THEMOVE - Reusser Storms Into Yellow & the GC Conversation | Tour de France Femmes 2026 Stage 4 | THEMOVE

Episode Date: August 4, 2026

Lance, Ali, and Mari break down Marlen Reusser's dominant victory in the Stage 4 time trial, where the Movistar rider powered through the 21-kilometer course to take the yellow jersey and a 14-second ...lead over Demi Vollering. The crew also discusses Pauline Ferrand-Prévot's disappointing performance against the clock, examines how the general classification looks after the time trial, and previews tomorrow's very difficult Stage 5. Become a WEDŪ Member Today to Unlock VIP Access & Benefits: https://access.wedu.team Pioneer Pastures: Pioneer Pastures has an exclusive BOGO for listeners of THEMOVE. Go to https://pioneerpastures.com/themove to claim it. Honey Stinger: Use code THEMOVE25 for 25% off at https://Honeystinger.com/THEMOVE25

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And I love the girl. This is the worst time trial position. And one of the worst performances in time trial that we've ever seen. I mean, it was hard to watch almost. And where does that get us? I mean, she has her work cut out for her now. Like this race is, she may have lost the race today. I mean, the interesting thing, though, is like position on the bike is something that you could control.
Starting point is 00:00:21 You know, I mean, you can't necessarily control the road or, you know, it's she going to be a great time trialist. But you could with the amount of time that it sounded like they would. worked on it actually have dialed in the position better because from what it looked like, it looked like the bike wasn't even comfortable to ride. I mean, it looked unstable. And we are back. This is the move podcast. I'm Lance Armstrong, joined by Mari Holden, Alison Tetrick, by the way, Olympic medalist in the time trials. So so appropriate, we can I mean, you know, time trials, there's oftentimes not a lot to talk about. We could probably spend most of this time talking about Pauline's time trial position.
Starting point is 00:01:02 which it is something we have. I mean, we have to talk about it. It was, it was, not what we were expecting. Not what we were expecting. Very newsworthy, I think, drastically affected the race. Before we get into all that,
Starting point is 00:01:15 Mel, Mell Hincappy, what did we do today? Stage four from Jevre Chimberthin to Dijon. Did all speed that one up back there? It was like she was in a hurry for that one. Now, fun fact.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Mel Hinkapi is from Dijon. Oh. Did you all know that? That's her hometown. That's where she grew up. Maybe that's why she was in a hurry to get through it. Nobody wants to talk about their hometown. Plano to Plano.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Not a lot to talk about. We remember a tour of Texas. You can tell us where we're going. I don't know that's going to happen. We did it in the day. We had a great race back in the day. Marlon Rooster. I mean,
Starting point is 00:01:59 exceptional performance. She looks so good on a bike. I mean, I saw this position. We are going to talk about. We have to talk about the positions. But if you compare and contrast her who won and it's, you know, as you saw, she was riding in the world champions jersey. So she's clearly the best time Charles in the world. You compare her position to Pauline's and some of the others.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Now, that was special to watch. It wasn't. But I mean, when you look at the second place and I'm going to butcher this name. Lika, noyan. Noyan. Noyan. You know, she had an incredible ride. Her descent had to be, we didn't really see it, but her descent had to be pretty insane for Marlon to have lost so much time to her from the top to the finish.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Yeah, Marlin was, and there was, a lot of the ladies were talking about the wind. You saw them on this final run into town, not able to be out on the arrow position. I looked at Demi, I thought, boy, she's going fast. She wasn't on the bars. commentary told her she's going 82 kilometers an hour. That's just over 50 miles an hour. So if you do, if you're in, you know, this is parts of Europe. You get windy days.
