THEMOVE - Textbook tactics by UAE ft. Sir Bradley Wiggins | Tour De France 2024 Stage 14 | THEMOVE

Episode Date: July 13, 2024

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if we get a hundred a yonas at 100 the gap is still within reach i mean we saw yonas right away from pogachar last year put a couple minutes on him or you know chipped away at his time gap if we get yonas back to 100 we still got a race on our hands it's not over the only caveat to that george is this visa melissa bike team is not they're not what they were before all right everybody welcome back to the move podcast brought to you each and every day by ketone iq and as a matter of fact uh sir bradley told me just a second ago he has had three shots of ketone iq today three and he was sort of joking that it's just crossed the blood brain barrier so i figure out how many you had, G? One. That was great.

Fired up, ready to go. Three to one. Oh my god, I feel good. My barrier must be thinner than Bradley's because I already feel it. Talking about stage 14. Alain, what happened? Where did we go? Stage 14 from Poe to

Salary Soulant, Pladadé. Oh. From Poe to Salary Soulant, Pladadé. Pladadé. Pladadé. My understanding is that someone at this table won at that peak. 2005. I got to sit on the breakaway the whole day.

Free ride to finish. Had a good day. Got the W. Got the W. That was good. Free ride to the finish. Had a good day. Got the W. That was good. 2005 was a fun year. It was just a bonus year. It's like, alright, I guess I'll do another

one of these. I was like, gee, over there winning stages in the Pyrenees. I was like, shit, this is easy. It was fun. You had Hollywood coming out. You had Hollywood there. And had all the Hollywood coming out. Yeah, the Hollywood there. Yeah. Yeah. And then you decided to come back.

Moving on. Second stage win for Tadej Pogacar. We're going to get into all that action. Also, and I think it's worth talking about, I thought they rode a good race. I know we were hard on them the other day. As Sir Bradley said on the way down to the studio, he's like, well, I'm afraid they may ace at your words today. I'm not Irish. But they rode a smart race.

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did just cross the blood brain barrier yeah I'm feeling I'm fired up now for sure you gotta get I mean you like free shit I just had number four

did you really yeah oh dear god I'm thinking about number four well one of these days we'll have Michael on and I would like to know what the record is

how many the most anybody's ever had we might have asked him that before back to the race Michael what's the record is how many the most anybody's ever had we might have asked him that before back to the race michael what's the record straight here here three and a half three and a half okay that's a record you just broke a record sir bradley not yet another record that sir bradley holds yeah um look our job is to call it the way we see it uh the other day we did not understand what Pogo Chargers. I think you could even look at today and ask yourself, what are you thinking?

I want to get into that in a second. But the tactics were good. They controlled the race. It wasn't that hard. They kept the break there. This is what we said the other day. You have Adam Yates and you have guys like that. Just send them up the road.

Adam Yates goes up the road um and then and then todd a goes right and and i thought uh just as a spectator you know days like this and i'm curious y'all's opinion on this the last week is so demanding does this field see a stage like that and say my god we have five more they almost seemed reserved or am i making that up well i think one of our answers one of our questions have been answered today whether or not the other day when vindigo caught back up to him whether that was an over limit issue or a fuel issue and now it's looking like it was more like a fuel issue yeah ran out of fuel was hanging on for dear life and today he fueled properly and perhaps that level is a bit different.

But last year we did see a couple of days where Pogacar rode away from Mindego and then Mindego came back and rode away from him. So let's hope, fingers crossed, that happens in this final week of the Tour de France. Yeah. I think the difference today as well was when he went, of course, he sat on Adam Yates.

And then they summited, didn't they? And it went downhill a little bit and it instantly opened up the gap. He does open up the gap on on Jonas when it goes downhill and that sort of variation in terrain because then he really extended his lead into that final kilometer and um with a few bends and things like that um it does tend to suit Jonas when it's a bit more of a constant effort um and the minute it goes downhill Jonas as we saw the other day when he attacked instantly loses time but um hats off to Pogacar today. I said instantly when Adam Yates attacked.

