025Lance Armstrong, Mari Holden, and Alison Tetrick wrap up the 2025 Tour de France Femmes Avec Zwift, where Pauline Ferrand-Prévot finished 3 minutes and 42 seconds ahead of second-place Demi Vollering.... They also break down Sarah Gigante’s unfortunate fall off the podium, and the crew shares their final takeaways from the tour as a whole. Zwift: Zwift just made it easier than ever to get on the virtual roads. All Zwift-ready trainers come with the new Zwift Cog and Click installed, making them ready to ride from the box - no extras needed. Zwift-ready trainers start at just $299, meaning anyone can jump into world-class indoor training without breaking the bank. No excuses. Just ride! https://zwift.com Hyperice: THEMOVE will provide 15% off your order of all Hyperice tech and $100 off Hyperboot. https://bit.ly/46B0g1w Pique: Ready to optimize your recovery like a pro? Pique is offering up to 20% off for life, plus free gifts for our listeners, plus a 90-day money-back guarantee. Head to https://Piquelife.com/THEMOVE and experience it for yourself - because better sleep and peak recovery aren’t a luxury, they’re a necessity for every cyclist. You deserve to wake up clear, calm, and ready to take on your day.
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We all started talking about everyone else and not forgetting that she was there, but not talking about it as much, you know, and talking about Sarah, talking about Demi, you know, and I don't think she just came out and she did.
I don't think we ever forgot about her for sure.
We were watching and waiting, knowing how much she had prepared, of course.
But I think that first day was her first kind of like, whoopsie a bit like she kind of looks back and she was like, oh, no, where is everybody?
like whoopsie a bit, like she kind of looks back and she was like, oh no, where is everybody? Maybe I don't want to come out of the closet that soon. But I mean, like we said yesterday,
she's pure masterclass and looking at all the interviews and what the writers are posting,
I mean, Pauline is like literal next level.
Welcome back to the MOOC podcast. Mari, Allie, thank you so much.
It's been a heck of a nine days.
It's flown by.
It has flown by and I can tell you what else flew.
Pauline was flying.
Bravo, Pauline.
I mean, what a boss ride.
She was just so clearly dominant, but I didn't see coming today.
I knew you called it. And you called it. And she was just so clearly dominant, but I didn't see coming today.
I didn't know you called it.
And you called it.
Marie called it as we were watching.
But before we get into all the action for the last time for 2025, Mel, what did we do
today?
Stage nine.
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We had a yellow jersey, just triple reinforced that she was head and shoulders above everybody
else.
But it went from the gun.
I mean, it did go from-
The green jersey going from the gun.
Yeah, we got to dive into that.
I mean, turning on the TV this morning, love on the weekends that we got to watch from
kilometer zero all the way to the finish, super exciting stages.
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I think.
Yes, I tell you. And mine's going up tomorrow morning because I have my ride at 730 Mountain.
Oh, on Zwift.
Yes.
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Group ride?
Group ride, yes.
There we go.
Yeah, no.
Pauline, when she wants to go for a bike ride with me, I just need like 30 days.
I'll be ready.
So not a coffee ride?
Let's just generalize it for now. Give me 30 days, I'll be ready.
We've talked to Pauline. We feel like this is going to happen.
For sure. We'll get on that.
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She thought it was 56 days. As we were watching that, she said, well, I'm on day 56.
I'm like, hmm, 28, maybe.
I think it's been 28 days.
You were impressing us with your math this morning, actually.
No.
Playing the We Senior High, baby.
We can know how many days it takes to do two tours.
But back to Pauline. I mean it was just
We were reflecting like even going as I look back at those early stages she looked look
I guess there's some probably some question marks. She she jumps over to the road
She states her goal to win the Tour de France family of ex-wifed. So you never know right?
This is even the career she's had.
She had to have some questions.
She just, upon reflection, she was in control the whole time.
Not just, and I mean in every aspect of the game,
uphill, downhill, positioning in the Peloton.
But she played it so smart.
Smart.
I mean, we saw what she could.
Even today.
We saw her acceleration on the first day and what she did in that lead out.
And everyone was talking about it.
But then she hit out and really just kind of played it cool.
And we all started talking about everyone else and not forgetting that she was there,
but not talking about it as much, you know, and talking about Sarah, talking about Demi,
you know, and I don't think she just came out and, you know, she did.
I don't think we ever forgot about her for sure.
We were watching and waiting knowing how much she had prepared, of course.
