THEMOVE - The Green Jersey Battle is not over | Tour De France 2024 Stage 16 | THEMOVE

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

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We got to go back on what we said the other day, which was 100% Vindigo beats 100% Pogacar most of the time. But Vindigo said he rode his best performance ever. His best loss per kilo. Pogacar put a minute on him. Yeah. So he's got to only really, you can't hope that his level gets better. He's got to hope that Pogacar has a bad day, cracks, which is highly unlikely, but it's possible. Third week of tour, you never know what can happen all right everybody welcome back to the move podcast brought to you each and every

day by keytone iq we're talking about stage 16 alan stage 16 from grissant to Nîmes. From Grisson to Nîmes. Love that. Love that. Love all that. Yet another hat trick in this Tour de France. We first saw Benyam Gourmet, Tadej Pogacar, and now Jasper Philipsen, which, folks, you can just start to do the math, right? We've had 16 stages.

Right there's nine of them uh we're gonna break down some of the teams that are that that and george and i were just talking about like these are teams that came to the tour of france for one one purpose one goal it's win a stage and there are a whole lot of teams that are stageless uh but we'll talk about all that in a second and and and before we do i guess uh as for phillipson you know perfect perfect sprint perfect kids perfect lead out you want to be a sprinter and you're dreaming of a lead out and what that looks and feels like just go watch today yeah i mean it doesn't hurt you got Matthew Vanderpool as your final man, but that's a dream lead out.

Yeah, when you see a guy like Vanderpool in front of your sprinter with a K to go, it's almost like no chance anybody can go around them. He's going to take you to 250 meters to go or 200 meters to go, and then Phillips and all he's got to do is sprint around him. So we saw that. They were working together really well. They got the lead out, figured it out now. And the points jersey, we'll get into that in a little bit,

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and five free AG1 travel packs with your first purchase at drinkag1.com. Again, that's drinkag1.com. Before we go any further, folks, Sir Bradley Wiggins has flown home. Yes. I know if you watch george's latest installment in the trilogy it appeared as if he was landing that was actually not him landing a week ago but sir bradley had to go uh what was it testify at parliament testify he was doing motivational speech is okay he was talking about success what's the word um iivational speech is a big difference. Okay, he was. Talking about successes. JB, what's the word? I don't know.

He was speaking to Parliament. I mean, can we get a reality check? He might come back though, he said, huh? Well, so I did just a funny little thing on that. He came up. He was sort of getting organized. He was staying at the house, getting organized, getting packed. And he came upstairs. And I heard Anna talking to Sir Bradley.

And then she came back and said, what's he looking for? She said, oh, he went to borrow a suitcase. And I said, well, that's OK. That's weird. How did he get here? Because he got a lot of new swag. He got a lot of swag when he was here. He got some new kicks here because he got a lot of new swag oh he got a lot of swag when he was here he got some new kicks he got you know he's got a lot of stuff new stuff and so i said okay well what'd you do he's like i lent him the suitcase i'm like you didn't want the suitcase

she's like no no he says he's coming back in a week and i was like i was wondering where this was going i was like wait okay you lent him he was going. I was like, wait, okay. You let him, he's coming back. Like he didn't say anything. Nothing. I'm like, the tour will be over. But she's like, yeah, no, he just said he's, he's coming back. And I drove him to the airport and I was, and I finally said, I said, so are you coming back?

He was like, yeah, man, I'll be back in a week. So he goes, he goes, he left Monday. Well, no, then he's back. Yeah, he goes a week of the move. Then he goes and talks to Parliament and does other fancy things that knights do. And he's coming back to Aspen. We'll take him. I mean.

With open arms, right? I loved it. How are you adjusting to home life now that Sir Bradley has moved out, George has moved out? Well, so I've only been gone for three days or whatever four days and the first couple days I get a text message about a 605 you're late we're up what are you doing today so I'm kind of rushing having my coffee at my place I'm gonna get there soon I'm gonna get there at 6 30 I get there at 6 30 he's like why are you here so early I'm like the other day you texted me 20 minutes like before this and

said I was late. He's like, well, I like my alone time. Well, I didn't mind enjoying my coffee also by myself. I could have happily stayed there another few minutes. So can we get a little bit of consistency from now moving forward? There are two different categories of stages in every Tour de France, right? There are exciting days and days that are worth watching. And then there are boring days, right? Those are what the today and those boring days, we tend to spend those mornings at the gym, watching the race on, on the TV in the gym. Um, yeah, but yeah, I was surprised you

came over. I mean, there was literally like, who's here. I'm like, what do you mean? Who else is going to be here? I heard the door open. It was 80 miles to go. And you're right. You were right. I was spending some time by myself, which I like. If you're used to being the first person up in your house, you kind of treasure them. And I was up by myself in my house, and I was very happy there. I love that. Like in my house, like I will, when I get up, whether I get up at 5 or 530 or 6, like I will literally tiptoe and be like, please don't wake anybody up. I want to be alone all the while. My whole family's like, there is no way I'm getting up.