Yeah. Mateo needs to go right now. And if it was a good Jonas, he would say, Mateo, let's go. Don't let this gap go. But that did not happen. And we could tell right away that perhaps he wasn't feeling great. He was a little reserved.

I mean, I said to you in the car, didn't I, Lance? You know, it seemed odd that he had to go and make more time up. I just sat with 115, but you said he must have potentially heard something within the peloton or within that group where he maybe told Jorgensen to slow down or something like that. Yeah, anything can. Look, these guys, they know each other very well. They know they've been around, and I'm talking about competitors like Pogatron, Vingegaard.

They've been around each other so much. I mean, we did the same thing. Like I could always tell when somebody was having an off day, you're just seeing what, and it's the smallest of things. You see the way they're sweating. You see if salt's accumulating. You see, maybe they have a cough or a little chest thing uh maybe they're just uncomfortable on the bike like you get to know these guys and we can't see that sitting on a couch in aspen colorado right and you can't and you can't understand it by listening to whatever commentary you're listening to you just can't

those guys in the race that are that are 12 inches away they see see these things. And here's a hypothetical, right? So he sends Jorgensen to the front to set a tempo. And we have seen this in the past where, and I don't know, Jorgensen's tempo seemed conservative in what it ought to be. But imagine a world where Vingegaard says, just ease up a bit. Just back it down a little bit. We have seen that, right? If Pogacar hears that, he has to go.

Now, these are hypothetical scenarios. So you just don't, and he didn't talk about it in his post-race press conference or his interview after the race. But who knows, right? But I'm with you. But now, two minutes. That's a nice lead i think and you know he got 30 what uh 36 seconds plus four extra time bonus seconds so he's four he's close to two minutes um and if you read the interviews i mean that was purely instinctual like they were not planning on attacking they just wanted to go for

the stage win go for the sprint they knew he's faster than vindigo typically in a sprint like that but it was just one of those moments where Adam Yates decided to attack. He felt some weakness. Went after him. 40 seconds. I was hoping they would say, why? Did you see something? Did you hear something? Because if I had to guess, he did.

I think he got the memo the other day. I think the team got the memo. I think they raced smart. I think something else happened in there. He was like, this guy's hurting today like this is a moment where i can go from 115 to two minutes which by the way is a big difference yeah yeah i mean that last time trial uh you don't want you don't want jonas vingergaard riding into this thing and and you only have a minute for example who knows but i think he sensed something and pounced, which is, hey, fair play. If we get a Jonas at 100%, the gap is still within reach.

I mean, we saw Jonas right away from Pogacar last year, put a couple minutes on him or chipped away at his time gap. If we get Jonas back to 100%, we've still got a race on our hands. It's not over. The only caveat to that, George, is this Visaisma Lisa bike team is not, they're not what they were before. And they have great riders and this is, they've been dealt a bad hand. They've had some crashes. They

lost Sepp Kuss before the race. Matteo Jorgensen can't do all the work. I mean, in order to open up this race up, you've got to have guys on the front and put Pogacar on the ropes. I mean, who's going to do that? They can't be in the old jersey right now. Otherwise, they'd be getting attacked like crazy by UAE.

It would be an absolute disaster. If that's, I mean, in that sense, that's a blessing. They'd get destroyed. Yeah. What's interesting with Jonas is that initial attack and that initial acceleration that he can't handle with Pogacar. Yep. Because once they get to their sort of cruising speed,

he manages to hold him pretty consistently. In fact, you said he was going to come back. Yeah, yeah. And then he was coming downhill. But, you know, if you took Pogacar out of the race, Younes is still miles ahead of everyone else in the race. Yeah. It's just that initial attack and that initial acceleration,

whether that comes from, obviously, lack of racing, lack of preparation because of the injuries he's had. But it's, you know, it's that constant speed. And Pogacar has that on him. And I think Pogacar now realizes that, because you give Jonas a sniff of being able to come back, as we saw the other day when he had the fueling problem. Jonas keeps grinding away.

