THEMOVE - Tour de France 2025 Stage 2 | THEMOVE

Episode Date: July 6, 2025

Lance, George, and Sir Bradley Wiggins break down the second stage of the 2025 Tour de France, which produced a thrilling showdown between Tadej Pogačar and Mathieu van der Poel for the stage win, and yet again created gaps amongst the top GC contenders. They discuss Van der Poel’s impressive victory, which allowed his Alpecin team to hold onto the Yellow Jersey, if the stage showed us any potential gulf between Pogačar and Vingegaard, and what to expect on tomorrow's stage across the wind-exposed roads of northern France. Catch Spencer & Johan on OŪTCOMES on THEMOVE feed and use our special link to see where you can bet in your area and claim the best sign-up offers https://nxtbets.com/betoutcomes/ Roka: THEMOVE listeners get 20% off. Just go to https://ROKA.com and enter code THEMOVE at checkout. BUBS Naturals: Check out the BUBS Collagen Club Welcome Kit with over $100 of FREE perks when you sign up for a subscription. This includes a 90 day supply of Vitamin C, coffee mug, mix wand, and more. And Use code......THEMOVE for 20% off your next purchase. You can stack those savings. Go to: https://www.bubsnaturals.com/discount/THEMOVE and use the code THEMOVE for 20% off.   Ekoi: The entire EKOÏ website is currently on sale until the end of July, with discounts of up to 60%. It’s hard to find better deals! Special offer With the code THEMOVE15, you get $15 off any purchase of $150 made on the EKOI website until the end of July. https://ekoi.com   Ketone-IQ: Take your shot: Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at https://Ketone.com/themove   Ridge Wallet: Get 10% Off at Ridge.com/THEMOVE. Just head to https://Ridge.com/THEMOVE. After you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them. Support our show and tell them our show sent you.   Ventum: Enter Ventum Trivia of the Day for a chance to win the Grand Prize: $5,000 of store credit towards any Ventum bike. Don’t want to leave it to chance, 10% off sitewide using the code THEMOVE10 or 20% off any NS1 road bike build with code NS120  https://ventumracing.com/themove/

Going back to your point on Tade, isn't it funny how the expectation of us now on him is we're surprised he didn't attack? And actually, he probably rode the perfect race today. Yeah, I agree. Saved energy and almost won the stage. And we are back. Welcome back to the Move Podcast. Lance Armstrong, let's mix it up.

Joined by Georgine Cappy all the way to the left and right here in the middle, Sir Bradley Wiggins. Talking about stage two of the Tour de France. And of course, Each and Every Day brought to you by Keytone IQ. Take your shot. Alain, Take your shot. Uh, Alan, what, what, uh, where, where'd we go on stage two? Stage two from low and plank to Boulogne sur mer. From low and plank to Boulogne sur mer. It just never gets old. It doesn't.

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Special offer with the code THEMOVE. $15. You get $15 off any purchase of 150 bucks or more. Head on over to Ekoi.com. Stage two. Well, the yellow jersey stays home, or at least the home of Alpecin Phoenix. Matthew Vanderpool was, not surprisingly, he was the overwhelming favorite. Whether you're looking at the pundits out there, if you're looking at the odds makers, which we'll get into here in a little bit, he was the overwhelming favorite. Sir Bradley, coming into the run-in, 10k to

go, 5k to go. You were convinced, and I think a good call, you were convinced that Pogge could get it. Nilsson Tidings – Today, finished second, didn't he? Brian Kroemer – Yeah. Nilsson Tidings – So, Vanderpool, dominant for display, good call. You were convinced that Pogge could get it. Taddei finished second, didn't he? So Vandepoel dominant for display. Absolute dominance from the front. Longest stage of the race this year as well. It's not the longest stage of the Tour de France ever. Do you know what the longest stage ever was? 1926, 99 years ago from Bayonne to Luchon. They started at 2 a.m. and the winner's time was 17 hours. The last rider that day, Henry Tessier, finished in 22 hours. So a little bit different today, but nonetheless, the longest

stage of this year's race won by arguably the best classics rider in the world. Nilsson That's right. He's always on, seemingly. And it wasn't that many years ago where we, and we had this almost debate with Johan for comparing Vanderpool and Wout van Aert. And as we went around the horn, I mean, there, myself included thought that the pound for pound Wout van Aert was, was a better writer. He was having, I mean, he was exceptional in those years, but Vanderpool is just, I mean, he's, he is so special.