Like they're like, no, no, no, no, no. And hang out with that grumpy guy. No, no. You mentioned today being a boring stage, but I can guarantee you most of the riders were happy about today. Even though, like we mentioned earlier, a lot of teams have not won stages yet. But, man, these guys are exhausted. And wind could have played a huge factor in today's stage.

And I think, thankfully for most of them, they're like, okay, we don't have big wind issues. And for the most part, it was a recovery day. Day after the rest of the day wasn't too, too hard. And I think the Peloton was happy about how generally easy it was for the most part. Well, I could tell you who was not happy was Vignon Garmet. We've talked probably more than we ever have in the history of this show. We've talked about the green jersey more than ever. And I do think it's really special to have a rider like V yingerme in the green jersey obviously he's won three stages he won the first stage for his country of eritrea this is a huge story global story i think

uh terrible luck today and i'm not quite sure i was watching the finale and and i get it we talk so much about traffic control and road furniture and roundabouts and little islands and all these things. Just starting to see those first, as they entered the city and were going around these, what were traffic, huge traffic islands, or huge roundabouts. They look like chicanes, and one of them cost him. So, you know, if you just watch it, you think, okay, Binyon crashed, he's not going to win the stage. But when it comes to the competition for the green jersey, huge points. Now, Philipson's closed it. It's now 376 to 344.

I've never paid attention to the green jersey. I'm like, George, just let me know who won that jersey so we can talk. It's 32 points. And there's no sprint stages left so it's going to come down to intermediates well that that's sort of part two and where it does get fun and interesting now you're going to have these uh races within the big race you have to right and uh and and with that comes you know a whole different set of strategies and tactics and the way these two teams, because we're talking about two teams, right? You're talking about Intermarché and De Kooning, right?

It's whether or not, I mean, how they want to play it. And it's not over. Now, there are no more finishes, but they're going to be racing for these intermediate sprints. There's 20 points that are available for the intermediate sprint. Yeah, I mean, but we've seen how hopefully Mingham is not hurt too bad. He said he's got stitches in his elbow.

Yes. Knees all jacked up. So we don't really know until he wakes up tomorrow morning. That's one. Secondly, if he's okay, he only really just has to play defense. He's got a 32-point lead. Say Jasper makes it to that sprint, which is highly unlikely for tomorrow because it's way down the road.

He just needs to follow him and maybe lose a point here, a point there. Who cares? He's not going to. Right. He's not going to. Jasper's not. The chance of Jasper getting 20 points and him getting zero in the next three or four days is very, very slim.

Unless he's badly hurt. So he just needs to go. Unless he's badly hurt. Exactly right. He's got to get up in the morning and see how his his body feels i i touched on this i think in the first week this is just yet another highlight of how tough cyclists are if you watch the podium ceremony you saw the yellow jersey presentation the polka dot presentation the white jersey presentation they could not present him the green jersey and then they then they have all you know supposed

to have all the jerseys stand on the podium. He wasn't there. And we waited, waited, waited. About 20 minutes later, he finally came and did a green jersey presentation and then did his interview. Well, it turns out he was back getting stitches, right? So he's got to recover from that and wake up. He still has to paddle. He's still got to be able to do the job.

Bottom line, I mean, this highlights how tough cyclists are. And, George, you forced me to come over to Todd DeBuff's house the other night and watch a soccer game. Yes. It made, it bullied me into watching a soccer game. Okay, first of all, they can't even get the people. They can't even figure out how to get the people in the stadium. All right?

These people are so misbehaved. Do you see the videos? People jumping over everything. All right? So they didn't even have tickets. They're not throwing chips at the players, though. Okay. So anyway, so now the thing,

so not only have you bullied me into going over there, it starts an hour and a half late. I'm not throwing chips at the players, though. Okay. The cycling fans are. Anyway, so now the thing. So not only have you bullied me into going over there, it starts an hour and a half late. I'm livid. That's Colombian style. He's a little bit late. And then we're watching this game. They don't even score. There's no action.