He's like a diesel engine, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah, it's that whole tortoise and the hare thing. Yeah. But today, the hare won. Right? I mean, and you noticed uh tatis his demeanor and his face was different today very different yeah we even saw the the

display of emotion when he came across the line yep yeah and and and everything about his uh his attitude at the finish i mean i think that was a, I don't want to call it a relief, but, by the way, his 13th stage win in the Tour de France. 25 years old, 13 stage wins. And use his team the way we know how to use a team like that. Save them all to the end. Keep as many guys together as you can. Send your best guy up the road to put the other teams right away in the defensive.

I mean, that was a perfect tactic, one that many of us used in the day and one that we haven't seen him use this Tour de France. Like we've seen him go so early, blow up his own team, and put himself in a vulnerable situation. Today was absolutely perfect tactic. Yeah. And shout out to Remco. Yeah.

He's hanging around. And shout out to his team. Yeah. When Quickstep, team when Quickstep or whatever they call themselves has more guys than Visamalisa bike somebody's having a really good day

and another team's having a less good day but Remco's hanging out and if you look at the overall GC I mean he's and JB you brought this up in the pre-show he's fighting and JB, you brought this up in the pre-show, he's fighting for the podium. He is three minutes 40, 340 up on fourth place. Would you agree if Remco gets on the podium, gets third in the tour,

is a massive victory for Remco Evenepoel, right? Yeah, and we're hearing some. A lot of doubters for him in the tour. Us included. Let's not forget, Remco was in that crash with Jonas back in April. Yeah.

You know, it's, yeah, it's this great first tour. I mean, how many years has it been since a Belgian was on the tour podium at the Tour de France?

Wow. Mr. George? That's a good question. You're the historian. Why are you asking us? Lucien Van Impe, I'm going to say. No way.. Why are you asking us? Lucien Van Im. I'm going to say. No way.

Really? I'm going to say Lucien Van Im, but I might be way off the mark there. Johan, you listening? Johan's in his son's race right now, so he's probably not listening in, but he would know. Dang. We need to find that out. Colin? Colin, Google?

Illnesses continue to wreak some havoc in the belt on Tom Pitcock. It's getting scary. I feel like every day we're getting two, three, four, today maybe five guys. That's a scary scenario for the final week of the Tour de France. Yeah. I mean, Pitcock doesn't start. Garen Thomas. Hang on, I was born in Belgium.

I won the Tour. You are correct. Yeah. Do you have a Belgian passport? No, no, but I was born in Belgium. I won the tour. You are correct. Yeah. Do you have a Belgian passport? No, no, but I was born in Ghent. I know that. I was reading your Wikipedia because I'm studying for your podcast. We're doing an episode of the Forward.

Sir Bradley, you are correct. 1981. Yeah. Lucien Van Emers. Wow. There we go. That's a long time. Yeah.

I don't think that's enough for the Belgians. I think the belgians want a belgian tour winner um but uh back to the the illness thing uh garren thomas tests positive for covid if you believe what you read and continues in the race i mean like i said yesterday what a what a wild world we live in like eh he'll be all right just keep yeah that's a strange one isn't it considering how strict they were with that a few years ago. Yeah, so I wonder, he's probably totally on his own room. He's got to probably get his own transportation to the start.

That's a good way to get your own room. I'm sure he's still. This other pink line came up. Can I have my own room? Yeah, yeah. Well, it'll be interesting to see who he was rooming with anyway. Maybe he was rooming with Tom Pitko. Yeah.

Text him. He's your boy. Yeah, I'll go send him a message. I can't take my phone off airplane mode right now. Well, you're on Wi-Fi. You can still WhatsApp. We need you focused, Sir Bradley. Anything else?

I wanted to also just, because we've talked quite a bit about the green jersey, and I jumped the gun. I thought this is over. You know, he's won three stages. These guys are still, even a day like, you know, when you're all sitting at home, we see the uphill finish. We see that this is a day for climbers and for GC guys. Their sprint, there was one sprint early in the stage.

These guys are going for it. Guermay beat Jasper Philipson. So I think the most important headline there is he didn't lose any points. He actually gained a point on him. But for him, like, that's all. As soon as they get through that sprint and he gets, you know, some more points than Philipson, that's a good day. We continue to hear from Eritrea. I got some very important outreach yesterday.