He's very special. Yeah. I think like we all mentioned, he was definitely the clear favorite today. I thought there was some really standout performances by guys like Vakalon, Julian Alphalipe there at the finish making some really aggressive moves, still finishing fifth place. Jones- Been a minute since we saw him at the front of a bike race. Kline- And two out of, we only have five Americans in this Tour de France and we have two of them in the first group of 26 guys, Nielsen Palace and Matteo Jorgensen, who's also really strong today.

Played a key factor there, making some pace there for Jonas. I think a lot of people were surprised to not see Tajay attack at all on those climbs. What do you guys think? He doesn't need to, does he? Van Poole was attacking, Jonas was attacking. I didn't love Jonas' attack right before downhill. Nobody's going to let him roll off right before downhill. I felt like he should have maybe held back there a bit.

But he still finished third place right up there with the Titans of the sport. So, it was a great, super exciting stage. Hill, I think it just highlights what you guys talked about in the preview show, or really stressed in the preview show, is that this modern Peloton, they raced completely different. Look how many guys. There was already a selection over a Category 3 on Day 2 of the Tour of France. That never would have happened 10, 20, 30, 50 years ago. They're showing up to race for three weeks straight. And then you saw at the end, 20 riders. It's not that hard of a stage now having said that, if for you, uh, sort of Strava nerds out there and, and Matt nerds and elevation nerds, it

was 8,000 feet of climbing. So not easy. It's just constantly up and down. That's a lot. I don't ever want to go do a bike ride with 8,000 people, but, um, they just race totally differently. Everyday counts. If you want to go back in the stage, rewind till 25k to go. Spencer, when would they hit the first climb? The lead out for the first climb was as if they were going into the Quarimont in Flanders, the Arenberg in Roubaix, Rochon-Falcone, however you say it, in Liège-Dastogne-Liège. It was a full gas sprint leadout. Guys like Campernaz and all these guys are doing a full

gas sprint leadout. Typically, it's a category 3 climb, 30-some-odd K to go to the finish. Not a huge deal. This was all or nothing. They needed their guys to be in the front, or otherwise they could lose a shot of winning the Tour de France on stage two on a relatively insignificant climb. So Bradley, we saw a little bit of, and it was interesting watching the Peacock coverage, they had to go back and kind of find the footage of the drama. There was some tension and drama in the intermediate sprint, which is another thing that I'm still so surprised that they take so seriously. I would think you just save all that energy for the final, and there's enough points,

and they're weighted enough towards the end of the race. Who cares about the eight-minute sprint? They race for those. You had the drama with Jonathan Milon, Pignan D'Hermé. The initial recap of it, or a highlight of it, we didn't see anything. You have to go further back. There was some quacking. Mason-Pasquale There was. I remember Mark Cavendish always saying that when they changed the point system for the intermediate sprints a couple of years

ago, I think it was 2012 Tour, he said you have to go for them now because of the points that are available. If you don't go for them, you eliminate yourself from the green jersey competition. So that's why they're going for them. But yeah, we, we, we watched the sprint. Not much seemed to happen in this, but we couldn't understand why Milan was gesticulating. But when we did see the footage further back, it did look as if Milan was trying to push Binyam Gourmay off of his own team. That's right. And then Milan lost the sprint to whoever he lost it to, but he got beat by B Biniam and then didn't seem very happy over it. But he later finished.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like you said, did not seem very happy from what we saw. Biniam was just holding his line behind his teammates. Didn't seem to do anything wrong in our opinion. And so, but back to the cab point, because that's really fascinating. Because it did something changed, where all of a sudden they became a priority for the teams and the sprinters teams and the green jersey contenders. I guess they're not. Maybe these sprints

