THEMOVE - UAE Executes Their Plan Perfectly | Tour de France 2025 Stage 6 | THEMOVE

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

Lance, George, and Sir Bradley Wiggins break down Ben Healy's incredible solo ride to take his first career Tour de France stage win, including how he both outsmarted and outmuscled his world-class breakaway companions. They also delve into Visma's aggressive tactics early in the stage, discussing how the fast and hard stage could impact both the GC and stage win battles on tomorrow's tough stage, and dissect UAE's methodical plan to ensure Tadej Pogačar gave away all three of his leader's jerseys on the stage.  Huckberry: Huckberry is building the future of retail for active, adventurous guys. Where style and adventure converge, millions trust them as their one-stop-men’s shop for discovering and shopping well-crafted products. Check out some of our favorite products at: https://huckberry.com/themove   Roka: THEMOVE listeners get 20% off. Just go to https://ROKA.com and enter code THEMOVE at checkout. BUBS Naturals: Check out the BUBS Collagen Club Welcome Kit with over $100 of FREE perks when you sign up for a subscription. This includes a 90 day supply of Vitamin C, coffee mug, mix wand, and more. And Use code......THEMOVE for 20% off your next purchase. You can stack those savings. Go to: https://www.bubsnaturals.com/discount/THEMOVE and use the code THEMOVE for 20% off. Ketone-IQ: Take your shot: Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at https://Ketone.com/themove Square: Square keeps up so you don’t have to slow down. Get everything you need to run and grow your business—without any long-term commitments. And why wait? Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at https://square.com/go/THEMOVE. Run your business smarter with Square. Get started today.   Ventum: Enter Ventum Trivia of the Day for a chance to win the Grand Prize: $5,000 of store credit towards any Ventum bike. Don’t want to leave it to chance, 10% off sitewide using the code THEMOVE10 or 20% off any NS1 road bike build with code NS120  https://ventumracing.com/themove/

And we definitely need to shout out America today. I mean, two Americans in the breakaway of six guys, the hardest breakaway thus far in the Tour de France. And then Matteo Jorgensen at the end leading it out for Jonas. I mean, three out of the five Americans today played a significant role in the race result. And I just love seeing that. Good morning everybody. Welcome back to the Moo Podcast. Talking about stage six Ben Healy show, ladies and gentlemen. I love this kid, but before we get into it, Alain, where do we start and finish? Stage six from Bayeux to Vir Normandy. From Bayeux to Vire Normandie. From Bayeux to Vire Normandie. Thank you a thousand times. Thank you a thousand times. As is the case each and every day, Ketone IQ is our presenting sponsor.

Look, I feel like I've been on the record with this Ben Healey kid. He's up there, seemingly. Any race he starts, he's in the race. He just tries and tries and tries. He put on a demonstration today that I think it's been a minute since we saw something like that. Sir Bradley, what I mean, he was... Tobyson Ben is renowned for these long attacks.

When he wins, he wins big. He's a gutsy rider. But today was impressive considering how fast the first two hours were. It was on today. We're going to get into all that. That group of leaders, there was some hitters in there. That's right. And that's what George talked about yesterday, those stages that, whereas it is either one of the favorites teams or a team in the jersey, these are the days where

you're just like, oh no, not one of these impossible to control early on. Having to monitor everything, make sure somebody important doesn't sneak into that breakaway. Fun fact here on Ben Healy. He's got three world tour wins. One on the Tour of Basque Country, one on the Giro, one on the Tour de France, which we saw today. All three of those have come from solo breakaways of 42.5 kilometers or more. Hiller I would say arguably today, though, was the strongest

breakaway he's ever been. Kline No, unbelievable. Hiller And rode away from all of them. Kline Unbelievable. Today's show brought to you by Huckberry. Huckberry is building the future of retail for active, adventurous guys. Where style and adventure converge, millions trust them as their one-stop men's shop for discovering and shopping well-crafted products. We alluded to this the other day. You can't see it sitting right here. If you're listening at home, you certainly can't see it. Due to the fact that this show is now live with our friends over at Peacock, we actually set up just across from where we're sitting, a little zone.