But I think that first day was her first kind of like, whoopsie a bit.
Like she kind of looks back and she was like, oh, no, where is everybody?
Maybe I don't want to come out of the closet that soon.
But I mean, like we said yesterday, pure masterclass and looking at all the
interviews and what the writers are posting, I mean, Pauline said yesterday, she's pure masterclass. And looking at all the interviews and what the writers are posting,
I mean, Pauline is like literal next level.
I mean, at first they're disappointed
that they're not up with her.
They're losing so many minutes on this climb yesterday.
And then they're like,
post-race interviews immediately is,
oh man, I had a bad day, this and that.
They download their power files later
and they're like,
that actually was the best day of my life.
That was the best day of my career day. Just to put it in context, Demi Vahlren gets second. She's three minutes and
42 seconds behind. Cassie Niyadoma moves up into third. We'll talk about that because
there was a lot going on for this fight slash drama for this fight for the podium primarily
in and around Sarah Gigante, which lots of thoughts there
and lots of understanding too, I mean this is a hard game and and
it's it's yes, you have to go uphill, but
You also have to go downhill. Yeah
So lots of thoughts there, but if you frame it up, right
So she's 342 ahead of Demi who's in second if you just doubled that you went another
to ahead of Demi who's in second. If you just doubled that, you went another 3.42
between second and sixth place are within 3.42.
So that shows you where the field is.
And then there's, you know, sort of up here
in the stratosphere is Paul Lane.
I mean, it's that much better.
Oh, in every discipline of our sport.
Yeah.
Gravel road, mountain bike, but like it said,
Lance said BMX better watch out.
Yeah.
Agreed.
But this morning though, I thought it was just so exciting.
We knew it was going to be hard stage, started on that 15K descent.
We know where SD works and Cassia said last night, like it's game on on these descents.
I'm going to make my time up in GC on this.
We're going full gas.
And kilometer zero, Weebus attacks from the gun.
She's like, I know I don't want to call her the Hulk, but it is great in that green jersey.
And SD works like woke up and I said I'd give one last kitten analogy Lance, but like my
cat SD works woke up this morning and just chose violence. They were just like violence.
Yes, here we go. And they went and attacked and attacked.
And they gave no pucks. Yeah, yeah. And they went and attacked and attacked. And of Hannah Bregan. They gave no pucks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hannah was impressive.
I thought that was a gutsy ride.
I mean, why not, right?
With all her experience and I don't know what, you know,
look, they're going to leave with a green jersey.
There's talk, you know, I think they probably
leave a little disappointed overall, right?
But so Anna being the warrior that she is, she said, no, I'm going to send it.
And I thought that was a heck of a ride.
She attacked so many times, finally the peloton was just like, Basta, go up the road, please.
This is hurting.
I mean, it was a great way to play it because, you know, say something had happened and Sarah
had gotten back, those girls might not have chased so hard on her and maybe she would have survived a
little longer.
You know, it would have changed the whole game.
So being upfront like that and pushing was awesome for SD Works.
I thought they really came out to go for it.
They did.
They chose violence this morning.
They chose violence.
Just like Puck.
Gave no pucks.
Especially when they had three riders up there at one point.
Yeah.
Lotta's attacking.
You got one, two punches.
It was really exciting. And Anna had a beautiful ride. I did see like the two chinks in Pauline's
armor I saw today was she did say she felt a little pressure in the yellow jersey. She
did get gapped off in that beginning. There's like two pelotons forming. And she said that
she just kind of got in her head and then she was like, wait, what am I doing? I'm going
to get at the front and then I'm going to win in yellow. I'm not sure I buy that. Yeah,
exactly. She's pretty in control. Yeah, not sure I buy that. Yeah, exactly.
She's pretty in control.
Yeah.
The second she-
She got a little isolated.
She did.
She got isolated.
Second she- she sat in the podium post-race thing.
And she said, I think I'm just going to sit here for a while.
She got a little tired, I think, after today.
Yeah, these were full effort.
I mean, we watched and we saw it yesterday.
And you also saw it today.
Those two times were the first times her face looked different.
That was sort of a grimace.
It was kind of a, you know, TV speculating, oh, she's cracking a small smile.
I actually think she's going as hard as she can go right now.
That was a suffering smile.
That's a suffer smile.
Like, where's the finish line?
I think that smile came at about 200 meters to go
is when it became an actual smile.
But what a champion, oh my goodness.
You're telling her to go and I'm like, she is going,
as hard as she can.