just take nothing out of them or take so little out of them that they don't mind doing. I would probably wimp out and say, no, I'm going to save my energy. Mason-Pasquale I think that's a good development, by the way. Mason-Hill-Mason The amount of points that are available on those intermediate sprints are similar to the points that are available at the finish line. If you can't guarantee you're going to be there at the finish to contend the sprint for the points, as we saw Tadej, Younes, and Van der Poel, if you're thinking of green jersey in three weeks' time, you need to be racking up points as many as possible wherever possible. Greer And then the games change. I mean, these guys are not saving energy the way we did back

in the day. I mean, they're racing full gas from kilometer zero. They're going for these points, sprints like it's a finish line sprint. They're going 10, 15k out as well. Hill, Jr. Yeah. I mean, it's nuts. I mean, the top GC guys are up there battling out for the victory today. I usually didn't see that. I mean, you guys never did are up there battling out for the victory today. I usually didn't see that. I mean, you guys never did that. If you made it, if y'all were in that group today, you'd been like, I'm good. I'm chilling. I would have been happy to finish on, as Bradley says, zero time. And going back to your point on Tade, isn't it funny how the expectation of us now on

him is we're surprised he didn't attack. And actually, he probably rode the perfect race today. Kline-Murray Yeah, I agree. Saved energy and almost won the stage. Mason Harkness Well, another thing that we did not mention in the preview show, and this does change from year to year, is time bonuses at the finish Right. And frankly, I was, I was unclear, like a lot of things, what the situation was for 2025. So there will be daily time bonuses, 10, six and four. So as if you watched the finish today, so Tade got, he got six seconds, right? He got second in stage, he got six. Obviously Vanderpool gets 10 seconds. That's not going to change

his destiny when three weeks are said and done. But every day, including the mountain stages is what I'm hearing. So you start to do that math. Six here, a four there, a 10 there. Kline Yeah, it's a big deal. Jeff Jones It starts to, those are real seconds. Kline Yeah, absolutely. Real seconds. Real effort out there today. I think I didn't really see much differences today between Jonas and

Tadej. Jonas in fact got a little bumped out of the wheel with 200 meters to go. Had to spend some energy to get back on Jonas's wheel right before Vanipal took off. The fact that they were able to sort of pull away from him, I don't think was a big deal just because of that extra move that Jonas had to make there in the finish. For me, they're still head-to-head. Niupey I agree with that. I agree with that. I think they're looking... Moser Yeah, something about Jonas. I don't... Well, we said it earlier, or a few days ago. He looks good. That's my take away.

Another thing that's just over these couple days, I just have to wonder if the bikes, and we see so much coverage of the bikes from a technical standpoint, I start to say there's so much evolution in cycling, when there really isn't. But within the confinements of the UCI regulations, there's quite a bit of evolution here. You're starting to see these random mechanicals, technicals, drop chains. Yesterday, we saw a derailleur come off the pulley. Are the bikes getting so finicky and special that we're just going to start to see? Most of the time, it doesn't matter until it does. Hill, you're right. I feel like there's a lot more mechanicals this year. Who knows,

whether they're trying to shave as much weight off as possible or making it as aero as possible and making it more subjected to mishaps that we've been seeing in the last two days. You reckon, Bradley? Well, they're fine, finely tuned bikes, aren't they? I would hope. They're akin to, you know, you watch Formula One now and how, you know, how technical the cars are and the smallest problem can cause a mishap. And we're seeing that with the bikes now as well. We saw Adam Yates having an issue in the last 30K. And now, obviously, the done thing is to change bikes because of the speed and timing it takes to change wheels and stuff. But yeah, you mean with the disc brakes?

Yeah, the disc brakes are no longer a quick release. So normally you'd be able to take your wheel out before the car got there to save a bit of time. The mechanic has to come with almost, it's a modified drill that has the Allen key in it. They can do it quickly, but I mean this is stuff you're cutting off an Allen key and putting it in a drill that you buy down at Home Depot. That's what they're using to get, otherwise yeah, like you said, the bike change. Speaking of the Yates brothers, they have not had a great start to the Tour de France. We saw them two years ago getting first and second in the first stage, winning the Giro

this year. These guys are key players for their respective leaders and they're way behind right now. You know, I did, as I don't read a whole lot of news out there in the cycling world, a little more leading up to the tour. I feel like I should maybe try to learn a little bit, get up to speed, get into the present. I saw this headline the other day. And this is with regards to Matthew Vanderpool since he did win the stage today. And I thought of you, George.