By the way, I called my travel agent. She's funny. Babs funny i called babs i said did you understand what i was saying that uh you were on she's like yeah i'm like no no no like the podcast that's on uh you it's everywhere she says yeah i'm like no i don't think so anyway so then i sent it to her Sent it to her the minute that she came on No response And finally last night I was like you know that's not cool And so I texted her I said did you watch it

She writes back yeah That's it That's it Sounds like my wife just does not care what I do Oh boy oh boy And ladies and gentlemen, we will probably edit that. She won't hear it. We've just turned this into a... I can say anything.

Okay, then say it. I'd say I've got a side squeeze up here in Aspen. She's not going to hear it. She does not. That's why I married her. But, like, say something real. I don't have anything. I don't have anything damaging. Hey, before we move on to, like, tomorrow and all that,

I do want to talk about Remco and the rumor that Johan helped ignite yesterday. On J.B. Square. Okay. That he's going to be going to Red Bull Bora. Yeah. That's not surprising. No. No.

I mean, they've made it really clear in the press. They got the money. They want the money. They want the next young superstar. So paper talks. Yeah, they were all in on Roglic, but that's not going to happen. Interestingly enough, a story I heard last night. So something like this where Remco's got, I think, two years left on his deal. What's going to happen is they're going to have to buy him out of his contract,

which I did not know this. Sir Bradley Wiggin was bought out of a contract. I was. You care to share this story? Yeah. It's kind of interesting. I had a year left at Garmin after 2009, and Sky obviously wanted a British leader,

and they negotiated for months and eventually went to New York and got me out on the 9th of December. And you said it started at the Carrefour or something. You were walking around Carrefour. Didn't you say that? That was during the Tour de France on the rest day. Yeah.

Dave Brossard came out to France and I had to meet him at the Carrefour supermarket because it was against the rules to start negotiations with riders or even approach riders before the 31st of August or something like that.

Yeah, so think about this. And we're not going to say the amount of the contract, but you made... Well, hang on. Why not? He made three or four times the amount of money, but they also had to pay a lot

more than the actual total sum of that. It was nothing to do with paying me out of the contract. Yeah, exactly. It was, they had them by the balls. They had them, yeah. Yeah, they paid a little. But you were sort of stuck by the ball too, because you didn't have a team until December. But the point is, these teams with big budgets

are able to do that. I mean, no other team can go in there and take it. So Red Bull has got a huge budget. They can go in and probably pay Patrick Lefebvre a ton of money and then pay Remco a ton of money. So there we go. He goes to this team. I mean, it's kind of sort of unfair

because these team budgets are so, you know, the differences are so vast these days, but we're probably going to see something like that happen. I do need to point out you were wrong on the last Belgium on the podium. It was Jürgen Vandenbroek in 2010. Well, you were there. Weren't you third?

That's 2009. Oh, 2009. Jürgen Vandenbroek. There's no way. I don't remember that either. I'm sure he got fourth. Who said that? He got fourth, but someone got disqualified, though,

and he got upgraded. That's why. Jürgen actually finished fourth in that tour. Okay. All right. Well, there you go. I'm trying to think who it was. Contador.

It was the Contador tour. Because Andy Schleck won. Yeah, that was it. So he's officially, yeah. Well, so he's kind of on the podium. Yeah, but not in real time, is it? I mean, he's right. Six months later, Andy got handed the trophy.

I'm here to tell you real time. That doesn't work. It doesn't matter. But back to the real quick on the Remco rumor. We're talking about two different teams. There's one consistent thing here, right, between those two teams is specialize. Don't think for a second that they're not.

Yeah, true story. That's an easy, I mean, there's some, they're competing teams, but there's some synergy there, right? Yeah. So we'll get into tomorrow's stage, which is a doozy, here in a second. Today's show brought to you by Ketone IQ. We often hear that fasting and exercise are good for the brain. HVMN launched the world's first drinkable ketone in 2017.

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Which, by the way, Michael is also a beast of an athlete. He is. He runs like a gazelle. That's what I'm saying. Separated their endurance beast. I feel like there's... And Yates has another brother, Simon Yates. I don't know.