You can't help yourself, you're watching and you're like,
and yeah, you're like, go, go now, go harder.
Not listening.
Like, go now, go now, go harder. Of course, not listening.
And I think it takes a certain character,
she doesn't have to do that, right?
She has minutes in front.
And I'm sure there's a part of the world that's like,
oh, why don't you just ride in
and let somebody else have the stage?
And it takes some guts to say, no, I'm in the yellow jersey.
And it's not always popular to just go back out and just
destroy people again.
The little bit that I know about her,
she doesn't care about that.
She wants to win by grace.
And she's also a French woman in France winning the Tour
de France.
I mean, I think she wants to get in front of her people
and put on a good show.
And she did exactly. The amount of people out and the signs. I mean, I think she wants to get in front of her people and put on a good show.
The amount of people out and the signs. I mean, we talk about it a lot. And I think
maybe early on the listener would think they're just, no, these, I'm telling you, the base
of Jouplan, that looked like the tour de France period. And then there were people all day
long and obviously she's, I can't imagine
another female French athlete that's bigger in that country right now. Her people were
out.
Oh man. Everybody was out for her, including us. And you know, it's kind of fun. I bet
when she said that she's going over to Rhodes, signs this contract with Vizmolisa Bike,
leaving Ineos that didn't want to invest in women's road cycling. I bet Ineos is sitting there somewhere going, huh, maybe I should
have done a women's road team. Also, she had this really cute interview. I did the Pauline
hair yesterday. I have long blonde hair. I'm a big fan. Liz and I are blondies here, and
Anna too. And it's really cute though. She signs this contract and she wins Perry Rebey, her
first and they put a cap on her. And she was like, crap, my agent and I didn't put like
a no cap clause. Like she didn't want to wear a hat. She's so used to doing her top knot
and her tight ponytail. And now she's like, I feel like a policeman in my, in my hat.
But now she said she's getting used to it. That's an update on Pauline's hair for everyone
who's interested.
I don't know what she's doing tonight, but... No, no.
Listen.
Don't get weird.
I know it's been nine days. Y'all are tired.
It's been a lot of days for me. I'm tired.
Don't get weird.
Let me say this again. I don't even know where you're going with it.
I know you don't.
I'm not getting weird.
She has her mind in the gutter.
I'm off the bat. I don't know what Pauline's doing tonight.
Wherever she is, and you own a bank in that area, I'd double lock the doors because this
woman could just walk in right now and just take the money.
I mean, in France, it's just, oh, you want it?
All right, door's open.
If you own the bank, you better stand guard.
National hero. National hero.
National hero.
Do you want to dive into the ascending yet or do you want to?
Well, let's look.
I mean, I think it might be the biggest.
I mean, look, we expected Pauline to hold on to yellow.
We didn't expect her to stamp it like that, but great for her.
But I think the biggest story of the day is Sarah Giganti and her, not just
her lack of descending skills. And I want to talk about this and I want to honor the
fact that this is, these are some, I said it yesterday, the descent of Jouplan is terrifying.
It really is. And thank God the roads were dry. You throw some rain on those roads, everybody is terrified. And so, but she struggled immensely.
It cost her dearly, right?
She goes from second in GC.
What did we see?
Second down to sixth.
Sixth, yeah.
On GC, because of descending, right?
You think that happens in cycling when somebody gets dropped badly or bonks on a climb and just can't.
That happens.
To see it happen on a downhill,
I felt for her because I think, and we were talking a lot about this, descending is, I
think, sort of 50% genetics where they're just folks that are just a little more coordinated,
a little more fearless. And then there's another 50% that you can train. You can know the course
exceptionally well. If you can't descend,
then you have to spend time knowing every inch, not of the climb, but of the downhill, because you
know you're going to get dropped. And then there's just ways, ride with other people, learn their
tricks of the trade, like learn how to descend. This was brutal. I mean, that's kind of the point.
I know she went and trained on some of the descents is what they had been talking about.
But being on them with people who are really good
and trying to push it at speed,
because there's a difference between riding it slowly
and kind of understanding where the turns are
versus trying to take things at speed.
And it just seems like she needs a lot of work
on that repetition and going back through it
over and over again, trying to push the limit
out of her comfort zone. Yeah, my heart goes out. that repetition and going back through it over and over again, trying to push the limit
out of her comfort zone.