This is so good. I guess he did some partnership with a private jet company, right? AKA a Jizzy company, right? And they have a picture of him sitting in the Jizzy and he got all this shit for it. I'm gonna say, Oh, you know, take the train. Yeah. Like, what, excuse me? Yeah. Well, he, I mean, he commented on the fact that like, look, he trains. Wait, so you saw the jizzy ad?

I saw the jizzy ad. And you saw the flack he got for it? I saw the flack he got for it. And you were gonna, you're too close Too close. To the, to the jizzy sphere to bring it up. You, a couple of slappers like Bradley andizzy sphere to bring it up. A couple slappers like Bradley and I have to bring it up? Yeah, that's coming from you.

It's a little too close. Anyways, you got criticized for the jizzy endorsement. What does cycling come to? You should all have jizzies. Yeah, I agree. They spend so much investment in their sleep, their training, their nutrition. I mean, it's just part of their overall health and training. If you can do it. I mean, of course we're going to get help with her too after this, but who cares? We don't care. But God forbid we got a new viewer.

If somebody wants to find me home from Aspen to Greenville Monday the 28th, I'll be available. Oh Lord, it happens. You know, God forbid we have somebody new to the show. I imagine day one, dude, I tuned in, these guys are talking about jizzing and jizzies. I mean, they would have no idea. This is, this is, this goes way back folks. And this private jets are jizzies, motor yachts are yizzies. This is George's world. Bradley and I are on the train, just chilling. Commoners. But anyhow, I was shocked. He didn't seem to care today. No. What an incredible finish. Took the bull by the horns. Raced super aggressively. I'm not sure if people quite understand or appreciate it for that matter. You're sitting at the front of that Peloton with 500-600m to go, and you don't even think

about getting on a wheel. You're in the front going, you know what, I'm going to lead this out from the front, and nobody's going to beat me. And the amount of confidence he displayed in that finish, super impressive. And I believe it's not going to be the last win we see from Matteo Van Poole. Yeah. You know what else is, if you think back to the history or the evolution of this team, Alpecin Phoenix, right? This was a small team. Now, the trajectory of that team, for whatever reason, he was aligned and he was loyal to that. It was a very small team. It was a cyclocross team. Started very small. He stayed loyal. He never left that team. You can imagine the offers he

would have had. This is now, look at this, think about it. And I bring this up because we've had two stages. They're two for two. Imagine the trajectory or the story of that team if Matthew Vanderpool doesn't align there and stay loyal. This is not a team we're talking about. It changed everything. No, I mean, they can go home today and be happy with their tour of France. I mean, the last time we saw, thanks to Spencer, but the last time we saw Yellow Jersey change hands from teammate to teammates was 2017 Karen Thomas gets it early on I think in the prologue and then Chris Froome gets it in stage five

So that was the last time we saw the yellow jersey being traded off to another teammate And then before that did we did Victor Hugo and I? Trade it 2003 that's a good question See, I'm not I don't forget everything. Looking at this profile, we have the time trial coming up in three days, but Vannepol can keep the jersey at least for another two or three days. Yeah, especially with this election. There were significant time gaps.

Now, you're starting to see people that will just never get the jersey. We talk about Phillipson obviously winning yesterday, Vannepol winning today. But we're not talking about his team. obviously winning yesterday, Vannepol winning today. We're not talking about his team. His team was at the front all day today in a super technical, windy stage. But don't you have to be? You won the stage yesterday. He's the favorite today. We also saw the teams that missed out yesterday.

Red Bull, Red Bull. They were all on the front. They got a lick in last night from their directors, I would say. What the hell happened to you guys? We saw it today. They're all really aggressive. Mosca at the front. But Primo still missed that first selection, which was very surprised. We were all very surprised to see that.