Starting point is 00:03:10 And if you're finishing in a town, it doesn't take a lot. Like you're riding through houses when there's a gap. This sounds kind of crazy to even say for the average person to understand. But if there's a gap between the houses, that wind with an aerobike, I mean, it can catch you. And that's the last thing you want, especially when you're going 50 miles an hour. But a lot of them were just being cautious out on the. the drops and not out on the arrow bars. But frankly, I would do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah. Like, I would be nervous. Yeah. You don't want to lose the race there on that descent. But I do think Lika, getting second place by four seconds to the reigning world champion is an incredible ride, 24-year-old Dutch rider. And she's the current national road race champion for the Netherlands. But Marling, can we go back to her real quick? I mean, she is the current world champion, as we saw in the beautiful.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Rainbow Stripes. Also won the European Championships, Olympic silver medalist, just like our host here, Mari. The very own. Yes, our very own Mari. And she didn't start riding until she was 26 years old. She's currently 34. And she's a medical doctor. So she, yes. Really? So she was working as an assistant surgeon. And then she actually got a silver medal in the Olympics in 2021, finished her doctorate. And it is now a medical doctor and this good racing a bike. She's. fascinating human. Dr. Roycer.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Dr. Roycer. Not only does she win the time trial, Dr. Royser is also in the yellow jersey. Also in the yellow jersey. It's incredible. I'm a very good GC rider. I mean, we've talked about this, that she hasn't finished the last couple because of crash last year and maybe it was illness the year before or something like that. But it'll be really wild to watch her this year where she's the leader of the team.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Because before when she was riding while, she was on SD works and having to work for the team. So I think it's going to be. Yeah, I think it's going to be really interesting watching her in the mountains. She's going to climb like a diesel. You know, she is one of the larger women in the peloton's just by size. 511. 511. She has proclaimed, like, self-fly that she goes by a flying elephant because, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:16 she's so much taller than a lot of these women in the peloton. But this year she did win the Tour de Swiss. Last year, second overall de Buelta. So she can do these climbs. She just has to do them at her own pace. You know, she needs to climb more like. a Tom Dumolin or somebody that's more of a time trial specialist. Yeah. Just you just just stay with your pace and manage, if there are losses,
Starting point is 00:05:37 manage the losses. Yeah. So I think it's going to be an interesting way. And she has a interesting perspective too. She's really, she was dealing with long COVID. So she had this chronic illness for a couple years. So this is the first time she's coming this year where she feels like as a GC contender. And she has, she left SD works. She feels like she has a team around her. And I think she's really looking to hold on to this yellow. And I mean, Godspeed to her. But I think that, you know, time trailing, you guys both know, being excellent time trials yourself. Like, it's how you approach this pacing and kind of, you know, Lance, in the We Do team, we talk a lot about the suffering.
Starting point is 00:06:11 But it's like this controlled suffering where you do a little more. And I put my Grampi up behind us today because he loved time trailing. And Griffey won 17 national time trial champions. But she knew, Ali. Yeah, he wanted to be here for the time trial. But what is this like the mental, Lance? Like, what do you talk about? She talked about the suffering because she can control it versus when she's working with their patients, like women giving birth or people's chronic illness.
Starting point is 00:06:32 They can't control that suffering. When she's out there doing a time trial, she's controlling her effort. How do you approach that? Look, and forever it's been called the race of truth in cycling. And it really is. It's the individual. It's the machine. And it's obviously the course and the clock.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And there's no hiding. And we saw that with Pauline. But the best of the best can, they somehow find. this magic in being alone and being in. And there are certain folks, too, that are that you would never think are going to be great at time trials, but they just, whether it's the position or they can find this zone and they get into this place where they can produce great results and suffer. By the way, I mean, in terms of her, I mean, she's, I think now of the last 11 time trials
Starting point is 00:07:17 she's done, she's won nine of them. One of them, she was not able to finish. So she basically wins every time trial. So she's got to figure out, right? This hurt locker. And with regards to the GC, you know, I keep as you're talking about, I agree with you. Like you get a writer like, doesn't matter that they're, if they can manage their efforts and minimize their losses and play the game. I still think this stage in Denise is tricky.