Yeah, my heart goes out. She's such a talented rider. She's been riding a long time. She's
national champion. She's a great climber, obviously. She did say that there's been some
hate on the internet. She does not need some troll critiquing her descending on the internet.
So please don't do that, fellas, because I that is that, but like, I mean, I was,
I've had some really hard crashes.
She's had hard crashes.
It does make it difficult.
I was definitely not born with that fearless gene
and Mari's been my director.
So you know, I can struggle at descending.
And, and so like, I do know you have to work on it,
but also like, it was so painful to watch,
but also people be nice.
Well, and I mean, you've, I've seen,
we've all seen it before where you have people who struggle with the
descending and it is something that's trainable.
And also if the team knows that that's an issue and how much are they going to put into
building a team around her?
I mean, she's only 23 years old.
She obviously is a great climbing talent.
She's just coming back from her iliac artery surgery in January.
So I think even improving that much in that short period of time, but really spending
some time working on the descending is really going to help her.
And there have been women before like Luperini who was winning all kinds of races in the
90s and 2000s and couldn't descend at first and then got much better through her career.
So I mean, I still think there's a great future for her.
And so it's like, I hope she doesn't get down on it too much and just takes it as a, you
know, something that she can learn from and really move forward and be motivated in that
learning.
100% learn it.
Learn it.
100%.
And look, she's probably never going to get to a place where she's going to never, I think
it's safe to say, she's never going to go downhill like Pauline.
Well, she's like 100 pounds.
Right.
Well, Pauline's very little too.
But that's okay.
Right.
It's more, it's not about gaining an advantage.
It's about minimizing your losses or eliminating your losses.
But just to go back to the, and they reference this in the coverage on Peacock.
Whoever's throwing shade at anybody that's going down these descents in any of these
tours, I'd love to put them at the top as you plan.
And so go ahead, fire away.
I'm telling you, it's super, super sketchy.
Plus, you're at the end of nine days, you're at the end of your rope, you're tired.
This is also a mental game, right?
You have to focus, you have to, it makes it that much harder. Um, but look, what I would say to Sarah Giganti is, is, uh, it's learnable. Um, European roads and
we were chatting about this during the race, European roads, not that I'm some sort of
roadologist, they are built differently than, than we built roads here in the United States,
for example. And she comes from Australia. So they're, you know, you know, but she comes
from Melbourne.
That's not the Alps, and that's not the Rockies, right?
And so it's, you probably didn't grow up riding these things
and being trained to figure out ways to do them.
But there are ways to go downhill.
Look, European roads are very predictable.
What you see going into the corner almost all the time
is what you're gonna see coming out of the corner.
And if that's not the case, if it is a surprise, they will let you know.
In Europe, it does a very good job of this.
If there's all of a sudden some sneaky corner, they let you know.
There's fleshes.
And even the race will let you know.
You have to trust the signs and trust.
And if you want to get really granular here, trust the center line.
That center line is going to tell you what is happening going into the corner and coming
out of the corner.
But there were times that they weren't even corners and you could see her stop pedaling,
start to hit the brakes.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, full send.
You just have to go.
And if you get in there and you get in trouble, you got brakes.
And so then you can use these brakes.
By the way, too, we're on disc brakes now, right?
Things work really well.
She can absolutely learn this, whether that's with being with other people or just having
somebody train her up.
But you take that one downhill out of this, she's on the podium.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I did like that you said that the European roads are romantic lands.
I thought that was very good the European roads are romantic.
They're more romantic on the way up.
Right?
So, you know, and my, we were sort of joking, but it's true.
Like in America, when we built roads, we're like, ah, we're going there to pave it, you
know, so that our climbs in the United States are not consistent.
You go ride European roads.
That's why you see climbs that are, you know, 10,
12, 14 kilometers long at 8% the whole way. Right? Here they're, you know, they're steep,
flat, steep, flat.
Or they're just so wide open, you don't need to be controlling your bike at all.
We just built them different, but nonetheless, they are racing over there. So it's, you know,
these roads are, they are romantic.
Which is another reason why it's so important for kids to get over there,
racing early and learning how to race on these different types of, you know,
terrain and stuff. Yeah. It's just,
you start to expect it and learn how to adapt.
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I think we got to talk about Juliette Labouse.
I mean, teammate of the year today.
So impressive.
She was like the bus of that breakaway group for a long time. You said-
She was Pauline's teammate too, by the way. Yeah, that's what you said.
I mean, that's the way this works. Yeah.
Yeah. Hey, thank you. I mean, she's getting Christmas cards from both those ladies.