He came back, finished in the first group. But I don't know. That was strange to not see him in there. I got a licking on the busy. No. Busy. You see that? Wait, what did I sign up for? These idiots in America. I don't understand all the terminology. I understand.

We don't understand yours either at times. I know that. Ask. I tell you what, when all else fails, just ask me. Just ask. All right. Well, we are about to take a commercial break for our friends over at Peacock, which, by the way, is so cool to be representing. Yeah, it's awesome. I've got my wife at home watching the race. I loved it, I came home yesterday and she's like, hmm. All of our friends are watching. Well, yeah, she's like, your favorite person in the world, huh? I was like, ah, honey, this is Hollywood.

Just say that stuff. Like, baby, you know. Who were you referring to yesterday? As your fifth? Me. Oh, you, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, baby, you know. Anyways, we'll be right back.

Quick break for a pick up. All right, welcome back, everybody. This is an adjustment, isn't it? It's just different. I kind of like it. It allows us to like regroup, give each other shit, figure out the plan. Speaking of regrouping, I have a feeling I'm going to need to regroup because as we lead into these shows, we make some notes, nobody can see it. It's like a whiteboard right there.

Anytime it says any kind of surprise, especially a George surprise, I'm like, oh no. Hiller I think this one was played up a bit. I wanted to mention some of the new standings. Lance's favorite jersey in the Tour de France is now being worn by Tajay, the best climber in the Tour de France. Moser Okay, all right. I can get behind that. Hiller The jersey is rightfully on the back of the best climber in the world. So, interestingly enough, another fact that I want to point out, can you guys pull up this picture, is the man who hates the jersey actually wore the jersey in the Tour de France in 2005.

That's beautiful. Johan did not even know this. Is our team starting to slip a little bit here? Because I feel like this is a really important fact. That is not the Tour de France. Tour de Lavender. That's Tour de Lavender. Tour de Lavender.

Absolutely. So you wore it, but look how proud you are wearing that thing. He loved it. Is that a blue steel look? Which one is that? Magnum? I don't. I don't.

So bad. Check me out. Yeah, there we have it. You've worn the KOM. I mean, it was embarrassing to be reminded and talk about, but to see it is just a whole other... God. So why was O to the Tour de Avenir? I guess that was a semi-pro race. No, I thought it was 1992. It was 92. We raced as Motorola. In 92? Oh, okay.

So was that before the Olympics or after the Olympics? After. After the Olympics. But you won San Sebastian after that. No, second. Before that. Before that. I won San Sebastian.

No, I didn't win San Sebastian. I got last in San Sebastian. As a matter of fact, I did the opposite of winning. I got last in San Sebastian. Second in Zurich. And then a week fact, I did the opposite of winning. I got last in San Sebastian. Nilsson- Second in Zurich. Scott- And then a week later, got second in Zurich. Nilsson- And then you went to Tour de l'Avenir? Scott- No, that was a year off to 93. Nilsson- Oh, 93. Okay.

Scott- That's right. It's somewhere in there. This is a long time ago. Right? Think about this. Right? This is- Nilsson- I know. If our man, the encyclopedia here gets stumped, you know it was a long time ago. But you did just bust out the longest stage of Tour de France, which is when 19 what 1926 1926 And also on the yellow jersey 1994 Tour de France. Yo Hanmise, M.G. GBMG Changed with Flavio Vanzella after the UK stages the same team handed the yellow jersey. Did you just think of that? I remembered it and I looked it up on Wikipedia. Okay on my Google That's interesting.

I want to bring in Spencer Martin real quick because, of course, Spencer and Johan have their daily sports betting show called Outcomes. If you don't bet on sports, fine. It's still interesting. I'm sure they cover a lot of race dynamics, tactics, certainly predictions. In summary, each pick a favorite for the following day. Sounds like yesterday they picked also a wild card, which would have been... We can break it all down. Spencer, are you online there? Spence Yeah, can you guys hear me? Dr. Hill I'm loud and clear. You are like seven feet from us.