There was action. No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. There's no action. Kicks on goal. That's action. Hold on. Liz has got a soccer player's son.

She understands. You sit there for two hours, and the score is zero to zero. gold that's actually hold on liz has got a soccer player's son i mean she understands you you sit there for two hours and the score is zero to zero what kind of fucking sport is this i'm not done i'm not done all right and then they and then these guys this is my this is my thing with soccer players and i mean this all right i want to i want you to hear me boy and thank god we we have these are forced to watch these things on TV and in slow motion. Remember the one where the guy pretended like he got hit in the neck and they go back and replay it and it's not anywhere near him. And then there's like a three second delay and he's like, oh, no, I might get away with pretending like he hit me in the neck. Dude, this is not a sport.

Look at Binyan Girmay. It's a sport. I understand it's a sport. This is not. I don't know how this is the biggest sport. Look at Binyan Girmay. It's a sport. I understand it's a sport. This is not. I don't know how this is the biggest sport in the world. Right? No. Give me cycling.

Give me hockey. These guys, hockey players? Come on, man. This soccer is so fake. These guys got skill. They run around for two hours, full gas, and they get hurt. Right. So they watch the marathon.

They do that, too. Biggest board in the world. So here's the thing. Okay. All right. Anyways, we get to the end of this thing. I know we're getting off track. And it's zero to zero.

And then they start talking about, well, the shootout. Each team gets a certain amount of kicks. Which kind of excited you. And I was like, why wouldn't we just start with that? I think that soccer soccer kind of like a prologue even better i mean we can have different they maybe at the start in the beginning like just do three of the little kicks at the beginning so at least there's some action i'm in you got you got me in and then go play go run around for two hours and if it's then we'll do some more kicks

liz is not even paying she's looking away she away. She loves her son, plays soccer. He's a goalie. By the way, that must be the worst job in the world to be a young kid's mother who's a goalie. All the other parents hate you and they hate your kid. They're yelling at you. We thought it was going to be boring. You know what? Did you see the images of the stadium after the event? i went home and watched droid oh was it really just

wrecked yeah it looked like it was pretty and passionate passionate game um but it will be uh back to the bike race back to the tour de france i i i'm i'm rooting for by the way i like casper philips and i'm i'm i'm rooting for ben young germain by the way i like casper philips and i'm i'm happy that he won his third stage by the way also it was his ninth stage win uh of his career in the tour it's pretty awesome he's still young uh but you gotta root for germain and i hope he wakes up feeling okay he's just got to get the legs moving it's one of these things where if he gets through tomorrow he gets through it all uh he seemed pretty positive in the post herace interview.

He kind of always seems positive. That's how he is. Well, you would, wouldn't you? You're from Eritrea. Yeah. Like nobody ever thought you'd be here on the biggest stage, and this is. And winning. How are our friends doing in Eritrea?

How are y'all doing down there? Over there. They're creeping up. They're popping up in the YouTube comments a lot. We're growing. Are we going? Does that mean we're going? I think so. We're creeping up. They're popping up in the YouTube comments a lot. We're growing. Are we going? Does that mean we're going? I think so.

We're still looking at it. Garamendi's got a slit into his DMs. He hasn't written me back yet. So for any of y'all out there, maybe got the hotline, the bat line to Binyon. Yeah. Tell him to holler. We need him on the move. We need him on the move. We need him on the show.

So tomorrow we're heading to a very well known area near Gap, which, you know, is where your famous almost crash ride through the ditch down the side of the mountain happened, which we know is one, it's crazy hot there. And two, it's like never flat. It's super hard up and down. Potentially wind. We talking about tomorrow? Well, I'm just saying we're just starting to head towards that area yeah we can pull up the profile too because the couple things stand out to me this is i guess i had not been paying attention i thought we had two sprint stages this is certainly not a sprint stage and to your point george hot slow pavement no uh according to what we were seeing on tv it's really uh warmed up the other thing that stands out to me right quick i mean look at

the start the start elevation is 85 meters the finished elevation is 1500 meters so just call that whatever 300 feet to 5 000 feet yeah if you look at while the first part of the stage, you don't see big climbs, the net overall gain, if you look at this, the entire stage is uphill. Yeah. Now, there are going to be rolling hills. There's going to be downhills of some of the climbs. But net-net on slow roads on a hot day, that is a hard day. One of the last chances for a breakaway, like just an early breakaway to make it. You saw today there was guys up in the sprint

that may or may not should have been there, but doing everything they can to try for that one chance to win a stage. I mean, they're starting to get in desperation mode, a lot of these teams that haven't won. List them off. Yeah. List them off. I mean, there's big teams.