Exactly. For sure.
Seriously. And every time Demi attacked,
and she would come back and then be on the front again.
Yeah. I felt bad because Demi would attack attack and then of course the first person she drops
is Juliette Labouse, her teammate, the only teammate in the group all day.
And then she crawls back on, gets to the front, keeps working, sets Demi up to attack again,
gets dropped.
Man, Dometh Stieglife is tough.
Towards the end, she was on the front.
I think we had it, I mean, that was like a 30 minute pull.
30K.
That was a 30 minute.
It was a long pull.
Nobody else took a pull.
No.
No.
Well, she was a good teammate for all in that group to ensure that they got higher up in
GC.
And right.
And that's there.
But look at it now.
If you go down between Cassia 409, Gigante 640.
So I mean, she didn't even need to be doing.
I think Gigante was a little off today anyways.
I mean, besides the fact of her descending on the climb
when they started to go, she didn't really
have that kind of jump that she had the other day.
And you know, but it was obvious that none of them
did, volleying or, you know, cacha.
They were all on the limit.
Been a hard tour.
And she got stuck in the worst place ever.
I mean, because of the downhill, she was truly in no woman's land.
Yeah.
Like, all alone.
All alone.
We all felt for her.
Yeah.
I would just be like, take those TV cameras off of me, please.
Then I leave them.
But how exciting this is.
I realize that this is our fourth time here, you guys, in Aspen, covering the Tour de France
from VexSwift.
Thanks for having us.
And we've had four different winners.
That's exciting.
Yep, and similar, well, outside of Paul Lane,
I mean, pretty similar podiums, but four different winners.
Yeah, Ana makes sense retired, but like,
I mean, that's exciting racing.
It's just showing that this progression is going up,
where we're watching these riders hit their all time power numbers yesterday and going, oh, the level's going
up and it keeps going up. And I think Casio said something about how, oh, I guess it's
not good to have just, it's not good enough to have a little bit of improvements. You
need to be like, keep leveling up, which Pauline just showed everybody, obviously.
Well, they didn't. That was, that was a new addition to the race. So that begs the question.
I mean, Pauline came in and said, I want to win the Tour de France
Fam of Ex-Wif, which she very handily did.
I'm assuming she wants to win again, right?
I mean, is there a world where she goes back
to mountain biking?
And I mean, the lady that I saw today or the last nine days,
she could show up to any mountain bike, any World Cup
race, any Olympics, any Worlds, win. Like she's that strong. And possibly Rwanda would be an interesting
course for her. We took a sneak peek of the World Championships in Rwanda. It's, you know, 11, more than
11,000 vert on the ladies side. I think we thought 17 or 18,000 vert on the men's side. Yeah, you
might be watching another bike race. Five star favorite. Can you imagine winning Worlds on the men's side. Yeah, you might be watching another bike race. Five star favorite.
But you know, can you imagine winning worlds on the road,
winning the tour and winning the Olympic gold medal
all within, you know, 12 months?
Well, I think she can't imagine that actually.
I don't think it's that hard.
It's kind of mind blowing when you think about it, you know.
But yeah, we've talked to Pauline a little bit.
So I think we might have to bring her on the show
to ask her what's next.
Just when I thought I was done talking about cycling for 2025.
And would you complain to talk to Pauline and ask her what's next?
Listen, in my heart of hearts, I was going to retire for the rest of 2025.
I'm done talking about cycling.
But Pauline's coming on.
I'll be here.
Good.
Good. P.F.P. I'll be here. Good. Okay, P.F.P., I'll be here.
Yeah.
I will.
No, she's amazing.
Just taught the world a lot about bike racing.
Again, just year after year and it's just incredible.
So we're fortunate to have athletes like this.
I also think, like saying one more time, how incredible it is how the French women rode
in this tour too.
I mean, they won so many stages and the overall it's
just kind of mind-blowing when a couple years ago the French were not really on
the radar. I mean you have four French women in the top ten. Look at the top ten
right? Four French women, two Polish riders, two Australians. It shows them in
the sport it is cyclical so countries come and go but but four riders from
France in the top ten. I do want to give a little tilt of the hat
to Dominika, the fifth that was in that breakaway today,
Polish rider.
This is only her second year racing World Tour.
She has a science degree, and she's from a small Polish town,
and she actually was leading in her first World Tour race
she started last year in Tour Down Under,
and she started leading the UCI World Tour points.