You sound like you're sitting right here. Let's just walk the listener through this. And by the way, again, if you're not into it, cool. Go do something else for a second. But if you are, and if you're certainly here in the U.S., if you do live in a state where sports betting is allowed, you can download all the apps. It's cool. Cycling, it's out there. You can pretty much bet on everything, but they have so many options. They have obviously picks for the stage win, they have prop bets, etc.

Anyhow, yesterday, walk us through yesterday, you had, you picked Vanderpool, correct? Yeah, I had Matthew Vanderpool. I mean, I watched, I didn't watch him. I sat behind this and heard George so confidently just stop the show and say, guys, what are we talking about? Matthew Vanderpool is winning the stage. I went right to DraftKings, emptied my account on Matthew Vanderpool at plus 180. And if you don't, I said, if you don't, like that could be nonsense. Let's say a rider is plus 100 to win. That means if you bet $100, you're returned $200, you get $100 of profit. The implied odds there would be like a 50% chance of winning. So if Vanderpoel at plus 180, that's almost tripling your money and the implied odds would

be about 35%. So if you think Vanderpoel had a greater than 35% chance of winning, you should bet on him. I thought he had a far greater chance than that. So I bet on him. My partner, Johan Bernal, bet on Tadej Pogacar at plus 400. So think about that. You bet 100. You're getting 500 back on Tadej Pogacar to win an uphill finish. Pretty not a bad decision. You rarely see Pogacar at that level. As they say in Talladega Nights. No, go ahead.. As they say in Talladega Nights.

Go ahead. What do they say? If you ain't first, you're last. Sorry, Yohan. Well, you could. But if you wanted to, you could bet on him to finish on the podium if you really want to get deep into it. But the one we really want to talk about, Kevin Vauquan. Yes. This is where it gets interesting. So he was priced, and I was surprised with this, he was priced at plus $8,000. So that means if you bet $20 on him, you're getting $1,620 back for a profit of $1,600. And he won stage two of last year's tour.

He was second at Tour of Switzerland, Georgia, I'm sure you remember. We did that, the episode on it. We thought this guy is in shape. He's very good at these types of stages. I was shocked he was at plus $8,000. He was in the front group. We were losing our minds. We thought he might win. And really, we thought that he would attack. And this is what happened, but Joao Mendes is just too good at his job. And the favorites, Jonas and Tadei, would look at each other and let a group go. People were a little too frosty. It didn't happen.

I was actually surprised. Like Mateo, we haven't talked about him much on the show, Mateo Jorgensen, he was plus 12,000 to win the stage and he looks good up there. And back to Backelons, it feels like he burned some matches five to 10 kilometers before that. Just still get what, fourth or fifth on the stage. I mean, it's a perfect finish for him. Here's a question just back to outcomes. And it's you and Johan, do you guys ever, or what's y'all's rules? Like, are you allowed to pick the same person, or do you intentionally try to pick two separate people?

Because that could be confusing. If you both overwhelmingly feel about a pick, then you should pick the same one. We try not to, I mean, just for entertainment purposes. But like, for example, at the start of this race, I didn't feel like it would be like, it would be violating my fiduciary duty to not recommend Betty Nantayde Pogacar to win the race.

So we both pick Pogacar. We try not to do it, but sometimes in extreme cases, we do. I mean, sometimes too. Like, what was that, stage 20 of the 2023 Giro? I'm sure we all remember this. It was Primoz Roglic, Garret Thomas, two favorites for the stage. Let's say they were both plus 200. I was certain that one of the two would win, so I bet a lot of money on both of them to win. And I recommended it on the show and I thought it

was kind of like a free money machine. And then of course, one of them won. Roglic did drop his chain, which I was freaking out about at the time, but it ended up working out. Yeah. And I love the wild card picks. Well, Spencer, what do you think about Roglic not making that first split today? George, this is not, I mean, I love Primoz Roglic, probably personally my favorite writer. He is getting up there in age. He's nearing my age. He's closing in on me. But this is not the first time we've seen him, like, in the first week of the Tour de France,

not being always on the back foot. Remember last year, like, stage four in the Galibier, like, he had to chase back on the descent. It just, I don't know. And we were talking during the stage, he said after the stage yesterday that they were napping and that's why they got caught out. But we all knew the crosswinds were coming. I don't know.