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A checkout. Let's keep talking about Ben Healy. I think the thing that stands out for me is Healy. I think the thing that stands out for me is not only the fact that he seems to always want to be a factor in these races, but the people that he had behind him, Quinn Simmons, Matthew Vanderpool, also worth noting two Americans and two Irish riders in the breakaway. We love seeing that. When Quinn Simmons finally, or when he decided to go away from the group to try to bridge across, Ben Healy had 45 seconds. Are you thinking, and he went with another rider, are you, I was sort of thinking, well, I think they can get across. They did nothing but lose time. That just shows you how dominant Ben Healy was and motivated. Not only that, but I think it shows you how damn hard it was to make that breakaway. Yeah. I mean, you had to talk to us.

You had a point sprint within the first 20K where Milan got third in. And then you have these guys. These guys are the best of the best breakaway specialists or World Cup winners in their own right. So to see a breakaway like that, the first thing I said to you in this morning, these guys are hauling ass. They were only between 20 and 30 seconds for a long time, what seemed like forever. And at some point, somebody's going to give up. UAE was trying to keep them close. There

were guys, I'm sure, getting yelled at by their team directors that didn't make that breakaway. But look, look at the guys that were in there. I mean, these guys, it's not like, oh, we let them go, we messed up. No, these guys rolled off and select. That was a breakaway, like a selective breakaway. And that's about as hard as it gets. Those starts of the Tour de France, I still have PTSD about those starts being in the yellow jersey or on the other side, trying to make that breakaway, which I did many times. He still, it doesn't get harder than that. And that's really hard to describe that to the viewers who would never race the Tour de France, how difficult that really is. Mason Jones Not only that, Ben Healy attacked at the place

you least expect him to attack. In that breakaway. Which was quite something to see. That was a tough day, tough, tough stage. And you could see it in the riders' faces. Greer And you could see it on their shorts. We all remarked. We've talked quite a bit this first week about the heat leading up to the tour, then unexpectedly

cool temperatures. Today really wasn't that hot as I checked the weather real time. It was in the low 80s Fahrenheit, but you saw the majority of the riders showing just are presenting with a lot of salt. That's always a telltale sign that hydration or dehydration has become an issue and that it's hot. Hill, the first couple of days were not hot and then you had the time trial yesterday. A lot of guys didn't even probably didn't go hard at all. And then you have a relatively hot stage and hard from the gun. And we definitely

need to shout out America today. I mean, two Americans in the breakaway of six guys, the hardest breakaway thus far in the Tour de France. And then, Matteo Jorgensen at the end, leading it out for Jonas. Three out of the five Americans today played a significant role in the race result. I just love seeing that. Hill, Jr. Jones, Ph.D. Worth noting, when ASO sends out the race book with the itinerary, they really give you three brackets for average time for the stage and that leads to a projected finish time. Today's stage finished minutes ahead of the fastest projected finish time.

To your point earlier, George, this thing was just firing from kilometer zero. I just have a question about that PTSD of yours though. Was it more from the effort that it took to try to control the Peloton or from Johan screaming in your ear? Hamish Brokamp Both. Because the times that Johan would come on the radio and scream at you, that means you're already like, for instance, 30 seconds behind Vinny Kaur or somebody we did not want to let go. And somehow it was so hard that he actually got up the road. And then, you know, the next 30 to 60 minutes of your life are going to

be some of the worst pain you've ever felt because you can't like let a guy like that go. So, and then the same thing on the, in the breakaways. When I had some freedom to get in the breakways, you know, it's very, very stressful, very difficult, but it's also very calculated. I mean, you got to go when it's very stressful, very difficult, but it's also very calculated. I mean, you got to go when the rope has strung out as much as possible and you think that you can't go any harder, that's when the breakaway goes. And that's when guys like the sixth that went away today, that's the only time they can go. Hill, the record will show the average speed was 45.7 kilometers an hour. So for you folks that are sitting at home thinking about going out

on a 125-mile group ride, if you think in miles an hour, that's about 28 miles an hour with all that climbing. With 11,000 feet of room. Awful. We've had a lot of, and this just came in this morning just because we haven't done it and pulled it out this year, but today's a perfect day to do it. We had a lot of listeners asking us about where is the boomstick and encouraging us today that if we find it, that Ben Healy deserves the boomstick. So the boomstick comes back out, right? So it's Ben boomstick Healy. I think this is well-deserved today. This kid hustles. Yeah. And I loved seeing Quinn Simmons there being aggressive at the end, not being scared of

anybody in that breakaway. Quinn Simmons isn't afraid of anything. Went on the climb. We arguably, like Bradley mentioned, Ben Healy went where nobody expected on a sort of downhill flat section. Yeah, everybody's going to expect somebody to go on a climb nearing the finish line. But what Ben Healy did, he just kind of was just trying to get the advantage without them expecting it.