Starting point is 00:07:41 But look, she's got, don't think for a second, she's not thinking, she's not reading all of the reports of Paula Blossie getting a new contract coming to Movistar, allegedly, which I think, you know, most likely. who was also very close to her teammate in the time trial today separated by seconds, right? One second from Lamborghini. So Marlon knows that next year might be a different, she might be back to this role of supporting somebody else. I mean, she's in a perfect position. I love it. So I'm going to play one game before we talk about what we don't want to talk about. Jenga?
Starting point is 00:08:15 Never have I ever? No. Would you rather? Wait, what game is that? Never have I ever? Like you can say something like never have I ever. Bra maxed. Bra maxed.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And then like if you have, you take a drink or whatever. I was, we were, we were watching. With Mars tea. The bra maxing was, it continued to be talked about today. But the funny thing, and we're not going to talk about it. But I was at the house watching the race. And Anna just had kind of come down. I was making a cup of coffee.
Starting point is 00:08:45 And then they started talking about it on the coverage. And she was like, she hasn't been tracking. And she's like, what did they just say? Like she was so, I was like, honey, you just, just, you got to watch yesterday's show. Like, I don't know. Like, we had fun with it. But to her, like the average, but, you know, listen to. It was in the news, though, today because someone sent me a Fox News thing that it had gotten published in the news.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yeah. And Liz brought up yesterday. This is, this is, you know, these sports that are not, you know, one of the big five, right? We had, of course, the ski jumping at the winter Olympics last year with the men when there was like, cock maxing or something, package maxing. And that's the only time I ever knew ski jumping was going on that these dudes, you know, saying it like, I mean, it was. Some might mean need more help than others.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I don't know. I feel like I could say the C word because we're on peacock. So it's just like in there, a peacock maxing. Peacock maxing. That works. Rooster today was doing a 60 front chain ring. I think it's a great idea. 60-tooth front.
Starting point is 00:09:52 chain ring by a 10 in the back. That's crazy. Yep. So my question, would you rather, time trial or mountain top finish, Lance? I would always rather have a mountaintop finish. Time trials are, you know, it's funny. You're alone. The efforts are not long. You know, today was not a flat time trial,
Starting point is 00:10:12 but not that hard. Like, it's, they make you nervous. If you get everything about it makes you nervous. The preparation, the warm up, the equipment. the skin suit, everything about it, the pacing of it. Like, you can really mess, you can mess up a warm up and have a terrible time trial. The road race are an uphill finish with 200 other people. You get in there, you feel your way around, you look at everybody else.
Starting point is 00:10:36 You see the climb and are like, okay, let's all, I'll race you to the top. Like, it's not, there's not a lot of thought that goes, you have to get, obviously, nutrition right and your team has to be right. But there's a lot of less nerves in that. Yeah. For me, I would do the time trial. Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 00:10:51 You know, I mean, there's not like, yeah, I 100% dislike the suffering by yourself, pushing yourself against the clock. Yes, easy answer. Amazing. You know, our, we, we, I mean, Pauline, we have, you know, she's, there's sort of three favorites here, right? Demi Vollering, Cassie Neodoma, and PFP, right? Pauline for a provo.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Who, of course, is the defending champion. And there was a lot of questions about, This woman has won world championships in every discipline, road cycling, cycle across, mountain bikes. So then you just start to think, well, she can ride any bicycle, right? That's what I would say if they gave us tricycles. She would be good. But she could have been better. We looked at our position.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And they, you know, they talked a lot in the coverage now whether or not we really know about just quote unquote how much time they had spent working on this. And I don't know. I mean, if I'm getting texts from Johann Brunel saying, I cannot believe this position, this is the worst, and I love the girl. This is the worst time trial position. And one of the worst performances in a time trial that we've ever seen. I mean, it was hard to watch almost. And where does that get us?