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I was all alone in this huge house. He's right on the river. I mean, he doesn't just get a house. He goes for the one. Did you see it? Yeah. I mean, he's right on the. You left out the fact that you kicked me out of the house.

No, I didn't. Yes, you did. You said you need to be gone by Friday afternoon. My daughter is coming home. The way you said it was like, when are you leaving again? I go, why? He goes, No, I didn't. Yes, you did. You said you need to be gone by Friday afternoon. My daughter is coming home. The way you said it was like, when are you leaving again? I go, why? He goes, well, I need you out by Friday. Which, let's get back on track here.

We'll tell the story in a second. How'd you sleep at that new house? Like a baby, actually. Of course you did. It must be nice to have no stress. The only stress in George's life is what other fancy friend can he call? What other fancy place can he stay in? That, my friends, is stressful.

Stress. I have to work with you every day. And thankfully, our friends at the feed sent me this new drink called Pillar Magnesium. It's very good for stress and sleep. And you're saying it works? Bro, I've been sleeping like a baby, catching some serious Zs. And like all the other things you left around the house that were half drunk, I did see that pineapple-coconut mix you had out there of the pillar.

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Nothing. All right, I'll get us back on track. No bad words. By the way, we're on Peacock today. No bad words. No bad words. Right. Hello, any new listeners on Peacock.

Welcome. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having us words. No bad words. Right. Hello, any new listeners on Peacock. Welcome. Thanks for having us on. We're excited. Tomorrow's stage, now someone else at this table has won there twice. So we hear. Are you familiar? Did you ever win up there? No.

Did you race it when you won the tour? No, we didn't go up there. Yeah, one of the listeners sent in that yours truly has won there twice. Now, I joke and kid on this show all the time and just make stuff up. I seem to recall you winning up there. No, and I seem to think that you had Roberto Harris do a similar thing that Adam Yates did when you won up there that year. And you jumped across to him. I might be wrong, but can we check that?

I seem to think it was 2002. That's very possible. Do you want to check that, Jamie? It's very possible, and I totally believe you. But this is no joke. That was then. This is now, right? And I don't even remember these things, but that's cool.

So whoever sent that in, thank you. Yeah, if we can pull up that profile. I mean, that's a beast of a profile the hardest day of the tour de france uh yet wouldn't you agree oh i mean look at this look at the start 7k uphill start this is an absolute nightmare this is the one for 95 of the peloton that's gonna hurt so bad uh from the start Here's the kicker, right? The stage is 200 kilometers, more or less. It's 198 kilometers, so call it 200. You got to go up there.

Normally, you go over the pure sword at the end of a stage, sort of leading up to a big uphill finish. And you're like, oh, my God, the pure sword's a beast. That's a start. You're going to get to the top. And you've done seven kilometers. And you've got 191 kilometers. This is a dreaded start for especially i mean guys like cav yeah guys and let's not forget we're in the southern part of france now

gonna be hotter i don't know did we check the did we do what's the guy's name uh troy kim watch your little troy kimmeling and the weather they're they're they've got good weather these days it was it was cool today and tomorrow i I think the high is 79 and clear skies. So that's good riding weather. We started that climb, Col de Paris-Sour, then we have the Col de Mente, I'm probably pronouncing it wrong, and the Col de Port-a-Spet, which are two

nasty, nasty steep climbs. They're almost 10% on average. I remember them quite well. Very, very tough. And then we have our huge valley. So there's going to be some guys that are, you know, these climber guys that aren't getting any love because Pogacar keeps wanting to win the stages. I mean, they don't have many chances.

They've got to try to get away early. It's going to be super aggressive from the start, really hard. We all know what they call it, Porta de Asperas, don't we? Why? They seem to think that's the descent that Fabio Castellari does. Yeah, exactly. didn't we? Why? I seem to think that's the descent that Fabio Castellani does. We'll have to look at the map, but they might go right by the monument.