Because the first week we were talking about these small teams winning, three French wins. And even if they're not a big team or a big budget team they're just teams that you going in you just said you know they're going to want to stage you just want me to list them off because you want me to read that one team but in eos little trek decathlon bahrain red bull group bomber ef education lotto israel premier tech copious movie star and uno x so some of these Red Bull, Groupama, EF Education, Lotto, Israel, Premier Tech, Cofidis, Movistar, and Uno X. So some of these, I mean, Lido Trek, Ineos, Decathlon, Badr and Red Bull, those are some of the biggest budgets in cycling.

I mean, they don't want to leave the Tour de France without a win. We talked about it earlier, like what it feels like getting to Paris. The riders, no matter what, they're still happy to make it to the finish. Crossing Paris is a very special feeling. But the team parties are a lot different if you don't have a stage win. I mean, you go home empty-handed. There's a lot of questions being asked of the riders, of the staff, from the sponsors.

You know, they owe it to their sponsors to get a win. So there's a lot of pressure going on right now. If there's about half those teams, I'd do anything to be a fly on the wall in a team meeting in the morning. Tomorrow's meeting. Mark Madio and the Francis DeJu meeting. His head might explode. I mean, Decathlon, even a little track. They had bad luck losing Pedersen.

They came with an expectation of winning the stage, maybe winning the green jersey. Very good chance of winning the green jersey. He's out of the race. Same for Bora, Red Bull. I mean, they came with the expectation that they would certainly finish on the podium and could potentially win. So things change, and it didn't work out.

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Right. Not just these riders. A lot of people going to the feed zone. Yeah. Are you talking about when I mentioned that they have planned feed zones or we're talking about something else? They do have feeds. I saw feeds on the other. Yeah, I know.

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Ran right across there. I think that's so cool yeah as long as it's not closer than that it was pretty cool yeah he doesn't want anything to do with you nah nah so we have some hard stages left no doubt we actually see a lot of the comments from the from the rest day where vindigo is not giving up he says people can still have bad days he also said which we got to go back on what we said the other day which was 100% Vindigo beats 100% Pogacar most of the time but yeah Vindigo said he he rode his best performance ever his best watch per kilo put a minute on him yeah so he's got to

only really you can't hope that his level gets better he's got to hope that Pogacar has a bad day cracks which is highly unlikely, but it's possible. Third week of the tour, you never know what can happen. I mean, it is amazing because I think most people who follow the race don't hear those things. They don't go down the rabbit hole of reading those interviews. They're just watching the race play out, and they're saying to themselves, well, he was in the hospital six weeks ago. This was a devastating crash.

He had not raced since then. He's, you know, hats off. This has been a great race. When he comes out and says in an interview and backs it up with his own data, then you're like, well, first of all, that's a hell of a recovery. Yeah. First. But most importantly, oh, my God, how good is that a poker jar?

Yeah. Well, he's still looking forward at the podium instead of trying to hold on to second. When I pointed out that Remco interview, they asked, are you looking forward or back? He said back. He's protecting that podium spot. So the point is, Jonas might go for broke, even if it means blowing up entirely. Yeah. Rather than hold on to second well he's still

going to ride calculated i mean i think they're gonna there's a lot of like you like you guys said a lot of racing left um he's confident in his form that it's good but he's just got to rely a bit on uh pogachar having a bad day which we saw last year i mean we even saw this year where he ran out of energy made a mistake it's possible but possible, but a three-minute gap. We saw even today Pogacar was hanging back in the peloton. A lot of people criticized, why is he so far back with all these roundabouts coming, with all these potential crashes happening? Well, he's three minutes ahead. So in his mind, and I'm sure it would be the same with Lance,

I'm okay losing 10, 15 seconds and not crashing, then crashing and getting messed up for the rest of the final week. So he's just, the way he rode today, total defensive mode, and I 100% agree with his strategy today. And in his defense, when that was called out that he was far back, the run-in, now the finale was different. That got a little hairy. But that particular run-in was a very wide road,

so you can kind of give yourself some space. If that road is 50% smaller or even 30% smaller, then it's bunched up and you've got to be in the front. I mean, he could kind of float back there and just watch what's going on in front. But yes, he's got three minutes. Is the race over? Most likely. If you want to find other fun storylines.