I think they expected when Simmons went, but they couldn't react. So he obviously has a lot of really strong legs left in the race. And I wouldn't be surprised if he comes away with a stage win in this Tour de France. Yeah, I'm going with that. By the way, you don't rock up to the start line with that look, like the hair, the facial stuff. That just, you just don't care about anything. No.

You're not afraid of anything. And he said in his interview that he wanted to represent America in that jersey and he's looking good so far. I mean, second place today on probably the hardest stage of the Tour de France, the hardest breakaway to make, so very cool to see. We have a cool clip of Ben Healy at the finish. This was his official post-race interview, talks about a couple of things, talking about the break for him and him going away and then what it means to win a stage in the Tour and more importantly to actually ride the Tour.

Let's run that. I think I spent a bit too much trying to get into the break, but I think that's just the way I do it. Once I was in there, we really had to work for that gap and I was just on the pedals all day. I knew I needed to get away from the group and pick my moment. I think I timed it well and hopefully caught them by surprise a little bit. I knew what I had to do, just head down and do my best ride to the finish. It was the perfect kind of profile. It was the best done yesterday. Yeah, exactly.

And it suited me directly onto the ground. So yeah, I mean, this was a stage I set up with a bug from the start. And yeah, to do it on the first one, it's really, really amazing. This is what you've always been dreaming of to win a stage on the Tour de France. This is what you were thinking about

when you were a kid with your dad and you started riding on a velodrome? Yeah, 100% you know. I just grew up watching a tour and one day wishing I could maybe even be there, you know. So to even be here is an achievement and that's one of the stages of CF. Big deal. Yeah, amazing. A lot of people don't realize what goes on in the rider's head. There's a lot of doubt, a lot of questioning who else is in a breakaway, especially today's breakaway.

But for him to say, just kind of try to take him by surprise and not only that, but like he mentioned how hard it was to get in the breakaway. We keep talking about that, but you saw how hard it was with nobody reacted and he just kept putting time and time on them. So he just had an incredible day. They tried to, Yates chased for a little bit. And it's just one of these things where he took advantage of it and got, I mean, clearly he was feeling good.

I mean, there was a moment and as we were watching the Peacock coverage, I couldn't help but have a small chuckle. Christian Vandeveld, who's on the Peacock motorcycle, went up to the director of Education First. And I quote, Christian says, the director said, we'll see in the showers. I think I know what that means. I think it is see in the douches. Of course it is. But, but nonetheless, they were that confident. Like when he went, it just, I mean, I had this moment in 1995, the same year that Fabio Castretelli died when I got away.

It was, he was even on a small slight downhill and our director at the time in the team car was Hanny Kuyper and he kept coming up and this up and this is now we're 30 years ago, right? So not near as much information, not near as much data. And Hennie kept coming up and giving me the time check, time checks. And I finally said to him, I said, Hennie, you don't need to come up here anymore. I'm not getting caught. It's the same thing. Like he was, he clearly felt that good, relayed that to the team car.

And the director said, you know, he's gone. Yeah. And there was still a lot of sort of tactical stuff going on behind, even though they were five, six minutes behind. You saw Bismuth putting her heart out there in there at the end. And, you know, there's speculation that they were doing that to keep Poguchar in the jersey. What do you think about that? Mason wonder what they were doing, but it makes sense now. They must have known the gap was, it was very tight with Van der Poel as to whether Yellow would fall off his shoulders, off of Pog's shoulders today. And were they pushing on at the finish to keep Pog in Yellow, which would give them, you know, make them have to take up the work again tomorrow on another tough day.

So, if they're doing that and Pog didn't want to be Yellow, why is Poggy sprinting for the finish there? Is that like an ego? It's a bit of an ego, yeah. I mean, didn't want to be yellow. Why is Poggi sprinting for the finish there? Is that like an ego? It could be ego. Yeah. I mean, he said that in the interview that they were trying to accelerate or make the race hard for him or for his team. But this was all developing in real time, right? If you just reverse the tape to 10 kilometers before the finish, I mean, Venderpool was minutes into yellow. This was not a...