And back to the weather real quick. I mean, that makes a difference. I mean, it's nice to ride in those temperatures, but you talk about a guy like Pogacar who does seem to have those days. I mean, if you had a day where it was in the 90s or in the 30s celsius it makes those more likely cooler temps probably better for him but there's a beast of a day 4,800

meters of climbing so whatever that is in feet uh 20 more than today uh rest day the following day yes i'm gonna go ahead and call something out yeah I'm going to say Jonas just had a bad day today. He's going to regroup. I mean, we've seen the guy is sort of a robot when it comes to that. We saw him regroup the other day when he got dropped from Pogacar. Today he couldn't quite claw it back, but I'm not giving up hope on him, and I think he's going to really try to rally tomorrow, especially the day before rest day.

Pogacar can now technically go more on the defensive. He's got a two minute lead so it's up to Wiesman now to start making some action happen and I think we'll see some well not think we're going to see some fireworks and I hope Jonas firing them off I don't think the equation has changed

if he's sitting in the hospital in the Basque country and now you get to tell him you're two weeks into the Tour de France and you're entering that third week and you're less than two minutes down. Do you take the deal? He still takes the deal. So he's winning in a lot of ways.

Now, if he wants to win-win, he's got to go, you know, something has to happen. But he still takes that deal. Yeah, I agree 100%. Tomorrow is going to be a really pivotal day in the Tour de France. I was surprised they lost well. They're not quite as early as they did today. Agreed. He just doesn't seem to be firing as good as he has been in the past.

He's right up and down, isn't he? We swam yet second. We're not used to seeing Wiesma lease a bike with one or two guys on a final climb. We're used to seeing them with Sepp Kuss and three or four other guys. So, you know, it's definitely changing the dynamic of the race. But I'm not giving up hope on Jonas. Speaking of two weeks, it's also our two-week anniversary of living together, Lance. Should we do like a little cheers or something?

I mean, how's it been? Have you enjoyed it as much as I have? I loved it. I love you. I do, and I love having you around. I do. I was a little sad last night. I mean, you're never at home for dinner because you're out whining and dining.

But I had to make the coffee myself. You did? Which made it kind of weak this morning. Oh, yeah. It was a little bit weak. But we did have our boy, Colton, catch a special moment, which I feel in our history. You might want to check it out. I feel like we should set it up, though.

This is George. I never saw this coming. I've known you a very long time. we're going back to boy 1989 at the olympic training center that's a long time i never thought that i'd ever see the day that george becomes a filmmaker and not just a filmmaker i found my new uh my new um yeah purpose yeah a filmmaker a writer a producer all of these things. And I got to say, this stuff's pretty good. I think we're going to roll the latest.

And a model. I would add model to that. Let's roll the latest. Well, I always knew it was a model. QVT. This is going to get us banned from YouTube. The SAG was on purpose, y'all. Ordered XXL.

Tidy Whities. Ordered XXL. Tidy whiteys. Oh, my God. So bad. Holy shit. Is that George Hain, Captain? Oh. Yeah, thank you. Hey, good morning, bro.

Good morning. Coffee ready? This is what it's like. Two weeks of this. Every day. Directed by George Hincapie. Now, what, as the director, really as the creator of this piece of content, I'm just curious about the porn music that you searched out.

I did not pick the music. I'm just, you know... I mean, that was some Boogie Nights stuff right there. That was Boogie Nights. I did not pick the music, but it fit well with the video, I think. Good times, I'm going to miss you. That's for sure.

All right. Likewise. Vintim Trivia. Yeah. And I've got some great emails with some visuals, too, for those of you who watch the show. Stick around. But yesterday's question was, last November, Germany's Amazon Prime released a documentary on Jan Ulrich.

What was it called? English or German title? We accepted. The answer was The Hunted or Der Gejagte, as in Jager, it's hunting. Today's question. Did anybody get that one? I don't know. I don't get the answer.

That's a tough one. That's the toughest one so far. This is a tough one. Which Ventum employee twice won the U.S US Pro Crit National Championship and was runner up at the US National Champs Road Race? Bart Bowen. No. Wow. Now that's a blast from the past.

Send your answer to VentumRacing.com slash the move. Where's Bart Bowen from? Come on, man. Come on. He's the only bike racer ever from there that I know of. I don't even know where he's from. I remember watching that Triple Crown video when I was a kid.