Starting point is 00:12:09 I mean, she has her work cut out for her now. Like this race is, she may have lost the race today. I mean, the interesting thing, though, is like, position on the bike is something that you could control. You know, I mean, you can't necessarily. control the road or, you know, it's she going to be a great time trialist, but you could, with the amount of time that it sounded like they worked on it, actually have dialed in the position better because from what it looked like, it looked like the bike wasn't even comfortable to ride. I mean, it looked unstable as how high there was in the stack that was
Starting point is 00:12:38 there just made no sense. No sense. Super wobbly around there. I definitely wanted that time trial over for her sake. Yeah. And you saw her at the vision. And we like her. She was glad. I love her. At the finish, boy, they showed her. I was like, that woman is glad that's over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:54 She was, we were happy to. She was Ms. Yeah. And it just goes to show. I mean, this is a really specialized discipline here that, that, uh, oh. Well, we didn't expect the time gaps to be so big either when we were talking about it yesterday. So, I mean, it was definitely a hard course. She loses two minutes, 13 seconds to Marlon Rouser.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Mm-hmm. That is, that's a lot of time. It's a lot more than I said. And you can't help yourself, but think about the first four stages before, three or four stages before this and just how does she look? Is she in position? Is she letting gaps open like yesterday? Then you see this.
Starting point is 00:13:35 And now you see the work that's cut out for her. I don't know. I mean, I think today, Demi Bollering is a big winner. I mean, she looked great. She got third in the time trial. She's, but of those big three, Demi's right there. Cassia did a decent ride. But I'm worried about PFP.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Yeah. Well, it'll make up on two and tomorrow really exciting. She has to. I mean, that's it. I mean, if you're sitting at home going, I don't know what's going to happen. We can promise you what's going to happen. Assuming she has the legs, because you still have to have the legs, she now has to open up the race. It has to be super aggressive.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Two minutes is two minutes. So it starts tomorrow? I don't know that it will start. I think tomorrow's we're going to get to tomorrow. I think it's a very hard day. I think I don't know that it's a day where you. We could open this race up and take time back. But you can certainly soften people up.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And then the stage in Devont, up on to the stage in the knees, she has opportunities, but I still got to have the legs. And can we give a nice little soft round of applause to C grade and her beautiful day in yellow? I mean, she had a hell of a day yesterday. She started to say, you know, I did enough time traveling yesterday. We were rooting for her. We were. I want to also point out, Kristen Faulkner had a nice ride getting her sixth place.
Starting point is 00:14:48 because she's struggled a little bit this year, bringing it back together again. And I think that shows that she's back on track to, you know, being at the top of her game again. But just the secret knows, too, that we are huge fans. And Mari is the nice one sitting at the table here. And your face watching her time trial, I thought you like. You think I'm so nice.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I thought you actually might tear up. Like, we wanted her to do well. And then we just saw it. She had an 85K time trial yesterday. She's new to the pro tour or the world tour, whatever they call it. World Tour. She's got a stage win on the tour. She had a day on yellow.
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Starting point is 00:17:16 That was in June. Super fun. Already had it? Yeah. I thought it was around the time of Leadville. They moved it. I think that's good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:22 You had these weird, I mean, this was always. Remember that one year I did Leadville and Steamboat the next day? I was like, this sport. Okay, this fucking sport. Leadboat, I did, let boat. This sport. Take it for me. This sport is weird.
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Starting point is 00:17:50 So, I don't know. On Monday, just go do an Iron Man or whatever. Hey, you were giving me feeds. You were giving encouragement out there in Leadville. You're being a nice guy. Bullshed bourbon for you. That's accurate. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:04 All right. All right. Just to recap, the big three. And let's just use, although maybe Marlon Rooster starts to play. I think we got to put Marlon in there too. I would say she needs to be in there, even though she's not as punchy of climbers, I mean, is the others, but she's a diesel and she. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I mean, I hedge a little because I've gone to. I've done it so many times and I've raced it so many. It is so hard. Yeah. That is the hardest climb in France. Bar none, full stop, end of discussion. It is very, very hard. But if you go off the other, as we talked about in the pre-show, the other three,
Starting point is 00:18:42 Demi, let's just call her level time. Cassia, 55 seconds. She also has to open up the race. 55 seconds is a lot. Demi Vollering can climb. Demi Vollering does have a team to support her. PFP, 159 down on Demi. I mean, this is...