Nobody would have even thought about this. Initially, we thought, well, he's so confident that at least he'll ride into yellow, try to win on Muir de Bretagne tomorrow in yellow, that he set up. I think if you saw him at the finish line laying on the ground dousing himself in water, he too was caked in salt. I don't think he sat up. I think he hit the wall. And as the information was getting back to the main group, then Wiesma realizes, oh, we might have a play here. This all feeds into this idea that Tadej Pogacar does not want to go to the podium. Right? And by the way, that's not a criticism. I support that. Going to the podium at this point in the race, especially for something

that is not the yellow jersey, who cares? You don't want to go for a polka dot jersey or a green jersey. Mason- There is ego on both sides there as well because you're playing with such small margins and I think Visma, part of them was being you know, being on the offensive before, because we can question with Tadej was going to light it up on that last climb. And the last thing they want to do after the disappointment with the time trial yesterday is lose another couple of seconds on that running to Tadej and give him that kind of extra motivation. Yep. And let's not forget watching Vannepoel come in like the way he did today is also

indicates how hard it was to make that breakaway. It essentially a team time trial for Vanderpool and for those five guys from the beginning of the race where the other stage of Vanderpool won. He was protected. He only had to go at the end of the race. Today he went all day long, full gas and it really affected him. Well, I mean, Matt, you know, you go back to being a kid with when you're in the playground and you're picking people for your team. If you were in the playground, you're picking somebody for your team to be in a breakaway. Matthew Vanderpool is one of the guys you pick. To see him suffer like that.

But this was tactics on both sides. They were trying to let the jersey go. Feesma realizes, oh wait, let's make him go stand around for an hour after the race. Right. That's to be expected. Mm hmm. Then we got a cup of break. We're going to take a little peacock break. All right, guys, we'll be back in two and 32. And we're back. This morning, we woke up to a, or I shouldn't say we, Sir Bradley woke up to a really interesting analysis via voice memo from your son, Ben Wiggins.

And there's so much reflection on the time trial and really questions in and around Jonas Wingergaard's performance. Not what anybody expected, certainly himself. We had talked a lot in previous days about his choice of crank arm length. We regarded in the time trial massive chainring. And so Ben had an interesting take on just the physics of it, I guess. Mason- Yeah. I mean, they use, obviously they play around with, Ben's on the British track squad program and they play around with crank links on the British track squad program and they play around with crank links quite a bit for team pursuit and individual pursuing and obviously

the advantage you can gain from that. And essentially, he thinks that Tade, when you come down for every 10 millimeters of crank length, you come down in size, you need to equate, you have to calculate and take that into account for the gearing. So you come down four inches in gear size, inches being the rollout of one crank rollout of the bike if you rolled it out on a fixed wheel. So you would equate that into your gear selection and come down four inches in gear size. So essentially his gearing was way too big for the cranks he had on and you lose all your leverage. So we believe he had a 62 chain chainring yesterday, 155 millimeter cranks.

And he just couldn't produce the power because his leverage had gone because the gearing was over geared for his crank link size. When you say that too, and you go back to the footage, you see that he's kind of wrestling that bike to get the gear over. So we believe he had a 60 tooth chainring on yesterday. Just so I'm clear, 60 or 62? 60. 60 tooth. Oh, 60 tooth 60 tooth. Which is massive.

You can see it. Yeah. So when you're 60-11 on the gear in on the bottom of your cassette, the leverage you can produce, the torque you can produce is limited because the gear is too big for the size of the crank link. So that's what he's told me. And that's what the data suggests with all the track programs. You would think they had spent some time, and surely they have, right? Well, I think it's course dependent as well. So whether he ran that selection and gearing at the Dofenay. 68 tooth. 68 tooth. That's even worse.

Yeah, this is coming in on our group chat here. So there you go. Johan saying a, I can't even believe I would say this, a 68 tooth chain ring. I mean, it did look, I mean, you can see a 56, a 58, it looked ginormous. There's no crank arm left after that. No, his cranks were inside of the chainring. Yeah. So the leverage you gain off of 155 cranks for a chainring that size is you're limited. But a team like that with all the planet, you would think they would have factored that in. Yeah, but there's factoring in, and then there's out in the field as well. We all know. It's a different ballgame, isn't it? These things are great, in theory, but when you're out there in the Tour de France, you

never totally know. You should- Nilsson Ligandre That seems hard to believe. A 68 on the front. I believe- Kline It's put him on the back foot. But he still looks great on the climbs and Tour de France is way from, way far from being over.