And she was like, I literally just came from Poland,
from a tiny town and now I'm leading the women's world tour.
And now she's fifth at the Tour de France, following Bec Swift.
And so again, without her team leader,
we're looking at Squibbin,
who was so close to getting the queen of mountain jersey.
Damien was sprinting like a madman,
trying to keep it for Chabby, but that's questionable.
But yeah, it's a good story, a good writer to watch.
And yeah, fourth in the tour.
Fourth. Oh, she moved up to fourth.
Fourth. Crazy things happen when I look away.
Well, don't look away.
Yeah. Crazy things happened on the down.
That changed everything. Yeah. All right.
Final thoughts and impressions of the 2025 Tour de France
fam of ex-Swift. By the way, huge win for Swift and huge shout out. I mean, I know where I talked
about it, but Swift is, this is cool. Like what they've done for women's cycling and it's,
you know, rare that you can kind of brand an event like that. They've owned it and good for them.
Hats off to them. Yeah. I think it's just we're in such an exciting place
to watch these incredible athletes
and then keep pushing that level
of what it's gonna look like in the future.
And then we're seeing all these messages coming in
to how it's inspiring the next generation.
I get a lot of questions,
we don't have time to go through them all,
like Lance's favorite sandwich,
a sandwich named after you, Lance.
But final thoughts is I think this is just,
the Watch the Femme is like, it's not just
a movement anymore.
This is just reality and the sport is being elevated through this and Zwift's investment
in it is showing that really like the more we watch women, the more women win.
And hopefully we have some people that are very motivated watching what just happened
out there in France.
I'm super excited to see what they bring out for next year.
Are they going to add a time trial,
or how are they going to change this up a little bit
and make it longer?
But I'm excited to see what they bring out.
Yeah.
I think, finally for me, if you didn't, if I can pick,
because I sat here for a month, and I talked every day
about the men's race, and I talked every day
about the women's race.
Both of them have two really
strong similarities. One, first and foremost, they both were won by people that were so
far better than everybody else, including second place. But if you didn't look at gender
and you didn't, if you just thought you were looking at robots and you said, I'm just going
to watch a sporting event, right? And I mean this. This sporting event that we just watched, however it shook out,
and again, polling was that good.
But we didn't know that till yesterday.
We were waiting for that.
So the way that it was set up, the way
that it was structured, so if you didn't know
and you were just watching sports,
this was a much better race.
And this was, as a fan, and maybe it's easier for me
to watch women cycling,
because I have so much history with men cycling.
But if I didn't know anything,
and I was just watching a sporting event,
this is a better sporting event.
And I can't say that enough times,
and I can't say it loud enough, and I mean it.
It was exciting, and so I'm with you.
I don't know what they bring us for 2026, but I can't wait.
Yeah, it's going to be good.
And it's been fun.
I mean, for us to sit here and talk about it and just have you like enjoying it the
way you have been.
It's been a fun time.
He's fangirling.
He likes it.
Definitely fangirling.
I had a lot of reflections in 2025.
No, I did.
I did.
About that I'm not going to get into.
But how many incredible stories do we come out?
We have Kim La Cour, we've got Mavva.
We have, I mean, this is.
Oh, come on.
It is such a beautiful course.
Yeah, there's a lot of stories.
And you know what?
Sports, whether it doesn't matter the sport, sports are built on stores
and sports are built on the backs of people and the athletes and the stars.
And whether they could be heroic stories, on stories and sports are built on the backs of people and the athletes and the stars and
whether they could be heroic stories, they could be tragic stories, they could be comeback
stories.
Sports are the best place to tell these stories and we saw a lot of them.
I mean, it's been a heck of a nine days.
Lots of stories.
Time of our lives.
So, all right, anything else?
Watch the Femme.
Watch the Femme. All right. Well, I guess one final, we're not going to be back tomorrow.
We might be back soon when Pauline wants to chat.
She will.
She will.
Yeah, she'll be busy robbing.
Final boomstick for Pauline.
I'm sorry you get it two days in a row, babe, but you deserve this.
Boomstick today and overall.
And it was suggested and she might want this sent to her, so we might need to make her her own boomstick. Okay, we can do that. Let's deserves it. You deserve this. Boomstick today and overall. And it was suggested and she might want this sent to her
so we might need to make her her own boomstick.
Okay, okay, we can do that.
All right, one final time.
Thanks for tuning in.
And thanks to everybody at Peacock.
And three, two, one.
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