Well, let's see how the green jersey plays out. I think that's super interesting. Let's look at these teams that are surely, as we speak, getting screamed at by their directors because, as we speak, their directors are getting screamed at by their sponsors. Going, wait a minute, where are you guys? I think that's a fun thing to track and to follow. And you're going to see the start tomorrow. It's going to be gangbusters.

Oh, yeah. The neutral zone is already going fast. I'm getting up early to watch that. That's for sure. Just don't come over. We're in the gym. You should. I do.

There is this moment. And, George, you figured out when you were living there, there were days he would start to open his mouth and I would just go, let me finish my coffee. Not yet. I got two questions. Tell me when I'm able to ask these two questions. And then, and then, and then, uh, you know, even would say, all right, just let me have two more sips. Let me have upon the second sip. I'll be ready to answer your first question. Yes.

So it was. All right. We've got Ventum Trivia, a couple emails, including a Lance Armstrong flashback to 92. Stick around for that. So we're giving away a brand new NS1 road bike along with our partners, Ventum. And all you can do, what you do is enter every single day by submitting your answer. The question from Sunday was, what city and country was Bradley Wiggins born? The answer was Ghent, Belgium. Today's question, our boy Lars is going deep here.

Matthew Riccatello is a rising star in the pro peloton his dad jimmy was also an endurance athlete what notable event did he win during his triathlon racing career i know the answer to that uh jb before i forget you brought up uh the answer to that trivia question two days ago about Sir Bradley's hometown or where he was born, but place of birth. I thought we did. And we teased it a little. But let's officially announce that we did.

And we hadn't done it. Actually, we did about 75 minutes. He and I talked. Obviously, we talked a lot over the course of the week. And I asked him at some point, would you be willing to come on the forward? Which is really how all this got started. That was my original podcast. And I know I've been a little inconsistent on that thing for a while.

But you've got to pick the right moments. And I think he's such a fascinating guy. I mean, I think we burned the house down. It was so interesting. And for those who are fans of his or have followed his story, there was nothing off limits. We talked about it all. So if you've tracked it, not just the cycling pieces, but the stuff in recent times, he talks about it. It's pretty heavy stuff. It's very heavy, but he was very transparent and vulnerable.

I think you'll enjoy it. So that should be dropping in the next, I don't know, week or two. Yeah, we want to release it between the men's and women's. Perfect. I loved it. I still love doing episodes of The Forward, but there are some that you come out of and you're like, wow, that was so special.

And you get an energy from that. And that was one of them. So I don't want to hype it too much, but I think you'll like it. Well, I'll say what's cool about it is, you know, if you've been following his story, Sir Bradley has not. I mean, the media is brutal with him. So having somewhere you can sit down with a trusted person to tell the truth. He's just been burned over and over and over. So the truth will come out. It's good stuff. Here's some emails that came in. What does ASO do for riders that are on the podium?

On Sunday, you mentioned the buses were at the bottom of the mountain and Lance says that hygiene is so important. Does ASO provide showers for podium riders? Tell me Tadej Pogacar doesn't have to take a horse shower, change into a regular team kit before he goes up and receives the yellow jersey. That's thanks from El Jefe in Ottawa. They do. Short answer, they do nothing.

Right. The riders have their staff with them waiting for them. They clean them off, towel them off, alcohol wipes, all that. And then they get them ready for the podium. They put a fresh kit on. I don't know about shorts. I'm sure the shorts stay the same. Wow.

Unless they've crashed. I'm sure being young, you might put on new shorts for the podium today. So you could be in a nasty chamois and extra power. Yeah. I would think they'd change them now, but who knows? That's what I call growing mushrooms. You don't want to think too much about that, but yeah. I just kept the shorts on.

And now they make an area for them to ride the trainers as well. So they cool down on a spin trainer. That's new, right? It is. Over the last four or five years, they're doing that now. I wonder who started that. I don't know. Did you?

Correct. I don't remember that. 2009. A podium cool down. Was I around? Huh? Was I around for that? Did you do the Tour de France in 2009?