And a lot of the interviews his teammates are saying, they're saying, look, the last couple of years, the Tour has been won by minutes, five, six, seven minutes. So in their mind, they're not out of the game by any means. Yeah. I mean, the races, the climbing, the real difficulties of the Tour are weighted towards the second half. We've discussed that. So, yeah, maybe. And look, Tadej Pokic, every now and again is human. It's not very often, but who knows? But this kind of discussion, it just, they're sort of head scratchers. Right.

Kind of reminds me of that one time you, you tried the, uh, no, this is true story. It's actually not that funny, but when you tried the fan and mist system, the cooling system when it was like a hundred degrees out and inside our little bubble was like 75 because of that. And you went out and completely just, your body just fell apart. I know. Yeah. You know, sometimes it's one thing to, you can test these things a lot in training. When you get in the element and you get in the race and you get where it really matters, it doesn't work out.

Let's talk about tomorrow's stage. Another exciting one, right? The Muerte Britannia two times. Remind me, fellas. Well, Wild Van Aert won the last time we came through or was it Vanderpool? Vanderpool. Vanderpool. So now he's- Solo attack.

He went away the first time up seeing the Douches attack. I wonder what he's going to have to recover from today. He looked totally spent at the finish today. However, he is back in yellow. We should have noted that. He's got one second lead over Tadej Pogacar and this is I don't know I forgot to I forgot to pull up the Finished profile, but no, I mean and don't forget everybody had a hard day today. Even the guys the groupetto

30k into the race. They were already six seven minutes behind So that means they have to go hard the whole day. Otherwise they kicked out of the race So nobody had an easy day today. Here's the final, the last 17 kilometers, two times on the Mirta Brutta, pieces of 15%. The final time up, it continues on, it never goes downhill. So another exciting one. Yeah. I mean, that's a great, great climb.

I let out Cadell Evans on that climb in 2011. He won the stage, but it's one of those climbs where you could just see the whole thing. You can see the run into it and you see it start kicking up and then you can see it when it turns 12, 13, 14%. So there's no hiding in that climb. It's a very tough climb. I think it's going to be a super exciting stage. You got to think these GC guys are going to have to attack. They're going to have to race up this thing. And the running is sketchy. Yeah, the running is sketchy. Yeah. The running the last 15 K before that. Yeah. It's just, or another day for another breakaway.

I don't think so tomorrow. I don't know. It's going to be on like Donkey Kong. Oh, I don't know. I think I don't see Albucian control on it unless the breakaway. I love the breakaway. I said today was going to be a breakaway and it was. But the start, is that the start tomorrow? Yeah. Yeah, the start doesn't look that hard. A team, UAE, or if UAE wants to go for the stage win or Albacene really wants to go for the stage win, they can control that.

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Square hardware at square.com slash go slash the move. That's square.com slash go slash the move. I appreciate those. You know, you got it in the rhythm there, Bradley. Run your business smarter with Square. Get started today. What did we leave out? I'm still thrilled for Ben Healy. I actually just got a good question in. I thought it was kind of interesting. So a buddy of mine, Ken, just asked, Hey George, do team directors from different teams ever talk and strategize about stages? Like today, is it possible that Alpecin and UAE plan to let MVP take back the yellow jersey or teams work together against someone like Pogge when the opportunity arises?

Actually a good question and Brad, I'm going to let you take it because I think we all know. Well, I think teams, yeah, they definitely coerce with each other. One scenario I particularly remember was in the 2009 tour where Johan and Bjorn Reiss were coercing with each other in order to get rid of me. Oh, I do tell. Yeah, yeah. No, it's all, there's some footage of it on one of your films actually. We got to get rid of Wiggins. They're coercing him.