Starting point is 00:18:57 Game on. And Marlon knows Demi. I mean, they've been... They were teammates for years. She knows how Demi rides. She, you know, if there's anyone who's probably going to be able to figure out how to ride their race against her, it would be someone who's been around her for so long. Control your controllables.
Starting point is 00:19:15 And I think Marlon's got that down as a TT. Specialist. And a doctor. And a doctor. By the way, the Peloton is smart. The women's Peloton is incredibly intelligent. Well,
Starting point is 00:19:22 I think Paula Blasey also, she's right there with Lisa Longo-Bergini still after working and everything. So we'll see. She said she's going to let the road do the talking. And she's been working and still doing very well. So that's going to be an interesting one to watch too. She's 58 seconds behind Demi. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:38 The race was in the race. The UAEGC battle. Yes. 46K an hour on a very hilly course. or a course with a climb in the middle of it. And Wendy. I said 27 minutes yesterday. I wasn't far off.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Well, you were right. Let's see. How far off were you? 27 seconds. Something like that. Yeah. That's not bad. I did okay.
Starting point is 00:20:00 You didn't even take a stab at it. So I went. I went. Talk about tomorrow. Let's look at tomorrow stage. Tomorrow is exciting, though. That's true. Tomorrow is exciting, guys.
Starting point is 00:20:10 We do get to watch it according to my reports from kilometer zero. So stage five, we watch. watch from kilometer zero and we'll also be able to have up stage nine. I'm from kilometer zero and knees. That's exciting. Another one of these starts that stresses. These ladies are going to go to bed tonight thinking about this start straight out of the gate, category two climb, 10K, not too steep, but it's, you know, it's a category two.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And they're tired and it's hot. It's projected. I looked at the weather for the finish. It's approaching 90. So you can just basically at a 6 p.m. European time finish this entire stage. It's going to be hot. I mean, you saw a lot of Capeke having so many issues the other day with the heat. And you could see it, too.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Yesterday at the finish, she was weaving across the line practically when she won. So that's, you know, not just her effort, but the heat affecting a lot of those things. One, two, three, four, five, six. A lot of categorized climbs. Seven or eight categorized climbs. I'm the guy from plain over the math. 10,000 feet of vertical gain. That's good.
Starting point is 00:21:14 In this heat, that's intense. You know, halfway through the tour, never flat. Well, and these kinds of climbs are the kind that really wear on you because it's not like you can just get in a rhythm and ride. It's kind of like people are attacking. You're going hard up the climb. It's just constant. It's not something where you can set a pace and get yourself comfortable. So I think we're going to see a lot of, you know, tragedy out there tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It's going to be more sad pandas for sure because this like, like, our dash sad pandas. No, but this region of France, like we do the Tour of Ardash. Like these roads are like back to your chips. They're slow roads. They're slow, narrow. And the descents are like shockingly hard. Like they're very like technical and twisty. The climbs and like even like non-categorized climb can be super hard.