Not with you. Yeah. I've cooled down every day. Wow. People thought I was crazy. They were like, the race is over. Just stop. Just get in the bus. I'm like, I don't know. It feels like now that I've had down every day. Wow. People thought I was crazy. They were like, the race is over. Just stop. Just get in the bus.

I'm like, I don't know. It feels like now that I've had a few years in retirement to think about this, my heart rate was 190 five minutes ago. I feel like I should. I don't know why I didn't think of that before, but yeah. Let's see. Here's one from Mark. They're kind of throwing trivia at us.

What domestic stage race did Lance win just before going to the Barcelona Olympics? Domestic stage race? Oh, God. Why do you? Listen, what's this guy's name? It's great. Okay. What's the person?

What's the name? This is Mark. Mark. All right, Mark, you're just picking on me now. Wait, wait, wait. We'll show an image and maybe this will drive your mind. I know, but hold on a second. He listens to the show, right?

Clearly. He knows that I don't remember anything. Now I'm just getting, even from the comments, I'm getting bullied. Tour of Gila or something? No, no, no, no. No, but hold on. Because the Olympics were in August, right? After the tour?

July, August. We'll show him that image. Oh, my God. There we go. Does this jar your memory? No. Okay. The name of the race is penciled on top.

Long's Joe Classic. Is it a stage race? I would never guess that. No. This is the Long's Joe Classic in Fitchburg, Massachusetts in 92. There was a TT, a circuit race, a road race with a mountain finish, and at the top of the mountain, a criterium. Really?

I do not remember that. But I should because clearly I got the key to the city. Look at that key. See the key I'm holding there? I don't. There's another one with the podium. And in fact, Bradley and I talked about that. Do you recognize either of these guys on the podium with you?

Steven Swart on the right. On the left, I have no idea. Yeah, me neither. No idea. But we touched on that in the forward, just how he remembers everything and I remember nothing. And during that conversation, it actually wasn't a joke. It's real. And so I don't know.

Was it Mark or Mike? Mark. That's a dang good question. And cool to see that old picture. Okay. Send any of your questions into the move at wedo.team. Oh, and one more thing before we go. Tomorrow's show, we have a very special guest, an unfortunate incident about a year ago, but, uh, Michael White is going to be here.

The father of Magnus White, who anybody who follows cycling, especially in the Colorado Boulder area, you knew that this kid. Yeah. And I think it, it, the, the story of Magnus's passing is there's a whole lot of touch points for me personally. Number one, you had, you know, what most would argue was one of America's best up and coming talents. My touch point is watching George and his connection to Enzo and seeing. I'm knowing that I'm going to watch the Tour de France and see Enzo. I think there were so many people, including Michael, that knew at some point they were going to watch the Tour de France and see Magnus. So that's one. Number two is just this relationship between bikes and cars and vice versa and how

it's changing and it's getting more dangerous. I've done this my whole life. I'm scared riding the roads a lot of times. And this was, and this was just such an unfortunate incident where he was struck in Boulder and, and lost his life. And so I was in Boulder in May for my daughter's, my daughter Grace's graduation from University of Colorado. And I sat with Michael and, and you know, we're less at that point, it was, you know, less than a year out and just the rawness and the pain. It hasn't even gone. The trial's in December. Right. Still that fresh. And then the third and final touch point is just being a father of five. You can't that's the worst scenario that any parent can imagine. You're never supposed to outlive your children.

And so he's going to come up tomorrow. They've started an initiative and a non-profit um uh to to uh to ink he can explain more about it but just sort of how we and we talk a lot about road construction and traffic control but there are other things you can do uh to remind drivers right that you're crossing over that line right whether those are rumble strips or other things were because here look we live in 2024 people are driving around all the time, looking at their phones, look at their fucking Tik TOK, looking at all these things. Now looking at the road. Meanwhile, uh, but there's a, one of America's greatest hopes is right in front of you and no longer with us. So, uh, there is more we can do. And so Michael can talk about this.

So that's tomorrow. Yep. Yep. All right. Again, questions for this last week. Send them to themoveatwedo.team. Five stages left on this incredible Tour de France. Hard to believe. Exhausting Tour de France.

Yep. These boys are on fumes. They are. Which is just crazy. They left these. I mean, part of me is like, there's just nothing they can do everybody's exhausted but I don't know see who's got some matches left

that's right some people that kept the few stashed away so alright everybody thanks for tuning in we'll see you tomorrow.