This was 30 years ago, and he was on there. I can't remember. Tell me. Albuquerque. Albuquerque, okay. Really? Interesting. All right.

We've got some good emails and some visuals here. This is Patrick in L.A. who wrote to us before. This is part two because it's really good. I've been saving it. Sir Bradley has some of the greatest careers when it comes to hairstyles. I do. I've included a few of my favorites. Okay.

Here's some of his iconic hairstyles through the years. Oh, yeah. That's when we got arrested. Kid Vicious. He gave them names, too. Kid Vicious. So you are getting it wrong. Oh, whoa.

That's a good one. What is going on? Trucking Liam Gallagher. Okay. All right. All right. All right. Okay.

Then he got serious there. Okay. Motherfucker. No, that's going out, too. All right. Whoa, Justin Bieber. He looked here. We got the Justin there. Okay. Motherfucker. No, that's going out too. All right. Whoa, Justin Bieber. He looked here. We got the Justin Bieber.

Wow. What is happening here? The Neo. That was my Charles Manson look. That's from like The Survivor or Charles Manson, yeah. That's the last one. Wait, he had a bleached blonde hair look that he showed us in the interview from yesterday. Remember?

So that was from 2002. That's when we all wrote Game Together. Yeah. Hey. Wow. Good work. I mean, what did you say, John? Patrick.

Patrick. Patrick. We've used two of his messages. Has Jimmy Casper sent in any questions? No, he sent a mysterious package. All right. It has been two weeks. We, too, are getting tired.

Hey, here's a good one. Imagine riding this thing. It's so hard sitting here talking about it. Here's a good one. You guys are fans of Magnus Korg, yes? Yep. Yeah, I think he's an aggressive rider. I think he's a riot.

I'll never, you know, he did that whole helicoptering thing. Do you remember that one? He was the one that after he would put on, have you ever heard this? That's right. I forgot about that. This Magnus Kort. Yeah. Right.

He's a Danish guy. Yeah. He gave an interview. He won a stage or something. And they were like, wow, what do you do after the stage? He's like, oh, I go to my room. And he named some Scandinavian metal band that nobody's ever heard of. He goes, I put them on, put a volume on 10.

And I get naked and i just helicopter around the room and we're like wait hell it okay same guy he's a hoot yeah i mean you gotta be funny to say stuff like that okay this this is really good what the what i'm going to share with you because you guys have always talked about how sometimes you're in a bad hotel right sometimes it can be great sometimes bad i was like yeah these these are diva cyclists but I'm going to share with you because you guys have always talked about how sometimes you're in a bad hotel, right? Sometimes it can be great, sometimes bad. I was like, yeah, these are diva cyclists. You're exaggerating a little bit.

But we got a message and it said, we'd love to get Lance, George, and Sir Bradley's perspective on Magnus Cortz giving each of his Tour de France hotel rooms a detailed review daily on Instagram. Oh, that's cool. He does one out of seven stars and I've got some images of most recent room he's in. He said one night in this room, it's one of the worst places I've stayed in many years. I was welcomed by the long concrete corridor that smelled exactly like it looked old abandoned bunker, a smell that takes me back to my childhood, exploring abandoned places. And any time you're expecting some old, angry man coming, screaming at you that you're not allowed to be there. But this time around, we had to stay the night.

The room was no better. Look at the floor, please. I mean, I watched I watched Dateline last night. Let me tell you something. You throw some blue light up on that floor, there is no telling what comes. But that's it, folks. But here's the other thing. I mean, most, not most, but about half of them, let's say, are like that.

And you don't know, right? And you can try to look ahead in the hotel, the book you get before the race, and kind of guess. And some of them you know. You've been there before. Like, that night is a great a great night like i know the owner of the hotel they're super sweet we had that uh many many years but and then all of a sudden they'll spring some five star on you yeah and you're like it makes a huge difference he went on to say that it just was like 100 humidity in the room he said he'd have to go down two flights of stairs just to pee in the middle night so he just peed in a jar.