Starting point is 00:21:59 So I think the Tour of Our Desh like in these roads, I know a lot of these climbs is one of our hardest stage races. And we're basically doing a stage of it tomorrow in the middle. Also time bonus with about 20K to go. That's going to be. Yeah. One of the fact that the last climb is. a category two. If a break hasn't gone, we'll probably see something like we did the other day where
Starting point is 00:22:18 the DC riders attack each other. As I sit here and stare at the profile, that last climbs 3K at almost 8%. The top of it is only 11K from the finish. And you've got a factor, and you can see it there on the profile, significant downhill. So to your mind, you're saying, listen, maybe this is the red, the races to the top here. I'll figure out the rest. I'll figure out the downhill. Well, and we'll see if Demi and we'll see.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Marlin how they play it. If someone like, you know, PFP attacks on that last one, who's going to be doing the chase is Demi going to make Marlon do everything? Or is she like what's going to happen? I'm worried about PFP. I don't know. Let's be honest. Kasi always does the first attack.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Well, I guess we should say Kassi will always do the first attack. Come on. But no, get this, though. The sprint lands is 600 meters before the last climb. So they do the bonus sprint and then you go up the climb and it doesn't look super hard. but the last second half rarely goes below 10%. That looks hard. Yeah, it's a hard.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It's a hard finish climb. So they do the bonus sprint. So it's a perfect launch into that last climb. And then 10.7K mostly downhill into the finish. So I think it's going to be a ballistic race personally. They actually do break down this final climb. If you look at this profile here. The second half should be like super hard.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Oh, yeah. It's a second half. 10.5. 9.5. 10.2, 11.5%. So this is the, just hold my beer. This is going to be fun. Well, and we get to watch the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah. I've been getting up early. Yeah, yeah. It'll be good to watch it. My internet was a little weird today. In the mean streets of Aspen? The mean streets of Aspen. But we got it.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I watched out my iPad, but. Who's your call for tomorrow? Oh, gosh. Reduce G. Launchpad. I think Damie wins a stage. I think Demi wins the stage. I'm with you?
Starting point is 00:24:13 Do we just do that? We agree on something. Wonder Twin Powers activate. All right. No more of these cute, weird things, y'all do. All right. Let's listen to our callers. Coltman, what do we got here on?
Starting point is 00:24:29 Hey, Lance is Brian. I was watching that stage three. I know it's already over. I was just watching your commentary after the fact. You know what was surprising to me is it really felt like when you were watching it on TV that the Peloton in the last 10, 15 kilometers, because they almost kind of sat up, or at least that was the impression I was had. I was just kind of curious if that was the take you had on that or comments accordingly.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I'll let y'all take a stab at that. I think we agree. Yeah, we agree. They did basically sit up because everything had been neutralized behind, and they didn't think that she would be able to hold on to the yellow jersey. Are we talking about yesterday's stage? Yesterday's, right? Yeah, stage three.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I'm getting them all confused. Once I think you had the hitters. there was a smaller group up there. And then they look around. And the only one that was really motivated was LaCourt because she had the opportunity to be in yellow. Everyone's like, now that's fine. And then once you get Voss and Vanderbrigan back in that group, it's like, eh.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Like, they all neutralize each other, right? You know how that goes, Lance. It's just what's the point? So, yes. Well, they were saving it for today. Today, tomorrow. Yeah. The future.
Starting point is 00:25:34 All right. Caller number two. Hi, Mari. Allison Lamb, I've been really enjoying the show. my question is about tires and sponsorship. When you guys were racing, did you always use the tires that were the team sponsor tires?
Starting point is 00:25:49 And is that a common thing for racers to pick out the tires that they like and just ride those, even though the team had different tires. Thanks very much. You guys doing great. Thank you. I felt like he was live.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I was like talking. You know you're tired from podcasting in July. and into August when you're responding to somebody's voicemail. Hey, man, I appreciate it. Okay. It's a good question. It is a good question. It is a good question.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And I think it's an even better question now because, at least for my take, the tires and the tire pressure and the tire technology has become, it's been a game changer, the way I view it. So it's, but, but, but, and I'll just give a short answer and let the ladies jump in. I mean, you're locked in. You're locked. You're locked. Unless I miss something here, you are locked. then to whoever is sponsoring the team. I know in our day it was Hutchinson was our sponsors.