It doesn't bode well for his chances of winning. And then also did you see his teammate, Florian Lippowitz, seem to be the one? Yeah, yeah. Maybe the team leader. I'm thinking perhaps because of these crashes the last few years at Tour de France, he's maybe just a little bit conservative, maybe trying to stay away from the chaos. And maybe that's why he's missing those initial splits. So I'm not ruling him out.

I can get why he would be so nervous. And by the way, I want to point out to the viewers, when you see the overhead shot, the helicopter over the Peloton, and everybody's side to side, it doesn't look that fast, it's not strung out, I can assure you that is some of the most tensful thing you can go through in professional

cycling. At any moment, you can be hitting the deck because you don't know what the guy next to you is doing. They're going faster and faster. It's all spread out. So typically, you'd think maybe not that hard, but it is the scariest thing in cycling. Roads, furniture, etc. All that stuff.

I mean, yeah, it's crazy. And the guys are even texting me right now saying how scary it actually is. The guys from the Peloton. Yeah, my sources. That's sick. One of the quotes is like constantly seeing your life flash between your eyes. I mean, it's that scary. And it's those moments when the viewers are like, oh, it looks pretty chill.

They're all spread out. No, no, I can assure you that is as scary as it gets. You got scared, right? In the races, Bradley? Yeah, yeah. I mean, people ask me, it's actually a great question. I get a few questions a lot, one of which, probably one of the most common questions is, what's the fastest you've ever

gone on a downhill? And I think that answer just shocks people. And then they immediately, when they hear the answer, they say, well, were you scared? And I tell them, I was terrified. And it's not like you're watching robots out there that don't get scared. I mean, were you scared? And I tell them, I was terrified. And I saw like you're watching robots out there that, that don't get scared. I mean, you were scared. Oh, it was a sign. Yeah. Yeah. I think the older I got, the older I got, the scarier it got. Yeah. That's right. I think when you're young and youthful, you don't think of the wrist. And that we were talking last night about you. I said, how many Paris rubes did you do without a helmet? George? I know like like 10. It's crazy to think back then.

You won your first stage in the Tour, no helmet. That's right. That one, yeah. Spencer, thanks for that. We'll look for the show today. I have an update also. That race, you were in the KOM Jersey, was actually the Tour of the European Community in 1992.

Thank you, Johan. And was also won by Johan Bernil in 1990. So another fact that you guys did not know. Which became the Tour de l'Avenir. I think it was a pause on the Tour de l'Avenir. Because now don't they have Tour de l'Avenir? Tour of the Future, as it's translated. We want to talk about tomorrow's stage, but before we do, today's show also brought to you by, and they are, as I said at the top of the show, our presenting sponsor each and every day, Ketone IQ. Take your shot. Are you going to have one?

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famous town of Dunkirk. 178 kilometers. The guys are probably going, hmm. 45 minutes less. Scipley We started in Dunkirk. What year was that, Mr. Wiggins? Wiggins Dunkirk was 2001. Scipley 2001. We had a very bad reception there at the team presentation because we left out our local Dunkerque. We didn't pick, you know what? Let me rephrase this. Johan didn't pick.

They were booing us. Throwing shit at us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were not happy. We were like, wait, we wanted- Don't motherfucker. Hey, we're not allowed to say that. Oh yeah., yeah. They were not happy. We were like, wait, we want to... Don't, motherfucker. Hey, we're not allowed to say that. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Beep, beep. Boy. Yeah, that was us. And you know what? If you remember correctly, there's some... Love you, Johan. It looks like a flat stage, but it's windy, open. Moncosal is like no joke either. And you were debating or curious if the side that they're going up is cobbled.

I feel like we would have read about that. I just asked Johan. A lot of these roads though are from Paris-Roubaix. We go through Orchis, which is of course the sector from Roubaix. We don't do the sector of cobbles in Orchis. But Valenciennes, all this area, so it's all small, twisting, left some rights. You know how I knew the section of Orchi was coming? It was next to the motorway, wasn't it?