Was that in the crosswind section? No, no, that was in the mountains when I was still a bit of an unknown. Did you make that selection, the crosswind section? No, I missed it. You missed it. Yeah. Lagging back with Garmin. Yeah, you were. I was with Christian. That was no Moscombe. You didn't know it was coming. No Moscombe. There. He was in the showers. LA was following me right upside the road there when I saw that right turn. Come on, I'm saying, let's go, baby. This was a stage two grand bon non. And the Schlex started attacking on that full climb. I don't remember.

When the Schlex started attacking on that full climb. I don't remember. I do remember the crosswinds with George. Yeah. It's funny. I don't remember a lot, but I do remember that. And that was before we had Velo, the viewer in the car. Like there was a bit more of an art to it. Like you kind of had to have certain staff up the road trying to sniff out wind directions. And so it was, you just

had to pay a lot more attention. Nowadays, they know exactly which way you're turning, which way the wind's coming, what's going to happen. So it's a lot different. But to answer his question, there is, there just, there has to be, I wouldn't call it, let's stop short of calling it collusion, but let's stop, let's call it collaboration and communication. There just has to be. It's a three week race. You have what? 23 teams. There are eight rider teams. And at that point, it does become political, right? There are, and you might align with somebody on stage six and be fighting against them on stage nine. Like it's day to day, but this is a political event. Make no mistake about it.

And that's just the nature of the sport. That's the history of the sport. There's nothing they can do about it. And it really is the way that that thing has to sort of move down the road. Yeah, like today, for instance, when that breakaway was only 20 seconds ahead and they're trying, they're working their asses off to try,

they didn't want that breakaway to go. And there were several teams not represented. So in that moment, there is no collusion between teams. Perhaps teams that don't have anybody in there like, hey, you put a guy, we put a guy, let's try to chase this down. But as soon as that thing gets the gap and they realize they're not coming back, then there's definitely collusion like, all right, we can keep them close so we can give them more time. There's a lot of, a lot of conversations going on in the team director's cars back there. There are times when it gets desperate as well and the checkbook comes out. I think that was the old days.

I don't know if that still happens. I don't either, but I was trying to avoid talking about that. 1995, I remember particularly when the stage to Mond, Jalabel's in the front with Neil Stephens and on save and Bonesto were on the back foot. Terrible day. Bonesto on the back foot and they were throwing money left, right and center, what I understand. It's all their teams to help chase. Yeah, I do remember that because there was a bunch of random teams like Chase and they're like, why are they It was a single file on this chip seal. It was, it was, that was a brutal stage.

Yeah. But, you know, that was then. This is now, and now we don't know, right? I do, but who knows? But there's definitely this communication collaboration when you need it, right? There are shared and mutual interests. This is not, this is unlike any other sporting event in the world. It is not A versus B or one versus two. This is one versus 22. So

you just can't control it. Nathanael Maira One thing writers do do in the third week is start swapping food out of musettes. When you get sick of the same food. I'll trade you two of my... I'd always swap my bars for your rice cakes, your homemade rice cakes. What do you have in there? What do you have in that feedback? Keep sending your questions in. Send those to info at wedo.team.

We have a good question here from Jim regarding Sepp Kuss. We were actually talking about him as we were watching the race today. And Jim is spot on. He says Sepp Kuss has been quiet thus far. Do you believe Team Biesma is possibly saving that weapon for a bigger mountain stage to pull or help Jonas and try to break Tade like they did in 2023? I would I would hope so. I mean, he had a couple of years ago,

he was probably MVP of the entire season in terms of what he did in the Giro, the tour and the winning the welter. Ironman. So he's got it in him, that's for damn sure. And yeah, I would like to think that they're kind of saving him for everything after stage 10. So Bradley? Yeah, I would like to think that they're kind of saving him for everything after stage 10. So Bradley?

Yeah, I agree. I agree with George entirely. That was convincing. I'm curious. Well, we're going to find out. But for any rider to do all three Grand Tours in one year is unbelievable. It's Herculean. And obviously he did that, but not only did he do that, he won the third of the three.

Unbelievable season. One of the best seasons in American cycling history, bar none fact, end of discussion. I don't think that comes without consequences down the line. And look, this is just, and one would hope not, but time will tell. That is an incredibly hard thing to just try to complete. Nonetheless, again, when the third one of the three got to be extremely hard on the body and potentially hard on the body long-term. Do you remember Adam Hansen? What was his record for? Oh God. That's a different...