Starting point is 00:26:46 We had to ride Hutchinson tires. They were paying to sponsor the team. I mean, it would be like on a car racing team. Of course, in Formula One, the tires are, they sponsored the entire series. So everybody rides or drives with the same tire technology. But we had Hutchinson. So we had to be like being on a NASCAR team that was sponsored a good year or whatever. And you say, no, I want to rock Pirelli's.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Can't do that. Not going to happen. Yeah. And by the way, that's not always ideal. The team and the team management might take a little more money from an inferior company or somebody that's just a little behind when it comes to tire technology. And that's not just tires, though.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I mean, it goes across the board. Sure. I would say they are not all riding sponsor correct tires. I have definitely, I mean, I think you've seen this where you get leaks in the tour where maybe it's prototype, things that aren't launched yet. I know legally they have to be available to sell like at the bike frame. You know, UCI has these rules, but you could be riding a new prototype tire, a different brand branded as your sponsored tire.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I have done that. I mean, there's the old Sharpie technique, you know, that's a thing, just sharpie out labels. But now photographers are so good, social media, people catch things. But I have written non-sponsor correct tires that are labeled as sponsor correct tires. And that, like, I mean, racing gravel too, like tires are a huge thing as well, of course. So, like, I wouldn't bet that everyone's doing sponsor correct. But the teams, no, that's with, like, permission from the management. And usually they've cleared it with the sponsor and made sure they're labeled appropriate.
Starting point is 00:28:18 So there's no, like, throwing anybody under the bus or losing money. Well, on these teams, there's no way that they would be able to do it without their mechanics knowing that that's what was happening. Yeah. So, I mean, the mechanics would be having to do it. So, yeah, but agree. Yeah. And there has been, what I will say, I mean, without naming names and naming teams, there has been. programs in the past where tires have just started to fail.
Starting point is 00:28:41 We saw them in the tour this year. Yeah, whether they're blowouts or whether they're just, they just are not sticky enough. And the riders just say to the teams that we can't ride. We cannot race on these tires. And they will make a switch. Now, they'll have to, they got some, you know, like Laverne and Shirley, Ricky,
Starting point is 00:28:57 you got some splainant to do. But they would have to, they got some splainter to do the sponsor. But if you're jeopardizing the safety of the riders, you've got to make a switch. but that's there's a lot of great tire tech. Look, I don't follow a bunch of bike tech these days, but my favorite thing is just the tires and going tubeless and going lower pressure and less flats.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I mean, it's so amazing. The technology. The bike's incredible. You know, buddy of mine's doing an Iron Man and he's still rocking like some, you know, maybe an arrow rim with tubes. And he's like, where do I buy speed? Where do I find speed?
Starting point is 00:29:32 I'm like, well, get off those wheels and those tires. Probably not a great. right bike handler. I said, here, buy these wheels, put these tires on. You will think that you're in a Cadillac. Like, it's going to be amazing. It's been to me the biggest shift. And same, same goes for the mountain bike, too. Yeah. I mean, this is good life. And gravel. A mountain is on wider tires are a lot faster. I ride 32mm my road bike now. And, you know, the advice for everybody is just lower, lower tire pressure is lower life pressure. It really is. That's a good one. And people say, well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:04 The way I translate that is there's more rubber touching the ground. Yeah. Right. So whether and if it rains or if it does get slick, you want rubber on the ground. Yeah. It's good for aerodynamics, safety, grip. Yeah. Look at you getting bike dork over there.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I'm such a bike dork. We did time trials back in the day with both tires, front and rear, 19 mil, pumped up to 140. I know. You know, I mean, talk about uncomfortable. This was like riding on a world champion. This was like riding on a steak knife. I mean, and we were like, these are so arrow. They're so fast.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And, you know, and they, tires are blowing up. But times have changed. So, all right, well, good thing. We get to get up very early and watch the entire stage. So excited. There will be bodies everywhere. Fireworks. Bad pandas.
Starting point is 00:30:59 If you're in the Tour de France, Famabek, Zwift, Ignore that. It's going to be hard tomorrow. Oh, and they should call us again. Our number, our voicemail. Oh, yes. Call us. Call Lance's personal number at 970-718-2736.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Or maybe he plays answers. We don't know. I will not be answered. But it'll respond. In real time. Hey, man, thanks a lot. Just follow-up thing. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:31:30 All right, everybody. Thanks for tuning in. We will see you tomorrow. Right and early. Okay. Three, two, one. Bye.

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