Next to the motorway, what else? The big roundabout before you came in. What else? The Mickey D's, McDonald's, baby. Americana coming in, one of the hardest sections of Roubaix, there's the McDonald's. And I go, I'm hitting me a hamburger after this race, no matter what.

I always remember that. True story. a hamburger after this race no matter what. I always remember that. Niu-Sachsorin It looks, I always love looking at the weather. It's just my little own Troy Kemmel moment. The rain appears to be stopping before the stage start. However, the wind does appear to be serious, right? And I have to go look at the map. But out of the north, gusts of up to 34 miles an hour. I do know the stage is pretty directional if you look at the stage map. Frankel. And it is cobbled, Johan said. It's not horrible cobbles, but still. Moser. It's brick. Clinkers. Frankel. That close to the finish. I remember the climb. I mean, there could be some damage.

Spencer, Johan, what do you guys think? I don't know. Well, Johan's not on here, but... Yeah. Well, he's been texting me, so I'd like to know what he thinks because... Spencer thoughts? If I remember correctly, it was kind of tough. Yeah. I think it's a bunch sprint. I don't know if we're going to see it. I think it's going to be tough, but think about these sprinters like Jasper Phillips and Jonathan Milan. These

guys are classics racers. Hey, if Jasper Phillips wins, when was the last time a team won three stages in a row in the first week of the Tour? Certainly the start of the Tour. You know, it's a great question. I'm not sure why you're looking at me, because I have no idea. Bradley, I don't think any non-national team has ever won the first two stages before. I don't ever recall that happening or seeing it in my history books that I read every night. Now, another thing as I stare at the map, because the wind is projected to be straight out of the north, this would neutralize the race halfway through the race.

The route turns due north. It's north all the way. We all know what that means. Hilliard What also happens is, yes, in a way neutralizes the race, but in many ways it makes it much more dangerous. The riders are able to bunch up quicker. They're able to come up from behind easier. It makes them much more prone to crashes, unfortunately. Moser That's right. Before we go, a couple more things. Ventum Daily Trivia. Yesterday, the question was about how many times the Tour de France has taken place within the country. That doesn't seem right. 17 times. Does that seem right? The answer is 17 times. Question for stage two, that's

today's question for the Ventum Daily Trivia. What was the distance of the longest ever tour? Now you earlier said the longest stage in history. Now we're talking about the longest ever tour. And we know it had to be a while ago, right? They've just gone shorter and shorter. And I think today is a good represent representation of that, actually, like longest stage of the tour, 210 kilometers back in the

day. We would have been like, awesome. We're doing 250, 260. It was like, fuck. Whoops, I said it. Oops. Do we do we have to ride that long? Before you know it, I'm going to be the only one on PCAC and NBC. I'm going to have my own show. I know the answer. Don't say the answer. Okay. But look at that.

Yeah, it was a long hint for the listener. It was a long time ago. Okay. And then last thing, before we let y'all go, we got a fun photo here sent in from some fans. They saw Bradley's shirt yesterday. Look at the guys and gals here. This is a family pic sent in by Matt at the Hobbiton in New Zealand. Now I didn't watch any of these movies, but that's apparently a famous bridge and house, whatever that. The Hobbit. The Hobbit. The Hobbit. Anyways, a family pick at the Hobbiton in New Zealand. Uncle Dave, who's

the tall one in the middle, is currently going through cancer treatment and is winning. So go get him, Dave. Dave Strong. They are massive cycling fans that have been listening since Lance started the show and they especially listen now that it's no longer just Lance. Thank the boys. Now go back to the picture. I love the family, right? Everybody. Let me talk about that. What's going on with the little kid? Three from the right. I mean, did he not? Poor kid didn't get the memo. I always thought this was bullshit, like the black sheep of the family. He obviously doesn't have a t-shirt because if you notice the t-shirt under his jumper, it's a different color.

It's a darker blue. It's a darker blue. So for Matt and Uncle Dave, we want to know what's up with the kid third from right. She's got one eye as well. Oh, man. We digress. Tomorrow's going to be a doozy. All right. Well, I think that wraps on that note, Jesus. Okay. This has been fun. Thank you, boys. We look forward to being back same bad time, same bad channel. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Stage Namaska.