Oh yeah. Did you 19 grand tour straight? Something like that. He was 12 welch in one year. You remember training camps with him? We'd go out for like seven hour rides, seven and a half hour rides and he'd get back to the hotel, do another two hours. That's insane. You know, we'd jump on a trainer. We were like, what is wrong with this guy? He's a beast. Let's do our Ventum trivia of the day. Yesterday's question. How many total

grand tour time trial stages did Sir Bradley Wiggins win over the course of his career? Survey says answers three. He won two in the tour and one in Jiro. He also won the 2012 Olympics time trial, 2014 world time trial championships and he also set the hour record. Or as he said it the other day, it was an attempt. Now I don't know about you, but when I hear that, I'm like, oh no, we're wrong. Didn't get it. Didn't you say 2014 was like your best year ever?

Yeah. I mean, I didn't go to the tour that year. I won California. It was 19th in Perrybury. Won the world championship. But yeah, that was the year. That was a strange year because obviously me in the Froome situation was erupting at that point.

And Chris was the clear leader that year and should have been. So did you ever think about switching teams that year or no? Yeah. I was was erupting at that point. And Chris was the clear leader that year and should have been. You know? So did you ever think about switching teams that year or no? Yeah, I was talking with you guys at BMC. Okay. Well, you weren't there then by the way. Yeah, I wasn't there. I was talking with White Ear, Green Edge and-

For like a mid-year change? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that would have been interesting. Wow. Breaking news. Hey, it's all in the past. Today's Ventum trivia question for the day.

On Stage 6, a hilly stage, how many categorized climbs were featured on Stage 6? It's not the toughest question. Ventum is being very generous here, giving away money on this one. How many categorized climbs are featured in Stage 6 or were featured in stage six? That's a question. We'll have your answer tomorrow. This might have the highest hit rate on success. Okay. Kimas. Kimas. Kline We're going to definitely see some separation. Muckerman Obvious questions. Breakaway or no breakaway?

Number one. Number two. Ken Vanderpool repeat what he did a few years ago? Well, like we saw today, even if there is a breakaway, Jonas and Pogatroy have to race up this last climb. So it'll be a good indication of where they're standing. But I think a breakaway will get to the finish. Yeah, it's the last chance for a breakaway before a couple of maybe sprinter stages. Yep. I want to just flag something, too. Yeah, it's the last chance for a breakaway before a couple of maybe sprinter stages.

So, I want to just flag something too. And I've talked about this, I've never understood it. These guys are all, they all bro down. They give each other hugs, high fives, say nice things about each other. I don't get it. And I'm talking about Tade and Jonas. I mean, okay, maybe that's the nice thing. But I don't get that.

Just watch this though. Things might be getting a little tenser. Tade says at the finish, Visma is lagging behind. But what they did today made no sense. Maybe they fell off track a little yesterday. Even a sprint like that at the end is a bit pointless because it wasn't a sprint for the top 10. Just feels, you know, for these, for the bromance. Why are you sprinting then if it's pointless?

He still won this race. He's sprinting because he was mad. Yeah. But you got to love it. I mean, this kid's proud. He's the best in the world. He's like, yo, what are you doing? Yeah. And the beef is real. And by the way, too,

as we watched, as everybody watched, they're sprinting out of the saddle. Who was sitting in the saddle? Just fingers in the nose, chilling. Come around. Yeah, show them who's boss. It's getting a little chilly. The bromance is getting chilly. Earlier in the show, I did want to mention Will Barter also making that breakaway. I said two Americans, but I did not shout out his name. Respect. I mean, hardest breakaway thus far on the Tour de France to make. And he was there working just

as hard as everybody else. Finished sixth place on the stage. Really impressive result. Boise. Boise. And two Irishmen. And two Irishmen. Yeah. So let me. Yeah. So big shots there, Irish.

Yeah. Clint Simmons looks a little Irish. He does. I guess he must be written something. He's channeling his Tyler Farrar. Tyler Farrar. But this is Tyler, this is next level Tyler Farrar. This is Tyler when he was retired.

Yeah. Anyhow, we're rooting for both those guys. We're rooting for all the Americans in the tour. And there may, and we said it at the start, right? We said, what, five or six Americans in the race? Every single one of them can have an effect on this race. We said that, right? And that's coming true. So cool to see. All right, everybody. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you tomorrow. Thank you.