So when we, in 2012, by 2012, Team Sky, this was part of the marginal gain thing. We'd have our own mattresses. Every rider had their own mattress. They'd bring that. The Swan Years would take that into the rooms before we arrived. They'd have our own bedding. So you'd have the same mattress and bedding every night. They'd put it on top of the bed that was in the room.

You'd have an air conditioner unit that would plug in with the thing in case there was no air con. An air purifier. So we'd have all those things. They were the marginal gains things. So you'd have, you know, you try and control your... You had like a whole truck full of sleeping stuff, right? That's a lot of work for all the staff. I mean, it's like, you know,

they pack your bedding up in the morning as well as your suitcase. I'm sure the best team to do that now, too, right? I'm sure so, yeah. But Dave Brelsa did want to move that on, that every rider had their own camper van. Yeah. And we'd park in those, but obviously the race organizers wouldn't allow that. Richie Poore tried it in the gym, didn't he? Yeah.

I think they rolled up with his own RV. That was from Jack in Ann Arbor. Thanks for sending that. It's Magnus Cord on Instagram. He's reviewing every one. It's great. I think it highlights. Here we're talking about one of the biggest annual sporting events in the world.

And they have the same places like that. You can compare it to all the other big sports, Formula One, soccer, big global sports. And then you see that stuff. And, by the way, too, this is also the hardest sporting event in the world. Can you imagine Djokovic who's made the Wimbledon final staying in a place like that? No, I cannot. I cannot imagine. I cannot imagine.

Man. A couple more, just for fun. Because we've only got, what, one more day with Sir Bradley. To really get Lance going, imagine if cycling had similar rules to random additional minutes of soccer. The sprinters or leaders would get to the Tour de France stage finish line, and then the official would say, actually, you got 250 more meters of racing.

That's from Mike in North Vancouver. I agree. I agree. That's why we have... There is a race within cycling that exists that has that has those rules. And it's called the unknown distance race on the track. I didn't even know about this.

Whoa. So you race around, and only the commissars and the judge know what the distance is, and they'll ring the bell, and you've got one lap to go. It's called unknown distance. So you could start, do one lap, and they could ring it? Yep. Or you could do 25. No clue.

Okay. i had no idea that existed me neither but you can imagine the uh the um that leading to things like bribery and betting and all sorts if you're just getting the judges here and one more from tracy because i think i did see something thrown at or somebody contact with Pogacar. Yeah. Uh, Tracy writes, um,

for all of you, have any of you ever had to physically protect yourselves from crazy fans at the top of these mountain climbs, perhaps swatting them out of the way or a bit of a head, but this is Tracy in Florida. Oh, I have actually. Mon Ventoux 2009.

There's footage of it on YouTube. We can find that. I literally had to push a spectator out of the way because he was coming in the road and we were getting

a bit close. Yeah. I don't think I did. But then again, I don't remember much. You were on that stage, Mont Ventoux. You guys were battling that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was in front of whom? You won in 2009? No. No. I won this race right here. That was a hard one, too. Crosswind battle to the base of Maman 2.

I remember it quite well. You remember that, Bradley, don't you? Well, the crosswind battle. Yeah, I remember the crosswind battle. Yeah, it's only like 30 guys at the bottom. I was still there, chill. Yeah. Do you feel like you get to relive your life here on the show?

Well, especially with these two guys. I mean, we have endless amounts of stories. If you guys can just sit at dinner with us, it's pretty funny. All right. Send your questions in. The move at wedo.team. Yeah. All right.

Tomorrow, big day. And if you want to get up early, I mean, I might even, I don't know if I can DVR it or something. I mean, the start's going to be. I'll be up early. You will be watching the start. What time does it start? It's a long stage. For us, it's like 5, 5, 5.

They'll start earlier. It'll be maybe even earlier. But nasty day, big day of climbing, and we'll see. Again, like we said a minute ago, I think Ben Gagard takes this deal two months ago when he's in the hospital, but now's the time. We've got to start. If you took the deal and you came here to win, now you've got to start maybe retrading the deal.

So we'll see. I think he's going to regroup and come out hard tomorrow. I'm with you. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. We'll see you tomorrow. We'll see you tomorrow. © transcript Emily Beynon